@shani As as side not, this guy Quorthon, has quoted Wikipedia info to me and others many many times. I don`t know that he understand, ANYONE can add info on there, certainly does not make it true.
@URAmk2 By asking for evidence, you are implying your doubt as to the capacity of the human eye to interpret more than 30FPS. I need to prove NOTHING to anyone . My niece is an Opthalmist, and she certainly knows more about the human eye than either you or I.
@URAmk2 Seriously, are you incapable of doing any research or checking on your own? Pray tell, where did you get your info about the human eye only being able to notice up to 30FPS? Jokes R US maybe? April Fools joke?
@Chubblings I apologise whole heartedly for misunderstanding what you were saying, and in the way you were saying it. Not your fault at all my friend, I need to remember to read through articles more than once, just to check for sarcasm, if nothing else.
@Chubblings Please, use some common sense. The human eye cannot see more than 30FPS???? For many many years, the British tv standard was, the pictures were updating at 50 times per second, throws out your comment. Ask any Opthalmist, I have, my niece, and you will know that around 90% of the worldwide population can easily notice the difference between 30FPS and 60FS. Why woud devs try and aim for 60FPS if people cannot notice the difference anyway, there would simply be no point.
@Chubblings Actually, if you do a bit of research, you would know differently. Around 80-86% of people (Worldwide) would not be able to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. However, around 88-96% of people (worlwide) can easily see the difference between 30FPS and 60FPS.
@Quorthon It is no small wonder, why people have such a hate on you lol. You stated there could not be another Metroid, as it was a Trilogy. You really are an armchair expert, and you certainly touch em'.
@Quorthon Your argument holds no water. The Metroid games were a trilogy, so, how do you account for Other M? Don't say it wasn't a Metroid game, as it clearly was. If the will is there, they cou,d easily create another Metroid game and insert it into tbe exisiting time line.
@Quorthon How many of those PS4 games are people going to buy? If you saturate the market, most games won't even get a look in.
Yes, the Vita is a failure. It has FAILED to become the number 1 handheld. Even Sony announced giving up support for it.
As for Nintendo bringing out a new console earlier than 2017,they would be committing virtual suicide. People that may have purchased one only a year or so ago, would naturally disgusted. I don't doubt Nintendo have made some errors with the Wii U, I am one of the first to say when I think a company has done something wrong. However, they are the only company that could support a console like the Wii U. The other 2 would not be able to, as they gave both sold off, there internal games divisions.
Anyone who literally writes Nintendo off as a console manufacturer, is either stupid, or a fan boy. The VP of Sony stated, without Nintendo, games consoles would not have the features they have today, and that the industry as a whole, needs Nintendo. Both for their innovation, which the other two normally try and copy, but usually fail but also because of their massive list of It's IP's.
We will learn a bit more about their new console at E3. Nobody outside of Nintendo knows if it is a home console, portable or a possible hybrid. An to the people who are saying Zelda U will not launch on the Wii U, both Iwata and the head guy, his name escapes me, have said it will, and gave even shown off specific features using the Game Pad. Also, no Nintendo console has ever gone through its lifetime without its own dedicated Zelda game.
@rockodoodle How can you say this year does not have the same quality games as last year? Splatoon, brand new IP, Devil`s Third, brand new IP, Mario Maker, F.A.S.T. Racing Neo, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Project Giant Robot, Project C.A.R.S., SteamWorld Heist, and many others, There are games that have yet to be announced, so to make that comment is as yet, unfounded, because we don`t know what E3 will tell us. E3 is dedicated to games coming in 2015. This year has a much bigger, and in a lot of ways, better line-up than last year.
@3MonthBeef You need your eyes testing, or try opening them. You can notice all the vibrant and colourful blacks, greys, and dusty colours of CoD, but cannot see the 1080p colours in something like Bayonetta 2? Yeah, right. Go and play The Order or Sunset Overdrive, both AAA games, both failed miserably.
@AJ_Lethal Firstly, only 2 months ago, Sony basically said they had given up support for the Vita. The Wii U is NOT the backbone of Nintendoes business right now, that would be the 3DS family. Also, of the three, the Wii U is the only console that actually produces profit on each unit sold. Microsoft are not expected to start making a profit for at least another year, more even, what with 3 price cuts in its first year. The PS4 will not make Sony any money for at least 18 months.
Sony is relying heavily on their new PlayStation Now service, which is due to be launched world wide sometime soon. Both Bloomberg's and AKL have stated, if Sony fail to get people interested in that service, and persuade them to buy a new tv with built in console, not even the PS4 will save the company. What ever assets they have left (not many, sold of most already), they would have to sell.
@NebulaGamer WOW, you must work for Nintendo. You know the actual date that Project NX is releasing. Maybe you could let Iwata and Miyamto in on it ..... another armchair expert.
@Quorthon You say there really isn`t that many games releasing for the Wii U, well, I know a few that are releasing this year:
Devil`s Third Ultratron Mario Maker Starwhal Rive Yoshi`s Wooly World Psycroir Affordable Space Adventures Splatoon Runbow Lego Jurassic Park Badlands GOTY Earthlock The Castle Game Red Goddess Life of Pixel Project Giant Robot The Swindle Lego Marvel Avengers Rodea - The Sky Soldier Form 8 Another Castle 6180 The Moon A.N.N.E. HyperLight F.A.S.T. Racing Neo Swords and Soldiers 2 Giana Sisters 2 Freedom Planet Steamworld Heist Xenoblade Chronicles X
And there are quite a few more, and a few we still don`t know about. so, before you open your mouth and let the crap drible down, do your homework, and get some fact correct.
@Quorthon Pray tell, of the many many so called next gen games on both Xbox and PS4, how many have lived up to the hype? Maybe 1 or 2. Sony maybe leading the console sales, but their biggest worry at the moment is their newly planned Playstation Now TV Service. Unless that takes off, just like the PS4, Sony are in big trouble.
Someone mentioned that the 3DS market doesn't count, as it is a singular market. Well, last time I looked, Sony had the Vita, so hardly a singular market.
People are so quick to jump on the "Let's bash Nintendo" bandwagon. Personally, and many others think the same. I will leave it to Nintendo to work out, and carry on enjoying great games that last more than 5 hours (The Order). Apart from Iwata, Miyamoto and a few other top execs, nobody knows what Nintendo is planning, and we likely will not find out any more until E3.
@Kaze_Memaryu Nintendo have said nothing of the kind about Project NX launching 2016. They said we will find out more at E3, but I, and many other sites predict a mid to late 2017 launch.
Nintendo have traditionally launched a new home console every 5 years. Why they would break with this trend is not apparent.
Please reference the article for me, which says NX is launching next year.
@accc Glad to reac you are speaking for the 'majority' of players. Have you actually asked the 'majority' of players? No, didn't think so. However, your sentence implies that you 'know' what the majority of players are going to think. Personally, I don't just go by one review/preview. I look around, find out as much as possible. Also, you are the first, and only person I have come across, that actually thought the title indicated towards the cost of the game.
Seriously, is it too much to ask that you look at other sites. The sheer fact you said what you did, indicates you had no idea what the game was about. If you had, maybe you would not have asked your question. Or, maybe you wou,d!!!!
@sisibakbak Same here. My 3DS is set to auto-download, but this game did not download by itself. I had to physically go into the e-shop and download. As the person above has stated, the article already asks how much revenue has Nintendo actually earned through this game. Your statements are not valid in this discussion, and it comes off as you just being annoyed that Nintendo are tryimg different ideas.
Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but Nintendo have been trying new ideas for many many years now. It usually ends with the competition trying to copy them, and usually failing miserably. I have not laid out any cash on this game at all. I am up to level 74 I believe, and I think I have caught around 50 of the Pokemon. For a quick 10-20 minute blast, I think it is an 'ok' game.
I doubt very mucb if this is tne type of game that Nintendo is thinkimg of putting on mobile devices, althougn, it would be perfect for touch devices. If done right, mobile games could be very good fkr Nintendo. Imagine a really cut down version of MK8, with 3 characters, 3 tracks and a tournament. Once the player has completed everything, an advert pops up saying something like, 'If you liked this, you WILL LOVE the full MK8'. It would then go on to describe what the full game has, and then says, 'And you can only play it on Wii U'. It is just an idea, but I think it is one way Nintendo could approach the mobiile scene. Maybe the uptake rate wouldn't be enormous, but any increase in home console sales can only be a good thing.
@Dr_Corndog Exactly, which is why I have a Wii U and a gaming PC. Of course it would be great to have some extra third parties on board. However, I look at the majority of the AAA titles on the other 2 consoles, and none of them have lived up to the massive hype behind them.
@Yorumi If you are talking about not going onto mobile devices, that was the view of Iwata, and he stated that many times. It in no way reflected the thoughts and wishes of the shareholders. They are the ones who ultimately have the power to move a company in a certain direction.
@OMGILikeTurtlez Iwata and Reggie both said in statements, that 'NX' will be hardware based. How is that just a 'cloud based' system. Seriously, people are panicking left right and centre already. Iwata and Myamoto have said they are focused on continuing support for the Wii U. Nintendo traditionally releases new hardware every 5 years. Why can't people just enjoy the great games that are already available, and the even better stuff coming later this year.
Next year, probably at E3, we will learn lots of new info about the new console. There is no way in the world, Nintendo is going to release a new machine before mid to late 2017, as they know they will burn a large najority of their dedicated fan base. Already with the Wii U, and the 3DS, Nintendo are trying new ideas, and opening up new ways of playing and buying games, including cross buy. I personally think they are testing the waters for their next machine, which I believe will incorporate most of, if not all the features of the other two consoles, as well as new innovative ideas that we have come to expect from Nintendo. The gaming world in general looks to Nintendo to drive gaming forward, and this has been proved time and time again, with the other two trying to copy what Nintendo do, but usually failing miserably.
@ElkinFencer10 I can't see this having any real effect on the ability of Nintendo to still produce the amazing and varied titles it does for its home consokes. With DeNPA handling the front end of the mobile business, Nintendo would need only to set up maybe one or two small groups, whose sole purpose is creating/porting games to mobile decices.
It could be really great, if handled properly. Firstly, they cannot put any of their MAJOR IP's onto mobile devices, as they require the precision control you can only get from analogue controls. However, imagine this. Say they made a really cut down version of MK8, with 3 cars, 3 characters and 3 tracks. After the player had finished playing it, an advert pops up saying, 'If you liked this, you will LOVE THE FULL MK8'. It then goes on to list all the features of the full version, and also says, 'And you can only play it on Wii U'. There are millioms of people who play games only on their phones and/tablets. If done properly, this could convince a large proportion of those gamers to actually go out and buy a console, to buy a Wii U.
That is just my opinion, and people are going to disagree, and I respect that. I just think it could be a very lucrative way for Nintendo to not only make money on the mobile games, but also in increased console sales.
This could actually be a good thing, if done properly. Imagine they release a mini version of MK8, with 3 tracks and 3 vehicles. You don't get any tournaments. Once people have finished playing, there could be an advert saying something like, 'If you liked this, you are going to love the FULL MK8 ONLY ON WII U'. It then goes on to explain what extra features the full version has.
Most of their current IP's just would not work on touch screen phones and tablets. Many games require that intricate control and precision. But, like I said, releasing mini versions of certain games, with adverts at the end showing what the full version offers, and that it can only be played on the Wii U could be a good way of getting younger, and older gamers, who mainly use their phones and tablets now, back into console gaming.
@argh4430 I agree, with some of what you say. With their next console coming somstime in 2017 likely, Nintendo won't make it a massively more powerful than the other two. Yes, it will be more powerful, and offer new innovation, but this time, Nintendo are going about things differently
In the past, Nintendo have just been happy to take the word of 3rd party devs that they will produce for their console. However, now they are actually doing what Sony and Microsoft have been doing for quite some time already. They are getting devs to sign contracts, that legally bind them into releasing their latest title(s) on Nintendo's next console. This, along with them really embracing the digital download scene, paying devs to allow cross buy, and giving dev kits for free to ceveloper, can only be a positive tbing for Nintendo.
People should really be looking at Sony. Whilst the PS4 is doing well, it will not sustain Sony for tbe future. Sony is relying heavily on the Playstation Now service, which it hopes to launch world-wide sometime this year I believe. Having the console built into modern TV's, thereby negating the need to buy a physical console is a good idea to a point, but very risky.
A lot of households already have a new type of tv. Are they really going to be swayed into buying yet another one, with a console built in? A lot of the yohnger gamers use their consoles in theif bedrooms. Are parents going to fork out YET AGAIN for a big tv with a console built in? Especially if the household already has a PS4. Analysts both in the U.K. and N.A. are very sceptical about this route, and many say it could be the true making of Sony if handled well and recieved well, or it could be the demise of Sony. Only time will tell.
@ikki5 For a console to be classed as 'next'gen', the technology inside, must be at least 2 years newer than the previous consoles tech. This makes all 3 consoles 'next-gen', it is just that the other 2 chose the easy route of using PC architecture, and Nintendo did not. You coukd say this was lazy of them, but to be honest, it was the right move, in a way. Devs have been producing PC games for many years, so it should be easy to do the same with the Xbox1 and PS4. Unfortunately, due to bottle necking and Ram issues, the ability to create native 1080p games, that run at locked 60FPS has become a pronlem for them.
One of the main rrasons 3rd party devs have stopped makimg Wii U games, is the way Nintendo weng about securing these games. Both Sony and Microsoft get companies to sign contracts for a certain length of time, that demands that they release their latest titles on the new consoles. However, Nintendo were happy to just accept 'gentlemen's handshake' agreements, which have no legal binding. It is heartening to know that now, for their new console, they are actually getting companies to sign contracts.
Nintendo were very late getting into the HD scene, digital downloads, cross buy system, and some other features that the other 2 had already nailed with their previous systems. However, they are making big strides in a very short time, and are starting to embrace thse features more and more.
While I love my Wii U, and it is my 'go to' console, and I have a gaming PC for everything else, Nintendo are laying the foundations for their next console, but have said they will NOT be giving up on the Wii U. The reasons are, they believe in the machine and the tech, and what it offers, as do a lot of devs, and hundreds of Independent devs, plus they do mot want to let down/betray loyal Nintendo userz who have purchased Wii U's. Their next console will be released either mid, but more likely at the end of 2017, catching the Christmas holidays.
@MoonKnight7 If the numbers are correct, I have yet to verify them myself, they are average. However, what you said about the PS4 is not quite correct. By your words, the PS4 will be selling 376,000 units per month in NA, which I can tell you, it is not. It is obviously selling better than the Wii U, but not in those numbers. Both Sony AND Microsoft have been in trouble before, but still do it. They sometimes list consoles shipped as consoles sold, which is obviously incorrect.
@aaronsullivan I don't know where you got the idea that Nintendo is having major finacial problems. They are actually making a profit, and out of tbe three (Microsofts Xbox Division), they have the largest amount of reserves to fall back on. Don't worry that Nintendo is suddenly going to start selling off it's major IP's and such.
In fact, they are doing now, what I have been asking them to do for quite a while. Instead of keeping tbe money in the bank earning massive interest, they are now approaching certain companies, and offering to publish their titles on the Wii U. This off-sets quite a lot of money for the devs, and means they don't have to sell as many copies before they start earning a profit.
Side note, postman has just deliverex my Super Smash soundtrack cd's ....... awesome.
Bit off topic, but never mind. I know what I really want to see happen, and have been praying for it for a very long time. A first person shooter, staring Mario and all his mates and enemies.
Instead of lobbing a grenade, you could launch a red shell. I have spoken to quite a few people, and the main consensus is, it would be fantastic.
I am bored to deatth with CoD, and Battlefield is getting rediculous now. I just think it would make a brilliant new IP, and would appeal to FPS fans as well as Mario fans. Come on Nintendo, make it happen.
@dok5555555 Have been playing the 3DS version more than the Wii U vefsion. I have had no trouble with the circle pad, and actually, agree with a few other people in that, on tbe portable version, the controls are slightly better. With the circle pad and buttons being intergrated onto the handheld, there is no lag. On the Wii U, even the devs have said, there is a very slight delay with the analogue stick. It is not a game breaker, and after a while, you get used to it. Whilst I enjoy the Wii U version, at the moment at least, the 3DS is my go to version.
Just wanted to add my pennies worth. People keep on about PS and Xbkx users getting games for free each month. I had a PS4 until a short whike ago, as a lot of friends know. I also remember I had to pay a monthly fee to play and go on-line, same with Xbox. It has been proven beyond doubt, it actually costs nothing to allow players to play on-line. So, why are you paying this monthly fee? Quiye simple really. Both Sony and Microsoft use a lot of the proceeds to pay developers a lump sum, whiich then allows them to give the game to you, but you have already paid some towards that game with your monthly fee. Also, rather than being told what titles I am going to be ab,e to download, after having paid towards them, I would of liked to have been able to choose from a selection each month.
They are slow to the feature, but are catching up as quick as they can. Nintendo charges nothing for on-line play, and they are niw starting to do cross-buy, basically starting with this title. Althougn, in the past, they have a discount sytem. If you bought a cerfain game on either the 3DS or Wii U, you would get a big discount on the other version. Well, it seems liime they are starting to embrace proper 'cross buy' now, and that can only be a good thing for Nintendo users.
@123akis Hi akis, good to see you on here, as well as on Wii U. I could not agree more with what you are saying. On the Wii U we have the Moderators, who decide what is and is not appropriate (getting it wrong most of the time though). Surely, the same kind of system could be implemented with this App. It is Nintendo at their best yet again....... one step forward, and two steps back.
@Hotfusion Actually, in a recent interview, the lead designer of Bayonetta 2 had said that both he, and Platinum Games were very pleased with the sales. Even now, from the information at hand, Bayonetta 2, and I assume number 1 also, is selling around 7000 copies per week.
Only a month after its initial release, they were talking of Bayonetta related games to come. So, I doubt very much the franchise is dead. With Nintendo paying for and publishing the game, Platinum are guaranteed to get their money back, so it is a win-win situation for them. They have absolutely nothing to loose, and the possibility of many more gamers buying their niche' titles.
@Quorthon Well, to be fair, the Game Pad does include a built in microphone. Also, it could be argued that, by not supplying a certain type of headset with the machine, Nintendo are leaving it open for each individual to use their own headset, instead of having to use either a Sony or Microsoft headset. In the event of breakage, you simply buy a cheap headset, where as you would have to buy a specific headset for the other two.
However, Nintendo going with this policy kf non-communication in multi-player games is hypocritical. They even have the Wii U Chat tool, that allows people of any age to talk to other people, again, of any age. I cannot understand that they would allow this, and it also allows video of each other, which opens a whole can of possible implications, if used in the wrong way. Nintendo need to start trusting the majority of its users to behave and act properly, as they do.
@Grumblevolcano I have the digital version, as do a couple of my friends, and can honestly say, have not noticed ANY increase li loading times. If there really is, it may come down to having a physical copy, what kind of storage device you are using (internal, flash drive or hard drive). Personallly, I use a Toshiba 2TB external hard drive, and it works flawlessly.
@Quorthon If nothing else, you have certainly given both myself, and a few friends a great laugh.
Who are you to say if I owned a PS4? There were literally thousands of Xbox 1`s traded into both Game and CEX in it`s first few months. It got to one point, CEX had to refuse taking in anymore, countrywide, as they had too many to sell already.
No, I say when companies do bad things, as I stated before, but I will also praise companies for doing something that I, not anyone else, I believe is good. You are seriously misguided. It has been well known since launch that the PS4 would not start making Sony a profit for at least a year and a half. They had to sell off 2 offices, it`s lap top division, and part of it`s music division to bring the console to the market. As for the Xbox ONE, no other HOME console in history has had to have 3 (three) price drops in its first year. At its original price, it was not going to make a profit for at least a year. with the price cuts, done out of necessity, not due to massive sales, it won`t make them a profit for a while longer.
You are the kind of person who reads something on-line, and believes it straight away. You actually believe the dribble you are coming out with. as for you dismissing my point about FREE on-line, I thinks most people given the choice, would choose FREE over paid.
Your comment about the recent survey about companies producing software for consoles, those producing for Nintendo actually went up by 6%, so hardly "Did not even register". You get a lot of your info from Game Informer and other sites like them. You probably use Wikipedia for info as well. If someone added that Microsoft had shifted 20 million consoles to Wikipedia, you would gobble it up. That is another point, Microsoft got into trouble a while back, and have done it again recently. They list consoles shipped as consoles sold. At least Nintendo is open with their sales and profits and/or losses.
Sony originally said it would shift approx. 12 million consoles in 6 months, which it did not meet. Microsoft was way off their target for the first 6 months, and even the first year. I am not a fanboy, having had a PS4, still have a 360, Wii U and a gaming PC. Your comments make you sound like someone trying to defend their choice of console, be it Sony or MS.
While I will go off and have a laugh playing some quality titles, I guess you could play Drive Club, or Titan Fall or the latest Forza, all of which failed to live up to their massive hype. Never mind, you will always have your $1.50 bottle of water.
@Quorthon I have been reading some of your replies to other peoples`s statements, and seriously, you need to stop smoking what ever it is you take. Nintendo is on course to meet their sales predictions for the year, so that is one reason for them and their share holders to be optimistic. The Wii U is the ONLY console at the moment that actually makes profit, the other two won`t for at least another year or so.
So you claim to know more about the games industry than the people that actually work in it? The article that was written about 3rd party devs not creating software up to the standard of Nintendo 1st party stuff was written by a member of a large software company, but, you know better.
As for games, well, Bayonetta 2 just won Metacritic game of the year, and Nintendo Publisher of the year. Puts a lot of the so called "Nexr Gen" titles, such as CoD, FiFA, to shame.
I am first to admit when a company does something that I believe is wrong. Nintendo should never have used the name " Wii " in their latest console. there should have been more aggressive marketing, and they should have got 3rd party devs locked into contracts, like Sony and Microsoft do, rather than just relying on them to hold up their promises.
However, in the time the other two consoles have been out, there has not been one game that can actually match the quality of Nintendo 1st and 2nd party titles. Going into this year, they have a great lineup announced, with more to come. People go on about how Nintendo keeps making MK and Zelda. well, let us think how many CoD games there have been since the 360....... around 20 or so, including PC titles. Now that IS milking a franchise, that barely adds anything new each year. Nintendo users are usually older gamers, between 24-38, as was stated in a report last year. They are mainly past playing the latest run and gun games, or a new FIFA title, with just cosmetic and roster changes.
I had a PS4, and the one game I played that I actually enjoyed was a re-make, The Last of US. Now for me, that is probably one of the finest titles ever made, but it has not been followed up by yet another great game. PS4 owners waited so long for Drive Club, and it turned out like dribble. Master Chief Collection on Xbox One, turned out like dribble. Microsoft are even giving players a month of Gold free for being let down so badly.
At this moment, I would rather be a Wii U owner than a PS4 or Xbox owner. Great titles already available, more coming this year, and the only one to offer FREE on-line play. combine that with my gaming PC, and I have the best of both worlds.
@Quorthon Firstly, as of last October, Zombie U had sold jjst over 2 million copies, and HAD made Ubishafted profit. Also, an article was written a few days ago by an industry analyst, which I tend to agree with.
Many many 3rd party devs are scared of trying to lroduce for Nintendo/Wii U as they cannot match the quality offered by Nintendo themselves. Most 3rd party ports on the Wij U have been lazy, and just been run through Unity 2.4, and then touched up here and there. If devs actually took the time to work out the strengths and weakness of the Wii U, we would se much better games from 3rd partys devs. However, it has now got to the point where the DEVS dictate to the console makers what their consoles MUST have, so their job is much easier. Nintendo, not being a sheep, does not follow this trend, and rightly so. Seriously, is it too much to ask devs to actually have to learn new stuff? They get rediculous amounts of money as it is, God forbit they might have to do some extra work.
A very well known on-line review site wrote something about a year and a half ago, which is true. Using a vastly under powered console, Nintendo smashed the last generation. Now, not only devs, but review sites and the games industry as a whole wants to see another company win this generation.
Right now, Nintendo will be fairly happy with how their system has picked up over the past eight months, and they continue that momentum into this year. With the line-up we know of, it is trying to do that. We also know from Myamoto, that their are other projects in the works, that have yet to be announced. Until now, when it comes to quality titles for this generation, Nintendo is clearly winning the battle. Only time will tell if they can continue that trend. A small price cut right now would do them a massive favour. Microsoft have had three price cuts in its first year, the first home console to do so. It was not done because of massive sales, but out of necessity, and they are noew reaping the rewards. Nintendo could/must do the same, and their sales will improve, and that will attract more devs, including more of the 500 or so Independent devs who are developing for the Wii U.
@SahashraLA Actually, if you take fhe time to a little research, you would know the Wii U is the ONLY console at the moment that is actually making money with every unit sold. Microsoft having lowered their price THREE times in its first year had never been done. It was not done because of massive sales, but out of necessity.
Also, Nintendo has already stated it will be releasing another home console. It will probably be around mid to end of 2017, as Nintendo home consoles usually have a 5 year life period. Everyone said the 3DS was DOOMED, and Nintendo had made a massive mistake that would haunt them for years. Now, we have the 3DS and the new 3DS family, which is fast becoming the best selling hand-held of all time. If any company can turn their fortunes around, it is Nintendo. It is not like they are in any kind of financial problems, as they have billions of U.S. dollors just sitting in the bank. Nintendo behave just as their name says, 'LEAVE LUCK TO THE GODS', rough translation.
@jakysnakydx Sega commissioned Platinum to make the sequal for bkth Xbkx ONE and PS4. About a tnird of the way through, Sega realised they did not have the funds to complete the game and publish jt, so told Platinum to cancel the project. Platinum are STILL waiting to be paid from Sega, fkr the work they actually did.
Nintendo saw this, and jumped in. They asked Platinum if they would be prepared to create the sequal as an exclsjve for the Wii U, if Nintendo paid the development costs and published the title. Platinum obviously said yes, and also offered to do a Wii U version of the original.
The lead guy at Platinum has said on more than three occasions that I know of to both Xbox and Sony fans, 'If you think Bayonetta 2 will be coming to your system(s), you might as well ask Nintendo to put Mario and Zelda onto your consoles. It is simply not going to happen, I cannot say it any other way. If it were not for Nintendo, Bayonetta 2 WOULD NOT EXIST'.
So, that is the story behind Bayonetta 2. If either Sony or Microsoft wanted it on their respective systems, they would have to do 2 things. Firstly, approach Nintendo with a cash offer, asking for the game to be allowed on their systems. Secondly, they would have to pay Platinum to create the game, and pay to publish the game also. Neither of these is going to happen.
Platinum have openly come out and said they are happy with the sales figures of Bayonetta 2, and are hoping to work on something to do with Bayonetta this year. As they had NO outlay costs, all copies sold was pure income.
@BossBattles The Wii U IS 'next gen' The term "next gen' basically means anything that is released at least 2 years after the previous product.
Also, in what way is this game NOT 'next gen', but Knack is? Nothing on either of the other two consoles has convinced many industry experts that a true 'next gen' game has been released on either of them. The main reason being, the same titles are also being released on both the 360 and PS4, thereby showing, that the game could easily have been released on the previous consoles alone.
@Souldin Well said. Balanced, informed and non aggressive. I could not have said it better. One thing I would add is, in a recent INDEPENDENT poll, the most anticipated game at the moment is Spratton, followed closely by Xenoblade Chronicles X.
@Quorthon The exact reply one would expect from a Sony fan boy. It has been well documented that Nintendo has the largest amount of reserves out of the 3. Microsoft as a whole, certainly is worth more, however their gaming division is loosing them money left right and centre.
Sony had to sell of more than two thirds of the whole company, just to bring the PS4 to the market. One of its biggest games so far was Drive Club, and that was a disaster for an online game.
Devs having problems getting the best out of consoles for the first year or so is true, if they are brand new technology. However, both Sony and Microsoft chose to use PC architecture, so Devs cannot, and have not used that as an excuse.
There has been nothing released on either PS4 or Xbox1 that IS next gen, as the titles are also released on the previous machines. This year alone, the Wii U has had a higher meta critic score, overall for its titles than the other 2. Nintendo was announced developer of the year. Mario Kart 8 was announced sports/driving game of the year.
Many people, mainly associated with Microsoft and Sony, have been asking for Nintendo to take its games multi platform. Why, because they offer a unique experience that you can only play on their machines. Taking their games multi platform would diminish the worth of those games, and why you will never see them on another console.
At time of writing, the Vita may have had more games announced for next year. Does that actually mean there will be more games? Of course not. Nintendo has already said it has games in the works, but are not prepared to announce them yet. As for the 3DS failing, you are delusional, and the Japanese sales alone bare that out. Actually, the Wii U is the best selling home console in Japan from the latest figures.
I have far better things to do than waste time and energy trying to understand you. Playing with my daughters, and playing unique games on my Wii U, and for everything else, I gave my gaming PC. Best of both worlds.
@Quorthon Where you get your info from is beyond me. Tbe 3DS sold over 3 million units in Japan alone last year. The new 3DS has got off to a massive start, with supplies running out in days. The Xbox1 has hardly done well in Japan, even the VC of Microsoft Japan has resigned, out of embarrassment.
VGChartz are notoriously way off with their figures, and live in a make believe world. We already know Smash has sold at least 2 million consoles in North America alone. Bayonetta 2 was NEVER going to be a big seller, it is a niche market. But, by having it as a Wii U exclusive, has meant people that want/wanted to play the sequel, bought a Wii U. I had a PS4 until a month ago. Apart from The Last of Us, which I claim to be the best video game of all time, there was/is nothing to play. Also, many many devs are having the same problem as the Xbox, they are having massive problems getting games running in native 1080p and @60FPS, something the 360 and PS3 did a better job at.
Nintendo have had a very long way to catch up to the infrastructure of the other two, in terms of multi-player, HD games, as the Wii U is their first true multi-player console, and their first HD console. In the time they have had, they have come a long way, and their investment for the future is amazing. They are finally starting to spend some of their massive reserves, instead of just leaving it in the bank earning interest. As of now, there are ovef 500 Independent companies working on Wii U titles. Add to this 1st and 2nd party, tneir new GARAGE companies, of which there are around 5, there are more than enough games to last the Wii U until 2017, when their next console is likely to hit the market. The lack of true 3rd party is a blow, but out of the three, Nintendo is the only one that has the money to turn things around.....FACT. Sony has sold off all it's high street centres, half of it's music industry, and closed down 2 office building. They have also sold of their laptop division, all to try and get some money back, as the PS4 will not show a return for another year or so. The Xbox is now looking at another 2 years before showing a return, what with their latest price reduction.
As Peter Molyneux and Cliff Belzinski both said, anyone who writes Nintendo off, does so at their peril.
@electrolite77 Actually, Nintendo cluld afford to loose around 270 million dollors a year fkr the next 12 years with their reserves. Obviously shareholders would not allow this, just making a point. Also, last gen, PS3 was in third place up until the end of 2013, but does anyone think the PS3 was/is a flop? Nintendo absolutely trumped tbe last gen, with a vastly under powered console. With Microsoft and Sony both saying their consoles have a 10 year life span, they have given Nintendo the upper hand already. If they launch the next home console sometime in 2017, that will give them at least, 5-8 years on the others. Also, with Nintendo consoles having a 5 year life span usually, they would be launching their next console around the same time the other two would be launching theirs.
3rd party devs are going to come drooling back to Nintendo with their next console, and if it is a success, that momentum will continue into their next console, and the other two will be playing catch-up. Microsoft are the first console developer in history, to reduce the price of its console 3 times in its first year. This was not done because of massive sales, it was done out of necessity. Nintendo could reduce the price of the Wii U by say, 50 U.K. pounds, and they will fly off the shelves. There have been more Xbox1's traded in to CEX and Game in the U.K., then any other console, that is a worrying thought for Microsoft.
@TrueWiiMaster I have a top end gaming PC, and I can tell you, 4k gaming at a decent frame rate, minimal 30FPS is some way off yet. PC magazing did an experiment recently, using the most powerful HOME computer that can be created. They tried running some 4k capabke games, and the highest frame rate they achieved was around 12FPS. Maybe in 3-4 years, but certainly not nkw, or in the near future.
Also, both Sony and Mjcrosoft have stated on many occasions, their consoles have a life span of 10 years, and it easily feasible, with the tech they have inside them. Although they were outdated becore they even came to the market, devs will find ways of getting more and more out of the machines. Nintendo home consoles typically have a 5 year life span, so mid to late 2017 is likely when we will get to see their next console. I believe Nintendo will stick with what they have done fkr years, and think outside the box, and come up with innovative ideas. I do however, think that this time, they will talk to devs about what they want to see in the new machine, so they can produce games for it. In the past, Nintendo have created the machine, and then told the devs to do the best they can, whixh is actually how it should be. Console developers shoild not be dictated to by software devs. They just want machines that are easy to produce for, and that can make them the biggest return. Is it really asking too much for devs to have to learn how to produce for new technology? For a lot of devs, wno produce the same crap year after year, they and we know who they are, their jobs are easy enougn as it is. Do we all not strive to learn more, use our imagination more and achieve better?
Finally had a total of 10726 points. Cannot believe I have spent that much on digital downloads alone in just 2 years. Oh well, it was great whilst it lasted.
I think they should have kept it going for those that got new systems over the holidays, as a small thanks. I am sure they would appreciate it, as many of us have.
In answer to the guy who said Bioware had dev kits early enough to have created a Mass Effect Trilogy fkr Wii U. In actual fact, they only got the dev kits 6 months before the console launched. In my opinion, I think they did a great job of creating a version for the Wii U. I played it on my 360, and can say that I believe the Wii U version is superior in a few ways. Also, how can you say Zombie U was/is a crap game? Of all the horror genre titles I have ever played, it stands out as being one of the best. Again, Ubisoft, and virtually all other devs for that matter, only got dev kits around 6 months before the Wii U launched. So, to learn how to programme the console, find out it's strength and weakness points, and to create a brand new IP in 6 months, I think they did an amazing job with Zombie U.
However, as we all now know, we have been shafted many times by Ubishfted, and lied to. Putting back the release date fkr the Wii U version by another 6 months, so they can make even more use of the Game Pad. Wrong, real reason, if they had released at the same time as the other versions, they would have been going up against MK8, which they certainly did not want. When they finally decided to release it, they chose the perfect time so as ro get the least amount kf sales. Releasing between Hyrule Warriors and Smash, gives them more reason to say. 'Nintendo owners DO NOT play mature games'. Well Ubishafted, if you did not lie, actually created titles for the Wii U from the ground up, instead of putting ankther version through the Unity 2.0 engine, and then just touching up the edges, people might actually buy your software. Also, you claimed that sales of AC4 were quite low. At the time you made that statement, the Wii U version had already sold more than 200,000 more than the Xbox1 version..... see, yet another lie/exchse.
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Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Reckons "It Would Be Cool" if Rare's Banjo Was Voted in as Super Smash Bros. DLC
@shani As as side not, this guy Quorthon, has quoted Wikipedia info to me and others many many times. I don`t know that he understand, ANYONE can add info on there, certainly does not make it true.
Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Reckons "It Would Be Cool" if Rare's Banjo Was Voted in as Super Smash Bros. DLC
@NintendoFan64 When Microsoft purchased Rare, DK did not come with the package. Nintendo owns the DK IP, and a few of the other characters also.
Re: Digital Foundry Puts Splatoon's 60fps Promise to the Test
@URAmk2 By asking for evidence, you are implying your doubt as to the capacity of the human eye to interpret more than 30FPS. I need to prove NOTHING to anyone . My niece is an Opthalmist, and she certainly knows more about the human eye than either you or I.
Re: Digital Foundry Puts Splatoon's 60fps Promise to the Test
@URAmk2 Seriously, are you incapable of doing any research or checking on your own? Pray tell, where did you get your info about the human eye only being able to notice up to 30FPS? Jokes R US maybe? April Fools joke?
Re: Digital Foundry Puts Splatoon's 60fps Promise to the Test
@Chubblings I apologise whole heartedly for misunderstanding what you were saying, and in the way you were saying it. Not your fault at all my friend, I need to remember to read through articles more than once, just to check for sarcasm, if nothing else.
Re: Digital Foundry Puts Splatoon's 60fps Promise to the Test
@URAmk2 Ermm, just off hand, here is one detailed piece of information.
http://amo.net/NT/02-21-01FPS.html
Re: Digital Foundry Puts Splatoon's 60fps Promise to the Test
@Chubblings Please, use some common sense. The human eye cannot see more than 30FPS???? For many many years, the British tv standard was, the pictures were updating at 50 times per second, throws out your comment. Ask any Opthalmist, I have, my niece, and you will know that around 90% of the worldwide population can easily notice the difference between 30FPS and 60FS. Why woud devs try and aim for 60FPS if people cannot notice the difference anyway, there would simply be no point.
Re: Digital Foundry Puts Splatoon's 60fps Promise to the Test
@Chubblings Actually, if you do a bit of research, you would know differently. Around 80-86% of people (Worldwide) would not be able to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. However, around 88-96% of people (worlwide) can easily see the difference between 30FPS and 60FPS.
Re: Talking Point: What We Expect from Nintendo Direct - 1st April
@Quorthon It is no small wonder, why people have such a hate on you lol. You stated there could not be another Metroid, as it was a Trilogy. You really are an armchair expert, and you certainly touch em'.
Re: Talking Point: What We Expect from Nintendo Direct - 1st April
@Quorthon Your argument holds no water. The Metroid games were a trilogy, so, how do you account for Other M? Don't say it wasn't a Metroid game, as it clearly was. If the will is there, they cou,d easily create another Metroid game and insert it into tbe exisiting time line.
Re: Talking Point: It's Too Early to Write Off the Wii U Over The Legend of Zelda's Delay
@Quorthon How many of those PS4 games are people going to buy? If you saturate the market, most games won't even get a look in.
Yes, the Vita is a failure. It has FAILED to become the number 1 handheld. Even Sony announced giving up support for it.
As for Nintendo bringing out a new console earlier than 2017,they would be committing virtual suicide. People that may have purchased one only a year or so ago, would naturally disgusted. I don't doubt Nintendo have made some errors with the Wii U, I am one of the first to say when I think a company has done something wrong. However, they are the only company that could support a console like the Wii U. The other 2 would not be able to, as they gave both sold off, there internal games divisions.
Anyone who literally writes Nintendo off as a console manufacturer, is either stupid, or a fan boy. The VP of Sony stated, without Nintendo, games consoles would not have the features they have today, and that the industry as a whole, needs Nintendo. Both for their innovation, which the other two normally try and copy, but usually fail but also because of their massive list of It's IP's.
We will learn a bit more about their new console at E3. Nobody outside of Nintendo knows if it is a home console, portable or a possible hybrid. An to the people who are saying Zelda U will not launch on the Wii U, both Iwata and the head guy, his name escapes me, have said it will, and gave even shown off specific features using the Game Pad. Also, no Nintendo console has ever gone through its lifetime without its own dedicated Zelda game.
Re: Talking Point: It's Too Early to Write Off the Wii U Over The Legend of Zelda's Delay
@rockodoodle How can you say this year does not have the same quality games as last year? Splatoon, brand new IP, Devil`s Third, brand new IP, Mario Maker, F.A.S.T. Racing Neo, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Project Giant Robot, Project C.A.R.S., SteamWorld Heist, and many others, There are games that have yet to be announced, so to make that comment is as yet, unfounded, because we don`t know what E3 will tell us. E3 is dedicated to games coming in 2015. This year has a much bigger, and in a lot of ways, better line-up than last year.
Re: Talking Point: It's Too Early to Write Off the Wii U Over The Legend of Zelda's Delay
@3MonthBeef You need your eyes testing, or try opening them. You can notice all the vibrant and colourful blacks, greys, and dusty colours of CoD, but cannot see the 1080p colours in something like Bayonetta 2? Yeah, right. Go and play The Order or Sunset Overdrive, both AAA games, both failed miserably.
Re: Talking Point: It's Too Early to Write Off the Wii U Over The Legend of Zelda's Delay
@AJ_Lethal Firstly, only 2 months ago, Sony basically said they had given up support for the Vita. The Wii U is NOT the backbone of Nintendoes business right now, that would be the 3DS family. Also, of the three, the Wii U is the only console that actually produces profit on each unit sold. Microsoft are not expected to start making a profit for at least another year, more even, what with 3 price cuts in its first year. The PS4 will not make Sony any money for at least 18 months.
Sony is relying heavily on their new PlayStation Now service, which is due to be launched world wide sometime soon. Both Bloomberg's and AKL have stated, if Sony fail to get people interested in that service, and persuade them to buy a new tv with built in console, not even the PS4 will save the company. What ever assets they have left (not many, sold of most already), they would have to sell.
Re: Talking Point: It's Too Early to Write Off the Wii U Over The Legend of Zelda's Delay
@NebulaGamer WOW, you must work for Nintendo. You know the actual date that Project NX is releasing. Maybe you could let Iwata and Miyamto in on it ..... another armchair expert.
Re: Talking Point: It's Too Early to Write Off the Wii U Over The Legend of Zelda's Delay
@Quorthon You say there really isn`t that many games releasing for the Wii U, well, I know a few that are releasing this year:
Devil`s Third
Ultratron
Mario Maker
Starwhal
Rive
Yoshi`s Wooly World
Psycroir
Affordable Space Adventures
Splatoon
Runbow
Lego Jurassic Park
Badlands GOTY
Earthlock
The Castle Game
Red Goddess
Life of Pixel
Project Giant Robot
The Swindle
Lego Marvel Avengers
Rodea - The Sky Soldier
Form 8
Another Castle
6180 The Moon
A.N.N.E.
HyperLight
F.A.S.T. Racing Neo
Swords and Soldiers 2
Giana Sisters 2
Freedom Planet
Steamworld Heist
Xenoblade Chronicles X
And there are quite a few more, and a few we still don`t know about.
so, before you open your mouth and let the crap drible down, do your homework, and get some fact correct.
Re: Talking Point: The Legend of Zelda on Wii U May Benefit From a Delay, But It Leaves a Blockbuster-Sized Gap
@Quorthon Pray tell, of the many many so called next gen games on both Xbox and PS4, how many have lived up to the hype? Maybe 1 or 2. Sony maybe leading the console sales, but their biggest worry at the moment is their newly planned Playstation Now TV Service. Unless that takes off, just like the PS4, Sony are in big trouble.
Someone mentioned that the 3DS market doesn't count, as it is a singular market. Well, last time I looked, Sony had the Vita, so hardly a singular market.
People are so quick to jump on the "Let's bash Nintendo" bandwagon. Personally, and many others think the same. I will leave it to Nintendo to work out, and carry on enjoying great games that last more than 5 hours (The Order). Apart from Iwata, Miyamoto and a few other top execs, nobody knows what Nintendo is planning, and we likely will not find out any more until E3.
Re: Talking Point: The Legend of Zelda on Wii U May Benefit From a Delay, But It Leaves a Blockbuster-Sized Gap
@Kaze_Memaryu Nintendo have said nothing of the kind about Project NX launching 2016. They said we will find out more at E3, but I, and many other sites predict a mid to late 2017 launch.
Nintendo have traditionally launched a new home console every 5 years. Why they would break with this trend is not apparent.
Please reference the article for me, which says NX is launching next year.
Re: Talking Point: The Legend of Zelda on Wii U May Benefit From a Delay, But It Leaves a Blockbuster-Sized Gap
@Kaze_Memaryu How does the delay of Zelda U translate into project 'NX' NOT being Ninteboes next home console?
Re: Community Interview: Give Us Your Affordable Space Adventures Questions for KnapNok Games and Nifflas
@accc Glad to reac you are speaking for the 'majority' of players. Have you actually asked the 'majority' of players? No, didn't think so. However, your sentence implies that you 'know' what the majority of players are going to think. Personally, I don't just go by one review/preview. I look around, find out as much as possible. Also, you are the first, and only person I have come across, that actually thought the title indicated towards the cost of the game.
Seriously, is it too much to ask that you look at other sites. The sheer fact you said what you did, indicates you had no idea what the game was about. If you had, maybe you would not have asked your question. Or, maybe you wou,d!!!!
Re: Nintendo’s Free-To-Play Experiment Pokémon Shuffle Surpasses 2.5 Million Downloads
@sisibakbak Same here. My 3DS is set to auto-download, but this game did not download by itself. I had to physically go into the e-shop and download. As the person above has stated, the article already asks how much revenue has Nintendo actually earned through this game. Your statements are not valid in this discussion, and it comes off as you just being annoyed that Nintendo are tryimg different ideas.
Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but Nintendo have been trying new ideas for many many years now. It usually ends with the competition trying to copy them, and usually failing miserably. I have not laid out any cash on this game at all. I am up to level 74 I believe, and I think I have caught around 50 of the Pokemon. For a quick 10-20 minute blast, I think it is an 'ok' game.
I doubt very mucb if this is tne type of game that Nintendo is thinkimg of putting on mobile devices, althougn, it would be perfect for touch devices. If done right, mobile games could be very good fkr Nintendo. Imagine a really cut down version of MK8, with 3 characters, 3 tracks and a tournament. Once the player has completed everything, an advert pops up saying something like, 'If you liked this, you WILL LOVE the full MK8'. It would then go on to describe what the full game has, and then says, 'And you can only play it on Wii U'. It is just an idea, but I think it is one way Nintendo could approach the mobiile scene. Maybe the uptake rate wouldn't be enormous, but any increase in home console sales can only be a good thing.
Re: Nintendo NX Will Be About Creating "Fun New Ways To Play"
@Dr_Corndog Exactly, which is why I have a Wii U and a gaming PC. Of course it would be great to have some extra third parties on board. However, I look at the majority of the AAA titles on the other 2 consoles, and none of them have lived up to the massive hype behind them.
Re: Nintendo NX Will Be About Creating "Fun New Ways To Play"
@Yorumi If you are talking about not going onto mobile devices, that was the view of Iwata, and he stated that many times. It in no way reflected the thoughts and wishes of the shareholders. They are the ones who ultimately have the power to move a company in a certain direction.
Re: Nintendo NX Will Be About Creating "Fun New Ways To Play"
@OMGILikeTurtlez Iwata and Reggie both said in statements, that 'NX' will be hardware based. How is that just a 'cloud based' system. Seriously, people are panicking left right and centre already. Iwata and Myamoto have said they are focused on continuing support for the Wii U. Nintendo traditionally releases new hardware every 5 years. Why can't people just enjoy the great games that are already available, and the even better stuff coming later this year.
Next year, probably at E3, we will learn lots of new info about the new console. There is no way in the world, Nintendo is going to release a new machine before mid to late 2017, as they know they will burn a large najority of their dedicated fan base. Already with the Wii U, and the 3DS, Nintendo are trying new ideas, and opening up new ways of playing and buying games, including cross buy. I personally think they are testing the waters for their next machine, which I believe will incorporate most of, if not all the features of the other two consoles, as well as new innovative ideas that we have come to expect from Nintendo. The gaming world in general looks to Nintendo to drive gaming forward, and this has been proved time and time again, with the other two trying to copy what Nintendo do, but usually failing miserably.
Re: Editorial: Nintendo's Heading For a Period of Major Change, and We Can't Fight It
@ElkinFencer10 I can't see this having any real effect on the ability of Nintendo to still produce the amazing and varied titles it does for its home consokes. With DeNPA handling the front end of the mobile business, Nintendo would need only to set up maybe one or two small groups, whose sole purpose is creating/porting games to mobile decices.
It could be really great, if handled properly. Firstly, they cannot put any of their MAJOR IP's onto mobile devices, as they require the precision control you can only get from analogue controls. However, imagine this. Say they made a really cut down version of MK8, with 3 cars, 3 characters and 3 tracks. After the player had finished playing it, an advert pops up saying, 'If you liked this, you will LOVE THE FULL MK8'. It then goes on to list all the features of the full version, and also says, 'And you can only play it on Wii U'. There are millioms of people who play games only on their phones and/tablets.
If done properly, this could convince a large proportion of those gamers to actually go out and buy a console, to buy a Wii U.
That is just my opinion, and people are going to disagree, and I respect that. I just think it could be a very lucrative way for Nintendo to not only make money on the mobile games, but also in increased console sales.
Re: Guide: Everything We Know So Far About Nintendo's Deal With DeNA, Smart Device Plans and More
This could actually be a good thing, if done properly. Imagine they release a mini version of MK8, with 3 tracks and 3 vehicles. You don't get any tournaments. Once people have finished playing, there could be an advert saying something like, 'If you liked this, you are going to love the FULL MK8 ONLY ON WII U'. It then goes on to explain what extra features the full version has.
Most of their current IP's just would not work on touch screen phones and tablets. Many games require that intricate control and precision. But, like I said, releasing mini versions of certain games, with adverts at the end showing what the full version offers, and that it can only be played on the Wii U could be a good way of getting younger, and older gamers, who mainly use their phones and tablets now, back into console gaming.
Re: Reggie Fils-Aime Highlights Nintendo's Strength in Franchises, and Goal for Wii U to "Stand Up To Time"
@argh4430 I agree, with some of what you say. With their next console coming somstime in 2017 likely, Nintendo won't make it a massively more powerful than the other two. Yes, it will be more powerful, and offer new innovation, but this time, Nintendo are going about things differently
In the past, Nintendo have just been happy to take the word of 3rd party devs that they will produce for their console. However, now they are actually doing what Sony and Microsoft have been doing for quite some time already. They are getting devs to sign contracts, that legally bind them into releasing their latest title(s) on Nintendo's next console. This, along with them really embracing the digital download scene, paying devs to allow cross buy, and giving dev kits for free to ceveloper, can only be a positive tbing for Nintendo.
People should really be looking at Sony. Whilst the PS4 is doing well, it will not sustain Sony for tbe future. Sony is relying heavily on the Playstation Now service, which it hopes to launch world-wide sometime this year I believe. Having the console built into modern TV's, thereby negating the need to buy a physical console is a good idea to a point, but very risky.
A lot of households already have a new type of tv. Are they really going to be swayed into buying yet another one, with a console built in? A lot of the yohnger gamers use their consoles in theif bedrooms. Are parents going to fork out YET AGAIN for a big tv with a console built in? Especially if the household already has a PS4. Analysts both in the U.K. and N.A. are very sceptical about this route, and many say it could be the true making of Sony if handled well and recieved well, or it could be the demise of Sony. Only time will tell.
Re: Reggie Fils-Aime Highlights Nintendo's Strength in Franchises, and Goal for Wii U to "Stand Up To Time"
@ikki5 For a console to be classed as 'next'gen', the technology inside, must be at least 2 years newer than the previous consoles tech. This makes all 3 consoles 'next-gen', it is just that the other 2 chose the easy route of using PC architecture, and Nintendo did not. You coukd say this was lazy of them, but to be honest, it was the right move, in a way. Devs have been producing PC games for many years, so it should be easy to do the same with the Xbox1 and PS4. Unfortunately, due to bottle necking and Ram issues, the ability to create native 1080p games, that run at locked 60FPS has become a pronlem for them.
One of the main rrasons 3rd party devs have stopped makimg Wii U games, is the way Nintendo weng about securing these games. Both Sony and Microsoft get companies to sign contracts for a certain length of time, that demands that they release their latest titles on the new consoles. However, Nintendo were happy to just accept 'gentlemen's handshake' agreements, which have no legal binding. It is heartening to know that now, for their new console, they are actually getting companies to sign contracts.
Nintendo were very late getting into the HD scene, digital downloads, cross buy system, and some other features that the other 2 had already nailed with their previous systems. However, they are making big strides in a very short time, and are starting to embrace thse features more and more.
While I love my Wii U, and it is my 'go to' console, and I have a gaming PC for everything else, Nintendo are laying the foundations for their next console, but have said they will NOT be giving up on the Wii U. The reasons are, they believe in the machine and the tech, and what it offers, as do a lot of devs, and hundreds of Independent devs, plus they do mot want to let down/betray loyal Nintendo userz who have purchased Wii U's. Their next console will be released either mid, but more likely at the end of 2017, catching the Christmas holidays.
Re: The Nintendo 3DS Was North America's Best-Selling Hardware Platform In February
@MoonKnight7 If the numbers are correct, I have yet to verify them myself, they are average. However, what you said about the PS4 is not quite correct. By your words, the PS4 will be selling 376,000 units per month in NA, which I can tell you, it is not. It is obviously selling better than the Wii U, but not in those numbers. Both Sony AND Microsoft have been in trouble before, but still do it. They sometimes list consoles shipped as consoles sold, which is obviously incorrect.
Re: Review: Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars (Wii U eShop)
@aaronsullivan I don't know where you got the idea that Nintendo is having major finacial problems. They are actually making a profit, and out of tbe three (Microsofts Xbox Division), they have the largest amount of reserves to fall back on. Don't worry that Nintendo is suddenly going to start selling off it's major IP's and such.
In fact, they are doing now, what I have been asking them to do for quite a while. Instead of keeping tbe money in the bank earning massive interest, they are now approaching certain companies, and offering to publish their titles on the Wii U. This off-sets quite a lot of money for the devs, and means they don't have to sell as many copies before they start earning a profit.
Side note, postman has just deliverex my Super Smash soundtrack cd's ....... awesome.
Re: Koei Tecmo Says Hyrule Warriors Has Breathed New Life into the Series
Bit off topic, but never mind. I know what I really want to see happen, and have been praying for it for a very long time. A first person shooter, staring Mario and all his mates and enemies.
Instead of lobbing a grenade, you could launch a red shell. I have spoken to quite a few people, and the main consensus is, it would be fantastic.
I am bored to deatth with CoD, and Battlefield is getting rediculous now. I just think it would make a brilliant new IP, and would appeal to FPS fans as well as Mario fans. Come on Nintendo, make it happen.
Re: Review: OlliOlli (Wii U eShop)
@dok5555555 Have been playing the 3DS version more than the Wii U vefsion. I have had no trouble with the circle pad, and actually, agree with a few other people in that, on tbe portable version, the controls are slightly better. With the circle pad and buttons being intergrated onto the handheld, there is no lag. On the Wii U, even the devs have said, there is a very slight delay with the analogue stick. It is not a game breaker, and after a while, you get used to it. Whilst I enjoy the Wii U version, at the moment at least, the 3DS is my go to version.
Re: Preview: Hitting the Rails With OlliOlli on Wii U and 3DS
Just wanted to add my pennies worth. People keep on about PS and Xbkx users getting games for free each month. I had a PS4 until a short whike ago, as a lot of friends know. I also remember I had to pay a monthly fee to play and go on-line, same with Xbox. It has been proven beyond doubt, it actually costs nothing to allow players to play on-line. So, why are you paying this monthly fee? Quiye simple really. Both Sony and Microsoft use a lot of the proceeds to pay developers a lump sum, whiich then allows them to give the game to you, but you have already paid some towards that game with your monthly fee. Also, rather than being told what titles I am going to be ab,e to download, after having paid towards them, I would of liked to have been able to choose from a selection each month.
They are slow to the feature, but are catching up as quick as they can. Nintendo charges nothing for on-line play, and they are niw starting to do cross-buy, basically starting with this title. Althougn, in the past, they have a discount sytem. If you bought a cerfain game on either the 3DS or Wii U, you would get a big discount on the other version. Well, it seems liime they are starting to embrace proper 'cross buy' now, and that can only be a good thing for Nintendo users.
Re: Review: Flipnote Studio 3D (3DS eShop)
@123akis Hi akis, good to see you on here, as well as on Wii U. I could not agree more with what you are saying. On the Wii U we have the Moderators, who decide what is and is not appropriate (getting it wrong most of the time though). Surely, the same kind of system could be implemented with this App. It is Nintendo at their best yet again....... one step forward, and two steps back.
Re: Yusuke Hashimoto Outlines His Desire to Continue the Bayonetta Franchise
@Hotfusion Actually, in a recent interview, the lead designer of Bayonetta 2 had said that both he, and Platinum Games were very pleased with the sales. Even now, from the information at hand, Bayonetta 2, and I assume number 1 also, is selling around 7000 copies per week.
Only a month after its initial release, they were talking of Bayonetta related games to come. So, I doubt very much the franchise is dead. With Nintendo paying for and publishing the game, Platinum are guaranteed to get their money back, so it is a win-win situation for them. They have absolutely nothing to loose, and the possibility of many more gamers buying their niche' titles.
Re: Famitsu Article Reportedly Inks Out More Splatoon Details
@Quorthon Well, to be fair, the Game Pad does include a built in microphone. Also, it could be argued that, by not supplying a certain type of headset with the machine, Nintendo are leaving it open for each individual to use their own headset, instead of having to use either a Sony or Microsoft headset. In the event of breakage, you simply buy a cheap headset, where as you would have to buy a specific headset for the other two.
However, Nintendo going with this policy kf non-communication in multi-player games is hypocritical. They even have the Wii U Chat tool, that allows people of any age to talk to other people, again, of any age. I cannot understand that they would allow this, and it also allows video of each other, which opens a whole can of possible implications, if used in the wrong way. Nintendo need to start trusting the majority of its users to behave and act properly, as they do.
Re: The Hyrule Warriors Majora's Mask Pack DLC is Live in Europe, and Looks Glorious
@Grumblevolcano I have the digital version, as do a couple of my friends, and can honestly say, have not noticed ANY increase li loading times. If there really is, it may come down to having a physical copy, what kind of storage device you are using (internal, flash drive or hard drive). Personallly, I use a Toshiba 2TB external hard drive, and it works flawlessly.
Re: Retailer The Hut Believes The Wii U Now Has A "Respectable" Install Base In The UK
@Quorthon If nothing else, you have certainly given both myself, and a few friends a great laugh.
Who are you to say if I owned a PS4? There were literally thousands of Xbox 1`s traded into both Game and CEX in it`s first few months. It got to one point, CEX had to refuse taking in anymore, countrywide, as they had too many to sell already.
No, I say when companies do bad things, as I stated before, but I will also praise companies for doing something that I, not anyone else, I believe is good. You are seriously misguided. It has been well known since launch that the PS4 would not start making Sony a profit for at least a year and a half. They had to sell off 2 offices, it`s lap top division, and part of it`s music division to bring the console to the market. As for the Xbox ONE, no other HOME console in history has had to have 3 (three) price drops in its first year. At its original price, it was not going to make a profit for at least a year. with the price cuts, done out of necessity, not due to massive sales, it won`t make them a profit for a while longer.
You are the kind of person who reads something on-line, and believes it straight away. You actually believe the dribble you are coming out with. as for you dismissing my point about FREE on-line, I thinks most people given the choice, would choose FREE over paid.
Your comment about the recent survey about companies producing software for consoles, those producing for Nintendo actually went up by 6%, so hardly "Did not even register". You get a lot of your info from Game Informer and other sites like them. You probably use Wikipedia for info as well. If someone added that Microsoft had shifted 20 million consoles to Wikipedia, you would gobble it up. That is another point, Microsoft got into trouble a while back, and have done it again recently. They list consoles shipped as consoles sold. At least Nintendo is open with their sales and profits and/or losses.
Sony originally said it would shift approx. 12 million consoles in 6 months, which it did not meet. Microsoft was way off their target for the first 6 months, and even the first year. I am not a fanboy, having had a PS4, still have a 360, Wii U and a gaming PC. Your comments make you sound like someone trying to defend their choice of console, be it Sony or MS.
While I will go off and have a laugh playing some quality titles, I guess you could play Drive Club, or Titan Fall or the latest Forza, all of which failed to live up to their massive hype. Never mind, you will always have your $1.50 bottle of water.
Re: Retailer The Hut Believes The Wii U Now Has A "Respectable" Install Base In The UK
@Quorthon I have been reading some of your replies to other peoples`s statements, and seriously, you need to stop smoking what ever it is you take. Nintendo is on course to meet their sales predictions for the year, so that is one reason for them and their share holders to be optimistic. The Wii U is the ONLY console at the moment that actually makes profit, the other two won`t for at least another year or so.
So you claim to know more about the games industry than the people that actually work in it? The article that was written about 3rd party devs not creating software up to the standard of Nintendo 1st party stuff was written by a member of a large software company, but, you know better.
As for games, well,
Bayonetta 2 just won Metacritic game of the year, and Nintendo Publisher of the year. Puts a lot of the so called "Nexr Gen" titles, such as CoD, FiFA, to shame.
I am first to admit when a company does something that I believe is wrong. Nintendo should never have used the name " Wii " in their latest console. there should have been more aggressive marketing, and they should have got 3rd party devs locked into contracts, like Sony and Microsoft do, rather than just relying on them to hold up their promises.
However, in the time the other two consoles have been out, there has not been one game that can actually match the quality of Nintendo 1st and 2nd party titles. Going into this year, they have a great lineup announced, with more to come. People go on about how Nintendo keeps making MK and Zelda. well, let us think how many CoD games there have been since the 360....... around 20 or so, including PC titles. Now that IS milking a franchise, that barely adds anything new each year. Nintendo users are usually older gamers, between 24-38, as was stated in a report last year. They are mainly past playing the latest run and gun games, or a new FIFA title, with just cosmetic and roster changes.
I had a PS4, and the one game I played that I actually enjoyed was a re-make, The Last of US. Now for me, that is probably one of the finest titles ever made, but it has not been followed up by yet another great game. PS4 owners waited so long for Drive Club, and it turned out like dribble. Master Chief Collection on Xbox One, turned out like dribble. Microsoft are even giving players a month of Gold free for being let down so badly.
At this moment, I would rather be a Wii U owner than a PS4 or Xbox owner. Great titles already available, more coming this year, and the only one to offer FREE on-line play. combine that with my gaming PC, and I have the best of both worlds.
Re: Retailer The Hut Believes The Wii U Now Has A "Respectable" Install Base In The UK
@Quorthon Firstly, as of last October, Zombie U had sold jjst over 2 million copies, and HAD made Ubishafted profit. Also, an article was written a few days ago by an industry analyst, which I tend to agree with.
Many many 3rd party devs are scared of trying to lroduce for Nintendo/Wii U as they cannot match the quality offered by Nintendo themselves. Most 3rd party ports on the Wij U have been lazy, and just been run through Unity 2.4, and then touched up here and there. If devs actually took the time to work out the strengths and weakness of the Wii U, we would se much better games from 3rd partys devs. However, it has now got to the point where the DEVS dictate to the console makers what their consoles MUST have, so their job is much easier. Nintendo, not being a sheep, does not follow this trend, and rightly so. Seriously, is it too much to ask devs to actually have to learn new stuff? They get rediculous amounts of money as it is, God forbit they might have to do some extra work.
A very well known on-line review site wrote something about a year and a half ago, which is true. Using a vastly under powered console, Nintendo smashed the last generation. Now, not only devs, but review sites and the games industry as a whole wants to see another company win this generation.
Right now, Nintendo will be fairly happy with how their system has picked up over the past eight months, and they continue that momentum into this year. With the line-up we know of, it is trying to do that. We also know from Myamoto, that their are other projects in the works, that have yet to be announced. Until now, when it comes to quality titles for this generation, Nintendo is clearly winning the battle. Only time will tell if they can continue that trend. A small price cut right now would do them a massive favour. Microsoft have had three price cuts in its first year, the first home console to do so. It was not done because of massive sales, but out of necessity, and they are noew reaping the rewards. Nintendo could/must do the same, and their sales will improve, and that will attract more devs, including more of the 500 or so Independent devs who are developing for the Wii U.
Re: Review: Bayonetta 2 (Wii U)
@SahashraLA Actually, if you take fhe time to a little research, you would know the Wii U is the ONLY console at the moment that is actually making money with every unit sold. Microsoft having lowered their price THREE times in its first year had never been done. It was not done because of massive sales, but out of necessity.
Also, Nintendo has already stated it will be releasing another home console. It will probably be around mid to end of 2017, as Nintendo home consoles usually have a 5 year life period. Everyone said the 3DS was DOOMED, and Nintendo had made a massive mistake that would haunt them for years. Now, we have the 3DS and the new 3DS family, which is fast becoming the best selling hand-held of all time. If any company can turn their fortunes around, it is Nintendo. It is not like they are in any kind of financial problems, as they have billions of U.S. dollors just sitting in the bank. Nintendo behave just as their name says, 'LEAVE LUCK TO THE GODS', rough translation.
Re: Review: Bayonetta 2 (Wii U)
@jakysnakydx Sega commissioned Platinum to make the sequal for bkth Xbkx ONE and PS4. About a tnird of the way through, Sega realised they did not have the funds to complete the game and publish jt, so told Platinum to cancel the project. Platinum are STILL waiting to be paid from Sega, fkr the work they actually did.
Nintendo saw this, and jumped in. They asked Platinum if they would be prepared to create the sequal as an exclsjve for the Wii U, if Nintendo paid the development costs and published the title. Platinum obviously said yes, and also offered to do a Wii U version of the original.
The lead guy at Platinum has said on more than three occasions that I know of to both Xbox and Sony fans, 'If you think Bayonetta 2 will be coming to your system(s), you might as well ask Nintendo to put Mario and Zelda onto your consoles. It is simply not going to happen, I cannot say it any other way. If it were not for Nintendo, Bayonetta 2 WOULD NOT EXIST'.
So, that is the story behind Bayonetta 2. If either Sony or Microsoft wanted it on their respective systems, they would have to do 2 things. Firstly, approach Nintendo with a cash offer, asking for the game to be allowed on their systems. Secondly, they would have to pay Platinum to create the game, and pay to publish the game also. Neither of these is going to happen.
Platinum have openly come out and said they are happy with the sales figures of Bayonetta 2, and are hoping to work on something to do with Bayonetta this year. As they had NO outlay costs, all copies sold was pure income.
Re: Review: Super Mario 3D World (Wii U)
@BossBattles The Wii U IS 'next gen' The term "next gen' basically means anything that is released at least 2 years after the previous product.
Also, in what way is this game NOT 'next gen', but Knack is? Nothing on either of the other two consoles has convinced many industry experts that a true 'next gen' game has been released on either of them. The main reason being, the same titles are also being released on both the 360 and PS4, thereby showing, that the game could easily have been released on the previous consoles alone.
Re: Digital Foundry Ponders Next-Gen Hardware Options for Nintendo
@Souldin Well said. Balanced, informed and non aggressive. I could not have said it better. One thing I would add is, in a recent INDEPENDENT poll, the most anticipated game at the moment is Spratton, followed closely by Xenoblade Chronicles X.
Re: Digital Foundry Ponders Next-Gen Hardware Options for Nintendo
@Quorthon The exact reply one would expect from a Sony fan boy. It has been well documented that Nintendo has the largest amount of reserves out of the 3. Microsoft as a whole, certainly is worth more, however their gaming division is loosing them money left right and centre.
Sony had to sell of more than two thirds of the whole company, just to bring the PS4 to the market. One of its biggest games so far was Drive Club, and that was a disaster for an online game.
Devs having problems getting the best out of consoles for the first year or so is true, if they are brand new technology. However, both Sony and Microsoft chose to use PC architecture, so Devs cannot, and have not used that as an excuse.
There has been nothing released on either PS4 or Xbox1 that IS next gen, as the titles are also released on the previous machines. This year alone, the Wii U has had a higher meta critic score, overall for its titles than the other 2. Nintendo was announced developer of the year. Mario Kart 8 was announced sports/driving game of the year.
Many people, mainly associated with Microsoft and Sony, have been asking for Nintendo to take its games multi platform. Why, because they offer a unique experience that you can only play on their machines. Taking their games multi platform would diminish the worth of those games, and why you will never see them on another console.
At time of writing, the Vita may have had more games announced for next year. Does that actually mean there will be more games? Of course not. Nintendo has already said it has games in the works, but are not prepared to announce them yet. As for the 3DS failing, you are delusional, and the Japanese sales alone bare that out. Actually, the Wii U is the best selling home console in Japan from the latest figures.
I have far better things to do than waste time and energy trying to understand you. Playing with my daughters, and playing unique games on my Wii U, and for everything else, I gave my gaming PC. Best of both worlds.
Re: Digital Foundry Ponders Next-Gen Hardware Options for Nintendo
@Quorthon Where you get your info from is beyond me. Tbe 3DS sold over 3 million units in Japan alone last year. The new 3DS has got off to a massive start, with supplies running out in days. The Xbox1 has hardly done well in Japan, even the VC of Microsoft Japan has resigned, out of embarrassment.
VGChartz are notoriously way off with their figures, and live in a make believe world. We already know Smash has sold at least 2 million consoles in North America alone. Bayonetta 2 was NEVER going to be a big seller, it is a niche market. But, by having it as a Wii U exclusive, has meant people that want/wanted to play the sequel, bought a Wii U. I had a PS4 until a month ago. Apart from The Last of Us, which I claim to be the best video game of all time, there was/is nothing to play. Also, many many devs are having the same problem as the Xbox, they are having massive problems getting games running in native 1080p and @60FPS, something the 360 and PS3 did a better job at.
Nintendo have had a very long way to catch up to the infrastructure of the other two, in terms of multi-player, HD games, as the Wii U is their first true multi-player console, and their first HD console. In the time they have had, they have come a long way, and their investment for the future is amazing. They are finally starting to spend some of their massive reserves, instead of just leaving it in the bank earning interest. As of now, there are ovef 500 Independent companies working on Wii U titles. Add to this 1st and 2nd party, tneir new GARAGE companies, of which there are around 5, there are more than enough games to last the Wii U until 2017, when their next console is likely to hit the market. The lack of true 3rd party is a blow, but out of the three, Nintendo is the only one that has the money to turn things around.....FACT. Sony has sold off all it's high street centres, half of it's music industry, and closed down 2 office building. They have also sold of their laptop division, all to try and get some money back, as the PS4 will not show a return for another year or so. The Xbox is now looking at another 2 years before showing a return, what with their latest price reduction.
As Peter Molyneux and Cliff Belzinski both said, anyone who writes Nintendo off, does so at their peril.
Re: Digital Foundry Ponders Next-Gen Hardware Options for Nintendo
@electrolite77 Actually, Nintendo cluld afford to loose around 270 million dollors a year fkr the next 12 years with their reserves. Obviously shareholders would not allow this, just making a point. Also, last gen, PS3 was in third place up until the end of 2013, but does anyone think the PS3 was/is a flop? Nintendo absolutely trumped tbe last gen, with a vastly under powered console. With Microsoft and Sony both saying their consoles have a 10 year life span, they have given Nintendo the upper hand already. If they launch the next home console sometime in 2017, that will give them at least, 5-8 years on the others. Also, with Nintendo consoles having a 5 year life span usually, they would be launching their next console around the same time the other two would be launching theirs.
3rd party devs are going to come drooling back to Nintendo with their next console, and if it is a success, that momentum will continue into their next console, and the other two will be playing catch-up. Microsoft are the first console developer in history, to reduce the price of its console 3 times in its first year. This was not done because of massive sales, it was done out of necessity. Nintendo could reduce the price of the Wii U by say, 50 U.K. pounds, and they will fly off the shelves. There have been more Xbox1's traded in to CEX and Game in the U.K., then any other console, that is a worrying thought for Microsoft.
Re: Digital Foundry Ponders Next-Gen Hardware Options for Nintendo
@TrueWiiMaster I have a top end gaming PC, and I can tell you, 4k gaming at a decent frame rate, minimal 30FPS is some way off yet. PC magazing did an experiment recently, using the most powerful HOME computer that can be created. They tried running some 4k capabke games, and the highest frame rate they achieved was around 12FPS. Maybe in 3-4 years, but certainly not nkw, or in the near future.
Also, both Sony and Mjcrosoft have stated on many occasions, their consoles have a life span of 10 years, and it easily feasible, with the tech they have inside them. Although they were outdated becore they even came to the market, devs will find ways of getting more and more out of the machines. Nintendo home consoles typically have a 5 year life span, so mid to late 2017 is likely when we will get to see their next console. I believe Nintendo will stick with what they have done fkr years, and think outside the box, and come up with innovative ideas. I do however, think that this time, they will talk to devs about what they want to see in the new machine, so they can produce games for it. In the past, Nintendo have created the machine, and then told the devs to do the best they can, whixh is actually how it should be. Console developers shoild not be dictated to by software devs. They just want machines that are easy to produce for, and that can make them the biggest return. Is it really asking too much for devs to have to learn how to produce for new technology? For a lot of devs, wno produce the same crap year after year, they and we know who they are, their jobs are easy enougn as it is. Do we all not strive to learn more, use our imagination more and achieve better?
Re: Reminder: Redeem Your Nintendo Network Deluxe / Premium Digital Promotion eShop Credit Codes by 31st March
Finally had a total of 10726 points. Cannot believe I have spent that much on digital downloads alone in just 2 years. Oh well, it was great whilst it lasted.
I think they should have kept it going for those that got new systems over the holidays, as a small thanks. I am sure they would appreciate it, as many of us have.
Re: Review: Mass Effect 3 (Wii U)
In answer to the guy who said Bioware had dev kits early enough to have created a Mass Effect Trilogy fkr Wii U. In actual fact, they only got the dev kits 6 months before the console launched. In my opinion, I think they did a great job of creating a version for the Wii U. I played it on my 360, and can say that I believe the Wii U version is superior in a few ways. Also, how can you say Zombie U was/is a crap game? Of all the horror genre titles I have ever played, it stands out as being one of the best. Again, Ubisoft, and virtually all other devs for that matter, only got dev kits around 6 months before the Wii U launched. So, to learn how to programme the console, find out it's strength and weakness points, and to create a brand new IP in 6 months, I think they did an amazing job with Zombie U.
However, as we all now know, we have been shafted many times by Ubishfted, and lied to. Putting back the release date fkr the Wii U version by another 6 months, so they can make even more use of the Game Pad. Wrong, real reason, if they had released at the same time as the other versions, they would have been going up against MK8, which they certainly did not want. When they finally decided to release it, they chose the perfect time so as ro get the least amount kf sales. Releasing between Hyrule Warriors and Smash, gives them more reason to say. 'Nintendo owners DO NOT play mature games'. Well Ubishafted, if you did not lie, actually created titles for the Wii U from the ground up, instead of putting ankther version through the Unity 2.0 engine, and then just touching up the edges, people might actually buy your software. Also, you claimed that sales of AC4 were quite low. At the time you made that statement, the Wii U version had already sold more than 200,000 more than the Xbox1 version..... see, yet another lie/exchse.