Matter of fact I will start off easy with a 32gb card. Should need arise I will buy a 64gb card and use the 32gb card for my n3ds. Still underwhelming that you will have to invest extra money. Greedy nintendo. In fact I believe their stubborn stingyness will be their ultimate downfall
I didnt think about gamecube games... yes, I want those! at least a couple of them. Great its gonna be a 64gb card to start with. Of course I could start with a 32gb card and see where this will go. Lateron buy that 64gb card and put the 32gb into my new 3ds.
@MeloMan While I understand what you mean, I dont think it would make sense to any developer. Ubisoft made zombi u. That was an exclusive title and how did it sell? Aaa third party games will be primarily at home with ms and sony. Lets be honest which aaa games would buy on the switch if they came out? I could only think about dark souls. Maybe xcom. No ubi, ea or activision titles for me. Third parties know this and thats why they are hesitating. Imho nintendo shouldnt rely on third parties at all. They made mistakes with wii u, i would say they were complacent. If I were nintendo I wouldnt have sold rare to microsoft - what kind of a decision was that anyway. I would have bought, set up and invested in other studio so as to have a potentially large first party support. Cing was a good company imho, they went bankrupt, nintendo could have stepped in. More first party studios would have meant more games. Maybe more new ips. More experiments. But hey that sounds like a risk. Nintendo has been playing it safe in the past, apparently not taking too many risks. How can we demand risktaking from third parties if nintendo doesnt shine as an example.
Just btw its not like nintendo isnt taking risks at all. They take a lot of risks when it comes to controllers and controls. I meant aaa games and not some 1.2 switch cow milking which I think nobody had asked for and I would even come and say nobody would have ever gotten such an idea. So they indeed must be creative. Cow milking? Give me a break
@Rman12
Well, here we are different. Even though I am highly disappointed with the switch, I am still going to get it. Mario Odyssey looked fine to me, even though I dont need it day one I am certainly going to play botw. Xenoblade and fire emblem will also be games that are no brainers for me. Theres gonna be a pikmin reboot, dragon quest 11 should be fine, too. I just hope the price will drop quite soon....
However I will be very picky this time around when it comes to games. I will certainly not pick up 1,2 switch. Will have a look at arms though when its a budget title
We will see. hard to tell. The nintendo only user base is much different from sony or ms I believe. Those with xb1 or ps4 might consider nintendo as an alternative second or third console and will probably buy aaa 3rd party games for the other system and buy exclusives on the switch. People who buy only nintendo consoles arent probably that interested in many third party games. Maybe occasionally or something. I own a wii u and a 3ds, my backlog is huge. How much time is there any way to walk through a game. The older I get the less energy I have left for gaming. A game like botw will require dedication, of course I will dedicate my time to thoroughly explore this world but I cannot do that with every game that comes out. So I choose zelda over skyrim. After that its gonna be xenoblade 2 and fire emblem hopefully. Games have gotten so big in the last years that you have to decide if its really worth getting to know a new location of assassins creed. No offense, I never played that franchise. The first title seemed boring to me and at about that time I started to stay away from ubi games alltogether. Zombi u was the first title in years that I bought from ubi. Still sealed, i doubt i will ever open it.
@Thermoclorn This might be true in parts. I only but physical games. However, some games are available digital only, like zero time ir ace attorney. And there you go.
@MadAdam81 I know and thats fine with me. Its just am not gonna buy any games made by them. To me, these games are uninteresting, reiterations of the same game. Nothing special for me, but to each his own. The only game that I was actually considering a purchase was Rayman legends but then I thought I will give it a pass.
The only game I bought from Ubisoft was Zombi U - it was on sale for 10EUR two years ago. I havent unsealed it yet, maybe I will sell it. I strongly dislike companies like Ubi, Ea or Activision.
@Hotfusion I doubt there will be great AAA titles ported, maybe a select few. I think third parties know that, too. So they are cautious. Nintendo gamers are different, care about different things in gaming. Games dont need to be realistic for a nintendo gamer. The graphics must be colorful. Nintendo games have mostly a positive vibe to it. Many third party games are about gore and violence. I am not saying that this a bad thing (I would like to play dark souls!) but thats the general vibe of many games on sony and ms platforms. I liked castlevania games for gba and ds but didnt buy any for 3ds because the art style changed and it didnt appeal to me anymore.
Indeed, and it wasnt really that successful in direct comparison with the psone. Its a funny thing btw, people complain about the launch line up and possible lack of third party games, but I dont really care about third party games - they might have a negative impact on overall sales and mass market appeal. I am talking western third party games here. I am more interested in games like dark souls (which I have heard will come) and games like monster hunter or ace attorney - basically japanese third party games. I couldnt care less about games like cod or assassins creed and many others - but thats taste. People like different things in gaming. Chances are the majority of nintendo gamers have a similar taste so many will not care about mainstream third party games. I certainly wont.
@JaxonH
Any consumer can buy anything. But why the fanboyism? Dobt you think that nintendo could have done MUCH better? Wouldnt it be nice to let them know? But thats just my opinion. We will see how it will go.
There is a difference between a fan and a fanboy website. In truth both kinds are present. One is praising everything, the other speaks what is on his mind. No offense, please do enjoy your purchase and make all the world to see it. It will help nintendo and thats what matters most isnt it?
@Rman12 Thanks! Yes, that the difference between a fanboy and a nintendo fan. I dont care about fanboys and how much they justify anything nintendo does. I am fairly disappointed and hope to make at least some people see it for what it really is Guess what? I bought myself two spare wii us. Thats how crazy I am! On the other hand I cannot blame anyone. People have wanted the switch to be a success, deep down they know nintendo is not doing an amazing move here, but still they want it to be true, so people will say everythings fine and fully justified and that haters are nitpicking. Nothing could be further from the truth. Good competition only enhances business for the customers, this one is going nowhere, its not even competition, its the price of admition of being a nintendo fan or fanboy. I will buy the switch sooner or later, I am sure there will be games I dont want to miss out on but I will not confirm them in theit insolence by buying it day one. Christmas or later we will see. Fanboyism has never been so obvious imho. Be it as it may, its the family friendly atmosphere that nintendo games provide and thats what I like them for. I dont like them for anything else and thats quite sad.
I dont think there is haters on this site. Its nintendo fans who care.
As a nintendo fan I was very disappointment after watching the switch presentation and seeing nintendo committing very much the same mistakes they did in the past. But this time might be the last. They havent learnt a single lesson from past mistakes, no, they are taking it to the next level as if they were the kings of the business and people should be happy that they get a switch at all and not complain. Videogaming, over the years, has become a nintendo or nothing thing for me. I dont care about MS and Sony because I like family friendly nintendo gaming above everything. If there is no nintendo I will not continue playing video games. I would have like to continue gaming on the wii u for another couple of years, not caring about specs and stuff. But nintendo pulled the plug, they wont let me buy new games, because there arent any games coming. They had decided that the wii u was not worth producing games for. Its not any others fault but their own. But I am affected. I like playing their games but they wont give me anymore games. So, yes, in order to continue, I will buy a switch. But not day one. Probably around christmas - or maybe even later if I will be so inclined. Nintendo hasnt come up with something outstanding - gimmicks are just gimmicks - you play them for 10 minutes and then you are done. I dont care about third party support like EA, Ubi, or activision, but apparently the lack thereof might kill the switch (killswitch ). So, no, after watching that presentation my hopes for nintendo have really come down. I think its insolent, to charge ridiculous prices, not even trying to compete with MS or Sony, and expecting to be successful? Paying for online gaming? Fine! One month nes/snes rentals? Thats a joke. I dont care about free games, but I know when somebody is trying to cheap me out. They perfectly know what their competition does, and yet, they believe they are better because their nintendo? Yes, I am a nintendo fan. Or rather a fan of nintendo games. I think I dont really nintendo as a company, because they apparently dont really seem to care about their customers, their loyal fanbase. Take a look at mynintendo. I still have 150 gold coings and nothing to spend them on. Soon they will delete some of them. I dont care. I am not gonna spend them on some digital content that I already own physical. So, this is not about hate. Its about disappointment about a company. You like the games they produce but the price to pay those couple of games is getting higher and higher. There will basically be no third party support. I couldnt care less, but if the system doesnt sell, and of course, they will blame third party support and not themselves, they will pull the plug, and I will have invested lots of money in a console that was again underpowered, overpriced, didnt deliver at all, and had many, many inconveniences to put up with (at least compared to the standard of 2017 or even 2002). I am not hating, I am concerned, and most of all I am sad about what nintendo is doing. They are giving us a minimum and charging us a maximum. They make it look like a gaming revolution but havent delivered anything yet. THe more interesting titles IMHO would have been possible on the wii u as well. So should I applaud or congratulate them? For what? 300 dollars? They couldnt include a game? Just because they wanted this price tag? Come on! They are not poor! Its just corporate speech for people who believe anything they say. This is not hating - its about expressing an opinion and opening the eyes of those that dont see. Nintendos glory days are over, they really should go multiplattform and become the greatest software company in the world. The make great software but not great hardware. They should leave it to those who know what they are doing. Nintendo relies on people who are quite old. They may be experienced but they dont get the current vibes and trends otherwise they wouldnt have insulted their fasebase with their gaming revolution. The nes/snes days are long gone. Some people compare the price of the switch with the xb1 and ps4 at launch or even ps3 charging 600 dollars at launch. Do we get the same here? Do we get more? Do we get less? Can they even compete? They have become the underdogs. In order for an underdog to make an impression he has to hit hard. Make an offer that people cannot turn down. They have made an offer, once again, as if they are the holy of the gaming industry. Nintendo has been widely known for their arrogance - especially during nes days, forcing people to play by their rules. This attitude hasnt changed very much. So again, this is not hate, its more of a sadness about a company that has provided good gaming for you in the past, but the company policies/strategies and everything else besides the games leave a lot to be desired. Its like my nintendo, its there, but is anyone satisfied with it? I dont think so. But there will always be people who will defend any misstep they make. Like saying, we should be happy that there is mynintendo at all. They have the right to do whatever they want and they gave us mynintendo, they didnt need to do that, it was their good will, so we should be grateful for a couple virtual coins we may or may not find usedful, but its their because of their good will. And thats the attitude that I dislike about nintendo. They think they are great, and they know there will be loyal fans who will go for it no matter how expensive, outdated, annoying, inconvenient, umcompetitive it may be and telling us just how great it is and still there will be fanboys who will find a way to defend it. I think thats the truth here and many people know it.
Sadly I am only interested in nintendo. But I dont want to get milked and will wait as long as necessary, I think I own approx 200 games, my backlog is quite huge as well. So there is no need for me to tush.
What kind of games are nintendo fans actually interested in when it comes to third parties? I could think of dragon quest, games by atlus, level 5, maybe visual novel like 999 or ace attorney. I think dark souls is the only game that I would have loved playing but couldnt. And that is about to change! ☺
@SavoirFaire Of course they will pull a wii u. Skyrim is a great example of third party support will not work.they simply cannot bring the same quality to the switch. Skyrim for the switch might be better than the 360 version which came out in 2011 if I am correct. The ps4 got an enhanced version. Why not port the enhanced version to the switch? And btw why should people buy skyrim again? Just because they can play it on the go? I never play on the go, could be dangerous while driving a car.
@LArachelDisciple Third party is imho overrated. Third party will not sell the system as long as its available on other systems. If your friends play cod on xbox you will buy an xbox in order to play with them. As harsh as this may sound. Wii u had more third party games at launch and it didnt help. Exclusives is the key word ☺ but why should a company produce an exclusive game? Xb1 and ps4 combined have an install base that the switch might never reach. So whats the profit of making an exclusive blockbuster? Nintendo should have released the switch with zelda botw instead of the 3ds. Now they would be kings and people would be looking forward to the switch u.☺
@Yasume
I dont think it will do worse, maybe not much better but definitely not worse. Wii u might have just sold
13 million.
But theres so many 3ds gamers, especially in Japan. Many of these will definitely but it. Think about pokemon on the switch. That will be a huge jump from 240p on 3ds to at least 720p.
I think they will sell
at least 30 million in the long run, when they drop the price and deliver killer games.
@Cyberbotv2 They have definitely pushed it too far this time. Sometimes you need to make a loss first in order to make a profit. They should sell the switch at 250$ even without a game, and throw in that chargin grip. Accessoires should be cheaper by 20% and it will sell like bread. That would bring in lots of third parties. Nintendo would profit the most from a huge install base as its primary their games that sell best. AND consoles with a huge install base lasted longer (not necessarily the wii) and have still been getting games after their successors were launched. Imho its a huge installbase where they should have invested in (and specs). Right now it seems they want to make the largest profit possible with every console.
Darkest scenario imho: their plan is to drop the price pretty soon, because they cannot be so stupid as to know what I have written above. But first they take a gamble. Set the price very high for everything and see how much you can sell, and they will sell because they know there are nintendo fans out there who will pay almost any price. And thats what makes me sad, they are milking their most dedicated and loyal fans. Whatsmore, its not even a stupid move, because if they came out with a much fairer and better price, the switch would have been probably sold out until the end of the year. So they have foxconn produce a moderate amount which are sure they will be able to sell and see where it will go. If it keeps selling well and becomes a success they will stick to their pricing strategy for longer and it will confirm them. If the monthly production of the switch exceeds demand they will become much more agressive.
I think people are generally voicing concerns about the switch and the 10$ price difference is just one point. Its the overall package that people are not happy with. The pricing overall is ridiculous. No games included because they wanted to hold the 299 pricepoint - give me a break, at least they could have thrown in some nes vc titles like super mario bros. 32gb like the wii u? Hopefully they dont come up with a basic switch version that has 8gb. It all sounds rather greedy and stingy. Certainly not making a positive impact and thats sad. If the price was right I would buy it day one regardless of the launch line up. I will buy it later when its cheaper regardless if its successful or not. Until then I will play mk8 and splatoon on wii u. Zelda will have to wait unfortunately. Of course nintendo can charge whatever they want and consumers are not forced to buy it. Despite innovations like another gimmicky controller scheme they are again behind the times. Funny thing for me personally is that voice chat app. My room is pretty far away from my router, works fine with my wii u as I put it close to my room door, when I sit on my sofa my phone doesnt get any wifi, though.
@kenrulei Only one' proper' controller coming with no charging grip. Ps4 and xb1 were and are still more powerful and had greater storage out of the box. Also all the third party support which nintendo is never going to get. Truth be told, when it comes to value nintendo has always been cheaping out. I would never buy a nintendo console if it werent for the first party games.
I dont think its trash on youtube. Its people who share their opinion. Many negative comments on youtube are very similar and reasonable. Some comments I agree with, some comments I dont care about. The wii u has shown that a console will not survive solely because its nintendo. Nintendo is feeding those people with arguments. Similar to the xb1 e3 disaster, onlt fanboys defended microsoft when they clearly pushed it too far - same is going on witg nintendo.
They are doing everything to not make it a success. Wouldnt be surprised if ended up like the wii u. Its again more about gimmicky controls. 5 games for launch is quite unimpressive. Will buy it for christmas if the price is right together mario odyssey and botw. This will probably be a console where I will games carefully and wait patiently on the nintendo selects line. Most likely nintendos last console. After that they will go multiplatform.
Pricing matters. As a nintendo fan I will, sooner or later, invest into the switch. I dont want to miss out on zelda and fire emblem switch and many other first party titles. Like the author said, when things are expensive one needs to be picky. Certain games which I might have bought at launch I may buy later when the price has dropped significantly or not all. I can live with that since I am primarily interested in first party nintendo titles but third parties might face some difficulties
I will never buy that 12 switch game as I am less into gimmicky titles. I think nintendo is heading the wrong way with their pricing policy in general. It might put off too many people. You can get a ps4 for 300 dollars, probably with a game and lots of gb harddisk. Here you have to invest more and more with time. The lack of the joy con charging grip is another matter plus having to buy sd cards if you want digital content. Many parents will think twice.
Guess they have to make up for wiiu related losses. Staying a nintendo fan has become more expensive I guess.
In that case it might be better to get the pro controller and charge the cons while docked.
Not really cool for me. Free trial games are a joke imho. Nintendo tries to milk its fanbase in whatever way they can. Free online play would have been some sort of a killer app. Wonder what will come next? They havent really gotten into this whole microtransactions thing yet, have they? Supply packs with possible rare guns for splatoon could be awesome.
Will probably wait and see and buy it lateron. I generally like the switch. But its not a killer app IMHO. What I didnt like is the paid online multiplayer. Nintendo is the underdog. Free online multiplayer would be a good thing. I dont play that much online - sometimes its even weeks that I dont care about it. If I had to pay for it I might give it a pass but would certainly miss it every now and then.
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Re: I Am Setsuna Confirmed as Launch Day Release on Nintendo Switch
@sqbboyPOLAND
Siema!
Matter of fact I will start off easy with a 32gb card. Should need arise I will buy a 64gb card and use the 32gb card for my n3ds. Still underwhelming that you will have to invest extra money. Greedy nintendo. In fact I believe their stubborn stingyness will be their ultimate downfall
Re: First Impressions: Feeling Young Again With Sonic Mania
I was never a sega or sonic fan so I will give this one a wide berth
Re: Guide: The Best Nintendo Switch Micro SD Cards
I didnt think about gamecube games... yes, I want those! at least a couple of them. Great its gonna be a 64gb card to start with. Of course I could start with a 32gb card and see where this will go. Lateron buy that 64gb card and put the 32gb into my new 3ds.
The switch is gonna be expensive.
Re: Nintendo Has Involved Third Parties "Since The Beginning" With Switch, Says EA's Patrick Söderlund
@MeloMan
While I understand what you mean, I dont think it would make sense to any developer. Ubisoft made zombi u. That was an exclusive title and how did it sell?
Aaa third party games will be primarily at home with ms and sony.
Lets be honest which aaa games would buy on the switch if they came out? I could only think about dark souls. Maybe xcom. No ubi, ea or activision titles for me. Third parties know this and thats why they are hesitating.
Imho nintendo shouldnt rely on third parties at all. They made mistakes with wii u, i would say they were complacent. If I were nintendo I wouldnt have sold rare to microsoft - what kind of a decision was that anyway. I would have bought, set up and invested in other studio so as to have a potentially large first party support. Cing was a good company imho, they went bankrupt, nintendo could have stepped in.
More first party studios would have meant more games. Maybe more new ips. More experiments. But hey that sounds like a risk. Nintendo has been playing it safe in the past, apparently not taking too many risks. How can we demand risktaking from third parties if nintendo doesnt shine as an example.
Just btw its not like nintendo isnt taking risks at all. They take a lot of risks when it comes to controllers and controls. I meant aaa games and not some 1.2 switch cow milking which I think nobody had asked for and I would even come and say nobody would have ever gotten such an idea. So they indeed must be creative. Cow milking? Give me a break
Re: Poll: A Week On, How Do You Feel About the Nintendo Switch?
@Rman12
Well, here we are different. Even though I am highly disappointed with the switch, I am still going to get it. Mario Odyssey looked fine to me, even though I dont need it day one I am certainly going to play botw. Xenoblade and fire emblem will also be games that are no brainers for me. Theres gonna be a pikmin reboot, dragon quest 11 should be fine, too. I just hope the price will drop quite soon....
However I will be very picky this time around when it comes to games. I will certainly not pick up 1,2 switch. Will have a look at arms though when its a budget title
Re: Nintendo Has Involved Third Parties "Since The Beginning" With Switch, Says EA's Patrick Söderlund
@Hotfusion
We will see. hard to tell. The nintendo only user base is much different from sony or ms I believe. Those with xb1 or ps4 might consider nintendo as an alternative second or third console and will probably buy aaa 3rd party games for the other system and buy exclusives on the switch.
People who buy only nintendo consoles arent probably that interested in many third party games. Maybe occasionally or something. I own a wii u and a 3ds, my backlog is huge. How much time is there any way to walk through a game. The older I get the less energy I have left for gaming.
A game like botw will require dedication, of course I will dedicate my time to thoroughly explore this world but I cannot do that with every game that comes out. So I choose zelda over skyrim. After that its gonna be xenoblade 2 and fire emblem hopefully. Games have gotten so big in the last years that you have to decide if its really worth getting to know a new location of assassins creed. No offense, I never played that franchise. The first title seemed boring to me and at about that time I started to stay away from ubi games alltogether. Zombi u was the first title in years that I bought from ubi. Still sealed, i doubt i will ever open it.
Re: I Am Setsuna Confirmed as Launch Day Release on Nintendo Switch
I will keep my downloads to a minimum on the switch. 32gb doesnt offer much storage and the price for a 256gb card is way too high at the moment.
Re: Story of Seasons: Trio of Towns Secures North American Release Date
I would like to get it in europe, preferably a physical release
Re: Guide: The Best Nintendo Switch Micro SD Cards
@Thermoclorn
This might be true in parts.
I only but physical games. However, some games are available digital only, like zero time ir ace attorney. And there you go.
Re: Guide: The Best Nintendo Switch Micro SD Cards
And another hidden cost ☺
Re: Nintendo Has Involved Third Parties "Since The Beginning" With Switch, Says EA's Patrick Söderlund
@MadAdam81
I know and thats fine with me. Its just am not gonna buy any games made by them. To me, these games are uninteresting, reiterations of the same game. Nothing special for me, but to each his own. The only game that I was actually considering a purchase was Rayman legends but then I thought I will give it a pass.
Re: Nintendo Has Involved Third Parties "Since The Beginning" With Switch, Says EA's Patrick Söderlund
@River3636
The only game I bought from Ubisoft was Zombi U - it was on sale for 10EUR two years ago. I havent unsealed it yet, maybe I will sell it. I strongly dislike companies like Ubi, Ea or Activision.
Re: Nintendo Has Involved Third Parties "Since The Beginning" With Switch, Says EA's Patrick Söderlund
@Hotfusion
I doubt there will be great AAA titles ported, maybe a select few. I think third parties know that, too. So they are cautious. Nintendo gamers are different, care about different things in gaming. Games dont need to be realistic for a nintendo gamer. The graphics must be colorful. Nintendo games have mostly a positive vibe to it. Many third party games are about gore and violence. I am not saying that this a bad thing (I would like to play dark souls!) but thats the general vibe of many games on sony and ms platforms.
I liked castlevania games for gba and ds but didnt buy any for 3ds because the art style changed and it didnt appeal to me anymore.
Re: Nintendo Has Involved Third Parties "Since The Beginning" With Switch, Says EA's Patrick Söderlund
@Slim1999
Exactly, nintendo fans will get some good games.
Re: Capcom Has No Plans To Infect The Nintendo Switch With Resident Evil "At The Moment"
Resident evil is a franchise I couldnt really get into. So no big deal for me. I hope they will bring ace attorney and monster hunter
Re: Nintendo Has Involved Third Parties "Since The Beginning" With Switch, Says EA's Patrick Söderlund
@Slim1999
Indeed, and it wasnt really that successful in direct comparison with the psone.
Its a funny thing btw, people complain about the launch line up and possible lack of third party games, but I dont really care about third party games - they might have a negative impact on overall sales and mass market appeal. I am talking western third party games here. I am more interested in games like dark souls (which I have heard will come) and games like monster hunter or ace attorney - basically japanese third party games.
I couldnt care less about games like cod or assassins creed and many others - but thats taste. People like different things in gaming. Chances are the majority of nintendo gamers have a similar taste so many will not care about mainstream third party games. I certainly wont.
Re: Nintendo Has Involved Third Parties "Since The Beginning" With Switch, Says EA's Patrick Söderlund
@Yasume
Right now its a little bit worse. Wii u launched with quite a number of third party games.
Re: Feature: 10 Intriguing Third-Party Nintendo Switch Games for Your Wishlist
Couldnt care less about these games
Re: Poll: A Week On, How Do You Feel About the Nintendo Switch?
@JaxonH
Well, nintendo will carefully monitoring everything. Its a fansite, true. But they want know how people react and what they say on the net.
Re: Poll: A Week On, How Do You Feel About the Nintendo Switch?
@JaxonH
Any consumer can buy anything. But why the fanboyism? Dobt you think that nintendo could have done MUCH better? Wouldnt it be nice to let them know? But thats just my opinion. We will see how it will go.
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Re: Poll: A Week On, How Do You Feel About the Nintendo Switch?
@Syrek24
There is a difference between a fan and a fanboy website. In truth both kinds are present. One is praising everything, the other speaks what is on his mind. No offense, please do enjoy your purchase and make all the world to see it. It will help nintendo and thats what matters most isnt it?
Re: Poll: A Week On, How Do You Feel About the Nintendo Switch?
@JaxonH
Yeah, pretty awesome. A wii u on the go. Its good but not worth the price of admission.
Re: Poll: A Week On, How Do You Feel About the Nintendo Switch?
@Rman12
Thanks!
Yes, that the difference between a fanboy and a nintendo fan. I dont care about fanboys and how much they justify anything nintendo does. I am fairly disappointed and hope to make at least some people see it for what it really is
Guess what? I bought myself two spare wii us. Thats how crazy I am!
On the other hand I cannot blame anyone. People have wanted the switch to be a success, deep down they know nintendo is not doing an amazing move here, but still they want it to be true, so people will say everythings fine and fully justified and that haters are nitpicking. Nothing could be further from the truth. Good competition only enhances business for the customers, this one is going nowhere, its not even competition, its the price of admition of being a nintendo fan or fanboy. I will buy the switch sooner or later, I am sure there will be games I dont want to miss out on but I will not confirm them in theit insolence by buying it day one. Christmas or later we will see.
Fanboyism has never been so obvious imho.
Be it as it may, its the family friendly atmosphere that nintendo games provide and thats what I like them for. I dont like them for anything else and thats quite sad.
Re: Poll: A Week On, How Do You Feel About the Nintendo Switch?
@Kirgo
I dont think there is haters on this site. Its nintendo fans who care.
As a nintendo fan I was very disappointment after watching the switch presentation and seeing nintendo committing very much the same mistakes they did in the past. But this time might be the last. They havent learnt a single lesson from past mistakes, no, they are taking it to the next level as if they were the kings of the business and people should be happy that they get a switch at all and not complain.
Videogaming, over the years, has become a nintendo or nothing thing for me. I dont care about MS and Sony because I like family friendly nintendo gaming above everything. If there is no nintendo I will not continue playing video games.
I would have like to continue gaming on the wii u for another couple of years, not caring about specs and stuff. But nintendo pulled the plug, they wont let me buy new games, because there arent any games coming. They had decided that the wii u was not worth producing games for. Its not any others fault but their own. But I am affected. I like playing their games but they wont give me anymore games.
So, yes, in order to continue, I will buy a switch. But not day one. Probably around christmas - or maybe even later if I will be so inclined.
Nintendo hasnt come up with something outstanding - gimmicks are just gimmicks - you play them for 10 minutes and then you are done. I dont care about third party support like EA, Ubi, or activision, but apparently the lack thereof might kill the switch (killswitch ).
So, no, after watching that presentation my hopes for nintendo have really come down. I think its insolent, to charge ridiculous prices, not even trying to compete with MS or Sony, and expecting to be successful?
Paying for online gaming? Fine! One month nes/snes rentals? Thats a joke. I dont care about free games, but I know when somebody is trying to cheap me out. They perfectly know what their competition does, and yet, they believe they are better because their nintendo? Yes, I am a nintendo fan. Or rather a fan of nintendo games. I think I dont really nintendo as a company, because they apparently dont really seem to care about their customers, their loyal fanbase.
Take a look at mynintendo. I still have 150 gold coings and nothing to spend them on. Soon they will delete some of them. I dont care. I am not gonna spend them on some digital content that I already own physical.
So, this is not about hate. Its about disappointment about a company. You like the games they produce but the price to pay those couple of games is getting higher and higher.
There will basically be no third party support. I couldnt care less, but if the system doesnt sell, and of course, they will blame third party support and not themselves, they will pull the plug, and I will have invested lots of money in a console that was again underpowered, overpriced, didnt deliver at all, and had many, many inconveniences to put up with (at least compared to the standard of 2017 or even 2002).
I am not hating, I am concerned, and most of all I am sad about what nintendo is doing. They are giving us a minimum and charging us a maximum. They make it look like a gaming revolution but havent delivered anything yet. THe more interesting titles IMHO would have been possible on the wii u as well. So should I applaud or congratulate them? For what?
300 dollars? They couldnt include a game? Just because they wanted this price tag? Come on! They are not poor!
Its just corporate speech for people who believe anything they say. This is not hating - its about expressing an opinion and opening the eyes of those that dont see. Nintendos glory days are over, they really should go multiplattform and become the greatest software company in the world. The make great software but not great hardware. They should leave it to those who know what they are doing. Nintendo relies on people who are quite old. They may be experienced but they dont get the current vibes and trends otherwise they wouldnt have insulted their fasebase with their gaming revolution. The nes/snes days are long gone.
Some people compare the price of the switch with the xb1 and ps4 at launch or even ps3 charging 600 dollars at launch. Do we get the same here? Do we get more? Do we get less? Can they even compete? They have become the underdogs. In order for an underdog to make an impression he has to hit hard. Make an offer that people cannot turn down. They have made an offer, once again, as if they are the holy of the gaming industry.
Nintendo has been widely known for their arrogance - especially during nes days, forcing people to play by their rules. This attitude hasnt changed very much.
So again, this is not hate, its more of a sadness about a company that has provided good gaming for you in the past, but the company policies/strategies and everything else besides the games leave a lot to be desired.
Its like my nintendo, its there, but is anyone satisfied with it? I dont think so. But there will always be people who will defend any misstep they make. Like saying, we should be happy that there is mynintendo at all. They have the right to do whatever they want and they gave us mynintendo, they didnt need to do that, it was their good will, so we should be grateful for a couple virtual coins we may or may not find usedful, but its their because of their good will. And thats the attitude that I dislike about nintendo. They think they are great, and they know there will be loyal fans who will go for it no matter how expensive, outdated, annoying, inconvenient, umcompetitive it may be and telling us just how great it is and still there will be fanboys who will find a way to defend it. I think thats the truth here and many people know it.
Re: Poll: A Week On, How Do You Feel About the Nintendo Switch?
@kenrulei
True, fifa is agood addition
Re: Poll: A Week On, How Do You Feel About the Nintendo Switch?
@DBPirate
You might actually be right on this one. Still not a game for me.
Re: Poll: A Week On, How Do You Feel About the Nintendo Switch?
@00Wyvern
☺
Believe it or not. I never played on my 3ds outside of the house. Gaming is for me to relax when I am alone.
Re: Poll: A Week On, How Do You Feel About the Nintendo Switch?
@Cyberbotv2
Sadly I am only interested in nintendo. But I dont want to get milked and will wait as long as necessary, I think I own approx 200 games, my backlog is quite huge as well. So there is no need for me to tush.
Re: Poll: A Week On, How Do You Feel About the Nintendo Switch?
@kenrulei
What kind of games are nintendo fans actually interested in when it comes to third parties? I could think of dragon quest, games by atlus, level 5, maybe visual novel like 999 or ace attorney. I think dark souls is the only game that I would have loved playing but couldnt. And that is about to change! ☺
Re: Poll: A Week On, How Do You Feel About the Nintendo Switch?
@SavoirFaire
Of course they will pull a wii u. Skyrim is a great example of third party support will not work.they simply cannot bring the same quality to the switch. Skyrim for the switch might be better than the 360 version which came out in 2011 if I am correct. The ps4 got an enhanced version. Why not port the enhanced version to the switch? And btw why should people buy skyrim again? Just because they can play it on the go? I never play on the go, could be dangerous while driving a car.
Re: Poll: A Week On, How Do You Feel About the Nintendo Switch?
@LArachelDisciple
Third party is imho overrated. Third party will not sell the system as long as its available on other systems. If your friends play cod on xbox you will buy an xbox in order to play with them. As harsh as this may sound. Wii u had more third party games at launch and it didnt help.
Exclusives is the key word ☺ but why should a company produce an exclusive game? Xb1 and ps4 combined have an install base that the switch might never reach. So whats the profit of making an exclusive blockbuster?
Nintendo should have released the switch with zelda botw instead of the 3ds. Now they would be kings and people would be looking forward to the switch u.☺
Re: Poll: A Week On, How Do You Feel About the Nintendo Switch?
@Yasume
I dont think it will do worse, maybe not much better but definitely not worse. Wii u might have just sold
13 million.
But theres so many 3ds gamers, especially in Japan. Many of these will definitely but it. Think about pokemon on the switch. That will be a huge jump from 240p on 3ds to at least 720p.
I think they will sell
at least 30 million in the long run, when they drop the price and deliver killer games.
Re: Poll: A Week On, How Do You Feel About the Nintendo Switch?
@Cyberbotv2
They have definitely pushed it too far this time. Sometimes you need to make a loss first in order to make a profit.
They should sell the switch at 250$ even without a game, and throw in that chargin grip. Accessoires should be cheaper by 20% and it will sell like bread. That would bring in lots of third parties. Nintendo would profit the most from a huge install base as its primary their games that sell best. AND consoles with a huge install base lasted longer (not necessarily the wii) and have still been getting games after their successors were launched. Imho its a huge installbase where they should have invested in (and specs). Right now it seems they want to make the largest profit possible with every console.
Darkest scenario imho: their plan is to drop the price pretty soon, because they cannot be so stupid as to know what I have written above. But first they take a gamble. Set the price very high for everything and see how much you can sell, and they will sell because they know there are nintendo fans out there who will pay almost any price. And thats what makes me sad, they are milking their most dedicated and loyal fans. Whatsmore, its not even a stupid move, because if they came out with a much fairer and better price, the switch would have been probably sold out until the end of the year.
So they have foxconn produce a moderate amount which are sure they will be able to sell and see where it will go. If it keeps selling well and becomes a success they will stick to their pricing strategy for longer and it will confirm them. If the monthly production of the switch exceeds demand they will become much more agressive.
It will actually be very interesting to observe.
Re: Poll: A Week On, How Do You Feel About the Nintendo Switch?
@JamesR
I think people are generally voicing concerns about the switch and the 10$ price difference is just one point.
Its the overall package that people are not happy with. The pricing overall is ridiculous. No games included because they wanted to hold the 299 pricepoint - give me a break, at least they could have thrown in some nes vc titles like super mario bros. 32gb like the wii u? Hopefully they dont come up with a basic switch version that has 8gb. It all sounds rather greedy and stingy. Certainly not making a positive impact and thats sad. If the price was right I would buy it day one regardless of the launch line up. I will buy it later when its cheaper regardless if its successful or not. Until then I will play mk8 and splatoon on wii u. Zelda will have to wait unfortunately.
Of course nintendo can charge whatever they want and consumers are not forced to buy it. Despite innovations like another gimmicky controller scheme they are again behind the times. Funny thing for me personally is that voice chat app. My room is pretty far away from my router, works fine with my wii u as I put it close to my room door, when I sit on my sofa my phone doesnt get any wifi, though.
Re: Poll: A Week On, How Do You Feel About the Nintendo Switch?
@kenrulei
Only one' proper' controller coming with no charging grip. Ps4 and xb1 were and are still more powerful and had greater storage out of the box. Also all the third party support which nintendo is never going to get. Truth be told, when it comes to value nintendo has always been cheaping out. I would never buy a nintendo console if it werent for the first party games.
Re: Poll: A Week On, How Do You Feel About the Nintendo Switch?
@JamesR
I dont think its trash on youtube. Its people who share their opinion. Many negative comments on youtube are very similar and reasonable. Some comments I agree with, some comments I dont care about. The wii u has shown that a console will not survive solely because its nintendo. Nintendo is feeding those people with arguments. Similar to the xb1 e3 disaster, onlt fanboys defended microsoft when they clearly pushed it too far - same is going on witg nintendo.
Re: Poll: A Week On, How Do You Feel About the Nintendo Switch?
They are doing everything to not make it a success. Wouldnt be surprised if ended up like the wii u. Its again more about gimmicky controls. 5 games for launch is quite unimpressive. Will buy it for christmas if the price is right together mario odyssey and botw. This will probably be a console where I will games carefully and wait patiently on the nintendo selects line. Most likely nintendos last console. After that they will go multiplatform.
Re: Editorial: Pricing Blunders Have Distorted The Narrative Around Nintendo Switch
Pricing matters. As a nintendo fan I will, sooner or later, invest into the switch. I dont want to miss out on zelda and fire emblem switch and many other first party titles. Like the author said, when things are expensive one needs to be picky. Certain games which I might have bought at launch I may buy later when the price has dropped significantly or not all. I can live with that since I am primarily interested in first party nintendo titles but third parties might face some difficulties
Re: Princess Zelda is "Very Complex and Multi-Faceted" in Breath of the Wild, Aonuma Explains
@Ledgendt
Shouldnt be too hard to get both...
Re: Nintendo Forces Us To Think Differently, Says EA's Patrick Söderlund
If the console sells well, ea will be making games.
Re: Yes, You Can Charge Your Nintendo Switch In Tabletop Mode
Getting more and more expensive. It seems the switch is as flexible as it gets but that flexibility comes at a price. Really annoying.
Re: Gearbox CEO Doesn't See Borderlands 3 Coming To Nintendo Switch
I thought borderlands was boring
Re: Nintendo Switch Lacks Pack-In Title Because It's $299, Says Reggie Fils-Aime
I will never buy that 12 switch game as I am less into gimmicky titles. I think nintendo is heading the wrong way with their pricing policy in general. It might put off too many people. You can get a ps4 for 300 dollars, probably with a game and lots of gb harddisk. Here you have to invest more and more with time. The lack of the joy con charging grip is another matter plus having to buy sd cards if you want digital content. Many parents will think twice.
Re: The Legend of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild Is A 13.4GB Download On Nintendo Switch
Micro cards are not that expensive but if you download a lot...
I go physical whenever possible
Re: By The Way, The Joy-Con Grip Bundled With Nintendo Switch Won't Charge Your Joy-Cons
Guess they have to make up for wiiu related losses. Staying a nintendo fan has become more expensive I guess.
In that case it might be better to get the pro controller and charge the cons while docked.
Re: Video: How Shigeru Miyamoto Designs a Game
best games are mario, zelda and pikmin imho
the guy made video game history and is the best designer of all time IMHO.
Re: Breaking Down the Nintendo Switch Online Service Details
Not really cool for me. Free trial games are a joke imho. Nintendo tries to milk its fanbase in whatever way they can.
Free online play would have been some sort of a killer app.
Wonder what will come next? They havent really gotten into this whole microtransactions thing yet, have they? Supply packs with possible rare guns for splatoon could be awesome.
Re: Soapbox: The Switch Presentation Was Good, but Not Perfect
Will probably wait and see and buy it lateron. I generally like the switch. But its not a killer app IMHO.
What I didnt like is the paid online multiplayer. Nintendo is the underdog. Free online multiplayer would be a good thing. I dont play that much online - sometimes its even weeks that I dont care about it. If I had to pay for it I might give it a pass but would certainly miss it every now and then.
Re: Here's How Long the Switch's Battery Life Will Last
That was expected
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Is Currently in Development
Looking forward