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@AverageGamer Well that's what I meant by casual, someone who doesn't many games apart from Pokémon and maybe a few other things. That's why I am genuinely surprised people are happy to drop 400 on a console solely for Pokémon.

Unless I have completely misjudged how much of a system mover Pokémon is that high price is not as off putting

@kal_el_07241 Hopefully the flock of folks getting a Switch 2 for ZA might give other games a try in a couple months especially since DK has a demo too

Genuinely surprised Switch 2 version is selling as much as it has given not only is it more expensive but Pokémon has a more casual fan base so I thought not many would get new console just for it.

Interesting to see how Nintendo plays with Gen 10 if they do like XY, SwSh and still go ahead and release a budget version of Switch 2 before it releases assuming next fall

@martynstuff Instinctively I push R in whenever the gauge fills lol so thanks for the tip not mega evolving will definitely make a difference I think!

Pro's:
Battle system is great
Models look fantastic
Music
Side Missions are a massive improvement over PLA
Mega mechanics being reworked
NPC dialogue
Interiors are great
Canari
Rooftop and obstacles are fun
Runs amazingly on Switch 2 and surprisingly okay on Switch 1
Story is okay but halfway through so lets see if it picks up
Most new Mega's are great some a bit goofy in execution though

Con's:
Rogue battles while fun are a bit too easy, think the player char shouldn't heal like PLA and would be more challenging if solo like Absol.
Wild zones are a bit underwhelming some more than others, instead of having so many would have preferred like one big on in each sector.

@B_Lindz That is blatantly false. SV became the second best selling games and they took a year out to make sure PLZA did not have the same performance issues, they have innovated every-game from SM onwards when in actuality it would have been much safer and boring if they stuck with the game play loops for the first 6 generations

@Araquanid That's because the dex is only 230 not 400 like SwSh or SV so having the Shiny Charm for just completing the dex is too easy, like in PLA you needed perfect research for it.

@AverageGamer Yup, half these people complaining probably wouldn't even play Pokemon if it looked like GTA 6 anyway. Internet nowadays is about farming for negativing and currently anything that is Nintendo or Pokemon is ripe for that.

Serebii had a go at someone who spread false info, said person admitted they were wrong but still left their tweet up because it has 127k likes...

Sadly this is where the internet is nowadays.

Is that 40% less than PLA of just Switch 1 sales or combined Switch 1 and Switch 2?

Anyway I am surprised the split was 50/50 almost! I was expecting Switch 1 to be like 60/40 or 70/30. Maybe Nintendo might not need a cheaper alternative for Gen 10.

@Dom_31 Approx how long did it take you?

@GrailUK I have seen these AAA comments a lot regarding Pokemon online and not sure people understand that GF are still a small studio they have like 200 employee's, CDPR have 3x that alone for example. Pokemon has never been a triple A experience so not sure why people are suddenly expecting so.

@slowpoke_tail I was expecting them to give a 5 or 6. NL have been super negative about the game since it was revealed heck just look at the tag line in this article. Not to say their criticisms aren't valid but if you go into a game with a certain mind set you will find yourself being more critical

Problem is Crossworlds is super expensive, like it was much cheaper me importing it from Japan. Not surprised many don't wanna drop 50-60 quid on it.

MKW is also expensive but obviously the name alone sells that

@jolteon23 Same here super curious too as Pokemon seems to have a more casual fanbase so not sure many people will get a super expensive console for a game available on the previous one too. I reckon the split will be 60/40 or 70/30 Switch 1 to 2.

That's why I feel like Gen 10 Nintendo have to release a budget Switch 2 lite or something like they did for Switch 1 before Gen 8 released (IIRC 2DS before Gen 6 too)

I remember when I gave up on video games during around 2012/2013 but still wanted to play Pokemon but if it weren't for the 2DS not sure I would have jumped in.

@nessisonett Why? Sonic Trilogy was great, Mario movie was for the most part pretty good, Detective Pikachu was good. Sure Minecraft movie was forgettable but its inoffensive. Zelda has the potential to be decent to good too (although I would have preferred that being animated)

@JohnnyMind Only concern is the website says you can only have 1 of each mega stone so I hope it isn't a case of them being key items that are attachable like PLA plates...

@RudyC3 Yup, to this day I have never paid full price for a physical 1st party Nintendo game, it seems the cost of wholesale price of games are low enough that retailers can lower asking prices and still make profit.

@JohnnyMind Ah same here I had credits with my usual retailer so got the Switch 1 version at a great price however I plan to buy the game digitally aswell on my JPN account for NS2 so that way I can trade starters between myself then I'll probably trade the game or gift to a friend.

I just hope mega stones can be traded too assuming we get the starter ones straight away

@ShadLink It's hilarious so much double standards when it comes to Pokemon like new Digimon has season pass DLC yet there was so much furore when they announced PLZA will have DLC next year.

BOTW/TOTK get praised to high heaven yet those games are the very definition of barren. You just have the same cut and paste animal or enemies but the majority time you are traversing the land it is just you in an empty field...

It's just internet brownie points to hate on GF & Pokemon, the fact SV became the 2nd best selling games tells you what the majority of people thought! Haters are always louder as they say.

@SillyG "half of the content missing" this nonsense again DLC is not cut content, according to Serebii all Pokemon DLC has had different directors PLZA will more than likely be the same. It's developed separately hence why it is additional content not cut content.
SwSh and SV had complete stories pre DLC it is not like they left a cluiffhanger forcing people to buy the DLC. Part 2 anyway PLZA will be the same.

Also you not wanting to own digital DLC is your prerogative but in this day and age there is no true physical releases, with updates and patches most game discs and carts are outdated

@JohnnyMind I can see two sides, it can be annoying to see discussions derailed by GKC but on the otherhand GKC are naturally disappointing.

I can't help but feel that GKC were meant for small publishers as way to get physical presence and is being abused by bigger publishers. In theory carts should become cheaper so hopefully we start seeing less GKC as we get a few years into Switch 2 life span.

@Pillowpants Fair point maybe people have didn't own a Switch 1 haven't realised it's cheaper buying a used copy of SW1 version and then upgrade. Or maybe people want the full Switch 2 Edition on the cart.

Be interesting to see what the % of Switch 1 and 2 sales will be for Pokemon & Metroid. Also I wonder if Nintendo would push a budget Switch 2 (lite or something) before Gen 10 like they did before Gen 8, given how expensive the Switch 2 is I feel like they may need to.

Also surprised many people are buying Switch 2 Editions of Zelda, isn't it much cheaper buying a used copy and then upgrade pack?

@hYdeks See if a game is a good & still holds up what does age have to do with it?

Plus people pay ridiculous amounts of money for retro games all the time and some of those games are several decades old.

If the original Wii games sky rocketed in price like GC games did during covid then I am sure most people will not being having this attitude

That said I do agree the price is high but I also understand why Nintendo have done what they have.

Frustrating I traded a bunch of old games over the summer for 3D All Stars but much like the reviewer said for them I have only played Sunshine on that thus far so may just keep that for that & 64 instead of trading it back in.

I think the advantage for Nintendo prices is games don't depreciate on Switch, like DK TF used is still worth way more than the Wii U version so one can always buy a first party Nintendo game knowing it's more or less still gonna worth the same in a few years.

@NintendoKnight NL has had an agenda against the game ever since it was confirmed to be in the city, there was an article moaning about the game when it got revealed on Pokemon day. I wouldn't be surprised if they give it a negative review.

It's also weird that all the comments are full of negativity when most of the previews have been nothing but positive, seems no one read or watched previews at all and made their minds up about the game already

Thankfully SV being the 2nd best selling game means the internet is nothing but an echoe chamber!

@FancyJehuty Gen 1 was a buggy mess and literally had game breaking elements, fast Mons always crit, Hyper Beam never recharged if it Ko'd a Mon etc, if it wasn't for nostalgia those games would have been damned a long ago.

Also about Gen 5 that is my point it was dated, the 3DS was gonna be the new console so when Gen 5 arrived the DS it was just too late. We finally got moving sprites but that end of the DS era.

In Gen 6 for example we were still had grid based movement it wasn't until Gen 7 when we finally had proper movement, but again much like Gen 5, Gen 7 came towards the end of the 3DS life

So let's not act like Pokemon games were technical marvels in the past when they clearly weren't.

"especially when you consider that historically (on handheld devices) they were graphical showcases many moons prior."

Are you sure about that? Pokemon has always been dated visually on every console it's been on. They did weird 3D 2D thing in Gen 4 by the time Gen 5 came out the DS was one it's last legs. There are loads of games that looked much better on their handhelds then Pokemon did. The only difference now not being only a handheld is it's becoming more apparent to people.

Could the games look better sure but it's the same old adage who plays Pokemon for graphics? It's always been for the gameplay and creature designs.

I recently replayed PLA some parts of that game don't look great (caves) but I was having too much fun that it honestly did not bother me. From what I have seen ZA looks fine, I am gonna too busy battle and catching Pokemon to notice buildings

@ThePluckyJonny

There is no day 1 paid DLC for god's sake. Can people on the internet not read, DLC will actually release by Feb 26 so if people don't like ZA they don't have to get the DLC

There is no fomo here at all as the pre order bonuses outfits and pokeball will also still be available when the actaul DLC drops

@BrokenCiv THERE IS NO PAID 1 DLC JUST PRE ORDER BONUSES

"The Mega Dimension DLC includes the following content:

Wave 1: Holo-X and Holo-Y Apparel Sets – available 16th October, 2025

Wave 2: Additional story content – planned for release by 28th February, 2026

An additional story that can be enjoyed after completing the main story of Pokémon Legends: Z-A."

https://www.nintendo.com/au/games/nintendo-switch-2/pokemon-legends-z-a-nintendo-switch-2-edition/#dlc

Seriously can people on the internet not bloody read? Or is it all rage bait?