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GoldenEye Designer Backs Virtual Console Release

Posted by Damien McFerran

Martin Hollis would love to see 007 on the Wii...but also admits it's a legal minefield

The man behind GoldenEye - one of the most beloved N64 games of all time - has admitted that he'd love to see the game make it to the Virtual Console download service.

Martin Hollis, formerly of Rare and now plying his trade at his own company Zoonami (Bonsai Barber), was one of the leading figures in the development of the highly-regarded N64 FPS. He left Rare after completing work on another N64 classic, Perfect Dark.

Speaking to the UK's Official Nintendo Magazine about the chances of Agent Bond hitting the VC, Hollis had this to say:

There's always someone with some exclusivity agreement, so there's lots of lawyers... I'm not going to hold my breath. I'd love it to happen, but I can't see it.

There's been much talk of GoldenEye hitting Microsoft's Xbox Live Arcade service, and even rumours that Rare have produced an upgraded version for the service. Legal issues seem to have stopped this move also, but Perfect Dark is also expected to make its XBLA debut soon.

All of this legal stuff is making our heads hurt.

[via officialnintendomagazine.co.uk]

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Link79

#4

Link79 said:

I never was crazy about FPS games. I've gotten a little more used to them now but when I was a kid I hated them. You can't even see where your walking and you're just a floating gun. The Metroid Prime games are probably the only games in that style that I ever really liked. That's Metroid though and it's a lot different from the average FPS.

timp29

#5

timp29 said:

OMG over-rated! I'm of a mind to report that post lol :p

How has this game aged though? I imagine its dated pretty badly.

KeeperBvK

#7

KeeperBvK said:

"Perfect Dark was always better than Goldeneye!"

Goldeneye was always better than Perfect Dark.

WoRMaSTeR

#8

WoRMaSTeR said:

"6. Turbo Genesis 64:
Perfect Dark was always better than Goldeney"

Better lift up your flamewar defences right about now.

DamoAdmin

#9

Damo said:

Of course GoldenEye will have aged...but the fact is, it was never the graphics that really 'sold' the game. It was the way in which the gameplay was structured that made it really stand out. I played it again recently and although it looks pretty rough by today's standards, the gameplay has more scope than the likes of Killzone 2 or Halo 3.

calculon

#10

calculon said:

Goldeneye was the first N64 game I had and I loved every second. Perfect Dark was superior technically but in terms of what made the game special I'd say Goldeneye has a very slight edge in single player but Perfect Dark wipes the floor with Goldeneye in terms of multiplayer.

I used to love playing chasm (I think that's what it was called) in Perfect Dark, where there was a set of platforms connecting two areas over a giant pit. I used to love dropping down onto the pipes and taking out people from below.

Both great games and it's such a shame that neither of them are likely to ever grace the VC.

dagreenone

#12

dagreenone said:

Perfect Dark was always better than Goldeneye. People who disagree tend to have never tried Perfect Dark's multiplayer.

NintendoNaut

#15

NintendoNaut said:

I have an N64+Original cart. I hope it comes for those of you without the privilege. Epic game!!!

striker_alpha

#17

striker_alpha said:

i havent played perfect dark so i cant sya anything really but golden is a great game, you know.... this game was even better than zelda in one of the rankings when it first came out. by the way the name is striker, not striker alpha. had to change it for this site becuase someone already has it.

Kevin

#18

Kevin said:

I can care less about both games. Never played too many shooters.

thewiirocks

#19

thewiirocks said:

Ah, GoldenEye. What a great game! Especially in my household of 5 children. (Plenty of multiplayer. ;)) There was nothing better than being... The Man With the Golden Gun

(cue Bond theme)

Kawaiipikachu

#20

Kawaiipikachu said:

I think GoldenEye Alongside Perfect Dark would make great additions to the severce but unfortuanly I can't see Goldeneye ever making it but Perfect Dark might stand a chance.

Xiao_Pai

#23

Xiao_Pai said:

Could care less about these two...not a big fan of FPS. But like someone else said I like the Metroid Primes. I do want Jet Force Gemini, however. >_> ...Stupid Microsoft...lol

RadioShadow

#24

RadioShadow said:

Microsoft = Bunch of Money grabbing hugglebunnies
Rare = Putting N64 games on Xbox 360 (idiots).
Nintendo = AWESOME (95% of the time)!

LorD_SyN_DracuL

#25

LorD_SyN_DracuL said:

this may seem a little random, but i want to see DK64 on wiiware.
idk what the chances are for it, probably much more than GoldenEye.
actually, what they need to do is make a new Donkey Kong game for wii that is similar to DK64, no DonkeyKonga BS.

also, who loved the multiplayer shooter in DK64?

SwerdMurd

#26

SwerdMurd said:

such awful control...keep this game away from my wii. Half life >>>>>> this game.

MarkyVigoroth

#27

MarkyVigoroth said:

Of course GoldenEye is over-rated: such has been getting a lot of attention due to its legal limbo.
(By the way, does anyone know of the "Get Down" meme?)

Jolted85

#28

Jolted85 said:

they could release the game by stripping the 007 part out of the title, they may also have to change some in game text, but it could work, not like most of us have a 360 anyway...

MrPoo6321

#30

MrPoo6321 said:

I still play Goldeneye every now and then on my N64. It's actually aged quite nicely and I still consider it the best First Person Shooter ever. Every FPS I've played since has had to live up to Goldeneye's standards, Perfect Dark being the only one that comes close, IMO. There are some great FPS's that have been released since then, and if it wasn't for Goldeneye, I wonder if a lot of them would have happened. But even Halo, Metroid Prime and Resistance: Fall of Man got nothing on James Bond.

Tyler_100

#31

Tyler_100 said:

I hope there aren't too many classics that are being held up in legality! I want my fav's!

J_K

#32

J_K said:

Sucks that it can't hit the Wii as it should as it's a N64 game, but the game itself can be easily had for nearly nothing since it was so widely produced if you have the n64. Then again 60seconds in google land will get the rom and project64 which runs it fine too.

The_Fox

#33

The_Fox said:

As others have said, Goldeneye is totally overrated. It was (and still is to an extent) an awesome game, but people seem to always put on the rose tinted glasses with this one.

colmtheperson

#34

colmtheperson said:

I remember the days when I'd go over to my friends houses with the N64 controller just to play multiplayer Goldeneye... I'd happily pay the €10 fee to get it on my wii aswell

aaronsullivan

#35

aaronsullivan said:

Goldeneye had incredible replay value, even without multiplayer. I must have played the Facility stage a hundred times with different variations of weapons after earning the cheats. Ridiculously fun! Multiplayer in those games was always a bit meh for me. I mean... I had a PC. Perfect Dark was a huge disappointment with the crap frame rate and boring stages (at least before I gave up on it.) Seems the attraction to that one was the multiplayer, though, so I get why people love it. :)

One of my favorite parts in Goldeneye was the reaction animations when you shot the enemy were classic and took SO long for anyone to mimic. (Also watching the movie again and recognizing the stages! They used blueprints from the actual sets to make the stages, so at times it's identical.)

I remember it was eerie how realistic the faces looked... hmm... that was a loooong time ago.

Jet Force Gemini was a great, great game that suffered from some bloat especially in the later levels. Rare started inflating their games with empty mindless space around that time that ruined them for me. Wasn't as bad in Jet Force Gemini as it was in Donkey Kong 64 and Banjo Tooie.

astarisborn94

#36

astarisborn94 said:

There are two minefields that Nintendo have to cross if we are to see it on the Virtual Console:

1. The company that produce the game is Rare, which is owned by Microsoft.

2. It's a license game, so for some unknown reason, we can't have good license games, only the ***** TMNT game for the NES.

However, this game does stand a slim chance on the Virtual Console. Remember Activision? They added Pitfall: The Mayan Adventure for the Sega Genesis on the Wii and they hold the James Bond licensing games now. So what I'm saying is that Nintendo needs to do a interview with Activision by asking them to put the game on the Virtual Console. That way, if we have just one N64 Rare game, it'll be this. In fact, this may start ending licensing issues on the Virtual Console. It's a good idea and I hope this works out.

Kurachi

#37

Kurachi said:

imo Perfect dark had better multiplayer, but Goldeneye had better storyline and missions were more fun... imo
would be awesome to happen, esspecially if both PD and GE would be on VC :D
i'd buy them both
i dont say it will come, but there's always a chance, in this case an extremely slim chance, but we'll see what they want :)
if they wont come, then we have other games to do :)

Xiao_Pai

#39

Xiao_Pai said:

@Super Smash Bros. Fan1999: Only turtle game I liked on the NES was that arcade one. Apparently there is a third one, never played it though...

And I'm just wanting Jet Force Gemini cuz I've never got the chance to beat it yet. Got past the third boss and that was it...

ajoshi

#40

ajoshi said:

This was a game I at first hated back in the day. I was never a pc gamer and the thought of a fps on a home console just seemed lame to me. However, once a bunch of us got together on a weekend to try it out, we were all hooked. This game really opened up the 64 to multiplayer gaming and improved the fps in my opinion. It was fun all around, despite problems of hanging around the shield and being able to look at the other screens to see where people were.

However, let's be realistic here, this game will likely never come out on VC as disappointing as that sounds. I have a 360 as well as wii and i'm not holding my breath to even see it appear on xbox live. It's like the scenario where a bunch of guys dig the same girl and want her affections, but she's oblivious to it all. all these guys are not going to agree on anything. Same problem here but even more problematic with money involved. It's amazing there's still talk of this concerning the virtual console. ah well....

...it's a great game, but you'd best whip out your n64 to play it.

rustythekid

#41

rustythekid said:

There's a Goledeneye cartridge near my house at only $10 and a Pilotwings one at $5

...too bad I don't have a 64 anymore :(

oh and RadioShadow I fixed it for you

Microsoft = Bunch of Money grabbing hugglebunnies
Rare = Putting N64 games on Xbox 360 (idiots).
Nintendo = AWESOME (except on Mondays)*!

or Friday, that depends where you are

ttplayer92

#42

ttplayer92 said:

@RadioShadow
Thats funny, I specifically remeber it was the bunch of money grabbing hugglebunnies up at Nintendo that blocked the release of GoldenEye on BOTH XBLA and VC. :|

Turbo_Genesis_64

#43

Turbo_Genesis_64 said:

I'm going to step up my attacks on Goldeneye.

Battletanx: Global Assault was always better than Goldeneye too!

supbilly

#44

supbilly said:

Argh, please don't be a screenshot of GoldenEye on the VC website, I almost peed my pants!

Suikon

#45

Suikon said:

I would love to see both Goldeneye and Perfect Dark be released on either consoles. I have both games on my old N64, but I find my N64 controllers are difficult to play with, especially because the stick >_> Treatment's been too rough I guess. So yeah, playing the games with a responsive controller would be great.

There's a lot of nostalgia in these games for many, so even if they have aged, I'm sure they'd sell like hell if they appeared. Besides, they're real quality games, so it'd be a nice addition.

Darel18

#46

Darel18 said:

I would love to see this game more on WiiWare than VC... Why? 'Cuz with WiiWare this game might get an update, like multiplayer online =D (in fact, is the only update I will care about), same thing for Perfect Dark.

Those two will be instant buy for 1200 Nintendo Points if they want!

Btw, I love Perfect Dark more thant Goldeneye 64, both are great games.

Perfect Dark (N64) is the best FPS ever made until today =)

BlueFlameBat

#47

BlueFlameBat said:

I wish they'd just release it on both systems ... and maybe even PS3 for good measure. Give everyone a chance.

squeath2001

#48

squeath2001 said:

this was the game that started the whole deathmatch thing as far as i can remember. We used to play this in college all the time i probably flunked some tests cuz of this one. If all parties involved were smart they would release this one cuz it would make them money. Anything can happen in these tough economic times, RELEASE GOLDENEYE. OH AND IT IS WAY BETTER THAN PERFECT DARK ENOUGH SAID DISCUSSION OVER

miletich3

#49

miletich3 said:

Just X360! Goldeneye belongs to Rare and Rare should rerelease it with Euphoria, DMM, and of course, Havok.

BlueFlameBat

#51

BlueFlameBat said:

I'm more a Perfect Dark person myself. It could just be my preference for female protagonists though.

supbilly

#52

supbilly said:

I would be so upset if this came to Xbox and not the Wii. Especially as the Rare we knew and loved back then is now virtually a completely different company. But if they won't release Banjo-Kazooie on the Wii's VC, but have done so for XBox, then unfortunately it's a sign of things to come if this ever did get out of its legal loop. I was playing this a few months back on my N64, I still find it as playable and fun as it always was. I loved multiplayer with my friends after school, I was always Oddjob because he was harder to shoot!

Ian_Daemon

#53

Ian_Daemon said:

Why wouldn't Martin Hollis want GoldenEye on the VC? It would represent virtually zero work on his part and (depending on prior agreements) more money. This seems like a "no brainer" to me.

Did anyone play the re-created GoldenEye maps for Quake 2? They were awesome. (http://www.yeahdogg.com/quakeii)

KeroKero_Cola

#54

KeroKero_Cola said:

Ahh... so many great memories with this game. I remember staying up to the crack of dawn with friends playing multi-player matches. Whether the game comes out on the virtual console or on Xbox Live Arcade, I'm covered.

Nightsky071

#55

Nightsky071 said:

Man...... I think what started on a Nintendo system should have the right to be on a Nintendo system. Rare sucks, I've wanted to see Wii VC get Conkers BFD, Golden Eye, Perfeck Dark, and Donkey kong 64. IDC for Banjo.
Especially Donkey kong 64

JimLad

#56

JimLad said:

A $375,000,000 aquisition, in the end comes down to a few N64 games for Xbox Live Arcade. Nice one :D

Invertedzero

#57

Invertedzero said:

BOOO! Why can't some of these developers/publishers just get over these silly legal arguments, and do an odd collaboration. Making these exclusive is hardly going to make anyone buy one console or another, just a section of unhappy gamers, and less overall profits for Rare. Can't they just take a leaf out of Sega and Nintendo's collaboration on games like FZero and Mario and Sonic, and other partys with Super smash Bros Brawl? A mutual agreement would see gamers happy, Rare making money off both consoles, and the games being in the place's they should be on both Nintendo's and Microsoft's console. I mean surely nintendo had some rights to the Banjo Kazooie games on the N64? I find the whole situation strange.

Slionr

#58

Slionr said:

I realy wish rare would once again work with nintendo... after they began working with microsoft.... it just has not been the same, to be honest. Yes, Conkers live&reload, and Kameo was good games, but in the end.... I just miss the old spark from those old N64,Genesis, SNES and NES-games. I wish those clasics would come back and rare will give new games for nintendo (and realy, I NEVER liked PD:Z and Banjo Kazooie on the 350)

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