JubilifeRival

Slow down with the apps...

Wait, so according to the Sunken Sea Scrolls, Judd was frozen by his owner or something and survived for thousands of years. So where did Lil Judd come from?

Interesting that they chose the Gen 6 chibi-esque character design route.

I already have a New Zealand account for when I got Pokémon Go a few days before release, so why not.

@BakaKnight I don't know what part of Italy you're from, but I have several friends in Italy who have told me, even before I read this article, that this gesture is extremely offensive.

@Spoony_Tech @shaneoh Do you think it would be okay to have Inkling Girl flip off her opponents in MK?

Cultures exist outside of the US and UK. It's not okay to have such an obscene gesture present in a game with a large audience of children. Unless you think it would be worth it to change the game's rating and keep the gesture in there?

I'm not sure if you fully understand, this gesture is literally the equivalent of giving the middle finger in several major countries that this game is being sold in.

@Equinox "Niche audience of adults" When Minecraft first came out, mainly teenagers and adults played it. The problem is just that children have taken over the fanbase. Don't let the current main audience of the game define the relevance of its content to you.

Seems pretty entertaining. Can the Switch even handle it though?

In my opinion, Nintendo/Dena have done a great job of bringing the games like Marion and FE to a mobile platform so far. I'm excited to see how AC goes.

@RupeeClock I only started playing Splatoon several weeks ago. Could you give me a quick briefing on what these Splatfests are?

@BezBot If you want to get into the main series, I would reccomend starting with Awakening. There's a demo too.

@DiddlyDoneDead If you pause the trailer at the right time, you can see what some people are claiming to be Marie. I'm not sure if it's actually her though.

Not sure how I feel about the game being tied to finding Layton, who has apparently "gone missing."

I hope Level-5 can turn this into a strong game/series independent of previous Layton games.

@BiasedSonyFan

Let's return to my original reply.

I didn't say anything to indicate that I agreed with him.

And what you ended your last reply with.

That list renders @Yasume's statement — and your statement — false.

I think you're assuming my argument is one in the same with Yasume's. While there is overlap, I made it clear from the start that I wasn't necessarily adopting his/her claims for my own.

When you chose to write a long comment arguing against me based on assumptions of what I believed, I decided to address what I saw as the flaws in your logic. That's how this whole thing started.

My reply consisted of two more mainstream media sources that reported high demand of the Switch.

Your reply consisted of two mainstream media sources reporting exactly what Nintendo Life has been reporting. I know that the Switch has sold, and mainstream media sources know that too. I want to see mainstream media sources illustrate that people who visit mainstream media sources are clamoring to buy the Switch. Again, not just the same ~900k people who bought the Wii U.

You realized that, so now you're assuming...

Oh please. Get off your high horse and stop thinking you're inside my mind. Because that is what is leading to the rash assumptions consistently in your replies.

You ask for evidence

Yes I do. Still waiting for anything that actually refutes my argument and advances yours, because all of your evidence thus far is addressing what you incorrectly assume to be my argument.

you get the evidence that you asked for

No, still waiting. But wait, as I said earlier, this is more opinionated than anything. I'll be shocked if you find the evidence I ask for, because my whole point is that you don't have any better evidence than Yasume has.

"you compare it to your subjective assertion (which makes sense, because this is an almost entirely subjective argument, only requiring basic knowledge of the Switch, gamers, and sales), you reject the evidence because it so far is meaningless to this debate."

FTFY.

the gaming market consists of many millions of gamers — so many gamers that Switch hardware sales can be driven by other gamers

I can repeat myself. The mobile gaming market is much less eager to purchase expensive hardware than PS/XB/PC gamers, who spend plenty of money on expensive hardware anyway. The reason why there are millions of "other gamers" is because smart devices are so ubiquitous.

The preschooler who got an iPod Touch for Christmas or the senior citizen who spends money on in-game currency in Candy Crush isn't going to be buying a Switch, nor is the soccer mom with an iPhone 7, etc. These people are who make up your "other gamers."

Can you show that less mobile gamers are willing to spend that much money on a console and video games?

If it helps you sleep at night, this serves a similar purpose. http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-12-12-monetizing-games-crucial-advice-from-key-players

Except you supported a post that claimed this...

See the start of this reply.

You were so nice as to leave that description of what my "cycle" is, so here is your cycle:

You make an assumption about what I believe, attack that assumption with evidence that is irrelevant to my actual claim, give a high-and-mighty statement about the perfection of your points, and then wait for me to try to address your mess of an argument so you can make more assumptions.

@KirbyTheVampire

I have been using this site everyday since September 2013. I am quite familiar with these two users' opinions; however, I don't approve of people stifling their viewpoints before they even open their mouths.

Why are people attacking @Yasume and @SLIGEACH_EIRE before they even say anything? How immature.

@BiasedSonyFan

"you're making up a claim that I never made"

Uh, I never said you claimed anything. You asked for proof that everyone who has bought the Switch is a Nintendo fanboy. My response essentially meant that that was a dumb thing to ask because it's not like you can prove that people who bought the Switch are not just Nintendo fanboys.

"Quote from article: Demand is so high that Nintendo (NTDOF) says it can't ship enough devices to meet it."

Yeah, demand from the same ~900k people who bought a Wii U in the first couple months. I was referring to a lack of demand from a wider audience... which is kind of at the heart of this whole argument so I thought that would be heavily implied.

"I promise you that the number of gamers today is much larger than the number of PS4, Xbox One, and PC gamers."

Remember how we made a distinction between casual gamers and PS/XB/PC gamers? I said that Nintendo needs to win over the PS/XB/PC gamers. We agreed that Nintendo needs the people who play mobile games. But, to "succeed," Nintendo needs to reach those millions of other people, not just mobile "gamers." My original point.

And I promise you that a much smaller fraction of mobile gamers are willing to shovel out $300 dollars+games than the PS/XB/PC gamers who spend more than that anyway every year on video games.

"You're moving the goalposts of course, now that you've seen the software lineup."

Way to make even more assumptions about me. I almost have to laugh at this. Do you think that I wasn't there to watch the Switch unveiling live? The event in January? The Direct last week? Do you think I haven't been watching YouTube videos, reading websites, and visiting Nintendo Life as much as you have?

I know all about the software lineup. You think that quantity is over quality. If you didn't think that, why would you believe that I had any reason to "move the goalposts"? As I stated originally, I don't care how many games there are, if the games aren't actually appealing to a wide group of people. (Not that I don't love my niche games too, but we're talking about what games bring in new people).

"But opinions can also be informed, backed by data, backed by facts, and supported by evidence instead of being rashly expressed."

Take a hint from your own words. Your "evidence" has done nothing for your argument, and I am just as informed as you are. All you've done is "rashly" attempt to address my points while making assumptions and ignoring everything that has been said previously.

@BiasedSonyFan No, I didn't say anything to indicate that I agreed with him. My point is that NLife readers consistently dismiss anyone who isn't blindly optimistic. There is a very prominent "no dissent" attitude here.

Thank you for at least taking the time to refute his/her points. Because most of the time, a bunch of people just reply "this guy is a downer," "god forbid anyone like the Switch," etc.

That being said, it's not exactly like you have a lot of evidence to support your claim either.

"Can you prove that everyone who has a Switch is a "Nintendo fanboy"?"

Not any better than you can prove that a significant number of people with Switches AREN'T Nintendo fanboys.

"Can you explain why demand for the Switch is still high"

Yeah, I'm sure the demand sounds very high in the comments sections of NLife and Nintendo Switch YouTube videos. But I'm not exactly seeing a clamor for them in my personal life or on more mainstream media sources.

"The Switch doesn't need to appeal to those gamers to succeed."

Define "succeed." If success is selling a very large number of units, than this very well might be necessary. Millions of people own PS4s and XB1s. That's millions of potential costumers, and the Switch could benefit a lot from winning them over. Unless your definition of "success" is "doing pretty well" or "breaking even."

"You don't have to like those games"

Sure I don't. But because I don't like those games, I haven't bought a Switch yet. And because other people don't like those games, other people won't be buying Switches either.

You could have 150 games coming out on the Switch this year. It doesn't matter if those 150 games appeal to very small or specific audiences.

Although, Mario Odyssey is and will be an exception to this... assuming it makes the Holiday season. Which I think it will.

"Surely it's the side that has zero evidence to support their claims, correct?"

Posting one link to a website didn't exactly do much to bolster your argument. This is mostly an opinionated discussion anyway. Everyone has different predictions and expectations for the Switch.

There is no one "side" posting blind comments. Your comment wasn't "blind," and my comment wasn't "blind." It's the people who reply to Yasume saying "hurr durr stop raining on our parade the Switch will be gr8" who have blind optimism.

@Yasume Only blindly optimistic comments are allowed on NLife! Get out of this comments section with your differing opinion; dissent is not welcome here.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE I visit My Nintendo so rarely that I didn't even notice my points were expiring. That's a plain infuriating move on Nintendo's part.

@patbacknitro18 I'm waiting for your logical, coherent counterargument. You wanted time to write, and I gave you two days.

@Yorumi
And you have illustrated how most conservatives put partisanship and generalizations above logical arguments. You've also shown the complete ignorance of the right to the reality of race in America.

"Simply put that is a racist statement"

Racist: a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.

Racist is quite the loaded term, so I would appreciate if you would clearly explain how what I said warrants calling me that. Unlike me, Jon made discriminatory comments. I just said that we should work towards giving people of color an actual voice, rather than drowning them out with people (probably like you) who would call the Black Lives Matter movement "racist."

I'm white. I want my voice to be heard. However, if I went to a Black Lives Matter rally, it would be inappropriate for me to take the reigns of the event and assume that I'm fully qualified to speak on the behalf of the people who are actually suffering from discrimination. Don't get me wrong, I would want to lend my support to the cause. But speaking priority should not be given to me.

"One of the people in the running for the head of the DNC in america(the head of the leftist party)"

...Oh God. Here we go.

I'm not a Democrat. And there is no one "leftist party." There are many left-leaning parties, but not a singular leftist party.

I'm not sure why you decided to attack the history of "my party" (it's not actually my party) rather than attacking my argument. Well, I guess I do know why.

It's because you're letting partisanship overrule a logical, objective approach to addressing racial issues in the U.S.

I'm not a young child, as you can probably tell. I understand the history of politics in America. I understand that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. I understand that Democrats existed almost entirely in the post-Reconstruction, racist South for many years.

However, I also understand that parties evolve. The Democratic party is literally nothing like it was 150 years ago, just like the Republican party is nothing like it was 150 years ago. If you want to play the "your party was racist game," Republicans literally abandoned Southern blacks from 1877 onwards, and did almost nothing even before 1877.

Please understand that I'm not attacking your argument by attacking the Republican party. I don't even know if you are a Republican. I'm showing you the absurdity of spending an entire paragraph ignoring my assertions and attacking the history of a party.

"leftist bullies"

How immature. I never called you playground insults. I speak for myself, so don't lump me in with these "bullies" you so vigorously believe in.

@patbacknitro18 A strawman isn't a person, it's a kind of logical fallacy. Lol.
Also idek what the rest of what you said is. I'm sure I already refuted or dismissed it.
Goodnight

Okay, well, I'm going to bed now and I'm responding. Although, there is plenty left to respond to.

I'm starting to feel that I have no faith in humanity.

@patbacknitro18 Okay, I mean I would hope you can think of your own opinions as I can. But I can give you some time. Remember, you're responding to my original comment (although you can take a crack at the others).

@patbacknitro18 Uh, please stop with the logical fallacies.

Saying the opinion of minorities should be given priority does not contradict my statement that your voice matters.

"And what if my voice of the topic was helping the other races. Should my voice be any less important then?"

Don't worry, minorities can speak up for themselves. You'll be fine.

"I get that with such topics as race they are the more important subject matter, and they should have a louder voice."

Thanks for agreeing with me? Do you know what you're even arguing against?

"nothing I say matters"

Strawman.

@patbacknitro18 Oh, and I'm still waiting for you to present a counterargument to me. Here is my comment as a reminder:

"Take each of my points one by one and refute them with logical arguments. Oh, and remember, no logical fallacies."

(It's okay, I know you ignored it because you have no good response. Ignorance doesn't build arguments off of logic.)

@snintendog Cute. Well, I'm not going to waste any more time typing to a person who starts off by labeling me a liar.

@patbacknitro18 If people aren't listening to you because you're a white male, that's their fault. Although, priority should be given to minorities when voicing opinions on racial issues, as they're the ones actually suffering the discrimination.

@snintendog Punctuation is nice. You should try it.

Also, no, the comments were not taken out of context. I'm not sure about PewDiePie, but Jon's comments are very straightforward.

@shaneoh "A person is also more inclined to care about incidents in countries comprised largely of a similar ethnicicty."

Absolutely not true. We hear far more about racial issues in America, but take a look at some homogenous Eastern European countries, Middle Eastern countries, African countries, etc.

There are a lot of countries with almost no diversity, and the minorities that are persecuted there are never mentioned.

"What minorities being persecuted?," you may ask? Exactly.

@patbacknitro18 Oh no, please argue with me. Take each of my points one by one and refute them with logical arguments. Oh, and remember, no logical fallacies! You seem to be a fan of those in your other comments.

@patbacknitro18 What are you arguing in your comment is called a strawman. No one claimed your opinions were less valid than the opinions of minorities, and no one cares that you're a white male.

If you're going to speak about something as controversial as this, at least think about the words you're typing out.

@AlternateButtons "The liberal agenda"? What a joke. You don't have to be liberal to, ya know, not want to support a blatant racist.

So if he is "going against the status quo," that means you must define the status quo as being tolerant to other races/ethnicities. That status quo sounds pretty respectable to me.

You praise him for daring to have "an opposing viewpoint"? Well, most people don't give much credit to someone with a racist viewpoint, believe it or not. I'm not sure if you admire the KKK for having an opposing viewpoint or what, but that's very backwards.

After typing all of this, I can only imagine that for you to say what you said, you don't even know the comments he made. Google it. It was bad, and yes, it was racist.

@BensonUii Exactly. I haven't spent a cent and I have seven 5* heroes, from summoning at least 15 times (probably more, as I've completed almost every story map). And then there's 5* heroes that I have from Hero Feathers and Badges.

There's no need to buy orbs, unless you're not willing to actually play the game.

They're doing a phenomenal job of adding new content to the game. I never find mobile games engaging enough, but I'm still playing Heroes everyday since release.

@timson72 There is a difference between the United States of America and America. NoA could have their headquarters in Canada, Brazil, etc.

@westman98 Did I accidentally make a Back to the Future reference?

@JaxonH While that's true, you could always just rehardwire the giga compactor through the hypnotonic calibration system to easily reduce sapphire jiggawatts in the manual generator.

@ogo79 Oh my, you raise a very good point. I wonder if the bioflow could be recalibrated through the utilization of pentagonal reactor cylinders, though?

@CoolDoolio All in a day's work.

I'm surprised that the integrated hydra core isn't adjacent to the hyperfraulic magnesium generator in the Joy-Con. I thought that was the only way that the vibrafuels could trigger the HD rumble effectively.

@ProjectCafe You said that you resented the bittering agent on the game card. That definitely implies that you would prefer that there was no bittering agent. So my comment was in response to your implication (whether you intended to imply that or not).

@ProjectCafe
I know, right?! I would much rather have a kid or two die from choking, or have people who have sunk hundreds of hours into a game lose their card to a dog, than to have to worry about wiping down my preowned Switch game with a tissue!

@Ralizah I need to finish Majora's Mask! The time limit just stresses me out a lot. I know that you can slow time down but somehow I still end up feeling rushed.

@Mega_Yarn_Poochy You're basically saying that people who don't like the Switch should not contribute to discussion on this website.

Expressing an unpopular, but valid, opinion is not "trolling."

There are people on NLife who love the Switch, and there are people (albeit not many) on here who don't love the Switch. You can't speak for the entire website ("us") as if you represent the opinions of the community.

@Mega_Yarn_Poochy For me, definitely less than a day. I overestimated my New 3DS XL's sleep mode capabilities one time and left it closed up overnight.

I wake up 8 hours later and it's dead, and it started on a full battery.

Wow, I can't believe it's been over a year since that great 20 year anniversary... good times.

Meh, I'll be skipping this one.

@InternetBowser I mean, the best entry would be for you to try the Awakening demo on the eshop, and then if you like the game buy it.

A mobile app isn't really the right introduction to any series.