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Might work pretty well with Super Mario 64 DS! But...that's about all I can think of... XD

I want Twilight Princess HD bad. Skyward Sword I could easily go without.

Yeah, probably going to break and finally buy Toki Tori 2. All those 10% discounts didn't do it for me, but this is too good to pass up.

@wombatkidd I have more examples than those, but I don't find that this is worth my time. I have the right to my opinion, and I don't need to keep defending it to feel good about myself. I'd rather just walk away.

Also, my points being wrong is up for debate. I don't feel anyone has proven anything. Well, maybe except that people on Nintendo Life have a ZERO TOLERANCE policy for criticism against Nintendo and will niggle away at you until they think they've "won".

@JtotheY Seriously! The weirdest part is how they pretty much abandoned the Wii for the last two years of its life. Everyone assumed that it was because they were focusing whole-heartedly on Wii U. But then the Wii U comes and we get cheap Mario games, and games that were originally going to be on Wii or look like they should be on the 3DS instead. It's like, what have they been DOING for the last three years???

@FineLerv Wow, you're kind of a jerk, huh?

@Ernest_The_Crab Pikmin 3 would not have been quite as good if they'd kept it on Wii. But if they'd been on top of things and hadn't put it off for years and years, by now we'd have Pikmin 4 on our Wii U. To be completely honest I'd rather have a really good game every few years than a slightly better game every NINE. (And all in all Pikmin 3 actually seems rushed to me, with only decent graphics and not a lot of content, but that's beside the point.)

Look, you can argue each and every game I mention, but you're not changing my opinion.

@Ernest_The_Crab Regardless of the nature of this one game, my statement still stands.

@LDXD I completely agree that taking a lot of time on games is what makes a lot of Nintendo games amazing. I just think that they could go a little faster with better management and not sacrifice quality. Like I said, they just need to tighten things up a bit. Plenty of other developers are putting out fantastic, polished games in no time at all. But Nintendo is just a little too lax when it comes to release dates.

@Ernest_The_Crab But funded, published and released by Nintendo as a second-party exclusive title. Pretty much the same thing.

@cookiex Oy, tell me about it. I really wish they would tighten things up a bit.

I'm getting a little tired of hearing about how Nintendo starts a game on one system and ends up taking so long that they bring it to the next system instead. We just end up getting a ton of games that take forever to release and that don't fully utilize a system's graphical power. (Pikmin 3 and Twilight Princess, to name a few.)

I wanted to wait until the level editor was released to get this.

But 40% off.....

I know I'm in the minority, but I really did not mind the stuff that they're "fixing" in WWHD. Everyone thought that the Triforce quest at the end was like, the most terrible and boring thing in the universe, but I never would have even thought of it as a problem if so many people weren't so vocal about it. I love treasure hunting in the ocean, and I loved having something to spend all my rupees on, and I really didn't mind the break in the "flow" of the game. It's weird; I just really didn't mind it at all.

Same with the sailing speed. I thought it was a lot of fun, and the slow speed made it more interesting and rewarding somehow. And right when it would have gotten a little too tedious, you get the ability to warp.

But I guess if these are problem for most people, it's good that they're changing it. Though I wish I could choose to have more of this stuff the way it was before, beyond just not buying the new sail.

@TeeJay Woah, it's my birthday too! XD

@AugustusOxy I loved the game, though I was also disappointed by certain aspects of it. However, saying it's the shortest of the series is just untrue. Pikmin 1 can be beaten 100% in three or four hours. People who are rushing through 3 are reporting eight hours at least, around 20 for 100%. It's much more densely packed with obstacles and such, where 1 was just kind of like, "run around and grab them all, and you're done in one sitting."

I don't even know who this guy is, but he wears a fedora and "rants" about video games, so...I'm just going to keep on living my life now.

Psh, like he even needed to lower it! Maybe he reacted to a lot of people wondering why it was so high. If so, he's a really awesome dude.

Putting a W101 character in Smash Bros. would be a great marketing move. How many people wanted to play a Fire Emblem game after unlocking Marth and Roy? I know I did.

I'd be lying if I said I hadn't been waiting for something like this video for the last fifteen years.

I'm calling it now. 28 days from now it will finish at 36 skabillion dollars.

I've always wanted to try a Mario Vs. Donkey Kong game, so maybe I'll give this one a go. (The new one doesn't interest me at all, however.)

I'm sort of interested in Art Academy too, but I think I'd rather play a Wii U version if anything, so I think I'll wait.

Small size, a bunch of eShop credit sitting on my system, 10% back on digital purchases, earlier release...

Yup. Probably going digital on this one.

It's funny how so many people said they weren't going to buy the game/not buy it on Wii U because of the delay. That's literally the opposite of what you should do. If you really want to stick it to them, you've got to buy it on the platform it was planned for. You've got to show them that it's worth developing for. Otherwise you're just proving that their decision was a good one.

But a lot of people don't tend to understand the economics of this stuff...

I'm with him on this. I don't think I've ever had a more amazing video game experience, period. The story and atmosphere were incredible.

@Guitardude7 From Wikipedia:

"A high-definition remastering, titled The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD, will be released for Wii U on September 20, 2013 digitally and October 4, 2013 on disc."

Also, logic. How would it be worth the time and money to literally build a game from the ground up with all new code, redesigning every single aspect when you've already got the source code for the original? It would take just as long as making an all new game. And look at the footage--it's identical, apart from the new polish. Literally "remaking" the game wouldn't make sense.

@Guitardude7 I don't know why everyone seems to think this, but it was not built from the ground up. They used the game's old files and added new lighting and shading and such. They put a lot of care into improving it, but it really is a port. A "remastering," if you will. Exactly how a Bluray edition of a movie is also not a remake.

Despite being a port, I think this is the first Wii U game that actually has a lot of potential to move some systems. There are a lot of kids that aren't old enough to have enjoyed it the first time around, and to them this is just a brand new gorgeous Zelda game. I know I'd buy a Wii U to play this if I hadn't already bought one and played WW when it was released. That trailer is beyond amazing.

@Windy Why would they trade their 3DS's for 2DS's? Why don't they just turn the 3D off and keep the one with the clamshell?

@Windy I think that's a bit of an overreaction. I don't really think it's going to outsell the 3DS due to the lack of the clamshell design. And even if it did, Nintendo is stubborn--they'll keep making everything in 3D for the rest of the console's life. They can't just abandon the platform they built the system on.

@MathRaph I've heard countless people saying that it's really going to blow up this season. And I really wish I could believe them. I'm with you, Nintendo offers what I want, but most people just don't want that. It's sad.

@R_Champ I do think we'll start to see a huge rise in PC gaming this next generation. I'm sort of just waiting for it to happen. Once I can get a really nice PC for hecka cheap then all I'll need is my PC and my Nintendo system!

@MathRaph That's true, there's very little hype for the system, and without hype even a reasonable price might not cut it. I also feel like this season isn't going to be as good as everyone thinks it's going to be. I can hope, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

I don't understand how people think the fifty dollar cut wasn't quite enough. It's now $300, but it comes with a full-priced game, making it essentially $250 (which is what the Wii launched at). I think that's perfectly reasonable.

@rjejr Nintendo can be very confusing sometimes.

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@ultraraichu Seriously, I would have loved a Nintendo Direct! Nothing better than getting the news as it happens. I hate waking up to see everything already revealed.

@BossBattles One more time I'm going to have to ask you to be respectful or I'm going to report you to a moderator. We're all adults here, and being condescending is not necessary.

As for your question, the N64 launched with Super Mario 64, which was worth the price of the console alone. It was a revolution in 3D gameplay, something no one had ever seen before.

The Gamecube launched with Luigi's Mansion and saw Smash Bros. and Pikmin in the few months following. All three were some of the system's strongest games, and they all came before the year's end.

The Wii launched with a brand new Zelda game, which was significant enough to make the system worth it by itself. It also launched with Wii Sports, which was revolutionary at the time.

The Wii U launched with a 2D Mario game which was almost identical to the other three 2D Mario games we'd received in the last few years. It also launched with Nintendo Land and ZombiU, which were good, but nothing to run out and buy a system over. The next major first party release was Pikmin, which came nearly a year later.

So yes, the Wii U launch has most definitely been worse than other console launches. I was never disappointed in any of those systems, but I'm disappointed now.

@BossBattles Wow, chill, dude. No need to be snotty.

I've enjoyed it too, but there haven't been a lot of games. Both the Wii U and the 3DS launched with very few games, then later dropped in price when games finally began to come out. This is encouraging us as consumers to just wait until the games and the price drop. I've had a lot of fun with it, but if I'd waited I could have gotten an awesome Zelda-themed system for even cheaper than I paid.

Well, it's official. No one's ever going to buy a Nintendo console at launch again. I know I'm probably not.

Only 5 million? With Pokemon coming out? I was thinking more like 5 berjillian.

Most people care a lot about physical copies, but I personally think in a way this is a great step for the industry. It costs a lot of money to manufacture and ship a game in a given territory, so now that it's easier to go digital it's easier and less costly to release a game. I'm sure there have been tons and tons of games over the years that haven't come to one region or another because they didn't think they could sell enough to justify printing them. But now they can just release a game digitally and cut down on risk. I think this is a good practice, myself. I'd rather have a digital game than no game at all. If going digital means we get to have games that never would have made it over here, then that's awesome.

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They damaged everyone's trust the first time around. It's sad though, I wanted to see this thing made. Hopefully it still happens. Though I'd be pretty good with an Eternal Darkness HD if that ever happens.

@Peach64 It's not quite as good here in the US, but I'd say it's still pretty much better to get stuff online. Amazon is usually cheaper, and nearly everything has free delivery. And if you're willing to sit around for a little while you can usually find way cheaper copies online. Even a month after release you can easily score a game for ten bucks less, whereas retail always goes with the MSRP, which can take a year to drop. I don't think I've been to a Gamestop in about six years, now that I think of it...

I hear it's not the best port in the world, but holy heck, you can't go wrong for five bucks. I paid that much just for Bit Trip Beat when it first released on the Wii, and it was totally worth it.

@EarthboundBenjy Which is all exactly why I HATE EV'S. If you want to win at Pokemon, you can't have fun. Period. XD

So they spend a few months developing a game and then spend close to a year complaining about how it didn't sell well even though they admit to not giving it the time and content it needed? Remind me why they couldn't have spent this time making DLC or a sequel with a real single-player experience? These guys are weird.

I gotta hand it to you guys. You're troopers for reviewing this kind of stuff. I've lost track of how many versions of these games there are, and they're always the same, and I'm never interested. But you guys are journalists, dammit, and if there's something to report, you're there! Hats off to you for getting us all the details no matter what.

I hate how the good guy is always Red. I'd think he'd be Blue or Green and the rival would be Red. Also, I got Blue and I'm always bummed that Red was the way more popular "boy" choice (along with Charmander--and oh, look at that, he's got a Charmander).