Nintendo of America has released a press release regarding their March sales of the Nintendo Switch as well as The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. The Nintendo Switch sold more than 906,000 units in March, compared to the Wii U launch period during which only 890,000 units were sold in North America even after 41 days on the market.
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild has also sold well, being not only the fastest-selling Nintendo launch title of all time, but also the fastest-selling game in The Legend of Zelda franchise.
Nintendo of America also highlights several notable upcoming games: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, ARMS and Splatoon 2, all to be released before the end of July. With consistent major releases on the horizon, the demand for the Nintendo Switch may only increase as time goes on.
Nintendo Switch, the new home gaming system that people can also take on the go, has sold faster in its launch month than any other video game system in Nintendo history. The Nintendo Switch system sold more than 906,000 units in March, according to the NPD Group, which tracks video game sales in the United States. That makes Nintendo Switch one of the fastest-selling video game systems of all time. Notably, this sales surge was accomplished in a nontraditional month for a console launch.
The Nintendo Switch system sold more than 906,000 units in March, according to the NPD Group, which tracks video game sales in the United States.
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild game sold over 1.3 million units*. That total includes more than 925,000 units sold for Nintendo Switch and nearly 460,000 units sold for the Wii U console. That means that Nintendo sold more of this game for Nintendo Switch than it sold Nintendo Switch systems, for an attach rate of more than 100 percent. This may be attributed to people who purchased both a limited edition of the game to collect and a second version to play.
This was all enough to make The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild the fastest-selling Nintendo launch game of all time, as well as the fastest-selling game ever in The Legend of Zelda series.
"Nintendo always strives to offer consumers something fun, new and different," said Reggie Fils-Aime, Nintendo of America's President and COO. "With its various play modes and the innovative features of the Joy-Con controllers, Nintendo Switch provides unique experiences that people can take with them anywhere and share with anyone."
While Nintendo Switch sales are off to a record-breaking start, shipments have not yet been able to keep up with such high demand. Nintendo is working to make sure everyone who wants a system is able to buy one, and more systems are continually being shipped. In just over two weeks, the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe game will launch for Nintendo Switch on April 28 with more content than any other Mario Kart game in series history, including 48 racing tracks, new Battle modes, new characters and other additions. Competition on Nintendo Switch gets even hotter heading into summer, with the release of the ARMS game on June 16 and the Splatoon 2 game on July 21.
A full accounting of worldwide Nintendo Switch sales, as well as other financial information, will be provided on April 27, when Nintendo issues its fiscal-year earnings release. For more information, keep an eye on Nintendo's investor relations page.
*Data regarding physical sales of games are from the NPD Group. Data regarding digital downloads of games and combined physical/digital life-to-date numbers are from Nintendo's internal sales figures. All numbers, unless otherwise stated, are specific to the United States only.
What do you think of the Nintendo Switch's fast success, and how do you think it can improve in the future? Let us know in the comments!
Nintendo fans rejoice!!!
Lovin' my Switch, and it sounds like many, many other people do as well! I'm incredibly excited for Nintendo's future!
Switch sales - 905,000
Breath of the Wild Switch sales - 925,000
Breath of the Wild has more than an
100% attach rate in the States. Surely it's the only game in history to achieve that?
Very happy for Nintendo.
Cannot believe that BotW attach rate. It is arguably the best Zelda ever made.
Hopefully momentum will continue with Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, but as it's only a remake, it might not sell as well as Zelda despite being the more popular of the two.
Switch has so many potentials. I believe in it's success.
It is actually my first ever launch week Nintendo console purchase.
the future does seem promising for NS.
I love my Switch!
It's great to hear that, especially since demand is still insanely high. It's hard to tell since it's only been out for a short time, but if Nintendo can keep this momentum going, then I feel good about the Switch's future!
Hope it keeps the momentum.
But I seriously think Nintendo should now start to improve on how it treats it's fans (see the 'discontinued nes mini despite fans wanting more)
To think if they had produced more consoles for March it could have been at least double that.
Excellent. An over 100% attach rate for Zelda is incredible.
Switch March Debut: 906K
Wii U November Debut: 425K
Wii U Holiday Total: 885K
3DS March Debut: 398K
3DS March + April Total: 592K
3DS First 5 Month Total: 922K
Wii November Debut: 476K
Wii Holiday Total: 1080K
DS November Debut: 479K
DS Holiday Total: 1225K
Looking beyond Nintendo, the PS4 and Xbox One are the only two platforms in US history with better launch month sales than the Switch.
What will be interesting is how much the Switch sells in April and (especially) May. The Wii sold around 470,000 in its 3rd month (January 2007), which foreshadowed its overwhelming popularity in the years to come. On the other hand, the Wii U sold around 57,000 in its 3rd month (January 2013), which foreshadowed its overwhelming failure in the years to come
Why don't they simply give us the worldwide numbers and paint the whole picture? Yes US numbers are nice and interesting, but surely the total worldwide sales are much more important, and more importantly, higher. :/
Still, amazing sales! :]
With 925,000 copies sold in a month, Zelda BOTW on the Switch has sold faster than any Wii U game (Mario Kart 8 sold around 860,000 copies in May/June 2014, and Smash Bros sold around 710,000 copies in November 2014). This should put the "Zelda is not a system seller" myth to rest.
BOTW has also sold faster than any 3DS game outside of Mario Kart 7, Smash Bros for 3DS, and the 3 main Pokémon games (X/Y, OR/AS, Sun/Moon)
This doesn't mean squat. The system has been purchased by all Nintendo fanboys now. The real challenge lies in the upcoming months, because they have to attract the casual crowd and gamers who play on other platforms. Looking at the droughts and upcoming games this year, I'm conviced that they can't make that happen. Ergo sales will plummet.
Even looking at the "worst" case scenario, there are FAR more than 900,000 Nintendo "fanboys" in the US.
@CB85 Because the sales in Europe are ass. I can back that up with the fact that it's available since day 1 over here. Pretty much every game store has it in stock. Have been hearing the same from other Europeans.
They are already discounting the system in Russia for example.
Not sure what your talking about, given that the Switch is Nintendo's fastest selling console in Europe. In a few territories like France and Spain, the Switch was the fastest selling console ever.
Nintendo doesn't even have a market presence in Russia lolz. The Russian console market is irrelevant anyways.
NPD US sales data for the entire month of March was made available today, so NoA will report sales. That's not the case for Europe.
I still can't find one. But I'll wait till it has some more features of a tablet and a virtual console. Still hoping for GameCube games on switch.
I just want the Nintendo Switch virtual console to exist sooner rather than later!
Congrats Nintendo. Iwata is watching over you.
Keep up the great work.
Fantastic results for a fantastic console. Keep it coming Nintendo. I know we just had an info dump but anyone else MORE excited for E3?
Plus shiny new 3d Mario this holiday season? I might as well as unplug my other systems now. Stop wasting electricity.
Why is Yasume here? (Honest question)
Can't wait for someone to spin this as ummm bad....... umm.
Looks like the.....negative.....
I can't even make a clever comment for this.
This. Is. Bonkers.
@GrailUK Because she/he love the Switch but can't afford one.
@Yasume Does Happiness, joy, surprise, elation, optomism, or wonder exist in your robotic data banks?
Good news, it's lovely hardware to use and Zelda is truly brilliant.
Got to keep momentum up now. The next few months look good but beyond that E3 needs to be huge in terms of first party stuff. Don't pull any punches. Third-party games would be a bonus but aren't going to make or break the machine, it's Nintendo that needs to drive sales.
'Increasing Desperation' is tangible in his posts. Does that count?
@Yasume while I agree that Nintendos challenge to keep the ball rolling may be difficult, I have personally met multiple people that said the Switch is their first Nintendo system since the Wii. My mother wants to buy a switch and play Zelda. The last system she bought was the Wii. She thought the Wii U was a game like Wii Fit, "just different somehow" (Exact quote) A lot of the super causals dont even know the Wii U was a thing. When I was in line to buy my Switch, there was a 40 something man that was genuinely excited to purchase his first video game console since the PS1.
I agree that their current line up of games will not look appetizing to a lot of people though. But the people who bought a Wii U have most likely already bought a Switch, so these ports coming out will attract people who have yet to play them. Im not saying that the Switch will achieve Wii like sales numbers. But there is definitely a buzz, and its off to a great start.
TLDR. Valid points, but Switch good!
Congrats to Nintendo and the Switch and Zelda. Keep it up!
Now, let me try to make a bad joke. I hope that even though Nintendo sees there is demand for this console they don't discontinue it like they did the NES Mini.
Yeah, that was pretty bad... I'll show myself out.
I'm sure we can find a negative in here somewhere. 😄
So is it faster than like Usain Bolt? Will we see it at the next Olympics? They are in Japan and we've had several Mario & Sonic games afterall. Oh.....selling.
@Fandabidozi And if by magic...
Good for Nintendo, I hope they can keep up momentum. The holiday season will be the most interesting.
I'm very curious what the global a sales are.
I can only speak for Sweden, but over here it's sold out everywhere in the major cities. It caught me off guard tbh, I'm not used to having to actively look around for a system.
@Yasume You're just lying now. It's been sold out in Belgium since the end of march and isn't getting a restock until april 21. Keep trolling.
I even just looked at the sites of mediamarkt and gamemania in the Netherlands and they say they're sold out both online and in stores, so where is your proof that it isn't sold out? The only thing plummeting is your credibility.
@CB85 It's only US numbers because this is about NDP, which only covers North America. Wait until the investors meeting on april 28 for worldwide numbers.
Whilst I don't usually agree with the views of @Yasume I do feel he has a point in this case.
Yes the sales numbers are impressive but they are only marginally better than the Wii U sales in its first month and we all know what happened next with that.
In the main, the majority of sales so far will be from the nintendo diehards so the real challenge is to see if they can keep those numbers going as the months roll on.
I think it's a given that it will outsell the wii u but it's too early to get too excited just yet, if the sales are still just as good in 12 months time then I think the doom and gloomers will have to admit defeat and concede they were wrong .
The one thing I would say is that it's done brilliantly well considering its launched in March rather than the traditional holiday period when a new console would usually launch which bodes well for the future I believe
April - Mario Kart
May - Minecraft, Street Fighter, Disgaea
June - Arms
July - Splatoon 2
That should be enough to tide buyers over till the end of July, the interesting bit is going to be August to November because we don't have anything down for that period until Mario Odyssey drops in December. Fifa if it arrives for the new season, FE Warriors and Skyrim could plug that gap hopefully
@Yasume Netherlands reporting here, sold out.
You probably shouldn't state something's a fact, when you don't really have proof.
That said, initial sales can't predict the future in that sense I agree with you.
@Morph The fall seems like the best time to release a port of Bayonetta 2 or Smash 4.
I love how despite having a disparity of over 10 million hardware units against it, Zelda on Switch sold over twice as many copies than the WiiU version.
Hopefully the Switch keeps going well, and Nintendo and 3rd party devs pull their heads out of an uncomfortable place and keep it on the right track.
My prediction for the coming year,Switch sales will continue to fly in the face of @Yasume dire predictions.Then after several months of increasingly desperate comments on the subject he eventually comes round and by E3 2018 will be fully aboard the hype train.
@Captain_Toad Don't worry, Yasume will be jumping for joy when the the April NPD numbers come in and the Switch experiences a natural drop in sales.
Super news. Definitely gonna keep feet on the ground though.
Remember Wii U
Nov '12: 425K
Dec '12: 463K
Jan '13: 57K <- sharp sales collapse
Feb '13: 66K
Mar '13: 68K
Apr '13: 37K
May '13: 33K
I personally don't see this happening with the switch. It will be a success no doubt.
So, I'd like to share my personal experience and why I am 100% confident Switch will be a major success. And it has nothing to do with the sales numbers (although you can't discount outselling the Wii U by more than twice as much for first month, and even outselling in one month what Wii U did over the entire holiday period).
I have a coworker that was buying a PS4. He's a big Skyrim fan and wanted to play it. Hadn't owned a console in many years. He heard about Switch and Skyrim, and cancelled his order in favor of a Switch preorder because it was also portable, and he wanted his favorite game playable anywhere. He hadn't even seen Zelda yet. When he told me this I showed him the Zelda trailer and he was twice as excited after that. After playing it he said it's right up there next to Skyrim.
Then I was playing Zelda at work, and the plant supervisor walked in and started asking me about it. Said he was looking to buy one, which is strange because this guy does not really play video games at all. On top of that, the North plant manager was asking about it and how much it cost too.
Yesterday, my coworker in the lab told me he wants one. Asked me to find him one online and he'd give me the money up front. He doesn't really play much video games- he does have a PS4, but rarely plays it. He liked that Fast RMX and Zelda. We played together in multiplayer in tabletop mode for Fast, and he watches me play Zelda at shift change every day for 20 min or so.
While we were playing together, a process engineer walked in and he started watching us play, then was asking about it like how much it cost and how good the graphics were compared to Wii (I told him see for yourself- you're looking right at it lol; yes it's miles beyond the Wii, not quite as good as PS4 or Xbox but, it's only like 7" wide by a quarter inch thick, and it's portable). On top of that, I can name at least five other people who have asked me about it after seeing it. Genuine, actual interest type asking, like "how much is it and where can I get one".
The interest in this thing is overwhelming. I haven't seen this many people interested in a console in at least 10 years. You could look at those sales numbers and say well, we don't know anything for sure yet (although again, this thing in March has outdone what Wii U did in November and December combined... over Christmas time). But just seeing how many people in the normal world are aware of this system and actually interested in it and buying it- I'll have 3 coworkers who own this thing a month after launch... I can only name one coworker who even knew what a Wii U was after 5 years... much less own one. And the more people who buy one, the more units will be showcased in everyday life. If 5 people end up buying one who saw mine ( and what's really cool is all of them had heard of the system before seeing it), and each of those 5 people contribute to 5 more seeing it in action and buying one, it's going to be like word-of-mouth on steroids. Sight of eyes, really. It's like everyone who sees Switch, wants a Switch.
I know it's sold out in many countries but I've said it before, the Switch is most definitely not sold out in Ireland.
@roboshort I'm expecting a Smash 4 announcement at E3, but I think it'll be more involved than the Mario Kart port, maybe with a new subspace emissary mode? I'm not sure how many more fighters or stages they could really include though, it's already to the point of overkill.
August - Skyrim
September - Fifa 18
October - Fire Emblem Warriors
November - Smash 4
December - Mario Odyssey
@SLIGEACH_EIRE the neon ones just appeared back stock in uk so managed pick one up but grey one impossible find. Just need 5 minutes peace to play it
@kobashi100 Yeah, it is hard to make predictions based on the sales figures from the first two months alone because that is when the core fans buy the console. But looking at the software lineup and general interest among people there things should give us reason to believe in the Switch.
@Marios-love-child It didn't sell "marginally better" than Wii U. It sold substantially better. The Wii U sold 425k in its launch month and 463k in december, which is a total of 888k for 2 months.
Comparing this to the switch, which sold 906k in its launch month alone, how is that "marginally better"? And we aren't even talking about holiday numbers here, while the Wii U launched just before the holidays, just in time for Black Friday and Christmas.
@Morph That sounds about right, though Smash 4 will probably not get ported if 5 is scheduled for next year.
I'm just waiting for the monster hunter game and whatever retro is working on!
@Yasume The sales of Switch in Europe are not "ass" as you put it.
The article states 906,000 for the switch and 890,000 for the wii u, that's what I was basing it on when I said marginally. In my defence the article doesn't make what you said very clear about the 2 month thing
BTW you're preaching to the converted, I own a switch and I love it, my ps4 simply hasn't had a look in since 3rd March.
Outstanding. Now Nintendo NEEDS consoles out there because Mario Kart will be a smash hit. Who can resist to fire up a play with it in portable mode or tabletop with friends? Even if already published on the Wii U that one is gonna sell in the millions. Nintendo need console out there. Now.
I'm really enjoying this news! Of course there are doubts around this console - it's a entirely new type of device as far as the mass market is concerned. On top of that it's coming after a rather sad looking (and in plenty of cases unknown) flop for nintendo. So the awareness around them as a contemporary console power needed a serious shot in the arm.
What @JaxonH said is really exciting because it's how I hope this system is going to go. I think Nintendo have developed something really smart and inventive - not only with the switch but their wider strategy around it. It seems to me that they have developed their wider audience / casual gamer Wii strategy: Now a wider audience, given the opportunities to play where and when they want and a wide variety of engaging game experiences, can simply be gamers.
Zelda isn't just a great game to play, it's visual style evokes a story playing out on the screen. It's tapping into a broader adventure romance that goes way beyond video games. I think that title was made to open up the idea of what 'proper / hardcore gaming' can be and who can enjoy it.
And I have absolutely no doubt about the mass market appeal of Mario Kart. Nintendo know how powerful and broad the appeal of that game is. Delux looks knockout as a game and the marketing around it is big and brash and full of colour. There are an awful lot of people who haven't played it and I think it will be a huge boost for the Switch.
I agree with @Tetsuro - the only thing that will slow them down between now and the Autumn is stock shortage.
P.s - Mario Christmas
@Marios-love-child I was just wondering what you meant with marginally beter and that maybe you were just confused or got wrong information somewhere.
Sorry if it seemed like I was attacking you or something, that definitely wasn't my intent.
No worries dude.
As I say I love my switch and I've only heard positive things in general from the general public. In fact between typing these messages on my phone I'm currently sat with a tray on my bed playing lego city in tabletop mode... . . You know just because I can
I am just slightly cautious as the wii u sales were decent to begin with then fell off a cliff once the diehards had all bought one. I don't think the switch is heading the same way but it's far too early to make any real predictions just yet
I know I am very stubborn, but I find this very hard to believe.
good for them. maybe it'll fast track the switch xl and/or switch 4k. since we're pipe-dreaming, switch with super-steady 3d.
@Yasume Loolllllllllllllll like clockwork. Here it is buddy, very easy to find on Google: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-switch-is-nintendos-fastest-selling-conso/1100-6448486/
And as others have said before, you're even ignorant of what happens in your own country, so best to be informed before trolling for the millionth time.
@Yasume thats incorrect. The Switch hasn't been available in the Netherlands for quite some time. I haven't seen it in the wild (bart smit, intertoys, game mania en Mediamarkt) yet. Neither do these stores know when they can fullfill their preorderd or get new shipments. Just go inside the Mediamarkt now, which is arguably the biggest game shop, and she the pathetic small amount of available Switch accessories and empty console shelves... heck game mania doesn't even know when they get consoles again.
Here in the United States, we can be woefully ignorant of other countries. Sometimes you would think all we know about Ireland are the potato blight, the legend of St Patrick, and U2.
..But Americans are not yet aware of the latest big news from the Emerald Isle, the great Switch blight of 2017! I heard there are switches everywhere in Ireland, stacks of them rotting in the streets...piles of Nintendo Switches so high they block out the Sun and threaten to choke out crops. There are reports of great waves of Nintendo Switches burying entire communities and blocking major highways impeding trade and food distribution across the Island. In fact, I've heard they had to contract out across Europe for the heavy military and construction equipment necessary to start removing the massive piles of overstocked Nintendo Switches as the number of Irish residents simply buried under the endless mountains of Nintendo Switches becomes a humanitarian crisis.
In one instance, an Irish civic official said that they needed to use a helicopter just to see the tops of the giant piles of leftover switches that threaten to overwhelm the entire Island nation.
Switch solds for Nintendo fans only ?!
I have some of my students show their interest to buy Switch, even they NEVER buy any Nintendo machines before. And luckily, two of my students already got it, enjoy it and their friends also show some enthusiast.
Guess what ? Casual gamers slowly show their interest. And you still keep IGNORANCE with your Pathetic Comments.
Just believe it.
Nintendo's Magic is start working.
Switch will gonna be a Viral.
@Marios-love-child Yeah, you're right, it's definitely to soon to say if the switch will really be a succes, but the early signs look great. It's best to wait until after the holidays to make any real conclusions (because, as you said, it can go either way from here out). There does seem to be a lot of good buzz from the public though, so I would be suprised if it sold less than the GameCube.
Hopefully it sells well, because it's a very interesting console with a lot of potential. Especially being able to play it anywhere is awesome so it would be cool if it gets good support from both Nintendo and third parties. We'll just have to wait and see, I guess. Happy gaming!
It's no doubt good news. I think the battle is still ahead of them, though. There needs to be big games. A Pokemon announcement alone could really kickstart interest in the system.
Give it 6 months of shelf life, then I think we'll have a much better idea of if it's a Wii or a Wii U situation we're facing.
What happens with Wii U sales on January 2013 ?
@Anti-Matter Wii U sales cratered and never recovered.
@Moon This chimes with how I feel.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Its because we're like a condensed UK market , in that we aren't Nintendo centric fans and tend to have bad tastes in video games :/ Though still far better sales and I hear a lot more word of mouth than the Wii U did. So there's that !
It's so popular Nintendo has just announced that they'll be discontinuing it next month.
Well I finally ordered a Switch last night too. 260€ on Amazon Warehouse Deals was just too good to resist.
@Action51 LMAO You should hop on a plane and buy one. They're everywhere. Just replace the drink talk and bottles with Switch's.
These numbers should be if ignored because ... (insert negative comment about Nintendo fans, Zelda being the only good game, it hasn't sold out in one particular country, dock scratching, joycon issues, third party support, brexit and trump).
I'm going to rebox my Switch and leave it in the shed till I get an apology from Nintendo itself for the past 7 years!
Just a side note it's getting harder and harder to be negative about the Switch.
I'm still waiting for a job to get a Switch, but I'm ever so glad to see the console doing well. Skipping launch will hopefully allow me to skip the usual early adoption hell that comes with it as well, which sadly this time around involves drought and peripherals-and-battery-related shenanigans.
Trust me, my Xbox-loving doppelganger of a friend isn't having any trouble doing just that. And with bending, dock pricing, docks not charging the console and the console not charging the Joy-Cons... hoo boy, he has a field day whenever he's talking about the console.
@Joeapple I still haven't seen a single Switch ad on TV. And I haven't heard a single one of my friends or family talk about it either. If anything, I think the level of interest is lower than Wii U and that was bad.
There are some good/great Switch games right now. Ignored the issues, Blah blah blah about Trump or Brexit or whatever. There are still so many gamers out there teally enjoy Switch. Trust me, You will regret when you boxed your Switch while Switch' momentum keep going and become a Viral.
One thing about the games. Zelda Breath of the Wild is NOT just only worthy game. Do you mean games like Super Bomberman R, Lego City Undercover, Puyo Puyo Tetris, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, NEO GEO games, etc are NOT Worthy ?
Please... loosen your expectation a bit.
@JaxonH I have a similar experience at Work. Co-workers who love to play Nba 2k, Madden, and Smash Bros. They also love playing good adventure games and went nuts seeing and demo playing BOTW on my switch. They are hooked and want to buy a Switch asap.
Needless to say Word of Mouth and sharing the system helps Nintendo out.
Plenty of people want this system where I'm from. Again as I've been saying it's up to Nintendo to keep up stock especially with MK8 coming out in 2 weeks where everyone and their grandma are gonna want it.
Just because Switch advertising never aired on your country it doesn't mean Switch will gonna flop, People will Never knew at all.
Look at my country Indonesia. There will NEVER EVER EXIST any Nintendo commercial, But... Some people in my country already knew and has some interest with Nintendo machines especially Switch. Even some of my students know about Switch despite NO Switch commercial At All.
So don't use that circumstances as a Scape Goat of Nintendo's Failure. Why don't you just introduce yourself about Switch to your family / friends / relatives / new friends if you Really Really LOVE Nintendo ?
Family Guy creator Seth McFarlane is apparently Irish American, and he loves to poke at the Irish even more than he does at most:
Family Guy Video: Ireland
It's better than I expected. Can they keep up momentum? Nintendo still nerds to have a good E3.
Nintendo should add Color variation for Switch to boost the sales because not everyone adore Black color , especially me who adore White or Aqua or Indigo or Silver color. Color variation will give some Options for customers to mix and match their machines. Well, I think Nintendo will eventually give some color options in the future. I will wait and see.
You're from the US too I see.
The USA is gonna make Switch a slamming success. I'm sure it'll do well in Japan too. It'll probably even do well in all of EU aside from the Nintendo hating British Isles, but the USA is clearly in love with the Switch. And given it's Nintendo's largest market, the ticket to success lies here. Then Japan. The rest of the world will follow.
And right now it's catching fire in the US... fast.
Looks like the marketing paid off for Nintendo.
I'm very optimistic about the Switch's future. From concept to execution, this machine captures the imagination. While the price point is definitely a barrier to entry, the intrigue surrounding the system's potential will certainly keep it relevant. Everyone I've shown my Switch to is incredibly impressed. While that certainly doesn't always translate to a sale, it will probably only take one or two big games (Pokemon? Monster Hunter?) to tip the monetary scales in Nintendo's favor.
@Yasume bugger off you miserable git.
It didn't have to sell many in most country's in Europe to break records, take Spain for example it only sold 40k opening weekend to break records, Greece sold 2 thousand to break records for opening weekend. I ain't bashing switch sales and its flying off shelves, rightly so, just pointing out that Ninty don't have a stranglehold in Europe. USA and Japan will see the biggest sales of switch, that's not saying it won't do OK in EU because it will do more than ppl will expect in the face of the stronghold Sony has in Europe,
Lol, now now good chap:)
@NintySnesMan I know I know... but flippen heck, what is their problem?!? Lol you're right though, I apologise @Yasume
Peeps, seems like a certain troll is getting a fair bit of encouragement in the form of replies and raised heckles. But isn't that the point for them?
Trolls can simply be ignored.
Or - if we want to talk about something they're saying - then don't refer to them directly. Make it about the broader topic they raise. After all it is good to consider an opposite position and have something to push back against. Use it as a jumping off point for more interesting chat.
Just my 2 pence.
@GrailUK I just hitted that "ignore" buttom and he's not here anymore for me.
@Marios-love-child Don't pay too much attention to that guy. Numbers for Switch are way better than Wii U. And the buzz around it is even more. You said it yourself, all of this was achieved in march. When the Switch is 12 months old, trolls like that guy will still say it is too early to be happy.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE The lack of TV ad is certainly true , but the word of mouth not so true from my experience, I don't remember anyone other than my one fellow Nintendo fan friend speak of the Wii u at launch , but even my dad knows about the switch and he hasn't played a console since the n64 , I've even seen people in college play their switches, with it gathering attention.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE: Believe it or not, I actually saw Switches on store shelves near where I live. There were even special editions (GASP) of BotW as well
Maybe I just live in the weird part of the US
@Yasume doh, you're never impress.
glad see Switch doing so well here, hoping this continued though out other months.
A promising sign for sure. Still though, the real test will be if it can maintain itself with only an old version of Mario Kart, Minecraft and Monopoly supporting it for nearly 3 months.
I'm beginning to think certain commenters only post the way they do because it's the most effective way of getting people to talk to them.
I mean, look how many mentions they're getting! Meanwhile all the posts that don't read like an excerpt from Marvin the Paranoid Android's autobiography aren't getting nearly as much engagement.
Maybe there should be a new 'hug' button for the site...
Lol! A lot of us could certainly use a hug button right about now, especially since Nintendo screwed nearly all of us over with the NES Classic debacle.
Amazing news. Super happy to have read this. Great way to bounce back from the abysmal (yet underrated) Wii U. Hopefully Ninty's next console doesn't continue the successful-unsuccessful pattern that they've had since the N64.
@JaxonH "And right now it's catching fire in the US... fast."
From the ashes of the Wii U, the Switch catches fire.
@Yasume Still trying to find a Switch in Portugal. First time a Nintendo console sells out in a market dominated by Sony. Even PSP and Vita were extremely popular here. And it's Nintendo's best launch here too. I know people who never bought a Nintendo system and already have a Switch.
@Maxz You can ignore them, that feature is available for a while now. I already did that with the biggest troll around a few weeks ago, can't see what he posts anymore and the comments section is way less anoying. You should try it.
Switch has been sold out in the UK since launch. I ordered on Amazon as soon as Zelda reviews came out and received mine 10 days ago. No luck getting a second one for my son yet though. I'm a PS gamer mainly and always have been and will remain so. I have never owned a Nintendo before nor really wanted to. But the switch is a great second device and having never played Zelda before it may be the best game I have ever played and i'm 45 and started gaming on a zx81. I'm hoping it keeps getting indy support mostly as AAA are covered on PS4. I did put 200 hours into Skyrim and I can not wait to restart that adventure.. on my 1.5 hour each way train to work and back each day. I think this is going to sell as well to ps4/xbox1/pc gamers as Nintendo fans and that should mean a great long term catalogue.
Nintendo is back, baby! I just PRAY that they can stay on top of this stock problem.
@AlexSora89 Your XBOX buddy has something to say about hardware?! ...I've gone through 8, count them 8, 360s! And can you ask him what games there are to play on the Xbone that aren't multiplats or halo or forza (I like gears so I won't throw that under the bus)? Serious question because I'm ready to kick mine down some stairs just so it can get some "play time"...
MS really really dropped the ball this gen. They need to go back to trying to beg for Japanese favor, because at least then they were willing to bank roll exclusives.
@Maxz True, batting away trolls does derail honest conversations here a lot.
@Yasume I have to say this is the first time I think I've ever seen someone try to use Russia as a barometer for the overall success of a consumer electronics (or, hell, any) product*--you doomsayers have really upped your game in Bizarro world.
*There's a pretty good reason for this, which I'm sure you are aware (hint: Russians freaking out over paying USD prices for video games is a good place to start like they've had boiling water throw in in their faces, which is a regular occurrence on Steam).
@Yasume bingo. Many NDFers will flame you though. Get that Goron armor ready!!
I really hope Aunoma, his team, and the extra help from Monolith devs are rewarded properly for their hard work. Not only did they create the highest rated Zelda, they helped the Switch have a successful launch.
@GrailUK Trying to give Slug Erie or what ever a run for his money.
My Switch is broken. I have to send it to Nintendo but I've been lazy since I beat Zelda.
First Nintendo hardware I've had so many issues with. Hopefully it gets better as table top mode has changed my life
Welcome to Kingdom of Nintendo.
You will be satisfied by diversity of Nintendo games.
Handheld ? Try New 3DS XL.
Console ? Try Nintendo Wii.
Both Console & Handheld ? Try Nintendo Switch.
Try to put Nintendo as your Primary console, like I did as a Nintendo gamer.
Good for Nintendo! I'm very very happy with my Switch and Breath of the Wild! Amazing console and amazing game!
Oh... what happen to your Switch ?
Dropped or Death Blue Screen ?
Hopefully you will get the replacement.
Also not yet convinced. I kinda like it but i also like nintendo.
@Yasume lol comment was pointless nintendo is back In the game.like it or not its the SNES over again which is what Nintendo needed.
@Anti-Matter didn't they just announce yellow joycons during the direct?
Switch is Reborn as a PhoeniX !
Nintendoomed, huh pessimistic Nintendo "fans"? 😂 I'm stoked about this! I have a good feeling they're gonna bring out some big guns at E3 this year as well, so those numbers are about to go higher. Congrats Nintendo!
@roboshort what I just can't understand is how the negative Nancy's on this site only consider the wiiu in terms of switch sales potential. It's like 3ds owners are not true Nintendo fans or something.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE I see them all the time even when I watch YouTube ads kick in lol also all over facebook
Neon Yellow kinda funky, but I really really want to see White color of Switch. White color of front and backside its body + White docker + White cables (if possible ). My New 3DS XL + Wii + NDS Lite are Pure White color, except my Wii U is Black one (Ugh....) and my older 3DS XL (Pink x White). One more thing, my LED TV SHARP 32 inch for my Nintendo machines is also White color (Eh... except the backside is still Black, though). I'm kinda obsessed with White color when talking about electronic gadgets.
(My Smartphone Vivo V3 is also White too )
@Yasume Only blindly optimistic comments are allowed on NLife! Get out of this comments section with your differing opinion; dissent is not welcome here.
@NintySnesMan and 105,000 in France plus 80,000 in the UK (these are opening week sales, not all of March). We still don't know about other big markets like Germany or Italy. My guess is something between 400-500,000 across the EU. We'll officially know in 2 weeks though
I wonder if having the launch month away from the holiday period was a stroke of genius?
You get launch month sakes and holiday sales - does having your launch month at the holiday period cannibalise sales?
Thanks for the numbers breakdown. It will indeed be interesting to see how the next three months play out. In the long run, I don't see the Switch being as successful as the Wii but it will outsell the Wii U by miles. Still say it ends up between 3DS and original Wii numbers.
@Yasume I highly doubt there will be significant droughts. I don't know, of course, (And neither will you until after E3) but the fact that they're released ARMS and Splatoon 2 in such quick succession (ARMS in June, Splatoon 2 in July) seems to indicate that there will be other games on the horizon this year, IMO anyway.
Either way, please ditch the attitude that you know the entire first year lineup, cause you don't. If it turns out E3 sucks, then you can continue to whine in every single Switch article.
Yep good numbers for Europe and this will probably stay like this for a while yet, EU probably sold more than Japan to begin with and good on it. Eventualy I see Japan switch sales take over switch sales in EU once pokemon, MH, Youkai Watch release and USA as usual always sells more than EU, but yeah a great start for EU. It's difficult to predict lifetime sales but 40-60 million would be great, the Switch has a great future. There are many doom comments on every articles, some of it constructive and some just malicious for no reasoning but this won't stop ppl buying it, I have no interest in the switch, but that could change if certain games are announced like metroid prime, advance wars, Battalion Wars, 1080 or waverace, kid icarus, luigi's mansion plus others but certainly not interested in Nintendo platformers , MK, Splatoon etc I have on wii u
@BiasedSonyFan That's true, but Yasume seems to ignore everything that isn't a Nintendo game.
How is what I said ridiculous, exactly?
That's so crazy because many people are going to get it for the holiday and some people can't find stock.
@BiasedSonyFan No, I didn't say anything to indicate that I agreed with him. My point is that NLife readers consistently dismiss anyone who isn't blindly optimistic. There is a very prominent "no dissent" attitude here.
Thank you for at least taking the time to refute his/her points. Because most of the time, a bunch of people just reply "this guy is a downer," "god forbid anyone like the Switch," etc.
That being said, it's not exactly like you have a lot of evidence to support your claim either.
"Can you prove that everyone who has a Switch is a "Nintendo fanboy"?"
Not any better than you can prove that a significant number of people with Switches AREN'T Nintendo fanboys.
"Can you explain why demand for the Switch is still high"
Yeah, I'm sure the demand sounds very high in the comments sections of NLife and Nintendo Switch YouTube videos. But I'm not exactly seeing a clamor for them in my personal life or on more mainstream media sources.
"The Switch doesn't need to appeal to those gamers to succeed."
Define "succeed." If success is selling a very large number of units, than this very well might be necessary. Millions of people own PS4s and XB1s. That's millions of potential costumers, and the Switch could benefit a lot from winning them over. Unless your definition of "success" is "doing pretty well" or "breaking even."
"You don't have to like those games"
Sure I don't. But because I don't like those games, I haven't bought a Switch yet. And because other people don't like those games, other people won't be buying Switches either.
You could have 150 games coming out on the Switch this year. It doesn't matter if those 150 games appeal to very small or specific audiences.
Although, Mario Odyssey is and will be an exception to this... assuming it makes the Holiday season. Which I think it will.
"Surely it's the side that has zero evidence to support their claims, correct?"
Posting one link to a website didn't exactly do much to bolster your argument. This is mostly an opinionated discussion anyway. Everyone has different predictions and expectations for the Switch.
There is no one "side" posting blind comments. Your comment wasn't "blind," and my comment wasn't "blind." It's the people who reply to Yasume saying "hurr durr stop raining on our parade the Switch will be gr8" who have blind optimism.
People are just looking for something Nintendo related to celebrate but compared to the Wii U during the holiday season, there isn't much difference. Did you know that the fastest selling Final Fantasy game was 13? The one everyone hates. Fastest selling means nothing.
To all those people who doubted that NINTENDO Switch success . TOLD YOU SO!😎
@Gamer83 I doubt any single console will again touch Wii/DS/PS2 numbers. The X360 and PS3 did pretty well because they were supported for so long, but now with mobile, tablets, and PC gaming...I highly doubt consoles will ever regain those numbers unless new markets open up that change the dynamic.
So based on the numbers we know by the end of March:
USA: 906,000 => NA: >1 million
Europe: >330,000 during launch weekend
Nintendo Switch sell-through by the end of March was likely somewhere around 2.3 million units. Nintendo likely shipped around 2.5 million units, given how supply constrained the console is.
@BiasedSonyFan I'm not condoning anything. I simply can't force him to not make those comments. Even me saying "then you can continue to whine in every single Switch article" is ridiculous, because of course I'm not stopping him from whining right now. If he wants to be illogical and childish, who am I to stop him? I'm not a Nazi, and I don't have that kind of control even if I was.
And to be fair, E3 doesn't have to be super amazing, but if it isn't at least good, I think some criticism would be justified. If they can't manage at least a good E3 now, when they basically ceased Wii U game production for quite a while in order to make Switch games, and especially considering this could be their last hurrah in the console market if the Switch fails, then that's just sad.
@JubilifeRival Besides @BiasedSonyFan 's excellent response, I'd add this. When there's "negative" articles about the Switch (as in, game x is not coming to it, game y will cost more, etc), people like Yasume are the first to cheer and dance, prophesying its failure and proclaiming "I told you so", even if nobody actually cares about game x or y. When there's good news, backed by actual data, not Yasume's imagination cuckoo land, he's also here to provide (false, as proven) data, and making inaccurate statements like "it doesn't mean squat." We get it, some of you don't like it, and that's fine. But repeating it a thousand times in every single article will only make people who are perfectly content attack you, as we see happening. Some people enjoy it, and they have every right to do so, along with those who criticize it, when the criticism is not the same thing over and over again.
Who said launching a console in March is a bad idea? I feel like I'm falling behind the times. I really don't want a Switch but I'm glad it's doing so well. This is the first Nintendo console 'ever' that I don't want.
I'm getting old.
Um... should we ban the negative user like that ?
Why don't want Switch ?
Switch will gonna crazy awesome.
Beside, your avatar represent Nintendo's Mascot, right ?
Let's have some fun with Switch.
FF 13 sold fast, but BLAH...
Switch sold fast too and WOW...!
@DBailey Is that the best attach rate for a video game in history?
I believe mainly because they were holding back all these years and by holding back i mean only releasing 1 or 2 major titles a year.
Just hit block. I did and I never see those dumb posts anymore! He or she is not worth your time.
@Anti-Matter No, I don't think banning helps anyone. You can however choose to ignore a user by default, so that's an option
Excellent news for Nintendo. I want the Switch to do well, and so far Nintendo's efforts into it seem to have not been in vain. If they can keep up their marketing and keep the games coming, I can see the Switch being counted among "successful" systems.
@Order2Chaos I concur, next shipment at my local Nedgame is slated for 30-06-2017, selling like bacon-infused cheese breads.
@Anti-Matter I don't follow.
The fastest selling Nintendo system in history and some losers on here are still talking Nintendo nonsense. SMH.
So disappointed in all of you. Not one has
@Agent721 It's because fastest selling doesn't mean anything. Sales could drop off like they did with the Wii U due to a software drought.
"you're making up a claim that I never made"
Uh, I never said you claimed anything. You asked for proof that everyone who has bought the Switch is a Nintendo fanboy. My response essentially meant that that was a dumb thing to ask because it's not like you can prove that people who bought the Switch are not just Nintendo fanboys.
"Quote from article: Demand is so high that Nintendo (NTDOF) says it can't ship enough devices to meet it."
Yeah, demand from the same ~900k people who bought a Wii U in the first couple months. I was referring to a lack of demand from a wider audience... which is kind of at the heart of this whole argument so I thought that would be heavily implied.
"I promise you that the number of gamers today is much larger than the number of PS4, Xbox One, and PC gamers."
Remember how we made a distinction between casual gamers and PS/XB/PC gamers? I said that Nintendo needs to win over the PS/XB/PC gamers. We agreed that Nintendo needs the people who play mobile games. But, to "succeed," Nintendo needs to reach those millions of other people, not just mobile "gamers." My original point.
And I promise you that a much smaller fraction of mobile gamers are willing to shovel out $300 dollars+games than the PS/XB/PC gamers who spend more than that anyway every year on video games.
"You're moving the goalposts of course, now that you've seen the software lineup."
Way to make even more assumptions about me. I almost have to laugh at this. Do you think that I wasn't there to watch the Switch unveiling live? The event in January? The Direct last week? Do you think I haven't been watching YouTube videos, reading websites, and visiting Nintendo Life as much as you have?
I know all about the software lineup. You think that quantity is over quality. If you didn't think that, why would you believe that I had any reason to "move the goalposts"? As I stated originally, I don't care how many games there are, if the games aren't actually appealing to a wide group of people. (Not that I don't love my niche games too, but we're talking about what games bring in new people).
"But opinions can also be informed, backed by data, backed by facts, and supported by evidence instead of being rashly expressed."
Take a hint from your own words. Your "evidence" has done nothing for your argument, and I am just as informed as you are. All you've done is "rashly" attempt to address my points while making assumptions and ignoring everything that has been said previously.
This is great news for Nintendo and its fans, to be sure, since it appears that initial interest in the Switch appears to be robust. That said, it would be overreaching to claim that, based on preliminary data, it is already more popular than, say, Wii, or even N64. For one, neither of those systems had the same first-month supply that Switch has had; secondly, as has been pointed out by a few others here, it's the long game that counts. Does the system have mileage? I hope so, but the proof of that remains to be seen.
PS4 is doing pretty well, and that's with terrible numbers in Japan (I believe it might only just be getting close to 5 mil there now). I agree, no console will reach Wii or PS2 or PS1 numbers again but PS4 should do 80 mil lifetime and I wouldn't be shocked at all if Switch ends up in the 70 mil to 80 mil range.
@BiasedSonyFan I should have clarified my statement. I was basically agreeing with the following:
"The real challenge lies in the upcoming months, because they have to attract the casual crowd and gamers who play on other platforms."
It's interesting (and concerning), I keep asking the folks I continue to discover I know with Switches, "what are you playing currently?" They all, no matter who I ping, either say Zelda or they've moved onto things like P5 or games otherwise not on the Switch.
While this hot start is great for Nintendo, they need need NEED to capitalize on it more than they are. I said it last gen and I'll say it again this gen: Nintendo cannot be sustainably successful relying on their 1st party offerings and a few indies here and there. As much as people around here hate to hear this: western AAA 3rd party support is the key to sustainable success in today's dedicated console gaming industry. Either via timed exclusives or having the most superior version of said 3rd party content.
Nintendo filled a big hole with the Switch. I always wanted something like this, a Home console that i can take with me. I wanted that with the WiiU. I liked the concept but it wasnt what i wanted. With the Switch its different it has everything i want from a hybrid console.
So yeah if nintendo keeps this up and distance itself from sony and microsoft. Just go the Nintendo road, quality games/gameplay.
Nintendo has a great library to work with, so many great games amd system sellers, so its time to bring them all to the Switch. We know that Pokemon games like on the 3DS are big sellers, so it would be wise to get them on board.
Also Everyone is screaming for a new Metroid Prime with a great online multiplayer. And not to forget a new Smashbros, they dont need a new Engine and start from scratch, just use the WiiU smash engine and add alot of new content new characters, moves, levels, and a storymode (if sakurai cant do it let Bandai work on it)
Also keep adding DLC for Zelda to keep the storymode alive.
What else? Third party games, FPS, RPG, MMO games etc.
So to keep the Hypetrain and sales Nintendo cant go lazy now they have to go all out, and reveal more new stuff, do more marketing, go full with the E3, and steel the show with lots of great reveals. Just an awesome Trailer from a new smashbros will steal the show lol.
I always wanted something like this, a Home console that i can take with me
To me it seems like it would be no different than a Vita, 3DS or iPad and while I enjoy playing on dedicated handhelds (not so much a tablet) I can't see how the 'home console' part is really that different from playing on the handhelds you are already used to or how it's a game changer. If the 'I can take it with me' is a big thing for you, I don't see how online multiplayer can also be as you can't do that without a good wifi access point. No some Taco Bell poopy access point, a good one.
@BiasedSonyFan I didn't say the lineup so far wasn't good, but a few extra games to fill in the gaps in the first year and a few games for next year would still be nice. All I'm saying is that if Nintendo can't achieve that, then some disappointment on people like Yasume's part would be understandable. As it is though, his attitude that Nintendo has already failed is really jumping the gun.
The Wii U majorly hurt Nintendo's name in the eyes of many gamers, and to the general public, they largely dropped off the radar. The 3DS carried them through it, but they still can't afford another failed console. So I would say this years E3 is very important for Nintendo in order to solidify their place in the hardware market once again.
And I'm not saying E3 itself is that big of a deal when it comes to selling systems, seeing as pretty much only hardcore gamers watch E3, but it will give us an idea of how successful they could be with the Switch. You can dismiss E3 as relatively insignificant, and in a way it is since pretty much only hardcore gamers even watch E3, but a lot of people would be a lot more confident in the Switch if they came into E3 with announcements about a new Metroid, Pokemon Stars, a Smash port etc etc. E3 won't necessarily make or break the Switch, but if it turns out to be good, it will certainly help a lot, if only because it would confirm that the lineup is better than it already is.
@Yasume I don't really see any "droughts". The Switch is getting at least one major release a month. You can spin these games and say they don't count for whatever reason all you want. As far as Nintendo is concerned, they count.
The Wii U majorly hurt Nintendo's name in the eyes of many gamers, and to the general public, they largely dropped off the radar. I am going to say that Final Fantasy 8 hurt the sales of Final Fantasy 9. In other words, I think it was the Wii that hurt Wii U sales and the Nintendo brand in general. It sold lots and then it collected dust in many homes. The casual crowd who picked up Wii because they loved Wii Sports were never going to stick around for the next console or even the entire Wii generation. Many gamers felt that Nintendo was going in a direction that they weren't interested in and while Wii U was a step back to traditional controls, the damage had been done. Honestly, I expect many Switch's to be gathering dust in a year or two as well.
@Crono1973 That's true. I don't think they'll gather dust, though. There's no real reason to buy a Switch unless you plan on playing "hardcore" games like Mario Odyssey or Breath of the Wild or Splatoon 2, whereas with the Wii, all the soccer moms and grandparents got roped in just to play Wii Sports. The type of gamer to buy a Switch is likely in it for the long haul, for the most part anyway.
Nintendo generally has moved away from the Wii brand and is focusing on games rather than gimmicks.
@Crono1973 - I'm still trying to figure out what was wrong or "bad" about the Wii U itself that these know-nothing casuals apparently had all figured out.
Was the marketing blundered? - Yes, but I think adding more were the gaming media actively working to sabotage and undermine any positivity for that misunderstood console.
I'm a PC gamer, and to me, the Wii U simply had all the sorts of games either missing or poorly represented on PC and the other consoles - and to be blunt, I'm just not a fan of multiplayer military shooters in the first place.
@Action51 Yeah, I love my Wii U and the thing I find the most humorous are the people who say they never bought a Wii U and then beg for Wii U ports. If there were enough interest in Wii U games to justify buying a Switch and then begging for ports then there was enough interest to justify buying a Wii U. Let's not forget, Breath of the Wild is a ported Wii U game too.
@Crono1973 - I've gone back to Xenoblade Chronicles X, and that would have been lauded as an amazing and ambitious exclusive on any other console - but on Wii U it was plagued first by people screaming about scantily clad teenage girls, then screaming about "censorship" because they put the teenage girl in more modest apparel.
Oh yeah, and they removed the most important feature of all...a bust slider!
@Crono1973 The difference is that the Switch is portable and the Wii U is not. It works for me in that I can wait a year and miss little due to the initial games mostly being Wii U ports. The only thing that might ruin my plans is that my right analog stick on the gamepad is starting to behave wonky.
Superdata believes the Switch has sold 2.4 million units worldwide during the March 2017.
@Darknyht The difference is that the Switch is portable and the Wii U is not. The 3DS is portable, the Vita is portable, the iPad is portable...need I go on?
What makes a portable home console different from a dedicated handheld? You don't get that 'console experience' without a television so what is it that makes this portable somehow a game changer and all the other portables (with console game ports) lesser?
Nintendo needs to make or release some triple A game soon that have a M rating that's good enough to make people buy more systems
Yesterday I met with a friend who switched companies. He surprised me by saying he had bought a switch...
I asked him why, and he had played Zelda on someone else's Switch, and he wanted to play more.
This is his first Nintendo console and his first Zelda game.
The portable nature means the console and games are going to be exposed to a lot more people... Even more so with the dual controllers etc
@Action51 The WiiU had three issues in my opinion. Poor marketing, which I feel is the most egregious. I firmly stand by the thought that if the WiiU had a marketing campaign similar to the Wii or the Switch then half of their issues would have been avoided. People didn't know what it was or why they should be interested in it. I feel they had a strong E3 leading up to the launch but that still doesn't reach the mainstream or status gamer (gamers that buy based upon what they hear is cool or what is perceived as "adult"). While Sony had a TERRIBLE launch lineup and a higher price and yet people were falling all over themselves to buy it. I had three coworkers that preordered the 4 and none of them could list games that they wanted or that were coming out. Just that it was playstation and it was going to be cool...(...o...kaaay...)
Power PC. I see this as a double edged sword. If they had gone x86 then BC and possibly VC would have gone out the window. Wiiu is the best multisystem value...that nobody knows about. However the price is that devs that don't want to optimize their games had an easy excuse not to port..because its too hard/expensive. If they had gone x86 the gaming community woud have still roasted them because they couldn't play 30 year old games...
The last in my opinion is battery life. This versatile system became shackled to the ac adapter. I have a couch with an outlet in it and that was my solution. Yet everyone else I knew that had wiiu systems always complained about the battery life.
The rest I don't really fault Nintendo for. I think they kept the system as affordable as possible to be able to still make a profit, I think they gave consumers options with the HDD space (I just tossed a 128 GB flash drive on mine and I've been fine), Region lock was expected (THANK YOU SWITCH), Nintendo gave pretty strong first party support. They may not have released every game that everyone wanted and a few games were "safe" but they still maintained some of the highest dev output year after year (except for the tail end of last year but that makes sense as they were transitioning to the switch). I'm not going to vilify Nintendo for the 3rd party support because quite frankly a few companies took their ball and went home and others gave lukewarm support but expected a huge cash windfall from consumers. Others didn't even bother to show up. There are too many options on the market to deal with that. Nintendo benefited from that as a dev I think (wiiu had high software attach rates)....just not so much as a hardware producer.
The WiiU was a fantastic system and I still think they had a novel idea with the asymmetrical gameplay and I still think they had a clearer message (of what the console could do and who it was for) than Sony or MS, but that doesn't grab attention like Greatness Awaits or whatever the catch slogan of the year is. Gamepad is still the most comfortable controller I've ever used though.
@Crono1973 Multiplayer handheld is a game changer I would say.
Sorry, Western 3rd party is not the best of all. I would rather stick on Japanese 3rd party like SquareEnix, Capcom, Level-5, Syn Sophia, Konami, etc rather than Western 3rd party. Japanese developers has more interesting games for me than Western developers, so you can't say people just only need Western 3rd party games to be cool or to be called a gamer. Not everyone interested so much with Western 3rd party games.
@Ryu_Niiyama I think personally the Wii U just simply got 'trumped' by the other two consoles. In hindsight two screens didn't really offer enough of a differentiated proposition to conventional gaming to sacrifice so much graphical fidelity. The Wii's motion controls were so kooky that they captured peoples imaginations. The Switch's portability is liberating. As much as I would love all controllers to have a small touch screen for inventory etc (and NOT for multi-tasking Star Fox nonsense) it just wasn't enough to sacrifice performance I guess.
@GrailUK Multiplayer handheld is a game changer I would say. Lan play?
@Crono1973 That's 2 devices. Thought you were comparing like for like. My bad! (Gah, You are a negative Nancy.)
I think that's the same reason why all of Nintendo's handhelds have been successful in the past; they are taken outside of the home and are thus exposed to outside world for other people to notice and observe.
That's the best kind of marketing: when people see the product in action in the real world.
You need to add "...in North America" to the title.
Sigh, the English-speaking internet really is just for Americans.
@GrailUK I am pretty confused but I am guessing that you are not talking about a Lan party. You must mean online multiplayer. Here's the thing, you aren't going to put your handheld to much use tied to a wifi connection. Did you know that you can also play online with the 3DS and Vita and a tablet and a smartphone? Yeah, online multiplayer on a handheld is not a game changer.
I am negative because Nintendo and even you Switch lovers can't tell me what makes the Switch any different that any other handheld device. It's like getting excited because McDonalds introduced a new burger with the same ingredients as most other burgers, this one just has a special arrangement of condiments.
Oh, may I ask something ?
Little question. Off topic.
Since you are a PC gamer, do you think playing PC games on Laptop is a good idea ?
I mean from durability aspect.
The games that I want to play are The Sims 3 & The Sims 4 + All Expansion Packs. I heard some Laptop that can handle those heavy specs games and the games can run smoothly on Laptop like ASUS/ LENOVO/ DELL/ HP etc. But i'm afraid it also sacrifice the Laptop's life span due to run a heavy specs games frequently. If you think PC gaming by Laptop is another great idea, please let me know which Laptop manufacture that can play The Sims 3 & The Sims 4 smoothly but of course with affordable price. I'm planning to buy a Laptop with price between US$ 250 - 300.
@Crono1973 I just meant 2 people using a joy con each is all. You are sat in Macdonalds and you get a Switch out, pass your mate a joycon and play an arcade game 2-player. It has the ability to be 2 player outta the box. I don't know another handheld that can do that (apart from a really old Donkey Kong LCD game from the 80s).
@GrailUK Never seen anyone play it in public much less 2 people in tabletop mode.
@RainbowGazelle Here's hoping NoE will bother to show how well the Switch is doing over here eh? But yes, I do notice that some Americans have a tendency (now don't go berserk on me for this, merely stating what I perceive and have noticed) to forget the existence of the rest of the world.
@Crono1973 I have. Does that mean our anecdotal experiences cancel each other out?
@RainbowGazelle it's clear you haven't properly read the headline. Context clues are important.
@faint Do you believe it's a feature most Switch owners use or is it one of those 'I bought a New 3DS for the 2 extra shoulder buttons and the analog nub' things?
@Crono1973 yes I do.
@faint So how many people have you seen using it in 2 player tabletop mode in public?
@Crono1973 considering there is only about 2,000,000 sold globally right now.... 2 other than myself. One at a coffee shop and one at a train station. I also bring mine everywhere. I imagine by the time we get to the holidays you will have seen a few out and about unless you are a homebody or live somewhere rural. I live in New Orleans which is a pretty big city.
@Crono1973 on a side note....
The guy at the coffee shop was playing Zelda but stated he picked up a switch for Mario Kart 8 and never owned a wiiu.
@GrailUK How so? WiiU beat both to market. And both had terrible launch line ups. Games didn't sell the Twins. Hype did. Motion controls were pushed to the back as a selling point with the Wiiu given the focus on the gamepad (it had gyro but it wasn't overly advertised and only a few games used it anyway). And the wii accessories, while compatible weren't included in box, meaning they weren't the product focus. If they had all come out at the same time and people went the other way because of what was under the hood then sure I'd agree. However that wasn't what happened. People didn't know what it was, 3rd parties didn't show up, and the controller was dismissed. That happened before the Twins hit the market.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Have you seen no ads? I was surprised to see one on a break in the middle of Fair City. I never would have imagined seeing BotW marketed in the middle of that soapy tripe.
@faint So 2 people, 3 including yourself. If that's most Switch owners then only 5 have sold in your area.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Well there are a lot of switch ads on youtube.
Let's return to my original reply.
I didn't say anything to indicate that I agreed with him.
And what you ended your last reply with.
That list renders @Yasume's statement — and your statement — false.
I think you're assuming my argument is one in the same with Yasume's. While there is overlap, I made it clear from the start that I wasn't necessarily adopting his/her claims for my own.
When you chose to write a long comment arguing against me based on assumptions of what I believed, I decided to address what I saw as the flaws in your logic. That's how this whole thing started.
My reply consisted of two more mainstream media sources that reported high demand of the Switch.
Your reply consisted of two mainstream media sources reporting exactly what Nintendo Life has been reporting. I know that the Switch has sold, and mainstream media sources know that too. I want to see mainstream media sources illustrate that people who visit mainstream media sources are clamoring to buy the Switch. Again, not just the same ~900k people who bought the Wii U.
You realized that, so now you're assuming...
Oh please. Get off your high horse and stop thinking you're inside my mind. Because that is what is leading to the rash assumptions consistently in your replies.
You ask for evidence
Yes I do. Still waiting for anything that actually refutes my argument and advances yours, because all of your evidence thus far is addressing what you incorrectly assume to be my argument.
you get the evidence that you asked for
No, still waiting. But wait, as I said earlier, this is more opinionated than anything. I'll be shocked if you find the evidence I ask for, because my whole point is that you don't have any better evidence than Yasume has.
"you compare it to your subjective assertion (which makes sense, because this is an almost entirely subjective argument, only requiring basic knowledge of the Switch, gamers, and sales), you reject the evidence because it so far is meaningless to this debate."
the gaming market consists of many millions of gamers — so many gamers that Switch hardware sales can be driven by other gamers
I can repeat myself. The mobile gaming market is much less eager to purchase expensive hardware than PS/XB/PC gamers, who spend plenty of money on expensive hardware anyway. The reason why there are millions of "other gamers" is because smart devices are so ubiquitous.
The preschooler who got an iPod Touch for Christmas or the senior citizen who spends money on in-game currency in Candy Crush isn't going to be buying a Switch, nor is the soccer mom with an iPhone 7, etc. These people are who make up your "other gamers."
Can you show that less mobile gamers are willing to spend that much money on a console and video games?
If it helps you sleep at night, this serves a similar purpose. http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-12-12-monetizing-games-crucial-advice-from-key-players
Except you supported a post that claimed this...
See the start of this reply.
You were so nice as to leave that description of what my "cycle" is, so here is your cycle:
You make an assumption about what I believe, attack that assumption with evidence that is irrelevant to my actual claim, give a high-and-mighty statement about the perfection of your points, and then wait for me to try to address your mess of an argument so you can make more assumptions.
@Crono1973 what the heck are you talking about? New Orleans has a population about half a million. My area? You are also confusing beliefs with numbers and facts. You asked if I believe and I said yes. That clearly means five right? Go somewhere else with your semantics and trying to draw others into arguments. The only reason I commented to you in the first place was to point out how silly it is to use anecdotal evidence as fact and now you are trying to use my anecdotal evidence in an argument to prove some kind of fact on your end.
@faint You believe that most Switch owners use the 2 player tabletop feature but you have no reason to believe that as you don't even have anecdotal evidence. I could say that I believe that most people who eat at McDonalds buy the Double Quarter Pounder with Cheese, minus the pickles and I would have exactly as much evidence to back me up as you do.
@Crono1973 do you understand what belief means? I do believe most switch users who aren't homeboys will use it as soon as more multi player games exist. It's not a fact just something I believe. Wait till Mario Kart eh. I believe I said to you earlier that you would start seeing them out and about by the holidays right?
@Crono1973 you also have no evidence to the contrary then right? That's what your McDonald's analogy proves anyway.
@faint Evidence to the contrary is what I asked you for and you said you had seen it 2 times. Then I asked if you believed that MOST Switch owners used the 2 Player Tabletop feature and you said yes. How could you believe that which you have no evidence of?
I think Nintendo's problem is they want to sell hardware because it's profitable for them, and they want to only sell big software games. Nintendo seems like they are big enough to make enough games to fill out a schedule, but they have never wanted to be the schedule filler. They want to have the 3-4 big hits on the console in a year. I'm still amazed they don't have more for year 1 after not making games for the Wii U for basically 2 years. Zelda was delayed forever and is an amazing game which allows most people to give Nintendo a pass for year 1. But take away Zelda we have a port (MK8), Arms (looks decent but looks lacking in content), Splatoon 2 (which may have enough stuff to consider a new game but uses many assets from the first game), 1-2 Switch (light party game), and Mario (which does look good). Take away Zelda and I think that's worse then their releases for any of the 1st year release schedule for the Wii U. It makes me think they just don't get it. Games are why people buy systems.
The Wii U was 41 days compared to 28 days for the Switch since Wii U launched near the end of November compared to the Switch launching at the beginning of March. 6 weeks to 4 weeks would be the comparison. I think it's also important to point out that the Wii U flew through 900,000 consoles before it slowed and that's the point the Switch is at now. I think the second quarter will paint the picture if the Switch is a success or not. All we know now is it's good it didn't do worse than the Wii U because it would be really screwed since the Switch had Zelda (a much better launch title then the Wii U had) and Nintendo has done a lot better marketing the Switch (Super Bowl Ad, Jimmy Fallon) than they did with the Wii U. If Switch did worse with Zelda we'd know there would be no hope for a Nintendo console.
@Crono1973 a lot of people believe in god right? I know that if people are using the system and do not have/want to buy a second controller and want to play with another in public that's what they will use. Yes I believe people will play MARIO kart in public. Yes I believe people will play street fighter in public. I think you just want to argue for the sake of arguing and it's really annoying. Can you give me a solid reason why two people in public with a switch wouldn't play a co op game if they wanted too?
@faint a lot of people believe in god right? So your belief is based on faith. Got it.
Can you give me a solid reason why two people in public with a switch wouldn't play a co op game if they wanted too?
I don't understand why you asked this question. I just don't think most people WANT to.
@Crono1973 no not faith. Are you even reading what I am writing? Read the top one bro
@Crono1973 so you believe most won't want to and I believe most will want to provided they are social and not at home all the time. We both have confidence in our opinions in so much that we BELIEVE THEM
@faint We both have confidence in our opinions in so much that we BELIEVE THEM My opinion is backed by the fact that most Switch owners aren't currently using it in tabletop (or at all) in public. This is even backed by your anecdotal evidence. Your opinion is based on wishful thinking.
@Crono1973 tell me about all the big multi player games on the switch right now. I'll wait.
@faint What were those people playing in the 2 instances you've witnessed?
@Anti-Matter - Well, I haven't had a laptop in a while, but my old laptop from around 2008 struggled a little with the SIMS 2.
A modern laptop should be able to handle the Sims 3 and 4, but you'll need one with a dedicated video card if you want to run it with nice resolution and framerate, as well as future proofing it so it won't be terrible going forward. Go with at least the equivalent of an Nvidea Gforce 700 series (900 series is the current standard and more powerful than XB1/PS4) or better, and 4 to 8 GB Ram.
Expect to pay around $600-700(US) retail normally, but searching for sales can get you something -much- cheaper. Keep in mind a desktop system will be cheaper if you intend to mostly play at home and have an HDMI ready TV or Monitor.
My setup is the traditional Desktop tower with HDMI output to my HDTV, and I swap inputs between that, blu-ray, and Wii U using one remote.
From the STEAM store, these are the requirements for SIMS3
OS: Windows XP (Service Pack 2) or Windows Vista (Service Pack 1)
Processor: (XP) 2.0 GHz P4 processor or equivalent; (Vista) 2.4 GHz P4 processor or equivalent
Memory: (XP) 1 GB; (Vista) 1.5 GB
Graphics: 128 MB Video Card with support for Pixel Shader 2.0
Hard Drive: At least 6.5 GB of hard drive space with at least 1 GB additional space for custom content
Intel Integrated Chipset, GMA X3000 or above.
2.6 GHz Pentium D CPU, or 1.8 GHz Core 2 Duo, or equivalent
0.5 GB additional RAM
Supported Video Cards:Nvidia GeForce series: FX5900 or greater, G100, GT 120, GT 130, GTS 150, GTS 250, GTX 260, GTX 275, GTX 280, GTX 285, GTX 295; ATI Radeon™ series: ATI Radeon 9500 series of greater, X300, X600, X700, X800, X850, X1300, X1600, X1800, X1900, X1950, 2400, 2600, 2900, 3450, 3650, 3850, 3870, 4850, 4870 series or greater; Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA): GMA 3-Series, GMA 4-Series
Please note that the GeForce 6100 and 7100 cards are not supported
So it looks like you could get away with a slightly cheaper laptop, but I would invest the extra cash for a solid one, or wait for a really good sale...just because the difference in performance, load times, etc will improve your life going forward, lol.
@Ryu_Niiyama Fair point (although I saw third parties showing up and then doing one when the numbers stagnated!)
@Ryu_Niiyama - Thanks for your input.
I can't say I have a lot to add or disagree with there.
I think the Wii U's biggest problems were 1: Marketing like you mentioned, and 2: Completely hostile gaming media on a feeding frenzy of negativity.
Think about this: Game journalists are always claiming it's their job - no duty - to get out there and get the facts to the consumers...but for the Wii U, they wrote more articles about how confusing it is, and how consumers were confused than they ever did actually explaining or clarifying. It was like a self-sustaining misinformation feedback loop that really impacted consumer confidence.
The third party situation was unfortunate, but also in 2012-2013, the market was really at it's saturation point for the "grey-brown military shooter", and the Wii U was like a breath of fresh air for those seeking an alternative...but sadly the mainstream still wanted more CoD, Battlefield, and Killzone at that time.
Ah, thanks for the help.
Gosh.... $600 - 700 is kinda killing me.
I must live on the moon or something, all the comments claiming to have seen many switch machines been played in public. I haven't seen one or heard even a whisper about it, maybe it hasn't caught on yet here in cornwall, either that or ppl are telling porkies to help the hype. I am sure it has sold many, I see ppl playing 3ds, even vita but no switch yet. I am sure that will change eventually
@Anti-Matter - You have a few options:
1) go with a cheaper setup, (under $400) like an integrated video card with 4GB RAM...some are pretty powerful and will work for The Sims 3 and 4, but don't expect to run Tomb Raider or GTAV very well. Check the requirements I listed.
2) Go with a desktop setup where you aren't paying for a monitor and portability.
3) Wait for a sale
Wii U's biggest problems were the concept, the name, the failure to appeal to either casuals or the so-called 'core' gamers, the quirky architecture, Nintendo's lack of preparation for HD Development despite years of watching Wii/DS money pile up, the poor launch, the even worse first months after launch and the marketing. The media is way down that list.
It's okay, he's my best friend and in all honesty we support each other in the exploration of uncharted territory - I get him Nintendo games and he gets me Xbox One games. We're pretty much even.
@Maxz "I'm beginning to think certain commenters only post the way they do because it's the most effective way of getting people to talk to them."
He's quite clearly an only child.
Your first year comparison doesn't work because we don't know what Nintendo's first year schedule looks like. What we currently have is Zelda, 12 Switch and Snipperclips released, MK8D in two weeks, Arms in June and Splatoon 2 in July. Scheduled for 2017 are Project Mekuru, Mario, Fire Emblem Warriors and Xenoblade 2. Not sure that last one will make 2017 myself but it could slip into 2018 and still make the systems first year.
At the equivalent stage (Jan 2013) Wii U had Mario U and Nintendo Land. The next Nintendo-published game scheduled was Lego City which wasn't until April at which point the system was 5 months old. For comparison, Switch will have 6 first-party games at the equivalent point. That lack of momentum killed Wii U and Switch will explicitly avoid it.
After that Pikmin 3, Game and Wario and Luigi U didn't make it until July/August. Then Wind Waker HD was October with Mario Sonic at the Olympics, Mario 3D World and Wii Party November and Wii Fit U December. That's the whole first-party line-up for the machines first 13 months.
Yet with Switch we haven't even reached E3 yet where there will almost certainly be more to come. It's a couple of big announcements away from being a storming first nine months.
Also, while I see your point that in an ideal world Nintendo would love to coin it in from 3 or 4 big releases a year, in reality they've been putting out 20+ a year across Wii U and 3DS. 12+ a year for Switch (with 3 or 4 tentpole releases) is comfortably within their capabilities.
@Anti-Matter um, yeah... Not at all what I was trying to say.
I'm not talking about what types of games you like vs. what someone else may prefer.
I'm talking about pure objective facts, and those are that western AAA games are the most sought after and widely adopted games in todays home console market. It's just true. Just ask yourself: why did PS4 and XB1 leave the Wii U in the dust despite one less year on the market? Software. What sort of software? Western AAA support. These are just facts.
@cleveland124 exactly. The success of Switch is quite literally only because of Zelda. That is it.
102% attach ratio is absurd. Without BotW the Switch is DOA.
Problem is, despite the hot start, Nintendo still doesn't have a game plan to follow up Zelda with. Unbelievable really.
Sometimes I hate the Facts.
That's the reason why I still keep saying I don't like Mostly Western 3rd party.
Their games just Pure 100 % Suck for me.
Not attractive at all.
I Hate Pathethic fps cod, Lame fifa games, Disgusting killing games. Bruh !!
So stupid and disgusting gaming taste.
Any better games than those Pathetic games despite of Facts and Objectivity ?
(Only The Sims series are The Best Western games for me)
@gatorboi352 They do!
This could go either way, but I expect it to be better than Zelda!
Come back to Brazil already Nintendo. Takes note Sony and Micrisoft.
@Crono1973 hi, I am a human being. I also own the Nintendo switch and scrolling down the comments i read you dont think people use tabletop mode at all. I sorta just skimmed over your comments so if I read them wrong sorry in advance! But, as it so happens to be, I use table top mode quite a bit! The games i used to play tabletop mode with 2 people are Zelda, all the neo geo titles, snipper clips, fast racing neo, and 1 2 switch. I've played table top mode at work with co workers, at a local coffee shop, at the park, on a plane, in my home(does that count as public?) and even at restaurants! I hope this statement puts your worries and questions at ease as I am living human proof to be using the tabletop mode with 2 people in public. Toodle doo!
@walrusballs It's more that people are pretending that most people use tabletop mode in public and if that were true, we would all be seeing more of it. In their effort to make the Switch seem so much better than the Wii U (or the 3DS), they exaggerate things. For example, they might say that the Switch is a game changer because you can now play Zelda on the go. That's really nothing new as the first handheld Zelda game came out on the Game Boy 23 years ago and we have been playing Zelda on the go ever since. My 3DS has plenty of Zelda games on it. Another example is just that you can take it anywhere with you, it's like people forgot about the Game Boy and all it's iterations and the DS and it's iterations as well as handhelds by other companies. Of course they didn't forget, they just feel the need to talk the Switch up.
Wow, Table Top Mode at Restaurant ?
I will try it layer ...
That's ironic because open world games were really driven by western developers. I'd go as far to say Zelda BotW is the most western Zelda made.
Open World basically can be developed either Japanese or Western developers.
I like Open World style but as long the games are NOT Adult games (Rated M).
The fact that I got, there are Tons of NSFW games all the time, until I think at some points there are no more creativity again from Western developers but same Evil and NSFW games to be called a Games. They keep exploit that Rubbish games for No Heart No Kindness gamers who are really hungry with NSFW contents. I feel disgusting to see people around me adore such a rubbish like that, that's why I don't want to befriend with peoples which I think will only give me a bad influence like that. Sorry with my comments, I just want to be honest with my feeling.
First console I ever bought on launch day and I couldn't be happier! I just wish I could get some more titles like AC or pilot wings to balance out the Fast RmX's and other more difficult games. Anyways, it will be the games like Animal crossing which will bring in the casual gaming audience
@Crono1973 hmm interesting... people pretending that most use tabletop mode huh? I think it's fair to say no one will ever know exactly unless there was some sort of poll or some sort of video showing people using TT mode. Although, while I do not see most people using TT mode either, it doesn't mean they aren't using TT mode behind our backs!(suckers!!!) In any case, TT mode will be used more once there are more games that suit other people's liking.
I do agree with you that Zelda was playable on the go many years ago. But at this point in time there was no handheld that can play a Zelda at 1080p, which is home console status. It's pretty much like taking your ps4 or xbone everywhere, with a full hd screen on the console with 2 controllers to boot. I think that's what they mean for "now being able to play Zelda on the go". The fact that it's a home console/handheld hybrid that can play the most top notch graphics for a Zelda, in today's gaming era. That pretty much what happened 23 years ago is what you're saying, am I right? So ya the gameboy is pretty much what happened, but with the addition of 2 controllers being one, running games clocked at 1080p, also playing on your HD tv at home and your favorite aspect yet: the 2 player TT mode (; So in a way it's a tribute to the gameboy in today's gaming era which I am so happy it happened. And is also reason enough(for me and many others) to talk the switch up... do you not agree?
@Anti-Matter ya definitely loads of fun at a restaurant, I even got the waiter to play a round 😂
Despite being an enhanced port, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe will push more hardware that you'd think...
That's stereotyping pretty heavily. Zelda takes alot from Skyrim. That's why I said specifically it was the most Western Zelda. I'm not really sure what you mean when you say anyone who enjoys Western games is disgusting to you nor do I really care. Most of us on here have other systems and enjoy games made by a variety of developers. If that disgusts you, you probably shouldn't hang around here.
@Crono1973 but this is home console quality on the go. Big difference.
"...the thing I find the most humorous are the people who say they never bought a Wii U and then beg for Wii U ports. If there were enough interest in Wii U games to justify buying a Switch and then begging for ports then there was enough interest to justify buying a Wii U."
Eh, you're just going to have to take it with a grain of salt. The Wii U had its perks, but for many consumers it's concept was less to be desired compared to the Switch's. And seeing is how the Switch is getting some ports of Wii U games, there's a large possibility of some of the Wii U's brightest gems being ported over to much wider and more interested audience.
I have some Western games that fascinated me, but only a few. Let's say The Sims series (The Best Western games for me), Earthlock: Festival of Magic, Animal Boxing NDS, My Sims series, Overcooked. Also, I have Zelda Breath of the Wild Switch (My first time owning Zelda games).
Take a note, I only play Appropriate games (Maximum Rated Teen). They are still Safe For Watch to audiences.
The Rubbish that i meant was All NSFW Western games (Rated M / 18+ ) and All NSFW Japanese games (CERO C / D / Z)
Sorry, no offense. I can't stand with those Rubbish like that. Too Overwhelming.
Okay you said Japanes and Western developers. I thought your stance was western developers make those games and japanese don't which would definately be incorrect. I'm not sure it's any more likely a western would make an r rated game over a japanese company. Nintendo even makes or sponsors mature rated games. They are responsible for 4 mature games coming to the wii u. Looking at a quick list of mature rated titles, about 15% of the wii u releases were mature. It'd take too much time to do a PS4 comparison but I doubt it's much higher a ratio for the PS4 if it is at all.
Yeah, I know it from beginning.
But Nintendo has LESS Rated M games so I feel Safe by trusting my gaming experience to Nintendo since Nintendo has A Lot of Kawaii (Cute) games like ACNL, Kirby, Mii games, Mario games, etc.
@faint but this is home console quality on the go. Big difference.No it isn't. How many console Zelda games can I play on my 3DS? How many console ports in general can I play on my Vita?
Off the top of my head. Zelda 1, 2, A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time & Majora's Mask. For the Vita, I can play ports of Final Fantasy X and X-2, some Disgaea games and then we can stop to consider all the PS1 Classics that can be played on the PSP/Vita. Playing console games on the go is just not a big deal, sorry.
Kind of a weird double standard. Nintendo doesn't make many mature games so you trust them? But if a person plays 1 mature game or watches an R rated movie they are disgusting and you wouldn't be friends with them and don't want to be around them? Just odd that you tolerate that from Nintendo or that you trust any company since their primary objective is to take your money.
@Crono1973 those are older games from past consoles with far less power. The vita titles are all down ports just like xenoblade on the new 3ds was. You know this you just like to argue. I can see semantics and never ending spiral arguments are your game.
@JubilifeRival Dissent is welcome the problem is the frequency of the negativity, according to others.
@faint I thought you said home console quality on the go? Ok. so that must mean that you see a quality difference between say...Link's Awakening and A Link to the Past. I am saying you can play A Link to the Past on the go and for that game, you could do it on the GBA too. The N64 games are still the same quality, some would say they are better on the 3DS due to the superior aiming controls. So help me understand why console Zelda's cease to be console quality when they are ported (or emulated) on the 3DS.
Wow, yasume got 29 mentions with just one reply. She/he only said that Switch didn't sell well in Europe. Europe isn't N's best market. In Greece you can find it everywhere but we have to wait and see about numbers. Fifa 2018 will help a lot. Hope it gets the frostbite engine (PS4, Xbox One and PC version of Fifa 17 got it, not PS3 thought). I don't want to buy a port of the PS3 version.
@faint semantics Non answer.
@Crono1973 oh I clearly gave one. You are arguing semantics by ignoring steps forward in technology because it doesn't fit your argument. You have a wiiu yes? Do you have bow for it? I have it for my switch and it runs better than the wiiu version anywhere. That is what someone means when they say console experience on the go. You know this. You just want to argue semantics. I did give you an answer. Semantics.
@faint So when you say 'console experience on the go', you mean only current gen?
Let me give you my argument. You can play console ports on your 3DS and so acting as if this is something new is an exaggeration. Now that's as simple as I can make my argument.
Your argument seems to be that anything that isn't current gen is not console quality and I disagree.
@Crono1973 there you go again.
@Crono1973 I can play pong on my iPhone. That doesn't mean I'm getting an authentic arcade pong experience. You know what I am talking about. Stop with the semantics already.
@faint Unfortunately, I am just not understanding you.
@Crono1973 can you get an authentic pong experience on an iPhone?
Do you seriously believe playing decade(s) old console Zelda ports/remakes on the 3DS will provide the same experience as playing Breath of the Wild on a Nintendo Switch in portable mode??
@westman98 I think that acting like 'playing Zelda on the go' is some new experience is BS.
@faint I don't play Pong anywhere so I can't say. Do you think you can get an authentic Ocarina of Time experience on the 3DS?
@Crono1973 no because it was designed around the n64 control scheme. I played both when still new btw
@Crono1973 can you get an authentic twilight princess experience on the go?
@Crono1973 how about those ds games on the wiiu? Does that feel authentic? Does it feel like a portable experience?
@faint no because it was designed around the n64 control scheme. I played both when still new btw Well I disagree, I think it controls just fine, even better really than on the N64. You know, I have heard people say that when playing Breath of the Wild on the Switch that they could just feel that it was designed for the Wii U.
can you get an authentic twilight princess experience on the go? It hasn't been ported to a portable so I would say not at this time. What relevance does this question have?
how about those ds games on the wiiu? Does that feel authentic? Does it feel like a portable experience? The DS games feel like DS games. Not sure why you asked this.
Playing old console Zelda ports/remakes on the go is not new.
Playing a new, 3D Zelda game on the go is new.
@westman98 ..and I just don't see how it's really a game changer.
I never said it was a "gamechanger." I said playing Zelda BOTW on the Switch in handheld/tabletop mode provides a much more compelling experience than playing old console Zelda ports on the 3DS.
This doesn't "revolutionize" anything like what the DS's touch display or the Wii's motion controls did to the gaming industry back in 2004/2006, but the prospect was clearly very enticing, enough to make the Switch launch Nintendo's biggest in the US.
Why do you come on here if you are disgusted with people that might influence, just because we like or play mature games. This site is full of people that play mature games, I guess we are all disgusting to you, this is the norm. I have no idea why you come on here if it makes you feel this way, don't take offence I was just wondering that's all
This is already a damn good year for Nintendo. Hopefully they can keep the hype train running at E3.
"I think that acting like 'playing Zelda on the go' is some new experience is BS."
Imagine playing Ocarina of time on a handheld in 1998. Same day it came out on the N64. And you only have to buy one copy of the game. Not a remake or a port or a less-demanding 2D entry. It's the most sophisticated and advanced Zelda ever and you can play it on a Portable. That's completely new.
You can be as honest as you want but you will have to accept calling people who play anything other than children's games disgusting is going to cause offence. Not only is it narrow-minded bit it's hypocritical as it includes other Nintendo players who like Fatal Frame, Eternal Darkness, Bayonetta, Geist, Ninja Gaiden etc.
@Crono1973 One console, filling both purposes. I don't have $600+ to spend on separate consoles and then purchase a library for both. The Switch lets me own a single console that does both.
The iPad is not a gaming device for traditional gaming. It is a device that allows casual games or with expensive add-ons limited console gaming.
The Vita, 3DS, PSP, DS were portable, but only offered handheld gaming experiences with reduced graphics. It was great if you were okay with graphics a few generations behind.
The Switch offers last gen graphics with portability, couch co-op, and more in a single package. Basically it is taking the best features of the Wii U and improving them. As an added bonus, the Switch isn't dependent on a single controller that is expensive and difficult to replace (gamepad), as I am facing since my right analog stick no longer goes to the right without fighting with it.
Thank you for concerning about me.
Well, as you can see I NEVER come into post with Rated M Nintendo games topics and trolling with so Harsh comments. I'm very Selective here and very Carefully say my honest feeling even my comments may dismay someone. I know most users here are Adult gamer oriented but I NEVER attacking specific users with very Harsh Comments.
I know if I have some issues with my past, I hide my hatred feeling against Rated M games carefully but sometimes some evidences may exposing my Traumatic Memories accidentally if I meet with circumtances that reviving that Worst Memories.
So, i'm here because I really Love Nintendo games but I never like every single of Rated M games regardless Nintendo or Sony. I know there will be a Nintendo gamer who play Rated M games. Since I have to obey the website rules, I only give comments for certain posts. You will see I Never post any single negative comments on Rated M Nintendo games posts. I just simply ignore them, pretend those games does never exist.
Anyway, thanks for the comments.
@electrolite77 Imagine playing Ocarina of time on a handheld in 1998. Same day it came out on the N64. Ok well I see where you are going. You are saying that I should be awed that a handheld can do current gen console graphics and to be honest, that just doesn't impress me. I play mostly retro games anyway so graphics just aren't a big deal to me and so far the Switch just isn't worth it for me. I just don't care that i can play a brand new Zelda on a portable and I would likely leave the Switch docked most of the time anyway (which would lead to the console bending from the heat). Which is why I bought the Gamecube ver..oops I mean the Wii U version of Zelda.
Thank you for remind me.
Well, people can call me Weird or Childish or Whatever, because this is who I am.
I admit if some of my comments may attacking people by accidentally. Because of My Fear and My Past can drive me Mad if I realize Rated M contents around me.
I'm sorry for making you critique my attitudes. Keep remind me if I did like this again.
You might not care, fair enough, but it's potentially a big selling point. A clear, unique selling point to offer people. One of the many differences between Switch and Wii U that render the 'if people wanted Wii U games they should have bought a Wii U' argument null and void. They're different machines.
@electrolite77 The flaw in the 'but the graphics are better' argument is that PS4 is superior (which is talked about on other forums) and the PC wipes the floor with it so if you care about graphics, then you must care how inferior both the Wii U and the Switch are. Luckily I don't care about graphics or the technical awesome of a tablet with a controller.
Are you Fan of Big screen ?
Because some people don't like handhelds due to smaller size monitor. They want bigger.
I'm not sure I mentioned graphics but I agree to a point. If you just want to play games for how they look get a top end PC. Except of course, such a machine can't legitimately play Nintendo games. If you want to play the optimum versions of Nintendo's games, you'll want a Switch.
@electrolite77 If you want to play the optimum versions of Nintendo's games, you'll want a Switch.Right, it's about the games and not whether you can play the most powerful games on a tablet with a controller. You don't need a Switch to play most Nintendo games though.
Are you Fan of Big screen ? Because some people don't like handhelds due to smaller size monitor. They want bigger. I like both but anything at a high resolution needs to be on a bigger screen for me because text gets hard to read. I am 43 years old and my eyes aren't what they used to be. I have trouble playing Dragon Quest Builder without reading glasses and I really dislike wearing them.
Anyway, I have to go celebrate Easter so I have to go. You guys have a great Easter Sunday (if you celebrate it).
@Morph This is the problem.
I don't think that FE Warriors, Skyrim and Fifa can sell the system.
I hope for E3, not for more first party, but for more third party support.
I want more jrpgs and western support.
In over, i remember Xenoblade 2 for this year, maybe can it be released among September/October? Before Mario Odyssey.
@faint What are you on about? The title makes no mention of these being NoA-only figures. It's clear someone hasn't read my comment properly.
So far the success will improve with every system they produce.
It's complete sold out everywhere, even here in Scandinavia.
These days, the Switch is in full "market absorption" mode. And seeing how pre-orders aren't being tracked and reported anymore, it's hard to know for how long this will go on.
We could potentially be in a situation where FE Warriors, Skyrim and Fifa don't even have to try and sell the system when the time comes, because Zelda, Mario Kart, and Splatoon are selling it already.
You need a Switch to play Zelda at its best, and in a couple of weeks the same will apply to Mario Kart. You will need it for future Nintendo games, and it's the most powerful console Nintendo have put out. Even as a handheld it's more powerful than their last home console.
So yeah, if you're into Nintendo games, you need a Switch. A high-powered PC is no use, their other machines (barring a few more months for 3DS) are dead and have been for a while.
@Falcon96 Fifa can be a system seller in europe particularly but I agree the other two won't be. Skyrim however might help create the image that Switch will get the big third party games in future and encourage sales from that point of view though.
Mario Odyssey will probably be enough to carry it through the holiday period, I don't think Xenoblade will make 2017 personally, it'll be spring or summer 2018
You do tend to bring mature games into the conversation alot and create personal attacks. For instance here, I said I thought Switch lineup was lacking. You immediately come back with mature games are awful, people who enjoy them are disgusting, and Nintendo is your safe space. I didn't bring in mature games at all. You brought those in and you do it alot whenever people talk about Nintendo lacking a diverse game library. I.E. my favorite type of games is racing games. Those aren't mature and they are traditionally limited on Nintendo consoles.
My advice to you is if you feel the need to respond to thise arguments, just say you enjoy Nintendo games because they focus mainly on family friendly games and leave it at that. You have your feelings and no one around here is going to try to convince you to play mature games. But you'd talk about them less and think about them less if you simply bring them up less.
Thank you for the advice.
@electrolite77 You need a Switch to play Zelda at its best, and in a couple of weeks the same will apply to Mario Kart. LOL, I don't need a Switch to play Wii U games.
and it's the most powerful console Nintendo have put out. Every new console/handheld is the most powerful console/handheld a company has put out. It wouldn't make sense for the 3DS to be weaker than the DS, for example and I think your comment about this is irrelevant.
Even as a handheld it's more powerful than their last home console. Fantastic but I really don't care about graphics and I have said this already. I have more fun with Chrono Trigger than I do with I am Setsuna. for example. So yeah, if you're into Nintendo games, you need a Switch. Whoa fella, you almost fell off the cliff here. You went from 'Switch is the best way to play Wii U ports' to 'You have to have a Switch to play Nintendo games' which is completely false. You don't even need a Switch to play the Switch's best games right now.
"LOL, I don't need a Switch to play Wii U games."
I said, 'at it's best' which you ignored. But it's true of Zelda and Mario Kart.
" Every new console/handheld is the most powerful console/handheld a company has put out. It wouldn't make sense for the 3DS to be weaker than the DS"
Again, trying to dodge my point. Never before has their new handheld been the most powerful console they've put out. You may not like it but it's true.
"Fantastic but I really don't care about graphics and I have said this already." Great but lots of people do. Just because you're determined to play down the significance of what Switch doesn't mean it doesn't matter.
"'You have to have a Switch to play Nintendo games' which is completely false. "
I already said "their other machines (barring a few more months for 3DS) are dead and have been for a while." which (again) you ignored. There are no more Nintendo games coming to Wii U (and their support has been phoned in to pad out the schedule since Mario Maker anyway). There's very little coming to 3DS. Again, you can deny it but the release schedules tell the story of where Nintendo's games are going.
Do you have at least an interest with any Switch games ?
Because Wii U will never get new games again anymore. And you will never be able to play ARMS, Splatoon 2, Super Mario Odyssey on Wii U. Your Nintendo games library will ended until Wii U if you keep persistent with your mindset. You can say "I can play my old games, I don't really need Switch game A or B or C." But Nintendo will keep adding Switch games, slowly discontinue Wii U support.
Adding your Nintendo video games is not a bad idea. So you can play All your Nintendo games collections in different Nintendo machines.
Btw, you said you don't even need Switch to play Switch games. What ? Seriously ? How on Earth you able to play Switch on Non Switch machines ?
There is No Way...
If you keep insist for Being Retro, GBA / Gamecube / Game & Watch are for you. And No More New games.
@Anti-Matter Maybe later when good first party exclusives are released. Did you guys put this much effort into convincing people that the Wii U was the must have console for those who like Nintendo games.
I have Wii U also, but I wanna Add More Nintendo video games. They are part of Nintendo Family. So far, I have Older 3DS XL, New 3DS XL, NDS Lite to play handhelds games while Wii for Wii & Gamecube + Wii U for Wii U and Wii games. I will Add Switch as my Sixth Nintendo machines collection. Having a New thing is not a bad idea.
That's an absolutely great start. Gotta say MK8, Splatoon2, and Arms don't seem like games that can keep that momentum going on their own. E3 needs to have some great announcements for the Q3 and Q4 release schedules.
@Musashiden wut ? Splatoon was bought by more or less a 1/3 of WiiU owners (4.5 millions), you really think people arent hyped over Splatoon 2 ?
it will be a massive month for the Switch when Splatoon releases
@Yasume Well I'm European myself and Switch has been impossible to find since launch actually. Also Russia is not Europe.
Neither is Britain (UK) thankfully.
@CB85 Are you trying to claim that it's unanimously confirmed that Russia is an Asian country? Because it's not. More people consider it a European country.
@Yasume What, Asian? No. Russia is neither Europe nor Asia. It's Russia.
@CB85 Russia is not a continent.
@Yasume Right? Nor is it Asia or Europe. :]
@CB85 Right. Great logic bro.
@Yasume Thank you 😊😊
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