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@thegametb

Thanks for the insight, it answered a lot of the questions I had about the game that were not touched on in the review.

Can you use the right analogue stick for accelerating/ braking like in GRID?

I get that for casual gamers this is of little to no interest but what is the actual racing like in this game? Is the AI realistic? Are the car physics realistic/ satisfying? Does the game offer anything to fans of Sim racing?
It would've been nice to have some insights into this kind of thing in the review.

I'm wary of any Chinese investment in anything these days, sorry.

I do take @TheWingedAvenger's point though. The difference seems to get more and more incremental with each generation.
Ok; 4k IS better than 1080p, 120 fps IS better than 60 fps etc etc, but these are hardly life-changing developments at this point.
Most essential games on the PS5 are available more cheaply at slightly inferior resolution on PS4 already.
The main reason to upgrade to the next generation these days is when the older consoles stop getting supported with the latest games.

This news is bittersweet to me. Nintendo is at its best when its back is against the wall and its forced into taking risks. At the moment its just the old complacent Nintendo.

If the PS3 can handle GTA V then the Switch definitely can.

It's wrong that one country's decision affects so many others like this.

When you take the desirability of their products out of the equation, Nintendo's actual business practices- like the apparent contempt they have for their customers- are pretty shady.

BTW Thanks NL didn't think of doing that

'GTA Trilogy's Definitive Edition Will Reportedly Feature 'GTA V-Style Controls'...
Why can't we just have GTA 5, again?!

The sales are likely not all that impressive then.
I think Metroid will always be a niche title in reality. It certainly just never clicked for me. I tried getting into Super Metroid back when it released and again recently and I still don't really 'get it'.
Can't wait for Prime 4 on the other hand...

Thanks for the video but it seems like more reasons not to get an OLED

Even PS3 could handle GTA 5 so the Switch not getting it is just a kick in the teeth.

Can this be played online without an NSO subscription? If so I'm definitely in.

That's the admission right there of what most people have known for couple of years now- the JoyCons were not fit for purpose at launch.
It pains me to say but I've really started to dislike Nintendo as a company, what with things like the cash grab that was the limited time release of 3D All-stars for example as well.
Compare this to Steam's transparency by producing things like official teardowns of the Deck and it's night and day.

Valves's transparency and overall approach with the Steam Deck is a real breath of fresh air. I hope they do really well; the world needs more companies like this.

I appreciate the review and I'm sure it's a great story but a full priced cloud game getting a 9 is plain wrong.
Before the internet this type of media consumption was known as 'rental' and cost less than 10% of the purchase price of a physical game.

Aside from 'mathgate' (runs for cover), kudos to the writer for the last paragraph of the article.

Games like Wave Race and 1080 Snowboarding show a side to Nintendo that's sorely lacking these days...

This beats every announcement in the Direct for me.

I coveted the Q so hard back in the day, it's like a romance that cruelly never happened.

Just tried this out with a pro controller and BT headphones and it's introduced some really nasty input latency with the controller input. I couldn't believe quite how bad it was. As soon as I went back to wired headphones the input latency was gone.
There's no way I can play competitively online with that setup so I guess it's back to sitting uncomfortably close to the screen and Switch for me...

Retro's lack of output in the last decade suddenly makes sense lol

I'm one of the people that BOTW just didn't click with. I stopped after 30 hours and probably 5-10% judging by the comments here.

It's greedy publishers doing things like this on Switch that made me decide to pre-order a Steam Deck.

Sounds like picking up NMH 2 on eshop is the better option for newcomers.

I bet it'll be much cheaper on Steam Deck too.

I'm sure it's a great port but a re-release of a 25 year old game shouldn't be getting a 10. That score should be reserved for groundbreaking new games. No wonder all we seem to get is re-releases with such over enthusiastic reviews...

Can't see this offers anything Mantis Burn Racing doesn't so it's an easy pass.

Ooof that'll show the Steam Deck, eh? 😂

Just bagged Doom Eternal for £12.49 (75% off!) on Steam ready for Steam Deck

Mario Kart Tour= MK9 and Home Circuit= MK10...we're so spoilt having 3 Mario Karts this generation aren't we

I really hope Nintendo didn't put resource into stuff like this instead of an Odyssey 2 or other proper first party games.

I'd bet that the story lines of Mario games are only of passing interest at best for most people. Personally I tend to fast scroll through the dialogue in Mario games to get to the gameplay.

Once I get my Steam Deck, every game that's available on Switch and SD I'll get on the SD; far superior versions for half the price AND I'll be able to play them on any PC in the future.
Anyone arguing that the Deck is not competition is deluded. This is a properly disruptive device and if Steam manages to handle the launch well, it could have a big hit on it's hands.
It's the first hardware I've been excited about for years and as a Nintendo fan, I really hope it ends their complacency and forces them to take some risks again.

Not sure if anyone else has said this but the Full-fat Switch was sold out for a large part of last year- the Lite was all you could get.
Probably the main reason that the Lite appeared to be doing reasonably well...

This game looks great until the mention of turn-based battles which have put me off so many other games over the years.

I've not played any of them but that says more about Nintendo's lack of original output than anything...

@nhSnork

Yes you're right to an extent, I've not played PC games for years and always found the cost of a gaming setup prohibitively expensive.

That's why the Steam Deck is so appealing to me: relatively affordable (the memory is micro SD upgradable), portable and seems to be capable of playing everything that I've been missing and without being compromised versions too.

@Ambassador_Kong

Well I am seriously considering getting one and therefore wouldn't be buying those games that I mentioned on Switch (among others). The games are also a lot more affordable on Steam.

That definitely counts as competition in regards to my circumstances and I am sure that I will not be the only one.

I don't buy that this is not competing with the Switch personally.

One of the best things about Switch has been that so many multi platform games have been ported over- to be honest it's made up for the lacklustre first party output from Nintendo these last few years.

Some of my most played games have been things like Witcher 3 and Wolfenstein 2 and I even had my eyes open for a big price drop on the cloud games like Control and Hitman 3.

Now that there is a dockable handheld that is capable of playing uncompromised versions of these games, I really think it cancels out a major USP that the Switch once had.

Really good article. I only know a few word's but it would be great if someone did a Welsh version too.

I was actually looking forward to this one and I will get it but Nintendo needs to stop with the ports now and get some proper new AAA's out stat, it's starting to get pretty old already.

@Damo

Yes that's exactly my point and why the title and subtitle were therefore misleading.

@Damo

It was pretty clear in my response to @johnvboy's comment- I even copied and pasted his quote from the article into my reply!

The title and subtitle of the article are also misleading because of the over simplification of the maths involved.

The implication being that Nintendo is making $40 more per unit because it 'only' costs $10 more in components yet charges $50 extra per Switch OLED.

Anyone that knows anything about retail markup or any kind of design, development and manufacturing and is being honest with themselves knows that this over simplification is incorrect.

I get that you need to create compelling content- clicks are the bread and butter of your business model and I'm not even knocking the article as such.

I just felt that the reality of the maths involved needed some clarification. Going by the comments here it seems quite a few others did too.

At the end of the day the article did well anyway didn't it?- 125 comments and counting is a decent success

@johnvboy

" The Switch is already making a profit, so this will only further increase Nintendo's profit margins if it is successful. Bloomberg reached out to a Nintendo spokesperson about the price breakdown and sure enough, they declined to comment."

'Bits like this make me feel the purpose of this article is not as innocent as you are making out...'

• You are absolutely right, of course!

It's clickbait at worst and tabloidy at best

I know websites need to make money somehow too, but it's a bit hypocritical to (unfairly) imply shady business practice when the article itself could arguably be accused of the same thing by being misleading and disingenuous.

The shock and horror this 'revelation' has caused is staggering. Retail usually commands around a 50% markup alone. That means if a company is lucky enough to be an authorized retailer for Nintendo (or anyone else) the wholesale price is about half the price to the end consumer. This in addition to all the costs others here have mentioned like R+D and it's actually surprising that the OLED costs so little over the standard switch.

Great to see so many intelligent, well considered and realistic responses calling out this article.

After not exactly falling in love with BOTW, I can't wait to play a proper 3D Zelda again with decent dungeons and not too much traipsing around.

That's insane!

If only I could find a way to stop my teenage self from excitedly opening their copy way back in 1997...

@JasmineDragon
Your reply to me quoted another article too (which you have now edited!), which was as far as I read because you were already way off the mark.
What are you trying to achieve exactly? Do you have nothing better to do than to try to paint me as a bigot?
I stand by original comment which asked for politics to be kept out of a video game enthusiasts website. It is a trend that I have noticed over the last couple of years at it happens.
As much as you want it, I am not the bogeyman you are trying to make me out to be; I just want to read about Nintendo without a certain political slant being forced upon me.
I'd guess that most readers here do too, including the minority groups that you think you are fighting for the rights of but who I'd imagine mostly just want to enjoy their video games.

@JasmineDragon
The deleted comment was not referring to that article, unfortunately its removal has also removed any context.
Sorry you wasted your time writing all that.