FYI - I don't have a MIG cartridge, but I have considered it for my Switch. I'm probably in the minority, but I have never used a flashcart for piracy. I got a couple different varieties of flashcarts for my 3DS back in the day and simply used them to load my large physical cartridge library and have all the games available on the go. I considered doing the same for the Switch (about 100 physical games at this point), but have not yet. While I agree the use of flashcarts may not be something Nintendo likes, it is definitely not a piracy-only device.
For my use case, if Nintendo provided a way to get a digital copy of a physical game it would also solve my problem. For example, with a game inserted you can download the digital version (or copy from the card) and play without the cartridge. Maybe reverification after a certain amount of time like they do for NES / SNES / etc. Switch online use. I know having a large physical collection puts me in the minority around here, but I hate digital (other than convenience) and will never give up my game cards.
This will be the first console I don't get right away in a while. I loved the Direct, but the pricing (system + game + peripherals), primarily, has put me off for now. I'm sure I'll get one at some point but, like some others, I'll wait for a better price proposition first. If MP4 was only on Switch 2 it might be a different story, but as I can play the only game I care about on my current system I'm just fine for now.
I may be WAY off here, but is Alana's title an obscure reference to the Central Perk season 3 song "Flick of the Wrist"?? That's what it immediately brought to my mind, but it seems fairly unlikely that that's what was intended. But if so ... nice.
My favorite moment in gaming was playing Metroid Prime for the first time. Blew me away. Ocarina is way up there too, and I share a lot of the same joys as the author.
As much as I love the last two Zelda games I have to agree the temples are not up to the standard set by Ocarina.
@Nua - thanks so much! Looks complicated to import levels one by one, but it's certainly better than nothing. Would be cool if someone (no, I'm not volunteering) could produce a single archive file with all the levels downloaded and in their final format. If I have a bunch of free time someday I may try to whip something up ...
@Batmyke - I don't think it works as a dock; the product page says:
Pass-through charging (charge while you play via USB-C)
So I think it is just for charging, not actually a functional dock. (Although it would be really nice if it was ... I think the cost would be higher though.)
I too had the indigo 3rd party screen that attached to the handle. I remember taking it on trips with the DC car adapter. Yeah, it really was the original Switch ... just not nearly as easy to carry around and transport.
Nintendo can't be rewarded for this kind of pricing scheme. Although Metroid Prime is my FAVORITE GAME OF ALL TIME I'm not buying it at $40. The last time I bought the trilogy on Wii U (digital) it was on sale for $9.99. I understand effort went into remastering, but come on Nintendo!
I will wait and see if Walmart sells the physical copy at a discount ... $30 is my absolute maximum for this game despite it's awesomeness and despite it being my most wanted game on Switch. I can still play on Wii U so it's not like I'm hurting for Metroid Prime gameplay.
I've spent more money on Nintendo stuff in my life than I care to admit, and I'm a sucker for their retro games as I grew up with them. Even WITH all that, I have no desire for the expanded plan. Renting my content has never been part of my gaming hobby. I buy or I don't buy. I bought the MK8 expansion because I love Mario Kart and $25 was worth it to me to 'permanently' own. (* until they shut the servers down in 2028 of course)
I would love the convenience of N64 games on the Switch. I don't value that convenience enough to pay for it at the current rates, however. I can play most of them on the Wii U if I really want, and when that system dies it will be emulation. The only way I would be a subscriber to the expansion pass would be if I was included on someone else's plan that paid for it.
I'm glad 'most' find value in the service, but I sure am not one of them. Basic NSO for me, and that's really only for online access.
Well, at least I'm not tempted to get the higher cost membership. $50 for the worst Nintendo controller? Pass. Pay more for the ability to play a handful of N64 games that I can still play on the Wii U or Mario All-Stars? Pass. I was kind of excited for something GameBoy related but this holds no interest for me.
I still have all the hardware listed in this quiz (except those 3D glasses) and still only got 10/20. I didn't particularly enjoy the quiz if only because I don't understand why zoomed-in pictures make it fun.
@EmirParkreiner - I had the exact same experience. I had to pull up Mario 64 on VC just to confirm I wasn't crazy ... and yes, both Mario 64 and Sunshine have the controls swapped. If it was just the camera it would be bad enough but it's FOR FLUDD'S CONTROL as well in Sunshine. Unplayable is correct - insane that they would botch something this important. Ah well, if this isn't patched I'll just sell it next year for a profit thanks to the limited release. (Glad I went physical.)
If I were reviewing this game it would get a 4/10 as it currently stands. Graphical upgrades are nice, but if the gameplay is completely different from the original what's the point? Giving the option to invert the axis would bring it up to an 8/10.
I can second @wert303b suggestion. I used the process linked above to fix my joysticks and added thin tape afterward to hopefully minimize the chances of happening again. It is NOT a simple thing to do, however, and it helps if you've worked on electronics before (Joy-Cons, iPhones, etc.).
I haven't seen this mentioned yet so: the online service works great for most backups, but what about the games that it is impossible to back up / incompatible? I, for one, have hacked my Wii U and 3DS specifically to back up save files on my PC and for no other reason. As soon as the Switch has a way to back up ALL save data on a PC I'll jump at the chance - hardmods are just not my thing or I'd attempt this myself.
Everyone beat me to the price complaint, kudos! But yes, it's a 12 year old game. This was one I was super-excited for, but ... not anymore. I expected $20.
Nice, grabbed a second one - I already have one from the earlier release. Love the D-pad (and the controller in general) for all my 2D platforming games (e.g. Celeste).
With only touchscreen controls this is a pass for me. Just finished Puzzle Quest and it would have been too annoying with only touchscreen controls. If they add them in at some point I might get it.
I'm already about 20% done. I think it's fair to count the Clip Picross puzzles separately as many of them are as large as the regular puzzles. By my count there would be (9+9+3+25)*9 = 414 puzzles, but later characters may have larger Clip Picross puzzles, so 500+ is certainly possible.
I will likely be upgrading, yes. Better internals (not just battery) makes it a win for me. Besides, I can keep my old dock / joycons and resell the new ones on eBay netting me probably $200+ (when I sell my old tablet as well). Easy choice. I'll do it again if another revision appears with even better features.
@JaxonH - Just beat your level. It was good, but the end (for me) was too hard. I'm not great at flying and it was annoying to have to go collect the power ups multiple times just to practice flying a few more times. Other than that I enjoyed it.
Just saw Catan is on the eShop right now for $19.99. Says it has Seafarers and online multiplayer!! Really hoping this gets a review soon so I know whether the multiplayer is implemented well here.
I just received my mod kit last week for the SNES pad. It was fairly simple, although I forgot to transfer the d-pad rubber part initially. I have to say, it was pretty cool playing MK8 Deluxe on the Switch with an SNES controller - it worked much better than I expected!
VOEZ is no longer available on the North America eShop. I was considering buying it, but apparently missed out. Another reason I prefer physical games.
@jimi - just wanted to chime in here, although I very rarely post, to say I agree with pretty much everything you've said in this thread.
The My Nintendo program is a joke compared to Club Nintendo, and the fact that it discounts digital purchases only is useless for me except for the few indie titles I get.
I also don't understand why anyone is arguing about the devaluation of gold coins. It's pretty clear that is happening as soon as this change goes into effect. Spend any gold coins you have, now, before it happens. When it does they will be almost valueless. My current 150 gold coins will get me a whopping $1.50 off a digital purchase after the change goes through. Whoopee. I'd much rather get a bunch of free digital games NOW for myself or to resell.
I'm not allowed to purchase this game with a custom Android OS on my two devices. I would have bought long ago, but alas Nintendo is one of the few companies willing to leave money on the table for people like me wanting optimized operating systems.
Thanks for the review, I was already interested in the game and will likely grab it soon.
One question - I noticed the comment on not being able to use button controls in menus, etc., which is really annoying to me. Any idea why the Super Mario Maker 3DS review didn't mention that fact? It is SUPER annoying to me in that game since you have to grab the stylus constantly when getting medals / playing Super Mario Challenge. I know it's a different reviewer, but it would be nice if control issues like this were always highlighted.
@chrisnewman - Cool. I'm a software engineer myself so I get hardware limitations. Hope you can figure something out though. I'd be fine with a fixed character limit for scrolling while dragging, you could make the limit the longest word possible perhaps. Thanks for responding.
Also wanted to mention there's a bug (in the first game at least) where the word list is doubled at certain times, most noticeable when you're straddling two different grids. I can provide a screenshot if you need it.
@chrisnewman - I'm nearly complete with the first game, the only (major) control issue for me is not being able to complete a word if it is off the screen. The older CrossworDS and Crosswords Plus allowed you to start a word if it was anywhere on screen and automatically scrolled until finished. If you can implement that it would make the experience SO much more polished! As it stands now if even one letter is off the edge you have to stop highlighting and shift the whole screen with the pad. This is especially frustrating on the entire-screen-length words / phrases.
I don't use Twitter or Facebook so Miitomo is useless for me at present. Not having a way to add friends besides being in the same room is ridiculous. Until that happens Miitomo has no use for me since I literally can't add friends.
@Yorumi - excellent summary. As a physical game purchaser I currently have almost no use for the new My Nintendo program. But I agree, if I do participate in the gold coin stuff it will only be for small purchases that are only available digitally (e.g. some indie stuff). With the cheaper prices available constantly for physical versions (especially through membership programs like Best Buy's Gamer's Club Unlocked) it makes no sense to buy digital just to participate in Nintendo's new rewards program.
I love Picross, but am extremely accustomed to button controls and am very fast using them. If that's NOT an option I wouldn't be interested, but it sounds like it actually is based on this last comment. Can you verify?
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Re: ICYMI: Switch 2 Available For Purchase At The My Nintendo Store (US)
I'll get one at some point, likely after the first major upgrade (OLED please?)
This actually might be the first major system I did NOT get the month of release since ... I guess the N64, maybe?
Re: Nintendo's Strict Policy On MiG Carts Is Creating A Problem For Secondhand Switch 2 Buyers
FYI - I don't have a MIG cartridge, but I have considered it for my Switch. I'm probably in the minority, but I have never used a flashcart for piracy. I got a couple different varieties of flashcarts for my 3DS back in the day and simply used them to load my large physical cartridge library and have all the games available on the go. I considered doing the same for the Switch (about 100 physical games at this point), but have not yet. While I agree the use of flashcarts may not be something Nintendo likes, it is definitely not a piracy-only device.
For my use case, if Nintendo provided a way to get a digital copy of a physical game it would also solve my problem. For example, with a game inserted you can download the digital version (or copy from the card) and play without the cartridge. Maybe reverification after a certain amount of time like they do for NES / SNES / etc. Switch online use. I know having a large physical collection puts me in the minority around here, but I hate digital (other than convenience) and will never give up my game cards.
Re: Poll: So, Did You Order A Nintendo Switch 2?
This will be the first console I don't get right away in a while. I loved the Direct, but the pricing (system + game + peripherals), primarily, has put me off for now. I'm sure I'll get one at some point but, like some others, I'll wait for a better price proposition first. If MP4 was only on Switch 2 it might be a different story, but as I can play the only game I care about on my current system I'm just fine for now.
Re: Opinion: Switch's Secret Best Couch Multiplayer Game Won't Be Playable On Switch 2
Thanks for the recommendation, I own this but have yet to do the build or play it. Something to look forward to!!
Re: Talking Point: What We Expect From The Switch 2 Direct
I may be WAY off here, but is Alana's title an obscure reference to the Central Perk season 3 song "Flick of the Wrist"?? That's what it immediately brought to my mind, but it seems fairly unlikely that that's what was intended. But if so ... nice.
Re: Hideki Kamiya Wants Nintendo To Reboot Virtual Console For Switch 2
I don't care what the article's conclusion says, I HAVE TO ANSWER:
Because Sony does what Nintendon't.
(It was like leaving "shave and a haircut" just HANGING there...)
Re: Random: Have You Ever Triggered This Rare Super Mario Galaxy Dialogue?
Seeing a reference to the All-Stars release just triggers my anger over the inexplicable decision not to release Super Mario Galaxy 2 on the Switch.
Re: Soapbox: Ocarina Of Time's Deku Tree Dungeon Is Still My All-Time Top Gaming Moment
My favorite moment in gaming was playing Metroid Prime for the first time. Blew me away. Ocarina is way up there too, and I share a lot of the same joys as the author.
As much as I love the last two Zelda games I have to agree the temples are not up to the standard set by Ocarina.
Re: Random: Super Mario Maker Players Want To 100% The Game While They Still Can
@Nua - thanks so much! Looks complicated to import levels one by one, but it's certainly better than nothing. Would be cool if someone (no, I'm not volunteering) could produce a single archive file with all the levels downloaded and in their final format. If I have a bunch of free time someday I may try to whip something up ...
Re: Random: Super Mario Maker Players Want To 100% The Game While They Still Can
@Nua - archived where / how? Is there a link available to this effort?
Re: The Nitro Deck Is A Stunning Switch Controller Grip Promising "Zero Stick Drift"
@Batmyke - I don't think it works as a dock; the product page says:
So I think it is just for charging, not actually a functional dock. (Although it would be really nice if it was ... I think the cost would be higher though.)
Re: Never-Before-Seen Footage Of Scrapped Official GameCube LCD Screen Uncovered
I too had the indigo 3rd party screen that attached to the handle. I remember taking it on trips with the DC car adapter. Yeah, it really was the original Switch ... just not nearly as easy to carry around and transport.
Re: 39 Best 3DS eShop Games You Should Get Before They're Gone Forever
The games that are no longer on the eShop should really be removed to save people's time who go looking for them. For example:
SpeedThru: Potzol's Puzzle
50 Pinch Barrage
Re: Where To Buy Metroid Prime Remastered On Switch
Nintendo can't be rewarded for this kind of pricing scheme. Although Metroid Prime is my FAVORITE GAME OF ALL TIME I'm not buying it at $40. The last time I bought the trilogy on Wii U (digital) it was on sale for $9.99. I understand effort went into remastering, but come on Nintendo!
I will wait and see if Walmart sells the physical copy at a discount ... $30 is my absolute maximum for this game despite it's awesomeness and despite it being my most wanted game on Switch. I can still play on Wii U so it's not like I'm hurting for Metroid Prime gameplay.
Re: Nintendo President Says "Most" North American Switch Online Users Have Upgraded To The Expansion Pack
I've spent more money on Nintendo stuff in my life than I care to admit, and I'm a sucker for their retro games as I grew up with them. Even WITH all that, I have no desire for the expanded plan. Renting my content has never been part of my gaming hobby. I buy or I don't buy. I bought the MK8 expansion because I love Mario Kart and $25 was worth it to me to 'permanently' own. (* until they shut the servers down in 2028 of course)
I would love the convenience of N64 games on the Switch. I don't value that convenience enough to pay for it at the current rates, however. I can play most of them on the Wii U if I really want, and when that system dies it will be emulation. The only way I would be a subscriber to the expansion pass would be if I was included on someone else's plan that paid for it.
I'm glad 'most' find value in the service, but I sure am not one of them. Basic NSO for me, and that's really only for online access.
Re: Random: Tired Of Waiting For An N64 Switch Controller? There's Another Option
Does anyone know if this will also work on the Wii U?
Re: Nintendo 64 And Sega Genesis Expansion Pack Announced For Switch Online, Launches This October
Well, at least I'm not tempted to get the higher cost membership. $50 for the worst Nintendo controller? Pass. Pay more for the ability to play a handful of N64 games that I can still play on the Wii U or Mario All-Stars? Pass. I was kind of excited for something GameBoy related but this holds no interest for me.
Re: Can You Name All This Nintendo Hardware?
I still have all the hardware listed in this quiz (except those 3D glasses) and still only got 10/20. I didn't particularly enjoy the quiz if only because I don't understand why zoomed-in pictures make it fun.
Re: Video: There Are Changes In Super Mario 3D All-Stars, And We've Found 35 Of Them
One difference in Mario 64 not mentioned: camera control is also changed from the original (non-inverted vs original inverted).
Re: Review: Super Mario 3D All-Stars - Three Of Mario's Greatest Adventures Come To Switch
@EmirParkreiner - I had the exact same experience. I had to pull up Mario 64 on VC just to confirm I wasn't crazy ... and yes, both Mario 64 and Sunshine have the controls swapped. If it was just the camera it would be bad enough but it's FOR FLUDD'S CONTROL as well in Sunshine. Unplayable is correct - insane that they would botch something this important. Ah well, if this isn't patched I'll just sell it next year for a profit thanks to the limited release. (Glad I went physical.)
If I were reviewing this game it would get a 4/10 as it currently stands. Graphical upgrades are nice, but if the gameplay is completely different from the original what's the point? Giving the option to invert the axis would bring it up to an 8/10.
Re: Cheap, Simplistic Puzzler Get 10 Quest Could Be Your Next Addiction On Switch
I hope there's a non-touchscreen option. If not it's kind of a deal-breaker for me.
Re: Guide: How To Fix A Drifting Nintendo Switch Pro Controller
I can second @wert303b suggestion. I used the process linked above to fix my joysticks and added thin tape afterward to hopefully minimize the chances of happening again. It is NOT a simple thing to do, however, and it helps if you've worked on electronics before (Joy-Cons, iPhones, etc.).
Re: Nintendo Targets Switch Modchip Installation Service In Latest Legal Crackdown
I haven't seen this mentioned yet so: the online service works great for most backups, but what about the games that it is impossible to back up / incompatible? I, for one, have hacked my Wii U and 3DS specifically to back up save files on my PC and for no other reason. As soon as the Switch has a way to back up ALL save data on a PC I'll jump at the chance - hardmods are just not my thing or I'd attempt this myself.
Re: Burnout Paradise Remastered Could Be Speeding Onto The Switch This June
Everyone beat me to the price complaint, kudos! But yes, it's a 12 year old game. This was one I was super-excited for, but ... not anymore. I expected $20.
Re: Reminder: Nintendo's Wireless SNES Controllers Are Back In Stock (North America)
Nice, grabbed a second one - I already have one from the earlier release. Love the D-pad (and the controller in general) for all my 2D platforming games (e.g. Celeste).
Re: Reminder: Puzzle & Dragons GOLD Is Out Today, Celebrate Its Launch With A Limited-Time Discount
With only touchscreen controls this is a pass for me. Just finished Puzzle Quest and it would have been too annoying with only touchscreen controls. If they add them in at some point I might get it.
Re: Review: Picross Lord Of The Nazarick - Solid Puzzling With A Shoehorned Story
I'm already about 20% done. I think it's fair to count the Clip Picross puzzles separately as many of them are as large as the regular puzzles. By my count there would be (9+9+3+25)*9 = 414 puzzles, but later characters may have larger Clip Picross puzzles, so 500+ is certainly possible.
Re: Soapbox: Should I Wait For Switch 'Pro' Or Is The 'New' Switch SKU Worth An Upgrade?
System save transfer works for all games. Cloud saves only work for most.
Re: Soapbox: Should I Wait For Switch 'Pro' Or Is The 'New' Switch SKU Worth An Upgrade?
I will likely be upgrading, yes. Better internals (not just battery) makes it a win for me. Besides, I can keep my old dock / joycons and resell the new ones on eBay netting me probably $200+ (when I sell my old tablet as well). Easy choice. I'll do it again if another revision appears with even better features.
Re: Video: Amazing Zelda Levels In Super Mario Maker 2 That Are Wonderfully Wholesome
@JaxonH - Just beat your level. It was good, but the end (for me) was too hard. I'm not great at flying and it was annoying to have to go collect the power ups multiple times just to practice flying a few more times. Other than that I enjoyed it.
Re: Nintendo Download: 20th June (North America)
Just saw Catan is on the eShop right now for $19.99. Says it has Seafarers and online multiplayer!! Really hoping this gets a review soon so I know whether the multiplayer is implemented well here.
Re: Here Are The Top 10 Best-Selling Games For Wii U, 3DS, Wii And Nintendo DS (As Of September 2018)
Anyone else surprised BOTW didn't make the list on Wii U?
Re: Video: Modding Old Retro Controllers to Work on Switch with 8Bitdo DIY
I just received my mod kit last week for the SNES pad. It was fairly simple, although I forgot to transfer the d-pad rubber part initially. I have to say, it was pretty cool playing MK8 Deluxe on the Switch with an SNES controller - it worked much better than I expected!
Re: Review: VOEZ (Switch eShop)
VOEZ is no longer available on the North America eShop. I was considering buying it, but apparently missed out. Another reason I prefer physical games.
Re: Video: 9 Mario Games We Wish had Never Existed
Kudos on the SMB 2 inclusion. I wholeheartedly agree!
Re: Rejoice, Soon You'll Be Able To Use Your My Nintendo Gold Points On The Switch eShop
@jimi - just wanted to chime in here, although I very rarely post, to say I agree with pretty much everything you've said in this thread.
The My Nintendo program is a joke compared to Club Nintendo, and the fact that it discounts digital purchases only is useless for me except for the few indie titles I get.
I also don't understand why anyone is arguing about the devaluation of gold coins. It's pretty clear that is happening as soon as this change goes into effect. Spend any gold coins you have, now, before it happens. When it does they will be almost valueless. My current 150 gold coins will get me a whopping $1.50 off a digital purchase after the change goes through. Whoopee. I'd much rather get a bunch of free digital games NOW for myself or to resell.
Re: Super Mario Run Has a Major Update and Discount on the Way
I'm not allowed to purchase this game with a custom Android OS on my two devices. I would have bought long ago, but alas Nintendo is one of the few companies willing to leave money on the table for people like me wanting optimized operating systems.
Re: Review: Shift DX (3DS eShop)
Thanks for the review, I was already interested in the game and will likely grab it soon.
One question - I noticed the comment on not being able to use button controls in menus, etc., which is really annoying to me. Any idea why the Super Mario Maker 3DS review didn't mention that fact? It is SUPER annoying to me in that game since you have to grab the stylus constantly when getting medals / playing Super Mario Challenge. I know it's a different reviewer, but it would be nice if control issues like this were always highlighted.
Re: Review: Epic Word Search Collection 2 (3DS eShop)
@chrisnewman - will do that later tonight, thanks!
Re: Review: Epic Word Search Collection 2 (3DS eShop)
@chrisnewman - Cool. I'm a software engineer myself so I get hardware limitations. Hope you can figure something out though. I'd be fine with a fixed character limit for scrolling while dragging, you could make the limit the longest word possible perhaps. Thanks for responding.
Also wanted to mention there's a bug (in the first game at least) where the word list is doubled at certain times, most noticeable when you're straddling two different grids. I can provide a screenshot if you need it.
Re: Review: Epic Word Search Collection 2 (3DS eShop)
@chrisnewman - I'm nearly complete with the first game, the only (major) control issue for me is not being able to complete a word if it is off the screen. The older CrossworDS and Crosswords Plus allowed you to start a word if it was anywhere on screen and automatically scrolled until finished. If you can implement that it would make the experience SO much more polished! As it stands now if even one letter is off the edge you have to stop highlighting and shift the whole screen with the pad. This is especially frustrating on the entire-screen-length words / phrases.
Re: Editorial: Miitomo is Surprisingly Strange and Compelling
I don't use Twitter or Facebook so Miitomo is useless for me at present. Not having a way to add friends besides being in the same room is ridiculous. Until that happens Miitomo has no use for me since I literally can't add friends.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think of My Nintendo and Miitomo?
@Yorumi - excellent summary. As a physical game purchaser I currently have almost no use for the new My Nintendo program. But I agree, if I do participate in the gold coin stuff it will only be for small purchases that are only available digitally (e.g. some indie stuff). With the cheaper prices available constantly for physical versions (especially through membership programs like Best Buy's Gamer's Club Unlocked) it makes no sense to buy digital just to participate in Nintendo's new rewards program.
Re: Interview: Solving the Puzzle of PixlCross on Wii U
@PixlBitStudios - Nice! It's an instant buy for me with button controls, so I'll be monitoring for updates. Thanks for the quick response!
Re: Interview: Solving the Puzzle of PixlCross on Wii U
I love Picross, but am extremely accustomed to button controls and am very fast using them. If that's NOT an option I wouldn't be interested, but it sounds like it actually is based on this last comment. Can you verify?