This article is left of the point, the New 3DS represents the end of the product life cycle, its ability to reinvigorate is extremely limited by this simple fact, regardless of what could of been done better.
See the product extension part? That's the New 3DS in the 3DS product life cycle, at best it drags out the inevitable but it can't replace a new product.
Just further cementing the idea of Zelda being a dual release like Twilight Princess was, if NX comes out this year, I am putting my money on it being a launch title.
@Moon (Not Native American) If i was to take a guess, Tomahawk is not a "job", it is a weapon, that in this case is being used to describe a job, that is in reference to what is essentially a warrior, but a Native American one, and then dressing it up in Native American garbs. Its making a separation on the term warrior by race, hence the offense.
Not to be a stickler but this should be:
"Resident Evil Revelations 2, which came out on PS3, PS4, Vita, Xbox 360 and Xbox One. "
(Missing Vita)
Anyway my hope is that MHXG(if that is what they are making) is something that will come west and early into the NX's life. Of course MHX might be a one and only entry because of the soon to be NX, and Monster Hunter 5 is next.
@Action51 Stock prices are based off of investors and their perception of the company, not on its actual value. There are plenty of examples of where companies before a major release see's stocks sell off over a fear of a flop, look at any WoW expansion release or even when Nintendo announced Miitomo where either fear caused stocks to falls, or simply the announcement did not meet investors expectations, regardless of how wildly inaccurate they may have been.
Lets not forget that not only is there fear in the global economy, there is also plenty of uncertainty in the Japanese market in particular right now.
I am convinced a drop is coming in fear of the lack of either NX information or Mobile games that don't do enough for Investors, and this my friends, is when I will strike.
@zool Basically, it boils down to cost and it allows them more freedom with the development cycle of, for example, when to release. They have announced a limited run physical version for Vita so far, however I don't believe Nintendo has embraced extremely small limited print games.
@River3636 Was that tragic scenes original purpose to cause suicides? Was that the intent of the work itself? I don't think so. Also to just build on this for a moment, works such as that, tend to have explanations to things that may be misinterpreted that is lacking in games (Steins;Gate does this great though). For example I have been reading the Diving Comedy as of late, and there are multiple references that make 0 sense in this time period, but there is a healthy explanation following each chapter to explain these things as to understand them properly.
@edhe Its more that the localization responsibility is to keep to the intended message, not all things translate properly, somethings are not salvageable without reworking previous dialogue or scene. To use the picture I showed earlier as an example, its from Phoenix Wright, and represents a kindergartners name badge in Japan. Us, not being from Japan, would have no idea to its meaning, thus if a game was translated, we wouldn't understand references around it, this is why its localized, to keep the audience point of view in mind. No one lost their marbles over this change, it wasn't "censoring dialog" , it simply did not make sense to a Non-Japanese audience so it got nixed.
@Einherjar "Imo, there is a difference between localizing stuff so it is comprehensible and palatable and the removal of "offensive content"."
You are over simplifying it, what if something is only offensive to the secondary audience (the audience who had the media translated for them)? As in, its not offensive to the first audience, arguably , the main audience, but just the secondary one? Are you removing offensive content or are you making sure your original intent isn't misinterpreted because it doesn't translate to the other audience?
@tsukipon Everyone just gets attached to it because its an "offensive" subject, but things gets change all the time without a whimper because they don't translate properly.
Here is a perfect example for everyone, what is this(this example is from an actual localization of a game)?
@Aurumonado Actually, you just recognized the reason for the change in it self. Its intent was not that, people misrecognized what was intended, it was remove or changed to meet the audience misrecognition. Not all concepts or ideas translate perfectly over to different cultures, so they get changed or removed because this.
Here we go again with the localization issue again, Localization /=/ censorship (it can, but it doesn't intrinsically mean this).
As others have pointed out, the scene simply does not make the same connection with Western audiences as it does with Eastern audiences. People need to stop forgetting that by you, being a westerner, make different connections and have different thoughts to what people will perceive in the East or any other area. Take that knowledge, and it expand it to creating something, if a scene is interpreted in a non intended way in a different audience, do you change it to suit how they interpret things? Is that censorship? Or recognizing your audience?
@MrPuzzlez That is part of the solution, but represents the problem Sony had, it does an utter crap ton of other things that have been hemoraging money for years. That's why these past few years Sony has been cutting divisions and teams in an effort to focus on fewer things but be more competitive.
A spike is a spike and should be treated as such and is by no means a representative of the actual value of the stock. Point is, Nintendo stocks will be going up the end of this year , but this is not that, this is the Japanese stock market bouncing back.
It will keep declining until the NX rears its head, its like this with every major game/tech company. New product comes out and it goes up and up and up, then declines until a new business venture announcement , favorable sales figures, or some other product incorporates some technology from the other company. Otherwise it's down down down with random bumps from rumors or general market news.
This is just localization being localization, nothing new here except it being actually reported on.
Just out of curiosity, what gives one the right to weigh in on if a culture should be offended or not if one doesn't belong or really know anything about the culture?
@mjc0961 You do realise that pokemon is the most faked game around, if you think those $7 cartridges are real, good luck
If you took the time to actually go to eBay you will notice there is a stark price difference between the real and fake ones, real carts average higher.
I expect we will first be seeing a different type of physical medium first before digital only is the thing. If we are not to get rid of physical then physical needs to evolve so it can update just like digital. Then, if I uninstall the game, reinstalling it will result it being the most up to date version before uninstall, not the release version.
The more I think about it the more I realize that Amiibo's (at least now) are a kick at developers to bring games over to 3DS and Wii U. Here you have a product that has an established base that wants these products, you make a decent game and it does well, you can make a third party Amiibo, effectively allowing the dev to dip again with the product they made.
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Re: Genei Ibun Roku #FE Art Book Releases on 26th February in Japan
Fire Emblem Awakening art book is end of August Fyi
Re: Here's Exactly What Has Changed With Fire Emblem Fates' "Skinship" Petting Mode
Far too much short sighted rage from people with these localization changes.
Re: Here's Exactly What Has Changed With Fire Emblem Fates' "Skinship" Petting Mode
@Annoying_NPC I feel like your not grasping that different cultures find different things acceptable.
Re: Preview: Looking for the Light in The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD
Disappointed on a Non-Amiibo physical version, don't care for Amiibo, rather save the $10.
Re: 7th Dragon III Code: VFD is Heading to the Americas This Summer
Sega once again looking to realize its western potential. Kudos to Sega for FINALLY figuring it out.
Re: More Details Emerge on the Launch of My Nintendo
@KDChronos Chart

Re: Talking Point: The New Nintendo 3DS is Yet to Have a Real Chance to Revive the Portable Family
This article is left of the point, the New 3DS represents the end of the product life cycle, its ability to reinvigorate is extremely limited by this simple fact, regardless of what could of been done better.

See the product extension part? That's the New 3DS in the 3DS product life cycle, at best it drags out the inevitable but it can't replace a new product.
Re: The Legend of Zelda for Wii U Gets Its 2016 Release Window Back, as Project Guard Slips to 'TBC'
Just further cementing the idea of Zelda being a dual release like Twilight Princess was, if NX comes out this year, I am putting my money on it being a launch title.
Re: Feature: Five Key Details That May Emerge From Nintendo's Financial Reports and Briefings
@Grumblevolcano Oh I hope this is the case, I have been wanting for a good time to jump in on Nintendo stock.
Re: Bravely Second "Tomahawk" Costume Change Confirmed For The West
@Moon (Not Native American) If i was to take a guess, Tomahawk is not a "job", it is a weapon, that in this case is being used to describe a job, that is in reference to what is essentially a warrior, but a Native American one, and then dressing it up in Native American garbs. Its making a separation on the term warrior by race, hence the offense.
Re: Monster Hunter X (Cross) Sales Hit 3.2 Million as Capcom Talks Up 'Firm' Overseas Results
@SetupDisk They made a few odd design decisions(target platform, chapters etc) with the game which I believed aided in its poor sales.
Re: Monster Hunter X (Cross) Sales Hit 3.2 Million as Capcom Talks Up 'Firm' Overseas Results
Not to be a stickler but this should be:
"Resident Evil Revelations 2, which came out on PS3, PS4, Vita, Xbox 360 and Xbox One. "
(Missing Vita)
Anyway my hope is that MHXG(if that is what they are making) is something that will come west and early into the NX's life. Of course MHX might be a one and only entry because of the soon to be NX, and Monster Hunter 5 is next.
Re: Nintendo Share Value Ends Week on a High Ahead of Financial Results on 2nd February
@Action51 Stock prices are based off of investors and their perception of the company, not on its actual value. There are plenty of examples of where companies before a major release see's stocks sell off over a fear of a flop, look at any WoW expansion release or even when Nintendo announced Miitomo where either fear caused stocks to falls, or simply the announcement did not meet investors expectations, regardless of how wildly inaccurate they may have been.
Lets not forget that not only is there fear in the global economy, there is also plenty of uncertainty in the Japanese market in particular right now.
Re: Nintendo Share Value Ends Week on a High Ahead of Financial Results on 2nd February
I am convinced a drop is coming in fear of the lack of either NX information or Mobile games that don't do enough for Investors, and this my friends, is when I will strike.
Re: Detective Pikachu Trailer is Revealed, Arrives as a Download in Japan on 3rd February
This is ....so damn strange....I don't.......what is this?
Re: Neat Mega Man 3DS HOME Themes Arrive in Japan
I am still debating what platform to get Legacy Collection for, part of me is saying 3DS, but that unfortunate d-pad placement....hmmmmm
Re: Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty! Has Been Approved for Release on Wii U
@zool Basically, it boils down to cost and it allows them more freedom with the development cycle of, for example, when to release. They have announced a limited run physical version for Vita so far, however I don't believe Nintendo has embraced extremely small limited print games.
Re: Nintendo Removes Infamous Drugging Scene From Western Localisation Of Fire Emblem Fates
@River3636 Was that tragic scenes original purpose to cause suicides? Was that the intent of the work itself? I don't think so. Also to just build on this for a moment, works such as that, tend to have explanations to things that may be misinterpreted that is lacking in games (Steins;Gate does this great though). For example I have been reading the Diving Comedy as of late, and there are multiple references that make 0 sense in this time period, but there is a healthy explanation following each chapter to explain these things as to understand them properly.
Re: Nintendo Removes Infamous Drugging Scene From Western Localisation Of Fire Emblem Fates
@River3636 Does it? or does it preserve the artists intent? "Know your audience" extends to all works.
Re: Nintendo Removes Infamous Drugging Scene From Western Localisation Of Fire Emblem Fates
@edhe Its more that the localization responsibility is to keep to the intended message, not all things translate properly, somethings are not salvageable without reworking previous dialogue or scene. To use the picture I showed earlier as an example, its from Phoenix Wright, and represents a kindergartners name badge in Japan. Us, not being from Japan, would have no idea to its meaning, thus if a game was translated, we wouldn't understand references around it, this is why its localized, to keep the audience point of view in mind. No one lost their marbles over this change, it wasn't "censoring dialog" , it simply did not make sense to a Non-Japanese audience so it got nixed.
Re: Nintendo Removes Infamous Drugging Scene From Western Localisation Of Fire Emblem Fates
@Einherjar "Imo, there is a difference between localizing stuff so it is comprehensible and palatable and the removal of "offensive content"."
You are over simplifying it, what if something is only offensive to the secondary audience (the audience who had the media translated for them)? As in, its not offensive to the first audience, arguably , the main audience, but just the secondary one? Are you removing offensive content or are you making sure your original intent isn't misinterpreted because it doesn't translate to the other audience?
Re: Nintendo Removes Infamous Drugging Scene From Western Localisation Of Fire Emblem Fates
@edhe Nope, and you should actually know the most due to your avatar hint.
Re: Nintendo Removes Infamous Drugging Scene From Western Localisation Of Fire Emblem Fates
@tsukipon Everyone just gets attached to it because its an "offensive" subject, but things gets change all the time without a whimper because they don't translate properly.
Here is a perfect example for everyone, what is this(this example is from an actual localization of a game)?

Re: Nintendo Removes Infamous Drugging Scene From Western Localisation Of Fire Emblem Fates
@Aurumonado Actually, you just recognized the reason for the change in it self. Its intent was not that, people misrecognized what was intended, it was remove or changed to meet the audience misrecognition. Not all concepts or ideas translate perfectly over to different cultures, so they get changed or removed because this.
Re: Nintendo Removes Infamous Drugging Scene From Western Localisation Of Fire Emblem Fates
Here we go again with the localization issue again, Localization /=/ censorship (it can, but it doesn't intrinsically mean this).
As others have pointed out, the scene simply does not make the same connection with Western audiences as it does with Eastern audiences. People need to stop forgetting that by you, being a westerner, make different connections and have different thoughts to what people will perceive in the East or any other area. Take that knowledge, and it expand it to creating something, if a scene is interpreted in a non intended way in a different audience, do you change it to suit how they interpret things? Is that censorship? Or recognizing your audience?
Re: Nintendo Share Value Continues to Improve as Investor Confidence Grows
@MrPuzzlez That is part of the solution, but represents the problem Sony had, it does an utter crap ton of other things that have been hemoraging money for years. That's why these past few years Sony has been cutting divisions and teams in an effort to focus on fewer things but be more competitive.
Re: Dragon Quest VII Set for a Summer Release in North America
Doubt it could be any later with the NX expected end of 2016.
Re: Nintendo Share Value Continues to Improve as Investor Confidence Grows
A spike is a spike and should be treated as such and is by no means a representative of the actual value of the stock. Point is, Nintendo stocks will be going up the end of this year , but this is not that, this is the Japanese stock market bouncing back.
Re: Nintendo Share Price Rebounds Along With Japanese Stock Market
It will keep declining until the NX rears its head, its like this with every major game/tech company. New product comes out and it goes up and up and up, then declines until a new business venture announcement , favorable sales figures, or some other product incorporates some technology from the other company. Otherwise it's down down down with random bumps from rumors or general market news.
Re: Bayonetta 2 to Have a Standalone North American Release on 19th February
I hope this is a sign that the Wii U will see some of its more expensive games a second production run, LOOKING AT YOU PIKMIN 3!
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Can Exploit Its Rich History With More Remasters
I would love a proper remaster of both Zelda Seasons games, perhaps also including that third one that was never finished.
Re: Nintendo Download: 31st December (North America)
@Lizuka I would think this week would be weak as anything because its been two major Holidays and everyone takes off these two weeks.
Re: Video: Get a Closer Look at Genei Ibun Roku #FE Gameplay and GamePad Usage
I have no idea whats going on in many of these trailers, but, this has a great style and look to it. That alone is enough for me to keep an eye on it.
Re: Rumour: A Class in Bravely Second is Supposedly Being Censored for the Western Release
This is just localization being localization, nothing new here except it being actually reported on.
Just out of curiosity, what gives one the right to weigh in on if a culture should be offended or not if one doesn't belong or really know anything about the culture?
Re: Nintendo Life Weekly: Huge Pokémon Reveal Next Month, Arguably the Rarest Nintendo Game, and More
@Megumi Honestly, I would love a new Pokemon Pinball.
Re: Nintendo Life Weekly: Huge Pokémon Reveal Next Month, Arguably the Rarest Nintendo Game, and More
@mjc0961 Enjoyed X & Y over Omega/Alpha personally.
Re: Amazon Lists Pokémon Red, Yellow And Blue At 10 Bucks A Pop
@mjc0961 You do realise that pokemon is the most faked game around, if you think those $7 cartridges are real, good luck
If you took the time to actually go to eBay you will notice there is a stark price difference between the real and fake ones, real carts average higher.
Re: Amazon Lists Pokémon Red, Yellow And Blue At 10 Bucks A Pop
@SebTheGuy Nope, not at all http://videogames.pricecharting.com/game/gameboy/pokemon-red
Pokemon games hold their value over nearly every other game series. Everyone complaining about price should see what they actually go for.
Re: Monster eShop Maintenance to Run Through Most of 2nd November
Starting the upgrading for Nintendo Account is my guess.
Re: AeternoBlade 2 Confirmed for the 3DS eShop
Played the demo, wasn't a big fan. But if they build up on it , might be worth looking into.
Re: Editorial: It's Far Too Soon to Go Download-Only, and Physical Retail Still Matters
I expect we will first be seeing a different type of physical medium first before digital only is the thing. If we are not to get rid of physical then physical needs to evolve so it can update just like digital. Then, if I uninstall the game, reinstalling it will result it being the most up to date version before uninstall, not the release version.
Re: Online Battles Coming to Dragon Ball Z: Extreme Butoden in Japan
I will buy this if it has online.
Re: Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate Passes Four Million Global Sales
This is most likely the reason for no announcements for MHX. They are still getting plenty of sales in USA and Europe
Re: Yo-Kai Watch 2DS Bundle Coming To North America On November 6th
Makes perfect sense
Re: North America's Next Splatoon Splatfest is a Battle of Art and Science
Break the cycle, focus on science
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m1s2NFOGyg
Re: Monster Hunter Stories Will Bring Its Own Brand of Turn-Based Battling to 3DS
Its capcom so its a complete crap shoot if it will see a western release
Re: Production Of Shovel Knight amiibo Is Being Handled Entirely By Yacht Club Games
The more I think about it the more I realize that Amiibo's (at least now) are a kick at developers to bring games over to 3DS and Wii U. Here you have a product that has an established base that wants these products, you make a decent game and it does well, you can make a third party Amiibo, effectively allowing the dev to dip again with the product they made.
Re: Ace Attorney 6 Confirmed to be Headed to 3DS
Come on Physical Release!
Re: Future Of Trine Series In Doubt Following Negative Reaction To Third Outing
@IAmDeclanJay I would love to see portable versions of Trine, think they would do well with their 3 player aspects.
Re: Nintendo Download: 6th August (North America)
DBZ Demo is out, you just have to search for the game and get it from there in the Eshop. Its not listed in the demo section for some reason.