@rjejr "Why did you cut it off, for space, or for misdirection?"
How is it misdirection when the sentence immediately before it clearly states that he's talking about 'reports'? Not my fault you skim-read the piece.
"Remember that article you wrote reviewing all of those portable screens that the Switch can be plugged directly into, but you reviewed them w/o actually plugging your Switch into them, you plugged your dock into them, which defeats the main purpose of plug in screens your Switch can plug into, like all of the pictures you posed showed?"
The fact that you bring up unrelated stuff like this up proves you're itching for some kind of confrontation, and I'm at a loss as to why that might be the case? But fine, here goes.
The images used in that round-up were supplied by the manufacturer and as I didn't have any means of taking decent photos myself at that point, I used them. I'd tested the screens with a dock because I'm super-cautious about that kind of thing, and the editor's note was added after you (and others) pointed this out. That's what's great about online journalism - you can amend and update pieces if anyone is confused or things aren't clear, which is what happened in that case. What relevance that has with the topic at hand I'm not sure.
"And besides, you start way more battles w/ me than I start w/ you. You know there is an Ignore button right?"
@rjejr "When I read this sentence fragment that was posted in the article I certainly thought a new Switch called "Switch Pro" was coming, but when you add in the 13 words that were cut, I suppose for space 😉 it sounds more like just another report on rumours."
Did you not read the bit before that?
"During Universal Display Corp's recent Q1 investors call (thanks, Spawn Wave), reports regarding the new Switch model using an OLED panel were referenced."
And as @bloodninja says, the original tweet is in there with the passage highlighted.
This is an investors call, too. I doubt they would reference anything in these calls that they weren't pretty sure about. Given the nature of the company's business, I think it's fair to say they would be able to make a judgment call on any reports relating to OLED panel orders.
@rjejr Nobody is adding up the home and handheld console figures - that's a leap you've made yourself. Because the Switch is both a handheld AND a home console, it can be included in the lists for both categories. That doesn't mean you then add those lists up to create a grand total - that was never suggested.
'500 million handhelds sold' includes the Switch, because it's a handheld console. Guess what? It's also a home console, so you can include it in that list, too. To deny it a place in either of those lists is to go against Nintendo's own stance that Switch serves both sectors.
@rjejr When Nintendo decided to create a unique system which could function as both a handheld AND a home console, I wonder if it realised it would break your brain this badly? 😂
@Razer You're missing the point here (and the Super GB example? That was an accessory, not a stand-alone system).
The Switch isn't designed to be one or the other, and as I said, the Wii U proves the company was thinking of ways to create a system that straddles both markets. Given that there are many people who only play docked and many who only play handheld, it would seem that Nintendo has been successful in that respect. If what you were saying is true, surely no one would just play docked?
You say that the Switch is primarily a handheld - why then is it hosting AAA home console titles, such as launch game BotW, which was also released on the Wii U? Why is it getting games which, normally, would be exclusive to a home system? Because it's no longer a question of being a 'home' or 'portable' machine - Switch is both.
It's a really, really simple concept when you think about it.
@Deppasois CDs from 2000? I feel old. I've got music CDs from the '80s which have disc rot. It's very much a thing. I sadly also got a few games (Mega CD mostly) that refuse to boot and I've kept them in immaculate condition.
@Razer How do you explain the fact that additional power is added when playing via the dock, then? If it was as simple as you say - a portable that connects to the TV and nothing more - then surely it would output the same resolution/frame rate to the TV as it does in portable mode?
It's clear to me that Nintendo has focused on hitting both markets with Switch, and that the Wii U was a 'first try' at creating a hybrid. The Switch is the full realisation of the concept - not just "a portable console that you can also play on your TV".
@rjejr There's nothing wrong with Ryan's post, because the Switch IS a home console. You can play it on your TV. It's also a portable console, because you can play it away from the TV. It's both.
Why does this continue to befuddle so many people? 🤷
@AnnoyingFrenzy I'm not shocked, because Nintendo has done something with Switch that has never, ever been done before - made a console that can compete in two different markets at once. Oh, and people like to put things into neat categories, and don't like it when they can't put a label on something, I guess?
@Malanta7 A home console that's just a home console cannot compete in the handheld market, though, because it isn't portable. So combining home and handheld sales to set them against the sales of the Switch doesn't make sense, because, unlike Switch, the NES / SNES / N64 etc were never intended to be portable.
The Switch does both, so it can be compared to both because it's intended to be both. That's the distinction here.
@Westlondonmist Exactly, it replaces both the Wii U ) and 3DS and puts all of Nintendo's eggs in one basket. I know people who only play handheld (I'm one of them, TBH) and I know people who only play docked (@antdickens for example). The Switch ticks both boxes, so it's fair to say it's competing in both the handheld and home console markets (the former of which it effectively has to itself these days).
I'm not sure why this topic is triggering people so much, to be honest! It's not a tricky concept to understand... get yourself a console that does both!
@rjejr Huh? We've never said it's strictly a handheld or home console - it's both, hence the term 'hybrid'. That's been Nintendo's messaging from the start, too (with the obvious exception of the Switch Lite).
@Friendly I'd certainly say that there's a big enough performance gap between Switch and the other systems to justify a trailer that shows what the Switch version actually looks like (I've played Apex Legends on Xbox One and Series X and they look so similar to me I couldn't really tell any difference).
And it seems EA / Nintendo think this, too, as the Nintendo version of that trailer runs at 30fps, not 60fps, while the resolution is 1080p (the other version goes all the way up to 4K). They've just done a lazy recode on the original footage in an attempt to get closer to what it would look like on Switch, but it's still false advertising.
And what difference does it make being free to play? The game is still designed to make money via IAPs, so a misleading trailer is only going to rope more people in and potentially earn more cash.
@Friendly Not sure what you watched but it sure looked like there was plenty of gameplay in the trailer to me? It's hardly a cinematic cutscene showcase, is it? It's all done in-engine, and lots of people who skip past the easily-missed disclaimer (I have young kids, they do this) is going to assume that it will look like that when they download it on their Switch (again, I have young kids, they do this!)
Given the huge performance difference between the Switch and the Series X and PS5 (and even the Xbox One and PS4), I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to ask a multi-million dollar company to get someone to take actual capture of the console in question for a trailer that's intended to rake in lots and lots of money. But maybe that's me being unrealistic.
@Tops It certainly wasn't an attempt to cast the game in a negative light; as I said, it's clearly just a bit of light-hearted fun.
Also, while the game looks like a Short Hike, the gameplay appears to be more akin to AC, hence the comparison (building a park, chatting with animal characters, collecting resources, etc).
Comparisons are handy when you're writing snappy headlines because they allow you to quickly communicate to the reader what a game might be like, based on a game they're almost certain to have experience with. That's why most sites (not just us) compare things to other things, be they games, movies, books or TV shows.
@LaytonPuzzle27 Kate isn't deleting them, our moderation team is. Your comments are getting flagged and reported by other members of the site for breaking our community guidelines.
@Tsusasi Thanks for the kind comments! We tend to ignore the negative comments on these stories because we've always picked out random and fun news pieces that are more about "Nintendo popular culture" than "Nintendo news". We'll keep doing them, too, because they're as much fun to write as they (hopefully) are to read!
@Pat_trick I think everyone needs to take your advice and chill. This was clearly, obviously intended to be a fun, light-hearted piece and I'm sure @nessisonett isn't alone in being slightly exasperated that there are comments which seem to have missed that. It's supposed to be a bit of fun, and the vast majority of people thankfully take it that way.
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Re: OLED Display Firm Mentions 'Switch Pro' During Its Q1 Investors Call
@rjejr "Why did you cut it off, for space, or for misdirection?"
How is it misdirection when the sentence immediately before it clearly states that he's talking about 'reports'? Not my fault you skim-read the piece.
"Remember that article you wrote reviewing all of those portable screens that the Switch can be plugged directly into, but you reviewed them w/o actually plugging your Switch into them, you plugged your dock into them, which defeats the main purpose of plug in screens your Switch can plug into, like all of the pictures you posed showed?"
The fact that you bring up unrelated stuff like this up proves you're itching for some kind of confrontation, and I'm at a loss as to why that might be the case? But fine, here goes.
The images used in that round-up were supplied by the manufacturer and as I didn't have any means of taking decent photos myself at that point, I used them. I'd tested the screens with a dock because I'm super-cautious about that kind of thing, and the editor's note was added after you (and others) pointed this out. That's what's great about online journalism - you can amend and update pieces if anyone is confused or things aren't clear, which is what happened in that case. What relevance that has with the topic at hand I'm not sure.
"And besides, you start way more battles w/ me than I start w/ you. You know there is an Ignore button right?"
Thanks for reminding me!
Re: Hardware Review: PowerA Fusion Pro - A Customisable Pro Controller Rival With A Steep Price
@BloodNinja I haven't had a chance to test that yet, but it wouldn't surprise me if it acts like a standard USB controller when using the cable.
Re: OLED Display Firm Mentions 'Switch Pro' During Its Q1 Investors Call
@rjejr "Now if you'll excuse me it's time for my daily damo battle."
Thing is, I get paid to have these little 'chats' you enjoy so much. What's your excuse?
Re: OLED Display Firm Mentions 'Switch Pro' During Its Q1 Investors Call
@rjejr "When I read this sentence fragment that was posted in the article I certainly thought a new Switch called "Switch Pro" was coming, but when you add in the 13 words that were cut, I suppose for space 😉 it sounds more like just another report on rumours."
Did you not read the bit before that?
"During Universal Display Corp's recent Q1 investors call (thanks, Spawn Wave), reports regarding the new Switch model using an OLED panel were referenced."
And as @bloodninja says, the original tweet is in there with the passage highlighted.
This is an investors call, too. I doubt they would reference anything in these calls that they weren't pretty sure about. Given the nature of the company's business, I think it's fair to say they would be able to make a judgment call on any reports relating to OLED panel orders.
Re: OLED Display Firm Mentions 'Switch Pro' During Its Q1 Investors Call
@sanderev You do realise Nintendo doesn't make every single component inside the Switch, right?
Re: Thanks To Switch, Nintendo Has Now Sold Over Half A Billion Handheld Consoles
@rjejr Nobody is adding up the home and handheld console figures - that's a leap you've made yourself. Because the Switch is both a handheld AND a home console, it can be included in the lists for both categories. That doesn't mean you then add those lists up to create a grand total - that was never suggested.
'500 million handhelds sold' includes the Switch, because it's a handheld console. Guess what? It's also a home console, so you can include it in that list, too. To deny it a place in either of those lists is to go against Nintendo's own stance that Switch serves both sectors.
Re: Thanks To Switch, Nintendo Has Now Sold Over Half A Billion Handheld Consoles
@rjejr When Nintendo decided to create a unique system which could function as both a handheld AND a home console, I wonder if it realised it would break your brain this badly? 😂
Re: Thanks To Switch, Nintendo Has Now Sold Over Half A Billion Handheld Consoles
@Razer You're missing the point here (and the Super GB example? That was an accessory, not a stand-alone system).
The Switch isn't designed to be one or the other, and as I said, the Wii U proves the company was thinking of ways to create a system that straddles both markets. Given that there are many people who only play docked and many who only play handheld, it would seem that Nintendo has been successful in that respect. If what you were saying is true, surely no one would just play docked?
You say that the Switch is primarily a handheld - why then is it hosting AAA home console titles, such as launch game BotW, which was also released on the Wii U? Why is it getting games which, normally, would be exclusive to a home system? Because it's no longer a question of being a 'home' or 'portable' machine - Switch is both.
It's a really, really simple concept when you think about it.
Re: Does Your Copy Of Pokémon Omega Ruby And Alpha Sapphire Still Work?
@Deppasois CDs from 2000? I feel old. I've got music CDs from the '80s which have disc rot. It's very much a thing. I sadly also got a few games (Mega CD mostly) that refuse to boot and I've kept them in immaculate condition.
Re: Thanks To Switch, Nintendo Has Now Sold Over Half A Billion Handheld Consoles
@GrailUK I'm actually amazed people still don't get that!
Re: Thanks To Switch, Nintendo Has Now Sold Over Half A Billion Handheld Consoles
@Razer How do you explain the fact that additional power is added when playing via the dock, then? If it was as simple as you say - a portable that connects to the TV and nothing more - then surely it would output the same resolution/frame rate to the TV as it does in portable mode?
It's clear to me that Nintendo has focused on hitting both markets with Switch, and that the Wii U was a 'first try' at creating a hybrid. The Switch is the full realisation of the concept - not just "a portable console that you can also play on your TV".
Re: Here's How The 'Blue' Switch Compares To The 'Purple' Game Boy Advance
@RupeeClock I know, right?
Re: Thanks To Switch, Nintendo Has Now Sold Over Half A Billion Handheld Consoles
@rjejr There's nothing wrong with Ryan's post, because the Switch IS a home console. You can play it on your TV. It's also a portable console, because you can play it away from the TV. It's both.
Why does this continue to befuddle so many people? 🤷
Re: Thanks To Switch, Nintendo Has Now Sold Over Half A Billion Handheld Consoles
@AnnoyingFrenzy I'm not shocked, because Nintendo has done something with Switch that has never, ever been done before - made a console that can compete in two different markets at once. Oh, and people like to put things into neat categories, and don't like it when they can't put a label on something, I guess?
Re: Thanks To Switch, Nintendo Has Now Sold Over Half A Billion Handheld Consoles
@Malanta7 A home console that's just a home console cannot compete in the handheld market, though, because it isn't portable. So combining home and handheld sales to set them against the sales of the Switch doesn't make sense, because, unlike Switch, the NES / SNES / N64 etc were never intended to be portable.
The Switch does both, so it can be compared to both because it's intended to be both. That's the distinction here.
Re: Thanks To Switch, Nintendo Has Now Sold Over Half A Billion Handheld Consoles
@Westlondonmist Exactly, it replaces both the Wii U ) and 3DS and puts all of Nintendo's eggs in one basket. I know people who only play handheld (I'm one of them, TBH) and I know people who only play docked (@antdickens for example). The Switch ticks both boxes, so it's fair to say it's competing in both the handheld and home console markets (the former of which it effectively has to itself these days).
I'm not sure why this topic is triggering people so much, to be honest! It's not a tricky concept to understand... get yourself a console that does both!
Re: Thanks To Switch, Nintendo Has Now Sold Over Half A Billion Handheld Consoles
@Malanta7 "If its a hybrid and not a dedicated handheld then you can't say its included in the handheld sales"
That's just it, you CAN do that because it's intended to straddle both markets - that's why it's called a hybrid!
Re: Thanks To Switch, Nintendo Has Now Sold Over Half A Billion Handheld Consoles
@rjejr Huh? We've never said it's strictly a handheld or home console - it's both, hence the term 'hybrid'. That's been Nintendo's messaging from the start, too (with the obvious exception of the Switch Lite).
Re: Random: Boy Has To Choose Between Nintendo Switch And Pizza, Chooses Pizza
@Tsusasi Thanks for the kind words!
Re: Scorbunny Is Joining The Pokémon Build-A-Bear Collection
@Quarth In my defence, I have three kids 😅
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Apex Legends: Legacy 'Gameplay Overview' Trailer Is Questionable
@Friendly I'd certainly say that there's a big enough performance gap between Switch and the other systems to justify a trailer that shows what the Switch version actually looks like (I've played Apex Legends on Xbox One and Series X and they look so similar to me I couldn't really tell any difference).
And it seems EA / Nintendo think this, too, as the Nintendo version of that trailer runs at 30fps, not 60fps, while the resolution is 1080p (the other version goes all the way up to 4K). They've just done a lazy recode on the original footage in an attempt to get closer to what it would look like on Switch, but it's still false advertising.
And what difference does it make being free to play? The game is still designed to make money via IAPs, so a misleading trailer is only going to rope more people in and potentially earn more cash.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Apex Legends: Legacy 'Gameplay Overview' Trailer Is Questionable
@Friendly Not sure what you watched but it sure looked like there was plenty of gameplay in the trailer to me? It's hardly a cinematic cutscene showcase, is it? It's all done in-engine, and lots of people who skip past the easily-missed disclaimer (I have young kids, they do this) is going to assume that it will look like that when they download it on their Switch (again, I have young kids, they do this!)
Given the huge performance difference between the Switch and the Series X and PS5 (and even the Xbox One and PS4), I don't think it's entirely unreasonable to ask a multi-million dollar company to get someone to take actual capture of the console in question for a trailer that's intended to rake in lots and lots of money. But maybe that's me being unrealistic.
Re: Watch Out Animal Crossing, Haven Park Is Headed To Switch
@Tops It certainly wasn't an attempt to cast the game in a negative light; as I said, it's clearly just a bit of light-hearted fun.
Also, while the game looks like a Short Hike, the gameplay appears to be more akin to AC, hence the comparison (building a park, chatting with animal characters, collecting resources, etc).
Comparisons are handy when you're writing snappy headlines because they allow you to quickly communicate to the reader what a game might be like, based on a game they're almost certain to have experience with. That's why most sites (not just us) compare things to other things, be they games, movies, books or TV shows.
Re: Watch Out Animal Crossing, Haven Park Is Headed To Switch
@JimmySpades Dude chill, it's a bit of fun.
Re: Rumour: Capcom Has To Pay Namco To Use The Name 'Street Fighter'
@Silly_G The source is Yoshiki Okamoto's YouTube video.
Re: Zelda Screenwriter Opens Up On How Much Fun It Was To Make The TV Series
@FiveDigitLP Yep, I can see the error I've made there - Eve was quoting what her brother had told her. I've updated the piece to reflect this.
Re: Zelda Screenwriter Opens Up On How Much Fun It Was To Make The TV Series
@Scapetti ...because people in their 40s aren't allowed to use modern phrases?
Re: Soapbox: Hurry Up And Release The Switch Pro Already, My Switch Is Dying
@norwichred It was reposted yesterday because the video is now included.
Re: Sony Survey Reportedly Asking Fans If They've Heard Of The Burnout Series
@locky-mavo Why would that come to Switch? 🤔
Re: It Looks Like 2D Fighter Arcana Heart 3: Love Max Six Stars!!!!!! Is Coming To Switch
@trueshred Can I point you in the direction of our community rules? Because you just broke them, and there won't be a second warning.
Re: Sony Survey Reportedly Asking Fans If They've Heard Of The Burnout Series
@KnightsTemplar I'd love a Takedown remaster. It was impossible to play that game without grinning like a fool. Amazing
Re: Netflix Releases Official Trailer For Fourth And Final Season Of Castlevania
Yes please.
Re: Nintendo Download: 29th April (Europe)
@PoundShopOrwell R-Type is a big release this week - I'm not sure I understand your comment? 🤔
Re: Random: Head Of Xbox Phil Spencer Still Has That Nintendo Switch On His Shelf
@Giygas_95 Our ads are targeted based on your browsing history.
Re: This Insanely Expensive Neo Geo Shmup Is Coming To Switch In Physical Form
@DrDaisy Yep, they are the pilots of the different ships in the game.
Re: Random: What Is This, A Game Boy For Ants?
@nhSnork Try fitting an OG GB in your pocket.
Re: Random: The Game Boy Has Finally Grown Up To Become The 'Game Man'
@Lordplops Of course! Fixed.
Re: Feature: Why Aerial_Knight Put His Name On His Game
@LaytonPuzzle27 Kate isn't deleting them, our moderation team is. Your comments are getting flagged and reported by other members of the site for breaking our community guidelines.
Re: Tetris Players Have Discovered A New Technique, And It's Sending High Scores Into Orbit
@mazzel No problem!
Re: Tetris Players Have Discovered A New Technique, And It's Sending High Scores Into Orbit
@mazzel Oh, I know - I wasn't suggesting the two were connected, I was just citing them as two indicators of success on the GB game.
Re: Random: Boy Has To Choose Between Nintendo Switch And Pizza, Chooses Pizza
@SlayerG Oops, I've updated the piece! Thanks!
Re: Random: Boy Has To Choose Between Nintendo Switch And Pizza, Chooses Pizza
@Tsusasi Thanks for the kind comments! We tend to ignore the negative comments on these stories because we've always picked out random and fun news pieces that are more about "Nintendo popular culture" than "Nintendo news". We'll keep doing them, too, because they're as much fun to write as they (hopefully) are to read!
Re: Tough Blow As Sonic Lost World Yoshi's Island DLC Gets Modded, No Longer 'Wii U Exclusive'
@kupocake YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT
Re: Hands On: The EverDrive GBA X5 Mini Solves The Only Real Issue We Had With The Original
@samuelvictor I've not checked them fully but every SMS game I've tried has worked no problem!
Re: Hands On: The EverDrive GBA X5 Mini Solves The Only Real Issue We Had With The Original
@The_Trooper49 That one was created by Game Boy Shack
Re: Hardware Review: 8BitDo Pro 2 - The Best Switch Pro Controller Rival Has Evolved
@shani Or perhaps two professional gaming sites simply came to the same conclusion?
Re: Back Page: An Interview With Luigi, The Late Mario's Brother And Business Partner
@Zach777 Thanks!
Re: Back Page: An Interview With Luigi, The Late Mario's Brother And Business Partner
@Zuljaras I said "everyone"
Re: Back Page: An Interview With Luigi, The Late Mario's Brother And Business Partner
@Pat_trick I think everyone needs to take your advice and chill. This was clearly, obviously intended to be a fun, light-hearted piece and I'm sure @nessisonett isn't alone in being slightly exasperated that there are comments which seem to have missed that. It's supposed to be a bit of fun, and the vast majority of people thankfully take it that way.
Re: Back Page: An Interview With Luigi, The Late Mario's Brother And Business Partner
@Zach777 It's a bank holiday in the U.K. so the staff are all off. The pieces that have gone live today were scheduled in advance.