Capcom Has No Plans To Infect The Nintendo Switch With Resident Evil "At The Moment"

This right here is partly why the Switch will fail. It's €330, hasn't even come out yet and can't play all the current games. Where are all the AAA big third party games? People are going to skip the Switch if it doesn't have the big games or if they're inferior ports.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE even so the pre-sle is sold out pretty much everywhere. Incredible fail... |=

That is a shame, maybe they could do a resident evil collection, you know all the good ones 1-3

Am I the only one who would love the Chronicles series to return? Absolutely loved coop with that, and you could do it quite well on the go with the new JoyCons

If this Resident Evil game came out for Switch I would buy it on day 1.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE That's the glass-half-empty version. The way I see it, it's a much better console than the Wii U, a better portable than the 3DS and has a better year 1 line-up than both. It's also cheaper than a Wii U.

@setezerocinco It's not sold out here in Ireland or the UK. 2 million is nothing. Wii U sold out at launch and that was a disaster.

It again doesn't surprise me.

I think this is all a case of 'wait and see'. Hopefully when the switch has a great first year, they will all jump onboard and release as it is a credible form of income.

I guess it will be a case of 'All of WiiU'

This actually shows more common sense from Capcom than the other third parties are showing... even though Resident Evil is one of their biggest selling series, chances are it won't sell as well on the Switch at launch as some of their other franchises due to differences in the preferences of users.
They need to start off with games that will sell well with the early adopters... strengthen the initial user base first, before expanding upon it with games like Resident Evil.

Resident evil is a franchise I couldnt really get into. So no big deal for me. I hope they will bring ace attorney and monster hunter

@SLIGEACH_EIRE To be honest, even if the Switch is more powerful than the Wii U and easier to port games to, this would likely require too much work to get it to work to a satisfactory level on the Switch hardware. Costs likely outweigh potential returns.

I already have an extensive backlog of RE games on Steam. This news doesn't affect me much, though it is disappointing how Capcom seems hesitant to bring the series to the Switch. Hopefully Capcom will support the console with other IPs.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE „pretty much" everywhere, I wrote.

This is a shame. I've got the demo for Xbox One (but I've not tried it yet), - if it came to Switch I'd get it.

I'm also hoping for some Resident Evil games on Virtual Console. Resi 3, 4 and REmake for GameCube would be day 1s for me.

The only support Capcom have shown for Switch so far is a port of an XBOX360 Live Street Fighter 2 game that was $15 back then. We get to pay $40 for that same privilege. Stellar, Capcom, stellar!

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Source om that price tag?

I was never going to buy it for Switch. There's no way the Switch version would have been the best.

The core demographic of Switch are currently muddied and a bit confused. Will the cherished 'hardcore' gaming contingent buy it or is it Wii portable by any other name? Nintendo are targeting a bit of both. But when the dust settles on launch, and the big pubs can do their market research and look at sales figures we will have a better idea about what AAA titles - if any - will hit.

How have Nintendo managed to get less third-party support than the Wii U?! That's an achievement.

@MarcelRguez Explain to me how a Switch is cheaper than a Wii U? Switch is currently £280 with no game, whilst a Wii U is £250 with a game.

@MarcelRguez Digital Foundry.

~2:20.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE I wasnt aware that pricing for Street fighter had been formally announced.

Capcom had a difficult year last year with a smaller market share than even Codemasters and Sega. They will want to take as few risks as they can this year to build themselves up, if Switch is successful then I'm sure they will knock out some quick Resident Evil ports missing from Nintendo's back catalogue just to get some presence on there aside from Monster Hunter which no doubt will make an appearance on Switch before the year is out. Capcom has a decent library of classic games but really can't afford the risk, EA and Activision on the other hand can.

Cant say Switch is sold out. Preordered one last week and will get it on release.

@RainbowGazelle Looking at current high street prices in the UK, I can get a new Wii U for £299.99 with Mario Kart 8. The Switch will be £280 without a game... however the £299.99 is a recent reduction since the Switch point of sale hit the shelves.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Digital Foundry can be wrong. At the moment the Foxconn leaks which directly contradict a lot of what Digital Foundry was stating about the Switch's clock speeds etc. have been proven right on almost everything they said.

@RainbowGazelle I would have added 'at launch', but I thought that part was obvious. Besides, it's still 350 euros here.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Will watch in a bit, but Digital Foundry? That doesn't scream "reliable source" to me, at least in this area.

I hope that a Resident Evil game will come to the Switch. I loved Resident Evil 4! Best Game ever

Well, shoot. I was actually really hoping to be able to get back into Resident Evil with a friend of mine who's also big on Resident Evil, but we can't play if it's not coming to Switch. (And no, I refuse to buy a Playstation/Xbox just for this series.)

Oh well. Call me when you change your mind, Capcom.

@DanteSolablood just to say it's £237 from high street supermarket with Mario Kart 8 installed. It's often been around that price, my daughter paid £240 for hers with Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon.

I suspect Revelations 2 is more probable for now, not to mention the potential of Gamecube re-releases if NSVC does support that. But considering what the platform offers by definition, I'd be actually surprised if Capcom didn't dish out or at least announce a Monster Hunter game soon - IIRC the series started out on a home console before moving to PSP and then 3DS.

... I stupidly paid full price with Nintendoland however.

@nhSnork Revelations 2 would be a good fit for switch, mabey even adding original wiiU port of Revelations for extra value.

@BinaryFragger yes, but the anticipation was totally different. From the very beginning the Wii U was misunderstood and people had no interest to buy. Even me, that bought all Nintendo consoles at launch, skipped the Wii U until the Wind Waker Edition was released, so I can only imagine what the non-fans thought about it. This time the sensation is completely the opposite.

@Raptor78 Prices will vary, looking at places like GAME it's still £299.99 with Mario Kart 8 new & £499.99 with Mario Kart 8 + Splatoon. Prices will vary though... I'm guessing supermarkets are taking a hit to shift stock, especially considering TESCO only has one game in it's Wii U section.

EDIT: Just checked online & it's only TESCO selling the Wii U out of the big 3 supermarkets and they only have one game listed (Lego Batman). This means that TESCO is likely trying to clear stock. Also, nowhere, even online is selling that MK8/Splatoon pack for under £350-£400 brand new.

Ofc they wont, who would invest in a game for a console that will fail?

@MarcelRguez The Wii U had a lot of games at launch and even had AAA 3rd party games. In comparison this launch is awful. I've preordered mine and will always support Nintendo but I'm not convinced it will do any better.

3rd party support is terrible and a lot of Devs/publishers will wait and see how it sells but without their early support, sales will take a hit.

Considering the game comes out before the console it would be stupid to make a port for the Switch as the majority of people will already have bought it on other consoles.

They are doing what many 3rd parties seem to be doing; a wait and see attitude. Obviously this can be a double edged sword since if people are holding purchase until more 3rd parties, then they'll never arrived. But from a business perspective it makes perfect sense after the Wii U's lacklustre sales. It's important that Nintendo constantly releases 1st and 2nd party titles early to entice people to buy it. So far, it's doing okay for the first year though hopefully more titles will appear.

Although I have greater faith in the Switch selling simply because of its more unique concept and portability (which will be a huge boon in Japan). Hopefully that will give the confidence for publishers to start supporting.

Either way, I expect it to sell better than the Wii U and even the GameCube.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE More another version of the HD edition in the same vain as Turbo, Super, etc then just a direct port. Not just for the extra 2 characters but in the PS360 HD edition you could not switch to classic graphics for example.

I'm not surprised but that's ok. I have a PC anyway. buhahahaha

@ruinez Depends on what you mean by fail, at least Nintendo made money on the Wii U, Microsoft has never made money on any generation of the XBox. For developers, yes, the Wii U was pretty poor pickings - but I doubt that has anything with Capcom's decision, especially as they made a mint from the 3DS which will be rotated out eventually.

I don't mind it not coming to the Switch for the time being. Even if it was going to be ported to the Switch, it's a PC purchase for me anyways.

@Alucard83 I heard that!

@Monkeyofthefunk Yeah, ancient third-party games, generally speaking. Arkham Origins, Assassin's Creed IV and Black Ops II were some of the few actual multi-platform titles it got. Those ports didn't convince people who already owned another console to buy a Wii U, they were crowd-pleasers for those who survived the whole 7th gen with a Wii.

Just imagine how this comment section would be reacting if the Switch launched with ports of 2013 games. I doubt many posts would change. Besides that, the Switch is launching on March. I'm sure things will be busier on the Holidays.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Resident evil 7 is a bad game. Even before this announcement.

Wouldn't buy it anyway. Doesn't look like Resident Evil---just another FPS survival horror game in the wake of all those awful indie "games."

Because a game isn't coming, it is Nintendoomed!

We're talking about Capcom, they'll most likely port it later to the Switch, smartphones and smart watches. Specially if the rumors of easy porting from PS4 to Switch are true.

@MarcelRguez
Digital Foundry is Eurogamer.net. I'm not sure there's anybody who compares tech better than they do.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE This game will be coming to the switch. You know why? Because this game is going to fail miserably. Soo is going to be even in android.

Personally i see this as Capcom looking at the Switch & it's portability & taking into mind that a slow, creepy, dark survival horror is not necessarily a perfect fit for the Switch. After all, if the XboxOne can run Resident Evil 7, it wouldn't take a huge amount of work to get it running on the Switch.

I think it's also a case that the early development kits that were sent out to most developers are actually standard Tegra kits & supposedly not even close to the Switch's actual power, making something like Resident Evil 7 a game likely to be announced in a few months... not when randomly pressed by journalists.

I think if RE:7 was another run & gun game like some of the other later games, we'd be seeing it already on the Switch... it's likely a downside to the portability. Some developers are treating it more like a handheld. Something I hope the Switch can correct.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Where do you think all of the vita developers are going to go with the vita near death? Where are the primarily 3ds developers going to go seeing how this is likely it's last year. Where do you think Pokémon is going to go. Where do you see the future of monster hunter in Japan?
The switch is definitely not going to fail.

Worst news of the day. I love RE and I think it would be perfect for the Switch. I don't care if someone thinks RE7 is a bad or boring game (did you actually played through and finished it or are you just judging based on the demo?). Yes it's not the same as pevious titles (obviously), but I still want to play it on the go >.>. Some people really need to move on from the past...

Nintendo makes me more and more hesistant to invest in the Switch (it's not their fault exactly since the decision was made by Capcom, but there is still too many issues hard to ignore)...

@SLIGEACH_EIRE At first I refused to believe such statement, but now it seems very likely. People who would buy Switch will be mainly die-hard fans of Nintendo and Nintendo is already losing those fans's interest in purchasing it...

@WOLF1313 And that has absolutely nothing to do with how much Capcom decides to charge for USFII, which is the topic at hand.

CAPCOM games I need!
Resident evil, monster hunter, power stone! The rest I'm not fussed about.

@DanteSolablood £299.99 is a reduction? Game ALWAYS overcharge. It's been £249.99 on Nintendo's UK store for months now. They're adding in Minecraft for free now, so you get 2 games with it: http://store.nintendo.co.uk/wii-u/consoles.list

@MarcelRguez Even at launch the WII U was £300 with a game included. It must have been cheaper in the UK.

@Angelic_Lapras_King you can switch to classic graphics in the PS3 version

@MarcelRguez point taken but the confusion over what the Wii U was will remain with the Switch. Casual & mobile gamers will see it as a tablet, which many already have.

@RainbowGazelle I'm assuming you are talking about the premium SKU with Nintendo Land, right? What about the basic model? I paid 350€ for my basic Wii U model back in the day and I'm paying 319€ for the neon Switch now, so it's cheaper for me. It's even cheaper for Americans, if I'm not mistaken. $300 pre-tax.

@Monkeyofthefunk If you ask me, Nintendo isn't targeting the casual market. Other than 1 2 Switch, there's not a single game that screams "casual" to me. I believe that's precisely the reason why they didn't bundle it with the system and why they didn't showcase motion controls in the reveal video.

It's much more possible, when looking at the line-up, that Nintendo is trying to sell this thing to three targets:

1. Die-hard Nintendo fans. This might seem obvious, but take a look at the titles they have announced for 2017. Most of them (1 2 Switch be damned) are games that require great dedication to play. BotW, XC2, Super Mario Odyssey and even Fire Emblem Warriors (despite being a 2018 title) fit this category.

2. Japanese-oriented players. Again, self-explainatory. DQX and SMTV are the highlights for me. Japanese games are usually a good fit for portable devices.

3.People with the will to rekindle their interest in Nintendo. I call it the Breath of the Wild effect. Others might call it bringing franchises back to their roots (SMO). If they manage to tap in the Pokémon Go craze, they would have effectively expanded the reach of their "big three" (Mario, Zelda, Pokémon) to the people who used to play Nintendo games.

@RainbowGazelle £249.99 with 2 games, one of which you can buy in full on any Android or Apple tablet for £7. That's still not a huge leap between the Wii U & Switch, especially considering the Wii U is the same price as a PS4 Slim with Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare.

The Switch is a brand new piece of hardware which despite it's alleged power, has more advanced technology inside it than the PS4. Oddly enough though, GAME is actually offering a brand new PS4 with 2 games for £249.99. Meaning the Wii U is still extremely pricey for something that went up against the PS3/360.

Even if the Switch is more than a Wii U, it's not by much & still insignificant compared to any other console at launch.

And so it begins. . . .

Switch will get a unique resi I think

Hopefully Switch will be able to house games like Shenmue 3 (or HD), the new Resident Evil, Layers of Fear and games similar to Overwatch or Team Fortress 2 (hopefully online servers are great and they would be closer to the pc versions).

Anyways that enough of what I hope will come to the Switch.

PS: Wouldnt it be great if a new Power Stone game came out for this. Multiplayer would be fantastic!

People are going to buy the Switch for 1st party games period! 3rd parties have long left the system. We will still get the same 3rd party content Nintendo has for the last 5 years or so and add 3ds 3d party to that and I'm happy! Nintendo just has to bring no less then 4 to 5 big games a year and they should be fine. No half baked 2d games though. Enough with the 2d platform games Nintendo. As much as I liked Woolly World and Tropical Freeze they need to take a long break!

When will people learn that the successful launching of a console means absolutely nothing. It's no guarantee.
Surely intelligent people learn from history according to some great man whose name I can't remember.
Many flops started well. (Lol, Especially in sports).

I am not saying that the Switch won't sell a trillion (I hope it does) but to base success on preorders is not wise.
I do not mean to be offensive to anyone but I like to keep expectations realistic. Like calming fanbs when they boasted about Tegra X2 and PS4 graphics in the Switch.

I do not see this news as positive or negative. I see it as a sensible business decision after the Wii+WiiU.
Many developers will play a waiting game with the Switch, regardless of what games and support they promised.

All I can do is HOPE it turns out relatively well in the long term.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE
Debbie Downer again!

....Just put freakin' Monster Hunter on here Capcom...

@setezerocinco if you are even trying to imply the Switch is a success because it sold out of its preorder alottments (a number we don't even know, btw) then you are missing the point entirely.

Guy above you is right, this kind of stuff is the reason Switch will ultimately fail, if it ever does.

Not surprised. Gonna be the case with a lot of big games.

@Alexprime this is objectionably false. RE7 looks to be one of the greatest games of the year already, and based on the Beginning Hour demo, I'd have to double down on that prediction.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Where is Capcom saying it can't support the game? Their statement reads as every other third party: We are waiting for sales of the console before spending money on big games/AAA games ports.

Third parties are not a charity if they put effort in porting AAA games to Switch they want to make sure is because they will get the sales said effort cost in return.

@dew12333 It's the truth though and another negative against the Switch. Is it my fault RE7 can't be played on the Switch?

@cheonsacz speak for yourself. Japanese sites crashing, people doing lines for the console, pre-orders sold out but yeah Nintendo is "losing" their fans. Whatever....

Well, duh.

Wii U 2.

@Jessica286 It's chicken versus the egg. And it's sounding more and more like the Wii U all over again.

@faint

Mobile like Nintendo? Sorry I really couldn't resist.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE and it will be always the case. Nintendo needs to sell consoles not third parties they go where money is because they run a business. If Nintendo manage to sell Switches third party is there if they don't then they will not. Besides people buy X console because its exclusive games not because of the third party games.

Why would anyone choose between an Xbox One vs a PS4? Exclusives and price that is.

@BiasedSonyFan not putting all your games in a console launch is pretty much the waiting game.

Square Enix went with what? Dragon Quest games! Why? Because those sold a lot in the 3DS and they are treating the console as a portable hence Project Octopat Traveler. Rumors on NeoGaf are the Switch is an Xbox One basic model so it can support third parties now the question is wheter they want to port or not. Considering how poorly third party version always sold on Nintendo console how can ppl blame third parties? They know ppl buy Nintendo for Nintendo.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE
We've reached a point where it's more Capcom's problem than Nintendo's. Even on a small market as the WiiU Nintendo still sold much more games than Capcom this gen. And Capcom is only surviving thanks to the Monster Hunter games since Street Fighter 5 flopped.
If Capcom don't want to help the Switch to become a big market it's their problem and they'll have to deal with the AAA western competition on the Playstation market that is crushing the japanese industry.

@bitleman I am pretty sure they will eventually put Monster Hunter on the Switch because lets be honest 3DS and Vita days are counted and I don't see Nintendo releasing another portable. When that happens and Pokemon happens Switch will sell a lot and third parties will want a piece of the cake.

@bitleman After all Activision manage to downgrade Call of Duty to Wii so its not a matter of; can the Switch support it? Is more an issue of will it sell?

@Jessica286 I was talking from my experience and from conversations with Nintendo die-hard fans that I personally know or I met over internet. I was not speaking from japanese audience perspective as I'm not Japanese, thus I have no need to visit japanese sites (if I could read japanese articles why would I bother visiting a NL?). I never said the Switch will definitely fail and I never said Nintendo is losing ALL their fans. You are a bit rude, but you are right in one thing... whatever you think, does not matter to me, this is a public article where anyone can comment and share their opinion.

@BiasedSonyFan both mine and his statements were opinions. His, however, was so far off base that its objectionably false. There does not exist a world where RE7 is a bad game. A game not suited for some folks tastes? Sure.

To your other point, Western AAA market is where the home console market has gone. Nintendo needs to embrace this fact or bow out of the race.

@Jessica286 these and animals crossing. I also don't think we should underestimate splatoon on the go in Japan.

@gatorboi352 you do realize this is also a portable right?

@BiasedSonyFan I will not discuss power because true is nobody knows for certain. For that we will have to wait for the console release.

@faint exactly! True is Nintendo has the better software out of the 3 companies and is naive to just discard them. Remember when IGN said that PS Vita was destined to succeed while 3DS was DOOM?!

Well look how that turn out. History has show us to never take Nintendoom for granted.

Aaaaaand another one. The switch is amaaaazing. Lmaoo

@cheonsacz then please don't generalize.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE This game was in development way before the Switch so it make sense that it won't be release for Switch anytime soon. Besides I'm sure Capcom had other plans for Switch outside of Resident Evil and it's not like it won't come later, Resident Evil Revelations went multiplat after the 3DS release so if Capcom want more money they could easily port Resident Evil 7 to Switch at anytime after Switch's launch.

That's cool. At least Capcom is delighted about the Switch technology. And besides, a dumbed down version of RE7 for the Switch would get slandered pretty hard anyway.

This maybe a late request but how about those RE Zeros, RE Remake, Revelations 1 & 2 for the Switch? The Remake of 2 would be nice as well on the same day as the other two platforms get theres.

And the possibility of have 5&6 on the Nintendo Switch would be satisfying.

Don't be shady, Capcom...

@KidRad apparently the whole things been rebalanced too.

I guess some of the games coming out very soon have been in development for a fairly long time. Perhaps Switch just was never part of the plan and devs are waiting the Switch to prove itself. Sounds fairly reasonable.

In any case, it seems clear that if you want all the multiplats coming soon, you're going to need more than the Switch. The Switch will have Nintendo and hopefully more in time, but it's not going to compete directly for a little while, if it manages at all in that respect. I hope it does, but the market isn't defined so who knows?

Resident Evil has had quite a long history with Nintendo, so we will probably get something someday. I'm guessing REVII was to far into developent.

I'm still very, very confused at everyone's expectations here that the Switch can run PS4/XB1 games. It can't. It won't. It's not powerful enough, and it never was going to be. So why is everyone surprised and calling this a death knell for the Switch?

@Bunkerneath Coincidence you mentioned that but a few days ago and infact yesterday too, the Resident Evil Origins Collection was released for PS4/XBone! It'd be perfect for the Switch too since it was already on the gamecube and wii.

@Megas What if the New Switch was available as a $150 main tablet only 3-4 years down the road, was compatible with all the accessories, and could play all the games at higher settings?

@KidRad Yeah but with Ultra Street Fighter II you get the game as both a home console and a portable title plus online and local multiplay with the addition of Evil Ryu, Violent Ken, better character artwork and play the game in both the HD or classic graphic style. It's definitely worth it at $40. If it's nothing but a Wii U port of SSF2 Turbo HD Remix then I could see it at lower the price.

@BiasedSonyFan Let's not kid ourselves here. It sucks big time that this game isn't on the Switch. Let's not say "Oh, it sucks anyway", cause it just doesn't. It would have been a great addition to the Switch library. That doesn't mean the Switch is doomed or anything like that, but people need to stop with the mentality that any game that doesn't make it onto the Switch sucks. I would take RE7 over 1-2 Switch or Arms any day.

@Megas What the hell are you even talking about? How does that even relate to my post?

@BiasedSonyFan @faint lol oh god not with this again. The Nintendo Switch is quite literally being positioned by Nintendo (for better or worse) as a HOME console. Look it up, its right there on Nintendo's own site. H-O-M-E console.

Also, RE7 is not a bad game. This is fact. The reviews will bear this out. See, the thing is, 'bad' implies there is something fundamentally wrong on a technical level. The problem we run into is that bad is often used incorrectly to display a subjective based distaste for something in lieu of proper grammar.

@KirbyTheVampire don't mind @biasedsonyfan; he is quite frequently off base in many of his assessments on this site.

@Jessica286 I did not generalize. If I did that would be saying Nintendo is losing ALL their fans, will 100% fail and presenting it as fact. Which I didn't. I only said the "flop" seems more likely now due to the reasons I already stated and that they are losing the interest of "die-hard" fans - those that buy anything as long as it is Nintendo related no matter the price or functionality. Not that those fans and other people interested won't buy the Switch.

@gatorboi352 this is only because of the 3ds. You know this right? That thing is on its way out by 2018. Have you never heard or seen Nintendo say one thing and do another? Lmao

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Who said it couldn't play it. Your jumping to your own conclusions. Sounds like someone's been drinking the haterade. I'm sure the reason why it's not getting it is because they have other plans at the moment, because , well...they said that. A new console is not going to get every AAA title at launch when developers are busy working on current systems. The XB1 and PS4 suffered a similar fate as the Switch at launch. Eventually, as sales started to pick up more games started to come. Hopefully, that's how it works out for the Switch.

Sounds like they're waiting to see how the console sells. Disappointed, but if the Switch gets off to a good start then there's no reason why they shouldn't bring it - or 'Origins' over.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Video watched. They're pulling that price tag out of their rear. Capcom hasn't announced anything yet, and the only source related to that price I can find is this tweet's pic, which could easily be a fake: https://twitter.com/gatoray_kof/status/819791724692185088

@BinaryFragger I bet you that toon will be different next year when the 3ds is dead.

@BiasedSonyFan "People need to stop with the mentality that a certain video game has to be on the Switch in order for the Switch to sell well."

It's bigger than this one game. Your problem is you think too small. Resident Evil not coming to Switch is a SYSTEMIC problem. It speaks towards a bigger issue that Nintendo is facing in regards to 3rd parties in general. How you cannot fathom this is beyond me.

"Yes, the same gamers who don't put stock into official Nintendo statements now believe Nintendo's PR."

Eh? PR? It's literally listed, everywhere, as the successor to Wii U as their next HOME console. This is not one in the same as Nintendo, in a single interview with some guy, stating that DS was a 3rd pillar.

"It cannot be pegged into the home console market." Welp, take that complaint up with Nintendo because no one told them to position it as such. They also can't seem to stop talking about how much of a home console it actually is either: http://www.polygon.com/2016/10/20/13347910/nintendo-switch-home-gaming-system

@Megas Fair enough. I only got a 3DS after the New variant, so I cannot disagree with your strategy! A pc is also a great platform for gaming and has been an incredible compliment to Nintendo systems for me. I simply cannot see a place for PS4 or xbox 1 in my life right now.

I expected as much, no proper third-party support on Switch either.

After the absence of 5 and 6 on Nintendo systems, but with Revelations and the Chronicle games doing reasonably well, I wouldn't be surprised to hear about VII. showing up on Switch come E3.

However, the engine they're working in now might not be ideal for that kind of porting and scaling task.

@Marakuto YES YES YES! I don't care for RE4 onwards to be honest

@DanteSolablood I know the Wii U is still way too expensive, I was just saying to the original poster that the Switch isn't cheaper. That's all.

And so it begins...

@Megas Hmm, good point.

@RainbowGazelle I understand that, if I thought any different I may have added a couple more paragraphs. However, some places are still selling the Wii U for around £300 in store... to be honest Nintendo should be the cheapest place to get a Wii U.

@jimi Outside of the underused gamepad second screen, what is it the Switch can't do that the Wii U can? You mention tons of stuff, so that's what, 10/15 different things?

As for the third party support, you're probably right. 3 Ubisoft game, 2 EA games, 1 Activision game and a few other third parties. However, the Switch seems to have a lot more games in development than the Wii U ever did... personally I think the Switch is releasing far too early rather.

@KidRad Super SF2 Turbo HD Remix does indeed had classic mode as well. The difference between Ultra and HD Remix is the character artwork (not the sprite but the portraits), while HD Remix use the ugly Udon comic book artwork, Ultra SFII completely re-rendered all the Super Turbo character artwork in HD. It would be nice if it came out at $30 but at $40 that's not too bad.

If there's an article for every game not on the Switch, we're going to need a bigger boat.
Nintendo is just going to have to step it up. I personally haven't been happy with many of their first party releases lately. Some of these are farmed out, but they still put their stamp on them. These Mario Party games, Mario Olympics etc are tarnishing the Nintendo name. Quality has went down....just look at the average review score of recent Nintendo games. I'm sure somebody will say there's some media bias against Nintendo.
It also baffles me as to why Nintendo can't have one of these Pokemon games ready. I don't play any of these Pokemon games but they would sell. The Switch is portable....why isn't there a Pokemon game that incorporates some Pokemon Go gameplay into a traditional Moon/Sun/Grass/Dirt whatever game. In fact, why aren't there games that have you go outside and farm materials or items to use in a normal style game? Nintendo can't compete with PS4 or Xbox at home. They need things that really sell the portability.

WiiU all over again...

Wait for the Switch to sell gangbusters.....

Edit: That said I'm glad they said SOMETHING about supporting the Switch after the many articles talking about the Switch. That was driving me nuts.

@BinaryFragger they are doing this to squeeze the last bit of money out of those 3ds. They don't need to call it a portable. Just about every pro switch YouTuber is making videos talking about taking it on trains or to the park etc.

@KidRad
Exactly. And Nintendo knows most of us have other consoles. So, again, I really don't care what 3rd parties say. And it's funny because I mostly play only 3rd party games on Sony or Microsoft systems but not their first party games. Nintendo is the opposite for me, I like their 1st party games. And if 3rd parties make something unique to the Switch that appeals to me then I'll buy it.

Off topic but did anyone play Nioh The Last Chance Trial this weekend? I had a blast with it! Even though I died a ton.

well I wouln't buy RE7 though.
Come on capcom, give us something like revelations duology with the dlc included, its an easy port and probably will sell decently.

@jimi Well, that's not a list, that's a grammatical nightmare. I'll try as best as I can to pick readable bits out of that.

-Mandatory Smartphone for VC meaning data fees at home: Why? Do you not have WiFi at home? How do you use the Voice Chat on your Wii U, after all this is meant to be a list of things the Wii can do that the Switch can't.

-Paid online: This is annoying, but if you get real voice chat & a much better online experience then is it actually a problem. Plus how much are they charging? You seem to know by your outrage.

-No web browser/Miiverse: Has it been confirmed there would be no web browser? I know there is not Netflix streaming, but that is completely different to an actual browser. As for Miiverse, that only matters if you gave a poop about Miiverse. Not all of us did.

-Weak hardware/design, no touchscreen in dock: A weak design is personal opinion, though your issue with a lack of touchscreen while it's docked is likely fixed through the motion controls which are supposedly multiple times more accurate than the Wii U according to people that have used them. Much like Trauma Centre replacing touch controls with the Wiimotes. Or... you could just take it out of the dock.

-No backward compatibility: Well it can't be backward compatible with the Wii U as spinning disks can reduce battery life by 3/4, you think it's bad now? As for the 3DS, Nintendo is using a new chip architecture to make it easier to develop for... if you think it's just a case of making a hole in the thing the right size for a 3DS cart you're wildly wrong. Plus there is no "right" to backwards compatibility, no NES to SNES, no SNES to N64, no N64 to Gamecube, PS3, try fitting a PSP game into a Vita!

-Rumble gimmick... yeah, like the D-Pad gimmick, the original rumble pack gimmick, the analogue stick gimmick, the touchscreen gimmick and motion control gimmick. As a Nintendo fan you must HATE gimmicks by now!

-Third parties running away: When was this a thing? To run away you have to STOP developing for it. Capcom are providing games and will likely continue... if anything it's the Wii U that's causing developers to be cautious.

-Option region lock: The Vita had an optional region lock, the DS & Gameboy Advance had an optional region lock, I believe the PS4 has an optional region lock. Every region free handheld & console has given the developer the option to choose if it has a region lock. It seems you're taking terms you don't understand and applying blind hate to them. Interesting.

I could go into all the rest, but I genuinely had to go out during the typing of this & want to enjoy my evening meal. However, a lot of your complaints seem to be either be self-entitled or a little ignorant on the topic. I do agree Nintendo should have taken a small hit on the price... but it doesn't sound like ANY price point or feature set would have appealed to you.

BTW, I asked for a list of the "tons" of things the Wii U could do that the Switch couldn't do. Out of that list I don't think I saw one.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but all of these developers commenting about their current games that have just launched or will be in the coming months that will not be on the SWITCH is just industry speak for "we want to see if the attach rate of the console is high before we start work on porting" Some developers like the Titan Fall guys are just not willing to dumb down their visions of their games to weaker versions to suite the SWITCH.

Yet this is exactly the kind of game Nintendo needs to get on its brand new console imo:

http://www.inceptional.com/2017/01/23/looks-like-resident-evil-7-is-hit-with-the-critics/

I really hope Capcom decides to put the game on Switch, somehow, and that other third party developers end up putting their big AAA titles on the console too.

PS. The game is already on PSVR, and will probably come to other VR platforms too at some point, which demonstrably shows that it's not just hardware sales figures that matter to AAA third party developers and publishers but genuinely being excited about the hardware and actually being able to put their cutting-edge games on the system without too much hassle and pain as well.

Do you understand, Nintendo, and indeed, Nintendo fanboys?

But RE VII is not a reboot.

@MarcelRguez
I think you are right, I fall into group 3. My first experience with the big N was playing goldeneye with my friends. We would have sleep overs and pretend to go to bed so we could get up after mom went to sleep, and game all night!

I haven't had a Nintendo console since, I am as big of a Sony guy as there is, I even have the vita(may god rest its soul). But I preordered the switch as well as my room mate because we think it can bring back those golden eye feelings, and the potential gaming on the guy for a young professional is exciting.

Idk if RE7 is any good, but the Switch needs to get blockbuster games on board. Having a few blockbusters available can make the diff between a potential sale, and a wait and see.

First post btw 😎

@BiasedSonyFan I don't care that much about RE7. Horror games aren't really my thing, simply because they only usually last a few hours, and I don't find them all that interesting. However, it does suck because a lot of people care about RE7, and it would impress a lot of people if games like that came to the Switch. Plus, it just adds fuel to the fire when it comes to the concern about the Switch's 3rd party support. It's gonna be an indie/JRPG heaven, but to say that a lack of large AAA games is fine or a good thing is ludicrous. Many people would pay a lot of money to play games like Red Dead Redemption 2, GTA V, and Mass Effect Andromeda on a portable system.

I'm not saying it's bad because I'm a big Resident Evil fan. I've never even played a Resident Evil game in my life. I'm just saying it sucks, and adds yet another game to the list of large AAA games that will never be on the Switch. Again, I know there are other platforms out there that can play said games, but that doesn't mean it's a positive that they're not on the Switch. It is most certainly a negative.

@Rumncoke25 Yeah, I think they're trying to bring that face-to-face multiplayer focus to the forefront, based on the design of the console itself and some of its games. I'm all for that, it has always been a big strength of Nintendo consoles.

About the games, I'm sure it'll have blockbuster titles, only Japanese ones instead of games like Rockstar, Bethesda or EA games. Western support is not going to be great outside of indie titles, and the more Westernized Japanese publishers like Capcom will get away with making half-commitments.

Other than that, glad to be your first. Welcome to Nintendo Life

I think it’s understandable. RE7 relies heavily on atmosphere, an aspect that would be lost if you decided to play the game away from home. Capcom has already confirmed games for the Switch. It’s not like they’re snubbing the system. The game would be released a month after the other systems anyway. Which would really hurt the sales of it if they decided to release it on the Switch.

I still say after the launch hype, this system will definitely drop big time with sales. It's just not getting the really big third party games, and the only one it has, Skyrim, is a game you can get on consoles from 2005/6! And the third party games the Switch is getting are just downloadable unheard of games, and games like Steep and that no one gives a crap about. I thought I would never say this in my life, but even though Nintendo makes good money, their hardware sucks, their third party relations suck, they way they do business is WAY out dated, and Miyamoto hasn't had a good idea in freakin' years.

@jimi Interesting, you insult someone by asking if they can not think straight, yet say Nintendo could have made "an optional disc drive to the dock and then get backward compatibility that way" so what you're asking for... after whining about the cost & having to pay for expensive controllers and accessories... is an additional disk drive that you couldn't use in portable mode? Genius!! Calling someone an idiot while contradicting yourself and being completely impractical at the same time.

As for the Switch costing more than the Wii U, only if you completely misunderstand things in your favour. The basic Wii U with 8GB of storage launched at £259 in the UK and came with one controller/gamepad. The premium Wii U launched in the UK £309 in the UK with 32GB storage, one controller/gamepad. The Switch is launching at £280 in the UK with two controllers/joycons. So yes, the Wii U with less memory, less stuff in the box cost less, especially if you completely ignore inflation as a thing

BTW nice work on amending your post after I commented to make yourself look less stupid, though isn't it a little hypocritical calling someone unable to read/think while yourself being unable to write? I do have a copy of your original comment I'd be happy to quote it.

The HD Rumble as much as you call it a gimmick is already going to be in more than 2 games, 1 2 Switch, Arms & Capcom have stated they are developing a game where you can feel what you're slicing through using the HD Rumble. Calling something a gimmick before actually trying it or seeing how it works out is EXACTLY what happened with D-Pads, analogue sticks and even Polygons (see Sega & the Sega Saturn). Who's being silly here, the person waiting to see how something works or the person throwing his toys out of the pram without even know what they're like??

BTW on your things the Wii U has but the Switch doesn't you really do start with the most ludicrous thing. The Wii U had a replaceable battery but the Switch doesn't... do you actually comprehend how ridiculous it is comparing a 3 volt button-cell battery that ran the Wii U's antiquated clock, that would have a tough time running a fitbit with the battery in the Switch that runs the entire console? Why don't you take your Wii U down to the park and play it for at least 3hrs on that battery?

A lot of the others are personal opinion or ignorance.. like the Gamepad being able to be charged while in use, so can the Switch. You can plug it in using a USB-C cable and play it, even on the go from a battery pack.

Plus to top it all off you start off by complaining about using your phones mobile data... but don't have a smartphone & eff all knowledge of what you're talking about. Congratulations, you're proved you have no manners, change your comments to point score and to top it all off throw crap through your own ignorance. And yes, I'm being a little rude myself... but is it any wonder?

This is a shame. Resi 5 and 6 were the reasons I got a 360.

Resident Evil is my all time favorite franchise. I'm able to play 0,1,4, 5, 6, and Revelations on my xbox one. Its going to very hard for Nintendo to convince Capcom to bring over any RE game if the Switch user base isn't huge and actually willing to purchase third party games.

@nhSnork , if Capcom dropped a Revelations 1 and 2 pack, with the possibility of a third, I would think very hard about the switch. And I've played through those games. They are excellent.

@setezerocinco
So was the wii u. That turned out really great right?

This is really too bad. I would absolutely buy this on my Switch.

Bummer. But not worth fretting about. Buy the Switch, wait or don't buy it. I'm in. Hopefully it works out. Time will tell.

@jimi Don't be stupid, we both know you were talking about an optical disk drive. Either you're unable remember your own arguments or you're deliberately playing dumb.

Not Quite Resident Here But Just As Evil.

@jimi Yup & the guy who was whining about paying for additional functions & gimmicks want to pay for another one which also happens to be impractical. Switch... the hybrid console you can play at home or on the go, unless you want to play your Wii U games, then you have to sit next to your dock or else you lose half your game library.

You sir, truly are a genius!

@BinaryFragger good point about Wii U.. but dreamcast didn't fail.. sega pulled the plug.. it was selling pretty good.. its just that sega was in huge debt and could not sustain itself against PlayStation 2.

@jimi And do you know what whining about additional products/costs... and then wanting an additional product means? You're a hypocrite. The worst thing is that if Nintendo did create an add-on optical disk drive you'd accuse them of "holding your games library to ransom".

What a self-entitled whiner you are. The fact that you struggle to make coherent arguments & then resort to insults, negativity and accusing anyone that doesn't agree with you of being a "shill" just goes to show that you don't have the ability to hold a polite discussion. You must be a delight to your friends, no wonder you only want one controller.

@jimi I did start replying to your previous post, but of course you didn't give me the chance to respond. So here's what I'd typed up to that point:

Ah, you've found another means of trying to insult/undermine me because your argument is too weak to stand for itself. Well done, hope it works out for you! Nope, I'm not a paid shill, just a grownup. One of us has to be.

"Fact is: you were able to get a Wii U, with full backward compatibility and cheaper controllers and no smartphone requirement and no monthly peer-to-peer fees for less than you can get the Switch."

Fact is: You were able to get a weaker console with less advanced controllers, no portability, no capacitive multitouch, no kickstand, no 720p screen, no wiimote functionality in it's pro controller, no HD Rumble, no dock, no USB-C port and less than a quarter of the storage for a whole £40 less at launch (less than the cost of a 32GB SD card at the time)... such an awesome deal!

"BS, you have to be a paid shill. You are getting 2 halves of a controller. Put them together and wow, you got 1 single controller."

Why would you want to play Zelda with one joycon? But yes, we know you can play Mario Kart 8 Deluxe with one joycon. In fact the joycons each have four face buttons, a stick & shoulder buttons so it's likely you would technically be able to play Zelda with one... why are you thinking of selling a joycon?

"Point is: people were able to buy a high capacity battery and/or 3rd party battery and replace the Wii U's standard battery with it and thus extending the battery life. Which includes fixing a dead battery."

Yup, "blah blah blah" pretty much sums up your argument. The Wii U gives you the fantastic ability to change the 25p 3v battery that runs the internal clock (which the Wii U can run without), fresh 1970s Wii U technology. The Wii U & Switch batteries are NOT comparable in the least.. not only can you play your Wii U without the battery, but it's only removable because it's old unreliable technology. I guess not having a smartphone you missed the point when almost ALL brands of smartphone started moving to non-removable batteries because they allow the batteries to be bigger & the console itself to be sturdier. These are benefits (you know, the reason why Apple, HTC, Hauwei, Samsung, Sony and many other mobile device manufacturers make phones with non-removable batteries?).

"Good thing I was talking about the joy-joys then."

I apologise, you didn't exactly make yourself clear on that subject. Just to check though.. the joycons have 20 hours of battery life. During those 20 hours are you never going to be plugging them back onto the Switch to charge? You're right, this could be a genuine problem for those 24hr gaming sessions.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE

"This right here is partly why the Switch will fail. It's €330, hasn't even come out yet and can't play all the current games. Where are all the AAA big third party games? "

And... so what? Who here really cares about a 1st person RE? This game was made to take advantage of the PSVR and Nintendo hasn't even announced any plans to introduce VR with the Switch yet. So this announcement shouldn't come as a surprise, and shouldn't be used as evidence to fuel yet another Nintendo doom and gloom conspiracy.

So far, Switch's gettin' a Sonic, lots of Dragon Quest love, Just Dance 2017, FIFA, and NBA 2K18 to name a few. Like'em or not, those are high selling, third party IP.

As long as the Switch "has games" it'll do fine. Did the 3DS ever get a port of the PS Vita's Assassin's Creed 3: Liberation? No, and... it didn't need it. Granted, 3rd party support is very important to any piece of gaming hardware, but if Switch eventually gets a 3DS style library... who cares about the games it doesn't get.

See, the problem with Nintendo's consoles of late, including Switch it seems, is that most gamers outside of hardcore Nintendo fans want and expect to see all these huge AAA third party titles on their consoles (plus a whole bunch of other AAA third party games that came at/near the end of last year as well as a few more new and upcoming games I've clearly forgotten to mention):

Resident Evil 7
Titanfall 2
Tekken 7
Mass Effect: Andromeda
South Park: The Fractured But Whole
Red Dead Redemption 2
Prey
Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite
Destiny 2
Assassin's Creed: Empire
Far Cry 5
Battlefront 2
Mafia 3
Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare
Dishonored 2
Assassin's Creed: Ezio Collection
Watch Dogs 2
Dark Souls III
Doom
Street Fighter V
Final Fantasy XV
Overwatch
. . .

And the huge issue is that Nintendo's console basically aren't getting them.

@impurekind

"See, the problem with Nintendo's consoles of late, including Switch, is that most gamers outside of hardcore Nintendo fans want and expect to see all these huge third party titles on their consoles:"

And to that I say... tough nooggies. History dictates they'd be better served to temper their expectations in this instance. Switch'll eventually end up with its own unique library, like every Nintendo hardware device before it. The Sega Genesis didn't get most of the SNES's third party hits... and it still had a great library.

@jimi

"Hint: gimmick rumble is not optional. Everyone needs to pay for it."

Dude, did you make a similar argument when pack-in controllers made buying consoles more expensive because they were wireless? Did you wish Nintendo would've dropped the analog stick from their controller just so you could've saved money on buying an N64?

How are you going to knock a company that has a proven history of consistently producing hardware devices that drive innovation within its industry? If it's too expensive to upgrade just stick with your 3DS/Wii U.

@Turbo857 Still, the point is that Nintendo should be working way harder to make sure as many of those huge third party games are on its systems as humanly possible if it seriously wants to compete in this day and age, and win the minds and hearts of most gamers outside of their core and most loyal fans—and the Wii U says that's an extremely important thing to do. Although, I guess a bunch of hardcore fanboys and casuals might argue the Wii says otherwise—not me.

@impurekind

....within reason. But wouldn'tcha say Nintendo is making strides in that department in comparison to the Wii U already? Switch support Unity and Unreal engines - Wii U didn't. You are already seeing third parties who have never developed for a Nintendo console before, pledging support for the Switch.

But realistically, the Switch is a weaker system than its competitors. It ain't gonna get every big third party game but it will get some and some exclusives.

Wii U was poorly marketed and didn't fail just because it didn't have big third party games on it. It failed partly because it "barely" had any third party games on it.

@Turbo857 No, I wouldn't, and that's the point. The Switch, so far, isn't leaving me confident at all that it's going to be any better than Wii U in terms of the big AAA third party support going forward. EA also promised it would support the Wii U, and look how that turned out. Ubisoft had ZombiU at Wii U's launch, and the system still didn't get a bunch of big AAA third party games in its lifespan. Wii U launched with 30 games; Switch is launching with 6. Etc, etc, etc.

Even 3DS has 2 RE games available on it, so honestly I wouldn't worry just yet.

Very keen to pick this up on PS4 this week. This would be too scary for the Nintendo babies anyway!

Not the least bit surprising and nothing was ruled out. Capcom will look at the numbers the game does on the platforms it's already been developed for, wait to see if Switch takes off and I'm sure if both the game and the Switch are hits we'll see a port by the end of this year, early next. Resident Evil has a deeper history on Nintendo platforms than MS platforms, so my guess is it's better than 50/50 that the inevitable 'RE 7: Complete Edition' sees a Switch release.

@Alexprime http://www.pushsquare.com/reviews/ps4/resident_evil_7_biohazard

I guess a game is only "bad" when not on or coming to your console, its a Resi game its hardly unlikely to fail especially after good reviews.

@impurekind

"Wii U launched with 30 games"

And... the 3DS launched with a mere 8 titles. It's sitting at 60 million units sold today. Apparantly, launch title quantity isn't correlated with, nor guarantee a console's success.

"The Switch, so far, isn't leaving me confident at all that it's going to be any better than Wii U in terms of the big AAA third party support going forward"

When the Switch sells, third parties will increase their support. The Switch is launching with 7 games so far - and one of them is the biggest most beautiful Zelda game Nintendo has ever made. A Zelda game that you can play anywhere. The 3DS started turning around after Ocarina of Time 3D came to the system. And due to the Switch's portability alone, there's no reason why it won't eventually achieve 3DSlike numbers. If you drop the dock, you can sell it for $199. It's virtually built to be a success.

Meh, just release Tatsunoko vs Capcom 2 as a switch exclusive and all is forgiven. Oh, and powerstone 3.

@Ichiban I'm one of those Nintendo babies! I knew I'd never play this game so I just watched all the boss fights on YouTube. How the hell do people play this in VR?! :S

@faint

I wouldn't be so quick to bury the 3DS. It's selling above 2015 when it sold more than 7.5M units. There is a chance that it sells more than the Switch this year. Notwithstanding, 3DS is 240p, not 1080p like the Switch. So it's much much easier to make games for the 3DS. It's not a 1-1 where 1 game for the 3DS means 1 less for the Switch.

Not sure if it was ever brought up, but it appears that the statement was stolen and misquoted. The director never actually said it wasn't in the works or there were no plans. The Express page was published Jan 23rd, whereas the Gamereactor page it was stolen from was published Jan 18th.

https://www.gamereactor.es/noticias/362543/El+creador+de+Resident+Evil+7+valora+Nintendo+Switch/

Translated by another fellow: "we asked Koshi Nakanishi, the director of the game, if he had the opportunity to test the machine and what his feelings were, since RE7 is not announced for her. We confirmed that 'as an industry member, I had the opportunity to try Nintendo Switch before the presentation.' 'I think it's a unique hardware and I'll explore its possibilities,' he added, leaving an open door to working with her in the future Nakanishi has declared himself a follower of the company. 'I've always been a fan of Nintendo,'"

It seems folks have it out for Nintendo, so they are doing what they can to make things look grim.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE I just bought an Xbox1 a few months ago. It was a very, very hard decision since I've been a Nintendo-exclusive gamer all my life. But after the 3DS launch, the Wii staying standard definition so long (ruining Skyward sword, as it looks horrible on HD TV) and getting the shaft from Nintendo on WiiU... I got fed up.

I say all that, because now I don't have the same stress or pressure for Nintendo to go back to its Gamecube and prior days. I wish they would. I would LOVE to become a Nintendo gamer again, but games like this not releasing on Nintendo hardware are why I left.

I have grown to love my WiiU after a long love-hate relationship, and will be playing Zelda on it, and I'll play RE7 on my Nextbox, by the way, the demo is awesome. Scaryyyy and gets you excited for the game. I hope you have a box to play it on, because as the writer said, it looks very promising!!!

@DanteSolablood That was an epic Damage control post. You must be one of the firefighters round these parts.

@Yamyum I'm confused... why would you take the switch off the dock if it would ruin the experience? Just leave it docked. I want to know the real reason Switch isn't getting this game...

@Toph6661 the problem is is when devs get on board late, then they charge full price for their games when they hit the Nintendo consoles and Nintendo fans don't pay for them and bash them. This will spiral down hill quickly if Nintendo doesn't pull their head out of the sand and do something.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE
Yeah sorry about the name calling, but couldn't help but notice there is a lot of things you dislike about the switch. Obviously I appreciate your disappointment, but have AAA titles every really been there? Nintendo has always missed out on being the full package so this really is not a shocker.
I do think it would be a nice addition to have and would totally drive sales, but this is not maybe as big a deal for lots of people.

@Turbo857 And the 3DS had a relatively terrible start, so much so that Nintendo had to quickly and reluctantly drop it's price by nearly a third—that is a huge "switch"-around (pun intended)—and we also still had to get a few more genuinely big AAA first party titles before it finally started performing closer to expectations.

Is that seriously the kind of scenario that would sound healthy to you for Switch?

I'd rather all that stuff was nailed before there was ever a chance of something like that happening out of pure fear and desperation from Nintendo rather than anything else.

@impurekind

"Is that seriously the kind of scenario that would sound healthy to you for Switch?"

Nope, that doesn't sound healthy. But, I don't agree that Switch's launch is mirroring the 3DS's. You are forgetting the one key piece that was missing from the 3DS launch, that should be apart of every console launch = It had zero killer apps. There was not one single must own game available when 3DS launched. The Switch is launching with Zelda. You and other pessimists are seriously underestimating how huge that is. The last time Nintendo launched a Zelda, that console was a success.

Coming off the Wii U, I understand Switch skepticism. Traditionally when consoles launch regardless of the quantity or quality of games available, some people are gonna buy first day and some are gonna sit and wait. Regardless of which one of those camps you fall in... this thing is gonna be a hit and it will receive substantial 3rd party support.

@Turbo857 Nah, I get that Breath of the Wild is huge, but I think it's ultimately about as huge as Twilight Princess was on Wii, give or take. And, it wasn't Twilight Princess that sold over 100 million Wii's; that was the work of Wii Sports for the most part. To be fair though, even I do think Breath of the Wild is a bigger deal at Switch's launch than Twilight Princess was at Wii's launch, but that's largely because it's the only frikin' game most people are really going to give a crap about on launch day. Ultimately, I don't think basically this one game is going to guarantee anything beyond some decent launch numbers to largely the same hardcore Nintendo fans that were there on Wii U too—and that system didn't exactly blow the roof off. If this is Nintendo's gamble, mostly betting on one big first party port at launch, then I personally think it's a massive gamble and risk it's taking—and this success of this launch and beyond really shouldn't have been so up in the air imo.

@BiasedSonyFan I think all of that is a load of bull. There's zero reason Nintendo couldn't get back almost all of those huge third party developers and their AAA games, if it simply made more of the right moves instead of too many wrong ones. But I guess you'd have to see that to believe it—and the odds of that happening are slim.

@BiasedSonyFan Neither: Both of your examples are wrong and misguided.

@BiasedSonyFan Well, I think Nintendo could attract more Western third parties (the big ones and their AAA titles) if it didn't keep making some pretty stupid decisions with its consoles. It keeps making those decisions though, for whatever reasons. And it's not a mystery but it is maddening.

@BiasedSonyFan Occam's razor might suggest that the latter is much more likely than the former; I'm saying it's because Nintendo has repeatedly made certain decisions since the likes of the N64 era that are contrary to getting that major third party support, be it from stupidity or stubbornness or whatever. So, if Nintendo actually does want and is actively trying to get that major third party support for Switch this time around then, yes, maybe I do know better, as it seems like Nintendo isn't doing a particularly good job and I expect I probably could do a better one. But, hey, you can continue to believe Nintendo doesn't actually want those developers to put all their biggest and best games on the system, and that's why the Switch apparently isn't getting them, if that's what you need to believe to sleep at night.

@BiasedSonyFan that is NOT what the NeoGaf lastest forums mention but yeah ignore that in order to make ur point stand. The lastest report said it is basically an X1 basic model.

@BiasedSonyFan I'm sad you assume it can't possibly be possible that this could be the case, like it's impossible some other human being who isn't sitting behind a desk at Nintendo's HQ can possibly have any good/sensible ideas of their own that might even be better than the human beings sitting behind those desks at Nintendo. I dunno, maybe everyone working at Nintendo was granted magical powers unique to future Nintendo employees when they were born or something, and they are beyond all other fellow human beings on the planet in terms of knowing everything there is to know about games and the games industry. I guess no one at Nintendo can ever do anything stupid, but anyone that isn't at Nintendo is probably only doing stupid stuff—or something like that.

So, Nintendo not putting HD rumble is Breath of the Wild is obviously pure genius beyond the comprehension of normal men; and me suggesting Nintendo really should have included HD rumble in Breath of the Wild is obviously the ramblings of a mad man.

Oops! Wrong thread, but the point is still exactly the same: Just replace "blah blah rumble blah Zelda" with "blah blah not getting AAA third party games on Switch", or whatever.