The New Year has begun, and after a 2015 that was considered reasonable by a number of Nintendo Life readers, the hope is that 2016 can be a blockbuster year for the company. Less 'not bad', and more 'holy moly that was amazing'.
The exciting thing is that it could go either way. This is going to be a 12 month period that brings new hardware into the light, see Nintendo launch new services and smartphone apps, and also hopefully deliver on one of the most anticipated experiences of this generation. Not only are delayed projects finally going to arrive, but the unexpected will also be part of the year's narrative.
Well, there are a few tentpole announcements and releases that should come this year, so to get us all warmed up we've outlined key examples below.
Nintendo NX - The Reveal (and release?)
One thing is for sure, the Nintendo NX will be revealed this year, and we'll know just what Nintendo is bringing to the market in an effort to seize momentum and perhaps lead the industry again. After domination with the DS and Wii it's been a case of consolidation with 3DS and survival with Wii U; the Wii brand will be dropped, for one thing, and there's every chance that Nintendo will raise eyebrows.
Many questions remain, of course, with plenty of rumours both feasible and ridiculous pinging around the web. Our instinct for a long time, based on past comments by former Nintendo President Satoru Iwata and other sources such as patents, is that this could be a unified system incorporating home console and portable elements. Some patents also point to Cloud resources being a big part of the system's armoury, perhaps to boost its capabilities beyond what's in the box. Beyond that patents for portables with free form screen technology are also intriguing.
Of course, the NX release window will also be an interesting point to follow. Considering the respective market positions of 3DS and Wii U we feel a Holiday 2016 release should ideally be the target, but whether that's on the cards is something else entirely. Also, we're hoping to get a good look at the sorts of games that'll make up an NX launch library; does Retro Studios have something in the works, will fan-demand help deliver games like Super Mario Galaxy 3?
Time will tell. Finally, we're curious to see what the hardware will be called; NX has already been ruled out (thankfully), so it'll be fascinating to see what branding is chosen.
The Launch of Nintendo Account / My Nintendo
It's easy to be blasé about it now, but the Nintendo Network and Nintendo Network ID were a big step forward on 3DS / Wii U, bringing user services closer to those expected on Sony and Microsoft hardware. Combined with promotions these accounts have worked quite well, though the reward programme Club Nintendo was always out of touch and isolated.
With that service being cancelled in 2015, its replacement of 'My Nintendo' accounts - which will exist under a broader 'Nintendo Account' infrastructure - ended up slipped from a planned Fall 2015 release to March this year, making this one of the earliest developments for Nintendo fans to watch closely.
The service has been developed closely with DeNA, which has expertise in online infrastructure, and sounds full of promise. It'll be possible to login with social media accounts such as Twitter and Facebook, and it's set to track not only game purchases but also play time, with the prospect for rewards of various types - physical, DLC, eShop credit and so on - for various activities. Talk of each account being heavily personalised and catered, along with future compatibility with theme parks and other external events, point to a system tied not only into gaming systems but also our smartphones and tablets.
Going Mobile With DeNA, Miitomo and Pokémon Go
Much of the above is being led by DeNA, as mentioned, and we'll also see the first smart device app from that partnership in March 2016 - Miitomo. It's a social, message-based app that'll utilise Mii characters to enable friendly and supportive communication with friends. The intention seems to be to take social media ideas, yet apply structure, Mii characters and controls to encourage positive conversation through 'Starters' generated by the app. So, for example, your profile may say you like Tennis, friends will see this and can join in and chat about the topic.
Miitomo, as a concept, has been rather divisive. Some argue that it has the potential to be a huge success, especially if Nintendo successfully monetises the free-to-download app with outfits etc, while others think it'll fail to sustain a userbase away from established alternatives like Facebook. The truth is we won't find out until March, but it'll be intriguing to see.
Of course, Pokémon Go is also due this year, in development by Niantic and potentially delivering a fun AR-based experience for the iconic franchise.
Beyond that we can expect to see and perhaps play one or two more smartphone apps from DeNA. Whether these will be app-like experiences or games will be a key talking point as the year progresses.
The Legend of Zelda for Wii U (and NX?)
Nintendo has been emphatic on one key point - the next major entry of The Legend of Zelda will come to Wii U; whether it'll also come to the NX, straddling generations as Twilight Princess did with GameCube / Wii, is something altogether different. TP, of course, is also getting the HD remaster treatment for a March release.
It's been intriguing to follow the development and delays of Zelda Wii U, partly because of the secrecy around it and the bold ambition shared in those infrequent updates. Series producer Eiji Aonuma has spoken about shaking up the formula of the series, creating a large and dynamic open world and giving players freedom in their approach. Talk of that freedom also raises questions around how the narrative will be structured, and whether this is an entry that'll adopt conventions seen elsewhere in terms of character creation and flexible story-telling.
The ambition is clear, and at some point this year Nintendo will need to be clear and explain when the game is coming (it's expected this year, but some have doubts) and what form it'll take. Frankly, the sooner the better, as fake (probably) videos and 'leaks' are already popping up; we'd prefer that Nintendo get ahead of the chatter before it goes too far.
2016 is, of course, a 30th Anniversary year for the franchise, so we hope for big things.
An E3 on the Front Foot, With Anniversaries to Celebrate
In terms of how Nintendo approaches E3, we're big fans. The structure of a smaller pre-E3 'Direct', a live event of some kind, a Digital Event and the daily Treehouse streams has worked well over the last couple of years. The approach is fantastic, and allows fans around the world to enjoy all that E3 has to offer, short of actually playing the demo builds.
While the structure is strong, the content needs to be there too, and we don't think it's unfair to say that 2015 was a rough year. Rightly or wrongly, as it's all about opinions, last year's showing prompted a negative reaction in some parts of the web, with some particular reveals sparking near mutinous responses. It wasn't a strong year, overall, and Nintendo needs to get back on the front foot this year.
It should have all of the tools to do that. Some of the points we've highlighted above, particularly NX, could give Nintendo all the material it needs to have a significant impact at the event; let's not forget that this year is also the 20th Anniversary of the Pokémon franchise, in addition to the the aforementioned Zelda landmark. If Nintendo can wow the crowds and mainstream media, while still doing things the 'Nintendo' way, then it could be a special event.
Those are key areas, as we see them, and of course there are a host of big name games and releases not mentioned here - Star Fox Zero, Pokken Tournament and more besides.
Let us know in the comments what you think of the reveals and releases we've highlighted above, and what you expect to be the decisive moments for Nintendo in 2016.
I want more muppets
2016 is Metroid's 30th anniversary too.
Since in 2014 they went with Robot Chicken and 2015 they went with Muppets for E3, I'm really curious what they will do for 2016.
Seriously, wondering how they will present these games is starting to become as exiting as the reveals for the games themselves.
Should be a great year for Nintendo, but a big question for me is still the President as an unknown entry. I really don't know how much power the guy has, but we haven't heard a lot about QOL lately have we? Didn't even make this speculative top 5 list. So will he go all out on new NX harware, or try to milk Wii U for another year now that it has a bit of momentum in Japan? PS4 finally has some games coming out out in 2016 - Uncharted 4, Ratchet and Clank, FFXV if Sque nix is to be be lived - so the compete ton will be heating up. Will the new President be willing to sell hardware at a loss or insist on making a profit on each unit sold? Will he decide to split up NX I to home and portable as Wii U and game pad was an expensive lodi g proposition? We never know what Nintendo is thinking, but now we have an unknown as well.
And 2015 was such a bad year in all my recaps I had completely forgotten about Club Nintendo going away - it was so long ago in the US - and it's successor being delayed, that 2016 has to be a better year just for getting My Nintendo up and running.
Star fox Zero
Should be a great year, but we'll see if they can capitslize. I hope so. Regardless, it just has to be better than 2015, I don't see any way for it to be worse.
@Shiryu 2016 is also Kid Icarus's 30th anniversary.
@Shiryu Looks like Federation Force will be filling the Metroid anniversary game gap this year then. I do hope they have more than that to give us this year. Not that I think it will be a bad game or anything, but I want a proper Metroid experience.
I have been thinking about the NX for a while and came up with a crazy idea, everyone thinks it is a hybrid console, but what if it is a cross platform console, able to connect to the Wii U, Xbox one or the Playstation 4! Here is some 'evidence' from various leaks and patents.
The next console won't have a disc drive. ( it wouldn't need one because it would use the drive in the console it is joined with. )
The patent for a supplemental cloud computing device that people assumed attached to the NX, what if it is the NX and attached to any console to allow you to play Nintendo games on any console.
Nintendo have said they will not abandon current Wii U owners.
Price is said to be around $150, this is doable with this.
10- 15 million units sold in 1st year. With an install base of current gen consoles at over 50 million now this is a good estimate.
Phil Spencer has said a number of times he would like to see Nintendo games on the Xbox.
Nintendo have said they are doing something new that the industry hasn't seen before, could this be it? probably not but I think it could be a winner for everyone if they go this way.
Zelda U, Starfox Zero, Paper Jam, and Fates and my hunger will stop. I'll take Legends under consideration.
I really hope Zelda isn't a dual release between Wii U and NX. That didn't work out so well for TP. And I'd rather NX was still released in 2017, rather than try to move it forward because the Wii U is grinding to a halt. It would feel a bit rushed, and could possibly even hurt the launch if there are significant hardware snags that need to be fixed with patches.
2015 could have been so much more but what I got has been great. Splatoon, XenoBlade, and FRN for Wii U. Code Name S.T.E.A.M. and SteamWorld Heist for 3DS, a humble bundle and lots of fun gaming with my sons.....but the delays of Zelda and Star Fox, cancellation of Project C.A.R.S. and some other minor issues turned what seemed like an epic year into an ok.
2016 has an epic feel to it....all the RPG's for 3DS, Zelda, Star Fox, FE x SMT for Wii U plus what ever other surprises are lined up. I feel like it will be a great year for Nintendo fans......E3 probably needs to wow the masses to pull in the non/on the fence fans though.
@rjejr if you research his background you will soon realize he is a business man straight up. He is just focusing on managing the company on the right direction while Miyamoto and company focuses on the games.
2016 is the year of nintendo
My toad senses is telling me is that Zelda U is gonna slip to next year considering what little info we have of this game, even with much down time ya have to keep the hype going. If ya gonna show of Zelda U Ninty. It has to be now. Not later, NOW. Ya cant keep it under wraps for much longer.
The NX is what I'm all about. For me, it will be a turning point: Do I want to "stick" with Nintendo for another few years if I like what I see, or will I go back to my Xbox by and large? I spent the previous two generations with the PS2 and then the 360, but this time around took my chances with the Wii U. Overall, I am happy I did, but I am starting to waver. The NX reveal and its initial lineup will be very, very important for me.
@Captain_Toad In that case, when do you think ReCore, a game that Microsoft said is slated for Spring 2016 yet we haven't seen a single second of gameplay for, is coming?
@rjejr Whatever NX is, it's all on Iwata, not Kimishima. Kimishima is carrying out Iwata's plans. NX is too far along for Kimishima to make any drastic changes.
Alright, 2016 looks like it'll be good (well...better than 2015, at least. We have to see how things go along). I mean, right off the bat there's already several games that I'm looking forward to (Starfox, FE Fates, Paper Jam, Federation Force, TP HD, the last of the Smash dlc, Zelda U, and more Mario Maker updates), which is good. And as for the NX, I think it'll have an alright reveal. I'm guessing that it'll be at E3, because it just seems like the appropriate time to reveal it (in case anyone says that it should be revealed early because it'll be a 2016 release, I honestly don't think that it'll happen. I think 2017 would be better, just to get more time to have a good launch lineup.). As for Nintendo's foray into mobile...I have no idea how it'll go. Maybe it'll do good, maybe it won't. Who knows. But what I do know is that analysts (not gonna name anyone) will keep saying that Nintendo should've just done something like put the next big Mario game on a phone. Also, looking forward to My Nintendo, and I really...REALLY hope that E3 goes better this year (I feel like I wasted my time getting hyped for it last year.).
@Seacliff I can see them doing something like the Simpsons.
Love the Wii u but bring on NX.
I might be out of the loop but if the quality of ife / health stuff is still around that could be key too. Good financials allow Nintendo to take risks and produce games that might not be massive money spinners (metroid, galaxy etc)
I'm very scared and excited. Don't ruin this Nintendo.
Well let's hope it's a lot better than last year...two great games for Wii U and sod all for the 3DS. How anyone voted it a great year for Nintendo is beyond me....my faith in Nintendo is running low these days.
To be honest, I just want to play great games this year, and nothing less. I'm so pumped for Star Fox Zero and Paper Jam, so at least I have some games to look forward to. Let's not forget Zelda U!
Fire Emblem's 25th anniversary too. This year is gonna be great for Nintendo.
I'm betting that this year will be a better one for Nintendo. Their lineup in the coming few months is full of (mostly) new games: Paper Jam (NA), Fire Emblem Fates, Pokemon RBY on the 3DS VC, Star Fox Zero, Twilight Princess HD, and Hyrule Warriors Legends just to name a few.
"The Legend of Zelda for NX (and Wii U?)"
Also, TP HD is the cushion/apology for the aforementioned blow.
Fire Emblem Fates and Bravely Second/Paper Jam automatically make this year great, only thing that could make this year even better for me is if we get a western announcement of Monster Hunter Cross.
@Splatburst That one I've got it covered.
With Fire Emblem Fates, Pokken, DQVIIR, DQVIIIR and Zelda it's a good year for me game wise. Everything else is a nice bonus for me.
@AcidGhost lol nope will never happen
There's Fire Emblem Fates, Final smash dlc, Starfox Zero, Pokken, Zelda Wii U, and a bunch of other titles I'm looking forward to. This is looking to be a very good year! ^^
Speaking of anniversaries, this year marks the 25th Anniversary of when F-Zero came out in Japan (which was in 1990)! (24 when it came out in North America and 23 when it came out in Europe.)
Still hoping for a Super Mario Galaxy 3 announcement. I hope I'm not disappointed for the third year in a row...
@FabioSMASH I'm starting to feel that this might be true. I think the only reason that Reggie still has a job right now is because he agreed to go out and point-blank lie about the future of Zelda U during that last Direct by repeatedly saying that it's still inbound for the current hardware.
@AcidGhost I obviously have no idea, but I wanted to say well done for thinking outside the box!
I'm just going to be honest apart from 4 Wii U games 2015 was awful for Nintendo and I mean awful this year better be alot better
I'm more bothered about pikmin 4 and starfox than anything else surprisingly!?! For some reason I'm a bit on the fence about nx.....I don't Think I'll be day one again.
@Stu13 nope. It will be on the wiiu
One thing's for sure, with the currently known lineup, 2016 will definitely be a better year for the 3DS than 2015 and arguably 2014.
Looking forward to Star Fox Zero and Pokken. Will be getting Ratchet & Clank and Gravity Rush Remastered on my PS4.
It's Mother 3's 10th Anniversary too. You know what to do, Nintendo.
Obviously, Nintendo isn't gonna pull a Twilight Princess on Zelda U. The game they'll be pulling a Twilight Princess on is.... Twilight Princess HD
@Stu13 Okay, now you guys are just grasping at the straws.
@Rhino47 If there was ever a perfect year to localize Mother 3, it would be this one.
@IceClimbers That's a funny coincidence, as I too am looking forward to all four of those games actually. I plan on getting Star Fox Zero, Pokkén Tournament, and Gravity Rush Remastered; as my younger brother is a huge fan of the Ratchet and Clank series I've no need to worry about purchasing the new game myself.
This year will actually mark the first year I'll be properly playing on the PS4, which will be kind of weird, as I'll have to do so by visiting my older brother's house each time I want to play on it. He's the PS4 owner of the family... though it is admittedly a PS4 that I bought him for his Birthday.
Well, my 2DS will see some playtime this year with Fire Emblem Fates, Dragon Quest VII, Dragon Quest VIII, and the VC versions of Pokemon RBY.
As for the Wii U, there are some good games coming out, but the Xbox One is also getting some awesome games in 2016 like Doom, Shadow Warrior 2, and others, so that system will get some priority.
So, looks like most of my credit in 2016 will be spent on my 2DS and Xbox One. I do have to say, Pokken Tournament does look fun.
In order of importance: -
NX reveal and launch (Nintendo absolutely need it to be out in 2016). I'm confident that with so little effort being put into the 3DS and Wii U lineups at the minute Nintendo are beavering away behind the scenes on making a great launch happen
Zelda/E3. Depends how they feed into the NX launch.
My Nintendo Account. For the fans this is big anyway. Will actually tell us a lot about their future direction.
Mobile launch. Potentially a huge revenue stream and a way to hit the casual audience.
I'd love to see a full scale remaster of that for the NX launch with the engine then being used for a sequel. Similar to what Sony have done with Gravity Rush.
"Some patents also point to Cloud resources being a big part of the system's armoury, perhaps to boost its capabilities beyond what's in the box."
Showing my ignorance again here, but what could this mean? How can the Cloud boost the capabilities of a device? By processing much of the data? Is this pointing to a device that streams games from external servers? Can anyone elucidate?
Streaming, being multi-device capable, would be compatible with the hybrid rumours. Nintendo Account could be the gateway to those online services. In any case, looking forward to finally having more details.
Another gimmick for the next E3 presentation would be nice. The Robot Chicken one was a lot of fun, if only for the sake of seeing their art style used for family-friendly humor (or the irony of seeing Stoopid Monkey doing stuff for Nintendo after their commercial for PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale), although "family-friendliness" is still a bit of a stretch given the rather testicular move of showing Reggie outright murdering a MOTHER fan. As for the Muppets, that's what makes me hope for more skits... what's next? Aardman? Matt Groening? Weird Al Yankovic making a guest appearance? Sock puppetry? Whatever, Ninty, go wild!
As for the games themselves, well, after E3 2015, we'll need "another E3 2010" to even the score. And I'm not doubting that Nintendo can pull it off.
@Souldin Sounds about right. I haven't really had too much time with my PS4 so far due to either lack of interest or lack of time for many of the games. Other members of the household played Fallout 4 and The Witcher 3, but I've had no time for them.
Hoping I have more time this year for games.
@Caryslan Oh yeah, Dragon Quest VIII. How'd I forget about that one? That's a for-sure purchase.
If we get all five of these released, it'll be a good year. Although I have a feeling NX will be for next year, but so long as they show it off and maybe release a final name that doesn't include the word "Wii" or "New" in the title, it'll still be a good year.
There are only 2 things that I really want from the NX:
That isn't too much to ask for is it??
I hope they don't put too much focus on anniversaries. It's just an amount of time that's passed since something happened. Let's put energy into creating new games instead of worrying so much about doing something to mark how long it's been since some old ones came out.
2016 is going to be huge. I feel it's make or break for Nintendo with me. If NX is a machine for the gamers, then brilliant, but Nintendo show no sign of giving up on that casual crowd. They'd much rather get a slice of that giant mobile market than please the people that had N64s and Gamecubes. That does worry me when I think about what direction they're going to go in with their hardware. Hopefully this is all unfounded though, and the complete lack of good Wii U games revealed over the last 18 months would suggest their main teams have to be working on something.
The good news is you won't have to worry about physical media, as Nintendo has entered the digital market only recently.
The bad news is that there's no "if" with the other concern of yours. Thankfully a NintendoLife account works on PushSquare as well!
What if the anniversaries are celebrated with brand new games?
The whole Robot Chicken thing last year was funnier IMO. But as long as they give me us a new Metroid and a new F-Zero, I don't care what skit they do to present them. Advance Wars would be nice too...
@AlexSora89 Why are you so sure about that? According to this article they're strongly considering making the NX region-free:
I would be surprised if Nintendo is the only video game company that still region locks their consoles in 2016...but yeah, it's totally possible that they will disappoint again. I'll try to stay somewhat optimistic though.
I'd like to see the N64's 20th anniversary marked in some way. Another notable 3DS remake would go down well - F-Zero X for example. Or a Wii U VC game from Rare! Both seriously unlikely but one can dream...
None of it will mean squat if Big N doesn't do proper marketing for the NX this time around. Their advertising approach the last several years has been somewhere near pathetic to downright irresponsible.
@Captain_Toad I think all they're doing is intentionally holding back information/details because they know LoZ speculation can tend to overshadow their other releases and diminish interest in them by having players only focusing on or thinking about it even though it was much further away from release.
I mean the little they showed at E3 2014 already had people speculating like crazy, suggesting Link might be a girl and so on. If they ever had a detailed trailer it would have surely shifted focus away from games that needed it like Splatoon. I'd wager they won't show any more of it to us until Fire Emblem Fates and Star Fox Zero are released, they'll probably use it to hype E3 2016.
Maybe also their theme park plans and QOL device will both be revealed this year as well.
@FabioSMASH of course someone has to come and say something stupid and start trolling
@IceClimbers "NX is too far along for Kimishima to make any drastic changes."
Well I doubt very highly the price is set yet and the price might make a difference. Also whether to bundle a game or not. Or how much storage to put in. The 8B didn't help sell the Wii U, and I think the $349 32GB was too expensive after the $249 Wii swept the nation. I honestly believe people always ask for choice, but when they have a choice to make they hesitate - I won't buy the 8GB for $299 b/c it doesn't have a game but I also won't buy the 32GB for $349 b/c it costs to much.
So there are decisons to be made - lots of storage for a higher price with a bundled game, no game low storage, or offer both. Sony really was planning on bundling it's Eye camera with PS4 until about 2 weeks before E3. There are decisions to be made 10 months before launch.
Got exams this year so it's not a great time to be looking at games haha, after exams illt have loads of time though so Zelda U please come in Summer when I can spend all my days playing you! Also I really want a new Pokémon 3DS game I'm not upset about us not having one last year but I would like one this year I just don't like the way game freak aren't saying anything and I hope they're not making GO the main game replacement!
@candy94 lol That's what I said last year. xD
@DoctorOverbuild I've got exams this year, too! It's so annoying that I probably won't be playing Fire Emblem: Fates until very late June/early July. ;(
SLIGHTLY OFF-TOPIC: Start revising right now and it'll save you revising all the time when exams start to come round. I've spent a whole 4 hours today revising and, to be honest, I think I could have done a bit more if I woke up a bit earlier. Doing this every day until the exams adds up!
If Nintendo is going to reveal the NX at E3, they are probably going to do a live press conference... I can't imagine a console reveal in a 'digital event' or Nintendo Direct video!
And for Pokemon... well we didn't get any proper pokemon game in 2015 so I would assume we are getting a new (not remake) pokemon game in 2016, especially because it's the 20th anniversary of the franchise.
NX has to come out fighting with Nintendo satisfying everyone who's been disappointed this year, they have SUCH a strong arsenal. Off the top of my head:
Zelda U/NX for sure
Super Mario Galaxy 3/Super Mario 3D World 2
Backward compatibility and crazy new content for Super Mario Maker
Mario Kart 9
F Zero NX
Kid Icarus - sideways shooter, 3D adventure, platformer, SO much potential
Metroid 5 of course. Back to basics and HUGE
Advance Wars 2
Fire Emblem for the NX
And get the other guys in there as well with exclusives that would fit so perfectly:
Castlevania (Simon Belmont should have been in SSB!) - proper sequel, huge again and stunning with music to match like Super Castlevania.
There's so much, if even half of that came off they would have won before the race even started and that's without getting the latest 3rd party guys on board.
I've over excited myself I need to lie down lol.
@DoctorOverbuild I feel your pain!! In 2015, I was in year 11 and I had to wait until my very last exam on June 11th to play Splatoon! I actually pre ordered the game and received it when it released because I wanted the special edition but I did not open it... kept it sealed until I came home from that last exam! I hardly played games for over 2 months to ensure that I didn't fail! Hard work really does pay off!
The exams period was stressful, but trust me you will be soooo relieved when you finish and have that nice long over 2 month summer holiday! Then came results day on August 20th. Good luck!
@rjejr That's true. On top of that, Mr. Miyamoto even said that the New 3DS was almost finished without the improved 3D tracking system. He was the one resposible for getting that put into the New 3DS.
This year is make or break for the NX and maybe even Nintendo as a whole. They can't afford to make big mistakes with the NX like they did with the Wii U, or else they are third for the second time in a row. As dedicated console gaming declines, it is important that Nintendo establishes a connection with gamers who plan to stay in the medium a while, they can't recapture the kind of people they did with the Wii and DS.
@123akis @NintendoFan990 Thanks guys I'm already starting to feel the pain! I'll have to play fates though I absolutely love FE! Unless of course if it's an exam then I won't I'm starting to revise an hour an evening Monday it'll be hard but worth it!
I'm overall very excited for 2016 with Nintendo. The 3DS has a great lineup for the beginning of the year with heavy hitters such as Mario and Luigi: Paper Jam, Final Fantasy Explorers, Project X Zone 2, Fire Emblem Fates, Bravely Second, and Dragon Quest. The Wii U also has a somewhat solid lineup. I'm excited to finally play through Twilight Princess as I have only played up to the first dungeon since I never actually owned the game (although I'm not wild about spending 60 bucks for a re-release). Star Fox Zero looks like it has potential, Pokken Tournament is going to be crazy, Shin Megami X Fire Emblem looks interesting (still not exactly sold on it yet), and the new Zelda is a going to be massive.
In terms of keeping up with 2016, Nintendo has to make a solid reveal for the NX. They need to be really wise with how they market the platform, no matter what form the system ends up taking. Pricing and advertising will be key, and obviously, they need to make sure they have the games to back it up. But seeing how there haven't been any major first-party 3DS or Wii U reveals recently, I'm sure that won't be an issue. Ultimately, Nintendo is going to have one of the most interesting years in all of gaming. I'm just excited to see how they approach everything in 2016.
NX = Nintendo + XBox collaboration
Microsoft is struggling in japan
Nintendo is struggling elsewhere apart from japan
There you go .. !!
@DoctorOverbuild I don't think you have to worry about FE Fates yet as it doesn't even have a release month in Europe (the November Direct ended with no release date/month whereas for NA it was an exact date))
I have but 1 wish for the future nintendo system: No region locking. I've said it before, I'll keep saying it until it happens. Western censorship sucks & the only option at this point of circumventing it entirely is to buy another system native to its respective region.
Like, I wanted AVGN adventures on WiiU. It came out in Europe, but I see on the Aus. Eshop, Nada. Nothing. Zilch. I had to make another Nintendo Network account set to Britain just to get it from a PAL REGION ESHOP. My console is PAL, Britain is also PAL.
It blows my mind at the amount of convoluted hoops one has to go through to buy something from the SAME. REGION.
It's absolute gobshite.
I'm just ready for good games. I'm really looking forward to the line-up for the 3DS and N3DS this year. I want to see the Nintendo Account go into effect. And wondering what is going on with the NX.
@Grumblevolcano That's interesting thanks for letting me know! I hope it comes out after the exams in that nice 2 months break giving me plenty of time to play!
I think 2016 is shaping up to be a strong year for Nintendo, but that they will maintain the holding pattern of 2015 for a few months yet. But by E3 they will have blasted off. Look for the takeoff in March or so. Maybe after a really strong Direct.
Is releasing a new system almost exactly 20 years after the company's first foray into 3D gaming too predictable?
Will Nintendo aim to release their new box earlier (September-October) or wait for later (November-December)? Or will we not see the system until 2017? Can the Wii U and 3DS last that long?
Are SE's recent actions, concerning Cloud and DQ, a sure fire sign the company has further plans for Nintendo?
Will Konami tank under the pressure of losing Igarashi and Kojima? Where do those two masters fit into 2016?
Will Pokemon rise to the challenge of fierce new competition on the 3DS or is the series on its' last legs?
Can Star Fox inspire a new generation to fly higher? Where does Mario go from here? Can Link and friends help take Zelda to new heights, to meet the demands of a new generation? And, most importantly (for this year anyways) can mainstream meet independent and bring VR from headache inducing niche to millions around the world?
2016 begins, what will we see before it ends?
I'm excited to find out!
@Baker1000 What are you talking about? Twilight Princess sold twice as well as Wind Waker thanks to its dual release on Wii and GC. In fact, 7 out of 8 Twilight Princess copies bought were on the Wii. So I'd say it worked pretty well in Nintendo's favor. To release Zelda on only Wii U would be dooming the game, and Nintendo is probably not interested in sending one of their biggest AAA franchises to a console that has only sold 11-12 million units. Plus they probably want to push as many NX units as possible, and I bet Zelda is going to help with that.
I'll never understand why people want Nintendo to wait until 2017 to release the NX either. Nintendo has virtually nothing of AAA caliber on the horizon for 2016 besides Zelda. It makes zero business sense for them to sit on the now-barren Wii U/3DS for almost another two years.
@NintendoFan990 But this year you have the NX, Zelda U, Pikmin 4, Zelda twilight princess wii u, star fox wii u, mighty no.9, fire elbium and many more
P.S - sorry of there are any spelling mistakes
@FlaygletheBagel It's all about trust really, if Nintendo sends the Wii U off to its death a year early (NX releases 2016 instead of 2017) then people may be put off buying NX knowing that Nintendo could go even further anti-consumer if that console doesn't perform well (e.g. NX's replacement gets released in 2018/2019). The downward spiral would almost certainly make Nintendo no longer a console creator. I personally don't think the risk is worth it though Nintendo's not predictable at all.
2016 = Year of JRPG RETURNS ... my lord there's a lot of them coming this year, i hope i can fit them all in.
I'd say its entirely worth it. They're looking to sell NX to a much wider audience than the 11/12 million that have bought the Wii U and their strategy has to be designed to do that.
The calculated risk is that most Wii U owners are Nintendo fans who will be unable to resist NX anyway, while seasoned industry watchers will be aware that 4 years for a struggling console is actually a really good stint (far longer than Saturn, Dreamcast, Jaguar, 3DO, even the original XBox which sold 20 million+). If they think launching this year gives them the best chance of selling massive numbers, they have to do it.
Nintendo X Henson magic. Now that's an atomic duo.
Here's the thing- Nintendo chased the casuals with Wii. They came, Nintendo made a ton of cash, and then they left. And if Nintendo's smart they'll leave them be. They're not gamers, they're not dependable, and they're just not going to sustain the business in the years to come.
Nintendo has to start from the ground up, building a dependable, long-term fan base that can sustain their business. It's tough starting from scratch, and unlike with the casuals, it's not going to come 100 million at a time. No, building a sustainable, long-term fan base is going to come slowly- 10 to 20 million per generation, if that.
The thing people need to realize is, Nintendo has to build this new fan base on the foundation of alternative options. What I mean by that is, the only way forward for Nintendo is by an exclusive library that is so robust, so diverse, it can appeal to gamers just as much as a 3rd party library on rival consoles. Reason being, 3rd party multiplats are a pipe dream, and have been for some time now. By and large, there just isn't any market for those games on Nintendo platforms any more. It's a lost cause.
They can bring NX and make it just as powerful as PS4, but the fact remains that AAA multiplats don't sell to the current fanbase. So the only way to create a sustainable market for 3rd party AAA is to get people who buy those games on other platforms to buy an NX, and then buy those games on their NX instead of their usual platform of choice. And that's just not going to happen.
We all know that NX isn't going to get every single multiplat. Heck, it probably won't even get 5% of the multiplats PS4/X1 gets. But let's just pretend, hypothetically, that somehow Nintendo managed to get half of all the AAA games released on other platforms. Ok, well who is going to buy an NX for HALF of the games they want to play versus buying their usual platform of choice that they're comfortable with and loyal to, and that has ALL of the multiplats they want to play? No one, that's who. And then because no one is buying the games, support slowly drops off until eventually they're back to square one, with zero multiplats.
This is exactly why Nintendo cannot compete on the AAA scene- it's a waste of time and resources to even try, because it's a battle they cannot win. So where does that leave Nintendo? Well, it leaves them in a situation where they must focus on building an alternative ecosystem- an alternative set of platforms that offers nothing but exclusive games. Clearly offering the same games as everyone else gets them nowhere- current fans don't want the games and non-Nintendo gamers won't buy a Nintendo platform just to play the same games they're already playing on their platform of choice. But offering exclusive games you can't play anywhere else? Current fans DO want those, and non-Nintendo gamers WILL buy a Nintendo platform if there's enough exclusives they want to play.
So if they double down and crank up the output (which if NX allows each game they develop to be on both handheld and console, that alone will effectively double the number of games released), and focus on building as large and diverse a library as possible, I think they can finally start building something that will last. Slowly and steadily build an alternative ecosystem that offers enough breadth and diversity to draw in more and more PS/Xbox/PC gamers.
Keep up the high quality exclusives like we saw on Wii U, but up the ante with a little more diversity, and utilize 3rd parties to the fullest... Not to chase ports or multiplats, but to partner with and contract for exclusive deals and collaborations. Make sure you have sports covered with the Mario sports line of games- a Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, Mario Strikers, etc. Get a little more racing diversity by bringing back F-Zero, and maybe contract Sega to make an exclusive arcade racer. Get another open world game to compliment the Xeno series, perhaps by contracting a 3rd party developer or funding a project for exclusivity. Get another shooter to compliment Splatoon, maybe something a littke more gritty- again, contracting a 3rd party for an exclusive would be the right choice. Bring back Rhythm Heaven to cover the rhythm genre, localize a physical version of next Fatal Frame for horror genre, etc. And of course, there are a few exceptions with regard to multiplats and 3rd party ports- Minecraft for example is a game that NEEDS to be on Nintendo platforms.
Speaking of Arcade Racers, does anyone know what happened to 90's Arcade Racer?
I wouldn't be entirely surprised if the upcoming Zelda game was quietly cancelled for the Wii U and moved over to the NX.
@FlaygletheBagel Did I mention anything about Twilight Princess sales being hurt? I was talking about the quality of the game in general. TP's motion controls weren't exactly brilliant. You could tell it was a last minute addition to a game that originally didn't have motion controls in mind. That's why they gave us Skyword Sword, in order to make full use of the Wii's design and the more up to date motion sensors. Of course TP sold like hotcakes because A) it's Zelda and B) it was a Wii launch title (also the reason that version sold way more than the GC version)
TP wasn't a bad game by any means, it just wasn't as strong because of that mid-development console switch, and I think this upcoming game would suffer in the same way. We don't know what innovations the NX will bring but chances are the controller won't be anywhere near what the Wii U has. Do we really want a Zelda game designed for the Wii U interface being adapted for an entirely new one last minute á la GC to Wii, like TP was? I certainly don't.
@Peach64 I agree with a lot of what you said, expecially about most of the various sections of Nintendo are working on NX, either the tech ot games.
When it comes to their mobile role, I seriously don't think it will impact on their main home console division. We already know there is only going to be around 4-5 games released up until late 2017. I am sure, if they do well, then more will follow. Nintendo would need to just create a small team, dedicated to poring games to mobile decices, and then DeNa will do the rest.
Without dount, NX needs a fantastic launch lineup, and this is what makes me think, this is the reason we only know of just a few Wii U and 3DS titles coming this year. Obviously, there could be games that they just have not announced yet, and nothing would surprise me about Nintendo announcing something at the last minute.
It will certainly be a big year for Nintendo. As others have said, it is likely launching this year and has to come out swinging. The reveal and marketing must be nigh perfect.
Just how does his comment equal trolling? Because you don't agree? Because it is questioning nintendo's honesty? Because it is a bit snarky?
Seems a fairly witty, spot on remark considering the situation/history.
@Grumblevolcano its one less year. The Wii U got its 2d Mario, 3d Mario, Mario kart, Mario party, Kirby, donkey Kong, smash etc. It's still getting its Zelda. We were never promised f zero or metroid.
Not precisely what you meant but the point is 1 year earlier isn't the end of the world.
And here I am most excited about Bayonetta coming to smash bros in february. Anything Bayonetta has me intrigued. I guess Zelda U is a close 2nd, I have just lost my enthusiasm for the title at this point.
That isn't trolling
This year is so important to Nintendo. It's not going to make or break Nintendo with the success of the 3DS still carrying a huge amount of momentum. But the NX is a huge announcement coming soon to see if Nintendo can keep up on home consoles. I just hope we don't start losing Dev's from the Eahop. Seriously it seems Dev's could do better with other Markets. I think the games in the Eahop are over priced because Dev's are trying to make up for losses compared to other markets where they would probably sell more units. Unfortunately That theory is passed on to us, the consumers.
Here in America we have "birthers" who are convinced that President Obama wasn't born a US citizen..."truthers" who believe the 9/11 terror attacks were an inside job....and even "flat Earthers" who are still convinced the Earth is not spherical.
I think we need a name for people like you who will insist that Zelda U is going to be an NX release, but not a Wii U release regardless of how many times they announce and reassure us it is indeed scheduled for a Wii U release.
On top of that, while doing a cross-gen release is not a big deal anymore, and most AAA games come cross gen now...there is still literally no confirmation of Zelda U coming to NX.
@BestBuck15 ????? It's coming end of this year. How would you even think it's coming in 2017. They've already said end of 2016. The only way it would hit 2017, would be if it slipped and it ended up being early 2017
@Action51 it would be complete idiocy to not have developed a version for NX. Sheer logic dictates the delay of this game is to develop an NX build to ensure the new format has invested drive from launch day, rather then release such a huge game solely on a dead duck.
If zelda u is released on Wii u and not NX then mine so deserve to fail. But to be honest, it all but in plain site that they obviously have a build being prepared for NX. It is more likely to be cancelled for Wii u than not in development for NX.
@DESS-M-8 I would not be surprised if this is exactly what happens. Being in gaming since 1976 and seeing a few things, one thing is for sure. There are never any guarantees. I hope your wrong but I wouldn't be surprised to see it being delayed just to be cancelled for a day 1 NX release. That would be very sad.
@DESS-M-8 Wait wait wait, Nintendo never said taht the NX was coming out at the end of this year. They just said that we'd get info this year. They never said anything about a release date. Also, why does everyone think that Zelda U is going to be an NX game? Is it because it was delayed and everyone seems to think that the NX coming out this year is an absolute FACT? First of all, delays are not uncommon for Zelda titles, so that means NOTHING. Second, again, the NX is not guaranteed to be released this year.
I'm very excited for this NX reveal, more so than when the original Wii was announced after the Revolution hype.
Whatever Nintendo decides to do, contrary to what a lot of people want, I don't want to see Nintendo pile down the power house route.
Really they need an affordable machine, which does something different, and gives people a viable, good alternative to Sony and Microsoft.
If they go with this new Sharp screen technology for their controllers, that's going to be expensive, let alone making the machine up to the spec of Xbox One/PS4.
Cut in with a fun product, a good price and your onto a winner.
I still feel Wii U could of been that, but they fumbled with the marketing of the machine, and the price was too steep.
A lot of people I knew, really thought Wii U was a tablet for the original Wii.
I'm sure Nintendo will have learnt a lot with the machine, both good and bad.
@NintendoFan64 I think what he's saying is that Nintendo would release NX during Holiday 2017, and as a result they'd delay Zelda U to Holiday 2017 and cancel the Wii U version, making it NX exclusive.
That would be beyond stupid of them though.
@SahashraLA Find out next time on Dragon Ball Z!
@IceClimbers @NintendoFan64 The reveal of the NX really puzzles me.....why would Nintendo announce the codename if they are still working on it? Its probably to explain to consumers that they aren't giving up dedicated gaming systems considering the fact that they dominate the handheld market.
But in all seriousness, if they were to release the NX this year, they have to figure out how to motivate Wii U users to get the NX and at the same time, satisfy those who have or just bought a Wii U and that's really gonna be tough. It was easy to convince Gamecube owners to buy a Wii because its cheap. But Wii U owners to get the NX?
This year will test Tatsumi Kimishima's role. He's not much of a gamer....but he's a businessman so hopefully, he learns from what Hiroshi Yamauchi and Satoru Iwata did and implements it further.
OPEN THIS MESSAGE ON 25th DECEMBER 2016
I'm right, you're wrong. Deal.
What do you mean the 3DS is only a "case of consolidation"?! Despite a slow start, the thing has come roaring back to kick Vita's butt so hard Sony's dropping out of the handheld market! Nintendo's going to have a virtual monopoly on the dedicated gaming handheld market now like they did back in the days of the GBA!
Sure, they'll probably never again sell the sheer numbers of the DS (at least not until enough worldwide population growth makes up for it), but the market has since fractured with casual gamers sticking solely with smartphones now, and there's nothing any dedicated gaming handheld can do about it, while there will always still be a pretty healthy market among hardcore gamers for the depth that dedicated gaming handhelds can provide. The two sides of the market aren't really in direct competition, so Nintendo shouldn't worry about it aside from what they're already doing by providing some smartphone apps of their own.
@Socar Nintendo already explained this. They announced it early to reassure everyone that they weren't giving up on consoles after announcing their smartphone deal. If it weren't for that, we wouldn't even be hearing about this thing until around E3 this year, which is why I highly doubt we'll see it release until 2017.
@DESS-M-8 Really? That's ALL you have to say? "Shut up, I'm right!"? That's you're argument?
@JaxonH That still doesn't mean that us loyal Nintendo fans don't also want some of those AAA multiplats on our system of choice. I for one would love me some "Soul Calibur 5" or "Dead or Alive 5" had we gotten them on the Wii U. Plus, I'm sure there are a lot of Nintendo fans who haven't bought a Wii U by either defecting to Microsoft or Sony or just skipping the 8th console generation altogether due to the very sad third party support on the Wii U. Most people can't afford to buy more than one console a generation, you know. Getting those third parties back will sell more software and convince a lot of those people to return to the Nintendo fold.
In small numbers maybe, but not in any numbers large enough to make an impact.
Reason being, if a person defected, that means they value AAA first and foremost. And like you just said- if a person can only afford one console, they're not going to make it a Nintendo platform simply because it got a few multiplats, and then miss out on the other 99% that it didn't get. The only way they'd do that is if they value Nintendo games most- but if that's the case they would have never defected to begin with
@NintendoFan64 Based on your argument it would be a waste of my time to go into it anymore. I explained my argument quite clearly in my original post. I'm not trying to change your mind, you think what you want.
@JaxonH Well, if Nintendo's still not getting 99% of them, of course not. However, if they can get back even half of the major 3rd party releases, they'll win back the many gamers out there who love both Nintendo games and third party games. Even if the gamers' priority is the third party releases, they'll still come back if they can get both sets of games on one console.
@DESS-M-8 Yeah, well, your argument is flawed. You think that sheer logic points towards Zeld U being an NX game. WHAT LOGIC!? Literally the only reason that you people think that an NX version of Zelda U is guaranteed is because the game was delayed (which, as I stated in a previous post, happens frequently with Zelda games), and because you’ve gotten this idea that the NX is coming out in 2016 and that is a fact. So…the “logic” in this is a simple delay and something that isn’t even a fact, but an assumption…yeah, that’s some REAL logic! And while we’re at it, let’s look at the reasons why you guys think that a 2016 launch is guaranteed, shall we?
1.The Wii U not selling as much as the other consoles. So what you’re saying is that it would be a good idea for Nintendo to completely abandon a console that’s not selling well and pushing a new one out the door? There are several issues I see with this:
A)If they don’t take their time to make sure it has a good launch, it could end badly.
B) Would third-parties even have enough time to get prepared?
C)Some people (like recent Wii U adopters) might be upset that the Wii U gets it’s life cut short and don’t come back.
2.The rumors. Oh my God, they’re f***ing rumors! And a lot of them are full of s***! Like Nintendo shipping 20 MILLION NX units in one year, or the NX being released in the Summer.
3.It’s the only way that Zelda on NX would make sense.
So there. Have anything to say about that? Or would it just be a waste of your time?
@NintendoFan64 I think your love of Nintendo has blinded you if the basic concept of logic. By logic, I mean sound business sense.
The Wii U failed roughly 18 months ago and has limped along ever since.
Nintendo have have been developing NX for the last 3 years.
Third parties have been receiving development kits throughout 2015. Some maybe earlier.
Nintendo themselves will have developing software alongside the hardware so Nintendo and first parties have been developing games for it since 2014.
Zelda was near completion in June 2015 and has been delayed for a YEAR at least. No bug takes that long to iron out.
Nintendo have done this COUNTLESS times since the SNES. You were not even a fetus when that console was out.
I have seen this happen time and again.
I'm not saying it won't release on Wii U, I'm saying it WILL release on NX
@DESS-M-8 Where the heck are you getting that information? We don't know how long the NX was being developed, we don't know how long Nintendo's been working on software for it, we don't know when third-parties have gotten dev kits (the only way I can see them having something presentable for a 2016 release is if they got them in January), and we don't know how close to completion Zelda U was in June (and the decision to delay it was BEFORE then, and it's been stated that they delayed because they kept getting more and more ideas.). Where are your sources?
I don't know if I buy your premise of people not buying the Nintendo console because not all "multiplats" are on it. Gamers buy for a few key games, most of the time and they are already often agonizing over the couple of key exclusives each platform holds. In other words, gamers are accustomed to missing out on titles. Like everything else there is a total desirability that must overcome the resistance of a consumer and Nintendo has potential to be the most desirable even with just a few choice "multiplats" sitting beside their own titles.
The other side of this, of course, is the third party publishers and developers. It's true that 3rd party games have had challenges getting attention on previous Nintendo platforms but I don't think it's a simple "Nintendo owners don't buy third party games" explanation. It doesn't really play out that way on the DS and 3DS for one. I think Gamecube lost relevance between two very similar competitors. The Wii created a confusing market with EA trying to make casual games, for instance. Lots of failures on that console, but was it some curse of the Nintendo fan buying tendencies, or was it a combination of misunderstanding the user base, misunderstanding the wii remote, and expecting sales that matched the number of console owners when most were just interested in a few fun party games and experiments?
The Wii U was torpedoed by EA, let's face it. Doesn't matter if Nintendo backed out on something and was to blame, EA played vengeful and it worked.
All this to say if Nintendo can make the new platform(s) familiar and easier to port to, I don't see a reason for 3rd party publishers to ignore it, yet. Let's see what Nintendo has to offer first.
So imagine something a bit crazy like the new Final Fantasy on the NX at launch. A new Monster Hunter that works on console and portable interchangeably. A couple surprises like Tomb Raider and CoD with a unique feature of the new platform making it a standout. Maybe local 5 player multiplayer in CoD. Just a few key titles like these with the new Zelda and a Pikmin game, maybe a new Animal Crossing. Mario something on the way, Bayonetta 3 on the way. It's just a sweet looking deal for consumers and a platform that might be hard to overlook for other publishers and developers who see potential for a more core gamer user base with broader tastes.
Third parties could still be a big part of it given the right approach.
Of course, it's never black and white and nothing is absolute. So when I say Nintendo fans don't buy those games, what I mean is only 10k to 300k buy mature, 3rd party AAA titles, evident by the sales numbers themselves.
Of course, exclusives can do better and certainly if they're different than your standard AAA fare. So I believe in 3rd party support, just, exclusive support with games in genres that make sense.
As for luring other gamers in, there are two groups- group A only buys one console and group B can afford multiple consoles. For group A, if they're currently gaming on anything other than Nintendo, it's because they value the games on that platform (i.e. AAA multiplats). So to convince them to go with only Nintendo, they're going to miss out on any multiplat that doesn't get a port. And realistically, NX will likely see 1-5% of AAA multiplats. 20% if it's a huge success. So they're going to be missing the vast majority of the games they prefer. Are they willing to give up 80-99% of their favored games in exchange for the Nintendo platform exclusives? I doubt it. It would take getting 50-80% of AAA games I think. Most would sacrifice that much for Nintendo platform exclusives.
For group B, well, they should have already been gaming Nintendo. If they buy multiple consoles, then ya, it's a no brainer. And for this group, they already have access to multiplats so the only thing that will appeal to them are exclusives. And despite sales, Wii U has had a pretty nice spread of exclusives. If that wasn't enough to convince them, I'm not sure what will.
@NintendoFan64 I read. It has been all over the Internet. And it makes sense. Are you for real?
@DESS-M-8 That's a f*king analys'ts predictions! That doesn't mean squat! And question, by "all over the internet", are you referring to the rumors? Because they're just that: RUMORS. They can be proven wrong. At the moment, there is zero concrete evidence towards the NX launching this year. I don't care if you you think it makes sense. There is nothing that makes this guaranteed. If it does launch this year, then fine! You were right! But if it doesn't, then maybe you should wait until there's solid evidence next time, okay?
@NintendoFan64 no, because there is more chance I am right than you.
Maybe you should think about what you type before you have a melt down like a ten year old. "Shouting" and swearing just makes you seem petulant and irrational, main reason why I don't consider it worth my. I happy enough to leave this alone and reply to you at the end of the with dozens of hyperlinks proving I am right including list prices and pre-orders for the console and zelda u..... On NX.
Nintendo have STATED they will be announcing details on NX in next few months and it will be showcased at this years E3. Nintendo would not showcase the NX at E3 if they didn't plan to release it within 12 months of the show. Historically Nintendo have delivered the console to market between September and December of the same year they showcased the same console. Nintendo are famously secretive to the last minute. They would not public detail out their new hardware and then shelve it for 18 months giving competitors every chance to rip it before they launch.
See a pattern???? Nintendo show their hand at the LAST minute, always have alway will. If thy show it at E3 this year, it's coming before end of 2016. They have confirmed it will be at E3 2016.
@DESS-M-8 Admittedly, I should not have cursed. It was unprofessional, and I am sorry. However, I still have a problem with this:
Nintendo has never stated that. They just said that we would be getting information this year. That's it.
One more thing: Could you PLEASE show me those links. Please. That's all I want to see. You say that they prove you right, so why won't you show them to me? If they prove you are right, wouldn't that have gotten me to shut up already? So why won't you show them? I have asked to see your sources. Please, just show them to me.
Because I am a 33 year old grown man with a full time job, a wife, two children, doing a degree and my own interests to intend to. Reading the Internet and compiling references on behalf of you is not one of them.
Iwata announced the NX in March last year. This means Nintendo had been building the platform long before then, at the latest development started in January 2013 when they merged their hardware development teams. Especially as in June 2015, Nintendo had a closed door conference with a number of third parties to demo the new hardware with prospective developers.
3-4 months later, Nintendo were sending out development kits to third parties that hadn't already received one. Some select third party companies had development kits prior to E3 2015 June.
Nintendo have been developing software for NX for last two years, this may include some third parties (that is just speculation but does tie in wth some third parties having full knowledge of NX in early 2015, square soft were one)
The development time frame, the re-structuring and merging of the home and mobile hardware development teams in Nintendo 3 years ago along with slipped information from third parties all point to NX as near completion now.
Nintendo have confirmed the NX will be at E3 this year. Given their 100% track record of only showing new hardware at E3 if they are releasing in that year would suggest it will be out before Christmas this year.
My opinion is that the new account system and mobile apps will launch sometime between May-July and using E3 as spring board to start drawing attention. Then using the newly releasing account management and marketing software they can drive a steady stream of hype to give the NX the best possibly chance for the best sales period of this year.
Expecting to sustain this hype for a further 12 months while their ideas are stolen is not a good idea, they have never done that and I highly doubt they ever will.
End of 2016 is THE best time to launch NX, they know it and the market is telling them that. Releasing first party titles to a dwindling small user base is not a viable business model in a market where they need to draw new attention constantly. The NX is the only chance they have at having a successful financial 2016 after such a poor 2015.
All of what said is reference able if you are bothered to research and to read.
@DESS-M-8 Okay. I can see the rumors of third-parties getting dev kits last year being true. I can see them being shown the system last year. I can see some of them already having an idea for what they’re going to do for the system (Pretty sure that DQ XI is definitely going to be an NX game). But here’s the thing:
2016 is NOT the best time to launch the NX. If some of the third-parties receiving dev kits only a couple of months after E3, then they’re not gonna have something ready for launch. They have to figure out how to program for it, come up with an idea for what they’re going to do for it, and then start programming. Not only that, but it wouldn’t make the NX very third-party friendly because that would be Nintendo going “Hey! Hope you like this new system! Btw, you only have a year to make something for it. HAVE FUN!” Plus it would potentially alienate some Wii U owners by ending the system’s life earlier than expected, and could scare them away for fear that the new system could potentially suffer the same fate. Plus there’s the fact that it puts the system smack dab in the middle of the Xbone and PS4’s lifetimes, meaning that it’ll ultimately just be playing catch-up, and in a few years it’ll be made irrelevant with the PS5 and Xbox Two (or whatever the heck it’s called) in a couple years, so basically, the later the better. Also, here’s some other issues I have with your points:
-Nintendo working on a new console for a couple of years is normal. They work on the next console almost immediately after one’s already been released.
-They don’t reveal the console the exact same year it’s released. The reveal the system, and THEN they go on ahead and show off the games for it the year following.
-Once again, the whole part about third-parties being shown the system and getting dev kits at those particular points in time are RUMORS. Literally anyone can go on the internet, make something up, and spread it around.
developers will have had 18-24 months on developing a launch title. That is MORE than enough time. When developers take on new hardware, they are not starting from scratch and they are not writing reems and reems of raw code; they are utilising existing engines and Nintendo's development tools. An aspect of Nintendo throughout the Wii U has been their willingness to offer full support in the use of their tools and systems. Launch titles are predominantly re-hashed port's which have a minimal development time. Then you will a handful of exclusives that have had more time with the hardware and been more experimental. These first and third parties will have been involved from an earlier point. There will be games for NX right now, close to being finished.
"Nintendo working on a new console for a couple of years is normal. They work on the next console almost immediately after one’s already been released."
I know, I just told you that.
They have announced the system already. This E3, as I have already said, is what dictates where you can expect the NX launch date. If Nintendo show a static piece of hardware, without the new controller and don't show any software, then you are looking at a 2017 launch. If they show the hardware running in full, it's gonna be 2016. End of.
"-Once again, the whole part about third-parties being shown the system and getting dev kits at those particular points in time are RUMORS."
They did show it, and development list have been distributed, it is not a rumour.
"Literally anyone can go on the internet, make something up, and spread it around"
I am well aware of the definition of a rumour, but thank you for spelling it out, just on the off chance your comment was over my head.
Just wait for E3 and see what happens, everyone will be more informed then, including you and I. What I am saying is that there are a lot of different sources, including Nintendo themselves, that indicate we should not be surprised if we see NX by the end of 2016.
In my opinion, for Nintendo, the NX cannot arrive soon enough.
Yes it is the 30th anniversary of Kid Icarus, Metroid et al, but the thing is that it was their 25th anniversary in 2011 and they did zilch for that.
@NintendoFan64 oh look!
More evidence that I was right.
@DESS-M-8 I assume you're referring to this?
Also, at the risk of sounding incredibly stupid, I would like to point out something: In that article, the NX coming out this year was never specifically stated by CY Lu. He just said that Macronix would be making memory slots for it. This technically doesn't really confirm anything. Also, this wouldn't be more evidence that you're right, but the FIRST actual evidence that you're right, though even then it's not necessarily real evidence. However, I will admit that I have warmed up to the idea, and believe that the NX can release this year... as a handheld. If Macronix is providing memory carts for it, it's probably a handheld. Also, since there is no evidence supporting it, I still don't believe that Zelda U will be ported to it. I know that this is probably going to lead to some more arguing, so can we just drop this?
@NintendoFan64 😞 Sigh,
IF zelda is a launch title with NX it will be a port of the Wii U. The release of a zelda game at the very end of a consoles lifespan almost guarantees a release on the successive hardware. Nintendo did exactly this with twilight princess and are renowned for moving almost finished games to the next console when they are due for completion at the end of the current hardware life: eternal darkness, star fox adventures, zelda twilight princess, banjo kazooie. Just several titles that were all originally developed for the hardware previous to their actual release format.
The NX is pretty much confirmed as being a hybrid system. The Macronix chips will be required in the controller element of the NX. They may release two separate units that are 100% compatible, or one lumped together gaming solution. Either way the handheld/NX controlpad WILL require the Macronix chipsets. If the handheld has rumblings of release this year (50% of he NX design) then the manufacturers of the console unit are either more leak protected and are at the same stage, or will not be far behind.
Either way, these are ALL factors that are constantly tipping the scale for an NX release in 2016. Which is the perfect time to launch it.
@DESS-M-8 Sigh...alright...I'm just going to get this outta the way: I was never denying that a Zelda launch title would be Zelda U. However, we still don't know if this year will be the end of the Wii U's lifespan, so that throws a bit of a wrench into the idea. Also, we don't know if the NX is a handheld or home console, so we don't know whether the Wii U or 3DS will get phased out first. More importantly, the NX isn't pretty much confirmed to be a hybrid system. There is no real evidence. And before you bring up stuff like rumors or patents, those don't work. Rumors are rumors, and Nintendo patents a LOT of stuff that they never use. And I believe that you earlier brought up pre-orders for the system and Zelda on said system, and to that I say this: Yes, because retailers NEVER get something wrong. Finally, since you seem as if you we know everything about the NX, I'm juust going to link you to this:
Also, I don't know where you're getting the idea that the Macronix chips will be used for the controller part. They'd probably be used for game carts, more likely.
@NintendoFan64 I've not mentioned pre orders for anything at any point, I think you're possibly getting confused between a number of different arguments with different people, where everyone is saying you are wrong.
My point is that MORE than 50% is pointing toward what im saying and further away from what you're saying.
Either way, if by Christmas, you're sat playing the best version of zelda Wii u on your amazing and spanking new NX.
Think of me.
Looks like the 50% likelihood just increased in favour of what I was saying earlier this year
@DESS-M-8 …Why did you reply to this? It’s been 3 months. Do you really think I care about this three months later? Do you think that I go to sleep at night telling myself “Hehehe…I’m so right, and everyone else is an idiot!”, and that I need to be put in my place? I don’t. In fact, I forgot about this completely, because it’s been 3 God **** months. Who the Hell cares at this point!? I don’t, and why should you? Is winning this argument really that important to you? We are arguing over a console launch date, and the possibility of a Zelda game being on it! Is this really something getting so worked up over? In fact, why is anyone getting this hung up over this!? I don’t know about you, but I absolutely despise the NX’s hype train, because of how everyone is acting. There are rumors everywhere, and I can guarantee you that most of them are BS. People take analysts’ predictions as facts. People take Nintendo’s words and twist them to form “evidence” for their claims. “Nintendo said it’s a new Zelda game for the Wii U? They’re obviously only saying that because the NX hasn’t been given a real name yet, so they can’t say it’s for that, even thought it’s not a Wii U game, but an NX game!” People keep arguing and insulting eachother over these rumors, acting like spoiled brats! I have been called crazy for not believing the rumors. Oh, yeah! Instead of listening to some random guy on the internet, I’m going to simply wait until Nintendo says something. Clearly I’M the crazy one! Heck, look at your first reply to me. You’ve said that Nintendo stated the NX would come out at the end of this year, and that Zelda NX was happening. I said that Nintendo never once said it would come out this year, and asked why everyone thinks Zelda U would be an NX game. Your response was, and I quote: “OPEN THIS MESSAGE ON25TH DECEMBER 2016. I’m right. You’re wrong. Deal.” WOW. You didn’t even try to make an actual argument. Do you have any idea how immature that sounded? I, just…I’m done. I’m tired of this. I don’t care anymore. If you’re right, you’re right. If you’re wrong, you’re wrong. Nobody cares. I’m done. Do you hear me? I. Am. Done.
Whoa!!!!!!! Calm down. No need to get so upset! Let's have a cuddle.
Was not holding onto anything. I read the article and thought "hmmm, this rings a bell" had to look through my comments to find where I remembered it from. Found your message and thought again, "ahhhhhhh oh yeah!" And it made me laugh and just had to reply.
Made me laugh. Obviously didn't predict how unstable you'd be about though.
Ooooooooooooo gotta hurt.
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