Best thing would be if the successor to the switch would be backwards compatible... hope nintendo has got long term plans for the switch game cards and doesnt change formats with their next console
@Henmii I dont think theres quality issues involved. Its just they have made known about the irreplaceable bartery and just in case people wonder if they have to buy a new switch once the battery dies.
Truth be told I am actually very excited ☺ And like I said before if it werent for a couple of issues it might have been a day one pre-order no brainer. - I would have done that in order to support nintendo and not because of this amazing launch line up. I am basically interested in first party titles and these should be available at any time during the first two years so I am not risking to miss out on some titles. 2017 just has two major titles for me zelda and mario with mario coming out late this year. So its not that hard to wait. Actually I think playing zelda during the holidays season will be more fub than in march but thats pretty irrelevant. Moreover theres a couple of 3ds titles coming out from march until may. Eventually I will buy it regardless of how much I complain or if the system is gonna successful or not. Its just that I would feel stupid to support nintendo right away.
Actually I could deal with the laumch price and the lack of a pack in game if it werent for the greater picture and nintendos obvious reasoning behind it. Be that as it may I have made up my mind to wait and see how this whole thing developes.1
Thanks for the info. I havent thought about stocking up on batteries. which batteries did you buy? Any recommendations? Are 2ds and new 3ds batteries the same?
Maybe they should start licensing games. You buy zelda for 60£ and acquire the game with the right to use it for one year. After that you should pay another 30£ for another year. Thats actually a great idea considering how much money nintendo loses each and every time a game is sold second hand. By doing so it would make almost no sense to buy a game in used condition. More money for nintendo they should give this alternative milking method some thought.
@Yhdekskymmenen Exactly, family friendly shouldnt just refer to some games and parental controls it should refer to everything and especially pricing. Cant wait until it launches just to see how many people filled nintendos greed.
Scam or madness might have been the best words to describe their strategy. Greedy milking of its userbase lies within legal bounds and its up to the individual to decide if they want get milked or not. Actually one might simply not buy it and call it quits, but thats not what I want. I want the switch to become more affordable and I believe that consumers have a voice. The more people get their eyes opened and not buy it at the current conditions the sooner we get better deals and nintendo will take us more seriously, they might just start respecting us and provide more of what we actually want. Not too many people are aware of this, so its always good to provide counterarguments to make people realize. If everyone says, great job nintendo things wont get better any time soon. If nobody claims about the pricing nintendo might get the impression they should have set a higher price. Calling people cheap because they think its an unfair deal and voice their opinion is insulting imho. Nintendo is not doing a great job right now. Nobody complains for the sake of complaining. I would complain if everything was 20% cheaper, everything. Besides I believe, given the current launch line up and upcoming game schedules waiting for a price drop shouldnt be too hard. I will and I hope more people will do that. Its for the best.
They started the wii u unprepared. Probably thought it would sell like the wii and third parties would support it until its very end. Support was shifted to the switch and the 3ds. I cant really say it was that awesome. Business is business but if you buy a console you generally would like to see more support. When they launched the switch many people complained for obvious reasons and they were right. Now people complain for obvious reasons and they are right.
@Iggy-Koopa Its a natural reaction to a less consumer friendly trend. I think none of us would complain about a single issue but the whole is bigger than the sum of its parts and this whole can get quite expensive which might be an issue to many people who would like to play nintendo but cannot afford to support nintendos outspoken greediness. But thats just one way to look at it. Some people might care about this and all other issues as well and just buy it if they feel so inclined. However, the commercial failure of the wii u has caused nintendo to abandon it without any honor. There could have been many more games released but it wasnt profitable for nintendo. Games like stretchmo world being scrapped and development moved elsewhere like wii u tl 3ds ports. Just because the console didnt sell. They could have ar least provided some more games. But this strategy of no more games is probably meant as a motivation for wii u owners to buy the switch quite soon. So mass market appeal is important for a console to be successful and pricing is a huge part of it. Imagine people investing lots of money into the switch but due to nintendos missteps it fails like the wii u and ends up being abandoned again.
Nintendos pricing policy is risky both for nintendo and the people who buy the switch. Many people, me included, who might have bought it day one or in the launch window will just wait and see.
I hope we will not have to wait too long g ☺ In fact I am quite content with waiting a little longer. The only game that makes real sense is zelda whi h should be roughly the same on wii u. I have a huge backlog of games and there is still 3ds games coming out. Mk8 and splatoon will still be supported, so there is actually no real incentive for me to rush. When they finally drop prices there will be a greater game library available to choose from. So in the end I should win in all regards. Its a liitle bit sad cause this would have been otherwise a day one purchase for me.
The general message of the switch is, you invest into a system which may or may not succeed it. Either way, you will have to pay a lot of money, short term and long term. And you are getting less bang for the buck compared to the competition (this might have been true in the past, but right now its more obvious and downright insolent).
Thats unknown. Still it has to be taken into account, the battery will eventually die and money will have to be paid in order to get it running again, at least in portable mode. And since it apparently wont be possible in the do it yourself way, well, money will have to be paid, for the battery, for the service, for the shipping, and that will amount to something, that might not necessarily be close to buying a new switch but still its gonna cost.
Just btw, saying somebody is childish because they realize that money milking is involved? Whats the relation here? Its rather foolish to accept everything for granted! Saying somebody is childish? What does it mean? Like I am a child, whose opinion doesnt need to be heeded because I am childish and not defending a corporation? , yeah right.
Complaining for the sake of complaining? Are you implying I am making this whole thing up because I have nothing else to do? I am complaing because there is a lot to complain about!
Look there is a lot of people who dont have an own opinion. By complaining I am speaking about reasonable reason of why this whole nintendo policy is not consumer friendly. So people who have no opinion of their own, will see arguments of reason and might veer one way or another. You are doing the same thing be defending it. Thats it. One person defends, another objects!
From what I can see, there is no real reason behind defending it, besides, its quality, joy cons are robust, yeah... its cool, its worth. You know what I am talking about!
No really, please do not insult peoples intelligence with those kind of arguments. Childish and stuff... Do you think it will make a point if I say, people who buy a switch at the current conditions are foolish? Its obvious, but you have to provide arguments. And nintendo has been giving lots of grounds for arguments against buying it. Its like an orgy of milking its fanbase.
I hold nintendo fans in high regard. To me, nintendo fans are something special. Its about people who value games, which are what they are. They are not full of gore and violence, they are not mainstream, they are familiy friendly. It takes a good person to appreciate things like that IMHO. And in this regard I think these people are being taken advantage of with the switch. And I think thats not right! Thats why I am speaking my mind. Its not about complaining for the sake of complaining. I was praising nintendo when it came to the wii u for the above reasons. But I cannot say that its ok whay they are doing right now, because its not ok.
No I am not complaining for the sake of complaining. Certain policies exist because people are complacent and accept things for granted. Products only sell if people will buy them. If people were in general more clever products and services would be better. Thats all there is to it. People like you who accept and defend it will not make it better, just give more power to greedy companies to continue with there schemes, scams, and money milking. Its sad, but thats the way its going. Otherwise microtransactions, which I have never taken part in, wouldnt have been possible. But companies can rely on people buying everything without reason.
Maybe its really time to move on and call it quits? Be content what is there and face the truth? I will see about that. Christmas will be the earliest date to get it IMO, probably even later. Nintendo is shooting in its knee here. The wii u was a sad thing, nintendo really cheaped out there, but it was the games who kept me convinced and I wished more would have been released for a IMO great console. But this one is like sucker punch for die-hard fans. Die-hard fans, not to be confused with fanboys.
I have a better idea! Offer replaceable batteries! Make a system where its easy for a consumer to replace the battery with little effort. Everything else is scam
Look, when they said the switch would launch in march I was absolutely sure I would buy it day one and play zelda on it. When it was fully revealed and all kinds of hidden, overpriced costs were made known. I was quite confused, didnt see that one coming. Like I always its not about being able to afford it. It was a feeling of being shortchanged. I thought they are really pushing it. I cant really justify this purchase at this conditions to me or anyone. When the wii u was doomed I bought it and even though I knew this is not going to be a winner I was actually quite happy with it, disappointed a little when they abandoned it. But this? The first time that I was contemplating calling it quits, call it whatever you want, but this is not really cool to me. I probably will buy it in the future, but I realize what they are doing here and will try to open the eyes of blind and ignorant people to see it it for what it is. And I do hope that nintendo either realizes it, changes policy, or be doomed and go multiplatform because that might be most beneficial for customers. Actually that might be the best option, you could just buy a ps4 for cheap, with a proper controller and no need to buy anything else for a proper gaming experience and have nintendo games play on it - I think that might the best option for all! Nintendo probably realized that, too. And thats why they want to cash in a last time. If sales wont work with the switch they will pull the plug, call it quits and release titles for other systems just as they went mobile.
Not necessarily - some systems need a working battery to run. Wouldnt be surprised if thats the case with the switch. More money for nintendo in the long run - could be vital.
Its funny All of this seems as if they sat down and discussed how they can make the most money possible, the most consumer unfriendly decisions apparently won. Fanboys will be definitely fine with it!
Just btw, this whole switch thing could be grounds for a study into fanboyizm - new levels have been reached I think.
Even though I will buy the switch in the end - I have never had so many thoughts about calling it quits. I am not buying sony or ms - but if this is the way nintendo is heading - I think I might just stick to what I have got, buy Zelda for wii u and play through my backlog which should last me for a couple of years.
Still a long time ahead of me to make that decision. It has never been harder to stay a fan of nintendo games as nowadays. Maybe nintendo wants to create another fanbase. Maybe this is all a sociological experiment trying to study the depths of human attachment to a brandname and how it copes with consumer unfriendly circumstances
@sdelfin And thats the point. They think how to get the most milk. But at least they are not so bad, I mean, they could have just said if the battery dies you have to buy another switch but they are so kind as to offer us paid battery replacement. Wonder what the difference will be between buying a new switch and that replacement.
They are umcommonly kind these days - they could have made the switch a one time only - when they battery is dead, then just buy another switch!
But no, they are so consumer friendly as to offer paid battery replacement. So kind of them.
Another hidden cost, not to mention, if you cant do it by yourself you have to send it in - pay the shipment - pay for the battery, pay for the replacement - pay for the shipment. Wonder what that will amount to?
Another hidden cost, just when I thought I knew it all
of course the service is better, much much better. Still, no matter how ridiculous this monthly rental thing is, paid online is not the worst thing in this scenario. But thats pretty subjective as I dont really care about it, some people might actually do care about free games, I dont. But I understand that it can put people off and most off all its another example of nintendos way of business - thats off-putting.
@sdelfin I dont like Iphones and I dont buy them. Mant children want an iphone because they think they will be cool if they own something that other childrens parents might not be able to afford. Is nintendo heading the same way?
@Yorumi I wouldnt look at it this way. If they want to charge some money for online services, well, of course free of charge would be better, but maybe its in a way necessary and if nintendos got any honor, they should deliver some better service. Maybe - maybe not, we will see. But imo, if they start charging for it, they should provide a good deal. Why come up with monthly rentals of reeeeaaaaaly old games most people have already played - is that meant as an incentive? How am I supposed to understand that? Is this like, we want to rip you off and want to see if you are stupid enough to jump on board - or - we are very kind to you and in addition to our great onlince service we are letting you test an nes or snes game for a month for free as a cherry on top, you should be glad.
Well, thats the impression to it? Which one is it? Is it a beneficial idea? A rip off? A laugh in your face?
Maybe they want to see if theres fanboys defending even that?
@Mogster
Well said, nintendo is a business. All business needs to make money but in the case of nintendo its reaching levels of greediness that are beyond reason IMHO and people shouldnt support it.
Their stingy mynintendo is a good example of a reward system gone wrong - ridiculous. Its much in line with their ridiculous pricing of the switch. They have become pretty insolent lately and I cant really understand how fans can feel fine with it. Of course, nintendo might also pay certain people to justify every (mis)step they make - we will never know.
Nintendo is actually pretty arrogant , they CAN make good games, and thats why I buy their consoles and games, but generally as a company they are not too friendly and certainly not our friends.
@remag NO thats not the problem, nobody ever said it needed to be free.
Look there is always gonna be two kinds of fans, some who will justify each and everything and then some who will critisize if there is something worth critisizing.
Its always been this way. There is no right or wrong in this scenario.
However, I do not like when people start insulting other people, that doesnt look too clever. Many sound arguments have been made on why the switch is overpriced, I think the point has been made. What I do like however, https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/01/nintendo_switch_dips_to_e299_on_amazon_france is the fact that if consumers stick together, they will achieve something. Many people are brought up to believe everything they get taught and to just accept things for what they are. I dont. And I am not afraid to stand up for what I believe, even if there is a whole bunch of fanboys who will attack my opinion and stuff. Its never wrong to enlighten people and open their eyes.
Clever people will appreciate, fools will hate - thats a universal truth.
Well, I dont care about the scorpio. But I think its gonna be very powerful and probably worth its money for those people who are interested in specs etc. And it wont require anything else for starters, besides maybe an extra pad if you need one. Take the ps4 pro for example, its much more powerful and yet it doesnt really cost much more than the switch. It doesnt need anything more besides games. No charging grip, no pro controller, the one that you get in the box is the one to go with. So in order for me to get my proper gaming experience with the switch I have to pay much more than with the ps4. And just in case, I am not gonna buy the ps4, otherwise I wouldnt be complaining here, I would have called it a day, bought something else, and be gone. I really hope it wont be too long until the price drops.
@remag Are you trolling here? Like I said, I am not really concerned about online play. I am concerned about the costs that actually were revealed. Well, maybe there are more hidden costs to come, I dont know about that. But those that already have been revealed are ridiculous. Its as stingy as it can get. Take the charging grip for example, so they have made two grips apparently, one that charges and one that doesnt charge. The one that doesnt charge comes in the box and the other one needs to paid separetely. I wonder what the difference of production costs will be between those two grips. Was it really that much of a difference? Couldnt they have included that charging grip with the switch? Is it like maybe not too many people would actually need a charging grip?
Is this charging grip an alternative option for those people who dont want to have their switch idle for a couple of hours and continue playing? I dont really see the point of not including the charging grip.
Or think about reggie, they couldnt include a game, because they really wanted a good price for the switch. Yeah, right, who is gonna believe that ceo talk? I mean they could have at least included some vc games which everyone already owns, or better include mario sunshine vc. But why give something for free when they can charge a lot of money for it. Its not like they are the general underdog when it comes to home consoles nowadays.
@remag If you feel like buying it, then buy it. I will wait. Would it be our fault if we dont buy an overpriced product? Or would it be nintendos fault? Why should I pay for their faults? I think people want the switch to succeed at all costs, they can!
But why not say, yes, its very pricy, I would like to have it cheaper, I would like to get a better deal, make it more appealing for the mass market which would definitely help making it a huge success. However, I am such a loyal nintendo fan, that I am than willing to pay that price of admission...
... instead of justifying it the wrong way IMO. If its overpriced, which it is, the pricepoint is something that the whole internet is complaining about, and rightly so.
IMHO it would be better if consumers, nintendo fans stuck together and caused nintendo to drop the price much sooner.
The majority of any society is not that bright IMO. :) Anyway, I wouldnt call people not bright because they dont (yet) see the same thing you and I see, or have a different opinion or something. I think its about fanboyizm. Like we all know there is people who actively take part in the console wars,ps4 is better than xb1, no xb1 is better. These people are probably very seldom paid to do so, they are doing it because they need confirmation that they have made the right choice (you have the same thing with religious beliefs, even though thats a little bit more complicated). In regard to the switch, and thats a completely new experience , there is a whole new situation going on.
@truth be told, I am not concerned with online gaming at all. When I want to play splatoon or mk8 and need to pay for it, well, then I probaly will pay for it, unless its gonna cost double of what the competition charges (because in that case I think it would be stupid). I am more concerned about the pricing. Even though I could afford it, its not what I would like to pay for it and its definitely not what its worth. Nintendo could have done much better pretty easily. Right now it seems they want to make a lot of money whatever way possible — its a business yes, but its not good for the consumer. Actually I believe, that its gonna be sold out in the beginning. But after that sales will become very slow until christmas and a price cut will be inevitable - and thats when I will buy it. Actually, more and better games will be available later on that will be able to choose from. Good things come to those who wait.
So what you are implying is that all people who complain are blind and ignorant. Yeah, funny thing is, I have never seen so many people on the internet complain a about a price, they must have all been struck with blindness and ignorance. Nintendo can indeed charge what they want, and people who actually do have an own opinion might voice it and say what is on their mind. And like I said before, its not about the 300 dollars that people complain its about lots of smaller things that create a bigger picture, which apparently some people arent able to see. And its definitely not about getting something for nothing, otherwise you can just go and steal the switch from somebody. I think its about honest people who have to work for their money and want value for it, tangible value. Nintendo should be happy that there are fans out there who want to buy their switch. They need them. IMO they should make this deal as attractive as possible, but they are behind their competition in about everything, specs, third party support, pricing, online service, etc. Yeah, of course people might say if the competition is better than buy xb1 or ps4, but thats totally not the point and very rude to say. This is about fellow nintendo gamers who want a better deal. Remember, this is an investment into a gimmicky technology attached to what might become a great system. This gimmicky and most of all pricy technology might neve be used in any meaningful way - remember the wii u gamepad - a highly unnecessary item, that made a very cheap console overpriced, never became a hit, not only third parties rejected it, also nintendo failed to support it (think star fox). When they introduced it, ceo-talk said its a revolution, when the wii u was dead they simply admitted what everyone was saying at first, that its a failure which hinders gaming. So not too special in the end.
Exactly! I dont think anyone would complain about a price of 300 dollars, pounds or euros, even without a game, if it wasnt for the hidden costs and the new pricing policy of games. Online play doesnt really matter imho. The competition is doing it, so if its for much better service, well, so be it. Monthly nes/snes rentals seem ridiculous. Of course people might say everythings ok, nintendo is running a business and has the right to charge whatever they want, and people who complain about prices should start birdwatching if they cant afford it. But these people are completely missing the point IMHO, pure fanboyizm if you ask me. Critical thinking will not harm anyone. The whole pricing policy is ridiculous and thats the truth.
hidden costs increase the price a lot. So its not surprising at all that people complain. Prices are subjective and judging by certain posts on this site there are people who are willing to pay any price just to get their nintendo fix and will justify just about every one of nintendos missteps. Yes, the nintendo switch is expensive.
Been looking forward to this game. Will buy it day one with pikmin together. Rumour has it theres gonna be one card included . Will see what it does. I will definitely not buy any of those cards. Amiibo cards? I just own the mario maker amiibo, still sealed but I recognize its collective and display value. But amiibo cards? And just related to one, I would say minor game, give me a break!
Wonder if a lack of amiibo cards will have a negative impact on this game, sounds like another form of microtransactions. Do these cards affect other games as well or is it just related to this game?
I think you have a point, nintendo has shoehorned themselves. On the other hand they have created a fantastic gaming experience. To me their games are about fun. Some people say they are for kids, to me they are for everybody. Its not about kids games but about games that everyone can enjoy and have fun. When it comes to third parties I must say that not all games (that get great reviews) are fun to play, they are mostly about graphics, gore and violence. Nintendo is like safehaven for a different gamer, one who values different aspects in gaming and is willing to pay for a game that ps4 or xb1 gamers wouldnt spend a dollar on and maybe vice versa. I like that nintendo didnt follow trends but set trends themselves, sometimes they succeed, sometimes not. They make a lot of mistakes with marketing and their approach to their fans is not always spot on. But their games are still great to me, and thats why I will eventually buy the switch even though its gonna be more expensive than I thought.
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Best thing would be if the successor to the switch would be backwards compatible... hope nintendo has got long term plans for the switch game cards and doesnt change formats with their next console
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@Henmii
I dont think theres quality issues involved. Its just they have made known about the irreplaceable bartery and just in case people wonder if they have to buy a new switch once the battery dies.
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@Ralizah
Truth be told I am actually very excited ☺
And like I said before if it werent for a couple of issues it might have been a day one pre-order no brainer. - I would have done that in order to support nintendo and not because of this amazing launch line up. I am basically interested in first party titles and these should be available at any time during the first two years so I am not risking to miss out on some titles. 2017 just has two major titles for me zelda and mario with mario coming out late this year. So its not that hard to wait. Actually I think playing zelda during the holidays season will be more fub than in march but thats pretty irrelevant. Moreover theres a couple of 3ds titles coming out from march until may.
Eventually I will buy it regardless of how much I complain or if the system is gonna successful or not. Its just that I would feel stupid to support nintendo right away.
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@Ralizah
Actually I could deal with the laumch price and the lack of a pack in game if it werent for the greater picture and nintendos obvious reasoning behind it. Be that as it may I have made up my mind to wait and see how this whole thing developes.1
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@Ralizah
Actually I meant that I wouldnt complain
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@DragonEleven
Thanks for the info. I havent thought about stocking up on batteries. which batteries did you buy? Any recommendations?
Are 2ds and new 3ds batteries the same?
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Maybe they should start licensing games. You buy zelda for 60£ and acquire the game with the right to use it for one year. After that you should pay another 30£ for another year. Thats actually a great idea considering how much money nintendo loses each and every time a game is sold second hand. By doing so it would make almost no sense to buy a game in used condition. More money for nintendo they should give this alternative milking method some thought.
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@Yhdekskymmenen
Exactly, family friendly shouldnt just refer to some games and parental controls it should refer to everything and especially pricing. Cant wait until it launches just to see how many people filled nintendos greed.
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@Ralizah
Scam or madness might have been the best words to describe their strategy. Greedy milking of its userbase lies within legal bounds and its up to the individual to decide if they want get milked or not.
Actually one might simply not buy it and call it quits, but thats not what I want. I want the switch to become more affordable and I believe that consumers have a voice. The more people get their eyes opened and not buy it at the current conditions the sooner we get better deals and nintendo will take us more seriously, they might just start respecting us and provide more of what we actually want. Not too many people are aware of this, so its always good to provide counterarguments to make people realize. If everyone says, great job nintendo things wont get better any time soon. If nobody claims about the pricing nintendo might get the impression they should have set a higher price. Calling people cheap because they think its an unfair deal and voice their opinion is insulting imho. Nintendo is not doing a great job right now. Nobody complains for the sake of complaining. I would complain if everything was 20% cheaper, everything. Besides I believe, given the current launch line up and upcoming game schedules waiting for a price drop shouldnt be too hard. I will and I hope more people will do that. Its for the best.
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@scamander
They started the wii u unprepared. Probably thought it would sell like the wii and third parties would support it until its very end. Support was shifted to the switch and the 3ds. I cant really say it was that awesome. Business is business but if you buy a console you generally would like to see more support. When they launched the switch many people complained for obvious reasons and they were right. Now people complain for obvious reasons and they are right.
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@Iggy-Koopa
Its a natural reaction to a less consumer friendly trend. I think none of us would complain about a single issue but the whole is bigger than the sum of its parts and this whole can get quite expensive which might be an issue to many people who would like to play nintendo but cannot afford to support nintendos outspoken greediness.
But thats just one way to look at it. Some people might care about this and all other issues as well and just buy it if they feel so inclined.
However, the commercial failure of the wii u has caused nintendo to abandon it without any honor. There could have been many more games released but it wasnt profitable for nintendo. Games like stretchmo world being scrapped and development moved elsewhere like wii u tl 3ds ports. Just because the console didnt sell. They could have ar least provided some more games. But this strategy of no more games is probably meant as a motivation for wii u owners to buy the switch quite soon.
So mass market appeal is important for a console to be successful and pricing is a huge part of it. Imagine people investing lots of money into the switch but due to nintendos missteps it fails like the wii u and ends up being abandoned again.
Nintendos pricing policy is risky both for nintendo and the people who buy the switch.
Many people, me included, who might have bought it day one or in the launch window will just wait and see.
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@Tiredman
I hope we will not have to wait too long g ☺
In fact I am quite content with waiting a little longer.
The only game that makes real sense is zelda whi h should be roughly the same on wii u. I have a huge backlog of games and there is still 3ds games coming out.
Mk8 and splatoon will still be supported, so there is actually no real incentive for me to rush.
When they finally drop prices there will be a greater game library available to choose from. So in the end I should win in all regards. Its a liitle bit sad cause this would have been otherwise a day one purchase for me.
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The general message of the switch is, you invest into a system which may or may not succeed it. Either way, you will have to pay a lot of money, short term and long term. And you are getting less bang for the buck compared to the competition (this might have been true in the past, but right now its more obvious and downright insolent).
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@Aslanmagic
Thats unknown. Still it has to be taken into account, the battery will eventually die and money will have to be paid in order to get it running again, at least in portable mode. And since it apparently wont be possible in the do it yourself way, well, money will have to be paid, for the battery, for the service, for the shipping, and that will amount to something, that might not necessarily be close to buying a new switch but still its gonna cost.
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@Ralizah
Just btw, saying somebody is childish because they realize that money milking is involved? Whats the relation here? Its rather foolish to accept everything for granted! Saying somebody is childish? What does it mean? Like I am a child, whose opinion doesnt need to be heeded because I am childish and not defending a corporation? , yeah right.
Complaining for the sake of complaining? Are you implying I am making this whole thing up because I have nothing else to do?
I am complaing because there is a lot to complain about!
Look there is a lot of people who dont have an own opinion. By complaining I am speaking about reasonable reason of why this whole nintendo policy is not consumer friendly. So people who have no opinion of their own, will see arguments of reason and might veer one way or another. You are doing the same thing be defending it. Thats it. One person defends, another objects!
From what I can see, there is no real reason behind defending it, besides, its quality, joy cons are robust, yeah... its cool, its worth.
You know what I am talking about!
No really, please do not insult peoples intelligence with those kind of arguments. Childish and stuff...
Do you think it will make a point if I say, people who buy a switch at the current conditions are foolish? Its obvious, but you have to provide arguments. And nintendo has been giving lots of grounds for arguments against buying it. Its like an orgy of milking its fanbase.
I hold nintendo fans in high regard. To me, nintendo fans are something special. Its about people who value games, which are what they are. They are not full of gore and violence, they are not mainstream, they are familiy friendly. It takes a good person to appreciate things like that IMHO. And in this regard I think these people are being taken advantage of with the switch. And I think thats not right! Thats why I am speaking my mind. Its not about complaining for the sake of complaining. I was praising nintendo when it came to the wii u for the above reasons. But I cannot say that its ok whay they are doing right now, because its not ok.
Re: Nintendo Will Replace Your Dead Switch Battery, At A Cost
@Ralizah
No I am not complaining for the sake of complaining. Certain policies exist because people are complacent and accept things for granted. Products only sell if people will buy them. If people were in general more clever products and services would be better. Thats all there is to it. People like you who accept and defend it will not make it better, just give more power to greedy companies to continue with there schemes, scams, and money milking. Its sad, but thats the way its going. Otherwise microtransactions, which I have never taken part in, wouldnt have been possible. But companies can rely on people buying everything without reason.
Re: Japanese Gamers Think Nintendo Switch Is Too Expensive, But Don't Mind Paying For Online Access
Maybe its really time to move on and call it quits? Be content what is there and face the truth? I will see about that.
Christmas will be the earliest date to get it IMO, probably even later. Nintendo is shooting in its knee here. The wii u was a sad thing, nintendo really cheaped out there, but it was the games who kept me convinced and I wished more would have been released for a IMO great console. But this one is like sucker punch for die-hard fans. Die-hard fans, not to be confused with fanboys.
Re: Nintendo Will Replace Your Dead Switch Battery, At A Cost
@Vegaphil
thats good.
Remember that the 3ds was more or less affordable. I would be surprised if you will get away with that amount in regard to the switch
Re: Japanese Gamers Think Nintendo Switch Is Too Expensive, But Don't Mind Paying For Online Access
@remag
it will happen if they carry on this way, same as they went mobile
Re: Nintendo Will Replace Your Dead Switch Battery, At A Cost
@Ralizah
I have a better idea! Offer replaceable batteries! Make a system where its easy for a consumer to replace the battery with little effort. Everything else is scam
Re: Nintendo Will Replace Your Dead Switch Battery, At A Cost
@Ralizah
that consumer milking madness
deep down you know what I mean, but wont admit
Re: Japanese Gamers Think Nintendo Switch Is Too Expensive, But Don't Mind Paying For Online Access
@remag
well put, maybe we should do that.
Look, when they said the switch would launch in march I was absolutely sure I would buy it day one and play zelda on it. When it was fully revealed and all kinds of hidden, overpriced costs were made known. I was quite confused, didnt see that one coming. Like I always its not about being able to afford it. It was a feeling of being shortchanged. I thought they are really pushing it. I cant really justify this purchase at this conditions to me or anyone. When the wii u was doomed I bought it and even though I knew this is not going to be a winner I was actually quite happy with it, disappointed a little when they abandoned it. But this?
The first time that I was contemplating calling it quits, call it whatever you want, but this is not really cool to me. I probably will buy it in the future, but I realize what they are doing here and will try to open the eyes of blind and ignorant people to see it it for what it is. And I do hope that nintendo either realizes it, changes policy, or be doomed and go multiplatform because that might be most beneficial for customers. Actually that might be the best option, you could just buy a ps4 for cheap, with a proper controller and no need to buy anything else for a proper gaming experience and have nintendo games play on it - I think that might the best option for all! Nintendo probably realized that, too. And thats why they want to cash in a last time. If sales wont work with the switch they will pull the plug, call it quits and release titles for other systems just as they went mobile.
Re: Nintendo Will Replace Your Dead Switch Battery, At A Cost
@DoctorWily
Not necessarily - some systems need a working battery to run. Wouldnt be surprised if thats the case with the switch. More money for nintendo in the long run - could be vital.
Re: Nintendo Will Replace Your Dead Switch Battery, At A Cost
@Ralizah
Yes it is! And rightly so!
Or maybe make a decision to opt out before this madness starts?
Re: Nintendo Will Replace Your Dead Switch Battery, At A Cost
Its funny
All of this seems as if they sat down and discussed how they can make the most money possible, the most consumer unfriendly decisions apparently won. Fanboys will be definitely fine with it!
Re: Japanese Gamers Think Nintendo Switch Is Too Expensive, But Don't Mind Paying For Online Access
Just btw, this whole switch thing could be grounds for a study into fanboyizm - new levels have been reached I think.
Even though I will buy the switch in the end - I have never had so many thoughts about calling it quits. I am not buying sony or ms - but if this is the way nintendo is heading - I think I might just stick to what I have got, buy Zelda for wii u and play through my backlog which should last me for a couple of years.
Still a long time ahead of me to make that decision. It has never been harder to stay a fan of nintendo games as nowadays. Maybe nintendo wants to create another fanbase. Maybe this is all a sociological experiment trying to study the depths of human attachment to a brandname and how it copes with consumer unfriendly circumstances
Re: Japanese Gamers Think Nintendo Switch Is Too Expensive, But Don't Mind Paying For Online Access
@sdelfin
And thats the point. They think how to get the most milk.
But at least they are not so bad, I mean, they could have just said if the battery dies you have to buy another switch but they are so kind as to offer us paid battery replacement. Wonder what the difference will be between buying a new switch and that replacement.
Re: Nintendo Will Replace Your Dead Switch Battery, At A Cost
Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They are umcommonly kind these days - they could have made the switch a one time only - when they battery is dead, then just buy another switch!
But no, they are so consumer friendly as to offer paid battery replacement. So kind of them.
Another hidden cost, not to mention, if you cant do it by yourself you have to send it in - pay the shipment - pay for the battery, pay for the replacement - pay for the shipment.
Wonder what that will amount to?
Another hidden cost, just when I thought I knew it all
Re: Japanese Gamers Think Nintendo Switch Is Too Expensive, But Don't Mind Paying For Online Access
@Yorumi
of course the service is better, much much better. Still, no matter how ridiculous this monthly rental thing is, paid online is not the worst thing in this scenario. But thats pretty subjective as I dont really care about it, some people might actually do care about free games, I dont. But I understand that it can put people off and most off all its another example of nintendos way of business - thats off-putting.
Re: Japanese Gamers Think Nintendo Switch Is Too Expensive, But Don't Mind Paying For Online Access
@sdelfin
I dont like Iphones and I dont buy them. Mant children want an iphone because they think they will be cool if they own something that other childrens parents might not be able to afford. Is nintendo heading the same way?
Re: Japanese Gamers Think Nintendo Switch Is Too Expensive, But Don't Mind Paying For Online Access
@Yorumi
I wouldnt look at it this way. If they want to charge some money for online services, well, of course free of charge would be better, but maybe its in a way necessary and if nintendos got any honor, they should deliver some better service. Maybe - maybe not, we will see.
But imo, if they start charging for it, they should provide a good deal. Why come up with monthly rentals of reeeeaaaaaly old games most people have already played - is that meant as an incentive? How am I supposed to understand that? Is this like, we want to rip you off and want to see if you are stupid enough to jump on board - or - we are very kind to you and in addition to our great onlince service we are letting you test an nes or snes game for a month for free as a cherry on top, you should be glad.
Well, thats the impression to it? Which one is it? Is it a beneficial idea? A rip off? A laugh in your face?
Maybe they want to see if theres fanboys defending even that?
Re: Japanese Gamers Think Nintendo Switch Is Too Expensive, But Don't Mind Paying For Online Access
@Mogster
Well said, nintendo is a business. All business needs to make money but in the case of nintendo its reaching levels of greediness that are beyond reason IMHO and people shouldnt support it.
Their stingy mynintendo is a good example of a reward system gone wrong - ridiculous. Its much in line with their ridiculous pricing of the switch. They have become pretty insolent lately and I cant really understand how fans can feel fine with it. Of course, nintendo might also pay certain people to justify every (mis)step they make - we will never know.
Nintendo is actually pretty arrogant , they CAN make good games, and thats why I buy their consoles and games, but generally as a company they are not too friendly and certainly not our friends.
Re: Nintendo Switch Dips to €299 on Amazon France
I wonder why they are doing that?
could it be pre-orders have been cancelled?
There are surely more price drops and better deals to come,
good things come to those who wait!
Re: Japanese Gamers Think Nintendo Switch Is Too Expensive, But Don't Mind Paying For Online Access
@remag
NO thats not the problem, nobody ever said it needed to be free.
Look there is always gonna be two kinds of fans, some who will justify each and everything and then some who will critisize if there is something worth critisizing.
Its always been this way. There is no right or wrong in this scenario.
However, I do not like when people start insulting other people, that doesnt look too clever.
Many sound arguments have been made on why the switch is overpriced, I think the point has been made.
What I do like however,
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/01/nintendo_switch_dips_to_e299_on_amazon_france
is the fact that if consumers stick together, they will achieve something.
Many people are brought up to believe everything they get taught and to just accept things for what they are. I dont. And I am not afraid to stand up for what I believe, even if there is a whole bunch of fanboys who will attack my opinion and stuff.
Its never wrong to enlighten people and open their eyes.
Clever people will appreciate, fools will hate - thats a universal truth.
Re: Japanese Gamers Think Nintendo Switch Is Too Expensive, But Don't Mind Paying For Online Access
@Yorumi
You are totally spot on here!
Re: Japanese Gamers Think Nintendo Switch Is Too Expensive, But Don't Mind Paying For Online Access
@remag
Well, I dont care about the scorpio. But I think its gonna be very powerful and probably worth its money for those people who are interested in specs etc.
And it wont require anything else for starters, besides maybe an extra pad if you need one.
Take the ps4 pro for example, its much more powerful and yet it doesnt really cost much more than the switch. It doesnt need anything more besides games. No charging grip, no pro controller, the one that you get in the box is the one to go with.
So in order for me to get my proper gaming experience with the switch I have to pay much more than with the ps4.
And just in case, I am not gonna buy the ps4, otherwise I wouldnt be complaining here, I would have called it a day, bought something else, and be gone.
I really hope it wont be too long until the price drops.
Re: Japanese Gamers Think Nintendo Switch Is Too Expensive, But Don't Mind Paying For Online Access
@remag
Are you trolling here?
Like I said, I am not really concerned about online play.
I am concerned about the costs that actually were revealed. Well, maybe there are more hidden costs to come, I dont know about that. But those that already have been revealed are ridiculous.
Its as stingy as it can get. Take the charging grip for example, so they have made two grips apparently, one that charges and one that doesnt charge. The one that doesnt charge comes in the box and the other one needs to paid separetely. I wonder what the difference of production costs will be between those two grips. Was it really that much of a difference? Couldnt they have included that charging grip with the switch? Is it like maybe not too many people would actually need a charging grip?
Is this charging grip an alternative option for those people who dont want to have their switch idle for a couple of hours and continue playing? I dont really see the point of not including the charging grip.
Or think about reggie, they couldnt include a game, because they really wanted a good price for the switch. Yeah, right, who is gonna believe that ceo talk? I mean they could have at least included some vc games which everyone already owns, or better include mario sunshine vc. But why give something for free when they can charge a lot of money for it. Its not like they are the general underdog when it comes to home consoles nowadays.
Re: Japanese Gamers Think Nintendo Switch Is Too Expensive, But Don't Mind Paying For Online Access
@remag
I am not interested in sony. So I dont have anything to complain there.
Dont really know why you came up with that argument.
Re: Japanese Gamers Think Nintendo Switch Is Too Expensive, But Don't Mind Paying For Online Access
@remag
If you feel like buying it, then buy it. I will wait.
Would it be our fault if we dont buy an overpriced product? Or would it be nintendos fault? Why should I pay for their faults?
I think people want the switch to succeed at all costs, they can!
But why not say, yes, its very pricy, I would like to have it cheaper, I would like to get a better deal, make it more appealing for the mass market which would definitely help making it a huge success. However, I am such a loyal nintendo fan, that I am than willing to pay that price of admission...
... instead of justifying it the wrong way IMO. If its overpriced, which it is, the pricepoint is something that the whole internet is complaining about, and rightly so.
IMHO it would be better if consumers, nintendo fans stuck together and caused nintendo to drop the price much sooner.
Re: Japanese Gamers Think Nintendo Switch Is Too Expensive, But Don't Mind Paying For Online Access
@Yorumi
The majority of any society is not that bright IMO. :)
Anyway, I wouldnt call people not bright because they dont (yet) see the same thing you and I see, or have a different opinion or something.
I think its about fanboyizm. Like we all know there is people who actively take part in the console wars,ps4 is better than xb1, no xb1 is better. These people are probably very seldom paid to do so, they are doing it because they need confirmation that they have made the right choice (you have the same thing with religious beliefs, even though thats a little bit more complicated).
In regard to the switch, and thats a completely new experience , there is a whole new situation going on.
Re: Japanese Gamers Think Nintendo Switch Is Too Expensive, But Don't Mind Paying For Online Access
@truth be told, I am not concerned with online gaming at all. When I want to play splatoon or mk8 and need to pay for it, well, then I probaly will pay for it, unless its gonna cost double of what the competition charges (because in that case I think it would be stupid).
I am more concerned about the pricing. Even though I could afford it, its not what I would like to pay for it and its definitely not what its worth. Nintendo could have done much better pretty easily. Right now it seems they want to make a lot of money whatever way possible — its a business yes, but its not good for the consumer. Actually I believe, that its gonna be sold out in the beginning. But after that sales will become very slow until christmas and a price cut will be inevitable - and thats when I will buy it. Actually, more and better games will be available later on that will be able to choose from. Good things come to those who wait.
Re: Japanese Gamers Think Nintendo Switch Is Too Expensive, But Don't Mind Paying For Online Access
@Syrek24 @remag
So what you are implying is that all people who complain are blind and ignorant. Yeah, funny thing is, I have never seen so many people on the internet complain a about a price, they must have all been struck with blindness and ignorance.
Nintendo can indeed charge what they want, and people who actually do have an own opinion might voice it and say what is on their mind.
And like I said before, its not about the 300 dollars that people complain its about lots of smaller things that create a bigger picture, which apparently some people arent able to see.
And its definitely not about getting something for nothing, otherwise you can just go and steal the switch from somebody. I think its about honest people who have to work for their money and want value for it, tangible value. Nintendo should be happy that there are fans out there who want to buy their switch. They need them. IMO they should make this deal as attractive as possible, but they are behind their competition in about everything, specs, third party support, pricing, online service, etc.
Yeah, of course people might say if the competition is better than buy xb1 or ps4, but thats totally not the point and very rude to say. This is about fellow nintendo gamers who want a better deal.
Remember, this is an investment into a gimmicky technology attached to what might become a great system. This gimmicky and most of all pricy technology might neve be used in any meaningful way - remember the wii u gamepad - a highly unnecessary item, that made a very cheap console overpriced, never became a hit, not only third parties rejected it, also nintendo failed to support it (think star fox). When they introduced it, ceo-talk said its a revolution, when the wii u was dead they simply admitted what everyone was saying at first, that its a failure which hinders gaming. So not too special in the end.
Re: Japanese Gamers Think Nintendo Switch Is Too Expensive, But Don't Mind Paying For Online Access
@WOLF1313
Exactly!
I dont think anyone would complain about a price of 300 dollars, pounds or euros, even without a game, if it wasnt for the hidden costs and the new pricing policy of games. Online play doesnt really matter imho. The competition is doing it, so if its for much better service, well, so be it. Monthly nes/snes rentals seem ridiculous.
Of course people might say everythings ok, nintendo is running a business and has the right to charge whatever they want, and people who complain about prices should start birdwatching if they cant afford it.
But these people are completely missing the point IMHO, pure fanboyizm if you ask me. Critical thinking will not harm anyone. The whole pricing policy is ridiculous and thats the truth.
Re: Japanese Gamers Think Nintendo Switch Is Too Expensive, But Don't Mind Paying For Online Access
hidden costs increase the price a lot. So its not surprising at all that people complain. Prices are subjective and judging by certain posts on this site there are people who are willing to pay any price just to get their nintendo fix and will justify just about every one of nintendos missteps. Yes, the nintendo switch is expensive.
Re: Mario Sports Superstars Heading to Europe on 10th March
@Hokanchu
Been looking forward to this game. Will buy it day one with pikmin together. Rumour has it theres gonna be one card included . Will see what it does. I will definitely not buy any of those cards. Amiibo cards? I just own the mario maker amiibo, still sealed but I recognize its collective and display value. But amiibo cards? And just related to one, I would say minor game, give me a break!
Re: Mario Sports Superstars Heading to Europe on 10th March
Wonder if a lack of amiibo cards will have a negative impact on this game, sounds like another form of microtransactions. Do these cards affect other games as well or is it just related to this game?
Re: Talking Point: The Nintendo 3DS, A System That Still Has a Role to Play
I would like to see a successor to the 3ds or an even stronger new3ds, that is backwardscompatible with ds and 3ds games.
Re: Switch Will Succeed By Offering Something You Can't Get On PlayStation Or Xbox, Says Randy Pitchford
@gatorboi352
I think you have a point, nintendo has shoehorned themselves. On the other hand they have created a fantastic gaming experience. To me their games are about fun. Some people say they are for kids, to me they are for everybody. Its not about kids games but about games that everyone can enjoy and have fun.
When it comes to third parties I must say that not all games (that get great reviews) are fun to play, they are mostly about graphics, gore and violence. Nintendo is like safehaven for a different gamer, one who values different aspects in gaming and is willing to pay for a game that ps4 or xb1 gamers wouldnt spend a dollar on and maybe vice versa. I like that nintendo didnt follow trends but set trends themselves, sometimes they succeed, sometimes not. They make a lot of mistakes with marketing and their approach to their fans is not always spot on. But their games are still great to me, and thats why I will eventually buy the switch even though its gonna be more expensive than I thought.
Re: Mario Sports Superstars Is Getting Its Own Range Of amiibo Cards
Not interested in amiibo much less cards. Will try to get this one day one though. Is the european release the same as na?