Nintendo capitalize on what you have, offer cross platform buy and cloud saving to play seamlessly from one device to the other. Unleash the VC games, make it rain and make it cheaper too.
@Nomad you are right that we should wait since Mario Kart and Smash Bros are around the corner and potentially they attract new players. But what if it's not enough? Isn't it better to try and think now about alternative solutions?
I think Nintendo should push harder is effort to attract loyal 3DS owners to the Wii U and vice versa before deeper phone interactions.
I see a lot of people saying it would be wrong for Nintendo to put some of their games on the smartphones and while I respect that and understand that, I don't see anyone proposing an alternative way to regain profitability.
And that's the problem Nintendo is facing.
So ok no games on smartphones and for sure no games on concurrent platforms but then how do you make the extra money? I am sorry I don't have a proposition either then.
@PinkSpider I still can't believe there have been no Wii U footage of the game yet. But if you search there are also no real footage of the game on any consoles. The only version being displayed is always PC I believe.
The best part is that WiiU is the superior version with all the gamepad possibilities: map om the gamepad or quick character select on the gamepad or choice of coop spit screen or no coop splitscreen with the gamepad. Only regret, no wii classic pro controller support while wiiu pro controller is supported.
@withoutdk The console doesn't really need more ram or better performances, what it really need is more good games or system seller games if you prefer.
I think the gamepad appears as an odd or clumsy thing for most of the people who haven't owned it. Even trying it out in a shop doesn't reveal its value. But once you become a WiiU owner it becomes a love story. Sure the screen definition could be better or the battery life should have been sorted straight away. But still, it offers so much and at the same time the developers can choose what to implement. So much more possibilities such as:
Off TV play
Map or HUD display on the gamepad
2 players without screen splitting
Asynchronous play
Touch play
Drawing and I think we haven't seen everything yet. And not only for games it's a blessing, look at the WiiU browser with youtube and its use in the karaoke from joysound. I think it's somewhat a hard thing to market and sell but once you adopt one it's really hard to go back.
I think and feel exactly like you Thomas, I am not only a Nintendo player, I am also a PC gamer and I appreciate genres like FPS, RTS, dota-likes etc... but I really hope these and Nintendo can coexist because I need both. And if I have to choose I would prefer Nintendo because I am not really convinced or attracted by ultra realistic graphics. Life is realistic enough, let me enjoy dreamy unrealistic colorful worlds instead. I hope Super Mario 3D World will be like a Christmas fairy tale and will sell Wii U like hot breads and let the Wii U build some confidence and a bigger audience. We need more titles like this.
Man for 2 euros, whether you like it or not or whether you have it on another platform, you should just buy it. So that send the message is sent around that price has also a big weight on purchases decision
Nice guy and clever. I like him really. But Nintendo's problem is not that they have or had the wrong message, their problem is that the casual crowd (the one without kids) has moved on to tablets and phones and might never come back until they have kids. Gamers will be split between PC, XOne, PS4 and WiiU. Nintendo can attract gamers by releasing top notch games involving their famous intellectual properties icons. Let's see how Christmas works for Nintendo, before doing further projections. I am confident.
This though saddens me a lot. They really think that digital and retail should be sold for the same price Why should price be the same if you can't resell, can't lend or have no way of transferring or re-download your games later on with no account system and no guaranty of the future?
Mine is under the coach collecting dust. But not for long obviously. I just hope Ninty is going to release an official Balance Board battery with a charger
On the European eShop it says not available yet so there is hope isn't it? I just hope they won't try to rip us off like they do in Australia. By the way same topic different game: was Mass Effect 3 never on the eShop or was it pulled out at some point?
@sketchturner couldn't have said it better. Especially if Nintendo wants to please kids and gamers alike. Even if they allow to play online with friends only that would a least be something. Of course local is better but in 2013 in the new gen having the choice should be the norm. I really want nintendo to succeed and to do so it needs to step up in the online compartment. When you grow up your friends and family are most of the time living very far away so the chance to play with them locally are rare. This way of treating the online coop play reminds me how they dealt with CDs vs cartridge and later on the HD vs SD. I hope they change their minds before 10 years
Basic or deluxe is no difference, if you want to go digital you will need an external hard drive anyway. And the deluxe 10 % promotion is crap since digital games are more expensive than physical even with the 10% discount.
Great package for kids (and parents looking for an excuse to upgrade ^^;)
@rjejr I wouldnt mind paying 35$ for a download version then I think it's still a win win? I like to have this kind of game digitally as you play in small bursts and the kids will come back often to it so we don't need to pop the disc in and out all the time. Also I don't really need that wiimote nor the stand. If only there was a way to install the games then I wouldn't mind... That would be so nice if we had such a feature with a CD key like PC or something
Good review Thomas. I particularly liked that you mention how hard it is for kids which can be important for parents buyers. I liked Sonic Colours would I like this one too then?
The thing is, I have a PC and a WiiU and most of the time with third parties such as Ubisoft I am faced with the same problem: For the games that are releasing on WiiU and PC I see a huge price difference and while I prefer to play on WiiU, I am not rich enough to ignore such a difference.
Duck Tales is going to be hard to resist to On another related topic I wouldn't mind being able to play NeoGeo titles directly on the WiiU or on the gamepad.
PC to play all the major 3rd party games with better graphs and framerate than Xbone and ps4 and at a cheaper price. If I had no PC it would have been a PS4 and a WiiU
WiiU for all the Nintendo games and 3rd party children friendly games like Rayman, Lego games etc...
Well I do smell like their next device could be a fusion between a handheld and a home console which let you play on the go while at the same time having the ability to play on the TV. Is it gonna have the shape of a tablet not sure and who knows what Nintendo have up their sleeves, they always ending up surprising us no matter what and that's also why I love them. But I don't see that happening before at least another 4 years
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Re: Mario And Zelda On Mobile Could Bring New Players To Nintendo Consoles, Suggest Industry Analysts
Nintendo capitalize on what you have, offer cross platform buy and cloud saving to play seamlessly from one device to the other. Unleash the VC games, make it rain and make it cheaper too.
Re: Mario And Zelda On Mobile Could Bring New Players To Nintendo Consoles, Suggest Industry Analysts
@Nomad you are right that we should wait since Mario Kart and Smash Bros are around the corner and potentially they attract new players. But what if it's not enough? Isn't it better to try and think now about alternative solutions?
I think Nintendo should push harder is effort to attract loyal 3DS owners to the Wii U and vice versa before deeper phone interactions.
Re: Mario And Zelda On Mobile Could Bring New Players To Nintendo Consoles, Suggest Industry Analysts
I see a lot of people saying it would be wrong for Nintendo to put some of their games on the smartphones and while I respect that and understand that, I don't see anyone proposing an alternative way to regain profitability.
And that's the problem Nintendo is facing.
So ok no games on smartphones and for sure no games on concurrent platforms but then how do you make the extra money? I am sorry I don't have a proposition either then.
Re: Matters Of Import: A Peek Into The Tragically Unobtainable World Of Dragon Quest X
@b5234 me three
Re: Watch_Dogs' Pre-Delay Budget Was $68 Million
@PinkSpider I still can't believe there have been no Wii U footage of the game yet. But if you search there are also no real footage of the game on any consoles. The only version being displayed is always PC I believe.
Re: Capcom Claims Its New Panta Rhei Game Engine Can Be Adapted To Any System
@MAB Allelujah to that!
Re: Video: Nyamyam's Jennifer Schneidereit Talks Tengami On Wii U
Nice game, definitely should reward the creators with a purchase when it's out. When, where and what was that event again?
Re: Sega Has No Plans To Bring Alien: Isolation To The Wii U
allright allright, I will play it on my PC then when it's on sales on steam...if it's any good of course :-
Re: Notch "Not Aware of Any Plans" for Minecraft on Wii U
I know it's an old game but the gamepad would be a great asset for this title I believe
Re: Rumour: Minecraft Is Already In Development For Wii U, GamePad Said To Be The Focus
A 3rd party title utilizing the gamepad well? Count me in!
Re: Sonic Lost World Gets Patched Up On Wii U
@JustinH but you can't double jump with it can you?
Re: Sonic Lost World Gets Patched Up On Wii U
Cool now they just need to dissociate the attack button from the jump button and add Pro controller support
Re: Retail Company Rakuten Highlights the Wii U and iPad as Most Talked About Children's Presents
@Kirk Great list, you just forgot to tick the box that makes the console region free.
Re: Review: LEGO Marvel Super Heroes (Wii U)
The best part is that WiiU is the superior version with all the gamepad possibilities: map om the gamepad or quick character select on the gamepad or choice of coop spit screen or no coop splitscreen with the gamepad. Only regret, no wii classic pro controller support while wiiu pro controller is supported.
Re: Retail Company Rakuten Highlights the Wii U and iPad as Most Talked About Children's Presents
@withoutdk The console doesn't really need more ram or better performances, what it really need is more good games or system seller games if you prefer.
Re: Video: Nintendo Teases Footage Of Wii Sports Club: Golf In Full Swing
I am not convinced by this usefulness of the gamepad in that situation. Hopefully there is more to it that I don't know or realise.
Re: Talking Point: The GamePad and its Role Defining the Wii U
I forgot to add that I really hope the next Nintendo home console will also come with a gamepad
Re: Talking Point: The GamePad and its Role Defining the Wii U
I think the gamepad appears as an odd or clumsy thing for most of the people who haven't owned it. Even trying it out in a shop doesn't reveal its value. But once you become a WiiU owner it becomes a love story. Sure the screen definition could be better or the battery life should have been sorted straight away. But still, it offers so much and at the same time the developers can choose what to implement. So much more possibilities such as:
and I think we haven't seen everything yet. And not only for games it's a blessing, look at the WiiU browser with youtube and its use in the karaoke from joysound. I think it's somewhat a hard thing to market and sell but once you adopt one it's really hard to go back.
Re: Review: EDGE (Wii U eShop)
@kokirii it's only temporary.
At 2 euros the game is a steal, even if you are not into puzzle, just buy it to show our interest in cheaper games too.
Re: Soapbox: Super Mario 3D World's Playful Whimsy is Refreshing, But Faces a Vital Commercial Test
I think and feel exactly like you Thomas, I am not only a Nintendo player, I am also a PC gamer and I appreciate genres like FPS, RTS, dota-likes etc... but I really hope these and Nintendo can coexist because I need both. And if I have to choose I would prefer Nintendo because I am not really convinced or attracted by ultra realistic graphics. Life is realistic enough, let me enjoy dreamy unrealistic colorful worlds instead. I hope Super Mario 3D World will be like a Christmas fairy tale and will sell Wii U like hot breads and let the Wii U build some confidence and a bigger audience. We need more titles like this.
Re: Review: Toki Tori (Wii U eShop)
Man for 2 euros, whether you like it or not or whether you have it on another platform, you should just buy it. So that send the message is sent around that price has also a big weight on purchases decision
Re: Oceanhorn for iOS Seems to be 'Heavily Inspired' by Zelda
the red button icon down right looks also a lot like a triforce too
Re: Sony Worldwide Studios President Shuhei Yoshida Wants The Wii U To Succeed
Nice guy and clever. I like him really.
But Nintendo's problem is not that they have or had the wrong message, their problem is that the casual crowd (the one without kids) has moved on to tablets and phones and might never come back until they have kids. Gamers will be split between PC, XOne, PS4 and WiiU. Nintendo can attract gamers by releasing top notch games involving their famous intellectual properties icons. Let's see how Christmas works for Nintendo, before doing further projections. I am confident.
Re: Nintendo Combats Wii Fit U Lock-Up Error With Manual Solution
Good that I didn't transfer any of the data then
Re: Nintendo Reports Continuing Improvement in Download Sales
"Nintendo, whether digital or packaged believe price should be the same, claims once buy digital more likely to buy again digital" by David Gibson (@gibbogame) https://twitter.com/gibbogame/statuses/395728245758238720
This though saddens me a lot. They really think that digital and retail should be sold for the same price Why should price be the same if you can't resell, can't lend or have no way of transferring or re-download your games later on with no account system and no guaranty of the future?
Re: Feature: Where Is Your Wii Balance Board?
Mine is under the coach collecting dust. But not for long obviously. I just hope Ninty is going to release an official Balance Board battery with a charger
Re: Wii Party U Can Be Downloaded Digitally Down Under
On the European eShop it says not available yet so there is hope isn't it? I just hope they won't try to rip us off like they do in Australia.
By the way same topic different game: was Mass Effect 3 never on the eShop or was it pulled out at some point?
Re: Shigeru Miyamoto Clarifies That Local Multiplayer is Still the Priority for Mario
@sketchturner couldn't have said it better. Especially if Nintendo wants to please kids and gamers alike. Even if they allow to play online with friends only that would a least be something. Of course local is better but in 2013 in the new gen having the choice should be the norm. I really want nintendo to succeed and to do so it needs to step up in the online compartment. When you grow up your friends and family are most of the time living very far away so the chance to play with them locally are rare. This way of treating the online coop play reminds me how they dealt with CDs vs cartridge and later on the HD vs SD. I hope they change their minds before 10 years
Re: Nintendo Announces Skylanders SWAP Force Wii U Hardware Bundle
Basic or deluxe is no difference, if you want to go digital you will need an external hard drive anyway. And the deluxe 10 % promotion is crap since digital games are more expensive than physical even with the 10% discount.
Great package for kids (and parents looking for an excuse to upgrade ^^;)
Re: Wii Party U Bypasses the Wii U eShop in Launch Week
@rjejr I wouldnt mind paying 35$ for a download version then I think it's still a win win? I like to have this kind of game digitally as you play in small bursts and the kids will come back often to it so we don't need to pop the disc in and out all the time. Also I don't really need that wiimote nor the stand. If only there was a way to install the games then I wouldn't mind... That would be so nice if we had such a feature with a CD key like PC or something
Re: Review: Sonic Lost World (Wii U)
Good review Thomas. I particularly liked that you mention how hard it is for kids which can be important for parents buyers. I liked Sonic Colours would I like this one too then?
Re: Keiji Inafune Won't Rule Out Publishing Mighty No. 9 With Capcom
@ScorpionMG Why? Apple sued Samsung for tablets with round corners
Re: Keiji Inafune Won't Rule Out Publishing Mighty No. 9 With Capcom
What if Capcom is to sue them for blatantly copying over their famous ip megaman? Maybe then they rather publish this game with their help.
Re: New Wii U System Update Goes Live Across Europe, North America and Japan
How long does it takes to download? How long does it take to install? Does the WiiU switch activities much faster or is it not that update yet?
Re: Nintendo Download: 3rd October (Europe)
oh and 60 eur for a digital version of Wind Waker is waaaaayyyyyyyyyy too much. Come on Nintendo
Re: Nintendo Download: 3rd October (Europe)
Great WiiU week! Totally pumped up for karaoke other than that I still think 8 eur is too much for Snes titles but that might be just me.
Re: Nintendo Direct: Wii U And 3DS Broadcast Coming Tomorrow
I am ready for a WiiU update. Anything else which hasn't been announced yet will be a bonus.
Re: Hands On: Skylanders: SWAP Force
@Gridatttack yes they are and that's why these games are so popular. I But I hope they can increase their level cap of experience too
Re: Hands On: Skylanders: SWAP Force
Did they greatly improve the graphics compared to skylanders giants on WiiU?
Re: Miiverse Update Allows Activity Feed Posts Outside of Communities
I don't know why but I don't see the "sharing to other social network" buttons on my web miiverse, is it a setting to activate or something?
Re: Leaked Ubisoft Games Confirmed, but Skipping Nintendo Platforms
The thing is, I have a PC and a WiiU and most of the time with third parties such as Ubisoft I am faced with the same problem: For the games that are releasing on WiiU and PC I see a huge price difference and while I prefer to play on WiiU, I am not rich enough to ignore such a difference.
Re: Nintendo Download: 15th August (Europe)
Duck Tales is going to be hard to resist to On another related topic I wouldn't mind being able to play NeoGeo titles directly on the WiiU or on the gamepad.
Re: Talking Point: Wii U and Third-Party Inconsistencies Pose Questions for Console Owners
PC and WiiU, best of both worlds:
Re: Platinium Teases "Special Announcement" After Today's Wonderful 101 Direct
a 3DS game would be their first right?
Re: Platinium Teases "Special Announcement" After Today's Wonderful 101 Direct
Bayonetta playable in smash bros?
Re: Art Academy Sketchpad App Coming To The Wii U On 9th August
Free I guess (hope)
Re: Nintendo Most Likely To Produce Gaming-Centric Tablet, Says Game Designer Jesse Schell
Well I do smell like their next device could be a fusion between a handheld and a home console which let you play on the go while at the same time having the ability to play on the TV. Is it gonna have the shape of a tablet not sure and who knows what Nintendo have up their sleeves, they always ending up surprising us no matter what and that's also why I love them. But I don't see that happening before at least another 4 years
Re: Spin the Bottle: Bumpie's Party
Intrigued and waiting firmly for the review
Re: PlatinumGames Gradually Tells All About The Wonderful 101
instabuy!
Re: Pikmin 3 Makes UK Chart Debut in Second Place
@McHaggis Do you mean how many of these sales were brought by new WiiU owners?