@Oldstalk It's definitely not an absolute requirement, lots of multiplayer games have little to no single player.
At the same time, is it really too much to ask to want both? Splatoon & Kirby Air Riders are also amazing multiplayer games which just so happen to have single player modes that are excellent in their own rights.
What is an adventure mode if not something to satisfy people who want to play single-player?
@Anti-Matter Funnily enough, I was actually thinking of Splatoon as a actual substantial and enjoyable single player champaign that I wish Mario Tennis would use as an example in terms of scope for a real adventure mode (as opposed to the glorified tutorials this game and Aces use instead.)
Like... Splatoon has a proper story and 3D platforming. The single player is a fully fledged video game in its own right.
We know that Camelot can make top-callibre RPGs like Golden Sun. And every time they make a Mario sports game, they always advertise the story mode because they know people loved it in the GB games. But it's always an afterthought and its such a waste. I wasn't even surprised this time because I was already burned on Aces, but it's just so deflating.
@Dev-N It's probably a silly thing to want from a multiplayer party game, but I wish Camalot would go full on Golden Sun on one of these RPG single player modes in these Mario sports games. I want to explore a world and have a melodramatic story, but all the random encounters are quick tennis matches.
I'll never forgive Labo for replacing the Wii U tab on Nintendo's official website.
I know that time marches on and old consoles stop being a part of the present, but it was bittersweet to see it happen. It felt like the end of an era.
@Strawblaze
The US pricing is absolutely absurd considering you don't even get the Virtual Boy controllers with it.
In the UK it's going for £67 which is the same as getting a physical copy of Bananza or a digital copy of Mario Kart. I'd argue even that's still too much unless you're a collector.
@Moonlessky But if that's the case, what did they use for the footage of this trailer? Is it just a mock-up because it would look really ugly to have the VR display visual on a phone trailer?
My only question going into the trailer was if we're allowed to play these games n 2D without the peripheral and unfortunately they still haven't been upfront about it.
Edit: They've added an article to Nintendo Today that confirms its required. So bizarre.
I wish I liked New Horizons.
I loved playing the tutorial, but as soon as the game stopped giving me things to work towards and instead told me to make my own fun, I immediately bounced off it. Every time I try to revisit the game I find nothing to do.
@AussieMcBucket When Kirby Adventure Wii first came out, my dad went to all these game stores asking for it and they all kept giving him Epic Yarn. If you don't follow Persona, I wouldn't blame you for not immediately knowing P5X is the gatcha mobile game, P4U is the fighting game, P5S is the musou-esque spin-off and P6X is the next mainline entry.
@UpsideDownRowlet I was gonna say. It doesnt matter how much thematic sense it makes for X to be punch upwards and B to be punch downwards, nothing will make jumping on A feel intuitive.
That comment about Aonuma intentionally designing the button placement to be a certain way reminded me of how Sonic Frontiers lets the player completely configure the players top speed, acceleration, air drag and several other components of the character controller which a more confident studio would just lock the player to the ideal settings.
I definitely agree that remapping should be available for accessibility reasons, but for general played experience outside of that I can understand the conflict between letting the player play however they want vs keeping the developer's creative vision intact.
@Bass_X0 ...if anything, the lack of accessibility to the previously numbered entry makes the newer entry harder for a lot of people to get into. I certainly won't be playing Prime 4 until I've played the other two games. This isn't like how I've had no desire to buy new Mario Parties when old ones are on N64 Classics; these 4 games are one ongoing evolving series.
@GameOtaku I suppose, but I can't imagine a lot of players would avoid avoid buying Prime 4 if they have access to Prime 2. Maybe that's naive, but they're numbered entries in a series. If you've already played the first three, surely you're already invested enough to play the last, no? At the very least, I can't imagine anyone feels like Prime 2 is interchangeable or will financially compete with Prime 4 what with the completely different setting and mechanics. In fact...
@EarthboundBenjy I'll concede on that. I heard rumblings on there being a character named Stelux or something returning from previous entries but I don't pretend to know anything about Prime 2 or 3.
I find the complaints that the Switch 2 lacks colour kinda amusing since it's literally the most colourful Nintendo, console I've ever owned.
My GBA SP, DS, Wii, 3DS, Wii, Wii U, Grey Joy-Con Switch, all monochrome. I think even my GameCube is grey. But the Switch 2 has these really cool accents. I really hope they release a bundle with the new purple and green because they look really classy.
@Markatron84 A week after, I was with a member of staff afterwards who was looking through all the lost property on his iPad. I saw lots of lost phones and passports and other valuables which put my problems into perspective. As frustrating as it was to lose my Switch 2, at least it can be replaced.
@kmtrain83 It felt like a bad dream in the moment. I received it as a gift and thought everyone would be really upset with me. I was so embarrassed, I literally felt like I shouldn't be left responsible for anything afterwards. Everyone was really kind and understanding though. I'm trying to be more alert going forward.
@Luigia Thanks for the kind words. I got mine on Amazon so it's probably not insured, though maybe it should've been.
Worse than the financial element, it's just really embarrassing. I thought I was too grown-up to do something like that, but I just wasn't paying attention. It's such a stupid mistake, I want to go back in time and slap my past self.
But its too late to go back and fix it, so I can only be grateful that I only lost a game system and some games instead of anything irreplaceable.
Also I still have the Switch 1 and a newfound appreciation for the idiot-proofness of digital games.
@LordFunkalot Imagine if they let you swap at will on ranked online. You could have a powerful attack one when youre on offence, but switch to that defensive dash one when you need to make a quick save.
Even if it doesn't let you do that online, I love the way it lets you counter other people's Fever attacks and send it back at them.
Also yeah the mechanical variety in stages look much more interesting which is great. Ever since Open, the courts have all been pretty same-y compared to how zany Power Tennis got.
I accidently left my Switch 2 on the tube (which also had all my physical games in its case) a couple months ago and it was never found. I was really bummed and decided I wanted to wait for some kind of special edition or bundle or different colour before I got a replacement so it wouldn't feel like just getting the same thing again. Haven't decided if I'll go for this specific colour, will have to see.
As for this game, I love how they've kept the fighting game elements I loved from Aces. I saw in one of the menus that you can set it where you can swap between two Fever rackets at a time and I really hope that you can play like that on Ranked online.
I'm sceptical about the story mode though. I'd love a full-on Camelot RPG that expands on what the GBA games did, but I found the story mode in Aces to be way less interesting than it was advertised to be and really really short.
But it looks cool. Maybe when it goes on sale someday.
Wait, I'm confused. If you hear this dialogue by listening in on the conversations in Fury Green, wouldn't that mean they're present in the game? Or by "listening in", do they mean checking the game's files?
I'm so confused why the expensive version doesn't come with the Virtual Boy controllers which is what I assume the main appeal of these retro collectors items is. You want to feel exactly like you're playing these games as they were, but wouldn't using Joy-Con undermine that?
Playing this game in VR is absolutely insane. I only did for a couple hours, but it was breathtaking just being there. I feel like playing it on any other device would be underwhelming by comparison.
That being said, I don't know if I have the patience to set up Steam VR and install all of the mods so I'll probably just never properly play Skyrim.
@Lizuka Huh, I guess I never got Maker 3DS or Maker 2. And when you think about all the countless NSMBU courses the community made for Maker 2, it means I haven't even played the smallest fraction of the NSMB levels that have been created so far. Nevermind, I am a fake fan.
@Jayvir Have you looked into completing the checklist? I haven't gotten the game yet so I can't comment personally, but if you find you're able to get invested in completing all of the tiny quests littered across all of the games modes than hopefully it should keep you busy for a long while.
@canaryfarmer @MatthewTaranto Theres this advert for a product called Marmite (its this spread you can put on bread) and the slogan is "You either love it or you hate it." It basically just means your milage will vary wildly on if its your thing or not.
@RupeeClock
Air Riders isn't getting roguelike DLC because the roguelike mode is already included in the base game.
Also, just because there aren't progression systems in the rest of Mario Kart World, it doesn't mean they can't create some for a new mode. New abilities or mechanics are an undertaking, but adding upgrades that change parameters like speed and jump height are (probably) practical without too much testing needed.
I'd love to see Kart World get a substantial single player mode of some kind since I really enjoyed the P Switches but they're too sparse to find new ones after you've collected a lot of them. Honestly, single player stuff is why I'm so hyped for Air Riders honestly.
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Re: Review: Mario Tennis Fever (Switch 2) - Slim For Singles, But An Addictive Core Gives It Online Legs
@Oldstalk
It's definitely not an absolute requirement, lots of multiplayer games have little to no single player.
At the same time, is it really too much to ask to want both? Splatoon & Kirby Air Riders are also amazing multiplayer games which just so happen to have single player modes that are excellent in their own rights.
What is an adventure mode if not something to satisfy people who want to play single-player?
Re: Review: Mario Tennis Fever (Switch 2) - Slim For Singles, But An Addictive Core Gives It Online Legs
@Anti-Matter
Funnily enough, I was actually thinking of Splatoon as a actual substantial and enjoyable single player champaign that I wish Mario Tennis would use as an example in terms of scope for a real adventure mode (as opposed to the glorified tutorials this game and Aces use instead.)
Like... Splatoon has a proper story and 3D platforming. The single player is a fully fledged video game in its own right.
We know that Camelot can make top-callibre RPGs like Golden Sun. And every time they make a Mario sports game, they always advertise the story mode because they know people loved it in the GB games. But it's always an afterthought and its such a waste. I wasn't even surprised this time because I was already burned on Aces, but it's just so deflating.
Re: Round Up: The Final Previews Are In For Mario Tennis Fever
@Dev-N
It's probably a silly thing to want from a multiplayer party game, but I wish Camalot would go full on Golden Sun on one of these RPG single player modes in these Mario sports games. I want to explore a world and have a melodramatic story, but all the random encounters are quick tennis matches.
Re: Talking Point: Where's Your Nintendo Labo Now?
I'll never forgive Labo for replacing the Wii U tab on Nintendo's official website.
I know that time marches on and old consoles stop being a part of the present, but it was bittersweet to see it happen. It felt like the end of an era.
Re: UK Charts: Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade Plummets As Familiar Faces Retake The Podium
Whelp, still no Bluey in the top 40.
I wonder if they'd need to release a new title to bring in more sales.
Re: Two Cancelled Virtual Boy Games Coming To NSO In 2026, Including F-Zero Spin-Off
@Faucet
They confirmed on Nintendo Today just now that the headset is required.
Re: Nintendo Announces Launch Line-Up For Switch Online Virtual Boy
@Strawblaze
The US pricing is absolutely absurd considering you don't even get the Virtual Boy controllers with it.
In the UK it's going for £67 which is the same as getting a physical copy of Bananza or a digital copy of Mario Kart. I'd argue even that's still too much unless you're a collector.
Re: Nintendo Announces Launch Line-Up For Switch Online Virtual Boy
It would really suck because I want to play Wario Land but don't want to buy a cardboard headset.
Re: Nintendo Announces Launch Line-Up For Switch Online Virtual Boy
@Moonlessky
But if that's the case, what did they use for the footage of this trailer?
Is it just a mock-up because it would look really ugly to have the VR display visual on a phone trailer?
Re: Nintendo Announces Launch Line-Up For Switch Online Virtual Boy
My only question going into the trailer was if we're allowed to play these games n 2D without the peripheral and unfortunately they still haven't been upfront about it.
Edit: They've added an article to Nintendo Today that confirms its required. So bizarre.
Re: WarioWare's Original Soundtrack Has Been Added To Nintendo Music
I just realised that the music for Balancing Act is just part of the vocal track that plays during Wario Land 4's first level. That's so cool!
Re: Random: Here's To Robert Burns And His Long-Standing Relationship With...Animal Crossing?
I wish I liked New Horizons.
I loved playing the tutorial, but as soon as the game stopped giving me things to work towards and instead told me to make my own fun, I immediately bounced off it. Every time I try to revisit the game I find nothing to do.
Re: Review: Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade (Switch 2) - A Big, Bold Reimagining, And A First-Class Port
I really couldn't seem to enjoy the original FF7 past when you leave Midgar, but the entire Midgar section was one of the best RPGs I've ever played.
I've been enjoying the remake on my PS5 and I love how it basically only covers the part of the original game that I enjoyed.
Re: Kirby Air Riders Is Getting Its First Update Of 2026 "Soon"
@Dev-N
I'll be so upset if this game goes the way of Dream Buffet before I get the chance to play it.
Re: Hi-Fi Rush Has Been Rated For The Switch... Again
I started playing this on my laptop last month. Its a lot of fun, I recommend.
Re: Persona's 30th Anniversary Website Teases "The Next Chapter For The Series"
@AussieMcBucket
When Kirby Adventure Wii first came out, my dad went to all these game stores asking for it and they all kept giving him Epic Yarn. If you don't follow Persona, I wouldn't blame you for not immediately knowing P5X is the gatcha mobile game, P4U is the fighting game, P5S is the musou-esque spin-off and P6X is the next mainline entry.
Re: Persona's 30th Anniversary Website Teases "The Next Chapter For The Series"
@AussieMcBucket
Not, of course, to be confused with Persona 5 The Phantom X for mobile devices.
Re: Opinion: Metroid Prime 4 Does This One Thing Better Than Any Other Nintendo Game
@UpsideDownRowlet
I was gonna say.
It doesnt matter how much thematic sense it makes for X to be punch upwards and B to be punch downwards, nothing will make jumping on A feel intuitive.
Re: Opinion: Metroid Prime 4 Does This One Thing Better Than Any Other Nintendo Game
That comment about Aonuma intentionally designing the button placement to be a certain way reminded me of how Sonic Frontiers lets the player completely configure the players top speed, acceleration, air drag and several other components of the character controller which a more confident studio would just lock the player to the ideal settings.
I definitely agree that remapping should be available for accessibility reasons, but for general played experience outside of that I can understand the conflict between letting the player play however they want vs keeping the developer's creative vision intact.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch 2's GameCube Library With Another Game
@Bass_X0
...if anything, the lack of accessibility to the previously numbered entry makes the newer entry harder for a lot of people to get into. I certainly won't be playing Prime 4 until I've played the other two games. This isn't like how I've had no desire to buy new Mario Parties when old ones are on N64 Classics; these 4 games are one ongoing evolving series.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch 2's GameCube Library With Another Game
@GameOtaku
I suppose, but I can't imagine a lot of players would avoid avoid buying Prime 4 if they have access to Prime 2. Maybe that's naive, but they're numbered entries in a series. If you've already played the first three, surely you're already invested enough to play the last, no? At the very least, I can't imagine anyone feels like Prime 2 is interchangeable or will financially compete with Prime 4 what with the completely different setting and mechanics. In fact...
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch 2's GameCube Library With Another Game
@EarthboundBenjy
I'll concede on that.
I heard rumblings on there being a character named Stelux or something returning from previous entries but I don't pretend to know anything about Prime 2 or 3.
Re: Disappointed In The Switch 2's Joy-Con Colours? Dbrand Has You Covered
I find the complaints that the Switch 2 lacks colour kinda amusing since it's literally the most colourful Nintendo, console I've ever owned.
My GBA SP, DS, Wii, 3DS, Wii, Wii U, Grey Joy-Con Switch, all monochrome. I think even my GameCube is grey. But the Switch 2 has these really cool accents. I really hope they release a bundle with the new purple and green because they look really classy.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch 2's GameCube Library With Another Game
@Bass_X0
Why would anyone play Prime 4 without having played Prime 2 first?
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch 2's GameCube Library With Another Game
@Dee123
I wish they added it earlier
Re: Nintendo Reveals First New Joy-Con 2 Colours For Switch 2
@cvrator
I'd rather lose every game console and game I own than live in America, you have my deepest and most sincere condolences /j
Re: Nintendo Reveals First New Joy-Con 2 Colours For Switch 2
@Markatron84
A week after, I was with a member of staff afterwards who was looking through all the lost property on his iPad. I saw lots of lost phones and passports and other valuables which put my problems into perspective. As frustrating as it was to lose my Switch 2, at least it can be replaced.
Re: Nintendo Reveals First New Joy-Con 2 Colours For Switch 2
@kmtrain83
It felt like a bad dream in the moment.
I received it as a gift and thought everyone would be really upset with me.
I was so embarrassed, I literally felt like I shouldn't be left responsible for anything afterwards.
Everyone was really kind and understanding though.
I'm trying to be more alert going forward.
Re: Nintendo Reveals First New Joy-Con 2 Colours For Switch 2
@Luigia
Thanks for the kind words. I got mine on Amazon so it's probably not insured, though maybe it should've been.
Worse than the financial element, it's just really embarrassing. I thought I was too grown-up to do something like that, but I just wasn't paying attention. It's such a stupid mistake, I want to go back in time and slap my past self.
But its too late to go back and fix it, so I can only be grateful that I only lost a game system and some games instead of anything irreplaceable.
Also I still have the Switch 1 and a newfound appreciation for the idiot-proofness of digital games.
Re: Nintendo Reveals First New Joy-Con 2 Colours For Switch 2
I wonder if this'll come in a bundle with the system or if you have to buy them separately.
Re: Mario Tennis Fever Overview Trailer Serves Up A Host Of Fresh Features
@LordFunkalot
Imagine if they let you swap at will on ranked online. You could have a powerful attack one when youre on offence, but switch to that defensive dash one when you need to make a quick save.
Even if it doesn't let you do that online, I love the way it lets you counter other people's Fever attacks and send it back at them.
Also yeah the mechanical variety in stages look much more interesting which is great. Ever since Open, the courts have all been pretty same-y compared to how zany Power Tennis got.
Re: Nintendo Reveals First New Joy-Con 2 Colours For Switch 2
I accidently left my Switch 2 on the tube (which also had all my physical games in its case) a couple months ago and it was never found. I was really bummed and decided I wanted to wait for some kind of special edition or bundle or different colour before I got a replacement so it wouldn't feel like just getting the same thing again. Haven't decided if I'll go for this specific colour, will have to see.
Re: Mario Tennis Fever Overview Trailer Serves Up A Host Of Fresh Features
As for this game, I love how they've kept the fighting game elements I loved from Aces. I saw in one of the menus that you can set it where you can swap between two Fever rackets at a time and I really hope that you can play like that on Ranked online.
I'm sceptical about the story mode though. I'd love a full-on Camelot RPG that expands on what the GBA games did, but I found the story mode in Aces to be way less interesting than it was advertised to be and really really short.
But it looks cool. Maybe when it goes on sale someday.
Re: Talking Point: Does It Bother You That Big Games Companies Are Using GenAI?
@Robot99
You can prevent AI overviews from Google Searches by adding -ai at the end of your search request.
Re: Fans Uncover Unused Dialogue From Metroid Prime 4
Wait, I'm confused.
If you hear this dialogue by listening in on the conversations in Fury Green, wouldn't that mean they're present in the game?
Or by "listening in", do they mean checking the game's files?
Re: Reminder: Virtual Boy For Switch And Switch 2 Are Available On The My Nintendo Store
I'm so confused why the expensive version doesn't come with the Virtual Boy controllers which is what I assume the main appeal of these retro collectors items is. You want to feel exactly like you're playing these games as they were, but wouldn't using Joy-Con undermine that?
Re: Cowabunga! TMNT Roguelike 'Splintered Fate' Is Heading To Switch 2 Next Week
@JohntheRaptor
We should start using "Rogue-ish" or "Rogue-eque" as the umbrella term to dodge the issue all together.
Re: Feature: "It's A Bit Of A Joke At This Point" - Skyrim Dev On Returning For A Switch 2 Re-Release
Playing this game in VR is absolutely insane. I only did for a couple hours, but it was breathtaking just being there. I feel like playing it on any other device would be underwhelming by comparison.
That being said, I don't know if I have the patience to set up Steam VR and install all of the mods so I'll probably just never properly play Skyrim.
Re: Super Mario Run Scores A Super Mario Galaxy + Super Mario Galaxy 2 Event
@Lizuka
Huh, I guess I never got Maker 3DS or Maker 2.
And when you think about all the countless NSMBU courses the community made for Maker 2, it means I haven't even played the smallest fraction of the NSMB levels that have been created so far.
Nevermind, I am a fake fan.
Re: Super Mario Run Scores A Super Mario Galaxy + Super Mario Galaxy 2 Event
I want to actually get this game and play it to completion at some point. It's the only NSMB I haven't given the time of day.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Kirby Air Riders?
@Jayvir
Yeah, sounds the same as New Horizons where the only reason to do any activity is to get aesthetic props that don't do anything.
I still really want the game though. The demo was a blast and Ill probably get more out of decorating a machine than I will an island.
...also because the moment-to-moment gameplay of racing and boosting and fighting is satisfying and rewarding in and of itself.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Kirby Air Riders?
@Jayvir
Thats the major issue I had with New Horizons and Mario Kart World so I really hope it doesn't hurt my experience with this game too.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Kirby Air Riders?
@Jayvir
Have you looked into completing the checklist?
I haven't gotten the game yet so I can't comment personally, but if you find you're able to get invested in completing all of the tiny quests littered across all of the games modes than hopefully it should keep you busy for a long while.
Re: Review: Kirby Air Riders (Switch 2) - Incredibly Chaotic, But Satisfyingly Deep & Rewarding Racing
@canaryfarmer @MatthewTaranto
Theres this advert for a product called Marmite (its this spread you can put on bread) and the slogan is "You either love it or you hate it."
It basically just means your milage will vary wildly on if its your thing or not.
Re: "Consumers Generally Do Not Care" About AI In Games, Says Former Square Enix Exec
The roblox game could probably just be a novelty. Its not necessarily reflective of how audiences would feel about AI usage in standard games.
Re: Review: Kirby Air Riders (Switch 2) - Incredibly Chaotic, But Satisfyingly Deep & Rewarding Racing
I'm seriously really excited about this one. City Trial during the demo was phenomenal and Im so happy about the substantial single player content
Re: Review: Kirby Air Riders (Switch 2) - Incredibly Chaotic, But Satisfyingly Deep & Rewarding Racing
I cant wait to be Bandana Waddle Dee for the rest of my life 😁
Re: ICYMI: More Pokémon Legends: Z-A DLC News Is Coming Our Way Tomorrow
@RupeeClock
Air Riders isn't getting roguelike DLC because the roguelike mode is already included in the base game.
Also, just because there aren't progression systems in the rest of Mario Kart World, it doesn't mean they can't create some for a new mode. New abilities or mechanics are an undertaking, but adding upgrades that change parameters like speed and jump height are (probably) practical without too much testing needed.
I'd love to see Kart World get a substantial single player mode of some kind since I really enjoyed the P Switches but they're too sparse to find new ones after you've collected a lot of them. Honestly, single player stuff is why I'm so hyped for Air Riders honestly.
Re: Top 100 Nintendo Games, As Chosen By Nintendo Life & IGN
Spoilers: Galaxy 2 beating Galaxy 1 makes me happy. The midnight launch for Galaxy 2 is a treasured memory for me..
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Switch 2 Compatibility Update Released
@Friendly
Fixed, thanks