The long-rumoured Switch Lite is taking Nintendo’s hybrid console concept, dumping the ‘hybrid’ bit and going full ‘PlayStation Vita’. Leaving aside the fact that you should never go full PlayStation Vita (can we expect Nintendo to swiftly pull all support, disown the console and leave it to third parties to fill it with saucy visual novels?), the announcement was met with enthusiasm from many, although it’s personally not for me and introduces enough caveats to dissuade me from an impulse purchase. The bezel’s a bit too thick, the colours too conservative, not to mention the fact that it doesn’t ‘Switch’ anymore.
Switch Lite simply sacrifices too much of what I love about the Switch. The current screen size feels perfect already, and while the console isn’t pocket-sized, you wouldn’t catch me throwing it in with my keys and loose change anyway. Add to that the fear that those analogue sticks may be no better than their Joy-Con counterparts and it’s an easy pass (unless that Game Boy livery became official – then I’d have to reevaluate). For now, the original SKU is still the one for me.
Or is it? The Switch Lite announcement was soon followed by news that the standard Switch is also getting a revision on the quiet which will improve the unit’s battery life. This, too, had been rumoured, but I’d assumed the improvements would be negligible and the primary reason for the update would be to close the security holes in the original chipset.
But no – battery life is significantly improved on this upcoming model, jumping from the old minimum of 2.5 hours (when you’re really gunning it on a power-hungry game) to at least 4.5 hours. According to Nintendo’s estimates, playing something less strenuous with WiFi off and the brightness low should get you a whopping 9 hours of gameplay from a single charge, up from 6.5 for the current model.
According to the specs, the battery seems to be unchanged, so we can assume that the revised ‘Mariko’ version of the Tegra X1 chipset reportedly buried in the Switch Lite’s smaller case (enabling cooler running and thus its smaller form factor) is being put to work in this regular Switch update.
Now, don’t get me wrong – I’m very happy with my Switch. It’s by no means perfect (as evidenced by the various Joy-Con issues and other warping quirks of the hardware that many have encountered), but what launch hardware is perfect? Early adopters inevitably end up with hotter, noisier units than those who wait a year or two for a revision to filter through the manufacturing pipeline, but that’s the price of jumping onboard on Day One. Its pick-up-and-play nature fits in with my life far better than a conventional home console – I’d love to play more Forza Horizon 4, but the last four times I’ve sat down for a half-hour blast, my brief window of opportunity was stolen by interminably long mandatory updates.
Nope, minor issues aside, my Switch is holding up remarkably well. However, the promise of a shiny new unit with a hefty jump in battery life is very tempting, especially if it runs cooler and potentially avoids some of the issues that have befallen colleagues’ systems at Nintendo Life Towers. My Switch gets mighty hot in that dock sometimes and after over two years of heavy use, a refresh is an attractive prospect. I'd also get a fresh pair of Joy-Con, which should keep me from having to crack out the tri wing screwdriver for a few months at least.
It’s perhaps worth mentioning that I’ve got form in this area; I owned three 3DSs over the course of that system’s life, starting with Aqua launch unit, upgrading to a red and black XL before finding the happy medium with a New 3DS. I could easily have gone for a fourth had I found the beautiful SNES-themed New 3DS XL for a sensible price.
Each of those upgrades represented something substantial, though. A HAC-001(-01) Switch isn’t cosmetically different in any way from my current console, and it almost certainly won’t offer performance improvements beyond better thermals and battery life. I know all this, but still… new hardware! The obvious answer is simply to wait for the inevitable ‘Pro’ variant and ignore this ‘silent’ internal revision, but there’s another factor clouding the issue: Animal Crossing: New Horizons.
Arriving in March, it’s highly likely that several family members will take the plunge into the Switch pool for Animal Crossing alone – no fewer than three of them bought a 3DS just to play the last entry in the series. The Switch Lite will be the cheapest option for them, but the ability to throw the game on the TV and share it by snapping off the Joy-Con is a novelty I think would go down very well. Then again. dropping another hundred notes might be too much of a deterrent.
Fortunately for all involved, I am here to selflessly – gallantly, even – offer another way to share the joy(con). For argument’s sake, say I sold one of them my used Switch for the price of a Lite; a bargain, I’m sure you’d agree. I could then make up the rest to get a shiny 'new' Switch with the most modest of upgrades. More to the point, my tragic gamer self would have that most valuable thing: peace of mind that I’ve got the ‘best’ SKU going.
I know, I know – you’re all thinking I’m crazy and I should just sit tight for a true revision. I imagine, though, that there’ll be some readers in a similar position. After all, I wasn’t the only one to buy three 3DSs, and I dare say there are a bunch of people out there that bought even more. Those readers will be itching to find a way to upgrade to the new SKU and take advantage of its extra battery life, stretching to justify a purchase that, on paper, simply isn’t worth it. You people understand me. Sure, the ‘Pro’ is likely coming next year, but that’s next year – what about now?!
It’s a poser. My head and my heart are going in opposite directions. Of course, it’s inevitable that I’ll pick up the Switch ‘Pro’ when that comes along, too, so this stopgap ‘upgrade’ is even less meaningful. And has the current model’s battery life ever been a real issue for me? Probably not, but let’s not cloud the decision with inconvenient things like ‘facts’! The probability is that my heart will win out and I’ll end up opening up a brand new-old Switch when they roll onto shelves August-September time. Whatever I decide, Nintendo wins. Clever girl.
Will you be upgrading your standard Switch to the 'new' SKU? (523 votes)
- Oh yes – that extra battery life makes it worth it
- Maybe, if I trade in my current Switch or offload it on an unsuspecting family member...
- Nope, I'll sit tight and see what's on the horizon
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I want to buy another Switch with better battery life someday.
But since the Save data are inside the machine, unlike 3DS / NDS, I'm content with my current Switch.
I want the revision coming out as a second Switch for the household not necessarily an upgrade. I guess no matter how you look at it, it will be an upgrade as it will probably be played more then my current one which looks like it's already got one foot in the grave.
I won't be buying another Switch. The current one works just fine for me. Sure it'd be nice to have a little extra battery life, but I don't see any point in spending a fortune for that.
I will probably upgrade to the revision. My daughter is going off to college and I want her to have a Switch. I was going to jump on a Lite for her but might just get myself a nuSwitch and give her my old one.
My Switch is the family unit and goes on a lot of road trips. Extra battery life is a huge bonus. And then Kid A has a full-featured Switch for uni, and maybe next year Kid B gets a Lite of her own.
Will I also want to get the Pro when it comes out - yes, probably. But it doesn't have to be Day One. Depends on the budget, mostly.
What makes me always consider a second switch.
Extra pair of joy cons - 80 bucks
Extra Nintendo Dock - 60 bucks (comes with hdmi and power cable)
Extra joy con control clip - 15 bucks
So we’re at 155.
If I have a switch and want to get these accessories anyway, is it worth upgrading for a second switch to use as a peripheral with increased battery life.
Especially if I can wait a bit and find one of these on a decent sale.
I won't buy a new switch for a minor upgrade. Current switch is fine. Maybe if a "pro" releases i would think about it. But only if it does not split the community. That would suck.
Why would you buy another Switch for some extra battery life when you can geta case with a battery that will give you more power that the new Switch does? The new version has to offer more that battery life.
I bought my Switch to replace my previous home console, the Wii U. It has never left my house. I do play in handheld mode sometimes but just not on the go.
My Switch still works perfectly fine. The increased battery life would be nice but realistically speaking I never travel long enough to make use of it for now so I wouldn't really gain anything from it. I'm going to stick with my Switch for the time being
I would like a real Switch PRO. What I mean by that is a machine that display at least 1080p/60fps on TV.
I'm tired to play 540/720p on a 65" 4K TV and even not at 60fps for the most of the games. :/
I tried Breath of the Wild on my PC. Just that upscale to 4K with 60fps locked... it's breathtaking.
Look, I was interested in the new Fire Emblem but sorry, visually speaking it's not possible in 2019 and the worst is that the game is not reaching 30fps stable...
We need a Switch PRO !
i'll be sticking with my current switch for now.
@Roam85 how would this work with an eshop game, switching between Switches?
If they come out with a "New" Switch or pro or whatever they want to call it next year, then yeah I'll consider an upgrade then. As it stands now, a few extra hours of battery aren't worth the cost of side-stepping in my book.
I just had to buy a new switch cause my fan was going on my launch console. This was a month before they announced the new improved battery one. The battery isn't a big deal for me as I rarely ever play in portable mode. So I'm going to wait and see if we get the pro next year or what not.
I love my switch, but having more power to run and render games better is more important for me as the Switch is my main and only gaming console other then the older Nintendo systems. I usually always go with Nintendo as I just love their first, and second party games. But would be nice to get more third party support, and more power always help in that area. Don't get me wrong there is alot of great third party games on it now and I have bought many. But they are mostly ports. Super looking forward to Doom Eternal.
But that might just be me.
There is no "Switch Pro".
All Nintendo needs to do now is make a Switch with better Joycons.
"Super heavy duty Joycons, tough as steel - guarantee won't drift for 10 year."
That's all it takes to sell them.
I don’t see the point for me. I don’t often use my Switch in hand held mode.
I’d like a new switch with an upgraded APU and more ram.
While the extra battery life is a (Very nice) upgrade, i mostly play in console mode anyway, so why buy a new one for just that?
Over its lifespan, i bought 3 different 3DS consoles, a regular one, an XL one because i have big hands, and then a New 3DS XL, i managed to sell off the older ones, but i think i'll try getting through the Switch-generation with fewer upgrades anyway.
If I got a decent price for my Switch, so I could only spend about EUR 50 to upgrade, I’d do it. I play 99% docked, so the upgrade is not worth that much to me.
I honestly don't think there is going to be a Switch Pro. At least not for the foreseeable future. I think the new SKU with the updated battery is probably the "Pro" that most people heard the rumours about.
If you would report everything accurately, you would have report the Twit Emily Roger wrote, where she claims the "pro" model the WSJ and she spoke about, is in fact, this "improved" Switch. Also, you liked following the hacking scene, so you obviously know the Mariko chip set is being used in all Switch model produced since last year.
Gavin's got the collector sickness. Love it.
Second run Pro, if a new Zelda game comes out for it.
I already have 2 Switches, I think I have to wait it out a bit (though the extra battery life would be nice for how much I play in hh mode), I don't feel the need to repeat my 3ds history.. Got a 3ds xl, then bought a New 3ds xl when they launched and couldn't help myself from getting one more New 3ds xl when the SNES version popped up..
What is it with this sites writers and their snide little digs at PlayStation?
Revised Switch all the way. It's clear that the Switch Pro will most likely be the successor to the current Switch, that won't arrive for quite a few more years.
I’ll wait for the Nintendo sphere
It's essentially a $50 upgrade if you sell your old switch. New warranty, hopefully fixed joycons, and all the other improvements. Yes it's definitely worth it imo.
After this upgraded version the Lite literally makes zero sense. You are just sacrificing WAY too much for what makes the Switch, ehm “Switch”.
And though some might tell me that they would never play on a TV with it etc, trust me, that that will eventually come.
The only reason is for someone who already has an OG Switch but for new ppl just, please, get the regular one.
If you have one - not really. If you getting one, wait for the new one.
I woud love a LITE, but already payed $300 for a Switch so makes no sense for me unless I get full price back.
Wish the LITE was an option back in 2017 😒
I would buy a tv only pro Switch, but I don't really care for the handheld aspect at all.
Personally I don’t think there will be a “switch pro” just because Sony and Microsoft have taken this route doesn’t mean Nintendo will,
The switch lite is a cheaper alternative to the switch and the revision is just that. Maybe it will go the same way the 3ds did with the “new” systems but I wouldn’t think just yet
@dartmonkey No offense Gavin, but you having to wait for your Forza Horizon 4 updates is kinda your own fault for not having set the Xbox One to receive updates even when switched off.
If you change those settings accordingly, then your games will always be updated even if you're not currently using the system.
@zool Switch eShop games are linked to your account, so can download on new switch
@WesEds I could see them do something like they did with the New 3ds.... Have some exclusives for the system.
People with money to burn 😒 Wait for a proper updated console, unless your old Switch is falling to bits
I play my Switch pretty exclusively in handheld mode. I only tried it out on the tv once, when I first got it, just to try it out, and I only ever play it on tv when I take it to friend's houses, as we will all play it on their tv (one friend has a 100-inch Projector/Screen we play on). Otherwise, I always play in handheld mode, leaving my tv free for other things, like tv shows, or movies, or what not. I even bought a 10-foot USB-C cord to charge the Switch while I play from anywhere I feel most comfortable at. So, battery life isn't much of an issue for me, in handheld mode. I also typically only play indoors. I don't usually play outside much (unless I'm at Comic-Con and playing there while waiting for different things to start). But never long enough to kill my battery.
That said, I'm more interested in the "Switch Pro", or whatever they decide to call it. I'd rather have the extra power, and larger screen size, compared to the Switch Lite, since I don't really have to worry about battery life. The current size of the Switch is fine with me, so not worried about the Lite being smaller. So, I don't mind waiting. Besides, I have lots of games to play through in the mean time. With even more on my "want list" that I'll get when they come out too. Speaking of which, I finally cataloged my library too. I got a new Lexar 512gb micro sd card on Amazon Prime Day (about 2 weeks ago) for only $52 ($51.88), and I officially have 52 retail games (53 if you count Assassin's Creed 3 and Liberation separate, tho, since they are on the same cart, I'm only counting them as 1), and 86 digital games, now. I wrote them all down (and numbered them) to keep track, so I didn't have to keep recounting them over and over. So now I can just add to the list every time I get a new game, to stay current, without having to recount everything later. I moved everything over to my new SD Card, and now I have about 24gb free on my Switch itself, and another 100gb free on the sd card. So I'll be ok for space for a while now. Hopefully the new Switch Pro will have more internal memory too, tho I'm still going to keep an eye out for a good deal on a 1TB micro sd card, as I'm sure I'm going to need one for my Switch sooner or later.
That Forza bit hit too close to home.
I'm fine with my original switch, since i rarely play undocked.
What with the Switch Lite being completely portable, perhaps the Switch Pro will go the other way completely and negate portable play altogether? Just sayin'.......
My "wish" would be.. BOTW2, Metroid 4 and the next Monolith Soft-RPG-Beauty to be on a SWITCH PRO. $$$
After probably 2000-3000 hours playing the Switch with 2 sets of joycon (I bought the reverse set so I could play red/red and blue/blue), I've got one red joycon that drifts a bit, and a bit of a crack and some minor scratches. I really don't have anything to complain about with the system (my PS4 is barely chugging along after 5 years and the eject button fell off). I'm happy to wait for a true upgrade barring disaster.
The only thing I could gripe about is you can't buy either single joycon, or a matching pair in the UK easily. I think people wouldn't be so fussed about drift if you could.
I could have got full refund for my current switch because of the Pro, but the Pro won't be much better so i kept mine.
Also. I bought 43 games on Switch in 5 weeks, so i won't wait until 2020 for Pro.
What an utterly stupid article. The new SKU has a better battery. Sure, buy one if you want that but you can buy a battery charger for less than 20 quid.
A new SKU is not a new console. When we talk about Pro we are talking about an upgrade. Better CPU - a full on upgrade. There is no similarity between a better battery and the idea of a PRO Switch.
A PRO Switch would have to be like PS4 to PRO, Xbox one to X box one X.
Sorry but this is such a non article.
Anybody who would buy a new SKU now is mad. Either that or has money to waste:
No way I’d upgrade just for better battery, although if some people will there might be a number of used Switch’s on the second hand market and so some bargains to be had.
Switch Pro will be a Switch 2. A new upgraded Switch. Not battery life extended. That’s not a reason to buy a new SKU.
PRO will be 2022 and will be the new Switch for the future. With Switch we are not taking about ds to 3ds to 3ds XL. That’s what the lite is.
Pro will be a leap forward in power and capability.
I think the switch pro will be tv only. We have the standard model which lets you switch the from handheld to tv mode. Now we have an only portable only model. My next guess is a tv only model with no screen. But that’s just my speculation
This revision for me was like the hop between the Gameboy Advance SP and the Gameboy Advance Micro-- Cute, but not enough to make me switch. Same for New 3DS XL to 2DS XL-- Including this Switch Lite, I called these "alternate revisions". As you can tell from these examples, I want the bigger and better before I will invest money, so I will humbly wait for the inevitable "Switch Pro". As a side note, I'm lucky if I can even game 3 hours anyway, so I'm good at the moment.
Bought my Switch on launch day. I’ll love it till it dies.
Extra battery life is near useless to me since I primarily use mine in docked mode. I'm waiting for a model that has better specs, new control options, new hardware features, and/or can be more portable without having to remove docked mode like the Switch Lite.
Upgrading would make sense if the hardware you´re upgrading to would grant you some significant advantages over your prevoius device. And because this is definitely not the case……..
If I don't end up getting a Lite, I could see myself trading this in and paying $50 - 75 to upgrade to the newer model.
Otherwise, I'll stick with my old one and use a portable battery when I need more undocked playtime.
See? They want to leave the hybrid part away. In short they might not release any hybrid with the next gen. Maybe switch lite 2 version... don't expect much from Nintendo..i hope i'm wrong
Whether the upgrade is worth it for extra battery is something only you know. Though you could just buy a battery case or a decent power bank.
Waiting for a Switch Pro that doesn’t exist and may not be with us for a very long time doesn’t seem smart to me.
@PCkid FE is a turn-based tactical RPG. Reaction times literally don't matter at all and the animated content is totally secondary. Most of the actual game is selecting things from static menus. What does it matter what its frame rate is?
“I’d love to play more Forza Horizon 4, but the last four times I’ve sat down for a half-hour blast, my brief window of opportunity was stolen by interminably long mandatory updates.”
Me too! It’s crazy, I just want to drive around the English countryside for a bit but I have to wait for some multi gigabyte patch to download before I’m allowed. I usually end up playing on the Switch while I wait and end up not getting around to playing Forza.
Boy do I know what it's like buying multiple 3ds's I bought 4 of them. None of them ever broke or had anything wrong with them, I just wanted the upgraded versions of the system.
First one I bought was the blue launch 3ds on the 3ds launch day. I had that one for ages and eventually sold it complete with everything, original box, cords and ar cards to my friend for $50 (not that he actually paid me the full amount but whatever 😤)
The second one I bought was the Link Between Worlds Zelda 3ds XL. This one was probably my favourite 3ds. I love the black and gold colour scheme and the triforce on it doesn't fade off (unlike a certain film like cover on my brother's Majora's Mask edition).
The third 3ds I bought was the white New 3ds when it was only available in Japan and Australia. The faceplates were cool (I had a bunch of different ones but eventually settled on the black Zelda back plate and a custom SNES sticker one over a cheap white top cover). I liked the fact that everything ran better on it, but I kinda preferred the circle pad pro with it's big shoulder buttons and circle pad compared to the tiny nub above the face buttons.
My fourth and final 3ds is the pal version New 3ds XL SNES Edition. The system itself just looks so damn cool and I did miss the bigger screens, especially when Smash Bros came out.
Anyway I think that if you play in handheld mode a lot and the better battery is really important to you then go for the new Switch SKU. Otherwise be like me and hold off for the pro version.
@Edu23XWiiU
The Mariko Chip was referenced in a Switch firmware update as of last year but there is no evidence of it actually being used in any retail Switch model so far. The presence of the newer chipset in the upcoming Switch models accounts for the increased battery life from the same/smaller battery.
@Alucard83
And your evidence for this is them releasing a new, improved Hybrid model?
More luck waiting on switch 2 at this point.
I bought a second switch a few months ago, cause me and my husband were constantly fighting over it, so I'm sitting this upgrade out and waiting for something more substantial!
you be waiting a long time for a switch pro since doug bowser stated its not happening besides the revise model switch has longer battery life and fixes the the exploit that the hackers use on the current model switch.
I'll buy the new SKU as a second one for my household, because Pokemon. I'm not going to "upgrade" my current Switch though. And the lite is right out for me because it doesn't, you know, SWITCH. I play handheld at work and TV at home. They could also entice me into a lite if they had an easier way to access my digital games on a different device, but that's less likely to happen than the probably-will-never-exist Switch Pro so...
To me if you Dock and Portable as you see fit - stay with the Current Switch and wait to see what the Pro specs are when it comes out.
@SoapBox "Now, don’t get me wrong – I’m very happy with my Switch. It’s by no means perfect (as evidenced by the various Joy-Con issues and other warping quirks of the hardware that many have encountered), but what launch hardware is perfect?"
The Joy-Con drift is a 50/50 some had and some hadn't and to the Case warping that isn't hardware as alluded by evidence sounds more like user Dropped caused or Blocking vents causing the thermal overheating. That sounds more likely otherwise since my ownership March 2017 there would be alot more story on this. But the pics I see of cracked case showed like user dropped.
My switch is currently off getting repaired for crashing Everytime a game boots up. I'm hoping they replace it with a new SKU. I'll know for sure in about a week
If I was going to upgrade I would just wait for the real upgrade.
Who the hell wants to play their switch for 9 hours straight in handheld mode? And who in their right mind would want to shove a $200 game console in their pocket?? I don't understand any of you people...
@zool Exactly, as I play mine docked say 90% of the time extra battery is not enough to buy another Switch for. It also rules out the Switch Lite as portability is of low importance for me. If/when a Switch Pro (actual Pro with better performance) is announced, only then will I consider it....
@JasmineDragon Digital Floundering once again here to save the day. When cycling through menus, you experience extreme sluggishness especially when pressing back. In tests conducted over the weekend (and will probably continue through the week because it's so much fun) we noticed at 30 fps, returning to the previous menu went from instantaneous (at 60fps) to practically instantaneous. Only our 2000 pound analysing rig could notice this, but it is very prevalent in a game where menus matter. (Very sorry, I just can't help myself sometimes)
@GrailUK You should have read the whole article, because it’s not even about the Switch Lite.
@impurekind That's wat i'm thinking. I know people want a "pro". But to me it seems that Nintendo does not want to split the player base. It would be stupid imo. Nintendo is about quality. They won't release a crappy Zelda because it was desined for the "pro". If it's like the new 3ds i could believe it.
Only got my switch in march so I'm fine, will wait for pro, and then maybe in like 5 years time or so just randomly pick up a lite for the hell of it
@LunarFlame17 You are right of course I deleted my post (only fair!) It started off on the Switch Lite (which is where I got off lol) and assumed it would go on to the revision in September (which again, isn't being touted as an upgrade) so thought it wasn't worthwhile. But, like you quite rightly pointed out, I should have read the article
As a public transit game player, I can’t wait to have the Switch Lite. Will feel less like I’m pulling a submarine sandwich out of my pocket on the bus
I'm getting a Switch Lite just for pocketability and to keep my current Switch snug in it's dock (apart from Labo).
I honestly have no interest in aPro, unless it includes some very drastic changes beyond graphics and battery and the like. My regular Switch is just what I need for personal use and for work.
I can understand why people want those improvements, sure, but it’s not something I myself care much about.
As for the Lite, that thing is going to print money due to families with kids and people who just prefer playing in handheld (if not for needing the docked mode for work and being addicted to mixing and matching joy-con colors, I’d have probably been an ideal customer for one myself).
I wonder if this updated OG switch is actually what rumours thought the “pro” was and in fact there is no pro coming?
Might be the case as the rumours were based on a new chip which we’ve now got... wish I knew for sure as if there’s a pro coming I’ll wait for that but if not I’d go for a new OG switch with better battery life...
I still don't own a Switch because I am still working on my WiiU backlog. However, the "new" Switch might be a good choice then. Will it be at the same price and do I have to look close at the package when buying it?
I’m on the same fence. I want a better battery badly. But I really can’t justify the full purchase of another switch, or even a trade “upgrade” where I make up the difference. Too broke from all the game releases for that. 😆 Def getting a Pro should they make that. Probably keep my original and give to my daughters.
@dartmonkey excellent use of the “Clever Girl” meme
I will almost certainly buy a new switch someday but only one that could be considered a "pro" model, with better capabilities and a better battery like the new version of the original Switch is supposed to have.
You're a pretty terrible writer and also there's no guarantee of a Switch Pro at all. You should just be quiet, stop writing articles forever and go okay a game.
@Dm9982 Same here on fence to trade up for 9 hours battery life but Graphics is still the same. I checked and trade up would still cost 140 extra after to get the new version. If that was a Pro that would be different. Also I have to backup Online or some how all the saved Data before hand as doing in-store transfer would be time consuming as well and need time to do that if that was the route.
Clear nope since I don't play my Switch on the go. It's constantly plugged in so longer battery life won't be enough of a factor for me to buy a second console. It is a good thing for people who don't buy day 1 and play a lot during commutes and the like, but I have to pass.
I've got four, for various reasons, I don't want a gimped one though, thanks all the same.
Will definitely upgrade. My switch's right joy-con rail, among other things, is broken (still very playable though), and I play 99% portably. EXCITED!
Could Nintendo not take advantage of the efficiency of the new chip to improve handheld performance?
One Switch to rule them all. That time has not come yet.
The extra battery life isn't worth the upgrade for me. My Switch is working perfectly fine and hasn't got a mark on it anywhere. They'd have to add in some more upgrades before I'd buy another one when there's nothing wrong with mine.
The new one is pretty sweet for anyone buying a new Switch now, though.
I’m all over the revision. Basically double battery life? Yes please, and thank you. Don’t mind if I do 😁
I used the excuse to go ahead and pre-order the Dragon Quest XI S Switch, which is confirmed to be using the new chip with better battery.
Also, #SwitchProIsALie It never existed and likely never will. People got themselves hyped up over the new model rumors, which was just for the more efficient chip and better battery life. I told people a Pro wasn’t coming, but they didn’t wanna hear it. They’d be linking articles and trying to tell me that was proof, despite me linking articles showing it was an assumption as Bloomberg clearly stated it was going to be nothing more than a moderate upgrade. But hey, that’s the Internet for you. People believe what they want to believe.
That’s not to say a Pro couldn’t come in the future, it’s just that we have no evidence to support that. And since we are 3 years into the generation already, it makes little sense to release a marginal performance upgrade when a new system would be releasing not 2 years after. Better to just wait and see a bigger leap, which will be more impressive, rather than to water it down with incremental upgrades.
I will likely be upgrading, yes. Better internals (not just battery) makes it a win for me. Besides, I can keep my old dock / joycons and resell the new ones on eBay netting me probably $200+ (when I sell my old tablet as well). Easy choice. I'll do it again if another revision appears with even better features.
I imagine the switch pro will actually be the next console. But failing due to not being next gen enough. (A bit like Wii U)
With everyone saying this console is what was needed 3 yrs ago in 2019!
@electrolite77 The models from last year have the Mariko chip, as evidenced by the hackers. What it basically does is patch the console to prevent hacking, that's it. They probably released an enhanced version of that one with this new model, which of course will make the Switch harder to hack.
@zool actually nintendo does let you put games on multiple switches at this point
OK thanks. Is that playing multi switches at the same time, as in you could be playing in Docked mode on one switch and then pick up your second Switch and continue the game?
They should just make a "pro" dock which gives more power to the regular switch, with storage (500gb min), ethernet port, bluetooth for headsets and a fan to keep it from overheating.
@Moonlessky not going to happen and that would be extremely expensive dude.
@JasmineDragon : "FE is a turn-based tactical RPG. Reaction times literally don't matter at all and the animated content is totally secondary. Most of the actual game is selecting things from static menus. What does it matter what its frame rate is?"
Defend an ugly game, with nothing crazy on screen that runs even not smoothly... it's something that only a fanboy can do.
For example, could you tell me why Path Of Radiance runs at steady 60fps then ? Just for fun ? Lol
I'm sorry but a game that ugly should AT LEAST, runs at a steady butter smooth 60fps...
I really only have a few gripes with the original Switch...
1. battery life
2. charging port on the bottom
3. the friggin' kickstand
Suuuper happy to see the battery life get a solid bump, but I would at least also need a kickstand revamp for me to want to replace my original.
Having said all of the above...if they put out another "Year of Luigi" special edition anything I will be throwing cash straight up into the air. A callback to the Game Boy Color's Atomic Purple would most likely get me to do the same, as well.
chanting
better joy-cons, better joy-cons...!
Great article. I was just thinking the same thing. Should I get the new Switch in August or wait for the eventual release of the "Pro"? I have waited this long. Waiting served me well with my Xbox One. I did not get a launch console Xbox One but waited. I even waited after the release of the Xbox One S and now I have an Xbox One X Project Scorpio Edition and many of the hot games at launch were on discount when I got the system. There are some pretty sweet games out for the Switch right now but the reality is, I am not made of money and I have a ton of games for my retro systems to play. I have games for the, GB, Sega Genesis, Sega CD, Sega 32X, GBA, N64, PS1, Gamecube, Original Xbox, DS, New 3DS, PSP, PS Vita, Wii, Xbox 360, PS3, and Xbox One X to keep me busy and all on official hardware not to mention the hundreds of games I own on Steam. Don't ask me why I have not started my own Youtube gaming channel yet. Because of my regular job, I do not even have enough time to play the games I have. Actually with the new Super64 by EON I am, right now, rediscovering the over 100 N64 games I have and they all look great. I have one more HDMI port on my TV I am saving for a Switch but I just might make my first Switch the "Pro". Who knows but by then the price of a 1 TB Micro SD card might be actually reasonable. I wish video games where my only expense in life but they are not. The nice thing about being old is that you can appreciate the collection you have amassed over the years.
@RiasGremory more expensive than a brand new console?
I'm actually tempted by the extended battery life. Perhaps I'll sell my old Switch and get one of the new models when they arrive.
I haven't decided yet. I'm also interested in the Switch Lite.
For me the regular Switch is too heavy for extended handheld use, my right hand starts hurting when I've been playing for while. I broke my hand in a cycling accident three years ago, since then I have trouble holding heavier things for a prolonged time.
I've always been more of a handheld gamer, but the Switch isn't ideal for that.
I'll probably wait until the first reviews arrive. I really hope the analog sticks won't be as fragile as those on the joy-cons. The Lite would be more comfortable for me, but I'm scared of those sticks. It also depends on whether I can keep using my digital games (and save files) on both consoles or not.
Am I the only one who thinks that the Wii U gamepad was a lot more comfortable to use than the Switch, by the way?
When the REAL successor to the Switch comes out I hope it can handle 4K resolution @ 60fps when docked and 1080p 60fps when portable otherwise Nintendo are wasting their time. Stretched low res images with jaggies should not be a thing in this day and age.
I love my current Switch to bits but i wish it looked better on modern 4K TV's. I want to believe... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Qmig8nf3A&feature=youtu.be&t=45s
I couldn't disagree more with this article.
As my Switch is played docked 99% of the time, I'll wait and see what the future brings in regards to a Pro model. Not fussed on quicker loading times, longer battery, etc. Higher screen resolution (4K would be nice) would probably be the only reason for me to upgrade at the moment.
I don't see the point of getting a new Switch for a small upgrade. Especially when I can imagine the number of games I could buy for the same price instead. Now if there was a Pro version that was significantly better, that's another story.
The fourth option... only if they also #RemasterThousandYearDoor
I’m hesitant to. My kids want their own but it just too complex to juggle the game ownership. However both left Joy-Con a drift and today I found the back top plate of my switch was popped open. How? I have no idea. It still works but for how much longer? I wonder.
@PCkid You didn't answer the question. Why does it matter what the frame rate is? This is a game where you are not doing ANYTHING in real time, and 90% of the game is static. Why does it need a high frame rate?
You seem to think frame rate matters. I'm trying to understand why. It's very strange to me. I know I didn't buy a Fire Emblem game expecting to see blistering graphics. Civ VI doesn't maintain 60 FPS, either, and I'm shockingly okay with that because that's not what matters in a game like Civ VI, either.
Frame rate matters in platformers, because timing matters. It matters in racers and shooters because you need to know exactly where you are and where you are aiming without any hiccups. For strategic and tactical, turn-based games, I'm really struggling to figure out why you would think it matters.
That’s a very long article to ask and answer a single question. Do you need the extra 30 to 40% battery life?
As for the remark about Forza updates, turn on your systems auto update feature so software is patched when you want to play it.
I’m going to keep mine and get a new one and buy a Pro, but I’ll never go near a Lite.
The "inevitable Pro"... I you don't think this new SKU is the closest thing we'll get to a 'Pro', you're probably kidding yourself.
So I did the quick math and between my son and I, we've had a total of 8 3/2DS' respectively. I had a black one at launch that got destroyed about 3 mos later. So I got a red one. Then the XL came out and I got a blue one. Then the 2DS dropped and I got my son one. That's 4 so far. Then, him being 7 yrs old at the time, basically destroyed that one. So me, being the kickass (if slightly ignorant) Dad I am decided, this calls for a 3DS XL then! '-' Because I couldn't lose my lil gaming buddy. Then, New 3DS is coming! What! What a terrible name!? But I gotta play Xenoblade on the go so, pony up Dad. I bought 2 "New" XL's one for me and one for him. For when he inevitably annihilates his current model. Which of course occurred, through the hinge no longer having any tension and him one day saying, "Oh, I gave that one too Jessie." Evil dad looks and a stern talking too aside. I said, "Well how about this one then?" Which he basically replied, "Meh". At that point I said, oh well I'm happy with my 3DS. NX is looming and I've had my fill. Then Nintendo, being the frisky lil minx they are said, "How about a regular green 2DS with Ocarina of Time 3D already on the system"? Anyone, anyone? Grumble grumble grumble. Snatch, just gimme the damn thing, alright!? And it sits, still in box. In my closet. Waiting to be passed on too my son one day when Pops is long gone, hangin with Sakaguchi and Iwata-san. So, the point is, I get the temptation. If I could have bought all of the Game Boy Colors or 8 N64's back in the day, I probably would have and now that I can, I do. So when it's all said and done I'll probably have about 5 Switches. So kudos to those who chose to go dude whoa, a few mo kupos!? But I'll be waitin on the "New Pro". Cheers brethren. 🍻
I almost never take journeys that last more than 3 hours. A better battery would be just for the novelty of it.
@Anti-Matter You know you can transfer data from one Switch to another or use the cloud save service to do so, right?
@dskatter
Ow... Only for some Switch games, right ?
If I were someone who already had a Switch, I'd just hold out for a more significant upgrade. But someone who doesn't yet have one and doesn't find the stripped features of the Lite appealing? I'd tell them to get the minor revision.
System save transfer works for all games. Cloud saves only work for most.
@Anti-Matter https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/45047/~/how-to-transfer-your-save-data-to-a-nearby-nintendo-switch
Nope, all games.
I'll be getting this new model just for fun and because a close cousin wants a Switch and I told her that she can have my current one minus the dock for $100 (damn good deal).
That way I get a decent upgrade and docks for both the spare monitor and the tv.
Better wait and see for what's in store for the future. If a more powerful Switch is in the pipeline, I'd rather get that one than this upcoming one.
For me, the new Switch SKU/Revision is a must. I play my Switch a lot and it really DOES get hot in that dock. And over time, I've noticed two things since my launch day purchase:
1 - The unit is beginning to show signs of bowing, as well as some slight bulging at the rear of the unit (no cracks yet though).
2 - The fan occasionally makes a loud grinding noise now, usually in handheld mode.
Now, I don't like the idea of having to spend $300 again. But I definitely need a "cooler" CPU in my Switch. So this new SKU is exactly what I need right now.
That extra battery time is also a nice incentive!
Stick With my OG Switch! It’s fine! However, I don’t remember to have played for more than two hours in portable, I just prefer playing on my tv. Will wait for the pro.
@Edu23XWiiU
The patched 2018 units don’t have a Mariko Chip, the 2018 revision introduced a firmware update that referenced upcoming Mariko Units. However no Mariko units have been seen in the wild despite a couple of sites getting confused and reporting that the new pathed Units were ‘Mariko’ units.
https://twitter.com/hexkyz/status/1149349171993776128?s=21
https://twitter.com/thatonemart1ni/status/1047834776852463622?s=21
https://gbatemp.net/threads/progress-for-patched-switch-after-6-7-months.531018/
https://twitter.com/sciresm/status/1148984669771223040?s=21
https://www.reddit.com/r/SwitchPirates/comments/bqwn7t/any_update_to_hack_mariko/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app
@carmudgeon
“Fanboi's gonna fanboi - the Vita had offical support for over 7 years.”
Come on now. I like Sony, but they let the Vita down badly. Glorious machine that they simply stopped making games for. Absolutely nothing post-2015, and even that year it was all minor stuff. Whatever ‘official support’ means, So y abandoned the Vita and it’s later life support all came from Indies and minor Japanese developers.
Even though I tend to play 90% handheld, I still like the option of being able to play on the TV if I want to, so I may give the Lite a pass (unless they decide to make a sweet, sweet Animal Crossing-themed console, in which case I might just cave depending on cuteness level).
I may, however, get myself an upgraded model Switch sometime in the spring for the better battery life and temperature efficiency, and sell my current one to my brother-in-law, who will definitely want one as well once my partner gets his own to play Pokemon in November.
I'm perfectly happy with my older-model Switch system. I mostly leave it in the dock anyway, so battery life isn't an issue for me.
Anyway, if battery life was the primary concern, could one not simply purchase a portable battery bank to recharge the Switch with when needed?
I pretty much agree with every pointy why not to Switch up. no pun intended.
Especially considering most games have text smaller than my gb Micro, no exaggeration, and I can't read them even with my glasses on.
@WoottWinds Check out a successful Kickstarter item called SwitchBlades regarding the kickstand,I don't know their site but it is linked on Kickstarter. here this helps https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2102891131/switchblades-rail-cover-and-kickstand-for-nintendo?ref=discovery&term=nintendo%20switch%20
@Edu23XWiiU are you saying that all systems sold in the last year already have the improved battery life? I know they changed the chip a while ago to combat homebrew but thought the new chip used on lite and new switch was an improved different one
@Disco_K I carry mine everyday with me on my backpack. I travel public transporsts several times a day and it is awesome to have a full gaming experience with you every time. I don't know where do you live but for me in London I don't mint carrying a 300$ device with me.
@Chandlero absolutely, just the box and code is different. People need to be carefull when buying for the next few months as the previous one will still be in inventory
@Ravenmaster lool even PS5 will struggle to do 4k 60...
I will wait to see if there are any other minor improvements not mentioned by Nintendo (minor frame rate improvements, joy con drift solved at hardware, extra storage capacity, Bluetooth headphone by default, better screen, etc). If any of these happen I may upgrade and trade my OG
I'd consider a new switch if they enable bluetooth and have a proper social network. Can't be possible that they haven't seen how to do it properly. If you can't do it, collaborate with discord.
You got the most powerful mobile soc on the marked, but can't use bluetooth, THE thing that makes something truly mobile and tangle free. Not to mention that you need to use your phone instead of your console to communicate or party up...
@JasmineDragon
Why does it matter ?
I don't know... maybe it's more pleasant for the eye to see something FLUID rather than something jerky... lol
My inner thought is that this Fire Emblem is more a KOEI TECMO game than an Intelligent System one.
The game in itself is good but everything around is mediocre.
A Koei Tecmo symptoms in some ways. :/
In my household, we need a new Switch due to heavy use (i.e. abuse) at the hands of my 7 year old. The thing is a hot mess of scratches, scrapes, cracked plastic housing, etc., from slimy kid hands, drops from incredibly high distances, and general wear and tear from kids. If I could upload pictures of it, it would give some people here nightmares. My current Switch will become a sacrificial offering to my children, then I will get a shiny new one for myself. Not sure if I have the patience to hold out for a Pro. 99.9% of my playtime is handheld, so the Lite might be for me.
@electrolite77 https://switchscene.org/threads/%C2%BFexiste-ya-alg%C3%BAn-hack-para-las-nintendo-switch-mariko.383/
@Balta666 It's not a big difference, but my cousin's Switch battery lasts a little bit more when we play Fortnite, it's like solid 3 hours and 30 minutes, probably a little bit more
@Edu23XWiiU
That’s one site where someone asks if a hack is there for what they (without verification) refer to as a Mariko Unit. It’s another example of the erroneous belief they were out there after the firmware update that referenced it.
https://switchospro.blogspot.com/2019/04/sx-pro-team-xecuter-vs-unhackable-switch.html
https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-nvidia-shield-tv-running-android-9-pie-pops-up-in-play-console-device-catalog.123605/post-21931846
@Balta666
No it’s the upcoming revision that will have the improved battery life. The revision last year just patched the existing chip.
Like you, I’m interested in whether Nintendo will allow the new revision to run any quicker in Docked Mode, which seems feasible. Nintendo have been allowing the existing models to clock a bit higher to help with loading times.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-nintendo-switch-boost-mode-analysis
Improved performance in Docked mode along with much better battery life might get me upgrading.
@electrolite77 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk0RsVPCg3w
Check this out. They mentioned the Mariko chip set is being used since last year.
@Edu23XWiiU
They’ve just got caught up in the misunderstanding. There’s absolutely no proof that there is such a thing. The community expected Mariko units last year because of the firmware but as discussed all over the Hacking community, they were just patched original chips.
The future revision being Mariko makes perfect sense as it facilitates the improved battery in the Lite and Revised OG Units. The firmware update in mid-2018 was just preparing for the late-2019 iterations.
@electrolite77 Hahahaha, I think that we can agree that all this does is prevent the Switch from being hacked.
@Edu23XWiiU
We could be here all day 😀😉
Yeah apparently so. I keep pondering an upgrade and hacking my launch model. It’s tempting.
@electrolite77 Hahahaha yeah. Better if you don't do it, and this comes from a guy who modded both his Wii and Wii U. Seems very unnecessary to do it with the Switch, there's too much risk involved.
Switch is a home console that just replaces the failed Wii U, not the 3DS, the highest selling handheld ever, so they're not going to remake it, meaning Switch Lite is just a home console that can't connect to a television, so why would you get more than one?
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