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@-wc- Oh I agree, wages haven't kept up with inflation which certainly does erode purchasing power. However electronics and most technology is the one thing that today is relatively cheaper than in the 1990's. TV's, laptops, desktops, and for the most part video games are still cheaper today than they were in the 90's, even if you calculate in the erosion of purchasing power. Housing, transportation, healthcare are all much more expensive now than they were both in real dollars, inflation calculated dollars, and purchasing power dollars. So one could argue that due to housing being so expensive that it makes affording gaming harder, but gaming itself is still cheaper now.

No one will ever convince me that at a time when games were $50 to $60 each with much less content and minimum wage was $4.25 and a much bigger percentage of Americans actually earned minimum wage that gaming was cheaper than it is now. I hear the argument that gaming is becoming a luxury category now, if it's a luxury category now then I'd argue it always has been. Would I rather earn $20 at McDonald's now and pay $449 for a Switch 2 or $4.25 an hour at McDonald's in 1991 and pay $199 for a SNES. If you do the math you'll see who had to work longer to buy their system and look at what they're getting. That's 22.5 hours of McDonald's work today for a Switch 2 and all the technology it has or nearly 47 hours of McDonald's work in 1991 for the SNES and the technology it had at the time. It's obvious to me what's the better deal.

@8bit-Man It's actually cheaper than the Super Nintendo I asked for as a kid when adjusted for inflation. I had to wait several years after the SNES released to get one because $199 to my family in the early 1990's was a ton of money and they couldn't afford to get me one for Christmas or my birthday. I'm luckily in a better position and bought my 8 year old a Switch 2 on launch day.

Inflation sucks, but it's a fact of life. Gaming today is NOT more expensive than it was in the past, in fact its cheaper. Star Fox on N64 was $59.99 at most retailers in 1997, that's about $125 in today's money. Star Fox on Switch 2 $59.99 ($49.99 if you pre-ordered at Walmart or Amazon). Indie games didn't really exist so we didn't have great games in the $20 or less range. We didn't expect hundreds of hours of content for a $60 price tag, we were happy with what we got. Right now is probably the best time ever to be a gamer. Any parent complaining about a $450 Switch 2, just needs to do a little research and maybe look at the competition. The Switch 2 is reasonably priced.

Splatoon Raiders theme next?

I agree they should more often do cups that allow you to unlock themes that you've missed, it's been a while since I remember this being done. I know the FOMO is greater when you can't easily get it again at a later time and a cup to win a past theme you missed would be pointless to the diehards that have all the themes, but I'm only missing like 3 themes so I just need a few more please.

@LinktotheFuture Noobs Want to Live is the only game I can think of that got delisted without warning and eventually came back 2 years later. I'm hoping Hellbrella comes back after it was on the eshop for just 10 days before disappearing, that's got to be a record. However in this case with Cruis'n Blast I'd imagine it's gone for good.

Not enough improvements to justify a full price upgrade (no upgrade path) purchase, especially with the fact its a game key card. Sega cheaped out and I won't be giving them a dime for this release.

@metaphysician Exactly. It's silly that people complain that the 3DS was better at backwards compatibility than the Switch 2 is. Well of course it was, the 3DS had original DS hardware architecture, so it played those games natively. As you said for obvious reasons that was not going to happen with Switch 2. So Nintendo literally developed a custom software system and it works with roughly 99% of the approximately 5,000 Switch 1 games without issue. That's actually really impressive yet some people whine about the 1% of games that have a color palate issue or audio issue that has to be ironed out. Complaining about a favorite game not working at all or being in an unplayable state is certainly understandable, but the hate from some people who clearly don't understand the amount of work put into the backwards compatibility of the Switch 2 is kind of infuriating.

I find it laughable that the price is a point of contention for anyone. Seriously Walmart and Amazon had it physically for $49 if you pre-ordered, it's still $49 if you go digital. You guys do realize that the original Star Fox 64 was $59.99, 29 years ago, right? That's $125 in today's money, and for LESS content than this version of the game is giving you. To put it in perspective in 1997 I made OVER minimum wage at $6.25 an hour, so nearly 10 hours of pre-tax income to buy Star Fox 64. What does the average McDonald's worker make nowadays? Like $15+ per hour, so you can get the better, more content, improved graphics, more multiplayer modes version of Star Fox for a little over 3 hours of McDonald's pay, but it's too expensive. Wow people have seriously gotten cheap.

@FortniteJ Anyways Nintendo didn't implement 100 percent software emulation due to the hardware differences between the Switch and Switch 2 and the fact that traditional software emulation would require the Switch 2 to mimic the Switch consoles hardware entirely in software which would cause the CPU and GPU to work extremely hard and cause extremely poor battery life in handheld mode. Therefore Nintendo did the only thing they could do and engineered a middle-ground solution. The Switch 2 translates and decompiles the original game data in real-time as you play. This "simultaneous translation" allows older games to run smoothly on the new hardware architecture without burning through the battery, but can allow some issues to arise.

So they didn't do a "terrible job", they literally put a ton of time and effort into it, and continue to do so to this day. They could've implemented full Switch emulation, which would've negated the issues that are arising, but the Switch 2's battery life while playing Switch games would've been drastically compromised (like an hour instead of 5).

@FortniteJ "I remember perfect backward compatibility on Wii U regarding Wii games, digital physical, all of them worked properly..."

Never played in wide-screen?

"Because the Wii U’s virtual Wii (vWii) forces a strict 16:9 widescreen signal, games designed for 4:3 screens get stretched out, and games without native 16:9 support will have forced black pillarbars or letterbars."

Not quite 100% perfect.

@HammerGalladeBro There were some minor audio glitches but the game was otherwise fully playable. Now the audio glitches are fixed.

@ferryb001 The issue with Pizza Tower is just a color pallette issue where the color of the Noise’s TV isn’t completely yellow like how it was on PC and Switch 1. I believe other than that the game runs fine.

@Lizuka Oh in that case it's your preference and if you plan on keeping your subscription.

@Lizuka For under $7 the BotW upgrade is well worth it. Not only do you get the locked 60fps, dynamic 1080p resolution (with upscaling to 4k docked with a TV that supports it), and faster loading times. You also get the Hyrule notes with the companion app which are pretty awesome and something I never see anyone mention. You gain the ability to deposit and/or withdraw weapons to the companion app, an absolute game changer, no more making tough choices while out in the wild over which weapon to get rid of to make room for a high damage halberd you've found, or having to waste weapon slots for torches or korok leaves, now you can just stow them away until you need them later, or even send them to your future self in TotK, it's fantastic.

@FrylockJ Yet Astro Bot has never dipped lower than $39 (according to psprices.com) and it's coming up on 2 years old now. Damn you Sony for conditioning us, or maybe, just maybe, when company's (any of them not just the big N) have a hit game on their hands they can charge what the market will accept.

I'm wondering if Hellbrella is going to get added to this list or if it will be coming back to the US eshop, it's still available in Europe. That was one of the shortest release windows I've ever seen, the game was out like 10 days then disappeared from the eshop right when I was going to get it.

@Gavintendo It's too bad you only own Gato Roboto. If you owned Gunbrella as well, you'd get a discount on Dark Scrolls, I believe. Here in the US, at least for me, Dark Scrolls was $7.99 because I already owned both Gato Roboto and Gunbrella.

Hellbrella just disappeared from the US eshop before I had a chance to get it. I'm curious why.

@LastFootnote Wow that's unfortunate. I was wishing they had included a way to remap controls in the options, I like to use the right trigger as attack. But no pro controller support is a much bigger issue. I have faith it will be patched pretty quickly knowing this devs track record. Hopefully they include button remapping as well so I don't have to keep changing it within the Switch itself.

@Gavintendo I shouldn't have bought it either then considering I already paid for Gato Roboto and Gunbrella, but seriously though I do see why you'd be chapped. I don't understand why some developers do region specific offers like that, it only goes to infuriate people that cannot take part.

@SonnyBonds You will collect blue gems based on your score. After failing or completing a run you can use these at the hub to purchase permanent upgrades.

@Friendly I agree completely. I don't own any Xbox products, but I still hope games work and perform well on that system, it certainly doesn't harm me in any way if they do.

I was just taken aback by the overwhelming outrage against a game that hasn't even released yet and the pure speculation of so many people. The threads were overrun with negativity. A rare, "This game should be awesome." post, buried amongst posts of how it was going to be garbage because the Switch 2 is an underpowered turd that can't handle the game properly lol. The trolls were out in full force for sure and I probably did let it get under my skin a little, but I was as much surprised as I was angry. I think people have just gotten more brash.

@Friendly I'm not exactly fuming over it. A bit confused by all the hate and speculation. We will all just have to wait and see how the game performs after release, but there's really no reason for the bashing I was witnessing, both on the game, the Switch 2, and Nintendo. I'm used to the fanboyism some people have about their particular system or PC, but the negativity surrounding Space Marine 2 on Switch 2 before release was on a level I've never seen before, going back to the Sega vs Nintendo (Sega does what Nintendon't) days.

A lot of hate on good ol' Reddit surrounding a game that hasn't even released yet. People swore that Space Marine 2 could never be done on Switch 2 and now that it's confirmed for release they are already swearing it's going to run like garbage on the system because there's just no way Switch 2 can handle it. I wish I had their crystal ball, I'd get lottery numbers though, not look at how a future games going to run.

@MontyCircus I wish physical Stray owners were included in the Stray upgrade, that's a real oversight on the developers part. I guess I'm stuck with the Switch 1 version.

Spire Blast is fun, but a warning to anyone playing it. There is a random glitch that will completely reset your progress. I was using a Switch 2 in handheld with boost mode and pushed the plus button and chose exit to title screen and the game just completely reset. I was about 2 hours into the game, on level 30 with nearly 90 stars and this happened. I suggest just exiting the game via the home button and hoping it saved unless this gets patched. As fun as it was I won't be starting over immediately, 2 hours in is too far to immediately restart, although I will eventually go back to it because it's a nice relaxing physics based puzzle game.

How is Dark Scrolls flying so under the radar, it looks fantastic?

A bit leaner of a month than May was, but there's bound to be some surprises and May was packed (for me at least). Still looking forward to Starfox and Dark Scrolls.

@mikegamer Totally subjective, but $70 definitely isn't what it used to be. Was the original Super Mario Kart worth $55 in 1992, the equivalent of over $120 in today's money? I made $4.25 an hour in 1992, that's a lot of hours of work for some Mario Kart.

@Ryu_Niiyama dekudeals.com is the answer or the dekudeals app. You can wishlist as much as you want, it tracks prices, and it will send you alerts when games on your list go on sale if you want it to.

Almost forgot UPS should be delivering Yoshi in the next few hours. I imagine my 8 year old will put more hours into it than me, but I definitely plan on playing it.

I got and completed Slots & Daggers. Super fun game, but it was way too short (4 hours to 100% completion) and really left me wanting more content. I wishlisted R-Type Dimensions III for the inevitable sale. I'll probably get Cosmic Mirage at some point because I'm a big Shmup fan and it looks interesting with a pretty low entry price.

Now for the PSA. Avoid Sapphire Tempest, even at the sale price, heck even at a lower sale price. I'm a sucker for Vampire Survivor clones and this company has gotten me twice now, this game and Fairywood Survivors. I can handle some jankyness in my VS clones if they are fun, but zero meta progression and the games janky, ugh. Strongly encourage everyone to avoid both Fairywood Survivors and Sapphire Tempest. I'll personally be avoiding anything that company puts out unless I hear otherwise from a dozen sources first.

@Ganon821 Slots & Daggers is fantastic, but at roughly 4 hours to 100% complete it, it's barely a palette cleanser. I loved it don't get me wrong, but it seriously left me wanting much more. I completed it 100% the day after I bought it then did a Mega high score run in Arena mode and there's literally nothing left to do. It's fun enough I might do another high score run, but there's not much reason when everything is unlocked and 100% upgraded.

Froggy Hates Snow is amazing. It is flying super under the radar, like so under the radar that you guys didn't even list it although it released today lol. It was kind of a stealth last second drop but I'm still surprised to not see it listed here.

Cool, just in time for my local minimum wage (Portland, Oregon) to increase to $16.30 an hour. So at the current $450 a Switch 2 will cost you 27.6 hours of minimum wage labor sans taxes. In 1992 I made $4.25 an hour and had to save up for a SNES. A SNES cost $199. That was over 47 hours of minimum wage labor sans tax. Keep crying me a river millennials and gen Alpha. I'm Gen X and know what expensive really means. Let me know when a new system costs you more than a minimum wage job pays you in an entire week and we'll talk. And don't start with this, well minimum wage is actually $7.25, because way less than one percent of the US population earns that little today.

Now hit me with the hate and comments about how I just don't understand today's economy.

Looks a lot like the makers of Suika Game saw Wakusei and said we can do that. I own the original Suika Game and Wakusei and have a ridiculous backlog so I may never pickup Suika Game Planet unless someone can explain to me how it is different from and/or better than Wakusei.

I'm a sucker for survivor like aka bullet heaven games so I was looking at Gunner-Chan, but with the ultimate survivor like, VS, costing significantly less I passed on it until a steep discount. I did pick up Xmas Survivors which came out the same day at a much more reasonable price yet somehow missed this list. It's fun enough for what it is but is obviously not a competitor to VS just a silly distraction.

MAUS was actually really fun for the cheap price, but very short and not being able to remap the buttons was a bummer.

@Hypn0Toad I'm in the same boat. I was actually shocked there was no paid or free upgrade pack to just upgrade the Switch version. I want my son to have it on his Switch, but I want the better framerate, smoother Switch 2 version for myself. I will likely just get the Switch 2 version also and possibly get my son the Switch version on steep discount.

I just can't understand why, other than trying to force a double purchase, that this publisher would do this. So many games from Brotato to Dave the Diver have been given free Switch 2 upgrade packs recently or they could've gone the Zelda, Hello Kitty Island Adventure route and charged $5 or $10 to upgrade the Switch version to the Switch 2 version; but offering no other option than the full purchase of both is pretty ridiculous in today's gaming market.

@Hypn0Toad Gameshare is the only known difference, but there is anecdotal evidence from reviewers that the Switch 2 version runs smoother.

Copied from an AI response, "If you purchase the original Switch version, you can play it on the Switch 2 via backward compatibility, but it will run as the Switch version, not the enhanced Switch 2 version. To experience the dedicated Switch 2 version with any potential enhancements, you must purchase the specific MARVEL Cosmic Invasion - Nintendo Switch 2 edition."

So there is NO upgrade pack to upgrade from the Switch version to the Switch 2 version and playing the Switch version on the Switch 2 seems like it may perform less optimally than playing the actual Switch 2 version on the Switch 2. So it seems this publisher is kinda forcing a double purchase if you want the best of both worlds for this game. If you want it on Switch 1 and you want the superior version on Switch 2 you will literally have to buy both versions. Seems like a lame choice in this day and age when games like Dave the Diver, etc. are getting FREE upgrades to the Switch version to enhance them for the Switch 2.

After the detaching joycon debacle and less than sublime dock extension experiences, I expressed my experience saying I had no issues and was enjoying the case only to be told I was a defender and part of the problem.

Anyway I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one enjoying the Killswitch, it's a super nice case. I got two of them, minus the screen protectors (I paid $2.25 for my tempered glass screen protectors, $8.99 for a 4 pack on Amazon) and the Killswitches look great on mine and my son's Switch 2's and make the console much more comfortable to hold.

This is my first dbrand product. I got two, one for my Switch 2 and one for the Switch 2 my wife and son share. The first thing I did after installing my Killswitch after reading about these issues was to hold my Switch 2 by one joycon and dangle it around, with my other hand underneath, ready to catch it when it detached; it never detached. I then tried the opposite side, and it never detached either. So I decided to dock the system and see what all that fuss was about and yes it isn't as seamless as the Nintendo dock, but it is far from difficult to dock it in the dock extension. So I'm just enjoying my dbrand Killswitch case. If I had to nitpick anything negative about it I'd say the glow in the dark skins that I got for my son's Switch 2 don't glow very brightly, not nearly as bright as in the pictures on their website, although the carbon fiber skins I picked for my Switch 2 look nice. Oh, and it does add considerable weight to the otherwise very lightweight system, which I guess is to be expected.

@rockodoodle "had" as in they no longer do? Glad I pre-ordered at $62.99 right away. Ten percent off on a brand new AAA game on a brand new system is better than no discount at all.

@contractcooker That's a good point about the auto brightness. I was indoors in a room with consistent lighting, so hopefully, it didn't change things too much. I did it with the auto brightness on just because the screen is actually too bright for my liking at full brightness without the auto brightness on, but I didn't think ahead that it would alter the battery usage slightly due to altering the brightness based on the light in my room.

I think the battery length times I got are still an OK indicator of what people can expect to get with a Switch 1 game vs. a Switch 2 power-hungry game with typical settings. Tweaking the settings definitely can add or take away a little chunk of time, though.

Wow, a lot of misinformation and conjecture in the comments.

In short the Switch 2 most certainly lasts far longer when playing Switch 1 games than when playing Switch 2 games. I've done limited testing, mostly to see why one of my family's Switch 2 systems was losing a considerable amount in sleep mode, and the other Switch 2 was not. With a Switch 1 game played on a Switch 2, I netted 5 hours and 18 minutes playtime, and with a Switch 2 game, I netted 2 hours 46 minutes from 100 percent to powering off. More detailed info is below.

The Switch 1 game was Vampire Survivors at full brightness (auto brightness checked on), medium volume, airplane mode on but wifi enabled on. The Switch 2 game was Cyberpunk 2077 exact same settings.

Clearly, Switch 2 games are pushing the system harder and using more battery for it. I haven't done battery test playing VS on either of my family's OLED's because frankly it's never been an issue, and with games like VS I don't expect it to be an issue on the Switch 2 either as it seems to be within an hour or two of the OLED. For graphically intense Switch 2 games a three hour session with no outlet and no portable battery might be really tough or impossible. So it's pretty much on par with the competition.

@Andee Only Lexar and the Gamestop branded express card come in a 1 terabyte variation at this time and they are both just under $200 at $199 and $189.

@PlatinumSeraph Not to be Mr. Buzz Killington but after the space the operating system takes up and the way gigabytes are calculated the actual available free space on a new Switch 2 is reported to be 221 gigabytes. So the math would be more like 221 divided by 22 equals approximately 10. So ten games the size of Mario Kart World will be able to be stored on a Switch 2 without any external memory.

Just a dbrand killswitch case on order and some ivoler glass screen protectors that arrived weeks ago. I'll wait until 2 terabyte Express cards are available for under $200 before I get more memory.

@Judal27 They'll take off a lot of trade-in value for stick drift. Why don't you just send it in to Nintendo for a 100% free repair before trade-in? It's super easy, takes about 7-14 days, and costs absolutely nothing not even shipping. Then you'll get full trade-in value.

@jesse_dylan Exactly right. I looked at Nintendo's list of Switch games that currently do not work on Switch 2 and I'd be giving up dozens of games if I sold off my Switch. The backwards compatibility is far from complete.

@TenEighty Yep, I remember Player's Choice and Nintendo Selects. I avoided them because I didn't like the ugly yellow banner across the top of the game case. Not really sure how that proves Nintendo didn't nickel and dime everyone. Those Player's Choice games were $19.99 in the early 2000's, adjusted for inflation that's nearly $40 which is the exact same price Nintendo puts their AAA games on sale for now at times like March 10th Mario Day, etc. I see no difference.

"...New Horizons had outsold every other entry in the series, and it has since gone on to shift a whopping 47.77 million copies..."

Yet 10% of the poll respondents have not purchased the game. Kinda weird.