@starman292 yes, I get what they were trying to do with the motion controls but I found out that I have much more fun without the motion controls because it is Zelda...my body just remembers how it plays and I get really immersed in it.
Not really that surprised about the dual version but a little bummed about the release date. Now I have to wait and understand what version I want...I am so regretting getting Twilight Princess on Wii, I would have loved the GameCube version a lot more.
The HD version they released on PS3 was so amazing...it mad it really shine as one of the best games ever made. Hope it finds it ways to a Nintendo eshop in the future
I am trying to approach this with an open mind but this looks so aged...like a DS game. And the art direction is so bland! I'll wait for the reviews / demo before buying it even if i love Metroid insanely.
Miitomo is alright but it really need something more to keep people hooked on the long run...My Nintendo is perfectly fine if they start including points vouchers in physical releases.
Look at the picture and now imagine playing something like Street Fighter or the Witcher with that. I really don't think they are going to scare third party developers like that so I stay #teamfake.
Very short lifespan if it's true but I've no regrets and there are still a couple of games like #FE and Zelda that I really want to play. Also, this is the console that brought me Bayonetta 2, so everything is forgiven!
I am more worried about how hasty this NX launch seems to be getting.
I generally prefer to own a physical copy because I feel like doing so I have true ownership of the title and I cant look at it on the shelf, lend it to my mates and siblings etc. What if in a distant future Nintendo pulls the plug of the store and I am not able to re-download some of the content I bought? (I know it's a very unlikely scenario, but still...)
With the 3DS though I don't mind having some digital versions so I can have them on the SD without swapping the cartridge...an inviting pricing does the trick. If the price is the same, I will always go physical and usually save some money buying from online sellers.
I hope Nintendo will have more deal and offers in the vein of Steam and PSN so I can collect some of those coins.
@Dr_Corndog Oh, my 3D Super Metroid - I would buy that in a heartbeat! It's one of the best game ever made imho but, just like you, I just can't process a third digital purchase
This is one of the games I did not buy on the VC so I could see myself buying without feeling too bad (or feeling abused). But what would you guys recommend? WiiU Version of Super Mario World? WiiU version of Super Mario Advance 2? Or this?
@Discostew Thank you for your insight! It was very informative.
@Dr_Corndog Yes I agree and I understand your position and also the position of those seeing SNES titles on standard 3DS as possible (though not just through the use of an emulator). It surely would have taken more time/resources but it feels like Nintendo fans have been wanting these forever.
All the inputs you guys provided, ranging from extremely polite to snappily entitled have surely softened my skeptic position about Nintendo's commitment in the operation!
I still won't buy the games but that's just because of pricing and lack of cross-buy or at least an encouraging discount for multiple dips but this was the topic of another post here on NintendoLife.
I could have justified the extra bucks somehow if they took sega's approach and went the extra miles outside pure emulation to make this work but as it is, I sadly have to pass because I feel we really deserve a better VC pricing model.
@Dr_Corndog I understand lol. But I also understand what you mean and why some of you guys won't consider this as emulation. Though it is, partly...with a lot of extra work.
"we swapped out code as needed from the emulator, which was written in C. This took quite a bit of time, and turned into quite a magnificent bit of work."
From other interviews it's also clear they treated every single game a a stand alone entity: in Sonic 2 they used the polygons that were rendered for the bonus stage before the rendering, cause it was much easier that way to get the 3d effect and get the ads to run it, while Fantasy Zone posed little trouble and just a tweak of the emulator. So I am totally on board to say this took time and effort! But emulation is definitely involved in the process.
MMM I could get me some NSMBU! The only thing I don't like about this kind of re-releases is that they change the packaging and really make you feel like you're cheap XD
The ugliness of the European PSP best hits or what were they called is burned in my eyes forever. They came in orange and black polka dots...
I like this approach. Imho Zelda is one of the series that made the best transition from 2D to 3D but then it kinda got stale in terms of gameplay. A very, very nice kind of stale. So I am ready for some changes. And I am sure Nintendo will deliver an open world with an unprecedented level of polish for the industry.
@Gex91 Yes it would have surely taken more time, basically it seems they built an emulator and then coded some part of the games. Totally can see Nintendo not wanting/having time to do it and it's what a lot of people are saying basically. They didn't want to spend time/money on it but could have done it on the standard model. I am not saying that they should have done it...
@Einherjar yes dear, and you are implying that other users are writing BS and you just know the truth, When in fact you are spreading misinformation by saying SEGA didn't emulate the games or in your holy words of wisdom ""squaaak...not emulated...squaaak"".
@Einherjar well, first you could stop snappily answering things like "not emulation" to everyone pointing out the sega classics, since as we saw, it is emulation. Just more time and resource consuming than vanilla one.
Secondly please accept it's just opinions and not try to enlighten us all with your holy gospel! It's really an aggravating attitude. Maybe you are right, maybe someone else is, who knows?
@Einherjar And you have all the financial evidence and are not giving me an answer that is just more entitled than mine? Let's say agree to disagree because I can see there's no real communication here.
@Einherjar I see what you mean but "we don't have the time and resources to do it", is very different from "we can't do it". Not to mention M2 had difficulties because they wanted the games to run in 3D and the Genesis/Megadrive is faster than the SNES in the first place.
We cut some of the fat, accelerated things by writing some assembly code and whatnot. However for the 3DS remakes, we wanted to effectively utilize the 3DS’s CPU resources as much as possible, so we wrote assembly where we needed assembly, and swapped out code as needed from the EMULATOR, which was written in C. This took quite a bit of time, and turned into quite a magnificent bit of work. So we had to slowly cobble together performance speed by doing things like writing code that more easily hits the cache every time it’s called.
Not buying the excuse. And not buying the games even if I have a New Nintendo 3ds because I am sick of being ripped off. In other news the wonderfully ported Sega Classic Collection by M2 will be available on April 26. Perfectly compatible with standard 3ds. In 3D.
@bitleman How is the comparison irrelevant, they are the other big gaming company selling digital versions of beloved old games for their new hardware, and are using a model that is more considerate to their customers. And in the case of these games its not selling at a loss...it's just the same file. And optimised emulators on different consoles able to read that same file. Something Nintendo should plan for the future (hopefully)
People will always want new games and people will always want to play these classic old games without the inconveniences and hurdles of dusting off their old consoles and connecting them to their modern TVs. There's no need to rip them off and alienate even the most loyal supporters with corporate greed.
@JaxonH Yes no ps1 on ps4 really is a bummer and I hop they do something about it! But hey, you can play those games on Vita or PS3...or PSP. And considering you have just to buy them once, I feel like Sony is really cheaper on retro gaming habits. Also: frequent PSN sales. I have bought Fire Emblem 3 (PSP game) for 3 euros just last week...and I barely remember ever paying full price for digital content.
@Xenocity please stop spreading misinformation, it's just disgraceful. The ps4 doesn't support ps1classics at the moment and if it ever will, the games you already bought from the store on psp/ps3/vita will be available for free since they are marked as "bought" on the store and are the same file. And you needed to buy them just once since they were introduced almost 10 years ago.
The FF7 game you are referring to is not a ps1 classic, it's a hd remaster (a port of the STEAM version) with trophy support and other bells and whistles that is even more different than let's say Ocarina of Time on the WiiU VC and the 3DS remake. The other games you are saying they are forcing user to rebuy are ps2 (not ps1) games upscaled to 1080p with trophy support and were never available on the older consoles. The price on digital GameCube (same era as ps2) games? Oh we don't have those in the first place. And the N64 ones are 2 to 4 times the price of the psx ones (same era). It's sickening.
As much as Sony is not a company I can force myself to Iove, they handle digital sales so much better than Nintendo that is just embarrassing.
The standard 3ds emulated the Sega Genesis/Megadrive pretty fine and in 3D to boot. So I take the "New 3DS only" apologists' comments with pinch of salt. Or two.
I own a n3DS and would totally be into this if the pricing wasn't crazy and the unified Nintendo account actually meant I didn't have to pay 2 (3) times for titles I already bought on the Wii and then on the WiiU Virtual Console (not to mention the original cartridge most of the times). These titles are classics so it's pretty normal that people are excited to be able to play them in a way that is comfortable now, instead of going through the inconveniences and hurdles of connecting their consoles of yore to their current day tv sets. But once they paid for the digitalised form of a game once, or even twice, it should be enough...
At this point my relationship with Nintendo on stuff like this is the one of a wife trapped in an abusive marriage by her deeply rooted affection for her own persecutor.
How to turn something exciting (if long overdue) in something just terrible: why am I supposed to pay AGAIN? If I, say, buy a song on iTunes from my PC I don't have to pay again to listen to it from my phone! So pissed!
@J-Manix98 wish we had fire emblem! This thing of releasing different games at different times in Europe and USA is infuriating. now on the web you have spoilers for both games >_<
Man, the entitlement! I could get behind some of the point he was making but he has got to work n his communication skills. A lot.
Nintendo is probably getting the big software houses on board, I am sorry but indie games don't sell consoles even if they are a very nice and welcome side dish!
With some solid RPGs from 3rd parties I could happily switch to a one console set, owning only the NX...that's the dream. I like Sony's systems but if Nintendo machines offered the same 3rd party offerings I'd have no doubt on whose first party content I'd prefer...
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Re: The Legend of Zelda Wii U Has Been Pushed Back to 2017, Will Release On NX As Well
@starman292 yes, I get what they were trying to do with the motion controls but I found out that I have much more fun without the motion controls because it is Zelda...my body just remembers how it plays and I get really immersed in it.
Re: The Legend of Zelda Wii U Has Been Pushed Back to 2017, Will Release On NX As Well
Not really that surprised about the dual version but a little bummed about the release date. Now I have to wait and understand what version I want...I am so regretting getting Twilight Princess on Wii, I would have loved the GameCube version a lot more.
Re: 10 Years On, Hideki Kamiya Still Doesn't Think He Could Better Okami
The HD version they released on PS3 was so amazing...it mad it really shine as one of the best games ever made. Hope it finds it ways to a Nintendo eshop in the future
Re: Get Ready To Spend Those Platinum Points, New My Nintendo Rewards Are Live
I ike that SNES Hoodie. Can I get it in real life?
I'll be getting it after Zelda Picross anyway!
Re: Random: Even Sonic the Hedgehog's 25th Anniversary Can't Avoid Memes on the Official Twitter Account
I really feel like a Sonic Game, hope something tasty comes our way. Generations was lovely!
Re: Nintendo of America Opens the Teaser Site for Metroid Prime: Federation Force
I am trying to approach this with an open mind but this looks so aged...like a DS game. And the art direction is so bland! I'll wait for the reviews / demo before buying it even if i love Metroid insanely.
^ I enjoyed Other M too.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think of My Nintendo and Miitomo?
Miitomo is alright but it really need something more to keep people hooked on the long run...My Nintendo is perfectly fine if they start including points vouchers in physical releases.
Re: Rumour: New Nintendo NX Controller Images Surface and Set the Web Alight
Look at the picture and now imagine playing something like Street Fighter or the Witcher with that. I really don't think they are going to scare third party developers like that so I stay #teamfake.
Re: Nikkei Report Suggests That Wii U Production Will End in 2016
Very short lifespan if it's true but I've no regrets and there are still a couple of games like #FE and Zelda that I really want to play. Also, this is the console that brought me Bayonetta 2, so everything is forgiven!
I am more worried about how hasty this NX launch seems to be getting.
Re: Video: SEGA Shows Off Three Neat Locations for Time Travel in 7th Dragon III Code: VFD
I always wanted to play this! I hope it comes to Europe.
Re: The Game Boy Advance is Now 15 Years Old
@AVahne I agree on that wild top 3 of yours hahaha. Lovely consoles. If only the nomad didn't drink batteries...
Re: The Game Boy Advance is Now 15 Years Old
Best Nintendo Handeld imho! Wonderful Library, decent power for its era, perfect design, no gimmick. It holds a special place in my heart.
Re: Poll: Are You Ready to Download More of Your Retail Games From the eShop?
I generally prefer to own a physical copy because I feel like doing so I have true ownership of the title and I cant look at it on the shelf, lend it to my mates and siblings etc. What if in a distant future Nintendo pulls the plug of the store and I am not able to re-download some of the content I bought? (I know it's a very unlikely scenario, but still...)
With the 3DS though I don't mind having some digital versions so I can have them on the SD without swapping the cartridge...an inviting pricing does the trick. If the price is the same, I will always go physical and usually save some money buying from online sellers.
I hope Nintendo will have more deal and offers in the vein of Steam and PSN so I can collect some of those coins.
Re: Here's Why SNES VC Games Can Only be Played on a New 3DS
@Dr_Corndog Oh, my 3D Super Metroid - I would buy that in a heartbeat! It's one of the best game ever made imho but, just like you, I just can't process a third digital purchase
Re: Review: Super Mario World (New 3DS / SNES)
@VanillaLake Thanks! Will get the WiiU version so I can play it off-screen as well then
Re: Review: Super Mario World (New 3DS / SNES)
This is one of the games I did not buy on the VC so I could see myself buying without feeling too bad (or feeling abused). But what would you guys recommend? WiiU Version of Super Mario World? WiiU version of Super Mario Advance 2? Or this?
Re: Here's Why SNES VC Games Can Only be Played on a New 3DS
@Discostew Thank you for your insight! It was very informative.
@Dr_Corndog Yes I agree and I understand your position and also the position of those seeing SNES titles on standard 3DS as possible (though not just through the use of an emulator). It surely would have taken more time/resources but it feels like Nintendo fans have been wanting these forever.
All the inputs you guys provided, ranging from extremely polite to snappily entitled have surely softened my skeptic position about Nintendo's commitment in the operation!
I still won't buy the games but that's just because of pricing and lack of cross-buy or at least an encouraging discount for multiple dips but this was the topic of another post here on NintendoLife.
I could have justified the extra bucks somehow if they took sega's approach and went the extra miles outside pure emulation to make this work but as it is, I sadly have to pass because I feel we really deserve a better VC pricing model.
Re: Here's Why SNES VC Games Can Only be Played on a New 3DS
@liveswired it took a lot of effort to get those game running and more than straight forward emulation, but I get your point.
Re: Here's Why SNES VC Games Can Only be Played on a New 3DS
@Dr_Corndog I understand lol. But I also understand what you mean and why some of you guys won't consider this as emulation. Though it is, partly...with a lot of extra work.
"we swapped out code as needed from the emulator, which was written in C. This took quite a bit of time, and turned into quite a magnificent bit of work."
From other interviews it's also clear they treated every single game a a stand alone entity: in Sonic 2 they used the polygons that were rendered for the bonus stage before the rendering, cause it was much easier that way to get the 3d effect and get the ads to run it, while Fantasy Zone posed little trouble and just a tweak of the emulator. So I am totally on board to say this took time and effort! But emulation is definitely involved in the process.
Re: Five Wii U Releases Confirmed for Nintendo Selects Range in Europe
MMM I could get me some NSMBU!
The only thing I don't like about this kind of re-releases is that they change the packaging and really make you feel like you're cheap XD
The ugliness of the European PSP best hits or what were they called is burned in my eyes forever. They came in orange and black polka dots...
Re: Fans Should Expect "Something New" With Zelda Wii U, Says Eiji Aonuma
I like this approach. Imho Zelda is one of the series that made the best transition from 2D to 3D but then it kinda got stale in terms of gameplay. A very, very nice kind of stale. So I am ready for some changes. And I am sure Nintendo will deliver an open world with an unprecedented level of polish for the industry.
Re: Here's Why SNES VC Games Can Only be Played on a New 3DS
@AlexSora89 thanks I'll read it, I am coming from reading this http://www.siliconera.com/2013/12/03/emulating-megadrive-3ds-isnt-easy-enter-3d-sonic-hedgehog/ on siliconera where they explain how they basically tweaked an emulator for the games, resulting in a lot more work than they thought.
Re: Here's Why SNES VC Games Can Only be Played on a New 3DS
@Gex91 Yes it would have surely taken more time, basically it seems they built an emulator and then coded some part of the games. Totally can see Nintendo not wanting/having time to do it and it's what a lot of people are saying basically. They didn't want to spend time/money on it but could have done it on the standard model. I am not saying that they should have done it...
@Einherjar yes dear, and you are implying that other users are writing BS and you just know the truth, When in fact you are spreading misinformation by saying SEGA didn't emulate the games or in your holy words of wisdom ""squaaak...not emulated...squaaak"".
Re: Here's Why SNES VC Games Can Only be Played on a New 3DS
@Einherjar well, first you could stop snappily answering things like "not emulation" to everyone pointing out the sega classics, since as we saw, it is emulation. Just more time and resource consuming than vanilla one.
Secondly please accept it's just opinions and not try to enlighten us all with your holy gospel! It's really an aggravating attitude.
Maybe you are right, maybe someone else is, who knows?
Re: ​DLC Review: Fire Emblem Fates: Revelation
Just read the last paragraph to be sure not to spoil myself but YAY! I just can't wait for this to come to Europe.
Re: Here's Why SNES VC Games Can Only be Played on a New 3DS
@Einherjar And you have all the financial evidence and are not giving me an answer that is just more entitled than mine? Let's say agree to disagree because I can see there's no real communication here.
Re: Here's Why SNES VC Games Can Only be Played on a New 3DS
@Einherjar I see what you mean but "we don't have the time and resources to do it", is very different from "we can't do it". Not to mention M2 had difficulties because they wanted the games to run in 3D and the Genesis/Megadrive is faster than the SNES in the first place.
We cut some of the fat, accelerated things by writing some assembly code and whatnot. However for the 3DS remakes, we wanted to effectively utilize the 3DS’s CPU resources as much as possible, so we wrote assembly where we needed assembly, and swapped out code as needed from the EMULATOR, which was written in C. This took quite a bit of time, and turned into quite a magnificent bit of work. So we had to slowly cobble together performance speed by doing things like writing code that more easily hits the cache every time it’s called.
Re: Here's Why SNES VC Games Can Only be Played on a New 3DS
@Einherjar But it IS emulation. Just done game by game and dealing with the problems. This interview is very informative. Basically, t's emulation. Just not easy. http://www.siliconera.com/2013/12/03/emulating-megadrive-3ds-isnt-easy-enter-3d-sonic-hedgehog/
Re: Here's Why SNES VC Games Can Only be Played on a New 3DS
Not buying the excuse. And not buying the games even if I have a New Nintendo 3ds because I am sick of being ripped off. In other news the wonderfully ported Sega Classic Collection by M2 will be available on April 26. Perfectly compatible with standard 3ds. In 3D.
Re: Review: Joe's Diner (Wii U eShop)
@Ryu_Niiyama Don't feel too bad - same here! The version sung by the intercom previously known as Britney.
Re: 'Special Reveal' Teased for Sonic the Hedgehog Anniversary Panel at SXSW
I say Sonic Adventure 3 or Sonic Generations 2 ! And both are cool in my book.
Re: Editorial: Nintendo's Virtual Console Revolution Must Wait as We Pay Once More for SNES Games
@bitleman How is the comparison irrelevant, they are the other big gaming company selling digital versions of beloved old games for their new hardware, and are using a model that is more considerate to their customers. And in the case of these games its not selling at a loss...it's just the same file. And optimised emulators on different consoles able to read that same file. Something Nintendo should plan for the future (hopefully)
People will always want new games and people will always want to play these classic old games without the inconveniences and hurdles of dusting off their old consoles and connecting them to their modern TVs. There's no need to rip them off and alienate even the most loyal supporters with corporate greed.
Re: Editorial: Nintendo's Virtual Console Revolution Must Wait as We Pay Once More for SNES Games
@JaxonH wow throw in Valkyria Chronicles and it's exactly the same as mine. like 100%. Playing Bravely Second atm.
Re: Editorial: Nintendo's Virtual Console Revolution Must Wait as We Pay Once More for SNES Games
@JaxonH I wish! Good taste, anyway!
I feel like we'll be playing a lot of the same games this year hahah (#FE? Persona 5?)
Re: Editorial: Nintendo's Virtual Console Revolution Must Wait as We Pay Once More for SNES Games
@JaxonH LOL sorry ! BREATH OF FIRE 3! So much typing FIRE EMBLEM these days (HYPED) that I just auto-wrote it.
There's still Vita (better fit for retrogaming than ps4 maybe) but yes I want that ps1 support so bad.
Re: Editorial: Nintendo's Virtual Console Revolution Must Wait as We Pay Once More for SNES Games
@JaxonH Yes no ps1 on ps4 really is a bummer and I hop they do something about it! But hey, you can play those games on Vita or PS3...or PSP. And considering you have just to buy them once, I feel like Sony is really cheaper on retro gaming habits. Also: frequent PSN sales. I have bought Fire Emblem 3 (PSP game) for 3 euros just last week...and I barely remember ever paying full price for digital content.
Re: Editorial: Nintendo's Virtual Console Revolution Must Wait as We Pay Once More for SNES Games
@Xenocity please stop spreading misinformation, it's just disgraceful. The ps4 doesn't support ps1classics at the moment and if it ever will, the games you already bought from the store on psp/ps3/vita will be available for free since they are marked as "bought" on the store and are the same file. And you needed to buy them just once since they were introduced almost 10 years ago.
The FF7 game you are referring to is not a ps1 classic, it's a hd remaster (a port of the STEAM version) with trophy support and other bells and whistles that is even more different than let's say Ocarina of Time on the WiiU VC and the 3DS remake. The other games you are saying they are forcing user to rebuy are ps2 (not ps1) games upscaled to 1080p with trophy support and were never available on the older consoles. The price on digital GameCube (same era as ps2) games? Oh we don't have those in the first place. And the N64 ones are 2 to 4 times the price of the psx ones (same era). It's sickening.
As much as Sony is not a company I can force myself to Iove, they handle digital sales so much better than Nintendo that is just embarrassing.
Re: Reports Point to a 'Nintendo Land' Universal Studios Theme Park Area for 2020 in Osaka
Cool! Nintendo and theme parks totally work well and there are already a few game related attractions at US Osaka, like Resident Evil and MonHun.
Re: Konami and Capcom Are Bringing Some SNES Classics to New 3DS
The standard 3ds emulated the Sega Genesis/Megadrive pretty fine and in 3D to boot. So I take the "New 3DS only" apologists' comments with pinch of salt. Or two.
I own a n3DS and would totally be into this if the pricing wasn't crazy and the unified Nintendo account actually meant I didn't have to pay 2 (3) times for titles I already bought on the Wii and then on the WiiU Virtual Console (not to mention the original cartridge most of the times). These titles are classics so it's pretty normal that people are excited to be able to play them in a way that is comfortable now, instead of going through the inconveniences and hurdles of connecting their consoles of yore to their current day tv sets. But once they paid for the digitalised form of a game once, or even twice, it should be enough...
At this point my relationship with Nintendo on stuff like this is the one of a wife trapped in an abusive marriage by her deeply rooted affection for her own persecutor.
And I say enough is enough.
Re: SNES Games Finally Arriving on the New Nintendo 3DS Virtual Console
@PigmaskFan Ty, Yoshi's Island threw me off!
Re: SNES Games Finally Arriving on the New Nintendo 3DS Virtual Console
@JaxonH weren't snes games given as part of the ambassador program at the very beginning of ads life cycle? I have a new 3ds, but just saying.
On no cross buy or reduction on titles: it's just plain terrible and it really needs no defence, please.
Re: SNES Games Finally Arriving on the New Nintendo 3DS Virtual Console
How to turn something exciting (if long overdue) in something just terrible: why am I supposed to pay AGAIN? If I, say, buy a song on iTunes from my PC I don't have to pay again to listen to it from my phone! So pissed!
Re: Guide: Learn How to Transfer Items from Bravely Second's Demo to Bravely Second: End Layer
@J-Manix98 wish we had fire emblem! This thing of releasing different games at different times in Europe and USA is infuriating. now on the web you have spoilers for both games >_<
Re: Nintendo Acknowledges Tough Conditions by Cutting Profit and Sales Forecasts
@zool Ps3 games still coming out now...
Re: Ori and the Blind Forest Director Criticises Secrecy and Lack of Access to NX Devkits
Man, the entitlement! I could get behind some of the point he was making but he has got to work n his communication skills. A lot.
Nintendo is probably getting the big software houses on board, I am sorry but indie games don't sell consoles even if they are a very nice and welcome side dish!
Re: Yo-kai Watch Begins Its European Quest on 29th April
Nintendo, I need to know when Fates comes out so I can plan my life around it.
Re: Rumour: Final Fantasy VII Remake And XV Headed To NX, Could Be Definitive Versions
With some solid RPGs from 3rd parties I could happily switch to a one console set, owning only the NX...that's the dream. I like Sony's systems but if Nintendo machines offered the same 3rd party offerings I'd have no doubt on whose first party content I'd prefer...
Re: Download the Bravely Second Demo and Get 10% Off the eShop Version of the Game
I'd gladly give you Bravely Second if we could have FE in Europe sooner
Re: Nintendo Drops Behind Sony in Japan as Wii U Sales Tumble
Well but with the rumoured release of Mother 3 ...oh wait they already have it. (ENVY)
Re: Video: Paying Tribute To Secret Of Mana's Superlative Soundtrack
@invictus4000 I feel you. ;_;