For everyone claiming this is obvious, it's worth noting that, like any consumer product, Switch has evolved over its lifespan. This process was touched upon in Nintendo's recent developer interview about the OLED model, and how even common components change over time as production systems improve and evolve. There are numerous cases of consumer products (phones, tablets, TVs, cars) getting parts changed which result in different performance - even when the company which makes it doesn't advertise it as such.
While we've known that the chipset would be the same, other parts - such as memory - might also have changed, and this can sometimes lead to slight gains in terms of memory access speed and load times. So, we felt that this was worth putting to the test.
@baconcow Apologies, there were a few frame rate drops in the Switch version which made me assume it was 30fps. I compared it side-by-side with the Series X version and that seemed to be smoothly for the most part, but it does seem to be aiming for 60fps on Switch, and I've added an editor's note to the review to reflect this.
@Joeynator3000 No, you can play Connected any time, but the 4-player mode is limited to Full Moon events, which take place at weekends. Usually, Connected mode is limited to 3 players, you see.
@Bret For the record, I've played it on PSVR and Quest 2, and while I agree it's the ultimate sensory experience in VR, being able to play it anywhere I want is a bigger concern for me personally.
@chardir I imagine that's an effect of the screen you're viewing the image on, cos there are no curved lines when viewed on my monitor, or on my laptop or smartphone. That kind of 'banding' does occur, though, when viewing at certain resolutions.
@RupeeClock "So there's this brief period where the target system will have all save data, except for the ACNH island?"
As I understand it, yes. The issue I had was that my daughter had my old system and started her own game of AC, which then wiped my island from the console, so I couldn't transfer.
Had she not done that, I imagine the island would have remained and I could have transferred it over when I realised it hadn't been ported during the standard system transfer.
@Brink A very good point. To be honest, I hadn't played the game for many months before transferring over to the OLED, so it had totally slipped my mind that it didn't support the data / cloud save transfer. I imagine there will be many others who perhaps haven't played in a while or simply aren't aware they need to do something slightly different.
@BloodNinja Even in death, a person's flaws are still flaws. Everyone has them, and acknowledging them (just as we acknowledge their positive points) isn't 'hate speech'.
So far the comments have been just the right side of acceptable, so please don't fan the flames and make them worse.
@Heavyarms55 (Sorry for the double-reply here, only just seen this other message)
"I'm sure we will, eventually, see a Switch Pro or Switch 2. I think Nintendo would be absolutely insane not to continue the line. But with the Switch OLED coming out soon, I wouldn't expect anything else for, at the VERY LEAST, a full year."
I agree with you 100% - I can't see the Pro model coming until at least the end of 2022, if not early 2023. Which is exactly why we're seeing reports of developers working on 4K dev kits, the dock being updated 'behind the scenes' and Nintendo working on upscaling tech. No one is suggesting the Pro is going to release next week - it's clearly some way off.
@Silly_G The idea is that you use clever tech (like that mentioned in the Nintendo patent) to upscale the image, so the console isn't actually producing a pure 4K signal. Point taken on the fact that the current Switch struggles to do 1080p a lot of the time, but by using upscaling systems a new Switch could output a 4K signal, for sure.
@Heavyarms55 Speaking for Eurogamer – who we work very closely with – I can assure you that isn't the case, at all. I know the news team there very well and I'm aware of how careful they are when it comes to backing up their reports by speaking to their own sources. You may famously recall that people were saying the same things when EG reported on the Switch / NX reports that it would be based on Nvidia tech and would feature removable controllers (reports we were also able to verify using our own sources).
I personally believe Nintendo is working on a 4K Switch, hence the reports of 4K dev kits, 4K functionality being built into existing products (like the dock) and Nintendo's recent patent for upscaling. I also highly suspect that Nintendo's plans for a 4K-ready Switch were impacted by the chip shortage.
Given that Nintendo has a history of iterating its hardware (look the GBA, DS and 3DS for example) I'm not sure why there's so much scepticism regarding this, but I can appreciate that many people are tired of rumours.
@Cia It wasn't released on the GBA, I can only assume they included it here as it's a (kinda) Nintendo exclusive? So it gets lumped in with the GBA games? I mean, I'm happy it's there if I want to play it, but I'd rather have had the PCE original
@rushiosan The N64 Castlevanias, while not fantastic, are still more interesting than Dracula X. The first Lords of Shadow isn't half bad, either, as long as you're not expecting a traditional Castlevania game.
Dracula X is terribly designed, removes all of the good stuff from the PCE original and has one of the most frustrating final boss battles in any Castlevania game - IMO, at least
@Richnj Because Scooby-Doo has always existed as an animated property. Mario is a video game series, and both the 1993 film and the new one are adaptations of the video game character. If Mario solely existed in the realm of TV / film, then you'd have a point.
@BloodNinja Turning off the visual effects setting makes the whole thing run much smoother. Like I said, I love the original, and I enjoyed this immensely.
@Spider-Kev But this isn't a reboot or a remake. It's just that both of these films happen to be based on the same IP. Like I said, no one called the LotR movies a 'reboot' of the 1978 LotR animated movie, because it wasn't - both are based on the same book.
@Spider-Kev A reboot suggest that the new movie has some link with the original, when in fact the only thing they have in common is the fact that they're based in the same (non-movie) series.
It's like saying Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings movies were a 'reboot' of the Ralph Bakshi 1978 animated movie. It's simply not the case. This is another adaptation of the Super Mario universe, but it's not a reboot of the 1993 film.
@Meteoroid It's noteworthy because it's the first time that an iPhone (which is a series of devices not famed for their stamina) has a bigger-capacity battery than the Switch.
@sanderev You understand that internal plans change? Like when Sega created two different versions of the Dreamcast before picking one to go into production? Does the fact that one of them didn't get made mean that it was a 'false' rumour? Of course not.
Just because we haven't seen Switch Pro yet doesn't mean that plans weren't progressing to produce one earlier than now. It's been reasoned that the success of the Switch - combined with COVID / parts issues - could have contributed to Nintendo shelving plans for more powerful hardware at this moment in time. Given how many sources were coming forward not so long ago - sources which were involved in the supply chain - we were confident enough to run the rumours.
Like I said, I feel our track record is good and we're more than happy to hold our hands up when rumours we've reported on prove to be false, but we're very careful about what rumours we do cover.
@sanderev I'd wait until the end of the Switch's lifespan before assuming the Switch Pro rumours are false.
Our track record on rumours is pretty decent; we've ignored a lot of rumours posted on other Nintendo sites because we either didn't trust them or our own sources didn't verify them.
@sanderev If you look at any area of journalism, protecting sources is commonplace. A source only gives you information in the understanding that they won't be revealed. Obviously, if the source is a random person you've never interacted with before then you're more skeptical, but our sources tend to be trusted individuals with a track record of being correct.
Whenever we report on rumours, we try to be as sure as possible about the source. In this case, we've heard from another source about GB / GBC coming to Switch, which is why we decided to cover Nate's report.
A site which posts nothing but false rumours isn't going to survive for very long, but skeptics is only natural and we've been here before - like when we reported on the Switch rumours prior to its reveal, for example.
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Re: Check Out These Adorable Super-Deformed Dark Souls Figures
@nessisonett YES
Re: Video: Analysing The Performance Of The Switch OLED Versus The OG Switch
For everyone claiming this is obvious, it's worth noting that, like any consumer product, Switch has evolved over its lifespan. This process was touched upon in Nintendo's recent developer interview about the OLED model, and how even common components change over time as production systems improve and evolve. There are numerous cases of consumer products (phones, tablets, TVs, cars) getting parts changed which result in different performance - even when the company which makes it doesn't advertise it as such.
While we've known that the chipset would be the same, other parts - such as memory - might also have changed, and this can sometimes lead to slight gains in terms of memory access speed and load times. So, we felt that this was worth putting to the test.
Re: Review: Tetris Effect: Connected - Mizuguchi's Masterpiece Finds Its Ideal Platform
@baconcow Apologies, there were a few frame rate drops in the Switch version which made me assume it was 30fps. I compared it side-by-side with the Series X version and that seemed to be smoothly for the most part, but it does seem to be aiming for 60fps on Switch, and I've added an editor's note to the review to reflect this.
Re: Review: Tetris Effect: Connected - Mizuguchi's Masterpiece Finds Its Ideal Platform
@Joeynator3000 No, you can play Connected any time, but the 4-player mode is limited to Full Moon events, which take place at weekends. Usually, Connected mode is limited to 3 players, you see.
Re: Review: Tetris Effect: Connected - Mizuguchi's Masterpiece Finds Its Ideal Platform
@BoFiS Yes, it has local play
Re: Review: Tetris Effect: Connected - Mizuguchi's Masterpiece Finds Its Ideal Platform
@Bret For the record, I've played it on PSVR and Quest 2, and while I agree it's the ultimate sensory experience in VR, being able to play it anywhere I want is a bigger concern for me personally.
Re: Random: Ever Wonder What Metroid's Samus Aran Would Look Like In Marvel vs. Capcom 2?
@OldManHermit Can you imagine?!
Re: Gallery: Nintendo Switch OLED Vs Standard Switch - The Key Differences In Pictures
@chardir I imagine that's an effect of the screen you're viewing the image on, cos there are no curved lines when viewed on my monitor, or on my laptop or smartphone. That kind of 'banding' does occur, though, when viewing at certain resolutions.
Re: Gallery: Nintendo Switch OLED Vs Standard Switch - The Key Differences In Pictures
@Bunkerneath I think the actual unit itself draws less power so it shouldn't get as hot as the original model over time, but don't quote me on that.
Re: Gallery: Nintendo Switch OLED Vs Standard Switch - The Key Differences In Pictures
@OorWullie Yes.
Re: Gallery: Nintendo Switch OLED Vs Standard Switch - The Key Differences In Pictures
@SenseiDje Refresh
Re: PSA: Please Don't Forget To Transfer Your Animal Crossing: New Horizons Island To Your Switch OLED
@RupeeClock "So there's this brief period where the target system will have all save data, except for the ACNH island?"
As I understand it, yes. The issue I had was that my daughter had my old system and started her own game of AC, which then wiped my island from the console, so I couldn't transfer.
Had she not done that, I imagine the island would have remained and I could have transferred it over when I realised it hadn't been ported during the standard system transfer.
Re: PSA: Please Don't Forget To Transfer Your Animal Crossing: New Horizons Island To Your Switch OLED
@LavaTwilight On the upside, I'm getting to experience the game all over again!
Re: PSA: Please Don't Forget To Transfer Your Animal Crossing: New Horizons Island To Your Switch OLED
@Brink A very good point. To be honest, I hadn't played the game for many months before transferring over to the OLED, so it had totally slipped my mind that it didn't support the data / cloud save transfer. I imagine there will be many others who perhaps haven't played in a while or simply aren't aware they need to do something slightly different.
Re: Dragon Quest Composer Koichi Sugiyama Has Passed Away
@BloodNinja The comment section is now closed.
Re: Dragon Quest Composer Koichi Sugiyama Has Passed Away
@somebread Just watched some footage on YouTube, I'm a sucker for '80s anime so I'll have to check this out!
Re: Dragon Quest Composer Koichi Sugiyama Has Passed Away
@somebread I've never heard of this series until now, and now I have to see it!
Re: Dragon Quest Composer Koichi Sugiyama Has Passed Away
@BloodNinja Even in death, a person's flaws are still flaws. Everyone has them, and acknowledging them (just as we acknowledge their positive points) isn't 'hate speech'.
So far the comments have been just the right side of acceptable, so please don't fan the flames and make them worse.
Re: Review: Metroid Dread - Quite Possibly The Best Metroid Game Ever Made
@clianvXAi My point was that the commentor was saying the game wasn't worth the score, so I assumed they'd actually played it.
Re: Review: Metroid Dread - Quite Possibly The Best Metroid Game Ever Made
@gojiguy When is your Metroid Dread review going live, by the way?
Re: Random: This 'Game Boy' Device Was Used To Steal Vehicles Worth £180,000
@themightyant The tech inside is worth £20,000. The case isn't.
Re: Teardown Suggests The Switch OLED Dock Is 4K 60fps-Ready And 'Future Proof'
@Heavyarms55 (Sorry for the double-reply here, only just seen this other message)
"I'm sure we will, eventually, see a Switch Pro or Switch 2. I think Nintendo would be absolutely insane not to continue the line. But with the Switch OLED coming out soon, I wouldn't expect anything else for, at the VERY LEAST, a full year."
I agree with you 100% - I can't see the Pro model coming until at least the end of 2022, if not early 2023. Which is exactly why we're seeing reports of developers working on 4K dev kits, the dock being updated 'behind the scenes' and Nintendo working on upscaling tech. No one is suggesting the Pro is going to release next week - it's clearly some way off.
Re: Teardown Suggests The Switch OLED Dock Is 4K 60fps-Ready And 'Future Proof'
@Silly_G The idea is that you use clever tech (like that mentioned in the Nintendo patent) to upscale the image, so the console isn't actually producing a pure 4K signal. Point taken on the fact that the current Switch struggles to do 1080p a lot of the time, but by using upscaling systems a new Switch could output a 4K signal, for sure.
Re: Teardown Suggests The Switch OLED Dock Is 4K 60fps-Ready And 'Future Proof'
@Heavyarms55 Speaking for Eurogamer – who we work very closely with – I can assure you that isn't the case, at all. I know the news team there very well and I'm aware of how careful they are when it comes to backing up their reports by speaking to their own sources. You may famously recall that people were saying the same things when EG reported on the Switch / NX reports that it would be based on Nvidia tech and would feature removable controllers (reports we were also able to verify using our own sources).
I personally believe Nintendo is working on a 4K Switch, hence the reports of 4K dev kits, 4K functionality being built into existing products (like the dock) and Nintendo's recent patent for upscaling. I also highly suspect that Nintendo's plans for a 4K-ready Switch were impacted by the chip shortage.
Given that Nintendo has a history of iterating its hardware (look the GBA, DS and 3DS for example) I'm not sure why there's so much scepticism regarding this, but I can appreciate that many people are tired of rumours.
Re: Teardown Suggests The Switch OLED Dock Is 4K 60fps-Ready And 'Future Proof'
@Heavyarms55 So Bloomberg made up the fact that it spoke to 11 different developers about the 4K dev kits?
Re: Check Out This Forgotten Donkey Kong Country Comic From The UK
@Mario500 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Burton
Re: The 'Book4Games' Range Is Expanding To Include Metroid, Zelda And Game Boy Designs
@CartoonDan Fixed! Thanks for the heads up!
Re: Review: Castlevania Advance Collection - Utterly Essential Thanks To Aria Of Sorrow
@Cia It wasn't released on the GBA, I can only assume they included it here as it's a (kinda) Nintendo exclusive? So it gets lumped in with the GBA games? I mean, I'm happy it's there if I want to play it, but I'd rather have had the PCE original
Re: Review: Castlevania Advance Collection - Utterly Essential Thanks To Aria Of Sorrow
@rushiosan The N64 Castlevanias, while not fantastic, are still more interesting than Dracula X. The first Lords of Shadow isn't half bad, either, as long as you're not expecting a traditional Castlevania game.
Dracula X is terribly designed, removes all of the good stuff from the PCE original and has one of the most frustrating final boss battles in any Castlevania game - IMO, at least
Re: Review: Castlevania Advance Collection - Utterly Essential Thanks To Aria Of Sorrow
@rushiosan You're right, it's actually much worse than that
Re: Former Mario Movie Star John Leguizamo Isn't Happy With The Casting On The New Film
@Richnj Because Scooby-Doo has always existed as an animated property. Mario is a video game series, and both the 1993 film and the new one are adaptations of the video game character. If Mario solely existed in the realm of TV / film, then you'd have a point.
Re: Review: Actraiser Renaissance - A Noble Attempt At Resurrecting The Godly 16-Bit Classic
@BloodNinja Turning off the visual effects setting makes the whole thing run much smoother. Like I said, I love the original, and I enjoyed this immensely.
Re: Konami Celebrates Castlevania's 35th With A 26-Disc Music Collection That Costs $250
@KingMike Ah, will fix that too! Thanks!
Re: Former Mario Movie Star John Leguizamo Isn't Happy With The Casting On The New Film
@Spider-Kev But this isn't a reboot or a remake. It's just that both of these films happen to be based on the same IP. Like I said, no one called the LotR movies a 'reboot' of the 1978 LotR animated movie, because it wasn't - both are based on the same book.
Re: Former Mario Movie Star John Leguizamo Isn't Happy With The Casting On The New Film
@Spider-Kev A reboot suggest that the new movie has some link with the original, when in fact the only thing they have in common is the fact that they're based in the same (non-movie) series.
It's like saying Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings movies were a 'reboot' of the Ralph Bakshi 1978 animated movie. It's simply not the case. This is another adaptation of the Super Mario universe, but it's not a reboot of the 1993 film.
Re: Former Mario Movie Star John Leguizamo Isn't Happy With The Casting On The New Film
@Spider-Kev Because it's an entirely new story. This isn't related to the 1993 version. A 'reboot' suggests it's using the same storyline elements.
Re: Konami Celebrates Castlevania's 35th With A 26-Disc Music Collection That Costs $250
@Drachma Gah, that's fixed now - apologies!
Re: Review: Actraiser Renaissance - A Noble Attempt At Resurrecting The Godly 16-Bit Classic
@BloodNinja Shame, you're missing out on a really neat update - which I say as a massive, massive fan of the original.
Re: Review: Actraiser Renaissance - A Noble Attempt At Resurrecting The Godly 16-Bit Classic
@Rambler Ah!
Re: Review: Actraiser Renaissance - A Noble Attempt At Resurrecting The Godly 16-Bit Classic
@Rambler https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/seminal
Re: Record Of Lodoss War: Deedlit In Wonder Labyrinth Is Coming To Switch This Year
@Matroska @Friendly No one is safe from the horror that is auto correct 😅
Re: Castlevania Advance Collection
@anoyonmus We're working on it as we speak.
Re: Random: Apple's iPhone 13 Pro Max Has A Larger Battery Capacity Than The Nintendo Switch
@Meteoroid It's noteworthy because it's the first time that an iPhone (which is a series of devices not famed for their stamina) has a bigger-capacity battery than the Switch.
Re: Random: A Rogue Space Particle Could Be Responsible For This Unsolved Super Mario 64 Speedrun Glitch
@Meteoroid Oof! @HamatoYoshi almost got you.
Re: Japan's Pokémon Centers Are Currently Closed Due To Ongoing State Of Emergency
Given that this thread has rapidly descended into chaos, comments are now closed.
Re: Starbreeze's "25 Million" Selling RPG Enclave Is Getting Resurrected On Switch
@Matroska I highly suspect that is what has happened here. I'll update the post when I hear back.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Will Expand Its Switch Online Service With Game Boy And Game Boy Color Titles
@PBandSmelly Sources don't like being mentioned - they stop talking to you when you do that.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Will Expand Its Switch Online Service With Game Boy And Game Boy Color Titles
@sanderev You understand that internal plans change? Like when Sega created two different versions of the Dreamcast before picking one to go into production? Does the fact that one of them didn't get made mean that it was a 'false' rumour? Of course not.
Just because we haven't seen Switch Pro yet doesn't mean that plans weren't progressing to produce one earlier than now. It's been reasoned that the success of the Switch - combined with COVID / parts issues - could have contributed to Nintendo shelving plans for more powerful hardware at this moment in time. Given how many sources were coming forward not so long ago - sources which were involved in the supply chain - we were confident enough to run the rumours.
Like I said, I feel our track record is good and we're more than happy to hold our hands up when rumours we've reported on prove to be false, but we're very careful about what rumours we do cover.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Will Expand Its Switch Online Service With Game Boy And Game Boy Color Titles
@sanderev I'd wait until the end of the Switch's lifespan before assuming the Switch Pro rumours are false.
Our track record on rumours is pretty decent; we've ignored a lot of rumours posted on other Nintendo sites because we either didn't trust them or our own sources didn't verify them.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo Will Expand Its Switch Online Service With Game Boy And Game Boy Color Titles
@sanderev If you look at any area of journalism, protecting sources is commonplace. A source only gives you information in the understanding that they won't be revealed. Obviously, if the source is a random person you've never interacted with before then you're more skeptical, but our sources tend to be trusted individuals with a track record of being correct.
Whenever we report on rumours, we try to be as sure as possible about the source. In this case, we've heard from another source about GB / GBC coming to Switch, which is why we decided to cover Nate's report.
A site which posts nothing but false rumours isn't going to survive for very long, but skeptics is only natural and we've been here before - like when we reported on the Switch rumours prior to its reveal, for example.