I love my Switch and will get Switch 2, but nothing will ever beat Steam’s library or prices. 99% of all quality games are available on Steam. Literally Nintendo, Vanillaware, and Epic are the only companies not putting games on Steam.
One look at the Metacritic spread between platforms and you can clearly see the Switch version is the weakest link. The game is fine on pretty much all other platforms. Such a shame. Maybe some patches (or Super Switch/Switch 2) can help.
Great game. Funny I saw this article and immediately wondered if it released on Steam and sure enough, it did! Add another to the Steam Deck for me but absolutely get this for Switch if the performance holds up upon its release!
@huupawel I would point out that I am mentioning the Steam Deck OLED experience, which IMHO has a better screen than any Switch screen and can run at 90 frames vs. the Switch’s 60 (or in the case of Contra, 30). There is no tinkering needed for Contra and really any game that’s Deck verified. Giving the user the choice to tinker, however, is why games tend to release first on Steam, and by the time it releases on Switch, may be significantly cheaper. It does appear that others agree in here but i respect the differing opinions.
I love my Switch so much but man, the Steam Deck has pretty much killed all the performance issues I get with Switch ports. Reviews like this, take the cons away as they aren’t existent in other ports, and you add a good 1 or 2 points to the review score. You just don’t have to worry about these issues on the Deck. The Switch 2 can’t come soon enough.
EDIT: I also want to add that at the time of this post, the game is getting on average at least 8/10 on other platforms, per OpenCritic and Metacritic. The Switch version and its performance issues are holding down the overall game on OpenCriitc because they do not separate scores like Metacritic. Imagine how many times you might have overlooked a game using a site like OpenCritic because of low Switch review scores.
I honestly wonder how many games I planned to get for Switch that I backed off on because of poor Switch versions. I now have a Steam Deck, upgraded to OLED, and I’m running into games that have none of these performance issues.
I learned about this game on SwitchUp upcoming games video. I check the games on the weekly lists to see if they previously came out on Steam and this was one of them and it scored well, so I had my eyes on this one.
It is disappointing to see Switch versions of games suffer like this. Furthermore, the game is on sale on Steam just as the Switch version releases at full price. I fortunately have a Steam Deck so I know which version I’m going to get but it sucks this seems to keep happening.
We are in interesting times fam. I have been checking to see what franchises are missing on the Switch. With the Batman games now coming, the Tomb Raider reboot games are literally the last major franchise missing on Switch. With the Lara Croft games coming, maybe there’s some hope.
Can you guys think of any other major franchise missing on Switch that’s reasonable to release on the platform?
SpawnWave did a poll about which version its viewers were going to purchase and while PS5 won over Switch by about 2-to-1, it was on-par with Xbox and PC. Small sample size but that’s still really good actually and may explain why WB decided to create a Switch version. Personally I’m getting the PC version but may buy the Switch version so I can play with my friends.
@Ryu_Niiyama I recently looked at the top 35, 50, and 100 games on PlayStation 4 and man, the Switch is absolutely killing it. Literally the only games not on Switch at the Take Two games, EA games, and first/second party games. Tomb Raider and Batman also aren’t on Switch but feel they are only a matter of time.
Wow, this is shocking! Especially after how well True Colors performed on Switch. Did they use FSR? Different team? I guess I’ll pick these up on Steam Deck instead.
@Capt_T that’s the thing….the game runs at 60 fps, the drops seem to be CPU-related. I’ll see if capping the frame rate does anything but I feel like it’ll still drop to 15 fps for those same asset loading reasons
@PtM I started playing this game on Steam Deck and oooff, man, I'm running into some performance issues. It seems to run 60 fps but drops down to the 10s, I think likely due to loading in assets. I'm working out trying to get it right.
@Diogmites I'm getting it on Steam Deck after seeing the performance problems, however, if Steam Deck is not an option for your NintendoLifers, PLEASE, get this game on Switch!
@Serpenterror we’ll see though generally due to the nature of PC hardware, as I recently learned (35+ year console gamer, 0 PC experience before the Steam Deck), it may be a while. It truly is running current-gen games decently. I’m personally interested in handheld PC devices that hook up to en eGPU, kind of like how the Switch works when docked, but much better of course due to the video card. I hope Nintendo one day can do something similar.
Fellow Switch gamers, the Steam Deck has changed my life. I don’t ever have to worry about these type of situations ever again. I’ll still support my first party titles though!
Really disappointed that the game only runs at 30 fps after playing the demo on Steam Deck on 60 fps with ultra settings. I did buy the Switch version too.
I love my Switch to death. Have hundreds of games for it. I also got the Steam Deck recently. Let me tell you what: having a Steam Deck erases all the pain and anguish I get when I hear a Switch port “needs more time”.
I think this is one of those games that has truly messed up my feelings about my beloved Switch. I was going to buy the game on the Switch at $29.99 despite no gyro aiming. I also am fortunate enough to have a Steam Deck, but because I've built my collection of games up so nicely on Switch, as long as performance is solid, I'll still get the Switch version of a game even if the Steam Deck version is 60 fps vs. Switch 30 fps. Switch I feel is better with both battery and stability. But I was curious about seeing if/how gyro aiming works on Steam Deck, so I was willing to double dip on this game if necessary. From the Steam Store, the game was $29.99, and I was like ok, cool, fine, I'll do it this one time, then something told me to look at Fanatical to see if it was on sale and yep, sure enough, it was $9.99 on that store. I was willing to overlook the 30 fps vs. 60 fps, and the resolution, but now it's 70% off, AND yes, gyro controls work great on Steam Deck. I'm wondering if this is going to keep happening, where the Steam version performs better overall, is way cheaper, and SteamOS overriding dev omitting gyro controls, is going to make the Steam Deck the preferred way to play.
I have an Odin and while that’s my go-to for retro games, I also have a Miyoo Mini which is an incredible micro Game Boy-inspired system that plays up to PlayStation and is out now. I highly recommend the Miyoo Mini. Also the RG351V NintendoLife previously reviewed.
I checked out the video and it is a pretty nice, has the look and feel of the Game Boy Color. I like it!
@moodycat I love me the hell out of SwitchUp. Mark and Glen are fantastic. The one thing that bugs me about their reviews is I feel they are too soft on criticizing games. They routinely score games 15-20 points over the consensus. In fact I don’t know if they have ever scored games below the consensus. At the same token, I’ve run into my disagreements with NintendoLife’s reviews as well (MLB The Show scoring below any console version on PlayStation despite being on par with PlayStation 3/PlayStation 4).
EDIT: I’m watching the SwitchUp review, it seems to be running fine. I wonder if some of the technical issues are resolved with a day one patch.
@Vyacheslav333 there’s just no way these games are coming to Xbox and not Switch. There is no deal to keep it off Switch. Hopefully we find out this month. If not, we’ll I guess I can get it on Steam Deck.
Seeing the comments, I love it! I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many “no way this isn’t coming to Switch” consensus beliefs. I sure hope we are all right.
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Re: Super Slick Roguelike 'The Rogue Prince Of Persia' Finally Dashes Onto Switch 2 Next Month
Also called the GabeCube
Re: ARK: Ultimate Survivor Edition Lands Switch 2 Update With Evolved Frame Rate And Resolution
What an amazing comeback for this game on Switch!
Re: Feature: 32 Games We're Dying To See On Switch 2
I have most, if not all these games on my Steam Deck and most run fine. I hope any of these games get ported for people only with a Switch 2.
Re: Switch 2 Dock Supports VRR After All, But It Doesn't Actually Work With Console
Man I would love for someone to make an adapter to allow me to dock both my Steam Deck and Switch 2 in the same dock. That would be amazing for me.
Re: Take-Two's "Longstanding Relationship" With Nintendo Seemingly Set To Continue
At least it’s not unprecedented
Re: Nintendo's Switch 2 Announcement Reportedly Impacted Steam Deck Sales
I love my Switch and will get Switch 2, but nothing will ever beat Steam’s library or prices. 99% of all quality games are available on Steam. Literally Nintendo, Vanillaware, and Epic are the only companies not putting games on Steam.
Re: Capcom Intends To Continue "Re-Activating Dormant IPs"
Henshin-A-Go-Go, baby!
Re: Mini Review: Chernobylite Complete Edition (Switch) - Ambitious, But Not A Great Fit For Switch
Maybe a Switch 2 patch will fix some of the technical issues. Or just get it on Steam Deck for that experience.
Re: Review: Yakuza Kiwami (Switch) - A Decent Port Of An Ambitious, Frustrating Game
I’ve played through Yakuza 0 and Yakuza Kiwami. They are fantastic games worth playing. This review score perplexes me.
Re: Switch Online Offering Trio Of Game Trials
Offering multiple different games at once is smart. Gives a little variety.
Re: The Entire Tales Of Kenzera: Zau Team Has Been Put On Redundancy Notice
Zau is a good Metroidvania. Not sure what else the team could have done here. I hope they continue receiving funding.
Re: Best Power Rangers Games, Ranked - Switch And Nintendo Systems
@Spider-Kev oh ok. That makes sense.
Re: Best Power Rangers Games, Ranked - Switch And Nintendo Systems
Great list, but it’s missing the best Power Rangers game of all, the Game Gear game.
Re: Switch Online's Latest N64 Release 'Perfect Dark' Appears To Have Some Emulation Issues
I didn’t even know this game was decompiled. I just tried it on the Steam Deck and I’m in heaven
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes
One look at the Metacritic spread between platforms and you can clearly see the Switch version is the weakest link. The game is fine on pretty much all other platforms. Such a shame. Maybe some patches (or Super Switch/Switch 2) can help.
Re: Tropical Open World Adventure 'Tchia' Glides Onto Switch This Summer
Great game. Funny I saw this article and immediately wondered if it released on Steam and sure enough, it did! Add another to the Steam Deck for me but absolutely get this for Switch if the performance holds up upon its release!
Re: Review: Contra: Operation Galuga (Switch) - Does The Series Proud, But Best Played Elsewhere
@huupawel I would point out that I am mentioning the Steam Deck OLED experience, which IMHO has a better screen than any Switch screen and can run at 90 frames vs. the Switch’s 60 (or in the case of Contra, 30). There is no tinkering needed for Contra and really any game that’s Deck verified. Giving the user the choice to tinker, however, is why games tend to release first on Steam, and by the time it releases on Switch, may be significantly cheaper. It does appear that others agree in here but i respect the differing opinions.
Re: Review: Contra: Operation Galuga (Switch) - Does The Series Proud, But Best Played Elsewhere
I love my Switch so much but man, the Steam Deck has pretty much killed all the performance issues I get with Switch ports. Reviews like this, take the cons away as they aren’t existent in other ports, and you add a good 1 or 2 points to the review score. You just don’t have to worry about these issues on the Deck. The Switch 2 can’t come soon enough.
EDIT: I also want to add that at the time of this post, the game is getting on average at least 8/10 on other platforms, per OpenCritic and Metacritic. The Switch version and its performance issues are holding down the overall game on OpenCriitc because they do not separate scores like Metacritic. Imagine how many times you might have overlooked a game using a site like OpenCritic because of low Switch review scores.
Re: Review: GRIME Definitive Edition (Switch) - A Poor Port Of A Superb Soulslike Metroidvania
I honestly wonder how many games I planned to get for Switch that I backed off on because of poor Switch versions. I now have a Steam Deck, upgraded to OLED, and I’m running into games that have none of these performance issues.
Re: MLB The Show 24 Reveals "Home Run King" Vladimir Guerrero Jr. As Cover Star
It definitely should have been Acuña, but I understand he is the face of some mobile game.
Re: Review: Gordian Quest - An Engaging Deckbuilder, But A Poor Switch Port
I learned about this game on SwitchUp upcoming games video. I check the games on the weekly lists to see if they previously came out on Steam and this was one of them and it scored well, so I had my eyes on this one.
It is disappointing to see Switch versions of games suffer like this. Furthermore, the game is on sale on Steam just as the Switch version releases at full price. I fortunately have a Steam Deck so I know which version I’m going to get but it sucks this seems to keep happening.
Re: Hands On: The Tomb Raider Returns To A Nintendo System In A Promising Package
@Stegiand key word is ”reasonable”. First party Sony games can’t go on Switch.
Re: Hands On: The Tomb Raider Returns To A Nintendo System In A Promising Package
@Lordplops yeah, Fallout would have been nice
Re: Hands On: The Tomb Raider Returns To A Nintendo System In A Promising Package
@BrintaPap yeah you do have your EA games, which that’s EA’s poor decision, and Call of Duty is allegedly coming? Maybe?
Re: Hands On: The Tomb Raider Returns To A Nintendo System In A Promising Package
We are in interesting times fam. I have been checking to see what franchises are missing on the Switch. With the Batman games now coming, the Tomb Raider reboot games are literally the last major franchise missing on Switch. With the Lara Croft games coming, maybe there’s some hope.
Can you guys think of any other major franchise missing on Switch that’s reasonable to release on the platform?
Re: Persona 5 Tactica Used Persona Q Character Designs During Testing Phase
Wow, cuz I thought this game looked like Q
Re: Mortal Kombat 1 Kameo Fighters Announced Alongside Main Roster
SpawnWave did a poll about which version its viewers were going to purchase and while PS5 won over Switch by about 2-to-1, it was on-par with Xbox and PC. Small sample size but that’s still really good actually and may explain why WB decided to create a Switch version. Personally I’m getting the PC version but may buy the Switch version so I can play with my friends.
Re: Marvel's Midnight Suns On Switch "No Longer Planned"
Man, having a Steam Deck really muted the disappointment of this news.
Re: Video: Digital Foundry's Technical Analysis Of Crisis Core Final Fantasy VII Reunion On Switch
@valharian I was thinking the same thing. This port and how it was created really surprised me
Re: Four Sega Genesis / Mega Drive Games Have Been Added To Switch Online's Expansion Pack
Golden Axe? Pshhh, what about Goldeneye?
Re: Warframe On Switch Just Got A Cross Platform Play Update
Great game. Can’t wait for cross-progression
Re: Review: Ghost Song - A Potent Mix Of Metroid And Dark Souls, But Maybe Not On Switch
This is becoming a recurring issue on Switch. Hope we get an enhancement in 2023.
Re: Grab Your Torch, Alan Wake Remastered Is Out Now On Nintendo Switch
@Ryu_Niiyama I recently looked at the top 35, 50, and 100 games on PlayStation 4 and man, the Switch is absolutely killing it. Literally the only games not on Switch at the Take Two games, EA games, and first/second party games. Tomb Raider and Batman also aren’t on Switch but feel they are only a matter of time.
Re: Random: Valve's Steam Deck Can Now Run Game Boy Advance Cartridges
Paging Retro Game Corps and Bob Wulff
Re: Review: Life Is Strange: Arcadia Bay Collection - Strong Narrative Let Down By Poor Presentation
Wow, this is shocking! Especially after how well True Colors performed on Switch. Did they use FSR? Different team? I guess I’ll pick these up on Steam Deck instead.
Re: Feature: "No Man's Sky Will Never Run On That" - Sean Murray Talks Defying The Odds On Switch
@Capt_T that’s the thing….the game runs at 60 fps, the drops seem to be CPU-related. I’ll see if capping the frame rate does anything but I feel like it’ll still drop to 15 fps for those same asset loading reasons
Re: Feature: "No Man's Sky Will Never Run On That" - Sean Murray Talks Defying The Odds On Switch
@PtM I started playing this game on Steam Deck and oooff, man, I'm running into some performance issues. It seems to run 60 fps but drops down to the 10s, I think likely due to loading in assets. I'm working out trying to get it right.
Re: Review: Tunic - Old-School Adventuring With Nods To Zelda, Unforgiving And Ingenious
@Diogmites I'm getting it on Steam Deck after seeing the performance problems, however, if Steam Deck is not an option for your NintendoLifers, PLEASE, get this game on Switch!
Re: SNK Rules Out New KoF Games For Switch Due To System's "Technical Limitations"
@Serpenterror we’ll see though generally due to the nature of PC hardware, as I recently learned (35+ year console gamer, 0 PC experience before the Steam Deck), it may be a while. It truly is running current-gen games decently. I’m personally interested in handheld PC devices that hook up to en eGPU, kind of like how the Switch works when docked, but much better of course due to the video card. I hope Nintendo one day can do something similar.
Re: SNK Rules Out New KoF Games For Switch Due To System's "Technical Limitations"
Fellow Switch gamers, the Steam Deck has changed my life. I don’t ever have to worry about these type of situations ever again. I’ll still support my first party titles though!
Re: Illumination Website Updates Super Mario Movie Release Date To Holiday 2023
A delayed movie is eventually good….or something like that….
Re: Review: Cult Of The Lamb - Animal Crossing Goes Bad In This Satisfyingly Stressful Sim
Really disappointed that the game only runs at 30 fps after playing the demo on Steam Deck on 60 fps with ultra settings. I did buy the Switch version too.
Re: Hogwarts Legacy Release Date Announced, Just Not For The Switch
I love my Switch to death. Have hundreds of games for it. I also got the Steam Deck recently. Let me tell you what: having a Steam Deck erases all the pain and anguish I get when I hear a Switch port “needs more time”.
Re: Mini Review: Severed Steel - A Heart-Pounding FPS That Makes You Feel Like John Wick
I think this is one of those games that has truly messed up my feelings about my beloved Switch. I was going to buy the game on the Switch at $29.99 despite no gyro aiming. I also am fortunate enough to have a Steam Deck, but because I've built my collection of games up so nicely on Switch, as long as performance is solid, I'll still get the Switch version of a game even if the Steam Deck version is 60 fps vs. Switch 30 fps. Switch I feel is better with both battery and stability. But I was curious about seeing if/how gyro aiming works on Steam Deck, so I was willing to double dip on this game if necessary. From the Steam Store, the game was $29.99, and I was like ok, cool, fine, I'll do it this one time, then something told me to look at Fanatical to see if it was on sale and yep, sure enough, it was $9.99 on that store. I was willing to overlook the 30 fps vs. 60 fps, and the resolution, but now it's 70% off, AND yes, gyro controls work great on Steam Deck. I'm wondering if this is going to keep happening, where the Steam version performs better overall, is way cheaper, and SteamOS overriding dev omitting gyro controls, is going to make the Steam Deck the preferred way to play.
Re: This Game Boy-Inspired Handheld Is A Budget Answer To Modern-Day Retro Gaming
I have an Odin and while that’s my go-to for retro games, I also have a Miyoo Mini which is an incredible micro Game Boy-inspired system that plays up to PlayStation and is out now. I highly recommend the Miyoo Mini. Also the RG351V NintendoLife previously reviewed.
I checked out the video and it is a pretty nice, has the look and feel of the Game Boy Color. I like it!
Re: Review: Shadowrun Trilogy - A Fantastic Trio Utterly Let Down By Shoddy Ports
@moodycat I love me the hell out of SwitchUp. Mark and Glen are fantastic. The one thing that bugs me about their reviews is I feel they are too soft on criticizing games. They routinely score games 15-20 points over the consensus. In fact I don’t know if they have ever scored games below the consensus. At the same token, I’ve run into my disagreements with NintendoLife’s reviews as well (MLB The Show scoring below any console version on PlayStation despite being on par with PlayStation 3/PlayStation 4).
EDIT: I’m watching the SwitchUp review, it seems to be running fine. I wonder if some of the technical issues are resolved with a day one patch.
Re: Feature: Need More Turtles After Shredder's Revenge? You Should Check Out These Underrated TMNT Gems
@Serpenterror how did this game not make this cut? It the best one!
Re: Tactics Ogre: Reborn Leaks, But Only On PlayStation For Now
Like Persona, this is likely coming to Switch and like Persona, possibly at the Nintendo Direct
Re: Persona 3, 4, and 5 Seemingly Confirmed For Everything But Switch
@Vyacheslav333 there’s just no way these games are coming to Xbox and not Switch. There is no deal to keep it off Switch. Hopefully we find out this month. If not, we’ll I guess I can get it on Steam Deck.
Re: Persona 3, 4, and 5 Seemingly Confirmed For Everything But Switch
Seeing the comments, I love it! I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many “no way this isn’t coming to Switch” consensus beliefs. I sure hope we are all right.