It's now been a few hours since Nintendo wrapped up its Nintendo Switch Presentation, during which it revealed a whole range of launch details. We learnt more about what the system can do, saw a lot of games, and discovered how much it'll cost.
Our Nintendo Switch section has all the news articles, while you can watch the presentation again on this page. As the dust settles, how do you feel about the presentation and the console? Hit up the poll and comments below and let us know.
What did you think of the Nintendo Switch Presentation? (3,892 votes)
It was amazing, delivered on all the hype19%
It was rather good, I enjoyed it39%
I'm not sure what I think yet11%
It was slightly disappointing, but could have been worse20%
I thought it was a poor effort, actually12%
What are your thoughts on the Nintendo Switch system at this stage? (3,635 votes)
It looks fantastic29%
I think it's quite promising, it has potential47%
Hm, I don't know8%
It's a little underwhelming11%
I'm not at all impressed5%
Are you planning to pre-order a Nintendo Switch? (3,623 votes)
It's done, 100%!28%
Yep, I'm planning to get a pre-order down20%
I haven't decided yet14%
Not planning it right now, but I may change my mind12%
I was disappointed tbh. No VC mentions and the launch titles they focused on, being Arms and 1 2 Switch just weren't my thing. A pre order is down though purely on the strength of Zelda. Here's hoping the launch software is actually built upon, and we get some clarity soon regarding VC...
The only good thing about the presentation was Breath of the Wild. The rest was rather poor to be honest. Still going to get a Switch for Zelda though.
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I thought the presentation was good but there were plenty of missteps. I get the feeling Nintendo are saving up a big slate of game announcements for later today or closer to the launch... but they needed to show MORE.
Most people have probably forgotten we have more news to come today.
The presentation only announced 2 launch day games. The console looked awesome and so did the games but 2 launch day games completely killed the presentation and hype for me.
I thought the presentation itself was pretty awful (especially with those horrific translators; what the hell happened there?), but the stuff they showed for me was a mixed bag. Zelda and Mario look amazing and I like the look of the console itself, but the price and launch lineup was very disappointing.
I guess I will be getting BOTW on my lovely Wii U then after all.
I personally feel like Nintendo has completely alienated their slightly smaller fans, like myself. The price is too high, there isn't enough games, the initial launch lineup is tremendously weak, bad value overall, no game bundle, ONLINE SUBSCRIPTION, WHICH WILL BE PRETTY MUCH REQUIRED FOR SPLATOON 2 + MK8D, among a plethora of many other things, including a minish 32 GB of storage space. One major plus I have to give to the presentation though, is that THE BUILDUP MUSIC. HOLY SH*T. I WANT. IT WILL SOMEHOW LIVE ON MY iPOD SOME DAY.
That aside though, a lot of this presentation was a major turn off. And it screams and oozes that it's specifically for the young adult/people who don't care about a few lost dollars here and there demographic. They have really moved on leaps and bounds from dem wittle kiddies of the Wii U era. It's honestly kind of breathtaking of the amount of company image change from just 1 or 2 years ago.
All of a sudden, I feel much, much closer to my GameCube and Wii U. Oh well, great excuse to finish my Cube library and start building up my U's. Plenty of progress to be made on dem fun machines. So that's a win.
And yes, I realize I'm being quite dramatic here in your view, but this is just how I feel at the moment. So sorry my opinion isn't yours.
Its price and online fee are definitely a bummer.
Zelda was amazing, but I have a Wii U for that.
Xenoblade 2 left me disappointed.
I wish they'd shown more of SMT because this is a game that could convince to buy Switch.
All i know is that youtube sucks!
I had to releoad the page 6 times during the presentation!
Missedmout on the Xenoblade reveal!
If they have the red/blue joy con console bundled with Zelda then that's what I'll preorder. I hope they have a black model as shown in this articles picture. I enjoyed the presentation and look forward to seeing the slate of launch games for March 3rd.
@DanteSolablood And not only that, but third-party studios can actually announce and go in-depth in what they're working on now. I want more info on Dragon Quest XI and the like.
Yeah, I can wait. The Mario Kart 8 characters are nice but I have no intentions of paying for online on top of PS+. They better make the subscription cheap or offer something similar to Sony/Microsoft. My highlight definitely was XC2 and Fire Emblem warriors.
(32 GB internal memory is a joke. It may be enough for handheld ports but it's nowhere near enough for 3rd party games)
Good job, Nintendo !
Well, maybe some contents still haven't presented yet ( About integration between Switch and smartphone, cooporation with DeNa, official game box art, user interface, tutorial how to turn on & turn off the machine, etc). But i'm sure Nintendo will explain later.
Anyway, I still confused about Online service. After 6 month free, it will be paid service. What is that means ?
I'll make a final decision from news over the weekend. Right now I have work to do.
@MarcelRguez There are definitely a few things that interest me that we'll start finding out about. I'm a big RPG fan yet have never really made my way to DragonQuest. This will give me a chance.
@MajinSoul People have been over this. You don't need a 500GB-1TB hard drive on a console like the Switch unless you plan to go digital-only.
@iGen At least you are aware of how you sound
Let's not forget this is just the first batch of software for the system. Nintendo doesn't focus their reveals on one single event, remember?
I thought it was fantastic.Apart from some dodgy translating,especially that Suda 51 part it was paced really well.There's so many games that appeal to me and the system itself looks fantastic.I have no issue with paying for online either as I'm sure it'll come with perks to make it worth it.My only complaints were the lack of launch day titles,or at least information on them.i'm sure we'll find out in the next few days.I think there'll be a Direct in the coming weeks.
@Anti-Matter according to the website VC titles - or some of them - will be free to paid users. And they're adding online functionality to NES andSNES titles apparently.
Was hyped before, now I'm just glad I have my wiiU. Poor effort Nintendo. From a household that has multiple wiiU's and were planning on getting multiple switch consoles I don't really see why at the moment.
Well the presentation convinced me to get one sooner rather than later, so it must be doing something right.
Personal highlights were REGION FREE!!, Splatoon 2, Super Mario Odyssey, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Fire Emblem Warriors (I wished for this directly before the presentation started), and Breath of the Wild (if I'm able to get a Switch on launch day, I'll get the Switch version). "Arms" didn't quite click with me at first, but it's slowly growing on me the more I look into it. (The control set up kind of reminds me of the arcade version of Virtual On, which I loved.)
I also got pretty excited for the announcements of Puyo Puyo Tetris getting localized for the Switch (and PS4), and Sonic Mania coming to the Switch (will probably cancel my PC special edition pre-order if Switch gets a special edition too). And apparently there's a new Bomberman coming to the Switch? Who saw that coming?
If there was one thing I didn't like, it was the announcement that online will cost money now, which I don't think anyone likes.
@RedeadLink Zelda is still coming to Wii U. Personally I'm getting the Wii U version now because the Switch literally has zero appeal to me now. Maybe down the line when more games are released but right now I'm extremely letdown.
Xenoblade, fire emblem, no more heroes & mario were my highlights, as they all come out later, I will wait until they're out. Small memory & paying for online were downsides, 12switch & arms are not for me.
Oddly seen so much Zelda I'll probably not buy it for a while
@ottospooky "Adding online to NES and SNES"
That would be superb.It's been a long time wish of mine,I had hoped it would happen on Wii U but it wasn't to be.
@MarcelRguez The thing is because stores don't always get the games you want on the wiiU and 3DS a lot of us have already gone pretty much digital on these systems and would probably continue on the switch. So storage had become much more important than it once was.
Everything about the system looks great from what I've seen...but, there's one huge problem.
Not, enough, games. If all the games shown were coming out by the end of spring, that would be fantastic; and yet, they're doing the same thing they did with the Wii U. I get that BOTW will be fantastic, but I don't think it's enough to gather that wide market appeal that the Wii U never got a hold of. Do they expect the Switch to be a success just because it uses NVIDIA and sets itself apart from the Wii? After seeing eye-to-eye on Mario Kart 8's battle mode I would have thought they'd understand that the Switch needed to start with a bunch of new games, right off the bat. We'll see.
At the very least, I have little intention of grabbing the system until Mario Odyssey rolls around.
That presentation was abysmal. I've never been so disappointed by Nintendo as I am right now. It's almost as if they're begging for their fans to go away. To the people that are excited - that's great. I'm happy for you. But personally I don't understand why anyone would want this at launch. I was super hyped prior to this presentation but it's my own fault because I was extremely confident Nintendo would hit it out of the park, but somehow Switch is already making the Wii U look like a home run.
I still missed some more information of the actual Maschine. How does the OS look and feel? Is it still the same slow crap like what Wii U have?
What other functionality does it have. Can I use Netflix and a browser? What is the touchscreen used for? Can it be used as a tablet?
What about backwards compatibility and the VC? And what about the unified account system?
There are still so many unanswered questions, witch is annoying me. But I like the games they were showing, and that's the most important part
@MarcelRguez How so? Honest question, do you own a PS4 or Xbox One? Every physical copy of games I bought needed at least 20-30gb of space. Black Ops 3 even needed 50 gb. I can already see this becoming a problem for 3rd party developers. Also, digital>physical on a portable console. The only thing Nintendo has going for it is the fact that you can use cheap SD cards unlike Sony with it's ridiculous prices.
@Raptor78 I'm guessing Amazon or other digital shops aren't an option for you?
@MajinSoul That's a consequence of those consoles using optical media. The Switch won't need large installs, if at all.
NL should share the awesome parental control featuring Bowser XD
I was slightly disappointed to be honest. I hoped for more and for more strong presentation. In my subjective opinion, that didn't happen. But they showed a lot of what they promised and even some surprises.
The system itself looks great and the games coming for it. The problem is the price is a tad higher than expected and so far it's launch may be quite weak outside of Zelda.
Then again, they may instead me planning on a steady stream of releases. My theory is they pushed MK8D back to April as most Day 1 buyers will be busy for the first month on Breath of Wild.
Also if you actually look at their webpage you will see numerous games they didn't mention. They should have stretched the multi-game trailer showing each title and release date.
So biggest negative is they presented the info poorly.
The whole point of a console's launch is the games.
Nintendo claimed they have learnt the lessons from the WiiU flop launch but I have my doubts.
Yet tonight the launch line up is very weak. You don't need a Switch for Zelda.
A really great presentation of the hardware let down by the software.
Fah. It's how I feel at the moment. Me, along with many other people.
Tbh, it's mainly the system price and online subscription that killed much of it for me. I can't afford $300 for a system with no killer exclusive games that I can't get on my U, and every time I'm on Mario Kart 8, I'm online. Every time I'm on Sm4sh, I'm online. Of course, every time I'm on Splatoon, it's online. Paid online is something which I just cannot sustain in my current life position.
Don't get me wrong, this thing will definitely be mine some day eventually, but I'm sensing nowhere near now. So…
@OdnetninAges I don't think anyone likes paying an online subscription. The real issue is that people are always asking for more services but don't realize that they cost money... there was probably a reason why Nintendo had the worst online experience but was the last one to be free.
Game prices have raised less than £5 in the UK since the early 90s yet most things cost nearly double & yet games developers need 10x the staff. Not sure where the money is to run servers for the games, servers for the voice chat and on top of that host downloads etc. etc.
I'm surprised at the voting so far really. For what they had to show, I feel they really ruined the messaging. Imagine what it would have been like without Zelda.
Price and bundle woes aside, they didn't sell the idea of 1, 2, Switch at all.
I really really hope all the hands on impressions change my mind on all this.
And I'm a damn 'fanboy'!
@MarcelRguez Digital sales and cross purchasing make it better to get through eShop first hand. That and the humble bundle codes and the fact you can go online and buy cheap digital codes to purchase games on eShop pretty much make digital cheaper than getting all but the most popular games from online retailers.
I thought the presentation was overlong and didn't show enough games that were going to be out at release. 1-2-Switch and Arms looked pretty terrible. It didn't really show us anything new about console. No real examples of uses of all the featured it has got. What do we use the touchscreen for? Why can it recognise rock, paper scissors?
@iGen I can understand your position. Even if it doesn't appeal to you right now, once the new games start rolling you might come around. For me, Super Mario Odyssey, XC2 and Fire Emblem Warriors are already a promising start.
The mario odyssey reveal was my best nintendo moment in a long time!
The presentation was very... Japanese with a fair amount of focus on games that won't be big sellers in the West. There was a huge amount of hype leading into this and I'm happy that we didn't have any huge disappointments (no Zelda delay, confirmation of Splatoon 2, Skyrim, MK8, new Mario).
Perhaps separate presentations for the various regions would have worked better.
Anyway, pre-order in with Amazon.
I would switch (pun intended) Splatoon 2 for Splatoon Deluxe Edition and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe for Mario Kart 9, but apart from that I'm eager to get it. Anyway, it seems like price in Europe is even higher, not the usual dollar-euro conversion, which would be 299,99 €, and in the end it seems it will be 329,99 €. It's a shame and I'll have to save more, so I won't get it day one.
And if it's true that it's starting to become sold out... all the more so.
Of course Nintendo haters popped out again and all they see is negative things: paid online (hello? PS4 and Xbox One?), "just a tablet", price (again: hello?), "a console for Nintendo fans", "let's see if the third party support holds up", "I wanted a console with Nintendo franchises AND Rise of the Tomb Raider, Red Dead Redemption 2, et cetera".
The presentation itself was somewhat poor, and will certainly not grab the attention of the public the way the first look at the Switch did.
That said, Super Mario Odyssey, Splatoon 2, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Shin Megami Tensei, and Breath of the Wild. Wow, wow, wow! That's five guaranteed top-shelf games, already half the size of my Wii U library and the system isn't even out yet. Granted, SMT and Xenoblade are a bit aways, but still.
Oh, and we can't forget that Travis Touchdown is coming back!
Loved the presentation, the only thing I missed for join the Switch hype was a nice software reveal and with things like Mario, Fire Emblem Warriors and more I'm convinced I'll have to buy the Switch at some point without any "maybe".
My only problem is the paid-service, with how casually I play online it's an hard sell for me, but not having it will cut me out of Splatoon, the only online shooter I ever enjoyed ;w;
(And I know Splatoon 2 will have free online with the trial period, but buy a game knowing it will be unplayable in a matter of few months is...not the sweetest deal for say the least >.<).
I loved it, but i was going to. It looks like Zelda, Memory card, and console. That equals about $420.00 US at launch. I preordered. I know I'm going to need a second controller which is like $70.00 more. I just hope I can get one more good announcement for launch.
After watching I feel little to no interest in buying a Switch. Though this is coming from someone who already owns a Wii U. We will see how things pan out with more information being released. If they don't provide a smooth transition for Wii U users then I see no reason to upgrade.
@MarcelRguez I don't want you to feel like I'm attacking you in any way. I kind of went digital because stores started letting me down and now I wouldn't look back having a lot of my collection on hard drives and SD cards. I understand it isn't an issue for lots of users like yourself. But it is an issue for others like myself.
Yo have to be a die hard Zelda fan to even consider pre-ordering after the presentation. Now before I get any hate I got up at 4am to watch it and had nintendo and games website up ready to pre order. However the launch line up well lack of is making me wait! Will get Zelda day 1 but on the Wii u. This may change depending on today's events. Plus the price of 279.99 here in the U.K is to much for a console which seems to be mainly ports of games I have or have played for the near future at least
The first part of the show was really good, showing off the console quite well. I'm really digging the console, it's technologies and the playstyles it affords.
Mario looked fantastic! Arms was interestin and 1-2-Switch seem pretty fun in a right situation.
Then there was the part where they talked about a lot of titles that are maybe "coming someday". It showed that the first year won't be anything too exciting apart from just a few First Party heavy hitters.
Then it ended with massive hype thanks to the release date and gorgeous trailer for Zelda!
So yeah, some awesome things, but a lot of unanswered questions and worrying signs that made the show as a whole somewhat disappointing.
That Zelda though... it's all they needed to convince me to preorder!
Let me put it this way: I only cared about two games.
@OorWullie the online info was on nintendo.com. It just said discount games, super nes/nes. There was no mention of gamecube.
@iGen Completely agree. It's like they've learnt nothing from Wii U.
Before the presentation, I was cautiously optimistic. After the presentation, I still feel the same way. While I generally liked what I saw (for the most part), the presentation offered little actual footage of games. (That's to be expected since this system hasn't even launched yet.) I won't be purchasing one March 3 although I will at some point soon-ish. In my opinion, a system's library doesn't really start being fleshed out until about 1.5-2 years into its lifespan.
It was an Awful convoluted message which talked around the one thing I wanted to know: what games will actually be on it at launch?
Ditto. I'm absolutely baffled by the poll results. It's like we weren't even watching the same presentation. Hey, I'm happy for all those that were happy with it. But for my brother and I, that thing was abysmal. Okay, there's Zelda on launch day, which looks phenomenal. But we can also just buy that on the Wii U. The only other thing shown that was a must-have for us was Mario Odyssey - which doesn't come out for another 10 or 11 months. Between that and the fact that the base system is $300, and the ridiculously overpriced accessories ($70 for the Pro controller, and similar prices for other stuff?), well... like I said, I'm amazed at the percentage of positive reactions. But to each his own, I suppose.
Third party support wasn't as mind blowing as I was hoping it would be but I think they may be holding back announcements for E3 or some companies may just be taking the wait and see approach, if some third parties find success, maybe we get more games. Other than that, it made a pretty good first impression. I'm going to hold off until at least the summer because there are a good number of games on consoles I already own that take priority and because I want to see what MS has to say about Project Scorpio at E3. This was not the disastrous grand unveiling that Wii U had, however, so that's a very good thing. Already have a list of games compiled that I'm interested in with Zelda, Mario Odyssey, Ultra Street Fighter II and Xenoblade 2 topping it.
It was pretty much what I expected, in that it's not some bold new era, it's just a continuation of the Wii U. The console is what they wanted the Wii U to be and it's the same kind of games we've been getting.
My biggest worries were confirmed when the first two games they choose to show were ultra casual faire. Nintendo still wants those people back so badly and put so much effort and resources into what might very well be a lost cause.
The highlight by far was Mario. It looked utterly fantastic. No more linear paths and not just the same tired level themes we've been getting for years. Gives me hope that not all is lost.
Won't be picking one up anytime soon though, especially at the UK price point. I understand exchange rate plays a part but it's too much to pay at launch when the one game I really want is not out til the end of the year.
Nintendo could have mentioned much more but I don't know why people complain about the price, like do you want the system to be even less powerful?
Another complain which I dont get is the third party support. Did anyone seriously expect third parties to blindly support the Switch after the failure of the WiiU?
Everything takes time and I believe that with the Japanese third parties the Switch can grow and so will sales and then western third parties will actually be convinced to support the Switch. Be rational people!
Ending with Zelda like that, holy crap!
Liked how they started the presentation and all the the games that are upcoming, but my concern is around what launch titles will be available, they only talked about two; Zelda & 123 Switch. I will see what more information comes over the weekend but so far it's looking like a wait and see approach
Lol the most disappointing thing? No mention of virtual console services!! The best thing for me wasn't even at the presentation. I just saw on Nintendos website the announcement of Arcade Archives series for the Switch from Hamster!!! Opens up a whole new line of classics for a Nintendo console and anyone familiar with this series from the PS4 should know what I'm talking about! Gradius I &II, Scramble, Moon Cresta, Contra,Crazy Climber, Double Dragon I&II, Darius, Legend of Kage, Bubble Bobble, Bomb Jack!!! Again in absence of any VC announcements from Nintendo this is welcome news!!!!
Games at launches like four.
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Just Dance 2017
That is not that good.
Has Been Heroes (March 2017)
I am Setsuna (March 2017)
Sonic Mania (Spring 2017)
Lego City Undercover (Spring 2017)
Arms (spring 2017)
Super Bomberman R (March 2017)
Snipperclips: Cut it Out, Together! (March 2017)
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (April 28, 2017)
Splatoon 2 (Summer 2017)
NBA 2K18 (September 2017)
Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (Fall 2017)
Super Mario Odyssey (Holiday 2017)
So It looks like Bomberman and maybe I am Setsuna besides Zelda for March.
Oh, and as someone mentioned, that one translator both seemed unsure of his translating abilities and sounded extremely bored and uninterested in what he was saying. It just screamed amateur hour.
Only exciting announcement was Mario Odyssey. Other than that it was mostly boring stuff like casual minigames, fifa, and skyrim. Zelda trailer at the end was a weak closure, we already knew the game looks pretty good. Paid online multiplayer, 32 gigs storage is lame too. 5/10 conference at best
But with some efforts (Order from Amazon or Ebay or any kind of Online Shopping website) , some persistence (Eager to get your games until you finally get), some patience (wait your order arrived) and adequate budget, you can make your dream come true.
I love the system... but as a launch presentation they learnt nothing from previous failures. Did they even do a dry run?? Montage, system and unique features, game demos, launch timing and games, roadmap for 2017 and hype for e3... that would have been far more effective. It came across as hollow... but i love the system and botw is phenomenal!
At the beginning (especially when they announced the surprisingly early release date and region free) I was roaring in excitement. As the presentation went on and I saw major titles like Mario Odyssey or Spla2n not making the launch and other key points not even addressed (VC, Mario Kart 8) and other Third party titles simply brushed over for these awkward looking guests, I became bored of it and only stayed until I had the confirmation of Zelda on launch day. I'd give it 7 out of 10 stars.
Some of those translators needed to be Switched to a different job. EEESH.
@mikegamer The final half of that trailer made the hair on the back of my neck stand. Man!
Not gonna pre-order mainly because I won't be back home until July. But anyway, the hype is real here! 1-2-Switch actually looks pretty fun to play.
And that one translator sounded really nervous. Especially at the Suda51 part. You could even hear him sigh in frustration
Poor lineup, a Mario game that looks empty and a not-mario game with Mario coating, high price (plus a mandatory sd card thanks to 32gb only internal memory), battery life shorter than the one on wiiu gamepad...
Definitely going to wait a long time before even considering to buy. I am not gonna have another wiiU at home
Honestly, it could've been much, MUCH worse. Mario Kart and Splatoon can wait. Especially since I have to pay-to-play. AGAIN. But, Breath Of the Wild, Mario Odyssey, and Fire Emblem Warriors makes it day one for me.
I think Nintendo needs to share some thoughts on the online functionality of the Switch. I'll pay for the subscription if it gives me something more in return. I feel the online gaming is pretty gimped already when you consider playing some titles like Splatoon2 on the go. It won't work if you're not on wifi I guess? Plus, what's the deal with voice chat by phone, protecting the kids?
Overall it was a good show.
They showed some great must have titles
Pricing is good
Third Party is there (at the beginning so we'll see how long that lasts)
A couple new IP's taking advantage of the Joycons
The cringe and cheeseyness Nintendo is known for
3-6 Battery life
32gb memory? (Come on Nintendo you could have done better then that)
Launch Line-up not properly shown
VC not shown
Pay online service ( depends on how it goes I can change my mind)
Welp. Just read about the paid online service subscription. I don't think you understand Nintendo. I still haven't purchased the subscription for the PS4 and that's why I hardly play the console.
I get the financial reasoning for doing so. But, I have no intention of purchasing an online subscription service anytime, anywhere remotely soon. Which means any game that uses mostly online, say Splatoon 2, is pretty much off my list.
Maybe you can get the pricing right Nintendo. Maybe. You did it with Pokemon Bank. But I'm not expecting it at this point. There goes one more of your dwindling advantages over Sony/Microsoft.
The presentation was mostly boring to me to be honest. There was awesome stuff in there but the way they presented it was ho hum.
Aaaaand they dropped the ball! Looks like they are banking entirely on Zelda and that weird 1-2 Switch thingy. And I most likely go for the Wii u version of Zelda anyway. Its cool that it has voice-acting, though.
Arms looks interesting, but might be multiplayer-only (I only buy it if it has a decent single-player campaign). There looks to be a true sequel to Xenoblade chronicles. And Mario: Weird, but interesting.
Also: No set price for Europe AGAIN?! I hate that! 300 Dollar for America is to high a price.
I am certainly not convinced!
Oh, and paying for online, no Beyond Good and Evil 2. And 1-2 Switch looks just very embarrassing!
@Rocky2418 that's just it, I can't wrap my head around it.
I want it to do well, truly and there's no doubt that I will get one at some point, especially in light of the fact that my fave genre, JRPG, will see plenty of love but there isn't enough as it stands.
Multiplayer will be limited to local for me, generally, but the pricing of the unit means there's no way I can get 2 for my family and the cost of the controllers rules out anything beyond simplistic JoyCon controls. Can't see me doing long play sessions with 1 JoyCon.
I'm sure I'll get one, but I'm in no rush at the moment. Very underwhelming. Can't believe that 1-2 Switch nonsense isn't a free pack in game (unless I missed something). I mean seriously?!
@Solid_Stannis There were (almost) only 2 games to care about...
It was godawful. It's pretty much guaranteed to flop even worse than Wii U. No chance on the market in this day and age.
Only good thing was Mario, but that won't be enough to save this trainwreck.
I don't kmok in the rest of Europe, but on Amazon.it you can pre order a Switch for only... 329 €... Isn't that cheap? 😥
I was excited at Fire Emblem until it said "Warriors" after it... made me sad.
Mario Odyssey looks good, so does Zelda Botw. But nothing else appeals to me. I already pre ordered but was hoping for FFVII remake and FFXV. I cant believe DQ10 and 11 are japan only. This also makes me sad.
Im not sure what im going to do now, wait and see, they have until March 3rd to convince me to not swap my pre order cash to a ps4 pro instead.
I agree, this will flop immensely. Ironically Zelda doesn't seem to be big in Japan, so 1-2 Switch alone has to reach Japanese people?! Might even flop over there.
And 1,2 Switch, WTF is that crap!? Same for the stupid boxing game.
I was just waiting for an announcement that Monster Hunter XX will be dual-released on Switch and 3DS, but gotta wait some more...
I'm still optimistic but damn there was some nonsense bs games in there, cant figure that out.
The best game series on one portable console with almost as good graphics as a PS4... what could possibly go wrong? Why is everyone so negative around here?
The distinct lack of polish and all-over-the-place messaging seen in the Nintendo Switch Presentation 2017 lost my interest soon after the joycon info... the remaining 40 minutes was pretty much a car crash... somehow they managed to show a dozen games and underwelm with everything beside the LoZ: BotW trailer.
I pre-ordered regardless because I'm a Nintendo fan.
I thought there was too much blah blah blah at the start about the Joy Cons. And I didn't like that the first couple of games were extremely casual type of games. I was thinking it probably wasn't a great idea to showcase the first couple of games as casual games. And they could have done more to show what 3rd parties have been working on. I mean, what the hell has Retro Studios been working on?
I was happy about getting both Dragon Quest Heroes games. And Fire Emblem Heroes was Brilliant news.
I though Capcom might have shown a new Monster Hunter.
Love the game cases.
The system definitely has potential.
There was a disappointing amount of launch games. Since I still have a Wii U for Zelda, I see no reason to pick up a Switch on Day 1.
The Switch is going to need more game announcements before I'm tempted with one.
Dammit! I'm in hospital and missed the presentation. Will phone the store with my pre- order to ask them what bundles they have and ask them to put that by. Sort out the test of the details later. Region free is a bonus.
@MarcelRguez in the announcement they said its Japan only for 10 and 11 it will not be localised for outside Japan
I thought it was great. Not sure what people expect from a launch window, but I suggest people take a peek at the launch window of the number 1 console in the world, the PS4. About 4-5 really good games in the first 8-10 months. The Switch looks set to deliver that. But some always will complain.
@Anti-Matter I have lots of games on disc and cart. And you can buy digital codes online cheaper than the price on eShop and you still get your gold coins for the original value. If your wanting a library of JRpgs and suchlike retailers seem to sell them as a premium or you have to wait ages for them to arrive. I love my KoiTecmo and Atlus games and the eShop is a great and more often cheaper way to do it. Even if you have to buy your digital codes off of trusted online retailers rather than Nintendo themselves. Even physical shops like game sell digital codes cheaper than their physical games and that includes second hand (which is how it should be). Some games I went digital out of simple convenience but the retail copies didn't go to waste as me and my daughter both have a wiiU and the whole household has some kind of 3DS.
I love Nintendo but was disappointed with the presentation. Don't get me wrong I love the joy cons and have preordered but they needed to show of lots of almost finished games and they just didn't. To be honest I'm a bit worried about it all. I want to see them do well.
Voice chat is an app like Skype to use it you will need to be planing with a headset attached to your iPad or iPhone.
This will mean you will need the TV turned up high so you can here the game sound.
Mario Odyssey and BOTW were amazing.
The price of the Switch, its accesories, and its online service are too high when all taken into consideration. That is my biggest concern by far.
There were WAY too many games that were announced for the system via post-presentation press releases, but not shown off in the presentation in self.
I'm not interested with digital download games actually. I'm a game collector. Just want physical games, from Brand New until Used.
Can you explain about paid online service ? I still confused.
My two requisites for considering the system were Zelda as a launch title and a promising future lineup. As a huge rpg and Fire Emblem fan they got that covered big time, so yes, the presentation was good for me and yes, against all odds, I'm actually getting a Switch on launch day.
No showing of online services such as eShop and Virtual Console was a big misstep to me personally. Plus no captivating launch games (aside from Zelda of course). However they really communicated the JoyCon well in the presentation and I'm really excited by the motion control, sensor and 'HD' rumble of the controllers.
Mario Odyssey left a bitter taste in my mouth, I'm sure it'll be great but the sight of Mario running around a city inhabited by humans just brings back memories of Sonic '06...
It felt very much like the Wii u all over again.
1) priced slightly to high to compete
2) trashy motion control games on launch
3) low battery life
4) only zelda worth buying at launch
5) two launch titles only
6) dragon quest 10 and 11 Japan only
7) lots of you will have to wait a little longer games
8) voice chat is an iPad app like Skype
The only high points where zelda, mario and splatoon
@Anti-Matter Imagine Xbox Live or PlayStation Plus on Nintendo a platform.
The wait is over, I am getting a PS4. The Switch is a big NO GO! After the presentation I am even more sure I am not buying one.
I don't play Zelda games and I already own MK8.
PS4 has a new Gran Tourismo and Hot Shots Golf coming out, much more excited about those that anything the Switch has to offer.
For now I will just play my PC, Xbox One, Wii U, 3DS and PS Vita.
THE SWITCH IS DEAD IN THE WATER FOR ME.
I would like to know what I get with online subscription, apart online gaming.
Free VC games? Exclusive discounts on games? FINALLY a online user account to which all my purchases are linked??? (cmon N, in 2017 you can do that...)
My top 5 wants from yesterday where:
2. Animal Crossing
3. Fire Emblem
4. Wave Race
5. Game Cube VC
So none of these were included 😐
I am really looking for the Switch to be the successor to the WiiU AND the 3DS and that's not happening atm.
Project Octopath looks awesome tho. 😃👍
If one thing bothered me about the presentation, it was how many games were announced as launch titles, which was only 1, 2, Switch! and Zelda: BotW. Even if more were announced after the presentation, I currently don't have any other reason to buy a Switch immediately at launch besides Zelda.
@Anti-Matter check out the details here
The presentation showed that Zelda aside we will have some amazing games in two years time.
I preordered it just in case, but I think I'll cancel, because I won't really need the Switch until the new Mario game comes up, and it will surely do it with a bundle, undoubtedly much more attractive than the core console that we'll get in March.
I hope it doesn't affect the initial sales too much, but Nintendo keeps launching consoles without a Mario game ready for day one.
@yomanation Xenoblade is apparently a 2017 title, at least in Japan.
I'm sorry, but I have to say this is not good - £280 for a console, expensive accessories (£65 for a Pro and £75 for a new Joy-Con..!!) and £60 for Zelda BOTW (listed on Amazon now) whereas it's £40 on Wii U, what were Nintendo thinking!??!
I made an investment with the Wii U, it has a great library of games, backwards compatible and (for the moment) free to get online, why would I move to the Switch right now? MK8 and Splatoon I already have, ditto for Xenobalde - no sign of a new Metroid (what have Retro Studios been doing?!) and just like we thought, no 3rd party support in terms of a GTA or an Uncharted (we didn't expect that anyway, but you can hope).
There is no way I'm biting until it's £200 with a pack-in AAA Nintendo 1st party title, what the hell happened?!? I was pretty positive the first 10 mins of the presentation but then it slipped up, where was Miyamoto in all of this too, ah well, let's just see what happens now.
I thought it was good but it could have been a lot better.
I didn't see anything that would convince me to purchase it day one. I was kinda hoping for some sort of flurry of awesomeness that would make it a no brainer to buy straight away but that didn't happen. It seems like they're really relying heavily on Zelda for launch day.
The one game that (surprisingly to me) could have made me attempt to buy at launch was Super Mario Odyssey. I haven't seen as interesting a Mario platformer since Sunshine. Too bad it's not coming until Winter 2017.
Screen is 720p and SD 32gb with zelda battery life at 3hrs
Snes games will get new online features. Zelda mario and splatoon all looked good
It's still going to be 1 yr before you got a console with 3 games
Switch still looks good but the presentation itself was pretty bad and looked kind of improvised and awkward. The joycon section was the most informative part and I wish they had given similar information about the specs and the screen. Not too bothered about power but I would like to know where it stands alongside the PS4 and the Atari 2600.
Games-wise, as others have said, there were not enough, especially for launch. The price seems too high given that it's going to compete with PS and XB which already have established libraries.
No news on VC, eShop or backwards compatability was either a bad move or a bad omen.
I still want a Switch but this whole thing would have been better served by some sizzle reels, trailers and pre-recorded info videos.
I honestly thought the presentation was serviceable and the console itself cool. That may be because I skipped entirely the Wii
U so all this games sound appealing to me, plus I'm pretty much a handheld player this days.
I sincerely don't know what people expected but I've come to terms that Nintendo will never have a mostly positive reception, either by their own undoing or because frankly the gamer community is just freaking jaded. I have made my mind and I will get the console at launch, at worst it will be like the launch of the 3DS and I have other things to do to keep me occupied until this thing builds an interesting library.
Lack of VC was the big thing for me, so many unanswered questions im sure we'll hear about soon and dissappinted Mario won't be a launch title.
I didnt have a problem with the price, but i've seen what thr zelda Special edition could be and its price. So now i have a problem
Bit least now devs can start spilling! Next two months are going to insane
Thought the presentation was really good and the games i am most looking forward to seeing more of in the Treehouse later today are the following.
1 Mario Odessey
2 Splatoon 2
3 Fire emblem Warriors
5 Project Octopath traveller
Have to say i was expecting some other things but i think they will likely show that of later today and during the following days. As i am expecting the treehouse to be mostly about the line-up and maybe give the indies and VC more space as i did miss it during the presentation.
Also i am glad they are spreading the games over the year as i would end up broke if they launched with Mario , Zelda , Splatoon 2 and many others.
jesus christ so so poor so disappointing.
console expensive,accessories even more too expensive,its the wii u all over again.
guys this is nintendo's swansong.RIP
Had it pre-ordered.
Canceled. I'll wait for the games.
I've pre-ordered at two places already and am going down to pre-order at a third, hoping this will be enough for me to get one on launch-day, I'm worried given what happened with the Wii, Mini NES and early Amiibo stock levels!
To be honest, the concole itself looks great to me. It has a lot of potential and they did a great job. They could've done a better job with the presentation though. The main problem is the games, except for Zelda nothing appeals to me. It's just not worth the money right now. There are probably a lot of games in development so it's too early to judge. The success of the Switch now depends on the upcoming games. We'll see.
I pre-ordered it, because I want to own the latest Nintendo console regardless, but the presentation was kind of weak. It started good, but quickly became rather meh. By the end I was left with several unanswered questions (virtual console? analogue triggers?), but the biggest question I had was where are the launch games? Zelda and that stupid looking 1-2 game? That's it? Also would have liked to see an option for a pack-in game and Pro-controller. Speaking of which, $80 is way overpriced for the pro controller. And 32gb HD is pathetic; it was a joke with the Wii U, this time around it's not even funny. If I was patient, I would wait a year to buy the Switch, because that's when it'll really be worth it in regards to the game selection. Despite these shortcomings, I am looking forward to it.
Oh, thank you for the link.
Btw, usually how much I should pay for paid online service ?
What if someday I want to take a break or in low financial condition, can't pay for a moment ?
Sorry, I still a newbie about that service.
Something that kinda bothers me about the subscription fee for online, outside of concerns about the price is the free game you get each month.
From what I can tell other online subscriptions (on PS4 & XboxOne) you get both new and old games for free each month....and you get to keep them.
Free Nes and Snes games you only get to play for a month seem pretty limp in comparison. Especially when you consider some of them will probably be big names you've already played on Virtual Console before. It doesn't seem like much of a sweetener when stacked up against what PS4 and Xbox are offering.
Voice chat is only available on compatible games, this sounds like it won't be in splatoon 2
Happy to pay for online subscriptions but what am I paying for? If first party don't come compatible with voice chat then what's the point in buying splatoon 2 for £50 then having to pay to play it!
From what I can tell other online subscriptions (on PS4 & XboxOne) you get both new and old games for free each month....and you get to keep them.
you get to keep them as long as you keep paying the monthly subs,this includes indie and AAA games......who is seriously going to pay a monthly sub to nes and snes games AND then take it from you??
£280 i hear NO thx thats way overpriced for what it is.
I liked it, (Yay! Bomberman lives!) the new Mario really impressed me. I would've liked to learn how it's Eshop would work though. Discounts on say VC games you already own on previous systems would be nice. (Assuming, it'll have VC.)
I am worried they are already behind schedule like it was for the WiiU, how can you explain developers presentations with absolutely no videos shown. I don't see reasons to preorder for now, I hope they change my mind.
I was underwhelmed. Price too high, games too few!
Usually I buy each new Nintendo console regardless of how it launched. I just feel like this time was the last chance for Nintendo and... they messed it up.
I think Nintendo is done 😭
Undecided at the moment, Switch is in an odd position where its too chunky and the battery life doesn't sound too great so unlikely to tke this to work with me as a handheld, and doesn't seem to offer a great deal as a home console.
A little disappointed by the price point too, seems a touch steep for the specs on offer. Ultimately its all about the games though, while Zelda looks amazing I have a Wii U for that, and Mario isn't until the holiday season, other than that none of the announced games seemed like anything other than typical Nintendo launch window filler desperate to show off the new gimmick.
Maybe this time next year there'll hopefully be a stronger library and a small price cut, then I'll likely pick one up.
I hope the Switch sells well, but at the moment I'm not sure who Nintendo are pitching this thing to
@Sinton Yep,exaclty. I really don't know what people expected.yes the lack of 3rd party games shown was a little disappointing but surely you buy a Nintendo console first and foremost because you like Nintendo games.We've got Zelda,Mario,Splatoon 2,Xenoblade 2,MK8 Deluxe and the new IP Arms which I guarantee turns out to be a lot more than what it looks.I remember all the complaints about Splatoon,saying it should be a cheap Eshop game.Then on top of that,NES and SNES games with added online,Bomberman,Puyo Puyo Tetris and Streetfighter 2 online,FAST Racing Neo,Steep,Rime and lots more.I don't know but as a Nintendo fan,every single one of those games appeal to me.And all this before we hear what exclusive game Ubsoft is bringing,Retro are making and all the surprises at E3. Personally,i couldn't be happier.
@Anti-Matter AFAIK the price was not announced, but I guess it will be few bucks per month. If you don't pay, they will cut off the online features mentioned in the link posted by @Lord
I'm guessing the free VC games you get each month will become unplayable (unless you buy them) and you will miss the discounts.
Lower the price!
I was planning on getting a Switch on its release date, but when I saw the renewed commitment to motion controls, I could only sigh in disappointment. I'm going to wait a few months now after its release to see how much they tie themselves down with idiotic dingle-dongle motion controls (again).
@Raptor78 I bought most of my Wii U games digitally from various online retailers and saved a fair bit but in the last few months as the pound has dropped the prices are quite a bit higher.In most cases they cost the same or even more than you can buy physically from Amazon.
The presentation as a whole (not necessarily the console) was super disappointing.
At least from a western point of view. Crutial information, that could have worked as some sort of positive catalyst was none existent. Online features were quickly brushed over. In 2017... !!! I can and will not believe that the console can not perform things like groups, lobbies, voice chat etc natively but it has to be done by a smart device app. That would be (for me) disastrous and a huge turn off.
The focus on the Joycons (and their outrageous price) is Nintendo stepping back into gimmicks that so far NONE of the 3rd party studios have promoted during the presentation. They are overpriced and I worry that after 12 months no one will actually use their special features in their games.
I stuck with Nintendo even when they have screwed their fanbase over and over. I am easily infected by enthusiasm and positivity. I bought almost all their first party games on the WiiU. I was standing in Line to get a NES Mini. I defended even the most ridiculous decisions (YouTube, shortages, behind competition on every level and so on and so forth)
Please, Nintendo, show us in the next 6 weeks that it is worth it to stand in line again.
So far I´ll wait until E3 before I commit.
I apologise for venting.
@Li_Bae I´m with you on that one, mate.
What are 25% of people actually doing on this website??
Okay, if Nintendo cut the online service due to not pay, can I get online service again once I can pay the fee ? Will I still kept my User ID (Not banned due to not pay) ?
sat at home thinking i should buy a pre owned wii u .ha
The machine looks alright, but none of the games shown were something that couldn't have been made on WiiU, so I'm still struggling to find a reason why I should buy the new console. And given that they halted everything just to get this system ready, I expected so much more. See you in late 2018, Switch!!
@gigoloaunt7 I would not go so far by saying it´s Nintendo´s swansong but I agree with the rest of your statement.
Super dissapointed. This was even worse than the 2013 XBOX ONE show. And that was the worst poo I´ve ever seen.
The price is decent for me, would have like it a tad lower but you can't get everything in life.
The game announced were fantastic - Mario, Zelda, Fire Emblem warriors, Skyrim and Xenoblade? Count me in!
@AhabSpampurse true indeed just keep an eye out for the Tree House footage. VC stuff will probably be talked about more soon
That whole video they thought it would be funny to joke about a release date for Zelda and keep everyone on edge
This was supposed to win over everyone as a new peice of technology. Show what's to come and give us all an incentive to buy at launch, yes it has Zelda which is great but what about other people that are to make the switch over to this console that aren't quite sold on Zelda what else do they have?
Everything else I am so excited for beyond words but it needs the Launch line up secured before it starts getting ahead of itself with release dates down the line.
@Lord You are not quite correct:
It felt very much like the Wii u all over again.
1) priced slightly to high to compete
It is not as high as the WiiU price but that is a fair point.
2) trashy motion control games on launch
The WiiU missed out on good motion control games at launch. That would have changed a lot since Nintendo Land was not enough for the casual community.
3) low battery life
That was not really an issue with the WiiU and the Switch seems to improve a lot. 3-6 hours is quite good and with USB-C I don't see a problem at all. You can fully charge the thing under an hour.
4) only zelda worth buying at launch
The WiiU didn't have a Zelda at launch...
5) two launch titles only
That was not true for the WiiU and isn't true for the Switch as well.
6) dragon quest 10 and 11 Japan only
7) lots of you will have to wait a little longer games
That is true.
8) voice chat is an iPad app like Skype
What is the problem with that?
I'll wait for the hands-on impressions from the weekend, but it's still a day-1 for me. I want to play Zelda on Switch, I'll definitely be picking up Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, same with Splatoon 2, Arms (which could very well be in the same relams as Splatoon), Fire Emblem: Warriors, Mario Odyssey, Dragon Quest: Warriors 1 & 2 and, should it come over (or at least be subtitled), Dragon Quest 11. That SE Octopath game looked tasty, as did Bomber Man. I honestly feel that the knee-jerk to the presentation isn't 100% unwarranted, but they had a schedule and stuck to it - I think developers now have a clear path to announce their wares.
@iGen I agree with you.
What turns me off most is the lack of a bundled game, and the price of the accessories.
It's like Nintendo is trying to milk early adopters before a price drop, rather then aggressively trying to build a user base as early as possible.
Also, where are the games? Pikmin 4? What is Retro up to? Form software? Seriously, what were they thinking with this launch lineup?
Mario Kart not having it's own dedicated spot during the presentation was a mistake. Leading with 2 Wii'esque games was also a mistake. A third mistake was not stating what the launch lineups were for each reason, or not talking about additional system features or virtual console. System really should have some pack-in title option too. Also, price is too high for mass market in my opinion. Launch lineups seem sparse.
What i did like: Zelda, Splatoon 2, Mario, Xenoblade, Bomberman returning yes! Puyo Puyo Tetris, no region lock.
All in all, a mixed bag. Obviously they have more games to reveal but i'm somewhat concerned at the moment.
After being burned by my day one Wii U purchase, I will wait a year or two before I buy a Switch.
yeah mate i was thinking of editing that post about swansong but jesus it very nearly could be...im trying to be positive about it but its so bloody hard to be,waited all night for it just learnt 2 things.
its a very expensive zelda game £280+&40....and region free!i expected all guns blazing.
@Anti-Matter Of course not. You keep your account and games purchased even if you don't pay for a year or two. It isn't required for you to play games - but if you want online multiplayer (say, Splatoon) then you ought to pay.
There shouldn't be a problem getting the online features back too. Just pay again and now you can play your Splatoon with friends.
Parts of the presentation were fine but the Suda 51 part was a disaster and the EA part felt out of place. Other than that the console looks fine just not the revolutionary hardware everyone made it out to be, Mario and Zelda looked great but everything else I'm not so sure especially the boxing game which looked like it should have been part of a Wii Sports type package.
I also think far too much time was spent explaining the gimmicky controller but worst of all was just 2 launch games one of which doesn't even look like a computer game, granted one is Zelda but still.
Definitely not for me at launch, too high a price point and not many games combined with a lot of quality games launching on PS4 that month. Will probably pick up a few months down the line or the latest for when Mario launches
I wasn't impressed with the Switch right when it was announced. I was still hoping that Nintendo would win me with their presentation, but I'm still not impressed. I'm sure the Mario game will be good. There were some big Pros, but I felt like there were too many cons - pricing ($470 AU! Ouch!), paid online service, making us buy another Mario Kart 8 (should really be some discount for those who owned the original), low storage... the list just goes on. Sorry Nintendo, but I'm not buying the Switch anytime soon.
@carlos82 that EA guy just didnt want to be there mate.
"custom" fifa games hmm.
@JJ_64 Where did you get 470$ from?
It is 299,99$. A fair price but of course not the best decision.
@gigoloaunt7 yes he was defiantly grin and bare it!
@Chandlero Probably Switch (300$) + 256 GB SD card (100$) + Switch Pro Controller (70$) = 470$.
And the worse part? EA probably demanded to have screen time to support the system, they did the same on the Wii U 's launch
@Luna_110 Haha, yeah that was hilarious. Watch them release Fifa 17 full priced shortly before Fifa 18 launches on other consoles. Or a 70$ Mass Effect 3 port when Andromeda launches. EA is not here to stay and we all know it.
@MajinSoul That is not a fair calculation. You don't need a Pro Controller since there is a a ProCon. And you don't need a 256 SD-Card.
You can always add some thing to the price. Maybe Zelda (70$) and another game (70$).
Now the Switch has a price of 610$. Crazy!...
@Chandlero Well, the controller is debatable, although looking at all the complaints about the WiiU not including a Pro controller the same could be said about the switch. The SD card on the other hand is pretty much a must. 32gb is just such a petty amount of space.
I just assumed his calculation, if someone asked me "How much does the Switch cost?" I'd tell him 300$ because that is the asking price after all.
I'm not terribly impressed with the launch day games, but launch window looks really good. BotW, Mario Odyssey, and Splatoon 2 are must buys. I haven't seen a lineup this good from Nintendo in several years.
To buy the Switch and everything I need to go with it at launch (Pro-controller, min 200gb sd card, and 1 game), it's gonna cost me $550. That's not cheap. Last month I bought an XBoxOne with a controller and 5 packed-in games for $250 new; the Switch cost more than twice that. This console is going to be tough to sell at this price with no games. Pro controller is overpriced, and should be included with the system, along with a game.
After all this waiting and rumour mongering, the Nintendo Switch is very much a mixed bag. While the lack of region locking, upcoming games, potential for 3rd party support and ability to play local multiplayer is certainly welcome, 32gb initial storage, paid subscription service, high initial price and extortionate peripherals will make this a wait and see for me.
And for those that defend the paid online subscription services, or say that Microsoft and Sony have them as well, I don't like them on those platforms either. They offer no value as they still result in inconsistent services (especially on Sony platforms). What makes you think Nintendo will be any better? PC is the only platform that will not have paid online and will most likely have the best online services overall!
Hopefully they announce more launch games later on today and iron out some of these issues sooner rather than later, but I'll not hold my breath. In all honesty, I think the console hardware of this generation have all been pretty mediocre, and if the game droughts start on Switch just as with the Wii U, I'll just be gaming on PC from now on. I really want to like the Switch but I'm not convinced at the moment.
@MajinSoul: I don't see the need of a SD-card when the retail games are on card. The 32 GB of the WiiU was enough for all my digital purchases. Maybe someone needs a bigger SD card but surely not at launch.
@SuperWeird: You can't compare a new console's price with a console that is years old. It is still the launch price. But I agree that Nintendo should bundle the console with a game.
So you have to paid to play online but there online service is a app, not only that you get a Nes or a Snes game to play for get this "one month". Thats a poor service towards the other two online service depending on price., just this alone puts me off.
Very dissapointing.Same price as Wii U at launch, seemingly Less games, terrible storage (cost of hdd compared to flash).Paying for online on a handheld pretty much kills it.Hoping for a reversal if i'm completely honest.More games must be in the pipeline? easy to develope for? not convincing considering some devs are just getting started.Very poor prospects
Lucky people, I'm at work and looking at Nintendolife. LOL
The new Mario game looks amazing.
I just cannot play another game in 720p ever again, Xenoblade Chronicles X was bitter sweet on the WiiU and Breath of the Wild will be in 720p on the WiiU, so I'll be getting that on the Switch instead.
What I like about the Switch is no region lock, that is brilliant news and I'm very glad for that.
I'm personally gonna wait for a price drop, £280 is just too expensive. I'm hoping for some Pokemon and Animal Crossing announcements too. I have a huge backlog of 3DS and PS4 games to play this year so will probably not get the Switch until 2018.
Disappointed. I was really optimistic beforehand but that hasn't lasted.
What I was looking for was a Nintendo that has learned it's lessons. I wanted to see a console priced to hit the ground running, with an emphasis on games and a strong launch line-up that made it clear where the focus is and what Nintendo have been doing for the last couple of years.
What I got was a console with a high price, expensive accessories and little on-board storage. The emphasis on the minigame collection and Arms made it look like they're trying to recreate the Wii, but with a machine priced way too high for that market. The launch line up is dreadful. There was no mention of VC, online will now be a paid service that had better be cheap given what they're offering. At least it's multi region.
The optimist in me says there's more to be announced over the next couple of days. In reality, as it stands, I'll be cancelling my pre-order and letting the optimist in me hope that E3 will be great and there will be a price drop before Autumn.
I showed a friend bits of "ARMS" telling him it was a VR title and guess what he loved it. When he found out it wasn't VR suddenly its "just Wii Sports"
1, 2 Switch and Arms, screw it.
Now SMTV, Fire Emblem Warriors, Zelda, Mario, Splatoon 2, Xeno2 and more looks amazing, but for the launch only Zelda as a killer app is a bit underwhelming. But still day 1 for me.
Hes using Australian dollars. That's why he put the AU.
The price is too damn high and Europe is getting screwed over. Accessories seems to be overpriced too.
Online is paid and I don't do that sort of thing.
Internal storage is still the same 32 GB of Wii U. It was pitiful back then, I don't have a word to describe it now.
I want to support you Nintendo but you always make it so damn hard.
If the online service is about £1 a month it'll look OK next to Nintendo's competition.
The best news is that Zelda is on the Wii U on March 3rd...the little console that could comes through again.
Huge disappointment tbh. BOTW is a game that was intended for WiiU and MK8 deluxe finally shows the battle mode that should be available for WiiU a long long time ago, they were holding that battle mode back for sure. But it's the same game. A slap in the face for everyone who bought MKWiiU. This move painfully shows Nintendo's strategy. And that strategy sucks imho. The WiiU isn't a bad system after all. It was just marketed very very poor. And they might have thought what to do gain the attention of gamers in general. So they must have paid a lot of money to convince Bethesda to port Skyrim to the Switch, but this is also an old game which i own already on two other systems. All the other stuff that was shown was just mediocre while those launch games are looking really bad. 1 2 Switch is a laugh, really. WTH a game where you don't have to watch any screen?! I tell you, you actually can go out and play a pirate game in the woods. Somany games you can play without a screen or even without joy-cons. I still love my WiiU and i see the same thing happening with Switch, all over again. I gave Nintendo my money without a thought when WiiU came out. But now i see this development i'm holding back. BOTW will be playing fine on WiiU and with all my other consoles i won't have a boring moment in my spare time. So maybe along the line Nintendo can convince me to buy a Switch, but for now, huge letdown. I'm gaming on Nintendo systems since the eighties and think Nintendo still has the power but should really make other choices. What i just saw makes no sense at all. my 2 cents, ok make it 5.
Guys it's really not that expensive...you'll happily spend over 500 for a brand new iPhone. It's being released as a new piece of tech so I think it's fair
For me in europe the switch feels like its 150 euro over priced. €330 for the basic system without a game is too steep for me. Needs to be about €230 with a game.
@RedeadLink so Xenoblade 2, Splatoon 2 and Mario Odyssey are poor games?
Oh, thank you so much.
I'm so relieved ...
Okay, time for saving my money for Nintendo Switch.
Motion controls and gritty urban Mario have left me slightly less excited about the Switch than I was. Plus that price has me worried (and what the hell is up with the Pro controller price), and was expecting more big 3rd party titles, but overall not too bad I guess.
@AhabSpampurse totally agree- also no mention about what will happen to all our previously purchased VC games or if there will be a unified account system. For me they've gotten the price wrong too- in the UK it's going to cost way over 300 pounds just for the console and one game. Buyers who are buying for kids etc will look at that then look at the price of a PS4 or xbox1 with several games and opt for one of those. What made the Wii such a success was its price point- it was an impulse buy. I initially pre ordered a switch but think I'll be cancelling and play Zelda on the Wii u instead
It was a good presentation not a great presentation. My biggest disappointment was that Square Enix kinda dropped the ball with their handling of Dragon Quest again... Dragon Quest XI and Dragon Quest Heroes I & II for Nintendo Switch are painfully still not officially confirmed for a Western release. Not having any Nintendo Switch footage or a trailer of Dragon Quest XI at the event and actually showing JP footage afterward of the DQH bundle with this brilliant trailer is another missed opportunity.
@Coproll I've been a Nintendo gamer that long too but I totally agree with you sir. I honestly feel totally let down. I can pick up my vita and go to a download queue of games going back 7 years. I can't play all them on the vita but the games are there- they are mine. I can't stand nintendos VC Eshop policies and if we have to rebuy our games yet again that will be me finally done with the big N. sad times
@OorWullie yeah me too.. I have a huge backlog of games i need to play. Launching with one masterpiece is fine with me. What did disappoint me was the price at 1st but its not a biggie. As long as we have a great 2017 overall I'm good. Today should be interesting and E3 will no doubt bring more to the table.
I thought the presentation was pretty bad if I'm honest. Add to that the details that trickled out afterwards and my hype for the switch was completely torpedoed. I'm sure I will get one sometime later this year but in no way did they excite me enough to pre-order. I was so hyped before so it was very disappointing for me personally
My biggest problem is if digital games will transfer over. Other than that, I am in all the way.
Sill too many questions unanswered.. I will preorder one today but might just change my mind by the time march 3rd comes along...
Unfortunately like everyone else on this site, I'm really didn't give a hoot about "1,2,3 switch"... at the end of the day Nintendo is just thinking about their domestic market IMO.
Well my trusted online retailer dropping bill from private people (don't have the money right now) and Shibata saying "relese in MAJOR European countries" means Europe will lack of stock.
But the hype is real. Will have to cope with WiiU version of BOTF first until I get €€€ needed. Also time to clear that WiiU backlog.
Also disappointed with lack of DQ Western releases D:
I think it looks awesome! The only issue I have is it's a bit pricey. Besides that my hype for Zelda has gone up by a trillion!
My biggest disappointment was Mario comes after a year. No pre order for me.
I gotta say, I really loved it. In fact, the only things I didn't like were 1, 2, Switch and the paid online, but I can get over those. Arms looks pretty cool, Xenoblade is really great, FIFA is something I can shut up my friends with, Mario Odyssey looks incredible, Splatoon 2 looks nice, but they should've called it Spla2n, and Breath of the Wild is just....breathtaking (pun intended)
The Switch looks incredible, I'll probably preorder it, and I'm definitely getting it Day 1.
I knew NIS would be on board, but Disgaea 5?! That is my biggest source of hype right there. It was shown very briefly in the video mashed in with other games. Then it showed up on the NIS America store. Spring 2017!
@Dizzard At least on the PS4 you don't get to keep the games. They are rented to you as long as you pay the membership.
Hopefully Nintendo will let you keep the game forever.
All in all, I was rather dissapointed. Launch games were really scarce, so I hope that the TReehouse presentation changes that and announce at least 20-30 games coming at launch.
Also, something really worrying is that besides FIFA and Sonic Mania I don't see any contemporary game coming to the Switch: no Destiny, no Red Dead Redemption 2, GTA, Black Ops, Overwatch, etc. These are the kind of games that everyone around 15 is interested in.
Also, I think that the price is a tad above expectations. 250 would have been so nice. Also, 70 bucks for pro controller!!! That is too much when the dualshock 4 usually retails for 45-50 and we know that Nintendo keeps their prices at MSR for far too long (Go to Amazon and try to buy a WiiU pro controller: still at 50 bucks or 48 or 49).
If the Switch can make calls, send texts, play music, use every video streaming and social media service under the sun, fit in a jeans pocket, help the user navigate, take photos and video, carries over purchases from previous machines, and is available on monthly contracts that comparison would work.
You can get non-Apple phones that do all that for less than the price of a standalone Switch
I put a pre-order down but at this point I'm likely to cancel. It will cost £350 to play BOTW, or I can pick up the Wii U version for £40. Then really just
There is very little incentive for a Wii U owner here. Hoping the next few weeks will change that. The £270 isn't a ridiculous price point, but all the extras and current listing of £80 for a standard game makes it ridiculous. No sign of what happens to all previous digital games, VC in particular.
I can also appreciate paying for online, but again, there has to be real value in it. I'm sure there will be more info there to come.
Before everyone complains about subscription online, let's see what it means. If this includes unlimited VC and free games every month, just watch everyone change their tune.
And there may be a cutdown free online as well.
Give them a chance, both Sony and Microsoft do it.
They really nailed it with the gameplay footage and trailers I think, enough so to "win E3". Nice lack of "cinematic" trailers. I would have liked to see more details of the bundled software and features, I think I left with more questions than answers.
I thought the presentation was awful - translating, pacing, launch games, pricing, lack of some of the Wow we expected like Pikmin 4 and BG&E2
But the content was there when I thought about it afterward - Zelda, Mario, Spla2oon, DQH1&2, XC2, Skyrim, FIFAish
They did a poor job leaving us Wii U owners hanging at the end wondering about Zelda
So, $250 Black Friday for a Mario bundle and maybe. I just paid $218 for a PS4 Slim with Uncharted 4.
@darthstuey and i didn't even mention VC, because i own all Nintendo system and a lot of games. So i'm not really bothering VC. But i can see how frustrating it is. And i have also a PSN account and see how simple things can be. Just release a great game and sell consoles, and make another great game, and another. Do not hold back a game everyone is waiting for and bought your console for. Like with WiiU. That strategy sucks, real hard. We could have Zelda WiiU a year ago, and we should now look at Zelda Switch. It's the WiiU story all over again. And don't forget how many developers were on the train when WiiU was shown. And don't forget how many developers holded back their wares because of poor sales. Same thing could happen again. Likely when people buy the first wave and show their disappointment with the system. It is crystal clear, Nintendo i looking way too hard for socalled new ways of gaming. We know that now. Why isn't there anyone at Nintendo who says, he guys, let do something different, let's make a great console, with super graphics great games line up and backwards compatible, maybe even in a download form, hence the unique nintendo codes. It is all there but they choose to create something nobody really needs. A few good titles aren't gonna save the damn thing. Not for me anyway. I'm getting a switch, but not now. I want Nintendo to show me first there worth my hard earned cash. I pre-ordered BOTWWiiU.
The stream/presentation itself was rather good.
The Nintendo Switch Presentation was a bit underwhelming; the system feels like the Wii U ALL OVER AGAIN!
Presentation was lacking tbh, and $399CDN is waaayyyy too much considering Zelda is the only launch title. Those two party games need to be bundled with the console but I got the impression they're going to be sold separately, so RIP those two games (I doubt anybody's going to buy them on their own at full price - whether that's $49 OR $79.)
The Zelda and Mario trailers were all I needed.
Mark my words. Today: Switch will be a huge disappointment to everyone. Below 25 million units will sell worldwide. Last Nintendo console. Ever.
I enjoyed the presentation and the games look cool. However, I didn't see enough "must-haves" for me to warrant a purchase. If nothing else, it made me want to get some games for Wii U.
I didn't think it was that amazing the things I liked the look of the most was Mario which looks incredible and the new Square Enix RPG Otopath Traveler which looks very intriguing totally my sort of thing.
Im sure theres more to come but launch titles with the exception of Zelda look weak. that boxing game looks pretty boring.
Im more interested in the E-Shop Side which will be very important to me as I buy most of my 3ds games on the e-shop Im also keen to learn what sort of prices VC titles will be and if theres gonna be stuff like gamecube.
Its still early days but so far Im a little underwhelmed and wish Nintendo had priced this lower to make it seem unmissable. I personally think that this is going to go the same way as the Wii-U. I hope im wrong but I just don't see the WOW factor so far.
@gigoloaunt7 that's Nintendo all over they have no idea what other companies are doing or what their customers want. Either that or they just don't care. I think I'm done with Nintendo present and future and will focus on my machines of the last. Been picking up amazing GameCube games at really low prices so I guess that's what I'll be playing this year. Oh and I keep dipping into ps now on my vita and pstv for 26 pounds I've done beyond two souls, shadow of the colossus and uncharted 2 and 3. Nintendo don't offer anything like that but they could.
Bad is what I say other than Zelda which was awesome
The strengths and weaknesses of the presentation will quickly be forgotten. There is a worrying lack of launch titles at present, hopefully they will rectify this. £279 is borderline ridiculous. Pricing it above XBOX and PS4, with minimal games is going to be a major issue unless the marketing and promotion is exceptionally good (which Nintendo has historically not been good at).
@Coproll I also own all their systems and this year I'll focus on buying cheap GameCube games off eBay rather than buying a switch
@maceng yes but your ps plus games never go away
I cancelled my ps plus when I sold my ps 3 and a year later I bought my son a ps 4 and signed back in and they were all there to download if I wanted to.
The mario game reminds me of Sonic Adventure for Dreamcast, but looks really fun. Other than that, I didn't find it amazing, but they could show more of the launch games today, which I hope they have more than just a few. For me, Mario and Zelda are enough to purchase it...but there is no way that I will pay for their online service when they've been horrible with online in the past...no way...it's bad enough paying for Sony and Microsoft's, why waste more money on another console...I haven't even purchased Sony's for over a few years. It's a good way to earn more money, but to me (and this is going towards all three companies)...it's horrible to MAKE someone pay if you want to play against others...especially when most of the games recently have been taking away playing against people in the same room.
People complaining about the paid Online Service. This was inevitable when they start adding more and more functionality to it.
Running a secure global Online Network for millions of consoles is insanely expensive! They had to make it paid subscription sooner or later.
@darthstuey spot on!
im revisiting mario galaxy2 on wii,just recently bought luigis mansion and a wavebird.
im sat in disbelief really about everything over it and with the online etc...cant imagine getting mario oddysee free on the monthly subs or any other aaa game probably be nes donkey kong.ha.
psn is king in this respect.
Was a 100% launch day purchase before the presentation, I already had my preorder sorted weeks ago. Now ? hmmmm!! Only one game for me at launch, Zelda. £38 preordered on Amazon months ago or Switch £279.99 plus Zelda £59.99 and nothing else to play for months. I was still going to double dip on Mariokart 8 deluxe but not at £50 when I have it and the dlc on Wiiu. I was thinking of picking up Skyrim too, held off on getting the remastered version on xbone for this very reason.
Personally it looks like I may wait till nearer Xmas when the new Mario is out and I don't think i'll be on my own, I've seen many people cancelling or not bothering to pick it up day 1 now which will affect 3rd parties jumping on board. This thing needed to sell like hotcakes day one and have a positive buzz and prior to the presentation it looked like it would. Heroes to zeroes in a hour due to a poor presentation, high price without a game, weak launch lie up and very expensive games and peripherals. How do they do it?
Hopefully some more announcement over the weekend or next few weeks will stop me from cancelling my preorder.
@cra1g0s I'm with you I've just cancelled my pre order I think this is mental- they seem to have no idea at all. I don't understand it- I really don't.
Zelda Wiiu £38 sorry!
Very disappointed with the presentation. Online, launch titles, battery life, and insane Pro Controller price were all huge letdowns.
Might be waiting until Christmas depending on what the Treehouse shows.
@darthstuey yeah i still buy a lot for the old systems. But tbh i'm playing the heck out of my PS4 now. Well, my daughter is, she's fully into Overwatch, thanks to Splatoon btw, that game introduced her to the basics of online shooters. And it still is a fun game, as is Overwatch of course.
@FierceRagnar Skyrim is an old game, recently remastered (the bug are still there) but that audience isn't gonna buy a Switch because of Skyrim, i won't believe that. It's nice to have on the go but i truly think it isn't a system seller.
@darthstuey I was just going to say, after watching the latest NL video, there are some positives and I nearly pre-ordered from Amazon purely on the basis of 'maybe they will re-adjust the pricing', but that isn't going to happen between now and launch day.
It boils down to having to pay £340+ to play Zelda on Switch, when I have a perfectly good platform to play it on now, so I'm leaving it for now. Let's see what happens closer to Christmas and any bundles on offer, but I also think Mario Odyssey could be delayed, it's certainly possible so let's take a look this time next year and we'll see where we're at.
Purely just 'passable'. And most definitely not passable for me. Mario Odyssey was a step in the right direction in that they returned to sandbox, but what I am seeing is still just too "cute." I don't know how else to say it. Too colourful, too happy.
For instance, Bowser in a pimp suit? ...That kind of thing. It is kid fare as far as I am concerned. Mario Odyssey was the most impressive thing and still, just didn't deliver. Will unflinchingly be sticking to my Xbox.
Pretty excited, honestly. I think there is a lot more coming out this year that hasn't been announced yet. Nintendo will deliver on this one. But even if I just pick up one or two games on launch, I'm perfectly content.
I went from being so hyped before the presentation (to the point that I was sad thinking I may not be able to get a pre-order for Day 1 purchase), to just being "meh", and not caring much about pre-ordering anymore.
I'm not angry or anything like many people on the internet. I'm just apathetic about the whole thing. And that's a shame really. I'm sure a lot of Nintendo fans also changed their mind about pre-ordering a unit too now. This is not the fan reactions Nintendo wish to have so close to release quite frankly. We should still be hyped as heck and wish to buy it Day 1 more than anything. But that's not it anymore unfortunately. Maybe later down the road.
Has a slight smack of the Wii launch. New Zelda for the core players (this time even stronger wider pull though) and clever quirky party games to cast a wider net. The clever quirky stuff is not as crazy new and instantly full of obvious potential like Wii Sports, but it seems much easier to get people to try: No TV or wires needed. Just plop it down and start laughing at antics with 1, 2, Switch!
Should have been a pack-in for early adopters at least, in my opinion.
Dreadful price. At £280 it is an incredibly difficult sell, particularly when a PS4 bundled with a game can be bought for £200. I don't think this will have the sort of broad appeal Nintendo are hoping, not until it is substantially cheaper.
What disappointed me most about the reveal was the games, or lack thereof. Developers appeared on stage (or video) to say they are supporting the system but didn't show what they are making. Mario looks potentially amazing but is not coming out until Christmas and Zelda will be on the Wii U for considerably cheaper. Xenoblade 2 is an exciting prospect, regardless of the foul character designs. Aside from these three games, at the moment it feels like there were a lot of smoke and mirrors. I come away knowing little more than I did after the teaser trailer last year. The system is out in 7 weeks and they should have shown more to really ramp up the excitement. I have seen comments saying things like "closer to launch" but we are already a hair's breadth away from release. What about details of the UI? Their online features and account system? The virtual console? We have a lot of unanswered questions.
The system itself has definite potential and I will get one when it is cheaper and Mario has launched, but right now I do not think Nintendo showed it off in the best light.
@jobunker Too colorful, too happy? This is Super Mario. The clouds have smiled since he could punch blocks. He's not going to go angsty unless Nintendo sells him. Meanwhile Zelda...
I finally just realized that the Switch is basically a 50/50 mutant child of Wii and WiiU's designs. I guess my hope that it was actually going to be something new blinded me to that until now.
Thought the presentation itself was mixed.
The live english translation really flattened the personality of the presenters and there was a lot of talk and as much as I'm excited about 1, 2, Switch! the video went way too long at the start. However, I was really happy at the return of motion and the HD rumble myself and most importantly, it had great looking Mario in the middle — giving what many have been clamoring for — and ended with the bang it needed. I started not very hyped and ended by scouring for preorders and piling stuff into the cart.
It helps that the USD price is good at $300.
@KrakenSoup I would get it on Wii U but I personally can't handle the thought of playing BotW at [email protected] 30-20fps. If the Switch can handle the game at 1080p with a stable 30fps then that is the experience I want.
@Li_Bae AND don't forget 3DS. Since it is taking the strengths and dropping many of the weaknesses of all of those consoles so my viewpoint is that it's potentially the greatest of them all.
strengths taken: Local portable multiplayer with one device. Motion Plus from the start. Pointing without sensor bar (I think). Larger grip and screen and more.
middle ground: In the middle we have second screen via smart phones. So some advantages like typing, and voice chat, but not quite as interactive as Wii U.
weaknesses dropped: Dropping tiny grips, grainy screen, too many controller extras to make all types of games work, inaccurate motion, lack of big Mario near launch, and also dropping division between platforms (maybe not paying off for another year), and more.
@jaymacx I don't know yet, but personally none of those games interest me.
Average, with very little info on the actual launch.
Price is a bit high, not for me personally, but perhaps for the market at large. Disappointed that they'll charge for online, but if it means performance on par with XBox Live, then I guess I'm OK with it. Wanted to hear some Virtual Console news, but I understand that a big event like this is not the time to talk about old games.
And that's about it for my complaints. The third-party support is strong. New Mario, Splatoon 2, Xenoblade 2, and of course Zelda look incredible. ARMS looks like it could deliver where Wii Sports boxing was such a let-down (despite the questionable character design). Speaking of which, let's not forget that Nintendo showed off TWO new IPs. The system itself looks great, and there's no region-locking.
Presentation was a mixed bag. Personal highlights for me being Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade 2 in the middle and Zelda at the end. Still getting Zelda on Wii U as I've had it preordered for years. They gave very little information on their launch, though more may come out in the coming days.
$299.99 is in USD. In Canada the Switch is most likely going to be like $399.99. No way. Can't do it. No preorder for me, waiting for a price drop already lol.
Loved the system. A little underwhelmed, expected more "wooow" games. Mario, Zelda and Splatoon are out of this world!
Mario, Zelda and Xenoblade were excellent and exciting. I didn't care about anything else and I'm worried they've done exactly the same thing they did with the Wii U. Made it really unclear what and who it's actually for.
They should've ditched all the motion control stuff (allowing a cheaper console) and just focused on the games and the fact that you can play them all portably. Twice as many launch games, including from various third parties, and no motion controlled stuff, would've put them in a better position imo.
First: Never do another live presentation like this for your products again, Nintendo. Please? I forgot how awful your E3 press conferences were until last night. Just.... Don't.
Second: it is a VERY good thing the Switch sneak peak mentioned pretty much none of that stuff about the controllers and such. The Switch teaser was simple, sleek, and elegant. Now, to many audiences, the Switch will look like another sad gimmick console with a bunch of dumb party games and weird controllers. It was convoluted and the games designed with that functionality in mind look pretty blah. The sections on 1-2-Switch and Arms both went on forever. I had Nintendoland at E3 flashbacks, in a bad way; I can't imagine those games selling a single person on the console on their own. If 1-2-Switch isn't bundled in, I'll be stunned; who would drop $60 on that?
Third: how did we not get a confirmed launch lineup? That should have been in there somewhere, no? I'd like to think that with under 2 months to go that should have been easy to have set in stone.
Fourth: They must be saving big reveals for E3, because compared to the rumors, that was extremely tame. I wasn't shocked by anything at all, really. With titles like XC2 and FE: Warriors that don't appear to be coming soon getting mentioned, you'd think they'd have more games to tease. Again, I pray they're waiting for E3. I think they needed something like their announcement of Bayonetta 2 for the Wii U to get people hyped up about a big, major third party exclusive. I expected there to be a niche third party exclusive that'd get the media and core gamers swooning, like a teaser for Beyond Good and Evil 2 (as has been heavily rumored) but nope. Nothing. Just what we already knew, stuff coming much later, and party games. Ugh.
Fifth: pretty clear they delayed Zelda for the launch of this system since there's clearly nothing close to a system seller ready otherwise, no? With the other biggest guns being Arms and 1-2-Switch and a port of Skyrim (maybe at launch...?) I can't fathom anyone but hardcore fans wanting it and simply hoping for something good to come along, like the Wii U and 3DS launches before it. The system's killer app at launch is Zelda. Which, hey, is enough for me, but I was expecting at least one major surprise. Not so much, though.
Overall I'm pretty meh about the whole presentation and all (probably shouldn't have wasted my time staying up to watch it, honestly), but I am looking forward to the system itself and playing the new Zelda sooner than I expected. Hope to get a system at launch!
I was hugely disappointed - but who knows. Maybe those big hitters are coming.
I thought it was Ok, I don't know what to make of Switch 1-2 or ARMS though. Sadly they didn't mention VC I am hoping it will be confirmed either way before March 3. In the mean time I am hoping for a Nintendo Direct...
I have been saying this all along, but the presentation only hammered it home for me. Switch is going to be a huge success in Japan right from day one. It is obvious that Japanese developers have jumped on board in a big way. The rest of the world will take longer to get excited about Switch.
I predict that the launch in the west will start off well and then taper off quickly due to the high price and lack of exciting games in the launch period. However, I am also sure that Nintendo is prepared for that. They will have plans to ensure that things pick up again in the holiday period. My money is on a Switch Pokémon game to launch alongside Mario Odyssey and give the Switch a huge world wide shot in the arm this holiday.
@aaronsullivan angsty is not at all the right word choice.
Immaculate. Innovative. Crisp. These are all things that described Super Mario 64 to a tee. They do not describe Mario games anymore.
Mario won't be punching blocks at all after this gen.
NO NEW GAMES.
PS: Metroid, Fxero... Retro Studios Good feel?
As a fan of nintendo for 24+ years, I didn't expect anything different from what I saw. It's almost like they have become so predictable in the way that they run things at that place that I knew nothing amazing was going to happen during the livestream. I was honestly hoping for change but it looks like they are going down the same path they took with the Wii U, and we all know how that turned out... my biggest question is, how do you not have a stellar line-up of games when you haven't released anything major In a while?
32gb?! Don't even get me started. Knowing how nintendo works, they will probably limit memory cards to 128gb- and even that may be too high.
Fire emblem and Mario are nice but let's keep it real. How long did Fire Emblem on WiiU take to be realeased from when it was announced? It could be years! Mario Holiday 2017 is bull, if you know how Nintendo works it will end up being more Summer 2018 at the earliest, but mostly likely it will be late 2018.
I am very disappointed. I'm willing to bet that virtual console is still in development and we won't see it until late 2017 at the earliest. To me this whole switch Launch is like Deju all over again. I'm calling it now- this will be another flop. I don't understand why they can't learn from their mistakes.
I preordered mine with the full understanding that once I beat Zelda, this system will collect dust for a very long time before I pick it up to play something worth my time. How sad is that?
I think this presentation showed that Nintendo is out of touch with modern gaming. I truly believe that the Switch will perform worse than the Wii U.
It feels so rushed as a console. With an awful launch lineup.
@KidRad Though I'm waiting till Splatoon 2 to get the switch, I wanna get Arms as soon as I can. Arms has fun characters and it's boxing overwatch. Online multiplayer or bust for that one.
@Al_Godoy I agree. I don't understand why there's people on here that can't seem to get a grasp of reality. I'm sure you are fan like myself and have been following Nintendo for years. We have seen this happen time and time again. It's clear that they are out of touch and they don't understand today's market. I'm calling it now- dead on arrival. Calling this awful would be an understanment in my opinion.
I'm not paying to play online multiplayer games. Outside of Mario, it was pretty forgettable and underwhelming. Dare I saw it was embarrassing ??? (i've used that word often to describe the Wii U)
such a let down...
I'm not feeling it at all. Like I said, this just feels like a repeat of the Wii U... a cute gimmick that everyone can live without, plenty of game droughts, no third party support, etc.
I'll get one eventually for Mario (And Zelda, although it's not as big of a deal for me as some people) but this wasn't good. The paid online is extra salt in the wound, as I'd only likely use it for Splatoon (Lack of third party devs can make or break a subscription like this).
I can't go through with the "muh positivity" vibe some people have here, I'm really, really disappointed.
I felt like the lack of announced launch games might have been a mistake, but Super Mario Odyssey blew me away like I never dreamed. I won't get a Switch day 1, but by Autumn or so, definitely.
i just hope that the sales are so bad that nintendo drops the price in 12months down to 199 at least
That Mario trailer.... that Zelda trailer... everything else was just gravy
@PotatoTheGreat I don't get it either. I don't understand how anyone see anything positive from all this. The real fans see it how it is, and it definitely looks grim. Nothing to be excited about here. As I fan I'm going in with the full understating that I am likely going have another WiiU on my hands.
@electrolite77 A game console has to be cheaper because it is a limited function unlike a good PC which is a lot more expensive and it is. If people can afford a phone they can afford this, different uses yes but it's all dependent on what the buyer will use their money on
I thought the presentation was terrible. I'm still excited for the system, at least the potential of the system. I'll wait for bundles and/or Black Friday deals at the earliest. If the paid online service has a PS+ / Games With Gold component, I'll probably jump in then. If it's just for online multiplayer, I'll keep waiting for a good deal.
I am also underwhelmed by what I have seen of the Switch software line-up so far. However, I do not think this will be Wii U part 2 either. For starters, Switch is the future for Nintendo. If it starts off slow they will do what they have to in order to make it a success. There is no 3DS to fall back on this time. If Switch fails then Nintendo fails and thus they will not let it fail.
Secondly, the games will come. The PS4 and Xbox One launch line-ups sucked as well. The days of awesome launch line-ups like the SNES are long gone and they are never coming back. The reality of HD game development is that games take 2-3 years to develop now. Most studios probably only received final development hardware in the past 6 months and it will take some time before they are ready to show what they have in development. By this time next year the software landscape on Switch will be very different. The stop-gap games will be ramping down and the exciting new games will be ramping up.
In the modern gaming era new platforms are going to take time to ramp up. This is why console makers are thinking about how to iterate the current hardware rather than start from scratch every six years. Expect Switch to have a ten year life with a "New 3DS" style update mid-life to allow for better games. That is my prediction. When your horizon is ten years you can afford to start slowly. That is what Nintendo are doing.
@RatKing64 I'm sorry but I've heard this time and time again. I'll believe it when I see it. Nintendo has done nothing in the last 5 years that makes me one bit confident in what they do anymore. At this point if you are like me, you are buying a switch with full understanding that you may not have great on-going 3rd party support and that you may be without games new games to play for a long period of time.
Disappointing. But it might turn out as something truly wonderful once games start to arrive, a year or two from now. I'll just wait. Doesn't worth getting on release day, that's it, unless you don't have anywhere else to play Zelda BoTW and really care about 1,2, Switch.
The price has put me off. Mario Odyssey looks amazing, but everything else feels like reheated leftovers. I'm sure they'll be amazing games, but I've got my Wii U for BotW, Mario Kart 8 and Street Fighter 2, I don't fancy paying for online multiplayer on Splatoon 2 when the first game had it for free, and have no interest in Skyrim or FIFA.
ARMS could be great, but I'd need to play it first
Iwata was missed.
That was one of the worst, most mind numbing, plodding, lack-luster, corporate dreck laden, poorly conceived events I have ever endured. Sooooo freakin' boring and unfunny and unfun. Stiff, poorly executed and a terrible start for their marketing efforts. The interpreter was PAINFUL to listen to. He found a way to make the already dry and awkward presenters even less watchable.
The system? Pretty cool. The big kick off? Just horrible. Absolutely painful and uncomfortable to watch... when there was something worth watching. And the audience and their complete lack of reaction or interaction. Holy crap. Chairs full of corpses.
They need to turn this around immediately. Between the freakin' cost of the system, the cost of the joy-cons, screwing everyone with a paid online service that has to go up against the big two online console services that give away games as part of their subscription and no Mario at launch (even though Nintendo said repeatedly they had learned their lesson), the last thing they needed was this PTA meeting of a kick off. Snooooooooze.
If they say "switch" and snap their fingers one more time....Seriously, though the way it was presented was a little dry, I didn't care because of how excited I was for the info we got. So happy with it all. Everything. Of course I didn't expect them to mention Virtual Console or all the ports that were rumored. They wanted to deter us from the rumors, and they succeeded. I for one, am fully invested in all of this, and will be pre-ordering as soon as I can.
The price is Canada — $399! — is ridiculous, especially because it doesn't come with a game. So, a system and game is going to cost me $480? And requires online subscription? And probably requires a large SD card because of minuscule included storage? Nope. I was considering a pre-order, but the price (and lack of exciting launch games) has convinced me to wait for a year or two until the price comes down and there is a better library of games. I'll get BoTW on my Wii U for now.
(For CAD price references, PS4 with bundled game(s) is regularly on sale these days for $329, while the Xbone + bundled game(s) goes for $299. These were generally the prices between Black Friday and Boxing week and these sale prices seem to happen often).
I was really hoping for a $249 USD / $299 CAD launch price, with one game included.
@MarcelRguez yeah but don't you see it as a missed opportunity?
I mean, it was detailing the launch, for a system that comes out in about 6 weeks... seeing only 2 defined launch games was super disappointing, and a huge fail at communicating a reason to pre-order. I'll get one, but probably not until the Mario game comes out. Also can we talk about the price of controllers.... absurd.
Wait and see approach for me going to pickup an Xbox one soon too.
@RoboBubble even if it was $249 USD, it wouldn't have been less than $329 CAD so not sure where you would think it would get close to $299 CAD, when I heard that it would be $299 US i was okay $379 CAD (Still high) but nope $399 and thats past my limit, which is sad because I do want one, but not pre-ordering. I was really expecting 1,2 SWITCH to be part of the console bundle, and agree some game should be bundled at that price.
Besides the fact that they are bending Canadians over without dinner and a movie first it was better than I expected actually. 400 dollars Canadian but we are getting screwed over by Sony and Microsoft to the same extent as well.
I'm fine with the paid online as long as it has similar features to PSN, the good ones anyway. If it's no better than the current Nintendo online it will be an outrage though.
Oh, I am totally puzzled as to why they didn't focus on the fact it uses carts, one of the biggest selling ponts for me. I might actually go back to mostly physical purchases.
I'm in no rush to get this console at all. I was sort of on the fence before, but at the $400 price point, I just don't think so. Even a PS4 Pro 1TB with no games is $500. That's what I would have to pay for a Switch and a big micro SD card. I could get a PS4 with a few games for less than the price of a Switch.
Mind you, knowing Nintendo, I won't even be able to find a pre-order or even get a console when it arrives anyway. I've got better things to do with my time then bust my hump looking for a console that seems terribly priced in this market. I think I can do just fine with the WiiU or spend my discretionary income on a Sony product (and I cannot stand Sony products).
Not blown away but a lot more hyped than I was for the Wii U just before launch
@RoomB31 Yes, $249 USD is closer to $329 CAD — I was just hoping they might go $299 CAD from a marketing perspective, to hit that under $300 sweet spot.
And don't get me wrong, $299 USD is a decent price for the thing in the USA. But I have real concerns that the Switch will struggle in Canada at $399 CAD without a game. Wii U struggled launching at $349 with Nintendo Land (back when CAD and USD prices were nearly equal and the launch price was same price in both Canada and USA).
I realize that currency fluctuations are not Nintendo's fault but the reality for the Canadian consumer is that the price of gaming has greatly increased, making it less affordable for some.
I don't see this winning anybody over except Nintendo fans. Again, there aren't enough games. Launch so far isn't for anybody but Zelda fans. The price is a mistake. Nintendo should take a loss if they have to. Peripherals cost way too much. I'm buying it for the few AAA first party games. But I can't recommend the console to anybody who doesn't love Nintendo.
Unless Breath Of The Wild runs poorly on the Wii U I'll hold off my Switch purchase until Mario and Splatoon are near release. Plus those very high game prices will have dropped a bit by the summer. And I can only assume the price of the Pro Controller is mistake - £64.99? Really??
Presentation was a bit dry but what matters is the console and games, and they delivered. Really excited for Mario & S2. Splatoon is by far my favourite game in the last ten years, and that includes Nintendo and PS games.
With xbox and PS4, people pay for the latest tech. The switch is less powerful than consoles made years ago. We are paying for portability? That's limited to 2.5 hours.
Most will use it on their phone. You may as well compare the switch with garden furniture or a holiday.
to quote @teamshortcut "Well, you know, they kind of unlocked the door and left it a little ajar." and to add to that quote let people late comers scattered everywhere without rounding out and doing a head count. That what the whole experience is yesterday and today is.
I thought the presentation was good but could have been a lot better. For A nintendo presentation, they seemingly broke their own rule and showed off a bunch of games that are nowhere close to being done (I think anyone that thinks Fire Emblem Warriors or Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is coming out this year needs to reevaluate themselves). Not to mention I was once again disappointed by the price, lack of internal storage, as well as the lack of launch titles. For those aspects it feels like Nintendo is repeating the Wii U launch mistakes again because I see a lot of similarities. It's kinda frustrating because you think they would have learned but then again it IS Nintendo after all. I think that the system will get better over time but I'm still going to wait at least until after Holiday 2017 before I consider getting one. Still too many unknowns to make a confident purchase for me.
As there's no BC, paid online service, and most of interesting games have no release date yet, I will hold my money until the new Mario game this winter. I can save several months' service fee, and may get discount at that time, choose from different great bundle versions or even more colors, while almost miss nothing before it.
On the good side, its region free means I can choose some Japanese title freely (few more lunch title actually, but the games either I already have on other platforms, or not interested), and it's smaller than I thought that without joy-con, it can fit my pocket (just 10mm larger than 3ds xl). I probably want to see if I can find a pouch that could store the pad and joy-con as separated parts.
I actually never have commented on this site before but I signed up just to throw my two cents out there. First a little on my gaming history grew up on Nintendo but as I got older grew out of gaming for a very long time but have owned all their Home consoles except Wii. each generation my game library and time dwindled. Fast forward I was at game stop in march of 2013 and saw a Wii U. Never heard of it before nor aware of its commercial failure. I'm one that doesn't buy into hype and have a specific and unique taste. For whatever reason I fell in love with the wii u system and now almost four years later I have a great library of games that I can enjoy with my daughter and some games to me are the best in the series. I understand lack of third party support is not here but being a parent that doesn't want anything offensive or nudity or strong language this system and games suits me well. Ever since the announcement of NX. I was slightly intrigued but not hyped. The more leaks and rumors made me less and less interested. Then the first reveal about a month ago or so. I watched with my wife and we thought the ad of a bunch of people playing on the go and the corny music we both being nintendo only people were appauled at how all the fanboys were jumping up and down and yet it looked terrible to us. slightly improved graphics over the Wii u but nothing to get excited about and to be quite honest being a hybrid was the only positive thing. Those joy con controllers look horrible and too small for anyone with big hands and just flat out awkward. No mention of hardware specs and a full out detail on it was as if there hiding the fact its basically a slightly tweaked Wii - u. Now on to this presentation I could hardly watch it and ended up fast forwarding most of it. Breath of the Wild in my honest opinion had some terrible voice acting and was bland and dry. The original trailers for the Wii - u had more personality and charm to it. Mario odyssey looked odd and out of place and the backgrounds did not do the game justice. I could careless about Warrior dynasty crossover. Paid online sucks for those who game online but I don't but its still wrong when you have the weakest online service anyway. Slightly graphical improvements for MK8 and splatoon 2. Who cares. Yeah i get to buy the same game again that is slightly running better than its Wii u version. I understand that this is just the first wave of games but they all seem to lack something to me. Like Nintendo is trying to hard to branch out and they just seem different to me and I'm not one to buy into hype or force myself to like something when I do not. This Switch makes me appreciate my Wii U even more and I will gladly not make the switch. Everything about this system rubs me the wrong way. Also I hardly doubt anyone that moved over XBOX or PS4 or PC gamers are going to be interested. In fact I bet of their 13 million Wii u user base they may only keep about half of that and I'm one of those they just lost at least for this generation maybe on board for their next console if its something to actually get excited about. For the life of me I can't see what anyone is hyped about when it comes to the switch.
Absolutely awful, no excusing it.
Let me get this out of the way: Zelda looks great, Mario looks rad, I'm hyped for the idea of FE Warriors and Xenoblade 2, and I'm sure SMT5 will appeal to quite a few as well.
But let's look at our launch titles: Zelda and 1.2.Switch. Now, let's look at our Switch-Exclusive titles... err, title. 1.2.Switch. A, admittedly novel but terribly shallow-looking minigame collection that seems excusively designed around multiplayer.
So if I want to play new Nintendo games by myself, I look at the Switch, and there's literally nothing there for me. This is actually worse than the launch of Wii U and 3DS. Face it, we've been getting less games on both consoles for over a year now, and this is what they have to show for it? It's borderline insulting.
300 dollars seems fair price considering the tech they are putting into this thing. For what is supposedly an Nvidia Shield on Steroids the games looked pretty impressive.
I don't really get the complaining over the paid online if it means better service. Sony and MS have been doing it for years. It was inevitable Nintendo would get in on the act too.
Translation could have been better but still it was nowhere near as bad as the Sonic Anniversary stream.
When was the last time really a console had a killer launch lineup. People say Nintendo hasn't learned anything but they kinda have considering BoTW is a launch game and the Switches first year is already shaping up to be miles better than the majority of Wii U's lifetime
@BiasedSonyFan the new systems play games that old systems can't. Try porting witcher III to PS3. Its not just about the graphics. It's the worlds they are able to create.
A launch line-up like that is literally all I'd need to buy a Switch. Are you telling me that 1.2.Switch is even comparable to Super Mario World, F-Zero, and Mario 64? Those were fantastic launches compared to this.
I will go with others that said the presentation was a mixed bag:
Starting with the Bad:
1. The 32GB memory is a joke, both by current needs and considering how cheap flash memory is these days. No clue as to whether 32GB is an included microSD or is that actually internal? This is only minimally bad because they decided to go with very standard SD cards which are cheap and plentiful. I got a 64gb @ xmas for $15 (san disk) and a 128gb for a little over $40....memory storage really shouldn't be a problem.
2. The lack of software details....they showed some nice things but kind of whitewashed a lot of it......leaving me confused as to what will really be available at launch.
3. Accessories pricing......ouch what I load of crap. I mean Joycons with a grip will cost you $110, the Dock is $90, and the pro controller is $70. Hopefully this is just launch window pricing and by xmas 2017 these prices will be more reasonable. In all fairness ps4/xb1 controllers are $65 (but go on sale often). The joycons really do pack a lot of tech in those little controllers so the price may be justified but still.
4. The realization that this is no ps4.......look form factor, the power consumption, the storage medium.......this is going to be a cool hybrid portable that can play a lot of different types of games because of its form and control options......still games like MGS5 or Tomb Raider are still likely not going to be ideal fits for Switch.......good thing I own a ps4....lol.....but I don't think Switch will be a one machine fits all as some have hoped for.
5. Lack of launch title details......confirming what only 3 games for March 3.......that's just crap......we know there will be more (there better be) but minus Zelda and I think Arms looks fun, the lineup looks super slim and lame....hopefully more titles will be confirmed for March 3 soon.
6. No VC details and really not much on eShop details at all other than we will soon be paying.....which is fine especially if the do a PSN+ type deal. I got so many good free games for Vita that it kept the system relevant for me. Still what about unified accounts, putting my purchases on multiple systems and not having to by old VC games for the 3rd or 4th time.
Ok now for what I considered the Good:
1. Region free......I don't personally care that much but I know a lot of people do. With the Switch being a portable in a world of travelers it makes sense it should be region free. At least now I don't have to listen to the poor Euros whine any longer...
2. Price......I think the system price at $299 is solid. The joycons obviously house a lot of tech and if the system has 4gb and a solid Tegra chipset then the price is not too bad.....minus the accessories (which we know will come down).
3. Joycons........Look as long as the fit ok in the hand (I am 6'1 and have 'big' hands) then I think they look really cool. They have a lot of tech with the motion, ir, nfc, HD rumble. Nintendo has made so many great controller advances I think they are doing it again.
4. Mario and Zelda..........Zelda keeps looking better and better and the fact that it will look better on a portable than WiiU is amazing. Mario just looks awesome.....like in a way they are finally bringing 3d Mario into the 21st century.
5. Developer enthusiasm.......I think devs are fired up.....which they never really were about WiiU. This device truly will be the most powerful portable game system and has awesome input options............I think this will help attract a wide range of devs.
All in all it was a good enough presentation. I was super hyped and at times the hype was justified but sometimes it was like meh.............I think Nintendo is learning from past mistakes in that they (as they said they would) unifying all game development under one umbrella which will surely lead to a decent regular stream of their games. They have learned a lot about working with Indies thru WiiU which is great because as a result Switch will be well supported by Indies.
What bothers me is what they possibly didn't learn. God bless them for trying weird poo and that is part of Nintendo but their fans want some things so badly and instead of just giving us what we want......Imagine if they had showed a real Metroid game 2d or 3d. How about Fzero, Excitebike, 3DDK, Pokémon, Fire Emblem, Mario Golf.......I mean for the love of jesus they just refuse to give their diehard fans what we want and show me 1-2 Switch and Arms (which could be cool). Also......the GC hold such great nostalgia with their hardcore fans.....they could have easily put GC on WiiU (I play them on WiiU with Nintendont).
My last point is it is 7 weeks till launch........what the hell are they holding out info for at this point? Today every 3rd party or Indy making games should be out talking about the system. I think the tech is slick and Nintendo make awesome games, but will they learn enough from past mistakes to allow Switch to truly be a mass success or will this be the last system Nintendo makes before just becoming a software publisher?
I'm not planning on purchasing a Switch, but I found the presentation interesting. Fire Emblem Warriors was the only game that stood out to me (and it was probably one of the least covered). I don't like the idea of paid online game play, though Splatoon 2 looked lovely. I was a little disheartened by the price (still hoping for a permanent New 3DS mark down). Was never interested in BOTW, and I wasn't just amazed by the other games featured (though I know more will be coming). For now I am very content with my Wii U and 3DS.
Also (and I know it's a bit off topic), I hope another Nintendo Direct will come in a few weeks for the 3DS. Several awesome looking titles are coming this year, and I'm hoping to hear about a few more (coughs ETRIAN ODYSSEY V coughs).
I have a hard time answering these questions (other than the last one), mainly because I'm just not sure what we're looking at on launch day, and the launch window for that matter. I've counted 3 main games on launch day (Zelda, 1 2 Switch, and Arms). I guess we'll have some smaller releases too such as Bomberman (I looked and it said March). Splatoon is in the summer so that's a 3 month window of possibility. Mario doesn't hit until Xmas.
All I'm saying is that I liked what I saw, but I wasn't wowed at all by the amount of content they have to start. This was even after supposedly holding off releasing this past Xmas cause not enough content was ready, and I still feel that way months later.
The price is what it is, I'm glad Mario's not a launch title so I don't have to pre-order the system, gives me a bit of time to save that money up. Probably an October/November purchase.
I should just shut up after that mega post I just made, but last point is I think the launch period is a good thing for Switch.
E3 should be super exciting with Mario playable and 3rd parties hopefully showing support.
By Xmas I bet the core is down to $250 and plenty of great games should be out...........The Spring launch gives them some margin for error but if they are not fully ready to roll by XMAS with the right price and games then they are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past
@3MonthBeef At this moment, you're like a tiny beacon of refreshing logic amidst a sea of unreasonable, dumb-@ssed negativity. So many people who need to settle down and take a breather before spouting all their baseless negativity. My old man would have probably smacked them over the head for it...
No thoughtful comments, just slap down the first bit of bile-induced text that pops up in your head. A lot of people also make completely wrong comparisons, seem to have selective memory or fail to see the good stuff and the bigger picture.
YES, the presentation was bad. From all the translators, only Bill Trinen was able to make it something lively and easy to listen to, and the pacing of the entire event was too slow, and maybe the on stage presentations could have been a bit more diverse with some more games instead of cramming them in a 1.5 minute trailer, but that really was about it as far as the bad things are concerned, if you put in the effort of looking at it objectively.
Now for the good things:
A new and wonderful looking Mario
Zelda at launch
Lots of games coming (80 in development)
Pretty decent third party support, with more to come
Highly advanced haptics/motion controls offering interesting gameplay options
1080p/60fps on TV confirmed
Capacitive touch screen
Better than rumored battery life
Better online services (I'm sure DeNA will handle that)
Real sequels to Splatoon and Xenoblade instead of reboots
A truckload of good jRPG's
People wrongfully complaining about the price or 720p on the go need to get their brains checked, because they are HUGELY missing the point, and the actual facts.
First off, like you said, this is a LAUNCH price. The other systems also weren't that cheap when they first arrived. But WAY more importantly, if we are truly going to compare the price, then remember that this is two systems in one.
If we want that on PS4, we would need to buy a PS Vita as well, so $300 is NOT way too expensive, it's a normal price for getting a hybrid system that offers options that the two others won't be able to out of the box.
And that brings me to the whole "oh no, 720p on the go will make my eyes bleed, I can't play in such a horribly low resolution" BS.
The other two consoles don't even have portable play, so for all intents and purposes, Xbox and Playstation have ZERO p resolution on the go...
And even if you get a PS Vita, then you would still have a CONSIDERABLY lower resolution than on the Switch, so what the f*** is there to complain about? Yègh!!!
And people whining about the 32GB storage? Another misguided perception. Why can't people use their brains? It's what they're for...
The Switch DOESN'T NEED STORAGE UNLESS YOU ONLY PLAY DIGITAL, MORONS!!!
The cartridge IS the storage, so the 32GB will at most only be for additional DLC, and since you can add AT LEAST 256GB to it via the Micro SD card slot.
I see a lot of people acting out feelings instead of constructive criticism, the most laughable comments are the ones claiming to be real Nintendo fans as some sort of validation of their negativity, what a joke. The only criticism that is good, is the constructive kind, and there's not a heck of a whole lot to be found amongst all these whiners.
And it's still early days. The Treehouse already showed off a lot of extra stuff, and more footage of the games we only saw snippets from, so they're already "recovering" from the somewhat mixed bag that was the initial presentation.
I'm expecting much more news and information to arrive in the next weeks and months to come, also from Nvidia, since as expected there was no specs info on the hardware from Nintendo themselves, so Nvidia will probably take care of that.
Anyways, I'm off for now, because I'm still somewhat tired of staying up so late and of being very disappointed. Not so much by Nintendo, but by all the "fans" that are once again only focusing on what they didn't get and holding onto rumors that are now confirmed to be wrong, like the price point.
And people are STILL holding onto that, delusional as they are, thinking that somehow at the next E3, Nintendo will announce a price drop, only 2,5 months after the initial release... How dumb can you be?
Nàh, not going to happen any time soon. Maybe a year after launch, but not much sooner.
Damn, after having read all that bile inducing stuff officially known as comments, I initially wasn't even planning on commenting here because of all the trash I've read (and I've read ALL of the comments) but I just HAD to. Sorry to slap this wall of text on you, man, especially as I only intended to give you a compliment, so let's end this TL;DR with that. Thanks for the clear-mindedness and putting things in perspective, something that a lot of people apparently are unable to do...
I enjoyed it overall. Mario and Splatoon coming out later don't bother me at all, my biggest disappointment was that online is paid now. I really hope they set up a cool infrastructure if they are charging now, presumably to set up a solid online service/community.
Zelda trailer was outstanding, love the look of the new Square Enix game/Xenoblade, gaming sizzle reel was great (More games should have been given time or actual mentions from this!) and I am impressed by the JoyCon/Switch tech. Hype was sky high so I don't think there was anyway for the presentation to live up to my expectations.
I really hope they let us know more about the Switch UI and online service soon as the Switch system itself still seems really cool in itself. In addition, more news about games coming soon. Overall, I'd say it was good.
@subpopz I've played them all aside for Super Mario World. And that alone should say enough.
I think that even around the point of Sunshine (although I liked the premise of that game, and the world), the colour palette and overall design choices were a far cry from the Super Mario 64 style.
If I critiqued FLUDD then I would be "beside" what I am trying to say. The bosses were too colourful compared to SM64. It's hard to communicate this without sounding absolutely nit picky.
SM64 conserved the uniform colour styles from the previous games. Sunshine and Galaxy, and now Odyssey, all seem to insist on making the worlds seem more cartoonish and that is the only word that fits.
And whatever associations come with cartoonish: over the top, slapstick, goofy, too comical. SM64 took the extremely tight design of the previous games and evolved it into complex (at the time) graphics. To over-saturate the games with colour via eccentric objects and architecture does not help enrich the gameplay experience. Outlandish looking airships, cute critters, cuteness overload. Even Super Mario Sunshine had this kind of "cute charm" that I just cannot accept in a Mario game.
SM64 deserves all the innovation it came to stand for but as far as I can tell the game design is not evolving what SM64 brought to the table. Even the snow worlds of Mario 64 had a certain restrained charm to them. That is the kind of thing I would have liked to see in a next-gen Mario game, a restrained charm. Something inspiring and evocative without being outwardly cute. A single baby penguin looking for its mother in a largely snowy world: a restrained charm. This kind of zaniness that we are seeing as the series goes on is not what I want.
@Tendogamerxxx dude, I've owned every Nintendo console to date. I got my Wii U at launch. This is deja vu. In fact, the launch lineup is worse than the Wii U lineup.
That Mario game looks 2 gens old, it would look better on a ps3.
I feel sad for the big N. At least I can play Zelda on my Wii U. It is the only silver lining in this debacle.
The machine itself looked great! But the launch line-up didn't really excite me.
1 2 Switch feels like it should have been a pack-in game like Wii Sports/Nintendo Land as, like those titles, it looks like a proof of concept for the controllers.
As someone who's played Mario Kart 8 extensively, I was disappointed with a Deluxe version rather than a true Mario Kart 9.
Right now I think I'll wait till Mario Odyssey is released to pick one up, unless something more appealing is announced before then. While Breath Of The Wild looks amazing, there doesn't seem to be enough else on the horizon to justify buying a new console just to play it. Immediately after the presentation, I preorderd the WiiU version, and will play through my backlog before I get around to eventually buying a Switch.
@subpopz Fair enough. I have just gotten so used to downloading games. Maybe I'll have to return to the physical world. Nevertheless, so far I'm not tempted at all by this console.
@RedeadLink really? You didn't care for Super Mario Odyssey?
@3MonthBeef I live in the Great White North, otherwise known as Canada.
i thought the presentation was good if a bit boring, kinda felt like a staff meeting
but the news to come out of it was great and i am SO pre-ordering when i can
Why do people always refer to the phone thing? Not everyone spends that sort of money on their phone.
@Syrek24 Wish I could give you a lot more likes than just one. That makes you, me, @3MonthBeef and only a handful of others the only sensible commenters and realistic Nintendo fans in this entire, HUMONGOUS thread of negativity and bias...
@3MonthBeef Think nothing of it, my friend. Credit where credit's due...
I understand why you wouldn't make walls of text like me, but in my case it's either a choice of bottling it all up inside, or letting it out completely and then I MUST get all of it off my chest, TL;DR or not...
I feel that Nintendo did well, but they played it very safe. There wasn't enough "WOW" factor to what i saw, and it was a little disappointing to see tidbits of games and not a constant flow of 3-5 minute trailers for each one. Even previous Nintendo Directs have been stronger than this.
Still, I was already sold on the concept. And Splatoon 2 and one or two others have me interested. The pricing was never a factor for me either so count me as one of the first to buy the thing.
Also, I felt it was odd that we didn't see any Seasons of Heaven footage/info during the presentation...
AND GUESS WHAT!? IT LOOKS LIKE LAURA KATE DALE AND FRIENDS DIDN'T GET ANYTHING RIGHT! HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES!?
@Syrek24 @ThanosReXXX @BiasedSonyFan @3MonthBeef Way too much logic for these people. Amazing how people getting out of their prams is supposed to be accepted as an opinion these days. Even more amazing is most of them are actually adults. I think they need a new hobby if something like this gets you so worked up. Anyone would think they've got a gun held to their heads...lol.
@WiltonRoots Welcome to the small handful...
I'm happy with what I saw. The moment they mentioned online would now be subscription backed, I suspected it would be reserved to either press releases or a Direct. Considering their current system is only "okay" I would hope they have something better given they want money now.
@BiasedSonyFan Thanks, right back at you. I was so disheartened after having read all that negativity, that I didn't want to scroll back through it to find all the positive and/or realistic people, but consider yourself bundled in with the handful of logical people that I mentioned in comment #335.
I've been watching the Treehouse over the last couple of hours and my reserved optimism (it's not like I was cluelessly happy with ALL of it) has improved quite a bit, now that I've seen more of Mario Kart, Splatoon 2, and a couple of other games.
@3MonthBeef Well, @aaronsullivan is also one of us, along with @DanteSolablood and @MarcelRguez. Couple more and we'll have a dirty dozen...
I could contribute another wall of text to this page, but I'd rather just point out that I kind of enjoyed the presentation and am increasingly optimistic about the system and it's shown games.
@BiasedSonyFan Nobody ever complains about Sony, or at least not much. I've no idea why, since they've sure made their share of mistakes over the years.
Also, a lot of their fans seem to think that the PS4 was originally always a better deal than the Xbox One, but almost no one has remembered (or even knows) that Sony ditched their own camera, motion controls and DRM like features right before their launch, after they witnessed the backlash that Microsoft got with Kinect and always online, otherwise they would have been even more expensive than Microsoft with their starter kit...
@3MonthBeef Watching the 1-2 Switch bit now on Treehouse life, courtesy of the Wii U GamePad, all while watching TV and typing this on the PC, Multi-tasking ahoy...
But on-topic: that 1-2 Switch game actually looks like a lot more fun than it initially looked, and it seems to me that it is going to be hilarious at parties or with family and friends.
@3MonthBeef In any case, it is certainly a game that would fit Laura Kate Dale like a glove, except for the fact that her switch didn't go as easy as 1-2...
OMG. . . first time in my life I don't want a new nintendo console since first day... The word is just Dissapointed...
32GB... On-line paiment... 3 hours of batery life... Bad prices and surely they will continue with these stupids censorships for westerns users. NO nintendo !! NO LIKE THAT !!
Or at least, make it cheaper. On-line paiment and 32GB it's just a baby's toy console and you can't call "portable" a 3 hours batery life after all.
It would be better a spensive but GOOD console... But they just want to spend money on themathics parks, Vans wears and phone stuffs... They are not a real videogame company now...
And I was a nintendo defender during all my life ( exepting the censorships for western localizations ) but I really just can't defende this TT___TT
@Ichi-Tan Be logical and reconsider. You're making problems where there are none:
32GB - no problem because of cartridges
You don't need to install any games, and for DLC you can add micro SD card, with AT LEAST 256GB, which is MORE than enough.
Price - also no issue.
Considering all the tech used, the price is expected. Advanced rumble, motion tech, advanced IR camera, HD capacitive screen and custom Nvidia chipset. Altogether, the price makes more than enough sense.
We have no idea what it is going to cost and how good it is going to be, but it is safe to assume that DeNA will take care of it, and they are very experienced in online services so I think we're good...
I just reserved mine and the SE of Zelda. I don't get the complaints really. Price? It is 300 USD. PS4/XBO launched at 400. Why are you expecting a hybrid console to be cheaper than a two year old console currently? Also gaming is not a cheap hobby. I am fine with the gaming line up as I like RPGs and Musou games...and Zelda looks amazing. Gamers have been paying for online for years. Nintendo is looking to make their network services on par with Sony and MS and yeah that takes a sub. Deal with it. HDD size? The games are small (considering their scope) and SD cards are cheap. Even if you went digital only storage is cheaply expanded.
Bring on 3/3/17.
Overall the games look pretty good, As a fan of RPG games I'm excited! Plus Splatoon 2 and No more heroes! The lack of any Virtual Console info was disappointing, especially considering the gamecube rumors as of lately. And the pricing on the controllers is ridiculous, Never should a controller cost more than a game.
I voted that I hadn't decided yet on a pre-order, and then I placed a pre-order about two hours later. I'd end up getting a Switch eventually anyway, but I want Zelda (for Switch) at launch, so...there you go.
@3MonthBeef I, too, remember how I could buy Mario 64 for my SNES.
To all of you who are complaining about the lack of launch titles, you obviously don't get the fact that Nintendo hasn't revealed all of the launch titles. There are going to be more than three launch titles, so please stop being stupid.
@ThanosReXXX Hello ^^ Edd... Oh men... Maybe somebody can missunderstand my comment xDD First of all. Sorry for my English I'll try to explain you now:
Nothing to reconsider, of course I'll buy it !! xDD But not launch day. I'll wait one or two years because it's looks like the same story that Wii U again.
I bought my Wii U thinking specially on 2 pre-anuncied exclusive games: Dragon quest X and Zelda.
For me the real reason of the Wii U troubles was the numbers of selling units and that's finally ending with no Dragon Quest X for wersterns regions, bad way to looking for Pegi 12 cutting some good games features using really irritating censorships, no translations to spanish, and few stock in some countries like Spain, for example. Making the 32GB in a real trouble. And a obligation.So to the real price you must to add the price of the external memory. Are you following me ??
Zelda finally wasn't a exclusive and Spain voice actors are just ... Horribly !! Even in the hollywood films. They never translate nothing to spanish but Zelda was maked with spanish horribly voices... TT__TT Of course, we still don't know if japanese will be optional. I hope yes ^^
Switch must to use these SDXC microcards, around 256GB, rigth ?? Are you saw the prices of these cards ? When you live in a country where nintendo making bad with the stock, you NEED to buy digital versions sometimes. So, for me the real price of switch will be switch + SDXC microcard and a second cotroller because my wife like to play too xP Ah !! + one now 70€ game because no game packs was presented too. Real price is really bad
My great worry is the sellings before I'll buy it and third party games is the key here. Nintendo must to "steal" clients to Sony for not to repeat the Wii U story again. And what we did saw yesterday ? ... Skyrim ... 1 second Goku's face ( maybe DBX 2 ) the promise of FIFA, and now we know DQ heroes 1 & 2 with better conditions that the PS4 users had in the past... Even no Mario game for launch, no SF, no Tekken, just a lot of "coming soon" games and very focused in the nintendo's fans... I'd preffered a lot of Witchers, GTAs, and these typical sonyers games. Better use money for buy other's IP than make themathics parks attractions. It's like he ( Kimishima ) was thinking the battle is lose before they start to figth.
I know nintendo is very good with Japan, USA and UK users. ( spacially Japan ) but for some others countries what you said is not a trouble, in fact, it was already a trouble with Wii U. And better don't talk about the amiibo stock... I have polish friends and I know these troubles is not only a Spain's troubled. Nintendo only take cares about Japan and USA since last generation.
At least, make things cheapers in these countries you don't trade in the same way.
I'm just affraid this is remenbering me the start of Wii U again
About on-line paiment you rigth ^^ But the guy telling "only for play splatoon 2 and MK8" Have rigth too. If switch will have sports games, figthing like SFV, Call of duties and these stuffs since first day of on-line paiment, then I can defense they like allways I did in the past.
But I didn't want to say "so bad" I just wanted to said "It just dessapointed me" ... Maybe I thinked Kimishima was a "bussines big shark" that will eat Sony with potatoes and now I see nintendo will be repeat the same script this generation too TT__TT
I'm not hating they, but I'm really sad TT___TT
Sorry for the big reply and thanks you !!
@ThanosReXXX Nice rant. The only point I would argue is you say "better online" but neglect them saying "paid online" in the event kind of started things on the downward spiral last night. They countered w/ "no region locking" but the damage had already been done.
As for 32GB storage, well, it is 2017, and for the past 5 years or so a lot of people have been going all digital w/ downloads b/c they don't like having discs in their homes, so there is that. Did you buy your Wii U yet? 32GB filled up pretty fast for me and I don't buy digital games. Lego Dimensions, which we own on disc on Wii U, had about 8GB of non-requested downloads. And a LOT of games are digital only. So, in reality, 32GB does requires an SD card for almost everyone w/in 12 months after launch.
@the101 Ehh, I've never been a huge fan of platforms, it's not that I don't enjoy them but at the same time it isn't really high up my list.
@rjejr Oh ! You said what I forgot in my reply to he xD
That's rigth, XCX have 10GB of digital pre-installation even if you use the disc, it's optional, of course but if you use it, the game run better and there are the CV games too ^^ Old wii good games like XC need 6,5GB and system use 7 of the 32GB Some DLC like MK8 or HW can use 3 or 4GB so 7+10+6,5+4 + saving images, datas and actualitations = Hey !! I just buy 3 physical games and one CV game and I need a hard disk xDDD
And when you win a award of nintendo or game magazines or you just want to use a my nintendo offers or discount you MUST to buy the digital version... TT___TT
Region free was the good point of the presentation ^w^ For me, of course xP
@KingofSaiyanZ if you don't care about having 2.5 hrs of portability, then the only thing left is Nintendo exclusives. That's enough for most fans, but it won't compete with the other consoles. Gamers will remember that their wii and wiiu collected dust for many months waiting for the next big Nintendo title.
Overall, the presentation was a little disappointing. There are two big reasons:
1. Price. The system is $300. IMHO it should have been $250 (especially if it's packing the Tegra Maxwell X1 processor, which it probably is).
On top of that, online multiplayer is paid, and will be presumably $40-$60 per year (about equivalent to PS Plus or Xbox Live, but without all the additional free games benefits).
On top of that, an additional controller will set you back a whopping $70 (for the Pro controller) or $80 (for another set of two Joy-Cons).
All of this on top of buying $60 games. This isn't even including a microSD card that you'll need to buy if you're planning to go digital.
Considering Nintendo hasn't announced anything major since 2015 for the Wii U, I expected there to be a good number of games planned throughout this year. But in terms of major first-party games, all we have are Breath of the Wild, Super Mario Odyssey, Splatoon 2, Arms, and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (yes, there's also 1,2 Switch but it doesn't look like an in-depth experience). Two of the aforementioned games are ports of Wii U games.
Are there other first-party games for 2017? Nintendo might have more planned to show during E3, but IMHO they should have shown all first-party games coming out in 2017 during this presentation, and save E3 for 2018 and beyond. Where's Smash Bros.? Where are the rumored remastered versions of Xenoblade X and Bayonetta 1&2? Where is the rumored Pikmin 4? If the rumored games are true, they should have been presented. AND the launch lineup is pitiful, essentially featuring just Breath of the Wild, a game that could be bought on the Wii U instead. Not much justification for all the costs for the console, online multiplayer, and additional controllers.
So it seems, unfortunately, that Nintendo may stumble on price and games a bit with Switch, which is disappointing considering the two years they sacrificed Wii U game development. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if a 3DS-like scenario plays out, with the Switch receiving a price drop of at least $50 by holiday 2017 if sales aren't that much.
The system itself is excellent, and I'm sure the games that come out will be really good and much more than the Wii U ever had, but Nintendo didn't handle this presentation well at all (spending a lot of time on two games that are Wii-esque is not a good message to send to gamers).
@Chandlero $470 Australian Dollars at EB Games - I was thinking the Switch may have been $400 AUD, since that would be the price if it was a direct USD to AUD conversion
They shouldve just called this the ZeldaU.
Paid online service
Wiiu owners got the shaft for about a year and a half so that N could gear up to the Switch. Wow. What were they doing? Making 1-2 FU.
I've summed up my thoughts on both the Switch and the presentation in a rather lengthy post:
I'd definitely like to get my hands on the system and its games though, and see what I think after that.
@Ichi-Tan First off: no reason to apologize for your English, I'm pretty sure my Spanish is worse...
My main point with all the complaints is that we don't know enough to already make final decisions.
We don't KNOW if games will do installs even without DLC, because normally, you would expect cartridge-based games to be optimized and complete. I can't remember a single DSi or 3DS game that required any extra files to be installed, so I'm not expecting that for the Switch either.
Only for DLC and potential patches/upgrades, but these sizes will probably be minimal, meaning you could make that 256GB SD card last a VERY long time indeed...
And if games on cartridge are more expensive in your region than digital downloads (I would imagine prices are the same, knowing Nintendo, but still) then just wait a bit longer until they drop in price, or safe up some more cash. Cartridges are superior to downloads anyway, so why would you even want them in the first place?
And with the Switch being region free, maybe you'll be rid of the "horrible Spanish voices" in games, I don't know...
l'm not going to say that I don't understand your concerns, but I am saying that it is too soon to judge. The Nintendo Life crew is pretty positive after they have actually tried the Switch out, but most people on here are already massively negative without ever even having touched a single button of the device, which is too ridiculous to even take seriously for a single second.
As for the online services: besides my belief that they will be good because of DeNA, I also think they will be reasonably priced because of Nintendo probably not wanting to create too big of a difference between their free online and this new service, so I'm expecting only a few dollars per month for full access, maybe $30 - $40 for a whole year at the most, much like Xbox Live.
So, don't be (too) sad yet, let's just wait and see, and maybe try and get your hands on a Switch demo unit somewhere in the coming months, if they even have events like that in Spain.
Oh, and Nintendo was never going to eat Sony up, and we realistic Nintendo fans know that, but as we speak, more info is released on third party games, and I expect there to follow many more in the next few weeks and months. Remember: Kimishima said that 80 games are in development right now, and they can't all be party games, now can they?
In short, I think the Switch will do just fine, and it will not be another Wii U situation.
@rjejr Most of what you've mentioned, I addressed in comment #374 so let me know if I missed anything. Just trying to fight the good fight...
And yes, I have finally been able to score a Wii U. I thought I had already told you, but I guess not. Got the black premium edition with Mario Kart 8 installed. Other than that, I bought Batman Arkham City Armoured Edition, Bayonetta 1 & 2 and Zombi U and last summer I bought that 3DS/Wii U Humble Bundle that had Darksiders 2, Shantae & The Pirate's Curse, Freedom Planet, Affordable Space Adventures and Swords & Soldiers 2 in it.
And I downloaded Star Fox Zero Training, Star Fox Guard demo, Zen Pinball 2, Wii Sports Club and Lost Reavers.
And yes, that 32GB is now well and truly occupied, so I'll need an external HDD for all the DLC for these games, but that will come soon enough...
All in all, I'm very happy with it, and loving the GamePad. No idea what all the fuss is about with idiots, excuse me: people, claiming that the screen on the Game Pad is horrible and fuzzy. Even coming off Xbox 360 and PC HD gaming, I think Mario Kart 8 on the GamePad is looking very good and crisp, so I'm a happy old camper...
@ThanosReXXX So Thanos, mind telling me your thoughts on Nintendo's paid online (particularly when compared to the other offers) and the price for their side-equipment (pro controller and such)?
@UmniKnight Sure, no problem. As far as the online services go, I already tackled those in my earlier comments in this thread (#357 #374) and as far as the price of the pro controller is concerned: a PS 4 Dual shock also costs $50 in most shops, yet has no motion controls, no nfc/amiibo-like functionality and tech-wise, hasn't really changed from the PS3 version, so the price is justified in my opinion. And the Xbox One controller also costs $60, so apparently, $50 - $60 is a normal price for wireless controllers, and I'm fine with that. Wiimotes also still cost $40 or more...
And the Joy-Cons with all that tech crammed inside are also not expensive in my opinion. And honestly, you would only have to buy an extra pair anyways if you wreck the ones that come with the console or if you want to have the colored and the black ones for some reason, so that is an extra cost that you do not necessarily need to make.
I do think the dock is kind of expensive, considering all it contains is an HDMI and USB-C connector and a fan and heat-duct, but that is my only gripe as far as the peripherals are concerned.
Release prices on stuff like that is always high and will probably drop within a year.
@impurekind I wasn't sure, but the linking to your website made me wonder. And your other account is still here too, so I decided to ask you. Good to see you're still around.
@ThanosReXXX @ThanosReXXX Ah ! thanks you for your kindness ^^
Well, now I understand what you mean is we still must to wait to decide when and why buy or not buy the switch. But please, don't push me with the "negative" people team. I'm feeling just neutral, not negative, but not possitive with nintendo for first time in my life.
As you said, I'll be patient with the decision and let the time says the last word, but for that reason I can't rid from the voice actors xDD Wii U version is not region free xDD and I still don't want the switch but of course I'll buy BotW the launch day !! xDD
No no !! Here digitals version are the espensive ones, but some very good games like Fatal Frame Zero or Tokyo mirage seassons # FE must to be pre-ordered before the release date and nintendo send to the shops just the same numbers of pre-ordered games, even sometimes there are limits for that !! So if you didn't buy the special edition, or the launch day, you can't buy it physically and the game become in a only-digital version option.
Talking in a world wide words, switch is better, or worse, in some regions than others, And for my country, we was sufering the bad lucky face of the company for two generations. Look the prices now: Spain = 330€ And use the conversor if you are not in the Euro zone. Look how many $ , UKL and Yens is that number of € and then look the price of switch in these regions ( Japan, UK and USA ) Now add this is a zone with few stock troubles where you'll never see some physically versions of very good games. Do you think this is rigth ?? I don't like digital versions, but is better than never play the game, a obligation imposed by nintendo.
At least I could feel better if they compesated the users of that bad-lucky regions but not, besides that they make it more spensive precisely in these places
And the stock of PS, Xbox and PC game is perfectly functional
The prices you said for the on-line was very good for my thinking. 40 - 50 $ or € per year looks like good for clients, and good for company I would like that point will be like that
However, I really liked that you said because I must to be realistic with myself... I'm a nintender xDDD I allways love nintendo's IP and soon or later switch I know switch will have a game that I will need ( Please, Dragon quest X for western regions !! xD ) But for now, I need to read all these possible good news you said we still don't know for feel myself attracted enough for go to buy switch xP You really have a big rigth on that point. Inside "over 80 games" can be 1 or 2 "nuke weapons" I really hope things will go like you said
@ThanosReXXX Back to the topic at hand, I hope the third-parties come through, their line-up has a lot of things that interest me (as a "old" gamer who isn't into things like 1,2, Switch nor Street Fighter due to a dislike/hate for PvP, but loves RPGs/Action/Adventure).
I'll be getting a Switch for Zelda and Bomberman (to start with), specifically Bomberman has good memories for me as I remember playing it on an old handheld of Nintendo's.
As for the pro-controller specifically, my apologies I found a website that priced it at 79 euros without doing my research and finding out that another is pricing it at 59,99.
No doubt Nintendo will rely on a drip feed of info up to the release of, and during the life of, the Switch to keep fans hooked but it could have done with a stronger dash from the starting line. The games so far look sublime but there's just too few of them.
@UmniKnight I just took the prices from the official channels that offer the suggested retail prices. And of course it's pricey, but so are the controllers of the other consoles, so they're all more or less in the same ballpark. Tech costs, and the more tech, the higher the price tag...
And I've seen more than enough RPG's in the initial line-up, so you should be well provided for in the near future.
@Ichi-Tan Neutral is good, so fair enough.
As for me: I'm American, but I also live in Europe, so no conversion tool needed...
As for all the games and so on: we'll find out soon enough, it's only 1,5 months til launch and then another 3 months til the next E3, where they will probably have a whole bunch of new titles to announce, and some demos of games like the new Mario, so a lot to look forward to, I think.
Hardware looks fantastic, I thought the reveal trailer was fun. Had a number of great looking games, particularly Splatoon 2, Mario Odysey look fantastic. Curious to know more about Arms, FE Warriors, and Octopath Traveller. 1 2 Switch could be fun, but really should be lower priced as it looks like a collection of mini games (the videogame industry could stand to break the $50-60 new mold, not all games are deserving of this level of pricing, plus it's not competitive to Steam PC gaming). Per the pricing, $300 is fine for me and is a decent deal, but I don't think that pricing is going to appeal to a lot of casual gamers. Too close to the competition. Though arguably, the controller set is $80 and you get a number of accessories, which help add value. People more readily equate value to pack-in games, though, so it's unfortunate that they don't offer a little something more.
Internal memory-wise, they really should've at least had 64GB. Same issue as with WiiU. It is easier to expand with with the micro SD card, but it may be a turn off or prevent newcomers from impulse buying digital.
Quite surprised they're able to release early March instead of later, but at this time, most games don't appear like they'll be released until later. I think pre-orders at this time are primarily for the folks who must have the new Zelda game.
That latest Zelda trailer really piqued my interest in the game, but I typically don't like open world games, and so I feel I liked the fast pacing, action, story presented in the trailer, but at the same time I expect that most of the game will probably be slower paced exploration.
Hopefully they'll reveal more or kickstart a stronger Virtual Console start. And or allow porting of existing VC libraries.
Still hoping for Melee HD (or just a smooth running Melee port), Smash 4 with Inklings. Hoping the sales are good enough to entice indie devs into the fray.
All said, though, I like the innovative hardware. I intend to make use of all game modes, and think the idea of detachable and motion sensors controls are fantastic. The system seems pretty powerful as well
Arms need to get Little Mac as an unlockable!
The show left me much more excited about the system itself, but very disappointed about the launch. I was hoping to get 3-4 games at launch. Right now there's just Zelda for me. I was hoping for info about the eshop, too, including new VC platforms (mainly the Gamecube) and carried over VC purchases on day 1, and some Nindies. Zelda and a few good indie games could tide me over for the launch. Alas, we heard nothing about Stardew Valley, Yooka Laylee, or any of the other indies that are supposedly on the way.
Regardless, I've already pre-ordered the system and Zelda special edition (the Master edition was sold out by the time I heard about it). I just hope there's more than that for me on launch day.
@ThanosReXXX Also not sure how much of it is fact, but a major retailer in my country has listed Assassin's Creed Egypt and Pikmin World for March 24, Rabbids Invasion for March 17. Even if these dates are incorrect, it proves without shadow of a doubt that there's still a lot they haven't shown.
@jobunker I'm all for discussing different viewpoints and getting to know people, but I can't string your those two posts I'm involved in together to make any logical sense. Sounds like Mario 64 is the standard you are keeping while somehow thinking it's not super colorful or happy... with a character that leaps around saying yippee and wee! with every movement. Cuteness is everywhere in Mario 64. It's beyond saccharine. It's one of my favorite games too, but I don't think you know your own reasons for being less impressed with the new one. Probably more to do with who you were then and who you are now than with the games themselves if I had to guess.
Anyway, cheers, hope it grows on you and you get to enjoy it.
@aaronsullivan I don't know how to go about this without making it into a ridiculous game of words.
Dire, Dire, Docks was not "cute" at any point within the level. Many of the Mario 64 levels were also quite "quiet." That's not the way I remember them, that's the way they still come off now. The penguins in the snow world were the one cute "objects" in that world. I don't recall there being anything actually cute about the Shifting Sand Land or the Lava level.
Might I add even more tellingly that I don't recall the castle hub being exactly "cute" either. ...At least, that's not the first word I would use to describe it. Inviting, mysterious, pleasant. Cute? No. The metal mario stage was not "beyond saccharine" either.
I can very confidently say that we don't see SM64 the same way regardless of our reasons for both loving it.
Edit: I am all for evolving the games so that they don't necessarily come off as "gloomy" as some levels of SM64 were either. I don't think SM64 was the perfect game, nor do I think Mario games should aspire to be perfect, even with regards to their own self-imposed standards. Just that what we're seeing now isn't a faithful continuation of what the games ought to be.
Banjo-Kazooie, it has been said at IGN, is the perfect Mario game. Make of that what you will. For me, this means that Mario games are already entirely their own thing and have ample room to improve over let's say SM64. There was an Unreal engine Mario/Castle hub demo last year on Youtube. Although too realistic, I still prefer that to the comparatively 'actually real' city Mario was exploring in Odyssey. The Unreal demo (wisely also using the Castle hub 64 theme) conjured the right mix of austere, playful and pleasant that I once was fond of.
@UmniKnight Pssst... "your" region is also my region. I'm American but I live in the Netherlands...
@ThanosReXXX I'm always around:
@jobunker You seem very sensitive to color and cartoon looks. I'm not going to get into it about specifics, I think I'm getting an idea about what you are saying as Mario 64 could be quite moody but I maintain that part of that is just it was such a new type of experience back then, that the happy, colorful, cuteness everywhere wasn't as notable as the rest of the experience.
I'm tired of the New Super Mario Bros. look myself (but don't let it bother my enjoyment of the game much) and I'm glad this new one seems to be getting away from that a bit. Looks like each world is dramatically different in style. Plenty of moody worlds and creatures that match quite nicely with the slightly goofy smiles and eyes on everything and bosses that make you giggle even though they look a bit threatening at the same time that all the games have had.
If I had to bet, I'd bet you'd come around on your opinion of the game as you see more. If not, I hope I still like it!
@ThanosReXXX I thought I heard you saying you'd go back to the USA, must've been me then. Besides, I live in a place in the Netherlands most Dutch people haven't even heard of, so who knows xD.
But back on topic, have you seen those listings for Assassin's Creed Egypt, Pikmin World and something of a place holder Super Smash Bros and do you think there's any truth to the dates? (Intertoys has them listed)
@UmniKnight I had some vague plans about returning, but that was years ago, and nowadays, I have my own little company over here in Amsterdam, and with our glorious new President on the horizon, I'm not that much in a hurry anymore to return...
So, where are you at, then? I'll ask my Dutch friends if they know about it, or maybe I even know myself, since I've traveled a lot, also here in the Netherlands.
And no, I haven't seen these listings or placeholders, but they could be temporary and worst case scenario, they can always be retracted or changed, so I'll await any official statement either from Nintendo or the parties involved before I start celebrating actual big third party titles coming to the Switch...
How stupid does your comment look now, with over 41 million units sold, just goes to show we have no idea what will sell anymore than anybody else does.
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