@jimi I think the issue here is that the assumption that digital purchasers are not informed. I know:
-I pay more for a digital download than for a physical copy -In (let's say) 10 years the infrastructure may not be there to recover old games -I cannot sell my digital game -I forfeit the chance that my game becomes super rare and valuable.
I also know that by buying digital, I am hurting the retail distribution sector that might leave us without games stores.
Despite this, I choose to buy digital. Others can disagree with my choice but I am not wrong or naive or missing something.
@Moroboshi876 I admit that I've gone a little crazy and bought around 60 games (all digital - something like 20 retail, 40 indies) for the Switch over the past year.
@jimi I think that pre change the gold coins were worthless. After the change, they have a cash equivalent value. The fact that the rate at which you are earning changed doesn't really matter if you assign zero value to them at present.
My example is that before my 2000 gold coins were worthless. They now become a £20 eShop credit. That's good, right?
@JaxonH OK. Understood. I actually preloaded Kirby and got 70 coins. Had I waited, this would have been 250. So there is an edge effect here. I suppose it is better than they honour "old" gold coins rather than launching another type of coin next month.
But to be honest, there is nothing to spend gold coins on. As it stands I value them as completely worthless. After the change, I'll have £20 of eShop credit and 5% off all subsequent software. I think this is a good move overall.
UK has never been Nintendo territory. It goes all the way back to the Sega Master System/NES rivalry. There also is a perception that Nintendo is just for "kids". Whatever! Personally, I find it hard to take the gaming scene in the UK seriously when (almost without fail) the top selling games are FIFA and CoD each and every year.
I have the Wii U version but was unable to finish it due to time. I will pick it up on Switch (actually I've already pre-loaded) so that i can play it on the train.
I think passing the Wii U milestone is just a psychological barrier that confirms Nintendo in on right track. It needed to do this in Year 1.
From now I don't really care whether it outsells the Wii, PS4, Xbox or 3DS - it just has to be a viable platform. And as these results demonstrate it certainly is.
Those Odyssey numbers are really very good. Great to see the Switch being a success. Splatoon 2 has surpassed Splatoon, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe will clearly outsell MK8. Xenoblade passing 1m in 4 weeks is great.
BTW I was so wrong about 1-2-Switch. Nearly 2m units sold is astonishing.
Only just came round to Kirby despite playing Nintendo since the NES. I have a huge appreciation of these games as my younger kids can play them as "entry level" platformers.
I love Planet Robobot and Kirby on the Wii. This will be a day one purchase for sure (I only haven't pre loaded as I know the kids will keep asking "when is it released?" )
@Angelic_Lapras_King I have absolutely learnt this lesson. I've been Nintendo first party only for too long... and never expected a drop within a month or two. Even the savings on NBA are very high.
@aaronsullivan personally I think the (free) coverage this will generate in the press means Nintendo Labo will have been a good return on investment even before a single set has been sold.
Do people seriously think Nintendo stopped working on the Virtual Console or Metroid Prime 4 for this? This is clearly a small project that Nintendo managed to get to market with how successful the Switch has become. Nintendo are clearly not abandoning hardcore gaming for cardboard.
As a Dad to a 10 year old boy, I know he will love this. We've bought a lot of these kind of educational toys and the price is always quite high. The quality of the software here seems to be much better than the competitors.
I really wish the Internet didn't get so jumpy each time an error or mistranslation occurs (especially as we know Nintendo won't be making these announcements in this way).
Also, I'm pretty sure that Nintendo's online offering is what we are currently playing. The longer they take to charge us, the better.
@AG_Awesome not sure. For me, a Netfix app would need to come with proper/integrated parental controls. E.g. a pre loaded Netflix/YouTube app without controls would make the Switch less appealing - I've had issues like this with smart TVs
@Dev Woolly World is a wonderful game. I 100% it and had more fun with this than any 2D platformer since the SNES. I am looking forward to Yoshi on Switch.
@SleeplessKnight Looking at the current sales Mario Kart 8 Deluxe will outsell Maria Kart 8 and Pokken DX will outsell Pokken. I suspect Hyrule Warriors and DKC will see a similar result.
Very much enjoyed it. It's great to see Kirby being so close. I am also optimistic for Mario Tennis. The last one was good at its core majorly let down by the main gimmick and a lack of content. We will see but this time it seems that both of these are rectified.
I will be rebuying Donkey Kong and Hyrule Warriors. The portability of the Switch has been a game changer and I am always up for buying quality Wii U ports.
So between today and E3 we have Bayonetta 2, Mario Tennis, Kirby, Hyrule Warriors and Donkey Kong in terms of Nintendo IP/exclusives. Seems like a decent first half of the year.
I do not know whether gaming addiction should be classified as a mental disorder.
But I do know that citing "common sense" is not good enough in any way. Provide peer-reviewed, independent research published in a reputable scientific journal.
These are crazy high numbers. If we take Nintendo at their word (i.e. 2.74m in March, 14m in 2017 and now 20m in 2018) this surpasses not just the Wii U but also the Gamecube and N64 in just 2 years and a month.
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Re: Review: Bayonetta 2 (Switch)
Got this pre loaded. I have it on the Wii U but will simply never finish it.
Being able to play on the go has transformed my gaming life.
Re: Nintendo Switch Titles Are Still Holding Their Own In The UK Charts
@GrailUK yes, this is true. The Switch has quite a number of "evergreen" titles in the UK charts.
Re: Nintendo Believes That The Switch Could Sell Beyond The Usual 5-6 Year Console Life Cycle
Yes, this can happen. The 3DS is 7 years old.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Version 1.3.0 Will Go Live Next Week
Cool. Still on my backlog
Re: Rejoice, Soon You'll Be Able To Use Your My Nintendo Gold Points On The Switch eShop
@jimi I think the issue here is that the assumption that digital purchasers are not informed. I know:
-I pay more for a digital download than for a physical copy
-In (let's say) 10 years the infrastructure may not be there to recover old games
-I cannot sell my digital game
-I forfeit the chance that my game becomes super rare and valuable.
I also know that by buying digital, I am hurting the retail distribution sector that might leave us without games stores.
Despite this, I choose to buy digital. Others can disagree with my choice but I am not wrong or naive or missing something.
Re: Rejoice, Soon You'll Be Able To Use Your My Nintendo Gold Points On The Switch eShop
@Kiyata we are not naive. Personally, I value the ease of access of digital games far in excess of any savings on purchase/resale.
Different strokes for different folks. That's all.
Re: Rejoice, Soon You'll Be Able To Use Your My Nintendo Gold Points On The Switch eShop
@Moroboshi876 I admit that I've gone a little crazy and bought around 60 games (all digital - something like 20 retail, 40 indies) for the Switch over the past year.
Re: Rejoice, Soon You'll Be Able To Use Your My Nintendo Gold Points On The Switch eShop
@JaxonH we are in complete agreement.
Re: Rejoice, Soon You'll Be Able To Use Your My Nintendo Gold Points On The Switch eShop
@jimi I think that pre change the gold coins were worthless. After the change, they have a cash equivalent value. The fact that the rate at which you are earning changed doesn't really matter if you assign zero value to them at present.
My example is that before my 2000 gold coins were worthless. They now become a £20 eShop credit. That's good, right?
Re: Rejoice, Soon You'll Be Able To Use Your My Nintendo Gold Points On The Switch eShop
@JaxonH OK. Understood. I actually preloaded Kirby and got 70 coins. Had I waited, this would have been 250. So there is an edge effect here. I suppose it is better than they honour "old" gold coins rather than launching another type of coin next month.
But to be honest, there is nothing to spend gold coins on. As it stands I value them as completely worthless. After the change, I'll have £20 of eShop credit and 5% off all subsequent software. I think this is a good move overall.
Re: Rejoice, Soon You'll Be Able To Use Your My Nintendo Gold Points On The Switch eShop
@Krull no, last week of March
Re: Rejoice, Soon You'll Be Able To Use Your My Nintendo Gold Points On The Switch eShop
@JaxonH honestly, I don't get the devaluing thing. I am able to take my current gold coins and get a discount right?
Re: Rejoice, Soon You'll Be Able To Use Your My Nintendo Gold Points On The Switch eShop
So this is basically a 5% off all digital sales. That's good. I buy all digital, so I value this kind of reward scheme.
Will my current balance be able to be spent? I have over 2000 gold coins.
Re: Switch Surpasses Wii U Lifetime Sales in UK, But Its Dominance Isn't As Strong As Elsewhere
@Equinox 6 of them here! Myself, wife and 4 kids. Making the Switch a "personal" console is making my wallet hurt.
Re: Switch Surpasses Wii U Lifetime Sales in UK, But Its Dominance Isn't As Strong As Elsewhere
UK has never been Nintendo territory. It goes all the way back to the Sega Master System/NES rivalry. There also is a perception that Nintendo is just for "kids". Whatever! Personally, I find it hard to take the gaming scene in the UK seriously when (almost without fail) the top selling games are FIFA and CoD each and every year.
Re: Video: Feast Your Eyes on Bayonetta 2 on Switch Compared to Wii U
I have the Wii U version but was unable to finish it due to time. I will pick it up on Switch (actually I've already pre-loaded) so that i can play it on the train.
Re: Video: A Speedrunner Has Completed Super Mario World In Under A Minute
Not a fan of these kind of exploits.
Re: Next Week's European Splatfest Is All About Gherkins
I would usually side with Marina but the gherk-out pun is very tempting.
Re: Word-Based Puzzle Platformer Typoman Is Heading To Nintendo Switch This Month
Got this on Wii U but didn't love it. The concept sounds great but something was just a little off.
Re: Nintendo Releases Stunning Third Quarter Financial Results, Confirms Switch Sales Have Overtaken Wii U
I think passing the Wii U milestone is just a psychological barrier that confirms Nintendo in on right track. It needed to do this in Year 1.
From now I don't really care whether it outsells the Wii, PS4, Xbox or 3DS - it just has to be a viable platform. And as these results demonstrate it certainly is.
Re: Nintendo Releases Stunning Third Quarter Financial Results, Confirms Switch Sales Have Overtaken Wii U
Dead on arrival!!!!
Those Odyssey numbers are really very good. Great to see the Switch being a success. Splatoon 2 has surpassed Splatoon, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe will clearly outsell MK8. Xenoblade passing 1m in 4 weeks is great.
BTW I was so wrong about 1-2-Switch. Nearly 2m units sold is astonishing.
Re: Review: Celeste (Switch eShop)
Got it downloading now... I did so on the back on this Steam review:
https://twitter.com/MDKII/status/956832934631178240
Re: Video: Brand New Trailer For Kirby Star Allies Shows Off 8 Playable Characters
@JohnnyC playing alone, it's a calm, fun 2D platformer. You may not lose a life through the entire game.
Personally I think the multilayer with younger kids is where the games shine.
Re: Video: Brand New Trailer For Kirby Star Allies Shows Off 8 Playable Characters
Only just came round to Kirby despite playing Nintendo since the NES. I have a huge appreciation of these games as my younger kids can play them as "entry level" platformers.
I love Planet Robobot and Kirby on the Wii. This will be a day one purchase for sure (I only haven't pre loaded as I know the kids will keep asking "when is it released?" )
Re: Nintendo Download: 25th January (Europe)
@Angelic_Lapras_King I have absolutely learnt this lesson. I've been Nintendo first party only for too long... and never expected a drop within a month or two. Even the savings on NBA are very high.
Re: Nintendo Download: 25th January (Europe)
I paid full price for WWE 2K18! What was I thinking?!?
Re: Nintendo Reveals The Top 30 Best Selling Digital Games on Switch in 2017
Oh dear. I own 18 out of the top 30
Re: UK Pricing For Nintendo Labo Is Confirmed
Well, I paid £60 for FIFA so I can't really complain about £60 for cardboard.
Re: Feature: Nintendo Labo Shouldn't Be A Big Surprise, Nintendo Is A Toymaker First And Foremost
Anyone else looking forward to the Nintendo Labo assist trophy in Smash?
Re: Nintendo Announces Labo, A Range Of Interactive DIY Toys For Switch
@aaronsullivan personally I think the (free) coverage this will generate in the press means Nintendo Labo will have been a good return on investment even before a single set has been sold.
Re: Nintendo Announces Labo, A Range Of Interactive DIY Toys For Switch
Do people seriously think Nintendo stopped working on the Virtual Console or Metroid Prime 4 for this? This is clearly a small project that Nintendo managed to get to market with how successful the Switch has become. Nintendo are clearly not abandoning hardcore gaming for cardboard.
As a Dad to a 10 year old boy, I know he will love this. We've bought a lot of these kind of educational toys and the price is always quite high. The quality of the software here seems to be much better than the competitors.
Re: Nintendo Announces Labo, A Range Of Interactive DIY Toys For Switch
When others zig, Nintendo zags.
Please Nintendo never change.
Re: Nintendo Is Announcing "A New Way To Play" Later Today
Bayonetta themed JoyCons confirmed!!!!!!
Re: Nintendo Keeps Changing The Nintendo Switch Online Service Launch Date
I really wish the Internet didn't get so jumpy each time an error or mistranslation occurs (especially as we know Nintendo won't be making these announcements in this way).
Also, I'm pretty sure that Nintendo's online offering is what we are currently playing. The longer they take to charge us, the better.
Re: Soapbox: Is Super Mario Odyssey the Best Mario Game Ever?
I honestly think it is
Re: Rumour: Another 2D Metroid Has Begun Development
I would be very surprised if Samus Returns wasn't being worked on for the Switch. It just makes too much sense.
Re: Sorry Netflix Fans, You Won't Be Watching Stranger Things On Your Switch Anytime Soon
@AG_Awesome not sure. For me, a Netfix app would need to come with proper/integrated parental controls. E.g. a pre loaded Netflix/YouTube app without controls would make the Switch less appealing - I've had issues like this with smart TVs
Re: Sorry Netflix Fans, You Won't Be Watching Stranger Things On Your Switch Anytime Soon
Weren't there reports of the Netflix app being 'ready to go'? Personally, I wouldn't use my Switch for Netflix but people seem keen.
Re: Yoshi For Nintendo Switch Could Be Heading To Switch In Time For The Summer
@Dev Woolly World is a wonderful game. I 100% it and had more fun with this than any 2D platformer since the SNES. I am looking forward to Yoshi on Switch.
Re: Nintendo Reiterates That It's Not Interested In Virtual Reality Or 4K Support
I don't care about VR or 4K resolution.
Gimme good games!
Re: Feature: Here's What Was Announced During The January 2018 Nintendo Direct Mini
@SleeplessKnight Looking at the current sales Mario Kart 8 Deluxe will outsell Maria Kart 8 and Pokken DX will outsell Pokken. I suspect Hyrule Warriors and DKC will see a similar result.
Re: Feature: Here's What Was Announced During The January 2018 Nintendo Direct Mini
@gatorboi352 long commute here. 3 hours a day.
Also my kids are older and they've claimed the TV.
Re: Feature: Here's What Was Announced During The January 2018 Nintendo Direct Mini
Very much enjoyed it. It's great to see Kirby being so close. I am also optimistic for Mario Tennis. The last one was good at its core majorly let down by the main gimmick and a lack of content. We will see but this time it seems that both of these are rectified.
I will be rebuying Donkey Kong and Hyrule Warriors. The portability of the Switch has been a game changer and I am always up for buying quality Wii U ports.
Re: Nintendo Direct Mini Is Happening Right Now
So between today and E3 we have Bayonetta 2, Mario Tennis, Kirby, Hyrule Warriors and Donkey Kong in terms of Nintendo IP/exclusives. Seems like a decent first half of the year.
Re: Nintendo Direct Mini Is Happening Right Now
This was a great Direct. It tells us what to expect up to E3 and it is pretty good. I will double dip for DKC TF.
Mario Tennis is looks good. Here's hoping it's packed with content.
Re: Splatoon 2 Pits Action Against Comedy in Global Splatfest Next Week
Marina
Re: Nintendo Switch Is The Fastest Selling Console In US History With 4.8 Million Units Sold
@Kentula to be clear. My post was not serious.
Re: Nintendo Switch Is The Fastest Selling Console In US History With 4.8 Million Units Sold
Dead on arrival.
Nintendo to go third party.
Do these people know that the Switch has no games?
Re: ESA Attacks World Health Organisation's Decision To Classify Gaming Addition As A Mental Disorder
I do not know whether gaming addiction should be classified as a mental disorder.
But I do know that citing "common sense" is not good enough in any way. Provide peer-reviewed, independent research published in a reputable scientific journal.
Re: Nintendo President Aims for 20 Million Switch Units To Be Shipped Next Year
These are crazy high numbers. If we take Nintendo at their word (i.e. 2.74m in March, 14m in 2017 and now 20m in 2018) this surpasses not just the Wii U but also the Gamecube and N64 in just 2 years and a month.
Dead on arrival!