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USA VC Update: Kirby's Dream Land 3

Posted by Marcel van Duyn

Nintendo of America has released one Virtual Console game and two WiiWare games every single week for the past two months - You thought they couldn't sink any lower? Guess again, because this week it's one VC game and one WiiWare game! Much like last week, the VC game is a good one, but that doesn't really make up for anything!

Kirby's Dream Land 3 for the SNES is the final Kirby's Dream Land game and the only one released on a console - As you might know, the first two games were both released for the original Game Boy. Much like Super Mario World 2, Kirby's Dream Land 3 uses a unique visual style - The whole game looks as if it was drawn with crayons. It's a decent Kirby game, despite offering nothing really new, but the general opinion seems to be that it is one of the lesser games in the series, which may be attributed to the fact that the game's a breeze to beat - There is almost no challenge at all! Europeans should be aware that, much like StarTropics II last week, this game was never released in Europe, making it a perfect candidate for the next Hanabi Festival.

As said, there's only one WiiWare game this week instead of two - It's Sandy Beach, in which you can build and protect sandcastles. Before you start bashing the game based on pictures, note that it is being published by Konami - Perhaps it's really good?

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slangman

#1

slangman said:

Well that was a suprise. I was expecting Mercs or Wonderboy. I guess we will have to wait ages for this game just for Hanabi. Hmmmmm

Kevin

#2

Kevin said:

This is really starting to piss me off! They can keep wiiware going one a week but for god's sake please bring back two vc games a week. I am glad they released Kirby though.I might wait a week to download it or so.

RGVEDA

#3

RGVEDA said:

Wow! This games wasn´t released in Europe? I didn´t know that. So let´s wait for the next Hanabi Festival. I hope it will come then.

Bass_X0

#4

Bass_X0 said:

Think about it. They're probably just running out of games available to them to put up on Virtual Console and WiiWare. If they gave you two WiiWare and two VC games every week, there may be weeks next month or the month after when you only get one game - a VC game OR a WiiWare game. I wouldn't blame the economy at all for this. At all.

Terra

#5

Terra said:

Dream Land 3 looks amazing for a SNES game graphics wise. I'm sure it plays just as nicely too. Can't wait for the European release.

EDIT: Wait, it wasn't released in Europe? Damm it, first Startropics II then this. We'll have to wait for another Hanabi. I'm still hoping we get one to start the New Years off as it would seem like good timing but we'll have to wait and find out.

EDIT.2: Also, i wouldn't count on Sandy Beach being much good after Critter Round Up, even if it is Konami. All Devs, no matter how great, do bad games at some point.

ALDAWGZ

#6

ALDAWGZ said:

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! awesome game cant wait 2 go home n download it mayb we'll get some good an average games for awhile

kitroplious

#8

kitroplious said:

A new year means even more new games at the Wii™ Shop Channel.

Huh? I, I don't believe it Nintendo. How could you call this more when we get less new WiiWare and Virtual Console games? :'(

ReZon

#9

ReZon said:

These tiny weekly updates are somewhat tiring. I would have figured more releases a week when WiiWare launched, not less.

Honestly.. 2 new games?

Mike1

#10

Mike1 said:

Well, I still wanted Castlevania 3, but I've wanted Kirby's Dream Land 3 since it was rated last Febuary so I'm pretty happy today.

Of course as usual, the WiiWare game looks stupid. Next week on WiiWare, get ready for Dogs Love Us, a game where you use the Wiimote as a virtual leash to walk your virtual dog. Plus, Garbage Bag Toss, a game where you use your Wiimote to toss virtual garbage bags into garbage cans. Nintendo needs to stop the shovelware from appearing and just focus on making great games like when the WiiWare service launched. They're letting any developer make any kind of garbage for WiiWare, and that sucks.

niner

#12

niner said:

It's nice to see Nintendo finally release another SNES game...but I can live without this title. Kirby Super Star was the only Kirby game I've ever really enjoyed. Hopefully they'll continue releasing SNES games. We've only barely scraped the surface of the SNES's awesome library, although we've definitely received the highlights already. Where are the RPGs and action-RPGs? The Super Scope games (enhanced for Wiimote of course)? The late-gen releases that no one bought (Metal Warriors anyone?) Nintendo could release two a week just for the SNES and have plenty to release for 2 more years at least.

itsmeyouidiot

#13

itsmeyouidiot said:

Quit complaining, everyone. You've gotten nothing but the best games available on the VC for the past three weeks, and you complain that they need to release two per week nonetheless. If they did reease two a week, the second game would probably be shovelware. Even if the only game they released next week were Earthbound, you'd still complain.

Terra

#14

Terra said:

Niner's right. We have only scraped the surface of SNES games. Maybe the rumor about the VC continuing on the next console has something to do with this. My guess is that, alongside Nintendo wanting to carefully control their releases, the reasons many games haven't appeared yet are

1: Licensing issues complicating any potential release
2: Companies not wanting to put their games on it just yet
3: They think no one will buy it
4: They're corporate fat-cats who want to make more money through remakes instead
5: They believe it would be too obscure to be marketable on the Vc...
the list goes on.

Also, where's the KDL3 review?

Walan

#16

Walan said:

You know, when people like deadbattery complain, it makes me wonder if he's even aware that the already awesome and extensive back catalog of Virtual Console releases even exists. Has he really played and beaten every released VC game, so much that he clings to every Monday morning release like a leach, then avoids great games like KDL3, Phantasy Star IV, and Startropics II just on principle?

It's true what they say: you can't please everybody.

Stuffgamer1

#17

Stuffgamer1 said:

@itsmeyouidiot: If we got Earthbound next week, I'd be the happiest guy around, and wouldn't care in the slightest if it was the ONLY game of the week PERIOD! Sadly, I agree that some people would still complain, especially those crazy folk who don't like Earthbound.

As for this week's release, I'm pretty happy. Two games in the week is pretty lame, but I'm not sure how big a practical difference it really makes to me when WiiWare is so rarely worth buying anyway. What worries me is that Nintendo's going to go with their usual marketing strategy and put Sandy Beach on the "Shop Channel Updated" report on the Wii menu. It's been TOO long since a VC game was featured there...

As for THIS VC game, it's one of my two favorite Kirby games, the other being Kirby 64. I also believe that it's the last console Kirby game to come to VC, barring Kirby Superstar eventually appearing, which is unlikely due to the DS version. So I'll be grabbing this, anyway.

Gotta say: Two good VC releases in a row? SHOCKER! Seriously, if Nintendo's gonna INSIST on one game a week, at least they did a couple great ones for a change! :)

And sorry to anyone and everyone who disagrees with this point. I'm just feeling happy that Nintendo's showing ME some VC love for a change. I do hope many of you will agree.

Terra

#19

Terra said:

@Drake
Ok. Thanks for the Heads-up.

EDIT: I heard the game was good but not great. I had no idea it was that bad. 3 stars is alright but for a Kirby game, not impressive

Rapadash6

#20

Rapadash6 said:

Wow, I didn't expect this but it's nice to see it there. Still waiting for Castlevania III but I will be downloading this one for sure.

Chunky_Droid

#21

Chunky_Droid said:

This isn't sinking low :)

@deadbattery: Accept it, or get over it, whatever. VC isn't the Wii's entire reason for being. Playstation Network in Australia got NOTHING last week, at all, not even new DLC for any games. This is obviously how downloadable games on Wii is going to come out for everyone now so you might aswell stop overreacting. We still have more games to download than any other service is offering.

Stuffgamer1

#22

Stuffgamer1 said:

I've posted my thoughts on the review page, and I apologize if they seem rude. I feel assaulted by the bad review of the game, and retaliated as mildly as I could restrain myself to.

@Terranigma: As I say on the review page, this game is NOT 3-star. It should be at LEAST four, and I give it five for personal taste. Don't hesitate to download it when/if it comes to Europe. If you like Kirby, there's no reason to dislike this game.

@chunky_droid: Actually, PSN took last week off in America, too. I think it was a company-wide, global Sony thing. Stupid, but there's nothing we can do about it...

wii-c-kid

#23

wii-c-kid said:

God I'm glad I'm not an American right now. This week's lineup for you guys sucks. Big time.

Outside of Kirby 64 and that god awful Gamecube racer, I'd say this is the worst Kirby game ever and I have no hopes for Konami's sand-castle game.

Please be kind to us NoE 8D Somehow though I have a feeling that we're going to get shafted with more garbage C64 and SMS releases. Ugh, what I wouldn't give to be able to kick whoever was responsible for those VC console choices right between the legs - hard and repeatedly until their balls pop out of their nose: one through each nostril :D

Bass_X0

#24

Bass_X0 said:

You seen whats coming up on the American Wii retail release list?

North America
01/05 Paws & Claws Pet Resort
01/06 Fishing Master World Tour
Hotel for Dogs
01/12 Neighborhood Games
01/13 Deal or No Deal
MotoGP 08
01/15 The Clumsey's
01/20 Dead Rising: Chop Til You Drop
Deer Drive
Ultimate Shooting Collection
01/21 SimAnimals
01/23 My Fitness Coach

There's nothing at all I would buy from that list. VC would be my only source of new Wii games.

Stuffgamer1

#25

Stuffgamer1 said:

@Bass X0: Nor would I buy any of those games. Dead Rising is the closest thing to a decent game from that list, and the Xbox 360 version is doubtlessly MUCH better. The Wii's retail release lineup is forfeit until March.

niner

#26

niner said:

I hear you Terranigma. Unforunately the corporate world just isn't built with the fanboy in mind. It's all about market share, ROI and profits. We just have to flex our spending muscles when a deserving game is released. That'll help them forecast the value of releasing fan-faves in the future. Sigh.

deadbattery

#28

deadbattery said:

@ chunky_droid

You know what? You're right.

I've wasted my life anticipating two-game weeks that aren't coming.

Goodbye forever, everyone!

And this is for real.

Since everyone here seems to have fallen in love with the "single-game week" concept, I feel it's best to remove myself ASAP.

Terra

#29

Terra said:

@Bass X0
Dead Rising and Fishing Master are the only things i'd buy off that list. Honestly, what has it all come to?

@Stuffgamer1
Like i've said before on other games (Like Snowboard Riot recently), everyone has their own opinion. If you love it, great. You can't have a game everyone will love. It's impossible. For KDL3, i suppose i'll look into it when i get more points and it's released in Europe but i might need some more convincing. I like Kirby but I'm not a huge fan.

Betagam7

#30

Betagam7 said:

Face it, the Wii is a toy (nothing wrong with that in essence but its not a serious machine if you want to play new crossplatform games) and the VC not what it promised to be in any way. I've had the Wii since launch and have only felt moved to buy 16 disk releases for it. If I'm honest half of those were titles I probably would have overlooked if decent quality software became available.
The VC instantly got off to a bad start in PAL territories with the conversions and its downright insulting American territories.
I've made the decision to just mod my old yellowing snes and buy the carts. I now wish I hadn't sold the ones I have hoping to build up a virtual library that's never coming.
God I'm glad I've got a 360 and that's something I never thought I'd say.
I've also got a modded xbox and a disk with every snes game ever burnt onto it that I could use but I foolishly perhaps wanted to give Nintendo my money. Now ebayers will get it instead.
I'll still use the VC for the odd hard to get download but its clear its never going to offer any sort of serious alternative to a physical collection.

The_Fox

#31

The_Fox said:

@ALDAWGZ
If you have a 360, get that version of Dead Rising instead. Although the Wii version will probably have new content its kind of sad to see that some of the zombies forgot to show up to the mall in the Wii version.
Regarding this weeks VC release, its not too bad, although these one one game weeks still piss me off.

Bass_X0

#32

Bass_X0 said:

Well... the way I see it... now that its after Christmas and Nintendo clearly don't have any great games coming out at retail on Wii, America will begin to get more good VC games to compensate. At least I hope so. Kirby is a big name title so that will sell.

GodsUncle

#33

GodsUncle said:

Much like last week, the VC game is a good one, but that doesn't really make up for anything!

Getting more games than one is a privilege, not a right. Be happy we have a treasure trove of retro games at our disposal unlike some certain starving kids in Africa and stop setting fantasy expectations.

An example needs to be set by our founding fathers of VC-reviews, whining shouldn't be encouraged.

Betagam7

#34

Betagam7 said:

Only problem with Dead Rising on the 360 is the horrible tiny fonts if you don't have an HD TV. I'm fed up with Wii games looking worse than GC games. It'll be interesting to see how the rumoured rogue squadron remake looks.

Betagam7

#35

Betagam7 said:

Wii-C-Kid, your definition of garbage choices has many American and Australian VCers jealous.
Have you actually played any C64 titles or are you judging on graphics? I didn't believe paradroid could be any good till I played it on VC and I owned a C64 first time around.

North99

#36

North99 said:

Quality over quantity makes up for the lack of releases for me. I will download Kirby for sure - I ♥ Kirby.

Terra

#37

Terra said:

Dead Rising should be interesting when the Wii release arrives. Not many companies are doing what Capcom is, so it should be interesting to find out the end result. As for VC, I would also much prefer quality over quantity, so i hope you guys (and eventually us) get more good Vc games for longer, even if it is only 1 game a week.

@Betagam7
If it comes, which i hope it does. The Factor 5 rumors certainly don't make things look promising. As for Dead Rising, that sounds a lot like the Nuts and Bolts font issues.

@Bass X0
That theory does make sense. Maybe they'll have more WiiWare games on the way as well, although, if they do, i'd want something outside of Art Style but wouldn't expect it to be.

STEADY_MOBBIN_22

#38

STEADY_MOBBIN_22 said:

35. GodsUncle United States 05 Jan 2009, 15:20 GMT

Getting more games than one is a privilege, not a right. Be happy we have a treasure trove of retro games at our disposal unlike some certain starving kids in Africa and stop setting fantasy expectations.

An example needs to be set by our founding fathers of VC-reviews, whining shouldn't be encouraged.

Why is it a privilege again? Starving kids in Africa? Founding Fathers? WTF are you talking about?

Nintendo sells a product. We can criticize them or praise then any way we feel depending on their service/products.

As a result of their shovelware, overpriced VC games, and lack of quality VC games, I sold my Wii on Ebay last week.

Betagam7

#41

Betagam7 said:

How many people on here actually buy (or would buy) more than one game a week out of interest?

WarioFan63

#42

WarioFan63 said:

An example needs to be set by our founding fathers of VC-reviews, whining shouldn't be encouraged.
Oh man, thank God someone else noticed! Lately Ive felt that Drake is TRYING to get us to fight.

ALDAWGZ

#43

ALDAWGZ said:

@ the fox
i only have wii @ the moment any game that comes out for different systems wii cant compare to the others cause of the graphics but i think it will still b pretty cool

Terra

#45

Terra said:

@DDR Paladin356
Maybe you're right. Here's a list Games rated by the ESRB ages ago. I know people can look in the coming soon section but i thought it'd be a good idea to have all the ESRB games rated ages ago in one list

Earthbound
Wonder Boy In Monster Land
Mercs
Tin Star
Uniracers
Pilotwings
Pro Wrestling
Aerofighters Assault
Sonic & Knuckles
World Heroes 2
Super Pitfall
Beetle Adventure Racing

If i remember correctly, Duck Hunt, Hogan's Alley and a few others were rated but the rating was removed.

There's also Hagane. That one's different though, as even though it's been rated, It's a Hudson game, which might make a release a lot less likely for now

Betagam7

#46

Betagam7 said:

Earthbound, Pilotwings, Uniracer and BAR all interest me but the first will probably be a Hanabi, the second and third use some sort of chip which seems to be causing problems, is there a VW licence holding up the third? Also didn't Clayfighter get rated?

Terra

#47

Terra said:

It did but it was a PEGI rating, which is why i didn't include it on this list.

Evermore

#48

Evermore said:

One game which is VERY good. Very better than receiving three games that aren't good any at all.

For me, Nintendo started the year very well.

Rapadash6

#50

Rapadash6 said:

@Betagam7

I think Uniracers is unable to be published because of some copyright infringment that occourred when the game was originally released. Appearantly the Uniracers looked a bit too much like a unibike character in a Pixar animated short and the company took legal action. Don't know much more than that, though.

As for enhancment chips I wouldn't worry about those. Super Mario RPG and Kirby's Dreamland 3 both actually use an enhancment chip as well, but they were released, albeit later than we would've hoped. The point being Nintendo is working on getting those games to work and I have no doubt that we'll see them in time. How much time that'll be is anyones guess though.

Betagam7

#51

Betagam7 said:

A snes release is usually always a good one but I fear we won't get to see the more obscure stuff like Pop'n'Twinbee, Pocky and Rocky, the gambare goemon series and Spike McFang. That's why I'm modding the SNES to run 60hz and seeking out the carts

Jockolantern

#52

Jockolantern said:

@Terranigma: Kirby's Dream Land 3 is nowhere near as mediocre as Drake makes it out to be. He's just being a hater. ^_~ He admitted to me earlier that it is his least favorite Kirby game, right alongside Kirby 64... so, I think that certainly needs to be taken into consideration regarding his thoughts on the game.

@All Wii Doomsayers: Have you seen the '09 releases list? All kinds of great stuff coming out and we've even got Dragon Quest X, a new Mario and a new Zelda on the horizon, all of which are extremely exciting. Add to that the additional 50 weeks of VC/WiiWare games to look forward to; at 2-3 games a week (if not one or two more, should we get so lucky), that's right around 150+ games. Nothing to cough at, considering the comparably fewer amount of downloadable titles the 360 and PS3 receive.

I honestly don't care to ever own a 360, as there are only a handful of games on the system that even remotely interest me; a far cry from all the games on Wii I already own and love. I see some great things for 2009 and 2010 on the Wii, albeit even I do hope Nintendo steps up the VC love a little more with each passing week. Let's keep our chins up; this IS the beginning of the year, after all. Just as with the movie season, nothing much of import is supposed to happen in the gaming world around this time of year as the major consoles won't see headline titles start to arrive until the second and third quarters of the year.

DazzaAdmin

#53

Dazza said:

@GodsUncle - "An example needs to be set by our founding fathers of VC-reviews, whining shouldn't be encouraged."

Four score and seven years ago - stop whining you at the back!! :-p

Betagam7

#54

Betagam7 said:

Sorry for you if the likes of Fallout 3, GTA IV, Bioshock, Beautiful Katamari, Braid, SF2 HD, SWOS, Dead Rising and others don't interest you. Not to mention decent storage solution so you can actually keep the games you download. You say the 360 has limited releases but look at what the releases actually are. They're ususally arcade perfect (not NES imperfect) with new features and improved graphics for the same price so its not fair to compare the time it takes to put them up with nintendo's already available, no work done, untested ROM factory.

Terra

#55

Terra said:

@jockolantern
Makes sense looking back at the reviews. Thanks for the heads-up on that one.

The only reason i own a 360 is because i Actually Won it through a magazine competition ages ago. If that hadn't happened, i don't think i'd own either. I buy most of my games for the Wii and DS. I only have like 10 360 games and most of them were bought on the cheap Pre-owned, like Gamestation's 4 for £20. There is so much quality in the 360 but i guess i'll always be a Nintendo fan at heart. As for the release calender, America's first quarter on the Wii is not looking good but the rest of the year looks like it'll be absolutely incredible.

Adam

#56

Adam said:

Eh, Kirby is overrated. Nostalgia is twisting your minds. Be angry at Nintendo! :)

All the Kirby games are absurdly easy, but for good reason... they're kids' games. Unlike Mario games though, they just aren't worth playing as you get older.

itsmeyouidiot

#57

itsmeyouidiot said:

@adam:
I'm guessing youu haven't played a Kirby game in a long time. Sure, they're easy, but that doesn't they're boring. There hasn't been a bad game in the entire series.

The only way you could possibly call Kirby "Overrated" is if you haven't played the games before. Sort of Iike how I refuse to eat seafood even though I've never really eaten seafood before.

Virus

#58

Virus said:

Well, personally, I'm happy with the VC release, but still, this week concerns even me. Three games a week should be a standard, one Nintendo set up themselves. If they are running out of games momentarily, perhaps it would be best that they release a small statement saying that so were aren't waiting hopefully at our Wii systems each week. And by god, if this is because of the economic depression, screw them. (But that's probably just a highly improbable reason.)

Ricardo91

#59

Ricardo91 said:

@Deadbattery. A game comes out that you wanted, yet you refuse to buy it because it's the only game that came out this week?
That makes TONS of sense...

Anyway, I'm chuffed as chips to see this game finally come out. I was beginning to think we'd never see it. Now Im just wish my mom would give me my second Wii Points card already. :P

Pj1

#60

Pj1 said:

I agree with the comments that having one game released for VC is better than none. However I don't believe that there will be a shortage of releases and that being the reason of one game a week for the US Here in the UK (Europe) we get VC games every two weeks and all though we get some good titles we still fall behind America and Japan. I am still getting my head around Wii-Ware and I really think a top title like a decent Mario or Sonic game would make me seriously look at Wii-Ware. I also think VC games should maybe be based on a voting system or Nintendo should release a monthly list of titles like they do in Japan. I hope VC continues to be strong in 2009 but patience is a virtue people.

Stuffgamer1

#61

Stuffgamer1 said:

Well, I'd say that GodsUncle had a point, even if it wasn't well put. Americans, Europeans, and Australians all have it pretty darned good in this world, and we DO tend to whine more than we ought. We take housing, food, and so much more for granted and start to complain about our entertainment selection when so many people in the world don't really have ANY entertainment at all! It's a good wake-up call to recall how well off we really are.

That's not to say that we can't be a bit miffed at Nintendo. It is our right to be annoyed, and to voice that annoyance as we choose. But things ought be taken in balance.

Regarding those who say "quality over quantity:" I agree. But that's a tricky thing because last month was low on quality (Enduro Racer?), and there's always going to be people who don't agree on what is or isn't quality (like those of us who didn't want Phantasy Star IV vs. those who were ecstatic it was released). I propose we all try to be a bit more understanding of each others' desires for VC releases. I'll stop complaining that a game was on a superior collection already, and people can stop dissing Kirby and StarTropics. Deal? :) Then we can all gang up on the REAL trash like Enduro Racer (which I don't recall a single person being particularly happy about the release of...apologies if someone who was reads this)! :D

DJ_Philanegro

#62

DJ_Philanegro said:

YES! My favorite Kirby game! I know I don't normally comment and leave it to myself, but seriously - this game is amazing. Thing is, most people won't like it just because it isn't Superstar. I honestly didn't like it at first for the same reason, but man is this game worth it. 15 more min until it's mine! >:D

Bass_X0

#64

Bass_X0 said:

Oh, we all expected it to come eventually. We just didn't think it would take this long that we begun to think that it would always be sometime later in the future.

Rexy

#65

Rexy said:

Strangely, someone I know actually found more challenge in Dream Land 3 than Adventure; being European, I'm one of those that have a desire to play it myself... come on, hurry up with the Hanabi Festivals so I can get my Kirby fix >.>

I wouldn't care if it's one game a week - at the rate you get you still get a guaranteed total VC games a months and so do we to some degree (stupid bi-weekly updates). If you want the game, then go for it. If not, then just stop complaining and let the others enjoy it in peace :)

TheWIiman123

#66

TheWIiman123 said:

What The Hell? I Thought Everyone Wanted This Game? Anyways I'm new here but I always come and read the comments btw.This game looks good! :D

Bass_X0

#67

Bass_X0 said:

Its not the game that is at fault, its the fact that its still the only game they gave America this week and only one WiiWare game. I hope we get it better this week.

Manicfatty

#68

Manicfatty said:

@ Betagam7 - Well said... Braid and Castle Crashers alone are worth more than all of the Wiiware releases. And imagine actually having 10+ high profile, highly rated disc-based games for the Wii this holiday! But it didn't happen. Not on the Wii. For that sort of gaming joy, we have to look to the 360. Sorry folks, but them's the facts. And I bought a Wii before any other system this gen. It was over a year before I bought a PS3 (Blu-ray Player),and I've only had my 360 for about 4-5 months. Now I find myself on my 360 most of the time, with some major time put in on the PS3 recently due to Castlevania Chronicles, and Suikoden as well as a beautiful new shooter. As for Nintendo, until they take us seriously and give us decent VC updates, far better QA and oversight for Wiiware, and a real storage solution that doesn't assume we are naive and dullards, I'll stick to my classic systems and carts, and my 2 HD gaming systems.

stinssd

#69

stinssd said:

Kirby's Dreamland 1 was a fun game with little challenge (Except in the expert mode!). Kirby's Adventure was a little more challenging, but felt like drudgery to get through when I came back to play it later in life. Never played Kirby's Dreamland 2 or 3.

WolfLink22

#70

WolfLink22 said:

Well at least USA gets a Kirby game that people will like.But remember Aussie does not always get as many VC Games a week if at all.

ness

#71

ness said:

@ Manicfatty (#68): "Braid and Castle Crashers alone are worth more than all of the Wiiware releases."

Do you know all WiiWare games? It seems not...

@ Rapadash6 (#50): "I think Uniracers is unable to be published because of some copyright infringment that occourred when the game was originally released."

It was rated by the ESRB some time ago, so i don't think there should be a problem with a copyright.

Link79

#72

Link79 said:

Finally! I thought I was gonna be an old man by the time this released. So what if It's easy. I need a game that will cause me less stress. I actually prefer this one over Kirby 64. Glad I saved some Wii points for this week. Now If only we could get Yoshi's Island or Castlevania 3.

Manicfatty

#73

Manicfatty said:

@ ness - Um... If it's a Wiiware game that has been released, why wouldn't I? So... I think so. And check the quote. I DID say RELEASED. So, to recap... of all the Wiiware releases, there are none that capture the magic of Braid, and the old-school meets HD online multiplayer game play of Castle Crashers. As a duo, they have more value/bang for the buck than all the Wiiware releases... not future games or planned releases. World of Goo is basically carrying the rest. The vast majority of Wiiware games feel like game or tech demos and nothing more. There is very little substance. Hell, Star Soldier is nothing more than a mode from a full game. I pretty damn tired of Nintendo's contempt for core gamers. They treat us like an inconvenient truth, and an annoyance.

brooks83

#74

brooks83 said:

I was hoping for something that interested me, but that's ok, I'm still working on Shining Force 2 and I have about 5 Gamecube games I still need to play, as well as Toki Tori (sitting on my SD card since I bought it)

ness

#76

ness said:

@ Manicfatty (#74):

I know that you said "released", but for example with World of Goo, Final Fantasy, LostWinds, Toki Tori, MM9, Bomberman, Tetris Party, the Art Style- and Strong Bad-series i still can't agree with your comment that Braid and Castle Crashers alone should be worth more than ALL of the Wiiware releases.

Terra

#77

Terra said:

Kirby's Star Stacker could be a good Hanabi Release, provided that Language Barriers are minimal, which I'm not sure on with Star Stacker.

One game which I know i mention a lot but would like to build up interest in alongside other people is Mario & Wario for the SNES. A Good Hanabi candidate i'd say, even though it required the SNES mouse (could easily be fixed with using a USB Mouse) as it was entirely in English, which is surprising considering it never got released outside Japan but reminds me of Sin & Punishment. Also, as it's a 1st party Nintendo game, it could easily get cleared for release

sfog

#78

sfog said:

"I wonder if "Kirby's Star Stacker" (Kirby no KiraKira Kids) will be released on the VC."

I could see it as a potential import. The menus aren't too difficult to navigate even without any Japanese knowledge, and any needed menu translations could be in the Operations Guide, like they did for Puyo Puyo 2.

RurouniTeeter

#79

RurouniTeeter said:

Jeez people...
You're never happy...
Never...

Some people have been WHINING LIKE CRAZY about this game wanting to be here, I was expecting some happy comments..
But nope...
Negative...
Negative...
Negative...

I'm happy that least some people are.
Does getting 1 game realllllly matter to you people?
[/end rant]
Well, I might be downloading this. Probably will.
Is an expected but awesome game. :D

firebrand

#80

firebrand said:

Ugh. Another one game week. I think this is a permanent policy now. Oh well. I guess we'll have to live with it.

Hey, can anyone tell me if Hudson has abandoned the Virtual Console?

Twilight_Crow

#82

Twilight_Crow said:

I wanted this one, but after the review I don't know, is KDL 3 really the easiest Kirby game? Maybe I should save my last points, since I wont be getting any more for awhile.

@Betagam7
Mmm from all those games I'm just barely interested in one, two I don't know about and the rest are meh for me, thanks for reminding me the only reason I want a 360 is Banjo Kazooie, since I have no money to get one, I'm feeling much bettet now (no sarcasm) ;)

RurouniTeeter

#85

RurouniTeeter said:

@Twilight Crow
Dude, all Kirby games are easy... It's still good series and all.
But, it's up to you, if you really, really like Kirby, go for it.

Adam

#86

Adam said:

@ 57
I played Kirby Super Star a couple months ago on SNES. It's more than a little ridiculous to think that someone can't possibly like a game because you like it so much. I've played all the main Kirby games from NES/GB days through 64 days, and some others. I have certainly played the series. Fun when I was a kid, dreadfully boring now.

Also, I don't like seafood either though I've only tried fish, but my excuse is that it smells disgusting and I don't like food that looks at me. ;)

SmaMan

#87

SmaMan said:

@sfog
I've played Kirby No Kira Kira Kids and it's actually pretty easy to work through the language barrier. There's a lot of dialog cutscenes and such but nothing that could keep you from playing the game.

If you want even more help with the language barrier, go pick up the US Gameboy version of the game!

Also I think there's a good translation guide on Kirby's Rainbow Resort: www.classicgaming.com/kirby

sfog

#89

sfog said:

@SmaMan
I have the GB version, and as evidenced from my post above, the SNES version's menus aren't difficult to navigate, as I've played through much of it as well. Hence my reasoning for it having a decent shot as a VC import title, although Japan doesn't even have it (or KDL3) yet.

Link79

#90

Link79 said:

Does anyone know If Hudson not supporting VC anymore is going to cause there to be no chance in hell of Dracula X Rondo of blood being released on the shop in America? I thought that was a Konami game. Isn't it up to them? I'll be rather Miffed if Rondo never makes it here even though Japan got it. Sorry to be off the Topic of Kirby but I had to ask.

King_Elemento

#91

King_Elemento said:

In all honesty...
I WANT THIS GAME. D=<

Dangit NoE, bring on a Hanabi Festival faster than you can say "import".
Just... let NoA say "EarthBound" first, then at least we have a chance. =P

But still, I don't feel sorry for you Yanks much at all. I feel more sorry for the folks down under when the only PAL releases are C64 games, because that's no release, and that's just stupid.

But something I'd like to see, are games that were unreleased, but clearly close to finished, or were scheduled for release. Take for example EarthBound 64, or Starfox 2.

Just... let Nintendo have their "master plan" unfold as they want it to, 'cause that's what's going to happen, whether you like it or not.

lockelocke

#92

lockelocke said:

This is like giving us Mario's Time Machine instead of a classic Mario game, totally weak.

PS - @manicfatty
I would argue that World Of Goo can definitely hold its own next to Braid, and while there are a few gems available on Live Arcade, WiiWare certainly has a higher quantity of solid titles for download. Believe me, I am not without my frustrations about the Wii, especially on the retail front, but my recent purchase of a 360 has only given me way more appreciation of the VC and WiiWare services. With double the retro library, and a promising roster of upcoming original downloads, its obvious that the Wii will remain my main download platform. Its worth mentioning, however, that many games (like MM9) will inevitably end up on both platforms, and that the 360 does have a handful of must-haves, both old (Symphony Of The Night, Ikaruga) and new (Braid, Geometry Wars 2, SF2 Turbo HD Remix).

Rapadash6

#93

Rapadash6 said:

@Link79

I think, even if the rumors about Hudson are true, Rondo of Blood still has a chance of making it's way to the North American and European Virtual Console services. In the Alien Crush Returns Hudson interview, which can be found at the WiiWare World site, they were specifically asked about that title and the response was "that's up to Konami." They also stated that they "...wouldn't be surprised to see more import titles show up in the future".

Link79

#94

Link79 said:

@Rapadash6
Well that's somewhat Uplifting. I sure hope all is not lost.
The rumors were starting to worry me. I'll just keep waiting and hoping then. Thanks.

Starwolf_UK

#95

Starwolf_UK said:

Critter Round Up, even if it is Konami

Komani only published it; Epicenter Studios developed it. I'm not sure about the new game though.

Blimey 94 comments and only 3 mentions of Castlevania 3. Still time for to use this tagline:
Konami, Sandy Beach isn't quite what I meant by 500 wii points game on the Wii shop...

ness

#96

ness said:

82. Manicfatty (#82): "Yes, that's what the word is. To concentrate on more wonderful non-games for Wiiware."

That is the second comment from you which let me think you don't know all WiiWare games, especially from Hudson.

CanisWolfred

#97

CanisWolfred said:

Meh, I got enough Kirby, plus, I never liked the Dreamland games, so I'll pass. I'm still waiting for Castlevania 3 over here, or, dare I say it, M.U.S.H.A.

Rawk_Hawk

#98

Rawk_Hawk said:

@ Deadbattery

I understand your frustration. I am frustrated too. I have been waiting for certain games like Castlevania 3. But the way games are trickling out; I am not getting my hopes up that it will be out soon. I'm just going back to Animal Crossing for a while.

So I for one am not in love with one game weeks. I feel your pain

Spiky_Idiot

#99

Spiky_Idiot said:

so that's EarthBound, Kirby's Dream Land 3, Smash Ping Pong and M.U.S.H.A. for Hanabi Festival. Hmm... not bad.

Chunky_Droid

#100

Chunky_Droid said:

Wow, 100 posts in 8 hours. And I apparently chased someone out of VC-Reviews forever....

Deadbattery, if you come back and you're reading this, I just don't understand why you'd say something along the lines of "I love this game! But they didn't release BATMAN FOREVER on SNES, so I'm abandoning the VC!"

I wish Hudson wouldn't abandon the VC, I'd like all the SNES Bomberman games and I'd say a lot of people that come to this site would want them too.

CanisWolfred

#101

CanisWolfred said:

@Spiky Idiot

Remove Earthbound and put in StarTropics II, since Earthbound was released in Europe...oh, no wait, it wasn't released in Europe...was it? Well, either way, it's more likely that you'll get StarTropics instead of Earthbound anyways.

ttplayer92

#102

ttplayer92 said:

S***. I had a odd feeling that I should have waited till monday before downloading SMRPG on Friday because of the possiability of this game coming out. :( DAMN IT. *** *** ** ** **

Terra

#106

Terra said:

@King Elemento
You can never fully predict what games we'll get. Major Imports that have a chance of coming to Europe, considering that in this Hanabi, because of Hudson, we'd most likely have another one for Nintendo Consoles so it would likely be
1: Earthbound
2: Smash Ping Pong
3: Startropics II
4: Kirby's Dream Land 3
5: Super Turrican 2

MaxPlastic

#108

MaxPlastic said:

Total surprise. Even tho it's only one game, this is a good start for 2009!
The Dream Land series isn't my favorite of Kirby's, but this is an instant download for me

ttplayer92

#109

ttplayer92 said:

@Bass X0
And people say Spiderman 3 was fantastic and Rush hour 3 was horrible even though I think the opposite. I would like to decide for myself on this one.

shadows262

#110

shadows262 said:

ok ok 1 VC game a week is truely getting old but this 1 VC game this week being KDL 3 is exeptional and I really have no problems at all because I love kirby games more than most Metroid or Zelda games but im only pissed because
I HAVE ONLY 400 F&@KING POINTS AND I`VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS GAME SINCE AUGUST!!!!
gets upset, and yells at his parents sayin he`s running away and never coming back

Bendover83

#111

Bendover83 said:

Get over it people Earthbound is not coming out for Hanabi. (I'll probably get kicked out for saying that).
KDL3 is a good Kirby game that I will download eventually, but I still have Secret of Mana and Phantasy Star IV to beat. Maybe Nintendo is going to start having WiiWare as one game releases and VC for two releases eventually. (I know, I'm hoping to much)

firebrand

#112

firebrand said:

@Rapadash6

"I think, even if the rumors about Hudson are true, Rondo of Blood still has a chance of making it's way to the North American and European Virtual Console services. In the Alien Crush Returns Hudson interview, which can be found at the WiiWare World site, they were specifically asked about that title and the response was "that's up to Konami." ""

According to the ESRB, Hudson published Gradius II for the Virtual Console. This doesn't bode well for Rondo of Blood. Also, doesn't Konami own Hudson?

Betagam7

#113

Betagam7 said:

@83 Twighlight Crow

Then can I suggest that as you havn't heard of the games I mention you take the time to find out about them. Otherwise you arn't really qualified to write them off.
As someone who owns both platforms I think I'm in a better position to compare them than someone who only owns one and admits they havn't heard of some of the top titles for the other machine.

Jolted85

#115

Jolted85 said:

I'll get this game the next time I have some Wii points, we have had 3 good weeks so far on the VC (the first being Phantasy Star IV, second Startropics II, and now Kirby's Dream Land 3); let's hope Ninty keeps up this trend.

SmaMan

#116

SmaMan said:

@firebrand
Yes, I'm pretty sure that Konami owns Hudson now, so if Konami really wanted to they could get Hudson to release Rondo.

Kidpit

#117

Kidpit said:

@ttplayer92: I feel your pain (not to the extent of telling a company to F themselves but still felt it). I had purchased 2000 Wii Points last weekend after beating episode 5 of SBCG4AP so I could get some games to replace it. After spending 600 on Cubello (the only Art Style game I had interest in), I was set to purchase Secret of Mana. Then I thought "maybe Earthbound will be available Monday" so I waited. As you can see We didn't get the sought after RPG but a Kirby game. This brought up a new dilemma; I hadn't played a good RPG in awhile, but I also love Kirby games. I ended up flipping a coin and the result was in favor for Secret of Mana (I spent the remaining points on Dragon's Curse for the TG-16). Oh well the next time I buy points I'll pick up this game; I've waited a long time for it's release, I can wait a little while longer.

Draygone

#118

Draygone said:

It's about time. I've been wanting this game ever since it originally came out, but I had never gotten around to it, and it's been strangely difficult to find in stores that sell older games.

But I feel sorry for those who aren't interested in the game.

shadows262

#120

shadows262 said:

@rurouni teeter
its juss that i gotta go buy another wii points card because last week i sayed to myself if they dont get KDL3 out im buying space invaders get even! and what do you know a week after i said that and did that it comes out...i hate nintendo

MarkyVigoroth

#121

MarkyVigoroth said:

I am only somewhat disappointed on the ammount of games this week. At least I downloaded Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: My Life as a King as an Epiphany present to my brother...

KingMike

#122

KingMike said:

Not sure about the sand castle game, but even though their record is pretty good, Konami is not immune to bad games. :D
Hi no Tori for Famicom was pretty awful. A platformer with an invisibility power-up that can get you stuck in walls, and valleys you can get stuck in with no choice but to push the suicide button and try again. I vaguely recall a river level with Mario-like fish swarms. They stop when you reach the boss, except when I went through some trees to get a health power-up, and they didn't stop. Um... program flaw or sadistic design? :P

Supermarioman

#124

Supermarioman said:

No offense everyone, but shut up about one WiiWare game and one VC game, Kirby's Dreamland 3 is an awsome game and there is no need to complain, nobaody can see the greatness in this update except for the Europeans it seems like. People like Terranigma speak the truth, sure Snady Beach is probably shovelware, but Kirby is not, everybody respect VC-Reviews and everyone else, talk about games, and please do not complain, for we have recieved a great game, it was ranked 5th of most wanted SNES game of Nintendo Powere so we know we have gotten a great game.

CanisWolfred

#126

CanisWolfred said:

@Supermarioman

It's only good if you like Kirby games and Sand Castles. Me, I hate both, so for me this was a sucky week. Actually, I'm kind of glad, since now there's nothing to keep me from getting DoReMi Fantasy, Alien Soldier, and Super Fantasy Zone, which I was planning to get this weekend.

Twilight_Crow

#127

Twilight_Crow said:

@ Rurouni Teeter
I know all kirby games are easy, I still like them, but does being easy make this one too short?

@114 Betagam7
You really missed the hole point and took my coment too seriously, I CAN'T get a 360, I've seen or played some of it's games due to friends, I know they're good games, but most of them I simply don't like, and I'm grateful, it would be unbearable if I liked every 360 major game. Now, after investigate, from those games you mentioned 1 I think I'd like, 1 barely interests me, and the others are not my cup of tea.

MarkyVigoroth

#128

MarkyVigoroth said:

And no, to anyone who is concerned, I was not complaining. I was only SOMEWHAT DISAPPOINTED, not heartbroken. At least we get regular VC releases (except for WiiWare launch). If you hate Wii so much, give your Wii away to someone in the Dominican Republic! (In that country, a Wii can cost more than US $400, and not just because about 32 D.R. pesos = 1 US Dollar.)

Heh, Super Smash Bros. may be #300 and Mother 2 (and 1?) for the Fireworks Festival (or maybe the other way around). Also, I predicted that #300 (whatever that game may be) will come out at the end of February, yet I will give the game an extra month to adjust for 1-VC-game weeks.

Stuffgamer1

#129

Stuffgamer1 said:

Sadly, I was right. Sandy Beach is the head game for the Shop Channel release as seen on the Wii Main Menu. sigh Pathetic. I'm POSITIVE they'd get more Shop Channel traffic if they put Kirby there instead...

I never knew Kirby's Star Stacker was on Super Famicom! As a big fan of the Game Boy version, I really hope that comes to VC as an import title now! Well, it'll take a while, if ever, but still...

@chunky_droid #101: Super Bomberman 2 = best Bomberman game ever. I wish they'd released that instead of Bomberman '93 in the first place.

@lockelocke: How DARE you compare Kirby's Dream Land 3 to Mario's Time Machine? Having played both (and MTM for the first time only a couple months ago...eBay whim), there's no QUESTION which is better! Now, if you'd said KDL3 vs. Mario is Missing, maybe I'd agree (but only because I kinda like that one for some odd reason; it's sure not as bad as Time Machine!), but probably not, as it's still quite a stretch.

@Draygone: "Strangely?" No, not so strange at all, really. It came out on 03/26/98 in America according to GameFAQs. That's WAY too long after the release of the N64 to expect a decent number of copies to have been made or sold in the first place, and anybody who DID buy it (bless my dad and his awesome tastes in now-very-rare games) wouldn't want to give it up. But now you can download it for a measly $8 any time you wish, so it's all good! :)

About the whole WiiWare vs. Xbox Live Arcade thing: I'd say that Arcade DEFINITELY beats WiiWare in overall releases, though arguing two games vs. forty is pushing it (well, I'd agree given how awesome those two are, but I can still see arguing against that point). I have over 50 Arcade games, vs. fewer than 10 WiiWare games. Granted, Arcade has about 3 times the games available. Take a logical leap, and I'd have 30 WiiWare games at most given current trends in quality.

But I always advise having more than one console anyway. Much as I'm loving my Wii lately (good VC releases, getting back into Brawl, trying to catch up on games I STILL haven't played...), I'd still hate to not have other options.

megacody

#130

megacody said:

Hey, this release was pretty good! I love challenging games, but I might get it. I've been keeping a close eye on this release for awhile, because I had some good memories playing this in the 2nd grade.

Stuffgamer1

#131

Stuffgamer1 said:

@MarkyVigoroth: By my calculations, at one game a week, we won't reach #300 until July. Currently, according to this site's list, America has 274 VC games. We're only two off from 300 if you combine regions (which it does until you tell it to filter to just U.S.), so it'll be a while in reality.

Virus

#132

Virus said:

Hmmm...people have the right to complain about the games...people have the right to complain about complainers...and people have the right to complain about complainers complaining about complainers...god, doesn't the First Amendment stop us Americans at one point? ;)

Concerning the two-game release week, this happened approximately the same time last year, even getting as bad as one game for a week (1080 Snowboarding). It seemed like we'd never get three games a week again, but sure enough we did. Perhaps we just have to wait it out.

In other news, Kirby's Dream Land 3 was reclassified by the ESRB about a year ago too. Wow, long time right?

WarioFan63

#133

WarioFan63 said:

Sadly, I was right. Sandy Beach is the head game for the Shop Channel release as seen on the Wii Main Menu.
Do you mean, the thing that scrolls by on the Wii Shop Channel Icon if you just let it sit there? KDL3 scrolls by too. Or do you mean what shows up first when you let it scroll by? As far as I recall the newest WiiWare usually scrolls by first.

Chunky_Droid

#134

Chunky_Droid said:

@stuffgamer: Totally agree on Bomberman 2! I'd also love to see Bomberman 64 come out aswell at some point, it was published by Nintendo so it may see the light of day eventually, never did find all the costumes.....

Jockolantern

#135

Jockolantern said:

@Betagam7: Of all the 360 games you listed, the only exclusive I remotely care to play is Braid. I can play Fallout 3 and Bioshock on my soon-to-be-acquired PS3. I don't care for Katamari, Dead Rising or any of the others... least of all GTA IV. I absolutely despise that entire series and nothing about the fourth entry in the series looks remotely more engaging than its predecessors. So, I'll still take a big pass on the 360 and stick with the far superior Wii, DS and PS3, thanks.

I really hope Hudson doesn't abandon the VC. There are still some great, great games they could release. And if they do in fact abandon it, I hope the quality of their WiiWare games takes a serious curve upward. They have no excuse for it to do otherwise. Still hoping for some more Bomberman titles on the VC, as well as Rondo of Blood. Don't leave us, Hudson!

ness

#136

ness said:

@ Mickeymac (#127): "It's only good if you like Kirby games and Sand Castles. Me, I hate both"

How can you hate something which (at least one game) you never played before?

Bass_X0

#137

Bass_X0 said:

If you been a gamer for a long time you can see what games would appeal to you and which wouldn't without playing them beforehand. Now, yes there will always be games you would enjoy if you played them that you didn't think you would do before you did. But with WiiWare and Virtual Console, if you can't afford many games, you have to be particular about which ones get your attention especially since there's no refunds or anything. I'm sure we've all made mistakes downloading games we thought we might like but ended up not doing so. But to "hate" a game you never played before is indeed a strong word to use.

famicom

#138

famicom said:

@Nintendork; Don't get your hopes up, you'll only end up flaming.
Better to not bother about the games and when it finally arrives it's a good feeling.

Objection

#139

Objection said:

Before you start bashing the game based on pictures, note that it is being published by Konami - Perhaps it's really good?
So much for that. (Points to WWW review)

Chunky_Droid

#140

Chunky_Droid said:

@Bass: I can agree with that, although some games do tend to surprise. I for one thought I'd hate the crap out of Little Big Planet, now that I've played it I wouldn't mind owning it, but I don't have a PS3, I'll wait for Resident Evil 5 to come out before I get one, and I'm still peeved that you can't play PS2 games on the Australian models.

@Famicom: Thank you! It is a good feeling when a game you love comes out, no point flaming :)

Betagam7

#141

Betagam7 said:

136 Jackolantern.

Now its you who's missing the point. In highlighting those games I wasn't saying that a 360 was an essential purchase over a PS3 (I have no PS3 so unlike some don't see how I can compare) I was saying that these are games you are NEVER going to get to play on the Wii (and calling the Wii "far superior" is frankly a joke, especially as like the other poster you admit to not owning another console to compare it with).
My point being that while its nice to have the Wii it should never be purchased as a MAIN gaming console if you want to enjoy the big cross platform releases as the Wii versions are dumbed down or graphically a joke.
If you prefer the PS3's choice of games over the 360 then fine however you are actually validating my point that any Wii owner who can afford it should have at least one other console to avoid missing out.
I have no experience of the Playstation Network so cant comment on how it compares to the VC. I can only judge the VC against Live Arcade where it fails hopelessly not through content but through the effort that is put into making that content work to its optimum value.

ness

#142

ness said:

@ Stuffgamer1 (#130): "I have over 50 Arcade games, vs. fewer than 10 WiiWare games."

And the Virtual Console? It is also a 'digital distribution service'. So normally, if you compare two services, you have to compare them as a whole and not separately.

Betagam7

#143

Betagam7 said:

Not really, its fairer to compare to Wiiware as Microsoft's games while often retro older games ALWAYS have been worked on to run optimally and given extra modes and features, in essence meaning it takes time to put them out unlike Nintendo who just slaps a ROM on and doesnt even check to see if it works or not cough*LastNinja3*cough

If you really want to compare though, yes I have downloaded more VC games than Live Arcade games but Ive also had the Wii for two years longer than the 360 and if those games had been available on 360 I'd have bought them on 360 due to the fact that you don't have to play shuffle the deck just to get them up and running and you can try a demo first

Stuffgamer1

#144

Stuffgamer1 said:

@WarioFan63: I don't usually leave it sitting long enough to see anything but one game scroll by. First it'll show Sandy Beach and say "Sandy Beach and more added to Wii Shop Channel." Leave it sitting and it goes to a picture of Tetris Party saying "over 300 games now available for download." I'm not sure what goes past there. Point was that Kirby's Dreamland 3 SHOULD go in the place held by Sandy Beach, and it's insulting that they automatically put the WiiWare release there regardless of quality or popularity.

@ness: Okay, if you insist on adding up games more precisely...
I currently have 10 VC games and 9 WiiWare games (one of which, MadStone, I'd like to forget ever having purchased). There are a few more VC games I'll download next time I want to play them (Super Metroid, Zeldas 1, 2, and Ocarina, Kirby 64, and maybe a few more). You compare that to 52 Arcade games and 3 Xbox Originals. So add that up and I'm not sure which service "wins" (better just be open to both, I say).

Reason I didn't include VC in my comparison is that I'd prefer to compare that to Xbox Originals, of which I currently own 3 vs. 10 VC games. I don't buy into Nintendo's view of "Wii Shop Channel" games without differentiating between VC and WiiWare, and Microsoft actually releases Arcade games and Xbox Originals games on different days of the week, so it's reasonable to consider them different things.

Main reason I don't just download every VC game I'll ever want to play (besides cost, of course) is lack of storage to put it in. My Xbox 360 has a 120gig hard drive, so downloading games averaging 100-some-odd megs (many older ones being less than 100) isn't really a big deal.

In the same way, I would compare PSN to Arcade to WiiWare, and PS1 downloads to Xbox Originals to VC. As far as I'm concerned, each company has TWO "digital distribution services" on their consoles. This is a common viewpoint of users of this site, I believe (everybody calling one VC game a one-game week even if there are two WiiWare games makes that pretty clear).

CanisWolfred

#145

CanisWolfred said:

@ness

Well, I don't like Kirby games(they're fun for a little while, but I lose interest in them very quickly), and why should I assume that this one will be any different, especially considering the fact that it's one of the lesser games in the series? As for the sand castle game, I seriously hate sand castles, pure and simple, so logically I will hate playing a game about building sand castles.

As for why I used the word HATE, well, 1) to me, hate isn't a very strong word, and that it's a word that can be used lightly. 2) I'm lazy - it's much easier to say "I hate both games" rather that say "I don't like one of them, because it's a Kirby game, and I hate the other one because it has sand castles in it, and I hate sand castles". Sure, that's what I ended up having to say anyways, and in retrospect, it would've been less work, but like I said, I'm lazy.

Besides, when I said "I hate both", I didn't mean I hated the games in particular, just Kirby games and sand castles in general. Edit: you know, I could've just said that, and not have to write a whole huge post, but whatever.:P

Stuffgamer1

#146

Stuffgamer1 said:

@Mickeymac: I know what you mean with the word "hate," as I don't think it's all THAT strong either. If somebody wants to know that I REALLY have a problem with something, just wait until I say "loathe." THEN you'll know. :)

Stuffgamer1

#148

Stuffgamer1 said:

@lockelocke: Yeah, because a fun platformer is TOTALLY just as bad as a "Mario" game that is actually nothing but reading info and filling in blanks on quizzes (without the extremely mild platforming of Mario is Missing, no less)! :P

Seriously, if you've played both games, you simply CAN'T make that an even comparison. Even if KDL3 was the WORST platformer EVER MADE, it STILL wouldn't be as bad as Mario's Time Machine (and it isn't, anyway, so...)!

Kaeobais

#151

Kaeobais said:

Well, we've been getting Kirby games (2 I think, I was away for a while so I'm not sure whats happend) So I'm keeping up hope nintendo will be compassionate and give us Kirby SuperStar even though it was released on DS.

lockelocke

#152

lockelocke said:

@stuffgamer1
Eh, I just look at it like KDL3 is the worst game in the Kirby canon, and Mario's Time Machine is the worst in the Mario canon. In any case, KDL3 sucks, its like the Yoshi's Story of SNES; a droll, monotonous naptime experience that brings shame to its predecessors. And I have played both games, and this is me making that comparison. But to each his own, eh?

lockelocke

#155

lockelocke said:

@Wario4mom
It seems like a difficult title to bring to the VC, considering the main advertised feature of the game was being able to bring your Pokemon from the GameBoy to the N64. With that being out of the picture, the game is slightly crippled, and releasing it on VC may be a kind of counter-intuitive move.

WarioFan63

#156

WarioFan63 said:

Where's my Gradius?!
Is there....Is there anything left for Gradius as far as VC? Besides Life Force and Gradius 2 NES, I cant think of anything.

StarDust4Ever

#157

StarDust4Ever said:

I've never played either of the SNES Kirby's (I only have the NES version) so this one is a win for me :D Also, I don't like super-hard that make people want to pull their hair out, like [cough] Megaman. Well, except for maybe Super Mario Bros: The Lost Levels.

Also, for those of you arguing over the erratic placement of the "Recommended Titles" on the home screen, please not that if you click on the "Recommended Titles" link at the top, it will give you a list of the top twenty "recommended" games, which also include all of the enhancement channels as well, usually on the second page. What is really strange, however, is that I have consistently checked the "Recommended Titles" list to find that the four items on the home screen of the Shop Channel always occupy the #4, #5, #6, and #7 slots on the full list. I have no means of checking this because my Wii is not in my dorm room, but based on the awkward 4567 logic, if Kirby is in the top three slots on the "Recommended Titles" list, you will not find it on the home screen. That same logic applies to World of Goo, which last time I checked, was still the #1 recommended game.

sfog

#158

sfog said:

"Is there....Is there anything left for Gradius as far as VC? Besides Life Force and Gradius 2 NES, I cant think of anything."

There's also the PC Engine version of Gradius 1, which has been out in Japan for quite a while.

Kaeobais

#159

Kaeobais said:

I think I've played this before ... Ah well, not buying it anyway, got too much on my list as it is ... GOD DAMMIT I WANT KIRBY SUPERSTAR! Too bad it won't ever happen (or at least not soon).

Kenryoku_Maxis

#160

Kenryoku_Maxis said:

I played this Kirby game long ago and didn't quite enjoy it. But I didn't give it much of a chance because I was playing it along with a host of other games in a 'trial' setting and didn't really look to own it. And was put off by the graphics, which at the time, I had expectations for a Kirby game.

I just downloaded it off the VC service and gave it a good solid try, and I'm really loving it. Even more than some of the other Kirby games out there like Kirby's Dreamland 4 (err...I mean 64).

Manicfatty

#162

Manicfatty said:

@lockelocke - We'll have to agree to disagree, because I just don't see more than a few 'solid' titles for Wiiware, and I do see plenty of krap titles. :)

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