The research firm SuperData has released its analysis of Nintendo Switch sales in March, reporting that 2.4 million units were sold worldwide according to its information. Nintendo's original estimates for the financial year (launch up to the end of March) was two million units.
SuperData also originally predicted that the Nintendo Switch would sell five million units in 2017, however based on March figures the research firm now predicts that the Nintendo Switch will sell around 7.2 million units in 2017. That would take it a long way towards the confirmed Wii U sales to date of 13.56 million units.
Of course, in recent times there have been reports of Nintendo ramping up manufacturing for this financial year. All will become clearer on 27th April with Nintendo's annual financial reports and related presentations - we should find out exact launch sales and the company's own projected figures when those reports are issued.
[source venturebeat.com]
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Nintendo is back!
Yay !
Keep going, Nintendo !
inb4 Nintendoomers come in saying "This doesn't mean squat. Nintendo needs more games and PS4 levels of AAA third party support before the Switch can even dream of outselling the Wii U!"
Numbers like these will need to be sustained through the coming months in order for the Switch to be a unobjectionable success. Like the third parties not supporting the Switch right now, I'm playing the waiting game.
If they will indeed keep the promise of every major franchise on the console, then it will boost even more sales. Needs some slid games along it's lifespan to keep it afloat.
@KirbyTheVampire I kinda feel bad for Nintendoomers like Sliggy; they're going to have a hard time spinning this without abandoning every semblance of objectivity.
They'll sell 7 million by E3.
Hashtag Road To 16 Million March 2018
According to @Yasume infinite knowledge this doesn't mean squat sway.
7.2 million only??? That analysts needs to be fired. It already sold 2.4 in its first month! The holiday season + steady stream of games already announced practically guarantees 10m+ at this point. There is no way an open world Mario game doesn't sell this system. Also, if Pokémon Stars is released this year, the Switch won't be in stock anywhere until the March of 2018.
@TwilightOniAngel Don't forget @Sligeach_Eire in fact, where are they when you need some skepticism?
Nice with some luck the switch will outdo the wii u in sales before the year is over
That sir is a lot of Switch's sold in a month.
I'll call it Sir Switchalot!
Why are people attacking @Yasume and @SLIGEACH_EIRE before they even say anything? How immature.
@JubilifeRival You must be new here.
@Gridatttack I think the Switch will get every major franchise twice because Nintendo has all their eggs in one basket.
@joealejos Sure, as long as they make that many.
I thought i was special for buying a switch. Well more sales means hopefully more games. If the next months still look as good as the last im completely sold on its success. Go switch.
If they can stock them on store shelves, that is. Come on Nintendo- the Great White North needs some Nintendo Switches!!!
@JubilifeRival because they always got something negative about Nintendo
@Slim1999 To be fair, being positive all the time is no good.
@MegaVel91 that is certainly true, though there are much, much, better ways to phrase things. It's one thing to be negative, it's another to be passive (in some cases not passive) aggressive.
On topic: this is really good news for Nintendo. Still a long way to overcome WiiU lifetime sales, but it's a good start. I can imagine sales will go through the roof once they announce the big games like Monster Hunter, Smash Brothers, and the big one: mainline Pokemon game.
@JubilifeRival
Those users bring baaaaad vibes here, negging and criticising without being constructive. I'm all for opposing points of view, but the poor or void justification of opinion is the real immature thing.
Unfortunately the mods abet this tide of negativity by not discouraging these users to channel their viewpoint in a way that facilitates fair discussion.
It's a shame because it's pretty much the only sticking point about the NintendoLife community.
Either way, I think the best thing to do is carry on and try to create a place of good vibes and good discussion here and ignore the bummers
Edit: spelling
That's great. Now we need games
Excellent news! If this is how well the Switch does with "one worthwhile game" in a non-holiday season, I am sure that MK8, Splatoon, and Odyssey will get this system really far!
@Yalaa I do find it odd he's not here. That man is always here,all day everyday.
@KirbyTheVampire
I have been using this site everyday since September 2013. I am quite familiar with these two users' opinions; however, I don't approve of people stifling their viewpoints before they even open their mouths.
@JubilifeRival I agree with you and find both extremes annoying tbh.
Honestly, to sell that many with "just" Zelda tells us two things: 1. Zelda is a big deal. 2. Nintendo has dedicated/hopeful fans.
Honestly, Nintendo has a lot of "system sellers" in their arsenal. A new Metroid as good as the prime series would sell consoles. I bought my Wii U for Luigi U.
And if they really get Beyond Good & Evil 2.... especially if it's timed exclusive or exclusive, those kinds of things will move systems. And Mario's not even here yet.
Xmas / holiday season is going to be a stonker!
This isn't relevant but I came home from college to see my family for the weekend and they surprised me with a Switch as an early birthday gift! Best surprise ever, love my family.
@wiggleronacid Aw, lovely!
Well, I'm hoping that things'll turn out all right. More than anything, I want Super Mario Odyssey. If the world can stay alive until I play it...
@JubilifeRival There's really no need to wait for them to say it, considering they practically say the same thing in every single article.
I'm really curious about E3. I wonder how many people will start taking Switches to gaming conventions. If Nintendo plays it well, E3 would be the place to show the multiplayer strength of the Switch, as well as free marketing.
According to other reports (vgchartz) Switch sold an estimated 1,363,622 units worldwide in its first two days on sale. So 640k for rest of the month isn't so good. Even Wii U sold well in first month. Main problem other than lack of games is the price. Why not sell first two years for a loss? They will make it up in the long run from total sales and game revenue. It works for Nespresso. The capsules are overpiced but machines are cheap.
I think the analysts are right in their predictions, based on the confirmed information we have now. Even for the holiday season, we don't know much about triple A games coming to the Switch. E3 could move the needle either way. if they announce strong first party and third-party support Nintendo could surpass the 8 million mark in 2017. And still, we won't know for sure the destiny of the console, until 2018.
At this point even nintendoomers could be right, as well as the hyper fanboys.
@dimi that slowdown is due mostly to supply. I am wary though, if it hits a slump I hope it's akin to the 3DS in the sense that they can recover from it.
On a side note, best games this year have been Japanese so far, I can't say Persona 5 pushes the envelope in terms of graphical fidelity. I think the Switch is gonna kill when it comes to JRPGs (I know P5 is PS4 exclusive, we're still getting SMT, DQXI, and Xenoblade within 2 yrs)
Let's see what happens after 3 months. Way too early to tell anything about its long-term success. But it's off to a great start.
I bought 2 of those =)
Still too early to tell. The initial purchases are good, but can it maintain that momentum. That will indicate it's future.
@Rexx
Are you insane? That's the only sticking point about this damn community?
Quite honestly, some of the losers here can be downright abusive!
Fah on your porridge, sir! Good day!
@SLIGEACH_EIRE At this point I believe my current feelings on Nintendo's success is "cautiously hopeful".
They have been doing fantastic with the Switch, I'm just so paranoid after how the WiiU did that I'm almost afraid to get my hopes up.
@Syrek24 They do tend to bring a more pessimistic side, which is not a bad thing. It adds more than it takes away to have a counter opinion....can't believe im defending @SLIGEACH_EIRE
I fully expect Superdata to adjust their current predictions upward again as the months progress.
While not all of us have the time for an intelligent back and forth on this forum (not for lack of desire), its probably really hard for some of us not to chime in with some positivity for Nintendo on this one. This isn't unwarranted with the good news coming in, and we've been waiting years for this feeling. Its also very understandable to be pessimistic about a company you're rooting for that's had so many ups and downs/mis steps. Its great to see so many clashing personalities that want the same thing. So I'll just say that so far, it looks like they're doing it again. Its early, but this continues to show signs of the winning formula. I'd much rather be optimistic than the opposite, as long as I'm well informed that is. But that's just my personality showing, glass half full. Pessimism can be very informative info wise. So anyway..."go Nintendo go" haha. Well I tried lol.
Great, but lets not forget it's only been 1 month. I want it to succeed and I waited in line launch night to get one and Zelda and it's by far the best game/system I've ever had. But I also felt that way about my Wii/u and my 300+ game library I've amassed over the last 10+ years. And we all know how the Wii U sold...
But if sales can keep up, then even the Wii got tons of great 3rd party AAA support. My PS3/4 library is nothing compared to my Wii U.
@KirbyTheVampire Still, you are selling them short.
Ok, to be completely fair, I think @SLIGEACH_EIRE is critical a lot, and I've made some jabs at him before, but at least his criticism is little more constructive than some other, bona fide trolls. I've also noticed he gets credit a lot for tipping this site off to good news about Nintendo every now and then. I personally have a hard time believing the Irish have a bunch of Switches on the shelf, but I don't think of him as a troll, just an entertaining devil's advocate. @Yasume ...not defending that one.
Back to topic...looks good to me!
@BlueKnight07 Exacts thoughts regarding SLIGEACH_EIRE.
I must admit that I've found the games so far in the Switch rather disappointing but I guess it was the same when the PS$ and Xbox One came out. So, I;'m holding out 'till Black Friday or X-mas to commit to a Switch,
@KirbyTheVampire Love how the next comment after yours does exactly that.
I have been playing the Switch A LOT more than I ever played my Wii U. I love how flexible it is and fits into my lifestyle. I am a teacher and see a lot of excitement for the system among both my students and the adults/parents that I've talked to about gaming. The system is just so much more appealing at a concept level than Wii U ever was. Nintendo-Win!
@JubilifeRival With users like this, it is not about viewpoint. They don't share their viewpoint, they just say whatever sounds negative at the moment.
With this strong start, I would not be too concerned with any lull in sales. Zelda can't be a system seller to everybody. A Mario game will come. And if this thing does take the place of the 3DS, it will get a main Pokemon game. The system will keep selling in that case.
For all the people predicting 10 million plus in 2017, Nintendo has to be able to make and ship that many. They might not have planned for it.
Are you guys purposely blowing up SLIGEACH_EIRE and Yasume's mailboxes?
This is a fantastic start for Nintendo! Here is to hoping the Nintendo Switch is a major success for both the gamers, and Nintendo themselves!
@Yalaa In a nutshell, the Switch is too expensive, where's the "AAA"s?, why does Ireland get left out... oh and Nintendo sucks for the other fella...that's about the sum of it.
@Frosty_09
Well my friend I am with you on that. It certainly would be duller without them, take this article for example, talking about them or in some cases just been rude about them has brightened up this article. What I have noticed is certain users come on NL and troll them, with no other imput, always dissing them to other like minded users, especially concerning SligyEire, most just laugh at yasume. Sligy has many valid points and some not so and he might get under the skin of certain Sligy trolls just because of different opinions. Many comments on this site are positive, but at the same time full of BS that are posted by ppl who are right up nintendo's backside. I like Ninty but also other companies, and all of them make mistakes and bad decisions, when this is pointed out the fun starts
@dimi your first mistake was using vgchartz as a source. Secondly the price is fine.
They can lower price over time.
@BlueKnight07 My thoughts exactly. I said as much in another article last night actually, but it was waaaaay down there.
Anyway this is on track to be PS4 numbers! Nice work, Nintendo. Keep churning 'em out!
It will be interesting to see how the next few months play out. Nintendo seem to have learned the lessons of the 3DS and Wii U launches to maintain momentum this time.
@Spoony_Tech I tagged SLIGEACH_EIRE in a post I made last night... But only because it was positive and I wanted him to see good vibes for once. I think it's rude to tag someone who isn't participating in the conversation for any reason other than that (unless you want, say, rjejr's opinion or whoever) even if it is Yasume.
@kobashi100
Price is never fine, I always like to buy any product cheaper if I can, who wouldn't. Ok your right about vgacharts but it's only a guideline, what I have noticed with vgacharts is sometimes they overestimate and underestimate but adjust the charts accordingly when new info is released from Sony or Nintendo regarding sales
7.2 million? How did they arrive upon such an arbitrary number? Not 7 or 7.5 million, but 7.2 million specifically. xD
Personally, I think it might sell more than that. 8 million should be reachable. I'm very curious to see Nintendo's forecast for the coming (fiscal) year!
A solid start, better than I expected personally. Now they have to keep momentum.
I do think they're in a better position this time than with the WiiU though. They have room for a price drop if necessary and they have games like Mario Kart coming already. Not to mention their advertising have been a lot more on-point.
Hoping for the best. But right now it's almost impossible to tell how it'll do in the long run.
I will say this about Slig - He can take some punching back in stride which I do admire. However, I do still think he goes out of his way to always interject some negativity whenever possible.
I'm always suspect of people that seem to have nothing positive to say on essentially a fan-news website...you begin to wonder why they continue to frequent and support a community for something one would normally have long ago abandoned when you realize the brand or product is not for you or no longer for you.
My two cents.
That's incredible for a March console launch. The Switchening continues, all Nintendo has to do is bring the software line-up during E3.
It'll be interesting to see if commercial 3rd party devs start jumping on the bandwagon. There's a pool of 2.4 million Switch owners that want to play good things, no more crying about install bases
But now watch they will only make 2 million more this year. Just because.
@BezBot I love the fact that Nintendo has had a successful launch. It's nice to see them cool again in the publics opinion. I'm starting to see people playing the Switch at work (I work at LAX). It was so sad to see kids play with nothing but iPads for years, with the occasional 3DS. I remember seeing nothing but the Nintendo DS being played. And when the Lite came out, based on just what I saw at work, lots of older people jumped on the bandwagon. With all that said, I think I'll hold off on thinking that until at least a year from now. There's a huge part of me that thinks that Nimtendo has learned a lot from the last five years or so, and it shows so far. But there's a small part of me that says don't get too happy just yet. Watch how this plays out for a while. Nintendo has had a history of making odd buzzkill decisions.
It's had a great start, now Nintendo now needs to keep the momentum going. E3 is now massive in regarding upcoming games in late 2017 and early 2018.
Nice, as i said before Nintendo filled a black hole with the Nintendo Switch. In my opinion, the Switch is just Genius. If the marketing is right and the games keep on coming and the reveal de to keep the hype train on the road, Nintendo will rewrite History with the Switch.
They cant hold back now.
As for the Nintendoomers, u guys need a tissue? To wipe away those tears?
Haha they will sell around 9-13 mil maybe by the end of the year , well i hope so haha just keep bring games people want!
@Frosty_09 #63 great comment.
Interesting to see that a lot of people here are quick to attack SLIGEACH_EIRE before he has even commented here. Nothing wrong with disagreeing, but attacking people before they've even said anything to disagree with just seems mean. Some people just want to complain about him or insult him no matter what. It also seems that not many people have noticed that the only comment Sligeach has made in this thread is a cautiously optimistic one.
On topic, the Switch is doing better than I expected, and a fantastic E3 could make the console on course for brilliance.
@crimsontadpoles
Yep, couldn't agree more. Trolls that troll so called trolls, bloody hell try saying that after 5 pints lol
The key thing for me is that the positive sales messages around this launch should change the narrative after two dismal console launches, which in turn should convince any third-party developers who are undecided on Nintendo support. In turn that should bring more game announcements, and that'll drive more sales and more third parties, and a positive cycle is in place. The first 6-12 months is key, and Nintendo seem to be heading in the right direction this time. The next key vital bit of positive PR would be a big, mainstream third party release selling big on Switch. A storming Fifa or even COD or similar for example would make the publishers sit up and take notice!
@ProjectCafe
Haha! Well... I think it's the biggest problem here, yeah
But I'm a pretty chill dude and I'm muuuuuch more interested in getting along and making friends here
@SLIGEACH_EIRE I like you when you're happy 😊
@thiswaynow 2 dismal console launches? What are those? 3DS and Wii U? The Wii U didn't have a dismal launch. It had a very good launch, then stagnated after a couple of months. They do fine at the start, it's after the initial buzz is when problems arise.
I don't think 3rd parties will be changing their minds yet. It's way too early to tell. They'll be looking at game sales, more specifically, 3rd party game sales. Zelda has sold phenomenally, it was expected, so were good hardware sales. We didn't need today's figures to know that ourselves. We had the numbers from Japan, in excess of 500,000, U.S. in excess of 900,000 and that it had sold really well in Europe for the most part.
How well has the best 3rd party game sold. And I don't mean indie. The best selling game is probably Snake Pass. It's digital, there's no reason why we couldn't get numbers from Nintendo. But that game isn't a full priced, 3rd party retail game sitting on a shelf. Maybe it's Just Dance, I don't honestly know. Sure Monster Hunter could come out and it's guaranteed to sell gangbusters. It's a beast and not your regular 3rd party effort.
I buy all games on Nintendo consoles, 1st party, 3rd party and indies. But the majority do not. They stick to Nintendo games. So, it's not just about the hardware, we knew sales would be solid, it's about getting 3rd party games on board. And I don't mean gimped and late ports which we seen for the most part on Wii U if they ever even turned up. I'm still convinced that for long-term success that price has to come down. The casuals will not pay €330 for the Switch. And it's not just €330. You're realistically looking at in excess of €500 to get set up properly and with 1 game. Sure you could do it for €390 but that's not going to work well after a while.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
How do you think Switch has been communicated in comparison to WiiU?
How do you think the incoming games will fare in selling the system?
@Rexx
I don't know about how well the switch has been communicated to the masses, but it seems to be doing just fine in that department. I think the only 3rd party games that will shift units are MH and maybe yo-kai watch. It will be Ninty developed games of their best franchises that will shift the switch of shelves, can't see COD or Assassins Creed etc helping much in this department, that's not to say the switch doesn't need them because all games are welcome
@crimsontadpoles
"Interesting to see that a lot of people here are quick to attack SLIGEACH_EIRE before he has even commented here".
Yeah...All getting a bit weird.
@Rexx It's a mixed bag. They kept it simple in the initial first presentation, they tried to avoid comparisons with Wii U and I thought it was good. Then in the Japanese presentation, things changed and I didn't think it was great overall. I'm still not seeing any ads where I am. Nintendo have always been bad at that.
I don't know how the incoming games will fare. For me, as a Wii U owner, I see absolutely no reason to buy a Switch anytime soon. Zelda, own it on Wii U. LCU, Rayman Legends, MK8 Deluxe, again, I own them all on Wii U. I'm not interested in ARMS, nor Splatoon2, which just looks like a remix. I liked the original but eventually grew tired of it. My complaints about the first game are still in the second game. No voicechat, no backing out of a lobby if you change your mind, no changing on weapon sets while in the lobby. Even now, over a month after launch there's still so many questions to be answered from Nintendo about the Switch. Chief being Virtual Console and the online subscription.
For anyone who didn't own Wii U though, they'll have heard of MK8 and Splatoon, so now's their chance to pick these up. Splatoon 2 is going to do really well in Japan. Some say ARMS will be the new Splatoon. I don't see it at all.
I'll be interested when Super Mario Odyssey and Xenoblade 2 arrives. I'd love to see a new Metroid game. But it's not just about them. They need big 3rd party games. I've enjoyed some great games from them on Nintendo hardware over the years. Soul Calibur 2, Resident Evil 4, Okami, Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, Tales of Symphonia, Monster Hunter 3 as a few examples.
I wonder if analysts predicted similar future sales figures after the Wii U's first month on sale. . . .
Do you see the point I am making?
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Yeah, that is a good metric, since that's when the Wii U sales started to drop off.
What are you gonna say now, @Yasume?
That's great! I'm really optimistic about the Switch, though I do have doubts. It is possible that this will drop dramatically in April, though unlikely. The Switch definitely has more people interested than the Wii U ever did. People are asking me about it, and that has never happened.
Also, could you guys stop making fun of @SLIGEACH_EIRE? I don't think he deserves it. @Yasume is a different story, however.
I'm not sure arms is a system seller like other Ips will be. (Splatoon, mario etc) and I've no clue which way the mario kart camp will swing?
@Action51 Don't mind Subpoop. I've never tried to get anyone banned. I asked the mods if they would please ask him to stop harassing me. One look at his comments was all it needed for him to be asked to stop clogging my notifications or they would make it stop. It was insane, his comments page was full of notifications, references to me and abuse aimed at me. Even now he can't stop having indirect digs at me.
And again, March is a pretty awful month for consoles... this is not even holidays, if nintendo can keep the momentum throught this year we can see the Switch doing incredibly well for the rest of its lifespan (good first year = third party support)
7.2? Isn't that cute. BUT IT'S WRONG.
Supposing Nintendo can have the new production lines ready this fall, they will in all likelihood manage upwards of 10 million by the end of the holiday season.
You guys need to stop putting so much stock into Switch sales. Seriously.
The people predicting doom- what are you gonna do if it succeeds?
The people predicting mass success- what are you gonna do if it doesn't succeed?
I don't care if this thing sells 10 mil or 100 mil. I love it. And sales numbers are not going to change that.
That being said, I think we're all glad (well, perhaps a few aren't) to see it doing well thus far.
@JaxonH I really don't get the Nintendoomers, but most of us want the Switch to succeed because we love Nintendo, and want others to enjoy it and want Nintendo to make more consoles.
@Nintendoer
I get that. And I wish them success as well. But either way they're not going anywhere. In a worst-case scenario, they would just try some other idea.
Nothing wrong with wishing them success or being glad to see them succeed. But the people who act like that's all that matters and that the system has no value unless it sells well... that's what my comment was addressing. And that's why I said I don't care what this thing ends up selling- it has zero bearing on my opinion of the system and regardless of what happens I really love the Switch, be it the next Wii, Wii U or something in between
I would agree with the 7-8 million figure for the whole year. It's much more realistic than the silly 10-20 million amounts that others have thrown around. Getting 2.4 million in March is excellent, but keep in mind that subsequent months up until the holidays are not going to perform as well as the launch month, due to the red light, green light momentum of console shipments coinciding with game releases.
For example, most places right now have zero consoles to sell, because the last restock was in late March to early April, depending on where you look. There's not going to be much of any more consoles sold (except hidden stashes in bundles) at all until the end of April to early May, coinciding with the release of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Then there will be almost no consoles to sell in most of May, since Nintendo has no major first party releases lined up for that month. So it will be a wait until early to mid June for the next significant restock, lining up with E3 announcements and ARMS. Then a wait for mid to late July for the next restock for Spla2n. Then...
So yeah. Most people who would want an NS won't be able to have one for the first year, because they're sold out most of the time, and many of the Nintendo faithfuls who didn't give up after the Wii U have gotten their console already. Those numbers are going to drop like a rock until the holidays, once MK8D has had it's run.
For that case in particular, MK8D won't be able to compete with previous MK releases in numbers right away, because it's being released so early in the console's lifetime- you can't sell more games than you have consoles owned and available, so it will be hard capped for at least another year or two.
So yeah, the easy part is out of the way. It's going to be a steep uphill struggle from here on out for the rest of the year...
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Those certain responses to you, sir, are the result of an eloquent term that is colloquially known as, "salt." Fresh harvested, unadulterated, organic Dead Sea salt, to be precise. I've read that one of the better solvents for this "salt" happens to be an ambrosia known as "wood alcohol." Glycerin also works, but that's not as tasty. Probably. Don't quote me on that.
Translates to a nice large steady flow of games!! We suffered on Wii U! Redemption time!!
This ignore feature is amazing. So many immature people trying to instigate fights I don't have to scroll through.
@outsider83 Yeah it's had this many sales with only a few games and it isn't even a holiday time launch. Think how much the sales will go up, and more and more when Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Splatoon 2, ARMS, and Super Mario Odyssey. More sales also means more third party support and it's just great that everything is going good.
@Jhena I thought i was special for buying a switch. You have an account on Nintendo Life and you thought you were special for buying a Switch? Did you miss all the hype since the January reveal trailer or something? What you said is about as ridiculous as someone saying 'I thought I was the only one who shopped at Wal Mart'.
No @Yasume in sight... did we chase him off?
@JubilifeRival Because insecurity about buying a Switch is already setting in. For these people, anything that isn't completely rejoiceful of Nintendo may as well be a personal attack to them. It's quite disturbing, because it's easy for someone who is not attached to Nintendo like a dog on a leash, that these people are the ones instigating negativity and personal attacks. What's even more disturbing is the poor justification of it...
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Regarding the success or failure of a console launch, I think that the sales trajectory after 3 months is a good indication of consumer reception. The Wii U hit a wall in month 3, and I'd consider that to be a failed launch. The team creating the marketing strategy for the Switch seem far more aware of the need to create sustained demand, and I'd expected to see plenty of third parties making decisions on 2018 releases for Switch around E3 this year. The PR around the console is very positive at this point, so that should help a lot.
If true, those aren't bad numbers at all!
@G-Boy Exactly the same as yesterday. The upcoming months will tell us if the Switch can keep its momentum going and I don't think it can, based on the lineup and lack of quantity. 2.4 mil is decent, but you can solely thank Zelda for that. There's literally nothing else on the horizon that people will buy a Switch for, aside from the upcoming Mario game. Casuals have their phones and tablets, the mass of PS4/PC/One gamers aren't going to buy an inferior system with crappy 3rd party support and the Nintendo fanboys have purchased it already. Especially the lack of interest by casuals is why this system isn't going to do well. We aren't living in the Wii era anymore. The casuals were the reason Wii was a success (Wii Sports and Wii Fit). They are gone this time.
My prediction is that Switch will suffer in the next 6-7 months and that Mario will give it a decent boost again during the holidays. 5 - 5.5 mil by the end of the year.
That's nice. I did expect the Switch to outdo the Wii U and it seems like that's more likely than ever, now ^_^
I just saw a local news station here in memphis stating how well the Switch has sold. The last time this station covered Nintendo tendo, the Wii was out. I'm telling you, the folks who loved the Wii knew nothing of the Wii U. To a lot, this is Nintendo's NEXT system AFTER the Wii. Nintendo rarely marketed the Wii U within commercials and I can tell say that I'veseen a hundred times more Switch commercials. Nintendo is going all in with this one and it's definitely paying off.
@BiasedSonyFan "People have the right to post their opinions."
Uh, no they don't. On Nintendolife and pretty much every website, posting comments is a privilege that you have so long as you follow general guidelines. You could maybe argue whether or not a group of people trash talking about other users is enough to count as flaming or abuse, which is against the guidelines. But I'd argue it's extremely petty and immature regardless.
@Yasume Thank God, I'm glad you're here to post a negative comment to dispel imbalance in the universe once more. The echoing chants of "DEATH TO THE NINTENDOOMERS" was making me think I accidentally walked into a secret cult meeting.
I had a dream once, about being a cult hunter in ancient Mesopotamia, or somewhere like that. I think the guy got killed after going down to a cult's sewer hideout. Bummer.
@BiasedSonyFan No, I'm attempting to discourage "freedom from speech."
@BiasedSonyFan And... When did I do that?
@Crono1973 Why do you take it so serious? You dont want me to be special right?^^ I didnt know 2.4 million people or more have an account at NL and bought a switch. And yeah maybe there was hype (im surfing NL of course there was hype) still i had the feeling i was the first of not THAT many. 2.4 in a month is definetely a large number. This is why i said i (thought) i was special (at least in that regard). Sry for not having your nintendo wisdom.
@BiasedSonyFan You don't get to decide that negative comments means somebody just doesn't like Nintendo at all, especially when these users do express positive opinions too. Judging by your other comments, you also don't know what freedom of speech is. For future reference, it's not justification for a mob jumping on another user for things he or she hasn't even said yet and isn't here to defend themselves. You don't want discussion, you're just looking to slam someone and start arguments, which looks an awful lot like trolling to me.
@JaxonH It does have some bearing on the system, as we learned with the Wii U. Less sales means Nintendo will probably spend less money on developing games, which means less fun for us.
@Al_Godoy
Exactly. It is far beyond clear yet if this is a phenomenon like the Wii so games in the Summer and over the holidays will make the difference.
I personally think that it is on the cusp of being a lasting hit. That's just based on sales, my own evaluation of the core concept, and also on anecdotal awareness across all demographics in my personal sphere. It seems that significantly more people I know - peers, parents, and their kids - are aware and interested in the Switch than even knew what the Wii U was. The web seems to echo the trend I'm seeing personally.
I also think; however, that the novelty- and Best-Game-Of-All-Time-effect are obscuring any ability to predict a long-term trend. I think these two factors shouldn't be underestimated.
As much as people hate mentions of AAA titles and third party support, I think it's necessary. Maybe not. Maybe many of you are right and first party+concept can make it a smash but I still think price-point and a wide variety of games will make it or break it.
Exciting times!
So how's everyone doing? We all having fun?
The next six months will tell us more than the first one. On the whole, I'm sensing a more positive vibe and interest in the Switch than the Wii U.
@BiasedSonyFan I'm saying you should be able to post your opinions without attacking other users. It shouldn't be very hard to just disagree with what somebody posts, when they actually post something you disagree with.
The ironic thing; what you just said in your previous comment is exactly what others here are attempting to do to other users.
@BigBadJohn I think everyone is having a jolly good time.
@Yasume while I disagree with you all most every time, you do make some valid criticisms every now and then. This is a Nintendo fan site after all. I always look forward to your comments. It adds to the conversations. Haters are always going to hate. So keep doing what your doing and I hope you are wrong.😀
@Nintendoer
Sure. And again, I wish it well. But whether it sells like Wii or Wii U, it's gonna have Nintendo's games regardless. Which are the biggest reason to own the system. Well, that's less true now that it's portable, but still. Either way, it isn't gonna get ton a of 3rd party support. And even if it doesn't do well, it'll get 3rd party support for at least the first year or two.
Meaning it's not worth getting in a tizzy over. What happens happens. Do I wish them well? Absolutely. Do I want to see it successful so that it gets a few extra games it otherwise wouldn't have? Of course.
But either way, it's gonna be a great system. Either way, it's gonna have great games. Either way, we have no control over the future so no sense worrying about something you can't alter or change.
Like I said, what happens happens. Glad to see it do well, but it's not really gonna make much difference either way. Perhaps get a few more games people will ignore and not buy anyways, that's about it. I see Skyrim in the interest polls sitting next next to Wonderboy Dragons Trap, like yep, this thing could sell 100 million and people still won't give 3rd party games the time of day, even if they're on par with Zelda.
@BiasedSonyFan Nothing in any of my replies to you comes anywhere close to a personal attack. But I believe that you know that anyways.
@BiasedSonyFan Sorry for the misunderstanding. To spell it out, it's a running joke now for me to give... Those kinds of unconventional responses to Yasume, just to see how he responds. He somehow misinterpreted me the last time, to hilarious results. (Well, hilarious to me, anyways. ) So it's a bit of fun for me!
I do agree with the reptilian car salesman's point, though. It's getting pretty silly to see a mass of people now preemptively reacting with feverish ardor to other people's reactions. Reminds me a little too much of schoolyard cliches.
@PlywoodStick I'm with you on 7-8 mil being reasonable. The 20mil number floating around was a complete misunderstanding of that other article/announcement that said they were hoping to manufacture 20 mil and see sales of 10 mil. Nintendo does tend to aim a bit high sometimes, but I think 10 mil is achievable if they have an ace up their sleeve for the holiday season. Based on what we know now 7-8 is much more reasonable.
@JaxonH Hat tip to you. You're one of the most consistent and reasonable people here and I often find myself agreeing with all or most of your opinion. I also enjoy seeing @PlywoodStick's perspective, even when I disagree.
@JaxonH I think we will get a lot of vita developers jumping to the switch but I doubt that's the third party support a lot of people here are hoping for. For I say bring on the rpg and Japanese action titles. I'm ready.
I tend to be quite impatient, but that's all one can call upon when wanting to see how the Switch's future turns out. If it goes well, I hope people will consider them as a strong contender for their money, even those who would previously only consider PS4/Xbox One/PC, and if it goes wrong, well, then at least I hope all that great IP will be put to good use.
@NoxAeturnus
Appreciate it.
I think it's hypocritical to preach sales meaning little in the Wii U era, then go all spastic as soon as there's a glimpse of success with Switch. If a person truly believes what they said all last gen, about a console's worth being it's games and not it's sales figures, then stand by it now too in the face of success.
But I get both sides of the argument. Wii U proved that even in a worst case scenario, Nintendo systems (unlike competing consoles) will see a full spread of quality 1st party games to its dying breath. Which assures me (unlike Vita and PSVR) that when I buy a Nintendo console, I'm not gonna get shortchanged or abandoned significantly prematurely. At the same time, success does bring more games. But without people buying and supporting those games, even mass success can't guarantee long term 3rd party support. And at this point I'm convinced that people by and large simply will not pay attention to 3rd party games. So all that talk about success bringing more games doesn't really hold much water when those games don't have a reliable audience to sell to.
@faint
Well, let's hope a significant portion of Vita owners adopt the Switch. Because as it stands, there's little to no audience for those games. I Am Setsuna isn't even in the top 20 best sellers for the eShop when even old NeoGeo games are in the list. If Square sees their games being ignored wholesale, it won't take long for them to scadaddle.
We need people outside of the Nintendo fanbase to buy Switch. It's the only way these games will find an audience to sell to.
@BiasedSonyFan The comment section is for discussion, not attacking others.
" I kinda feel bad for Nintendoomers like Sliggy; they're going to have a hard time spinning this without abandoning every semblance of objectivity."
"According to Yasume infinite knowledge this doesn't mean squat sway."
"Don't forget Sligeach_Eire in fact, where are they when you need some skepticism?"
These comments and more are not related to discussion at all. These are needless digs at other users that hadn't even posted under this article yet. I've expressed my disapproval of such actions. In doing so, and in replying to you, I have not once you or others in the same way.
You seem to make the claim that me voicing my disapproval is somehow an attempt to shut down conversation, which is ironic because I would rather actually see conversation about the article, as opposed to users simply attacking other users. Do you really feel that such an activity has value for this website, and that it is needed?
@JaxonH
Very true, if the switch gets the vita mob, myself included then Japanese niche games will sell loads, afterall that's why we own a vita, we can't get enough Japanese games. It will take time for vita owners to jump on board, but if niche Japan games come then so will we. Western games and some Ninty developed games could swing it for me but niche Japan games then am all in
"Switch is just a tablet. It won't sell,. It needs more AAAAAAAAAAAAA western games. Nintendo should go 3d party"
One month later: more than 2 million consoles sold...
IN MARCH
@JaxonH I also don't think it's as simple as slap some third party games on there and the system will succeed. The nature of that third party support is critical. Hopefully, the type of 3rd party games we can expect on Switch will be more akin to 3DS than PS4, which gives Switch more value since they'd be hitting a different market. If it tips more towards the Wii-shovelware side of the 3rd party spectrum, that would be a disaster. Thus I hope Switch is successful enough to draw developer attention, but not so successful that everyone wants to dump something on it in hopes of taking advantage of an insane install base. My hope is that 3rd parties pull a Nintendo and move their mobile/3DS teams onto Switch, because I agree that by and large people won't pay attention to big 3rd party tech spec wars on a Nintendo platform, because the obvious home for those is on other consoles or PC, but well-made niche titles could be big hits on Switch in the years to come. It's too early to tell how it's going to turn out, but I'm cautiously optimistic.
@NoxAeturnus " because I agree that by and large people won't pay attention to big 3rd party tech spec wars on a Nintendo platform, because the obvious home for those is on other consoles or PC"
I respectfully disagree with this notion, since people seem to have a definite interest in playing high-quality console titles on the go. What you mentioned would go against, what I perceive as one of Switch's core philosophies. I may be wrong in that regard, but I think Nintendo would want those games on Switch as well.
@UmniKnight
I think the type of people who play western AAA care more about graphical fidelity than portability. I certainly don't, and I'm absolutely stoked for Skyrim, but judging by most Nintendo fans they just ignore western AAA, and the gamers from other consoles ignore lower end graphics, which results in neither demographic giving a hoot. It's a shame, truly. We'll see though. If even a few million core PS/Xbox gamers adopted, and a few million Nintendo fans opened themselves to the prospect of playing something different, a large enough market could emerge for those games.
@NintySnesMan
Looking back at Wii U, there was like 3 RPGs on the entire system. Switch does seem to be in a position where it's starting to get those games- I Am Setsuna, Fate Extella, Dragon Quest XI, Shin Megami Tensei V, Disgaea 5, etc. But the sooner the Vita fanbase adopts the better, cause without them these games won't continue to come for long. It's gonna take a leap of faith from Vita owners so that there's actually an audience there to buy the games. Hopefully, Nintendo's own games and just the appeal of the system's versatility in general, and the evidence JRPGs will continue to come (if there's people who buy them) will be enough to take that leap of faith. I'd hate to see these developers putting these types of games on the system saying "more where this came from if people want it" and then no one buys them and they pull out, and we lose what could have been a spanning library of Japanese games.
@NoxAeturnus
I agree with that.
@JaxonH I am but one person who owns a Switch and plays Nintendo games, so there's little difference I alone can make, but what I can I will. I've played those third-parties that were interesting to me, both on Wii, Wii-U and those coming to Switch look very interesting, and I'll soon get a little more in terms of financial capabilities, so I'll buy more of them as well. Many of the JRPGs (to name a genre example) gracing the system will be a must-buy on my list, and I may not buy Skyrim because I own it on my PC, but there are those out there who love the idea of a portable Skyrim and would buy it again for that, not to mention the potential in Nintendo lending their IP to mods in the game. (Link in Skyrim for example, if mods are a thing of course)
Sadly, I've not an inkling of how many people think like I do, considering specifically that I already deviate from the norm. I'm also rather out of touch with people who place graphics above anything else, as I've come to value gameplay far above graphics, hence why I've got nearly 400 hours in Spellforce: Platinum Edition. But I would reckon that people who buy a console, any console, do so for the great games that grace it, I mean why would one otherwise buy a console? And if Nintendo, in cooperation with third-parties, provides a great line-up, strong enough to have even those so loving their current consoles consider it, then I can't see how those third-party triple A games don't have a place in all of it.
@PlywoodStick
Well I figured out why negative comments and commenters are being attacked.
All of these people posting comments attacking other posters who show negativity towards Nintendo are none other than a single sentient self aware R.O.B. unit with multiple accounts at Nintendo Life.
Even if I might be wrong, I will forever hold this belief.
What if this data only showed that there are 2.2 million rabid Zelda fans and the remaining .2 million people made up the rest? What if most of the people who wanted one got one already?
@UmniKnight
"But I would reckon that people who buy a console, any console, do so for the great games that grace it, I mean why would one otherwise buy a console"
You'd be surprised.
Had a PS4 gamer who loved Disgaea, and I was saying hey, now you can play your favorite game anywhere when Disgaea 5 drops on Switch! His response was "oh, I could never play a console in 1080p now (mind you PS4 Pro had barely been out a few months, and not all games are even compatible- in fact I don't even think Disgaea 5 is so it's 1080p even on PS4). I think it's ridiculous myself, but so many people are graphics snobs nowadays, or have developed a strict loyalty to one brand, and will dismiss any other system regardless of how appealing it is.
Fortunately there's still a lot of gamers out there who go where the games are. Good, unbiased people who don't care about console wars or super high end visuals only. I mean, I have a PS4 Pro, I have a PC with 4K. But that doesn't stop me from playing 3DS, or Switch, or Vita, or Wii U. And most normal people who game- people who don't care enough to go to fansites... those people don't care. Ironically, you'd think all the people who care so much about graphics would be all over Switch, since it's the most powerful portable gaming device ever created. But that just speaks to the fact that I think there's an underlying reason they are not interested, and it's not the graphics. I think it's just brand loyalty.
@greengecko007 Let's see...you just critiqued my comment for being unrelated to the discussion in a comment unrelated to the discussion. Please tell me you get the irony. And be aware that when you defend Sliggy and his negativity that it includes believing that owning a Wii U is like being the victim of domestic violence.
@PanurgeJr
" And be aware that when you defend Sliggy and his negativity that it includes believing that owning a Wii U is like being the victim of domestic violence."
That's hysterical.
@Priceless_Spork No, it's a comparison he once enthusiastically accepted. Of course he claimed he didn't actually believe it, that it was just an analogy, and that I should lighten up. What do you think? Should people lighten up when others joke about domestic violence?
@PanurgeJr No, I'm fully aware that so much derailed conversation is also not relevant to actually discussing the contents of the article. That's just the nature of the beast though. Meanwhile, your comments about another user you aren't even conversing with currently are still unwarranted, and disturbing. Really? Domestic violence?
@BiasedSonyFan No, nobody has "rights" to comment on this website. Nobody has to agree with what others post either, but I wish that it didn't devolve simply into mobbing against those we have had disagreements with in the past.
@PanurgeJr
Are you worried sliggy will come to your house and beat you?
@JaxonH I don't get the graphics mentality. If the game has the best graphics ever, but crap gameplay, what do those graphics still matter? Might as well just watch a movie at that point.
If I had enough disposable income, I'd gladly own all 3 major systems including PC, but therein lies the most limiting and problematic factor, doesn't it? It's not having enough to buy all major consoles AND all the games/accessories/subscriptions, and that's why people use brand loyalty to justify their purchases.
@greengecko007 Actually yes, really. Sliggy has made that comparison. But at least it was relevant to the discussion, so that should make it less disturbing to you.
@Priceless_Spork Like at the end of Jay and Silent Bob? Hardly.
@UmniKnight
"It's not having enough to buy all major consoles AND all the games/accessories/subscriptions, and that's why people use brand loyalty to justify their purchases"
Wow. Think you nailed it.
@PanurgeJr I usually disapprove of such comparisons, but I also don't hold grudges and talk smack about people that aren't here just because they did something I disapproved of a long time ago.
@UmniKnight "Sadly, I've not an inkling of how many people think like I do, considering specifically that I already deviate from the norm. I'm also rather out of touch with people who place graphics above anything else, as I've come to value gameplay far above graphics, hence why I've got nearly 400 hours in Spellforce: Platinum Edition."
I'm with you. For those who prioritize graphics, Switch isn't an attractive proposition because portability may or may not matter. If the same game released on PS4 Pro and Switch, they'd pick up the Pro version. That's why Nintendo has no hope of attracting those gamers, because Switch's system specs aren't comparable and those games are less likely to come to the system as a result.
However, there are a large number of people for whom portability is a big deal. To be clear, I'm not suggesting Switch should have been a full portable, the hybrid is a major selling point--I want to be able to play on the TV. Aside from the Nintendo faithful, they have a strong possibility of attracting those gamers (casual or hardcore) if there are enough captivating games. My point was that the 3DS is a prime example of that strategy working out with 3rd parties, and it could work out again on Switch even if there was very little (or no) crossover between Switch's game library and PS4's.
The target audience of PS4 is generally more of the first type of gamer, while the target audience of Switch is generally the second type. I know lots of people that have a PS4 and a 3DS, and they're looking at Switch and saying, "It's just like having a secondary portable, just like my 3DS, except that this time I can also display it on my TV? Sold!"
@PanurgeJr
" And be aware that when you defend Sliggy and his negativity that it includes believing that owning a Wii U is like being the victim of domestic violence."
"No, it's a comparison he once enthusiastically accepted. Of course he claimed he didn't actually believe it, that it was just an analogy, and that I should lighten up. What do you think? Should people lighten up when others joke about domestic violence?"
Hey now, I don't even own a WiiU.
@greengecko007 I don't hold a grudge; I just really enjoy it. "I'm so funny to me," as a friend of mine likes to put it. But I also like letting everyone else who is tired not just of his negativity but its unrelenting repetition that they are not alone. Why do you think so many people preempted him?
@JaxonH Main question is, how if at all, do you even solve that? One would have to trust in people's (un)common sense to not lose themselves in their need for said justification.
I stick to PC and Nintendo, but I've had plenty of moments during which I'd think that, perhaps, PS4/Xbox has the better line-up for me, especially during the Wii-U period. But Nintendo's IP has it's tendrils deep, hence why I stick with their hardware.
@Jhena So you didn't really think you were the only one, right?
I honestly believe that the Switch can get to 10m by the end of 2017, is already almost at 3m and the hype is still strong with ppl doing crazy big lines at Nintendo NY store and my local stores selling their stock in mere hours. If you count there is still 9 months including April which this figures doesn't include so if Nintendo sells 1m per month it can reach and surpass the 10m mark for 2017 which quite frankly doesn't seem so far fetch.
@BiasedSonyFan
"The poster asked a yes or no question. You didn't answer it.
Yes or no?"
Also hysterical.
Here's what I heard in goofy voices when you said that: "No one can escape the Spanish Inquisition!!!! or maybe, "Ve hav vays to make you talk!!!"
or Moe from the stooges, " Here give him this truth serum. Glug Glug GLug Now Talk you maroon!!!
@Priceless_Spork You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
@PanurgeJr
I'm fine with it. I hear it has multiple meanings.
@Crono1973 Regarding the purchase of the switch of course not. And i didnt say i was the only one purchasing a switch. Also its still possible to feel special when the number of purchasers aint that high. Well as i said that feeling is gone now.
@Jhena My problem is, I dislike hyperbole.
@JaxonH I think the bigger issue is the lack of switches available. It's still a niche title. I think it will sell well enough for square. Dragon Quet heroes is another matter. It bombed super hard in Japan so the rest of the world will have to make up for it when it gets localized.
@Priceless_Spork Philosophers have been trying to explain meaning for millennia; it's unfair of you to expect someone to do it in a comment thread.
@NoxAeturnus But when you consider what the Switch offers, I mean it's a good screen, and really how much higher do you feasibly want to go with graphics? If it doesn't look blurry or outright ugly, it's good right? At least, that's what I would think.
And when you think about it, proverbially slapping eachother around for exclusives is about the only thing MS and Sony do, and that's what it mostly comes down to: The exclusive. I remember that people spoke of how many players, who didn't own a Wii-U, were upset with how Bayonetta 2 was exclusive to it, and personally, with most third-party games coming to Steam/PC as well, I see less and less need to own a PS4/Xbox One.
I'm more of a home-console gamer, and the Switch is the successor of the Wii-U, not the 3DS for me. But for the third-party line-up, couple with those beloved franchises, I will stick with Nintendo and buy overlapping games on PC, as most exclusives on the competition do not interest me.
@PanurgeJr
You fool! Now Plywood Stick will try it.
@Crono1973 Well thats your problem. And i think the irony is you seem to be exaggerating with my comment. As i stated " i (thought) i was special to purchase/buy a switch" means i stopped to exaggerate. Makes no sense to me to attack me if i changed my opinion to a more reasonable one. Making your comment the hyperbole.
@Rexx
So am I, but... Dammnnn...
You screw up just a little bit, and wham. The entire bloody comment thread is after your giblets. They want you dead.
I have thought about moving to NintendoEverything multiple times now. Not sure why I keep sticking around.
@Jhena IMO, thinking you are special for buying a console that many people were hyped about (and you knew it) is hyperbole. You are basically saying 'I am surprised that I was not the only one or one of the few to buy this thing' when you knew it would sell very well based on your membership here. Shifting gears, do you know why I hate hyperbole? It's because there are so many 'best game ever!' people. They are extremely susceptible to hype. Did you know that Skyrim was the best game ever 5 months before it came out? Did you not see that same BS with Breath of the Wild? Time passes and people come to their senses and start to talk about the imperfections. Hype drives false sales and hype, at it's core is often a lie. 'Best game ever' is worthless when you apply it to a second game and the type of people who do this don't usually limit it to one game. 'Best game ever' usually just means that they fell prey to another marketing dept and 'ever' only stands until they fall prey the next time. It's interesting how hype is ok in any amount but anti-hype is rarely tolerated.
@Jhena @Crono1973
I have a feeling you are both special.
@Priceless_Spork Priceless contribution.
@CrazedCavalier
Yasume will be back to proclaim Nintendoom when the Switch experiences a normal sales decline in April and May.
@Crono1973 Your words "I am surprised that I was not the only one or one of the few to buy this thing' when you knew it would sell very well based on your membership here".
Your exaggerating the meaning of this site (which i like very much^^). Of course they try to hype the system. How should i (know) the switch would be a success based on a nintendo fan site?
I know im special but not that kind of special that my membership on a nintendo site makes the switch a success.^^ Again this is a nintendo fan site. Fans hype the system. Doesnt mean the system will be succesful. At the time there were also many negative views of the switch. Even on this site. Actually i had sometimes the feeling that nl was kind of a haven compared to the rest of the world. Still even here were many negative news at the time.
As you say hype is often a lie. So why should i have believed the hype at the time. I try to be reasonable most of the time. And as i stated im still not ompletely sold on the success. At least not to wii levels. Failing as the only handheld on the market should be hard^^
@Priceless_Spork I take it as a compliment. So thanks. You can also be special. Its easy. Just be yourself.
@Jhena Good post, the only thing I have to say is that while it's true that hype is often a lie, it also drives sales. I don't know if you are a member of Neogaf, r/Nintendo, The Escapist or any other gaming forum but the hype was everywhere. Anyway, have a good day.
@Crono1973
Kinda picked really bad examples there. Both Skyrim and Zelda BotW actually are among the best games ever made. I've got a whole list of the best games I've ever played, across all consoles. It's a big list 😄
@faint
Hope you're right.
@JaxonH Both Skyrim and Zelda BotW actually are among the best games ever made. Maybe they are (opinions vary) but calling them that BEFORE THEY LAUNCHED is nothing but BS hype.
@greengecko007 That ScurgeJr is a liar, he continues to spout that nonsense about domestic abuse. I've reported him again for it. I NEVER said any such thing. ScurgeJr is a troll. Have a look through his comments and you'll see what his biggest obsession is with on this site. This is where someone made the remark.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/02/nintendo_download_16th_february_europe
Specifically @Menchi187, but he wasn't condoning it either.
@Crono1973
Oh, sure. Gotta play it first to judge. I'll be honest though. I had a feeling Breath of the Wild was going to be great just from the gameplay I saw. You could tell it was a special game. But yeah until you play it it's just a hunch.
@JaxonH Agreed.
@Gridatttack Where did they make that promise?
@JaxonH Yes, I completely agree. I believe that people should just stay out of the business portion of game companies and look more into the, well, games.
@Crono1973 No just nintendo life and i read many news on 4players and a little bit jimquisition since a week or two. At the time i also read many negative news on sites i normally dont visit at all. But i believe you that you saw the hype everywhere.
The trick i make now for myself is translating the hype of best game ever to the possibility of it being a good game is good. Or at least above average. Also the hype has to be real some time after release. So yeah hype is maybe more an exaggeration than a lie.
Wish you also a good day.
Wow, this has derailed into a mess. A related mess, but nonetheless a mess.
This is an Internet Nintendo fan forum. Lighten up.
@greengecko007 So @SLIGEACH_EIRE remembers the thread well enough to find it and link to it, and yet his comment doesn't appear. It's almost like he conveniently deleted it before showing you. Believe who you will.
@Nintendoer You should have seen the Playtonic/JonTron thread. It devolved into, among other things, white nationalism and anti-transgenderism.
@greengecko007 I never deleted anything. Fact. I don't know if the mods can back that up. They deleted a couple of posts as ScurgeJr caused a mess as usual. Like he is now. I'm done here. Like I said the guy's a troll and not worth my time.
@greengecko007 I'm so funny to me.
@Priceless_Spork @PanurgeJr Oh my God. It all makes sense now. The reason why everyone is scared of Ol' Sliggy is because... He is the All-Father in disguise.
Odin slept with pretty much everyone's wives back in the day. Which means everyone with Norse ancestry (lots and lots of Europeans) is descended from Odin. He was also known for domestic abuse when his orders weren't obeyed. Ragnarok was even started over Surt starting a flame war because he had enough of that bunk.
No one wants to get a house call from Mah Sligga for a good old fashioned pimp slapping. Because everyone knows if that happens, their Switch will go limp, and be forced to use the waxy, dirty Wii U's that are left in their place.
And indeed, this teaches us about the meaning of meaning. Everyone's tush yearns for answers. But when one's tush is hurt, their meaning becomes the mean of their overall meanness. From one tush, to the next. The mean of meanness spreads, and the meaning paradoxically changes with it.
Indeed, it is not that meaning cannot be explained, but rather that is refrained from study. There is an answer. Study your tush. Study the tush of others. Discuss how the tush feels under the duress of it's meaning.
Do not shy away from the tush. Understand it with your senses. Sight, Hearing, Smell, Touch, Taste. Well, maybe not that last one. You probably shouldn't kiss someone's tush. And if you smell it, you're a wacko. Well, nevermind, just talk about it.
See, that wasn't so hard. A happy tush is an understood tush. Or an understood tush is a happy tush. That works too.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Shouldn't that be "SCurgeJr"?
@SLIGEACH_EIRE "no changing weapon set in lobby" how do you know this?
@NoxAeturnus Indeed. It would be pretty creepy if the entire world were an echo chamber full of people who look, sound, feel, smell, and taste like you. Especially that last one. I don't want any part of that. And not you specifically, but anyone in general. Not that I'm complimenting you on that either. Wow, I'm really trapping myself in a corner on this one.
@PlywoodStick - Hmmm, nope.
I don't think you understand what "salt" means in it's pop-cultural rhetorical context.
If anything, it seems right now the Switch Nintendoomers are the ones deploying truckloads of salt and somehow still managing to come off as self-righteous as the news seems to contradict the certainty of their dire predictions.
What separates a troll from a legitimately opinionated person that is simply cautiously and frequently negative, is the inability to ever admit they were wrong or concede a point.
Concession, compromise, and reason do not elicit angry responses or continued attention the same way that stubborn and overwhelming negativity regardless of the facts will.
@Action51 Have you seen the history of certain participants' interactions, and considered that perhaps multiple parties partake of the salt? Merely blaming others won't solve the recipe for a salt solvent. Instead, it tends to bring about plenty of iron. Your post is laden with spinach.
@Action51 Skimming the thread yep.
I'll make a prediction, provided the Switch continues to sell great the "concern" over its future success will morph into bitter resentment. We'll start to see people argue that success is not deserved or illegitimate as the methods Nintendo is attaining that success aren't the way they want them to be.
@dimi the constraint is not demand, its supply. Lots of people want to buy one and still cannot. If 99% of Switches hitting the shelves (virtual and physical) immediately sell, lowering the price wouldn't change the number of units sold.
@Dr_Lugae You say, "Here comes The Sun... Here comes The Sun!" And I say, "It's alright."
@PlywoodStick All hail Odin, the All Father.
@PanurgeJr Being a pagan is tough, but someone's gotta do it! I hope that Mississippi Moon keeps shining on you.
@greengecko007 Jesus people are really that upset about my comment? Man it was just in jest.What?We can't poke fun at anyone anymore? Are we that sensitive?
But i do find it cute many people on here are saying "This is so immature" yet those same people were cheering on a certain user (that's on this comment section right now) attacking slig. But that's just me.
@Captain_Toad IGN. It was from the testfire. They're hoping that they'll change it before launch. It's silly and annoying to have to back out of a lobby to do something so simple. It's been a common feature on other shooters for years.
Good going so far but games make a console. I'm really excited for E3 as I'm certain Nintendo will have some cool surprises for the Switch up its sleave. Super excited for Wonderboy the Dragons Trap this week.
I came to the comment section for opinions on 2.4 million sold but I got drama.
I'm not sure if they going hit 7 millions if they don't make enough to meet the demand before the Switch fad go away.
@Priceless_Spork @PanurgeJr @PlywoodStick @BiasedSonyFan
It's always a treat to see one of you comment, whether it's PanurgeJR's undying hatred to Slig, BiasedSonyFan taking a comment way too seriously, Priceless Spork's sarcasm, or PlywoodStick's jokes. All four make a perfect storm in one comment section.
The Switch and BOTW have already affected many gamers PS4 purchases. HORIZON has been put on the back burner for many people. It just shows that many gamers are hungry for Nintendo Polish and gameplay. I think the Switch is going to crush the Scorpio this holiday season.
@AlwaysGreener We're like a string quartet that way, each having a unique voice that harmonizes beautifully with the others.
I don't wear hats, but I'll go buy one and eat one if it hits 7 million by end of the year. Switch launched with less 3rd party support than the Wii U did. I'm not sure what anyone is expecting, current 3rd party support isn't going to happen, it'll be old ports (ala Rayman, which IS a great game that I'd rebuy if it had 4 new music levels). Realistically it's the best Zelda game since OoT that is pushing sales.
Thanks for as always fighting the good fight @JaxonH So many times you saved me from logging in to try to be a voice of reason as you have already done it. I liked my Wii U, and I'm sure I'll like my Switch as well. Nintendo has yet to let me down (but they sure have annoyed me a lot) because I've kept my expectations reasonable.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
My thoughts are much the same — my mates are asking me what it's like and if they shouldn't get one, and to that im saying... well, why not hold off until later in the year when the library is stronger?
Having said that, three people I know have bought one just because Zelda... which is the total amount of people i know with a WiiU, so I'd say it's off to a pretty alright start
@AlwaysGreener If you think about it, we represent the four elements.
PanurageJR - Fire (by the searing light of the moon shining in the night)
BiasedSonyFan - Earth (rock solidly ironic name, while focusing on the big questions)
Priceless_Spork - Water (deftly adjusts to the flow of the conversation on the table)
PlywoodStick - Wind (whimsically dancing on and around the issues)
With our powers combined, we are...
A derailed comment section!
@PlywoodStick - uhm what?
So wait...it's okay for you to point at one group and declare their over-abundance of sodium output when defending a specific board user...
But when I suggest the reverse may be true, I'm failing to point to all parties that may be guilty and therefore It's dismissed as ironic or hypocritical?
Is that what you're trying to say here?
I'm actually not 100% clear on the point you're trying to make.
@PanurgeJr Oh, I did see it. And I commented nearly the same thing. It was even worse than this.
@PlywoodStick These four elements lived in harmony, until the Fire Nation attacked.
@PlywoodStick @Priceless_Spork thanks for injecting some humor into this comment section. way too much hostility here
I remember a comment of mine about eating my hat if the Switch is a success. Whilst it's still too early to conclude on the matter, I best start looking into chocolate hats.
From a personal point of view, I won't be buying a Switch until at least Mario Odyssey and Skyrim are out for it. Doesn't look like they'll be a price drop anytime soon if these sales keep up.
@Nintendoer LOL it's so true! The Fire Nation attacked the Water Nation, the Earth Nation got pissed and started throwing lolzrocks, and the Wind Nation let out a collective fart and wondered why so many bean burritos were part of their diet.
@tedko
@BiasedSonyFan It's just sometimes you take some comments too seriously. I'm guilty of the same thing. I hope you don't take my comment as an insult, since it's just friendly observation.
@Action51 A little sodium is needed to maintain our sanity. The compound of Salt, however, is achieved through mixing sodium with chlorine. If the chlorine is extracted, toxicity spreads wildly. It is neutralized by keeping it bound to the sodium. So we just have different ways of looking at it. At this point, I prefer to get the whole story from all sides, and let poisoned remarks be contained. It's a lot easier than trying to change the chemistry to destroy the poison entirely, which can have unintended side effects.
@BiasedSonyFan It's a free internet. (I hope) People can say whatever they want, just don't be surprised to see a rainbow of responses.
Let's hope it continues the momentum! We'll have to see how Mario Kart 8 does now, it was one of the best sellers in the Wii U!
@NewAdvent Even if sales slow down come autumn (and why would they with Fire Emblem Warriors, NBA 2K18, Skyrim, Runner 3 and Sonic Mania very different games from 4 very different genres) they'll pick right back up starting Black Friday, between Christmas purchases and people just wanting to play Mario Odyssey, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, and Sonic Forces. That's the beauty of the March release diehards like me already have a Switch so now those that would only buy it as a Christmas gift or when there are more BIG GAMES might actually be able to get their hands on a system (at least I hope Nintendo produces enough to meet demand soon).
@PlywoodStick - eh...nice dodge and diffusion I guess?
You basically came in accusing one group of people of getting salty over a particular poster, then claimed it was ironic for me to point out that the actual salt seemed to be coming from the Nintendoomers in this particular instance ( seeing as how the initial news is very far from the dire predictions).
Now it's all about the integrity of hearing "both sides", but I really don't see how that applies to this situation.
@Grudgebearer
I agree. Personally, I think the debut of the Scorpio is going to show everybody just how insignificant the graphics debate will eventually become in the future.
People are fine with games that run 30/60fps 1080p. I still can't see the difference between 4K and 1080p. But yes, gameplay is king.
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