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Koizumi has "Too Many Ideas" for Mario on Wii U

Posted by James Newton

What a problem to have...

Mario's new master, Super Mario Galaxy director Yoshiaki Koizumi, is already brainstorming ideas for how to bring the famous mascot to Wii U. He's been so busy, in fact, that he's already come up too many ideas to put into practice, according to a recent interview with Official Nintendo Magazine.

Koizumi — who was kept in the dark about Wii U, remember — is now concentrating on whittling down his list of ideas to a more workable number:

As it turns out, I have too many ideas at the moment for Mario games on Wii U. I'm going to have to start narrowing them down and thinking about which ideas might work well together so that the whole system will be an enjoyable experience rather than a hodgepodge of ideas.

The Wii U controller undoubtedly offers up countless ideas for Mario — what do you think the plumber's first appearance on Wii U will look like? Could it be like E3 tech demo New Super Mario Bros. Mii, or something all together different?

[via officialnintendomagazine.co.uk]

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StarDust4Ever

#1

StarDust4Ever said:

Too many ideas for Mario games...
And this is a problem because? :P
Seriously, too many Mario ideas is never a bad thing! :D

Some suggestions: I would like to see a return to free-exploration 3D worlds, such as M64 and Sunshine. Less linear gameplay and more exploration. Give us a nice main 3D hub world with unlockable secrets and portals to other areas. Keep the funky Galaxy style gravity/ physics relegated to "special" or "secret" areas. Pleease no more 2D world maps in 3D games.

The next big 2D Mario should use a Super Mario World styled overworld map. That is so much more creative than separate map templates for worlds 1-8. Also, for the love of Mario, the next 2D Mario should include a level editor for users to design their own stages, and an good interface to share them online with other players. Make New Super Mario Brothers Wii-U more like Sony's Little Big Planet!

eviLaTtenDant

#3

eviLaTtenDant said:

I only have two ideas for other uses of the controller right now.
Either to scan your surroundings for hidden things. Or when you go down a pipe the underworld could be displayed there.

TwilightV

#5

TwilightV said:

What StarDust said. If he's up to it, he can easily implement his ideas over the course of several games (like Galaxy 2 did for Galaxy).

pntjr

#7

pntjr said:

I hope they do something original, not another New Super Mario Bros or Super Mario.

Daisaku36

#8

Daisaku36 said:

A new game with alternate dimensions. I'm thinking time travel (not quite unlike Zelda) and vehicle portions of the game could be pretty sweet (much like Super Mario Land). Maybe there could be more varied levels in this case (hey, an urban setting could be a possibility....that may sound like a joke, but consider it).

Matillion

#9

Matillion said:

How about ideas for 3D Land?
So far the level desgin doesn't look too unique.
It's good, though.

Katernity

#11

Katernity said:

if you have 10 different ideas, go ahead and make 10 different games! we'll buy them all.

StarDust4Ever

#12

StarDust4Ever said:

Another point I'd like to mention, adding a little bit of plot to a AAA Mario platform title is fine in my opinion. Just make sure to keep the cut-scenes short, or give the player the option of skipping them if he/she wants. No more cake jokes, please!!!

@newlykate: 10 ideas =10 games? Not a great strategy IMO. Just look at Sega's back catologue of lackluster 3D Sonic games.

Omenapoika

#13

Omenapoika said:

@1.Stardust If my memory serves, Nintendo said that Mario is now going away from adventure and more into cracking challenging levels after another.

If Koizumi uses the second screen super good, WiiU wont be a disappointment :)

DestinyMan

#14

DestinyMan said:

I would rather have too many ideas than too few, so that's great. I hope that Mario's next platforming adventure will be something different other than the New Super Mario Bros. formula. As far as 3D Mario, it should be something along the lines of Super Mario 64, more exploration than usual, but not so much that it'd be like Zelda. There's no doubt that Mario's future adventures will be even better than those before! Not only will that second screen add a lot of depth to the games, but the HD ought to make them the most beautiful in the series.

Luffymcduck

#15

Luffymcduck said:

@1.StarDust
You just said all that had to be said.:D We need a new Super Mario World style map, not those crappy New SMB ones. And please, no more exact same level themes. DS and Wii versions were nearly identical to me, Wii just had a bit more challencing levels.

TKOWL

#16

TKOWL said:

The next Mario just needs to have Yoshi in it, and I'll be happy.

FonistofCruxis

#17

FonistofCruxis said:

@Stardust I agree, Super Mario galaxy was going in the right direction in terms of adding more plot with the backstory they had for Rosalina and the longer ending. I hope that they do something like that but improve upon it for Mario's first wii U game.

I actually think it would benefit the series if there isn't a Mario game at the launch of the wii U next year because after this year we would've had one main series Mario platforner a year three years running and it seems like they're losing their creativity a little as while some of the levels we've seen look creative in Super Mario 3D land, overall it doesn't look as creative as some Mario games, especially the SMG games so I think that if they spend more time on Mario's first wii U game and don't have it released next year, its more likely to be a game that will have the sort of impact that Super Mario galaxy did when it was shown at e3 2006 and that is something I hope to see with Mario's first wii U game. As they obviously couldn't have a big Zelda game at the launch of the wii U after Skyward sword releasing near the end of this year, maybe they could have a new Metroid leading the launch of the wii U as thats the other one of Nintendo's three biggest series. I think they should try something different with the next 2D Mario platformer as well as the nest 3D one.

Arcanum

#18

Arcanum said:

Hopefully one idea is a full fledged stage builder....And downloadable stages made straight from the mind of shiggy.
Also @mariofanatic128 PIKMIN 3 FOR WII U LAUNCH!! It's seems very likely to me anyways.

FonistofCruxis

#20

FonistofCruxis said:

@Arcanum I does seem very likely but I doubt it will be a system seller. I'm not saying I don't think it will be a good game, its just that Pikmin isn't as big and well known as the likes of Mario, Zelda and Metroid and after the unsuccessful launch of the 3DS, I think nintendo needs a new entry in one of those 3 at the launch of the wii U and Metroid seems like the best fit as the other two a both getting a new entry this year.

CapedGodot

#22

CapedGodot said:

@3 As soon as you said "scan" my mind jumped to Metroid Prime. I'm excited now, just thinking of the possibilities of a Wii U Metroid Prime game.

Rensch

#23

Rensch said:

Super Mario Galaxy was a tremendous achievement in any concievable way. I don't know how they are gonna top that in creativity.

FonistofCruxis

#24

FonistofCruxis said:

@Rensch It does seem unlikely that they will top that but it would be good of they at least tried, Super Mario 3D land looks far from the level of creativity in the SMG games.

FMsaziri

#25

FMsaziri said:

I know that Nintendo was forced to reveal the console sooner than expected, but all these "vapornews" are really starting to get annoying.

Blaze

#27

Blaze said:

There's a load of people saying to move away from Galaxy, although I think it could work well on Wii U.

Personally, I'd like a 'Galaxy Style' Game but not Galaxy 3. Basically just a free roaming 3D world.

nano43

#28

nano43 said:

I completely agree with StarDust! Free-exploration 3D worlds are my favorite type of game. :)

tehG

#29

tehG said:

and many are probably fantastic :D
ooh, and a 3D exploration mario would be great especially with the wii u capabilities

Radbot42

#30

Radbot42 said:

What could be done is to take some of those really good ideas and make new series with them. Just because you thought up of a bunch of new ideas does not mean they all have to be for mario. I love mario, but if we were given 6 or 7 mario games rather close together I would get get tired of seeing that plumber saving peach

lex0plex

#31

lex0plex said:

@StarDust

"Make New Super Mario Brothers Wii-U more like Sony's Little Big Planet!"

Um no... please no. But I do like your other ideas!

MasterGraveheart

#32

MasterGraveheart said:

I woudln't mind Super Mario Galaxy 3 on Wii U. HD Galaxy? THAT'LL be a sight to behold for sure. Or maybe... a combination of New Super Mario Bros. Wii and Super Paper Mario... with Super Mario Bros. 3 apperance style? ^^;

How about throwing power-ups in stock from your controller out ot Mario when he needs one?

Markystal

#34

Markystal said:

I'm actually hoping this game will be Super Mario Galaxy 3 because of the fact Super Mario Bros. 3 ended up being the best Mario bros so why not try doing that again. I mean come on, Nintendo has a track record when it comes to trapping lightning in a bottle more than once.

Markystal

#35

Markystal said:

I'm actually hoping this game will be Super Mario Galaxy 3 because of the fact Super Mario Bros. 3 ended up being the best Mario bros so why not try doing that again. I mean come on, Nintendo has a track record when it comes to trapping lightning in a bottle more than once.

kyoya

#37

kyoya said:

hopefully he is testing the some of the ideas on the wii u then he should narrow it to the best ones

Radixxs

#38

Radixxs said:

Did he really say "hodgepodge" or did the translator British it up a bit? ;)

supersayinluigi

#39

supersayinluigi said:

he couldnt think of all mario adventure so there was totally thoughts of a spinoff the obvious mario kart came to his mine probably.

GotWii

#40

GotWii said:

Actually; it would have to be very very outstanding to make me be a 1st year buyer of Wii U, I really do not see the big deal about having a Pad-Book as a controller and the rest of Wii-U that they have shown is very lack luster HD nice but most of the Games on Wii are not using the current ability. In fact it would have been much cooler to have the Wii use Ipads, smart-phones, or for common sense my DS, DSi, and DS3 as the new controller. Quit trying to sell me $100's of dollars of peripherals.

Traxx

#41

Traxx said:

Too much chatting, not enough games.
Work hard Nintendo, not everything is in the hands of heaven.

C-195

#42

C-195 said:

How is this a problem? The problem is when Nintendo makes another Mario game when they should be making a game that needs to be made.
Too much mario, not enough F-Zero, Starfox, etc.

Crunchy_in_milk

#43

Crunchy_in_milk said:

And I thought that by now they'd be running out of ideas; I know I would be!
Can't wait to see what they have in store for us!

tanookisuit

#44

tanookisuit said:

I'm curious what he's thinking, but also if he really is Mario's new master and Miyamoto has backed off I'm worried. Zelda has been less and less fun for me since Ocarina with the exception of Wind Waker. I hope this guy is a mind reader or has some jedi like powers.

KaiserGX

#45

KaiserGX said:

If they wanted to make an F-Zero they would. That has nothing to do if they make another Mario or not.

JimLad

#47

JimLad said:

Whatever it is I hope they have something (3D Mario or NSMB) for launch, cause they're gonna need it to sell these things come next year. I don't see a WiiU Zelda happening anytime soon, and Metroid won't sell the systems.

Burning_Spear

#48

Burning_Spear said:

If he's still in the process of selecting which ideas will be implemented, then I'd say there's zero chance of a new Mario adventure accompanying the Wii U launch. ... assuming the launch occurs in 2012 as planned. Not that this is a problem per se, but what will they launch with? Maybe Mario Kart?

nano43

#49

nano43 said:

That must mean that there are gonna be some pretty good games coming out! :D

Javin

#50

Javin said:

I really hope nintendo makes Super Mario Sunshine 2!!! I LOVE that game!!! its my favorite game ever!!!!!!!!! A new Mario adventure game would be AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

grumblebuzzz

#53

grumblebuzzz said:

I just don't really see how the Wii U touchscreen will function as anything aside from a glorified lower DS screen. Expect to see a whole lot of maps there, imo, and not much else.

Wolfenstein83

#54

Wolfenstein83 said:

Too many ideas?
Well good, save some of those extra ideas for future games.
Isn't that the obvious thing to do?

SuperSonic

#55

SuperSonic said:

C'mon, Koizumi! You got 25 Gigs to work with! Bring on the first ever Mario and Sonic platform cross over! You got plenty of space for the fully designed stages and the best story ever!

StephenYap3

#57

StephenYap3 said:

My ideas:

Super Mario 64 health meter
4-player deathmatch/Star Grab multiplayer
Most power ups in the series (Cape feather for Cape Mario)
Punch/Kick moves from Mario 64
Save your lives like how they were since Sunshine
Over 200 stars
Over 40 bosses
DLC
Prankster Comets from Galaxy 2 (Galaxy 1's prankster comets abused too much of the Daredevil Comet)

And that's all I have...

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