@batmanbud2 Because I've had every Nintendo console since the GBA and N64 and I'd rather not leave the games. I think Nintendo games are great but not special or better than any other.
My time with PC gaming has also left me wanting more from hardware and game optimization. I'm not asking for like 8K 120fps from the Switch 2 but like seriously Nintendo throw some of us that understand hardware a bone for once. I want to love Nintendo games again but I can't stomach playing games at 720p 30fps anymore. It's not 2006 anymore. Hence why I gravitate emulation. And I'm one of the few that doesn't pirate and actually wants to either rip games or use a cartridge dumper.
@G_and_Thomas why does it even matter? If I want to buy a cartridge dumper and physical games to play on an emulator where a console never comes into play, that's not something Nintendo should be allowed to legislate away.
@batmanbud2 Nintendo games don't have gameplay good enough to be worth overlooking their abysmal hardware for. I'd settle for 1080p 60fps but Nintendo doesn't want to do that either it seems. I was going to wait and see how an actual Switch 2 fairs but I'm totally against Nintendo's anti-preservation tactics.
Maybe instead of waiting for an emulator I'll just wait until the day Nintendo caves in and puts their games on PC, I have enough of a Steam backlog to last me the rest of my life.
I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but I want to see if their first-party games will actually reach a native 1080p 60fps before I buy a Switch 2.
@norwichred Yuzu was licensed under the GPL, even if Nintendo owns the code and re-licenses it, they only own the future code they develop based upon what they acquired during that time. By law Nintendo has to allow the current Yuzu code to freely exist and be freely modified and distributed as long as those modifications don't infringe on the code that Nintendo develops/owns.
@HeeHo piracy is a service problem. If Nintendo offered products where people that pirate would want to buy it then they wouldn't pirate and emulate, for the most part. There will always be those that pirate because they don't want to pay for it, but the vast majority will gladly fork over money for what matches their ideal experience.
I haven't played a Nintendo game since Metroid Dread but if this lawsuit goes through and Yuzu is shut down then I will never involve myself with Nintendo again, and I don't even pirate or emulate games.
The simplest way for Nintendo to defeat 99% of piracy would be to port their games to PC.
This just might make me avoid the next Nintendo console altogether. Thanks for saving me money Nintendo!
Edit: before I get accused of encouraging piracy, I actually hack my own systems to rip my own games to play through emulators on my PC because it's a better experience than playing on the Switch's underpowered hardware. It's the reason I haven't played TOTK yet. If the Switch 2 can't play TOTK and future games at 60fps and at least at 1080p/1440p, or if Nintendo continues their (in my opinion) ridiculous business plan of never releasing their games on PC for those who don't want to play on their hardware, AND implement a system that prevents people from taking that endeavor into their own hands, then I have no reason to support Nintendo any further.
@Rambler A good game, movie, or album will always be more enjoyable and provide a better experience with better equipment. That's what I believe. That's why the Switch OLED is such a better experience than the standard Switch.
Tears of the Kingdom being rated 10/10 across the board is fantastic, and since Nintendo have the game and artistic aspect of perfected, it just makes me want to wait until the day comes that Nintendo releases a better console with better specs and an upgraded release of this (and BOTW) that take advantage of those specs, especially if those hypothetical versions support 1080p-4k and 60fps. Not that I can't just do things the normal people way, but if I know what I like and I have the money to spend...
@SBandy1 what I want is for Nintendo to release a system that can run their games at (at least) 60fps and preferably above 1080p. I don't care if the Switch can't run it at those frames but I'd like Nintendo to throw those of us that want something more powerful a bone.
OR, implement current technologies such as DLSS/FSR, future AI frame generation, and VRR like freesync into their docks and displays (like the ROG Ally, and something I wish the Steam Deck had) to mitigate dissatisfaction with poor visuals and performance.
There are so many avenues for Nintendo to explore hardware and software-wise for the system itself that everyone else has already, but Nintendo just doesn't care.
Also, I got a steam deck to support Valve and the Linux community, and you can turn the refresh rate down to 40hz to make lower framerates more bearable. I mainly use it for older games and indies though I like benchmarking and writing ProtonDB compatibility reports for those who might have a steam deck as their first PC.
For actually playing games to completion I prefer playing on my main PC.
@Cashews I gave away my Switch after Metroid Dread came out and I haven't touched a Nintendo game since...simply because I don't like playing games at below 1080p and below 60fps. If Nintendo wants to have a more powerful, dock-only Switch for the next-gen and milk the current Switch for another gen then I'm all for it, but my standards are much higher than whatever Nintendo is currently offering.
@Cashews Valve continues to support devices with updates even after they're discontinued like the Steam Controller and Steam Link, I've literally never heard of another company doing that.
Also, because they have Steam to deal with there's no reason to drop the Steam Deck after a couple of years.
@Mgalens I'm saying I'm willing to buy and play Tears of the Kingdom now but alsoI'm willing to drop Nintendo entirely in future generations if their next hardware isn't a major leap in performance.
@Itachi2099 I don't see how expanding their market and letting people that don't want to buy their console to play their games is a fatal mistake. I never would have played Spider-Man, Horizon Zero Dawn or God of War if it wasn't for their PC ports. If Nintendo doesn't do the same well I guess they don't want my money anymore because I'm done with their hardware.
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Re: Is The Switch 2 A Steam Deck Killer? Digital Foundry Dives Deep
If it can't play my entire steam library it isn't
Re: Nintendo Slays Switch Emulator Ryujinx
@batmanbud2 Because I've had every Nintendo console since the GBA and N64 and I'd rather not leave the games. I think Nintendo games are great but not special or better than any other.
My time with PC gaming has also left me wanting more from hardware and game optimization. I'm not asking for like 8K 120fps from the Switch 2 but like seriously Nintendo throw some of us that understand hardware a bone for once. I want to love Nintendo games again but I can't stomach playing games at 720p 30fps anymore. It's not 2006 anymore. Hence why I gravitate emulation. And I'm one of the few that doesn't pirate and actually wants to either rip games or use a cartridge dumper.
Re: Nintendo Slays Switch Emulator Ryujinx
@G_and_Thomas why does it even matter? If I want to buy a cartridge dumper and physical games to play on an emulator where a console never comes into play, that's not something Nintendo should be allowed to legislate away.
Re: Nintendo Slays Switch Emulator Ryujinx
@batmanbud2 Nintendo games don't have gameplay good enough to be worth overlooking their abysmal hardware for. I'd settle for 1080p 60fps but Nintendo doesn't want to do that either it seems. I was going to wait and see how an actual Switch 2 fairs but I'm totally against Nintendo's anti-preservation tactics.
Maybe instead of waiting for an emulator I'll just wait until the day Nintendo caves in and puts their games on PC, I have enough of a Steam backlog to last me the rest of my life.
Re: Nintendo Slays Switch Emulator Ryujinx
I think I'll just wait until a Switch 2 emulator releases to go back to playing Nintendo games
Re: Talking Point: What Game Should Be 'Switch 2's 'Skyrim Moment'?
the correct answer is that Nintendo should re-release every first-party Switch game for the Switch 2 with a 4k/60fps upgrade
Re: Talking Point: Would $499 Be Too Much For 'Switch 2'?
I don't care what I have to pay as long as I get at least 1440p and 60fps on every game, including Nintendo's own first party releases
If I'm paying 500 bucks for the exact same experience on the switch I might as well just emulate every game I want to play
Re: Reaction: A Direct That Delivered, And Shows That Switch Still Has Plenty Of Pep
Still holding out for the switch 2
Or to see how emulation fairs when prime 4 releases, whichever is better at launch
Re: Talking Point: Would You Want Quality And Performance Options For Nintendo's 'Switch 2' Games?
Yeah for sure, I didn't even want to get a switch 2 if I can't at least play every game at 60fps.
Re: Nintendo Will Continue To Support Physical Media And "Maximise" All Software Sales
I used to be digital-only for convenience but ironically what with stuff like the mig switch dumper coming out I'm more interested in physical
Re: Nintendo Discontinuing 'X' Integration On Switch Next Month
My Linux brain read that as Nintendo switching to Wayland
Re: Rumour: 'Switch 2' Said To Be Fully Backward Compatible With A Larger, 1080p Screen
I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but I want to see if their first-party games will actually reach a native 1080p 60fps before I buy a Switch 2.
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door Switch Frame Rate Revealed
I'll stick to the original modded on the steam deck then
Re: Creators Of New Switch Emulator 'Suyu' Hope To Avoid Nintendo's Wrath
@norwichred Yuzu was licensed under the GPL, even if Nintendo owns the code and re-licenses it, they only own the future code they develop based upon what they acquired during that time. By law Nintendo has to allow the current Yuzu code to freely exist and be freely modified and distributed as long as those modifications don't infringe on the code that Nintendo develops/owns.
Re: Reaction: Nintendo's Switch Emulator Fallout Is Shocking Only Because It Took This Long
@HeeHo piracy is a service problem. If Nintendo offered products where people that pirate would want to buy it then they wouldn't pirate and emulate, for the most part. There will always be those that pirate because they don't want to pay for it, but the vast majority will gladly fork over money for what matches their ideal experience.
Re: Reaction: Nintendo's Switch Emulator Fallout Is Shocking Only Because It Took This Long
@solarwolf07 Yuzu is based on Citra's code base
Re: Reaction: Nintendo's Switch Emulator Fallout Is Shocking Only Because It Took This Long
Switch 2 better be as good as emulating on PC if they want to kill the main reasons people emulate...
Re: Nintendo Sets Its Sights On Switch Emulator Yuzu In New Lawsuit
I haven't played a Nintendo game since Metroid Dread but if this lawsuit goes through and Yuzu is shut down then I will never involve myself with Nintendo again, and I don't even pirate or emulate games.
The simplest way for Nintendo to defeat 99% of piracy would be to port their games to PC.
Re: Doug Bowser: Nintendo Has A "Great Relationship" With Microsoft
Is this relationship good enough to put Nintendo games on PC?
Re: Internal Xbox Email Details Desire To Acquire Nintendo
I DO want Nintendo games on PC, but only if it's from their own volition from understanding what a good business move it would be, like Sony.
Not if Microsoft is spearheading it.
Re: GameCube Classic Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door Is Heading To Switch
I really hope for a Super Paper Mario remaster some day, it's the best game in the series.
Re: Nintendo Is "Evolving" Into An Entertainment Company, According To Doug Bowser
Does this mean they are finally considering non-Nintendo systems for ports of their games in the future?
Re: Denuvo's 'Switch Emulator Protection' Is Now Available Via Nintendo's Official Dev Portal
This just might make me avoid the next Nintendo console altogether. Thanks for saving me money Nintendo!
Edit: before I get accused of encouraging piracy, I actually hack my own systems to rip my own games to play through emulators on my PC because it's a better experience than playing on the Switch's underpowered hardware. It's the reason I haven't played TOTK yet. If the Switch 2 can't play TOTK and future games at 60fps and at least at 1080p/1440p, or if Nintendo continues their (in my opinion) ridiculous business plan of never releasing their games on PC for those who don't want to play on their hardware, AND implement a system that prevents people from taking that endeavor into their own hands, then I have no reason to support Nintendo any further.
Re: Microsoft CEO Says He Would "Love To Get Rid Of" Exclusives On Consoles
I DO want everything on PC at least, even Nintendo games, but not if it's something that Microsoft is pushing for, I don't trust them one bit.
Re: Video: Digital Foundry's Technical Analysis Of Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom
@Rambler A good game, movie, or album will always be more enjoyable and provide a better experience with better equipment. That's what I believe. That's why the Switch OLED is such a better experience than the standard Switch.
Tears of the Kingdom being rated 10/10 across the board is fantastic, and since Nintendo have the game and artistic aspect of perfected, it just makes me want to wait until the day comes that Nintendo releases a better console with better specs and an upgraded release of this (and BOTW) that take advantage of those specs, especially if those hypothetical versions support 1080p-4k and 60fps. Not that I can't just do things the normal people way, but if I know what I like and I have the money to spend...
Re: Video: Digital Foundry's Technical Analysis Of Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom
@Rambler audiophiles and cinephiles exist so there's clearly a market for reviews of audio/visual technicalities
Re: Poll: So, Will You Be Getting The Legend Of Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom?
I'm waiting for whatever console Nintendo releases next to get it.
Re: Switch Android Emulator Skyline Halts Development Due To "Potential Legal Risks"
@FawfulsFury when does Nintendo plan on giving him a PC port to buy?
Re: Switch Android Emulator Skyline Halts Development Due To "Potential Legal Risks"
@PixelTavern except piracy will now increase as people won't be able to source their own keys
Re: Switch Android Emulator Skyline Halts Development Due To "Potential Legal Risks"
@blindsquarel it also doesn't make criminalizing it right either.
Re: Video: The OneXPlayer 2 Is Very Switch-Inspired, But What Do We Make Of It?
Or Nintendo could just release their games on PC, I'd be completely fine with that too. Prefer it even.
Re: Video: The OneXPlayer 2 Is Very Switch-Inspired, But What Do We Make Of It?
@ParadoxFawkes I consider them equally important.
Re: Video: The OneXPlayer 2 Is Very Switch-Inspired, But What Do We Make Of It?
@SBandy1 what I want is for Nintendo to release a system that can run their games at (at least) 60fps and preferably above 1080p. I don't care if the Switch can't run it at those frames but I'd like Nintendo to throw those of us that want something more powerful a bone.
OR, implement current technologies such as DLSS/FSR, future AI frame generation, and VRR like freesync into their docks and displays (like the ROG Ally, and something I wish the Steam Deck had) to mitigate dissatisfaction with poor visuals and performance.
There are so many avenues for Nintendo to explore hardware and software-wise for the system itself that everyone else has already, but Nintendo just doesn't care.
Also, I got a steam deck to support Valve and the Linux community, and you can turn the refresh rate down to 40hz to make lower framerates more bearable. I mainly use it for older games and indies though I like benchmarking and writing ProtonDB compatibility reports for those who might have a steam deck as their first PC.
For actually playing games to completion I prefer playing on my main PC.
Re: Switch Android Emulator Skyline Halts Development Due To "Potential Legal Risks"
@blindsquarel what about those that want better performance and mods?
It shouldn't be a problem to legally source your own roms and keys for that.
Re: Video: The OneXPlayer 2 Is Very Switch-Inspired, But What Do We Make Of It?
@Cashews I gave away my Switch after Metroid Dread came out and I haven't touched a Nintendo game since...simply because I don't like playing games at below 1080p and below 60fps. If Nintendo wants to have a more powerful, dock-only Switch for the next-gen and milk the current Switch for another gen then I'm all for it, but my standards are much higher than whatever Nintendo is currently offering.
Re: Video: The OneXPlayer 2 Is Very Switch-Inspired, But What Do We Make Of It?
@Cashews Valve continues to support devices with updates even after they're discontinued like the Steam Controller and Steam Link, I've literally never heard of another company doing that.
Also, because they have Steam to deal with there's no reason to drop the Steam Deck after a couple of years.
Re: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom "Hands On" Performance & Resolution Detailed
@Mgalens I'm saying I'm willing to buy and play Tears of the Kingdom now but alsoI'm willing to drop Nintendo entirely in future generations if their next hardware isn't a major leap in performance.
Re: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom "Hands On" Performance & Resolution Detailed
Fine but this better be the last one Nintendo, but 900p 30fps is getting pretty old at this point...
Re: Miyamoto Thinks Mario Movie's Critical Reception Contributed To The "Buzz"
I hope the success of this movie convinces Nintendo to consider moving into even more markets and expand.
Re: Nintendo Hacker Gary Bowser Has Been Released From Prison
Gary Bowser deserves what he got but so does Nintendo.
Re: Soapbox: Can We Stop Pretending Switch Can't Run Call Of Duty?
Tears of the Kingdom should be 60fps
Re: Random: The GameCube & Wii Emulator Dolphin Is Coming To Steam In Q2 2023
If Nintendo wants to end piracy and emulation on PC, all they have to do is port their games to pc...
Re: Soapbox: The Steam Deck And The Switch Aren't Rivals, They're Siblings
Yeah that's cool but can we get Nintendo games on steam so I only need 1 system/handheld please
Re: Nintendo Isn't Happy About Switch Game Images On Steam
Piracy is a service issue, Nintendo
Put your games on steam and nobody will ever steal them again and you won't have to worry about crap like this
Re: Random: Valve's Latest Steam Deck Trailer Briefly Shows A Switch Emulator
@Itachi2099 I don't see how expanding their market and letting people that don't want to buy their console to play their games is a fatal mistake. I never would have played Spider-Man, Horizon Zero Dawn or God of War if it wasn't for their PC ports. If Nintendo doesn't do the same well I guess they don't want my money anymore because I'm done with their hardware.
Re: Random: Valve's Latest Steam Deck Trailer Briefly Shows A Switch Emulator
@Itachi2099 Sony wised up and everyone else is doing it now. It's only a matter of time.
Re: Random: Valve's Latest Steam Deck Trailer Briefly Shows A Switch Emulator
Hey Nintendo, if you want to stop people emulating your games on PC, the simplest thing to do is just put them there. Just saying.
Re: Taiwanese-Developed Action RPG Xuan Yuan Sword 7 Arrives On Switch In 2023
For the love of god Softstar PLEASE localize the rest of the series, xuanyuan sword 2 and 3 are really good and I'd like them officially in english
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Has Leaked And Is Fully Playable On The Steam Deck
If Nintendo put their games on steam natively then this wouldn't have had to happen
Re: Rumour: Potential Mario Kart Tour PC References Found In Datamined Details
If Nintendo put their games on PC I would actually start getting interested in them again