The_Nintendo_Expat

25 dollars for what I'm assuming is a flat piece of cardboard that you have to fold yourself. could've been just free for subscribers upon request. (but Nintendo hasn't done much to foster this kind of good will with fans in a very long time.)

good games speak for themselves, don't need all this fluff.

save the money from these directs, replace them with a 50 dollar price announcement and watch the people line up to purchase. too late.

@sixrings

TBH I feel the same way but I think we are both going to have to accept that not everyone is playing at the same level and that's OK ✌️👍

it bothers me that people (especially Nintendo) insist that children are bad at games just because they themselves were/are, though. easy games bored me to tears as a child.

I have zero objectivity with this game, because it was my very first game, in 198X, introduced by my grandfather, and we played it over and over again until we finally beat it, and then we beat it over and over again. I was about 4. (I miss you every day, Grandpa.)

given that, here's my question:

"There's a lot here that feels a bit outdated by today's standards (from a 40-year-old game? Never!),"

what are the "lots" of things that feel outdated about this game? I'm really curious. because to me, this is a perfect game, and the only things "outdated" about it are the high challenge level, real penalties for game overs, and obv the old style graphics. ✌️ I'm curious what a much younger player sees as outdated besides those facts.

Thanks for the article! it was very amusing reading the few similarities and many differences in our experiences with this game! ✌️👍❤️

looks ***** horrible. I feel like Luke Wilson waking up in the future and Nintendo is the first thing I see.

@PinderSchloss

I agree with you, and I'll add: my income probably isn't "above average" but it's decent. I can afford 70-80 dollar and even 450 dollar things, that are worth it. In addition, videogames are important to me and Nintendo has historically been the important games company.

in other words, my business was theirs to lose. making less interesting games and hardware at increasingly higher prices is a good strategy if that's what they are trying to do.

@coolioam

it's not as hyperbolic as it may sound. I'm barely interested in anything Nintendo has done in years, and now they've put even less interesting games behind a massive 450.00 + 80.00 pro-con paywall, and are trying to normalize 80 dollar games. I don't recognize my former favorite games company anymore, and I'm ready to let them go. ✌️

I completely forgot this series existed and I had no idea there were so many games! I love all the vintage Megaman representation on switch 👍

Oh, Nintendo. You've lost my business.

I think another way of celebrating Virtual Boy would be to make better sequels to some of its good games.

I've played enough virtual boy for one lifetime personally.

@MysteriousMudkip

"if i remember correctly, the game that added switch mouse support was hypnospace outlaw, which came after stardew"

either I'm missing something essential about how mouse compatibility works on switch or that doesn't make sense. ✌️

switch has always been mouse compatible. I always for some reason assumed I could hook up a mouse to my switch and play stardew any time I wanted, this whole time 🤔

@GrailUK

IIRC Lufia on SNES had a "summon helper" system. ✌️

EDIT - I googled it. it was Lufia II, they were called "capsule monsters," they had elemental traits and there were 7 of them. the game came out almost exactly 1 year before Pokemon in Japan and about 2 and a half years before in the west.

games like Prince of Persia 3D end up on "worst games" lists for stuff like this (among other things lol.)

@Tom-Massey

I can see your points, and agree to various extents.

honestly, going in I thought "I don't envy this reviewer." it's tough.

It almost calls for multiple scores, one for the game content and one for the "package." the review format as it stands really works better for new games, as standalone releases. but, that's not your fault and "it is what it is," to a certain extent.

obviously you've put a lot of thought and work into this, and at the end of the day, that's all I can ask! we appreciate your candor, and thoroughness in your replies.

thanks, Tom!

patents?

make interesting hardware and games, please.

I haven't played this game but it sounds like almost everyone would be at least a little happier with fewer double damage dealing enemies.

at the risk of sounding ableist, I keep my controllers next to my console, and I walk up there when I want to play videogames.

@Pak-Man

I agree!

therefore, all the reviewer had to say, was "let's get this out of the way right off: the Bubsy games are not good, technically."

then, the rest of the review could be about the compilation/package, which honestly is the only reason to review a release like this in the first place

@Suketoudara

completely agree.

this site regularly commits this sin, even sometimes having people who don't like an entire genre review games in that genre.

I mean really, what is the point? just don't review it then.

EDIT -

judgemental statements like this are gross:

"This, friends, is a stark reminder of the strength of nostalgia, an evocative sensation that can stir the heart and cloud the memory."

how does the writer know what is in the mind of a bubsy fan or anyone else? he doesn't. many of these fans probably remember these games rather well, and either like them anyway, or like them for their own reasons.

I found this review somewhat distasteful. and I can't stand bubsy lol.

And thus, the legend of "pre-nerf Silksong" is born.

I can't vote because I haven't played this game yet, but given the news that the game will updated/nerfed, it seems like at least one of the answers should be or include something like "too hard - bring on the nerfing!"

these are 5 essentially anti-nerfing poll answers, but the article is generally pro-current difficulty, as it is. perhaps intentional?

looks Zwei worse than the original.

updates/news like this really pour cold water on my interest in a game, for whatever reason.

didn't they work on this game for like 7 years? didn't they do testing before release?

I agree with others above: it seems like the review for a nostalgia-targeted compilation like this should be focused on emulation quality, completeness, extra features, menu design, et al. Anything but the games themselves (which aren't irrelevant but don't we have decades- long history of these games getting 4/10 type scores? what's the point of another?)

how about ports of these masterpieces, rather than inferior remakes?

@Rentaro

here, here! unfortunately I have now arrived at the position that I personally don't believe they have the talent or the desire to make the games I've been hoping for for years (...decades 💀) now.

@Rentaro

"Wave Race [...] how has Nintendo managed to ignore that game?"

if you believe the commentariat, it's because Mario kart is so popular/profitable they had no choice but to not release another new racing game for 10+ years.

(a new Fzero is top of my list, followed by Wave Race and excite[bike] ✌️)

@Kraven

"I’ve seen a lot of reviews that have said the game lacks originality in its gameplay. Despite reading this, I don’t see how it’s an actual issue. [...] 98% of games in this genre are the same."

I think the more cookie cutter games in a genre, the more imperative there is to stand out in some way ✌️

I feel the same way about metroidvanias these days. simply "being a metroidvania" used to be enough to stand out, but now with so many out there and more to come, most of them are just noise in the line for me. 👍

I didn't like descent when I played it on PC back in the day so I didn't think I'd like this... but I kinda do! played it for the first time the other day, keep coming back! but I still haven't beat the 2nd level 😂

I voted for the lesser of two evils again.

@Markatron84

LOL I never said I was above complaining 😅✌️

BTW I second your request for more filters, specifically I would like to be able to filter out "Rumour" but generally filtering by tag and keyword would be great 👍

-#Rumour -"complain" -"complaint" -"complainer" 😂✌️

EDIT - would I really though? I like to see the breadth of the discourse. I try not to even ignore ppl unless they just really aren't being intellectually honest or respectful. ✌️

@electrolite77

"Yeah I’m going off the actual launches."

as a sort of historian/spectator, I can respect that, but the regional launch is a lot more relevant to my actual/personal experience, while the "actual" launch is more theoretical/academic.

I didn't realize the SNES had a weaker launch in EU! kinda silly since it was later, right? there must be a story there.

I don't care about graphics, only optimization and design. Nintendo could come out with a new 16 bit console, and as long as the games were fun and ran smoothly, I'd support the hell out of it.

(In fact id squeal with delight and do cartwheels but that's beside my point 😂✌️)

here's hoping for some cool things in store for switch 2! (and a price drop maybe? incidentally the concept of a budget friendly "consolized" switch 2 seems even more logical in the S2 era than it did before. at say 300 USD I'd definitely buy it.)

@sixrings

it's complainers all the way down.

It was kind of upsetting to only click one console when I have so damn many 😂

@electrolite77

"SNES and N64 were great in terms of quality (Mario World, F-Zero, Mario 64, Pilotwings 64) but nobody would get away with launching with just two games now..."

in my country at least, the SNES launched with 5 games: SMW, F zero, Pilotwings, Gradius 3, and SimCity. This is the best launch lineup of Nintendo's history, and in the running for best ever (Dreamcast probably has it beat.)

other than that detail, I actually agree with you largely. I just happen to think A) that every other console was more interesting at a hardware level than Switch 2, which really helped the imagination to get excited about what was to come on that console, and B) that Switch 2 is a gigantic leap forward [I meant upward -ed.] in price compared to its predecessor, and 450.00 even in 2025 dollars (which are not really that much more available than <2020 dollars despite rising inflation) puts it into a "this better be something special" category, rather than a "well it's the new Nintendo, of course I'm buying it" kind of category.

OTOH if it had a new stellar mainline Mario game, a new Pilotwings game, a new f zero, a city builder developed and published by Nintendo, and (as long as we are being whimsical) an HD port of Gradius V, we all know that poll would be chock full of 9s and 10s. And, I'd have bought one day 1.

@Markatron84

I wasn't suggesting you were the only one ✌️

love this guy but if I play Silksong it'll still be with the "voice slider" all the way down because I find in game voice acting unbearable, particularly in games like this.

I miss when it was rare and special. MGS was a revelation, and then I just wanted all the games to STFU after that 😂

@Markatron84

the complaining about the complainers is far more annoying than the people complaining about the key cards. especially given that the key cards themselves are arguably an actual problem, and the complainers are not.

speaking as an outsider with no plans to buy a switch 2 presently. ✌️

@electrolite77

"I think there’s a lot of people failing to remember what most system launches are like"

almost every Nintendo launch has had at least one game that has been sufficiently exciting to justify purchase, hence I've bought (or asked for birthday/Xmas) almost every Nintendo system at launch since SNES until now.

I'm not saying they have all been incredible lineups but having lived through the SNES and Dreamcast launches for example I'm aware of how good it CAN be and I just can't unlearn it.

1-10 is a really weird scale for rating something like this. 3 answers (not enough games/average/blissfully happy or similar) would've given much clearer results. as it is, what is the difference between a 3 or a 4, or a 6 and 7? an essentially yes/no vote is split up literally 10 different ways with no distinction.

the "console games on a handheld" dream is dead, because what constitutes a "console like experience" is a moving target, a contemporary handheld (or "hybrid") will never catch up, and devs will never spend the money to make a separate "portable" version of their games again.

now, we have nightmares like GKKs as a fresh hell that I don't think any of us saw coming. and the worst of them (Ubisoft) is already making excuses why they "had to" go the high profit route (😢.) for you and me, the gamers. they had no choice.

can you imagine if MGS for GBC was a note for note recreation, running at 5fps, with GBCs resolution and color depth? of course they made a special new game for that console. and it was fantastic, and no one complained that it wasn't MGS for PSX.

I'm not buying it.

@Diogmites

do you still come around? I haven't seen you comment in a long time. ✌️

@Spider-Kev

"what about people who complain about people complaining who complaining who complain about still others complaining?"

consider them... complained about. 😎

@MCHuddle

"I think people just like it because it's cheap when compared to other games coming out this month."

I didn't like hollow knight personally but that's just silly 😂✌️ people have been anticipating this game for YEARS and they only learned the price a few days ago.

@IronMan30

"Why mention store fronts for other platforms on a Nintendo-centric site?"

because it is pertinent to the nature of the problem.

it'd be like the newspaper reporting that a house is on fire when the entire city is on fire. it's not "wrong" in the sense that a house is on fire, but it is "misleading" in the sense that the story is larger than that and there's a journalistic obligation not to mislead your audience.

OTOH there have been cases like heavy GTA 6 coverage on here where I commented that they went way beyond the scope of this site. ✌️ if the problem were ONLY with steam and not the eShop, and they were still reporting it here, I would completely agree with you.

@contractcooker

I guess we are just lucky they aren't running live ads in there 😬

@Dr_Awkward

"Just stop the complaining. It sounds like petulant, demanding toddlers."

you should probably keep complaining about the complainers 👍 I think it's working.

@PJOReilly

"I'm always on duty!" 🫡🚨

@abbyhitter

to be honest I hated it too. and I really hate the key art, which is incredibly one note and unimpressive to me.

it's only the overwhelming positivity that makes me hedge my critique generally. it's clearly "me.'