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@Wexter
"Outrage", "upset" are pretty strong words... just because I'm voicing my opinion on an online forum doesn't mean that I'm experiencing such strong emotions.

I've been gaming since the NES days. I'm fully aware that patch culture has been around for a while now, but thank you for the trip down memory lane. One difference here is that memory is far cheaper to acquire and easier to swap between on PC and X360 than on the Switch. You can get far more HDD space for the same dollar you can spend on a micro-SD card. $90 USD will get me a 4TB HDD from Amazon. An mSD of that size would easily cost more than a brand new Switch.

I'm glad that your second paragraph shows that you get my point (which is why I'm having a hard time understanding the point of your first paragraph), which is that this GTA trilogy shouldn't have shipped in its current state. It's OK to patch a game for bugs that really did slip through the cracks during initial development or to fix things that the devs really couldn't have accounted for. Patches that introduce new features and/or balance changes are always welcome. What's not OK is to ship an incomplete, buggy mess that runs like a turd, with the excuse that it'll be fixed later.

What's the point of buying the game now then? For all intents and purposes, I might as well see the game as being delayed until the patch comes out and fixes the issues to make it run "OK."

Also, don't we all agree that shipping part of game on cart that requires a download for the rest is a bad, anti-consumer practice? How is shipping a bug-fest that requires a large patch to make it run acceptably any differently?

@Guitario
Every game has "some bugs." This isn't "some bugs." This is a Cyberpunk 2077-tier rush job that should have never made it to market in its current state.

Cool on you for being all-digital, but that's clearly not the case for others, given how this collection is getting a physical release. So however large the future patches are (you know it/they will be several gigabytes at the least), that's still space that the customer has to lose because Rockstar couldn't be bothered to ship a quality port. Like I said earlier, the current cost of expandable memory isn't the point; it still costs the customer extra in terms of time, money, convenience and storage to get the game we should have gotten with the initial purchase.

@Guitario "Dirt cheap" is relative, but the price isn't the point either way.

I really don't understand why you people are defending poorly optimized ports that run like garbage at launch just to get fixed months later at the cost of extra finite space on your console/SD card that could be used for other games instead.

@scottishwildcat How does a patch replace code on a physical ROM?

@TryToBeHopeful

I turned off my ad blocker for Deku Deals (and Nintendo Life) out of respect for the content and services that the site brings me, and because the ads that are there are hardly annoying and obtrusive. Since I'm not making manual monetary donations, i's literally the least you could do as a way of saying thanks.

@CodyMKW I'm willing to bet that most Switch users do not. Keep in mind that mega popular consoles like the Switch attract a lot of owners that don't invest as much time and money into their consoles as people like you and me. Some people would call them "casuals."

Regardless, those big SD cards fill up pretty fast when every game needs a humongous set of patches to run decently.

I guess those of you who bought this package can look forward to another 8GB patch in the future to make the games acceptable, all while eating up more of your precious Switch storage space when the games should have been optimized from the start.

@thaimbomb I guess the more power consoles need better GPUs too, seeing as how every version of this release is reportedly suffering similar problems. It's definitely an issue of modern GPUs not being able to handle 20-year old games and not poor optimization, right?

@Clyde_Radcliffe @WarioOfTheYear sheds tear

This is why we don't ever want Nintendo to ever go third party

Isn't the game's price normally included in the game profile above? I feel like it usually is.

Would be nice if it also mentioned the file size from the eShop.

Like the two people above me have said, please give Hamster anything it wants. It takes proper care of everything it gets, and like EarthboundBenjy said, it's the closest thing to Virtual Console.

This is only good news.

I was inches away from getting the Arcade Archives version a few weeks ago, now I'm glad that I didn't. I prefer the pixel look of the original, but the art style of the remake isn't totally off-putting. Like others said, hopefully they find away to throw in the ROM of at least one of the SNES, Genesis or Arcade versions.

I'm a simple man. You tell me that a compilation of great games are all on one Switch cart with no codes, I jump on it, like the Subnautica and Metro Redux packs.

Gotta reward those publishers that know what being customer-friendly means.

If you feel like the length doesn't justify the price, then just put it on your wishlist and wait for a sale.

I'm all for shorter games that don't needlessly pad themselves out. I feel like most games these days are too long for that reason.

@Purgatorium The three GBA games (Circle of the Moon, Aria of Sorrow, Harmony of Dissonance) are all pretty much just like SotN. Lots of discovery, backtracking, leveling up, gaining new abilities and opening up new paths.

Can't say if the new games "fixed the problems" because I don't know what you found to be a problem, but if you're not a fan of those types of games in general (Metroidvanias), then I can't promise you'll like these.

The good news is that Konami games go on sale often enough for about 50 percent off, so don't feel like you have to jump right in if you decide to give them a try.

@BloodNinja B-b-b-but you said our voice doesn't matter and I'm going to cry when the game's servers shut down soon!

@Purgatorium I sincerely apologize for misinterpreting your comment. My bad on that one.

@Mgalens We're both talking to angry little brick walls that get off on pointing and laughing at faceless people on the Internet to feel better about themselves. They do the same thing in every single Pokemon article.

@BloodNinja I've already let you know what you can do for me, boo. Recommend some better games of a similar ilk, since you've made it your life's work to get people to play other games. If I didn't like Mario Party or Mario Kart, I'd tell people about Dokapon Kingdom or Sonic All-Star Racing instead of pointing and laughing at them from behind my keyboard and online persona. Now I'm starting to see why you like pretending to be a ninja edgelord - you like to hide behind the anonymity that the Internet provides you to act out your bad little behavioral impulses.

@BloodNinja Not pouting over a game, honey lamb. But how much more childish does it seem to pout over a fanbase? I can only imagine what folks like you will do once you realize that a multi-billion dollar enterprise won't be going anywhere for a long, long time!

@Purgatorium Yep, welcome to the comments section, where troubled little boys love to exercise their free speech, but get their feelings hurt when someone else exercises that same free speech to criticize their free speech.

You'll do just fine here.

@BloodNinja Was there some point you had in mind? Like, every time you tell people to play a better game, how often do you recommend games that you consider better? Maybe you could try and share some better games that offer similar gameplay, hmm? Seems much more constructive than telling others that their games suck because you personally don't like them, but hating things that don't appeal to your personal interests is kind of your thing.

Yes, the game was like this before Covid restrictions. Doesn't change the fact that it became a better game because of the QoL implementations due to Covid, and it got more people playing because of it, as evidenced by the fact that the game just had it's most successful year ever from an income standpoint. It's not "some arbitrary change to a game" either: it literally enabled people who found it difficult to play before into being able to keep up with the rest and take full advantage of gameplay and events. You might know that if you actually bothered to read the content in the article instead of skipping straight to the comment section so you can leave one of the earliest comments and feel heard.

@BloodNinja Nope, you're just losing sleep over the people playing it. Every time there's a new GO article posted, you and people like HeavyArms55 can be relied upon to come in and trash talk the minority of the fanbase that dares to express some passion about the game, then tell folks to play different games just for having criticisms of it, most of which are valid.

Between that and your comments on the article about inclusion in Nintendo games, it's pretty clear that anything that isn't NINJA APPROVED isn't welcome here.

@BloodNinja Or maybe we are into it, and we would like for the game's developer to revert back to certain QoL that made the game better? I know this may sound crazy, but every once in a while a passionate fanbase may actually have valid points.

How about instead of telling other people what to like and how to spend their time, you actually make better use of your time by playing one of those thousands of better games?

@SwitchVogel This isn't like Brexit, where the casual player might not even notice half of the existing content from previous generations missing because they only care about the keys jangling in front of them. This isn't just the loud minority of longtime passionate fans.

These changes absolutely effect the majority of people who boot up GO at all, no matter where they lie on the casual/hardcore spectrum.

And as others have said, these changes in many ways inhibits the community from being more active instead of encouraging it. I find myself playing less and less over the past week because it is now more of a challenge for me to get to Pokestops and gyms that were once not too big of a deal. It makes it harder for me to collect resources needed to catch 'em all, so I'm often left with nothing to do. So I just stop playing. More than some of the various bugs I'd like to see fixed, this is how Niantic keeps me from investing more time and potential disposable income into the game.

Glad I held off on biting on digital sales and holding off on the standalone physical releases now. $50 for two great games all on one cart is a lot more tempting than any other iteration of their availability on Switch.

@TheMadManSFX The subject of offensive Native American caricatures in media deserves its own article and discussion itself. The problem with asking or trying to survey people who identify as NA is that just about anyone can claim to be, and because we all come from different walks of life and should treat everyone's opinions and lived experiences as valid, it's a lot easier to find people who can claim NA ancestry yet still identify as another race (like me) or grew up in surroundings that didn't give them any sort of attachments to their heritage (also like me). This causes their voices, opinions and votes to often drown out those that have no other identity or culture to turn to.

This old bit from The Daily Show gets the point across nicely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loK2DRBnk24

Let's take the framing away from First Nations people and use a much bigger minority group, the LGBTQ+. Remember/Ever heard of Ash from Streets of Rage 3? If not, please look do a Google/YouTube search to see what I mean. Ash came about as someone's horribly limited understanding and view of a queer person in the early 90s. Sadly, that's how a lot of people viewed the queer community in the 90s, and Ash only served to perpetuate stereotypes through an offensive caricature. Imagine if fictional caricatures like Ash and Poison were the largest representation that the LTBTQ+ people had to go on today, and society at large told them that they should be satisfied with it?

@hillyarb "I just don't understand what is wrong with Mario the way it is? I don't see anyone living in Wakanda outside of Wakandas and nobody has an issue with that."

That is possibly the worst example you could have drummed up. Assuming you're going off of the MCU movie, you didn't see foreigners in Wakanda because they had a giant secret to protect that had global, history-altering implications if the word got out. The country kind of had to stay homogeneous - until the end of the movie.

Where are the similar examples in Hyrule or the Mushroom Kingdom?

"Yes, some of us are middle-aged and remember wanting a SEGA CD more than oxygen to breathe."

That and the Atari Jaguar are the two biggest things I'm glad Mom said no to in my life. And letting me die my hair platinum like Sisqo.

@HannahRPG

So I tested with Pidgeot, and yeah, it appears that you have to pay the initial high cost with each individual mon, but after they've mega evolved once, that cost is reduced by 1/5th. I also noticed that I was earning extra candy every time I caught something of the same type as Pidgeot; it probably is Mega Candy, but I haven't confirmed that yet. But if that's the case, then yeah, once you get past the initially high fence, it ain't so bad.

I'd probably still prefer a tweaked system that allows you to Mega Evolve a Pokemon for free once a day, just for much less time, but now that I have a much better understanding of how it currently works, I'm content with it now. This will absolutely increase the range of three star raids I can solo now.

Thanks again for the tips!

@HannahRPG

I had no idea that the costs for Mega Energy were drastically reduced after the first time a mon mega evolves; I figured that it would stay that way for good. I certain don't recall the game explaining it that well.

Now that I know this, I may go ahead and mega evolve something like Beedrill and test it out to see how feasible it works for me. I can certainly live with spending an entire day with one of them as my buddy to earn up the energy for next time, especially on things that are next to useless without it.

@Travisemo007 @Snaplocket My first experience with an auto-battle feature was all the way back with Phantasy Star II. Like you said, tedious gameplay, tough difficulty, hella grinding required, and a lot of the time the only real option is basic attacks when slogging through dungeons.

If developers feel that an auto-battle feature is necessary in their game, then they probably need to fix the mechanics of the game so it's not necessary.

Not saying D6 is in anyway bad, but that's just the camp that I'm in.

@spinalzombie Thank you for clarifying; I went from planning to get a physical copy to deciding to wait until it's at least half-off in the eShop if I ever get it at all, now back to planning to eventually get it on cart, so long as the full single-player experience is all on cart.

@Heavyarms55 I actually enjoy the PvP and find that there is a bit of strategy and planning to it, but otherwise totally agree about the mega evolution system implementation. The few Pokemon that I can actually mega evolve, I never do, because I always feel like I should be saving the resources for something better. Likewise, I don't waste raid passes on Mega Raids because I don't consider the rewards worth it over even a three-star raid.

I like the idea of just putting a cooldown on the time between mega evolutions once you earn a mon's "-ite" (like one mega evolution per day that lasts two or three hours) instead of having to grind for pittance while wasting resources to get there.

When you aren't trolling SnS critics for no apparent reason, you have some valid and well elaborated criticisms to share on your own.

"But you've read the title, you know where I'm going with this, and you probably agree with me: the Chao Garden is the best thing that the Sonic series has ever done. I can confidently say this without playing any other Sonic games, because it's just THAT good. Feel free to disagree in the comments, of course, but I am right. Sorry."

No, don't apologize for being absolutely correct. If Sonic is Inspector Gadget, then the Chao Garden is Penny & Brain.

Which one will Sega wise up and do first:

1) A Sonic game with Chao Gardens back in full force
2) Skies of Arcadia HD/Remake
3) Panzer Dragoon Saga Remake
4) A port of Sonic 1 and Sonic 2 to your smart-toaster so you can have another version of these games to play while you wait on your toast.

My money is on 4, but I'll take any of the first three.

@GameManAdvance

I am right there with you sir! The Advance Wars 1 + 2 Re-Boot was the highlight of E3 for me, and I'm now praying that this is a thing so I can finally get three steps closer to retiring my poor old GBA that I commonly have to resuscitate in order for it to read cartridges, and whose battery only lasts about 20 minutes unplugged.

I was just thinking the other day that I need to get around to getting this on Wii U. Will wait to see how the Switch version compares, but glad that it's getting a second lease on life!

@jump I've heard that Nintendo sent review copies on special bamboo cartridges so that you can tell which ones are authentic or not under UV light. We should force the reviewer to hand it over so we can inspect it.

@Heavyarms55

But you sure do care what you consider to be fake Pokemon fans have to say. You've spent a great deal of time and typing on it. I guess I'm not outraged enough and showing the requisite amount of clear opposition to your tastes to be considered an easy enough target to be worthy of your time.

Funny that you also speak of healthy behavior. I don't think turning a subgroup of a fanbase into strawmen just to bash them on the Internet from the safety of your keyboard is what I'd call healthy behavior either. You may not lurk around every CoD thread, but you sure did jump at your chance to spit on "self proclaimed" Pokemon fans the moment an article sprang up that wasn't even about Sword & Shield. Yep, really healthy behavior.

Now, to see if you stay true to your word of not caring what I have to say by refraining from a retort (a real retort, not what you think it means), or will you give in to your base tendencies and come back with something, preferably of substance this time? I'm thinking it's about 30/70.

@Heavyarms55

^ Logs on to complain about Pokemon fans with complaints about GameFreak and TPC, saying all these fans do is complain.

Derails half of the comment section in the process with this discussion and doesn't see the beautiful irony in the process.

This game has middling/mediocre reviews and a 75 percent discount half a year after release written all over it.

@Judgedean Really? Oh boy.

Want a real kick to the ribs? These Capcom games are on sale so much that you might as well consider it their normal prices. Look at the price history for Okami:

https://www.dekudeals.com/items/okami-hd

I got got like that a couple of times too in the early days of the Switch, until someone on this site told me about Deku Deals. Never again.

@nessisonett I've been in a coma for the past 15 months, and last time I checked the news, a few people were getting sore throats from some bad flu going around or something. Did something happen between now and then?

My brain read "Guardian Heroes" (the Saturn beat-em-up from Treasure), and I got excited for that.

It's important that games like this one get reviews, because if I see that thumbnail graphic and low price in the eShop, I write it off as low effort shovelware trash and never give it a chance.

@nessisonett Even funnier if it turned out to be the protagonist from the novel/Daniel Craig film Layer Cake.

@Gaeus So you think Atlus bases its time, budget and resources based on surveys with a limited scope that isn't indicative of the greater gaming community?

As I said in my first post, Atlus and Sega do this every year, but where are all the ports and new games from beloved IPs that commonly top the lists in these surveys?

And like its parent company Sega, these annual surveys will probably mean next to nothing, other than to get fans riled up over a fraction of a glimmer of hope to see ports of old games.

@nessisonett What indie devs has Nintendo swallowed up?