@progx Project Eve was originally announced for PC and Series X. It's now being marketed for PS5, but I can't find a definitive answer as to exclusivity anywhere. Sometimes timed exclusivity deals specify not mentioning the duration of exclusivity, which is probably why I can't find out. Hm
@Themagusx1 so, your response is that you prefer Nintendo's games over the competition, but that's not really relevant to the quality of the online service. Whether or not you want to use a feature, the lack of that feature in comparison to the competition doesn't make it a virtue. If there were integrated voice chat on Switch, it would be of benefit to others and you could just not use it, if you so chose, or just use it with friends, even mute unwanted users should you prefer to.Regarding using Discord, PlayStation and Xbox users can also use Discord and/or the integrated chat system if they so please. Personally, when I game I use headphones, as I'm sure many others do. If there were no integrated voice chat I would have to use a phone or a pc to manage Discord, also I would need some way to mix the sound in order to have both sound sources into one audio source. This makes it necessary to use additional devices i.e. a mixer. However I achieved it, that wouldn't add up to it being a virtue of NSO.
@BanjoPickles "Please, I want somebody to give me an actual REASON why the NSO is a ripoff"
Okay. NSO doesn't have integrated voice chat, messaging, a properly functioning friend system without friend codes. The online play is still peer-to-peer and the netcode is crap. Paywalling cloud saves while locking away the ability to transfer and store local saves is pathetic. Sony and Microsoft offer much more modern games with their services, games that don't require a continued subscription to keep. Their services are more expensive, but by contrast they also represent much better value, with modern features, superior online systems in just about every respect. Microsoft offers cloud saves completely free, no subscription. Neither Sony nor Microsoft prevent you from making and storing your own local save files. NSO may be cheap, but it's cheap sh*t, looks sh*t compared to the competition, and soon to be more expensive sh*t that's been rolled in glitter.
@slowp0ketail Early consoles, for example Pong, didn't have interchangeable games. A games console is still a console even if it only gives access to one game.
@HedgehogEngine It's a fact that the faster response time of oled panels will exacerbate problems with low frame-rates and inconsistent frame rates, something that numerous high-profile Switch releases have suffered from. Burn-in is still a problem for oled displays, this is why there are efforts and instructions to mitigate it. Some would rather not deal with the risk associated with it. Oled has matured as far as it will go, soon to be replaced by micro-led. Using r-tings as an absolute authority really isn't the way to go, and while I haven't read their review of my tv, I'd be surprised if they have many bad things to say about the 65" Samsung QN95A, considering how well it has been reviewed and compared to oled just about everywhere, so I won't need to post a link to "get you started".
@HedgehogEngine OLED displays are only as sharp as their native resolution, just the same as IPS or VA panels. Claiming otherwise is sadly reminiscent of Sony fanboys and their "magical ssd". Blooming is caused by backlighting, but full local array dimming mitigates this, and also benefits from complete freedom from image retention. Bloom has nothing to do with resolution. Further, frame rates below 30fps will look noticeably worse on an oled display than they do on an IPS or VA panel. Stop peddling nonsense.
“It’s not cool that people aren’t able to play older games because they’re locked out of the platform, so of course if anything was possible we’d like to bring over any of those older titles to the newer platforms."
To me, this reads as a great argument for backwards compatibility, and a poor excuse for endless ports. Come at me bro.
@tourjeff I think your best bet is eBay. I had a quick look around the online stores I normally use, and everywhere I looked has sold out of the Switch version.
The Anniversary edition previously only released physically in North America and Canada, to the best of my knowledge. I was unaware of this release up until just recently, and have ordered but not yet received the xbox one version. The PS4 version has a download key for the 5th anniversary weapon bundle and the Hellraid dlc, and the disc is just a reprint of the The Following Enhanced Edition. The xbox one version has a disc and no download code. I guess this doesn't necessarily mean that everything is on the disc, but at least the disc acting as a key for some extra content is still preferable to a single use code. If the Switch version is all on the cart I will definitely get it. I still haven't let go of the idea of a physical and complete Alien Isolation release for Switch. On the downside, I don't care about stickers, a map, a box or a guide as much as I do a steelbook. That collector's edition is strictly for the birds.
@electrolite77 Nintendo's declining market share in the UK is made up? This despite being suggested by me in response to Nintendo prioritising a less important market for a new hardware launch, on an article that points out PS5 now outperforming the Switch in the sales charts?
This isn't the first time you've addressed me directly, as if I should leave the site or not comment just because you have deemed yourself the arbiter of what opinions should be allowed to be expressed. This is a position you hold only in your own imagination, you should cease trying to wield it, it breaks the illusion. Also, it's not really surprising that others would have labelled you a troll. To ignore with you.
@electrolite77 I don't know what you think is "made up". Even if it's true that Europe had preorders open at the same time as the UK, that's still before North America and Japan, where Switch is performing more strongly than it is the UK. Your assertion that I "don't like Nintendo" is actually false. My Nintendo console history dates back to the SNES, which I owned when it was still current hardware. Subsequent to that I have owned every home console up to but not including Switch and a few handhelds too. My Wii and Wii U are still hooked up and ready to play at a moments notice. Despite not owning a Switch, I still have a collection of around 45 Switch titles, while i wait for Nintendo to produce a piece of hardware that isn't overpriced for its power level, doesn't have controllers with faulty sticks and won't bend or warp, resulting in cracks appearing in the rear casing. I love nIntendo, I don't like the Switch, especially when compared to their previous hardware which was produced to a much higher standard. There's a certain kind of "fan" that can't stand any level of negativity aimed at their favourite console, even if the criticism is justified. It seems you fall into that category, however fans that have a more objective perspective and don't view Nintendo as if it is a football team can and will continue to point out where the modern Nintendo is failing compared to their previous standards. We're not going anywhere. For Iwata.
This is why Nintendo opened preorders for the OLED model in the UK before any other territory, because they prioritised a market they already knew they were losing market share in. Nintendo fans love to read the stories that feature Nintendo dominating the top 10 so try not to get too salty about this one. It's reality, after all.
@StefanN I guess I must be more annoyed about it being written as "Volkswagon" in the list than you were. It's a pet hate of mine. To me the only thing worse than reading it spelt that way is hearing someone say it as if it is.
@Digimon24 What a fascinating specimen you are. To the ignore list with you, since you clearly have nothing of interest to say. I wouldn't be surprised if your own family has you on ignore lol
@Mips Steam Deck can use keyboard and mouse. You don't see the irony in criticising the Steam Deck for a lack of power, and then saying these are reasons you'll stick with a Switch, a far less powerful system that doesn't support keyboard and mouse?
@DrDaisy Why shouldn't the Steam Deck be covered? It's news, after all. If you want to talk embarassment, to me I don't know what's more embarassing, your cringy raging fanboy comment, or that the comment got so many likes here in such a short space of time.
@Thrallherd Now you're just being strange. The Steam Deck can supports displayport up to 8k 30 and has been seen doing 4k 60, and it can do this via a non-proprietary usb-c cable or an as yet to be seen dock. Not only will it be excellent for video streaming, it can also be used as a dual display, for example if playing a game and streaming, the chat could be displayed on the Steam Deck, and the game on the tv or monitor. Hardly irrelevant abilities and certainly these are things that neither Switch can do.
@Digimon24 Dumbness refers to the inability to talk, it's a disability. The fact that you are using an ablist slur against me, and not any kind of cogent argument against the points I have made means I can assume that the irony in this has also eluded you.
@Jooles_95 Did you actually play the Wii U version of Breath of the Wild? It would have performed much better had features already shown off as being included hadn't been removed in order to make the Switch version look better in comparison. The Wii U release was delayed in order for development focus to shift to the Switch, while nIntendo gaslit the Wii U fanbase as they abandoned the Wii U while claiming they had done no such thing. BOTW is a Wii U game, that you prefer to think otherwise doesn't change that fact. MK8, the "outlier" as you prefer to refer to it, is literally the biggest selling piece of software on the Switch. If all the port sales are added together, how many total sales do you think that makes? There's just no telling a fanboy, logic is useless with you.
@Jooles_95 Breath of the Wild and Mario Kart 8 are both Wii U games, those two are the biggest and fourth best selling titles on Switch, accounting for 60 million units alone.
@Bret My statement was a qualified statement, not a definite one. It began with "I think", so I'm clearly stating an opinion, I'm not actually stating that Nintendo will consider Switch a failure as an absolute fact. Most of the replies I've had are from people that believe they know for a fact.
My belief is that Nintendo wanted Switch to serve both as handheld and home console equally, and that it wasn't actually just marketing. While it could be argued that Switch is Nintendo's greatest handheld, it's also arguably technically their worst home console. If the aim was to serve both markets, then I don't believe it has or will do that fully, and if that was the aim then it will have failed in this respect regardless of how much money is made.
@Bret I have never cited revisions as a reason for a console failing. Just for you, I will quote myself. This time, read it carefully.
"It's just as easy to assume from the current numbers, that Nintendo have boosted their handheld user numbers from the 3DS days and all but completely lost their home console userbase. I expect Nintendo knows this to be the case, this would certainly explain why the Switch has had three revisions and yet the biggest gesture they have made to the importance of Switch as a home console to date is swapping a usb port for a LAN one and raising the price by 50$ for the privelege."
I state quite clearly that I interpret all three revisions catering to handheld as evidence that Nintendo knows the Switch is serving a primarily handheld audience. Either you have poor reading comprehension or you are just trolling.
@Jooles_95 Nintendo's operating profit has been boosted by not having to plow so much money into development, with all the Wii U ports and even Wii ports we've been seeing. It can't go on forever, unless Nintendo can just port all the Switch titles to the next console and have their fanbase buy them all again. On second thoughts, if the comment section here is anything to go by, actually they can do that. It can go on forever. hurrah.
@Bret I've "lost the thread"? Are you just setting up a strawman or did you not really read what I wrote? The revisions were not referenced by me as a measure of success, they were referenced as proof that Nintendo hasn't treated the Switch as equally home console and handheld, despite the marketing. I thought it was very clear. Also, including the Wii in your point about revisions seems strange considering the first Wii revision removed the Gamecube functionality and then the Wii mini removed just about everything else that made the console worth buying. They were both downgrades, the Wii mini was a pathetic cash grab and was reviewed widely as such.
Your point about the "crossover", which you aren't the only one to make, doesn't really hold water from a business perspective. 100% crossover would see a company selling half as many units of hardware as previously, and potentially needing to clear double the software on that platform. Of course it's not going to be 100% but consolidating your sales into less sales isn't typically more profitable.
@Bret following this logic, you'd expect Nintendo to have a committed userbase for handheld and home console, yet Wii U only sold 13 million units. How big can this dedicated fanbase really be? It's just as easy to assume from the current numbers, that Nintendo have boosted their handheld user numbers from the 3DS days and all but completely lost their home console userbase. I expect NIntendo knows this to be the case, this would certainly explain why the Switch has had three revisions and yet the biggest gesture they have made to the importance of Switch as a home console to date is swapping a usb port for a LAN one and raising the price by 50$ for the privelege.
@Dringo What Nintendo will state publically and what they will state privately are two different things, also I imagine their profit margins must be especially huge, considering how little this generation has relied on internal development and more on ports of older games, predominantly from the Wii U. That can't go on forever, though.
There is naturally a crossover between handheld and home console users, yes. I didn't say that Nintendo should absolutely expect the best case combined, nevertheless the gulf between 250 million and 90 million is not inconsiderable. Nice strawman, though, because I see other Defendos have picked it up and are now repeating it at me lol
@Balta666 the article literally states that sales have slowed, so you're saying that the article is wrong? Where do you get your competing figures from? The idea that Nintendo would want a system that accounts for both home and handheld console sales to equal the combined figure for strong sales of both isn't hard to understand, unless you believe that NIntendo consolidating handheld and home console development into one department was them conceding the home console market.
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Re: Rumour: Developers Have Reportedly Been Working On "4K Switch Games"
@Kreko The article doesn't state what form factor the console takes.
Re: Nintendo Announces New Splatoon And Smash Bros. Tournaments For The US And UK
Even the prizes are stuck in the past lol
Re: Gallery: Feast Your Eyes On 21 Screenshots Of Bayonetta 3
@progx also, how do you know how Project Eve feels? Is there a playable demo?
Re: Gallery: Feast Your Eyes On 21 Screenshots Of Bayonetta 3
@progx Project Eve was originally announced for PC and Series X. It's now being marketed for PS5, but I can't find a definitive answer as to exclusivity anywhere. Sometimes timed exclusivity deals specify not mentioning the duration of exclusivity, which is probably why I can't find out. Hm
Re: Gallery: Feast Your Eyes On 21 Screenshots Of Bayonetta 3
I'm not really feeling Bayonetta's more "conservative" costume design. Project Eve might just eat Bayonetta's lunch. We'll see.
Re: Nintendo 64 And Sega Genesis 'Expansion Pack' Announced For Switch Online, Launches This October
@Themagusx1 so, your response is that you prefer Nintendo's games over the competition, but that's not really relevant to the quality of the online service. Whether or not you want to use a feature, the lack of that feature in comparison to the competition doesn't make it a virtue. If there were integrated voice chat on Switch, it would be of benefit to others and you could just not use it, if you so chose, or just use it with friends, even mute unwanted users should you prefer to.Regarding using Discord, PlayStation and Xbox users can also use Discord and/or the integrated chat system if they so please. Personally, when I game I use headphones, as I'm sure many others do. If there were no integrated voice chat I would have to use a phone or a pc to manage Discord, also I would need some way to mix the sound in order to have both sound sources into one audio source. This makes it necessary to use additional devices i.e. a mixer. However I achieved it, that wouldn't add up to it being a virtue of NSO.
Re: Nintendo 64 And Sega Genesis 'Expansion Pack' Announced For Switch Online, Launches This October
@BanjoPickles "Please, I want somebody to give me an actual REASON why the NSO is a ripoff"
Okay. NSO doesn't have integrated voice chat, messaging, a properly functioning friend system without friend codes. The online play is still peer-to-peer and the netcode is crap. Paywalling cloud saves while locking away the ability to transfer and store local saves is pathetic. Sony and Microsoft offer much more modern games with their services, games that don't require a continued subscription to keep. Their services are more expensive, but by contrast they also represent much better value, with modern features, superior online systems in just about every respect. Microsoft offers cloud saves completely free, no subscription. Neither Sony nor Microsoft prevent you from making and storing your own local save files. NSO may be cheap, but it's cheap sh*t, looks sh*t compared to the competition, and soon to be more expensive sh*t that's been rolled in glitter.
Re: Poll: Do You Call Handhelds Like Game Boy And Nintendo DS 'Consoles'?
@JonEnumber5 In the words of Tyler Durden; "Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken."
Re: Poll: Do You Call Handhelds Like Game Boy And Nintendo DS 'Consoles'?
@slowp0ketail Early consoles, for example Pong, didn't have interchangeable games. A games console is still a console even if it only gives access to one game.
Re: Alan Wake Remastered Has Been Rated For Nintendo Switch
@xshinox "since the original game was a 360 exclusive, not many gamers got to play it"
What? Alan Wake was on Xbox 360, not Wii U. The final tally for Xbox 360 was 84 million consoles sold.
Re: Nintendo's Switch OLED Model Makes Its First Public Appearance In Japan
@HedgehogEngine It's a fact that the faster response time of oled panels will exacerbate problems with low frame-rates and inconsistent frame rates, something that numerous high-profile Switch releases have suffered from. Burn-in is still a problem for oled displays, this is why there are efforts and instructions to mitigate it. Some would rather not deal with the risk associated with it. Oled has matured as far as it will go, soon to be replaced by micro-led.
Using r-tings as an absolute authority really isn't the way to go, and while I haven't read their review of my tv, I'd be surprised if they have many bad things to say about the 65" Samsung QN95A, considering how well it has been reviewed and compared to oled just about everywhere, so I won't need to post a link to "get you started".
Re: Nintendo's Switch OLED Model Makes Its First Public Appearance In Japan
@HedgehogEngine OLED displays are only as sharp as their native resolution, just the same as IPS or VA panels. Claiming otherwise is sadly reminiscent of Sony fanboys and their "magical ssd". Blooming is caused by backlighting, but full local array dimming mitigates this, and also benefits from complete freedom from image retention. Bloom has nothing to do with resolution. Further, frame rates below 30fps will look noticeably worse on an oled display than they do on an IPS or VA panel. Stop peddling nonsense.
Re: Platinum Would "Definitely" Port Star Fox Zero To Switch, If Given The Opportunity
“It’s not cool that people aren’t able to play older games because they’re locked out of the platform, so of course if anything was possible we’d like to bring over any of those older titles to the newer platforms."
To me, this reads as a great argument for backwards compatibility, and a poor excuse for endless ports. Come at me bro.
Re: Reminder: Game Builder Garage's European Physical Release Launches Today
@tourjeff I think your best bet is eBay. I had a quick look around the online stores I normally use, and everywhere I looked has sold out of the Switch version.
Re: Platinum Really Wants To Show You Bayonetta 3, But It Can't
I have a suspicion that Nintendo want to shift Bayonetta to their next generation of hardware, whenever and whatever that might be.
Re: Toshiba Sounds Alarm About Ongoing Chip Supply Issues
@SalvorHardin when software's a problem, focus on vaporware.
Re: Rumour: Could Monolith Soft's Website Be A Hint At A Xenoblade 3 Nintendo Direct?
@MetalMario So that's the true power of the Monado!
Re: Site News: So, Where's Our Baldo Review?
If all the bugs get ironed out and the patched version is released physically, I will surely buy this.
Re: Dying Light Platinum Edition Is Heading To Switch
The Anniversary edition previously only released physically in North America and Canada, to the best of my knowledge. I was unaware of this release up until just recently, and have ordered but not yet received the xbox one version. The PS4 version has a download key for the 5th anniversary weapon bundle and the Hellraid dlc, and the disc is just a reprint of the The Following Enhanced Edition. The xbox one version has a disc and no download code. I guess this doesn't necessarily mean that everything is on the disc, but at least the disc acting as a key for some extra content is still preferable to a single use code.
If the Switch version is all on the cart I will definitely get it. I still haven't let go of the idea of a physical and complete Alien Isolation release for Switch.
On the downside, I don't care about stickers, a map, a box or a guide as much as I do a steelbook. That collector's edition is strictly for the birds.
Re: Purchase A Digital Copy Of Pokémon Legends: Arceus And Receive 30 Heavy Balls At Launch
Wow some of those textures look like pure garbage.
Re: UK Charts: Switch Games Slip Down The Pecking Order As PlayStation Runs Riot
@electrolite77 Nintendo's declining market share in the UK is made up? This despite being suggested by me in response to Nintendo prioritising a less important market for a new hardware launch, on an article that points out PS5 now outperforming the Switch in the sales charts?
This isn't the first time you've addressed me directly, as if I should leave the site or not comment just because you have deemed yourself the arbiter of what opinions should be allowed to be expressed. This is a position you hold only in your own imagination, you should cease trying to wield it, it breaks the illusion. Also, it's not really surprising that others would have labelled you a troll. To ignore with you.
Re: UK Charts: Switch Games Slip Down The Pecking Order As PlayStation Runs Riot
@electrolite77 I don't know what you think is "made up". Even if it's true that Europe had preorders open at the same time as the UK, that's still before North America and Japan, where Switch is performing more strongly than it is the UK. Your assertion that I "don't like Nintendo" is actually false. My Nintendo console history dates back to the SNES, which I owned when it was still current hardware. Subsequent to that I have owned every home console up to but not including Switch and a few handhelds too. My Wii and Wii U are still hooked up and ready to play at a moments notice. Despite not owning a Switch, I still have a collection of around 45 Switch titles, while i wait for Nintendo to produce a piece of hardware that isn't overpriced for its power level, doesn't have controllers with faulty sticks and won't bend or warp, resulting in cracks appearing in the rear casing. I love nIntendo, I don't like the Switch, especially when compared to their previous hardware which was produced to a much higher standard.
There's a certain kind of "fan" that can't stand any level of negativity aimed at their favourite console, even if the criticism is justified. It seems you fall into that category, however fans that have a more objective perspective and don't view Nintendo as if it is a football team can and will continue to point out where the modern Nintendo is failing compared to their previous standards. We're not going anywhere. For Iwata.
Re: UK Charts: Switch Games Slip Down The Pecking Order As PlayStation Runs Riot
@electrolite77 Your emoji is close to the truth at least, if not the absolute truth. At least it has the tears, I guess.
Re: UK Charts: Switch Games Slip Down The Pecking Order As PlayStation Runs Riot
This is why Nintendo opened preorders for the OLED model in the UK before any other territory, because they prioritised a market they already knew they were losing market share in. Nintendo fans love to read the stories that feature Nintendo dominating the top 10 so try not to get too salty about this one. It's reality, after all.
Re: Random: Rapper Soulja Boy Claims He Owns Atari, Atari Doesn't Agree
@Leprecorn Clearly, he should have made a deal to promote the Playdate.
Re: Hands On: One Man's Vision Shaped The GBA-Style GameForce CHI
"don't get expecting Nintendo-style quality here." - that sounds like a plus to me.
Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Receives Its First Update - Resolves "Several Issues"
A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad ... at least until we patch it. 20 years after the original release date.
Re: Gamescom 2021 Conference Times, Dates, How To Watch, Everything You Need To Know
@StefanN I guess I must be more annoyed about it being written as "Volkswagon" in the list than you were. It's a pet hate of mine. To me the only thing worse than reading it spelt that way is hearing someone say it as if it is.
Re: Gamescom 2021 Conference Times, Dates, How To Watch, Everything You Need To Know
I sure hope no-one dares to mention that they wish to see the Steam Deck there, that's all I can say.
Re: Round Up: First "Hands-On" Impressions Of Valve's Steam Deck - How Does It Compare To Switch?
@galaxidion your opinion is niche.
Re: Round Up: First "Hands-On" Impressions Of Valve's Steam Deck - How Does It Compare To Switch?
@Imerion do you even lift, bro?
Re: Switch Console Sales Hit 89 Million, Has Now Outsold PS3 And Xbox 360
@Digimon24 What a fascinating specimen you are. To the ignore list with you, since you clearly have nothing of interest to say. I wouldn't be surprised if your own family has you on ignore lol
Re: Round Up: Here Are The First "Hands-On" Impressions Of Valve's Steam Deck
@Mips Steam Deck can use keyboard and mouse. You don't see the irony in criticising the Steam Deck for a lack of power, and then saying these are reasons you'll stick with a Switch, a far less powerful system that doesn't support keyboard and mouse?
Re: Round Up: Here Are The First "Hands-On" Impressions Of Valve's Steam Deck
@DrDaisy Why shouldn't the Steam Deck be covered? It's news, after all. If you want to talk embarassment, to me I don't know what's more embarassing, your cringy raging fanboy comment, or that the comment got so many likes here in such a short space of time.
Re: Here's What The Nintendo Switch Looks Like Next To Valve's Steam Deck
@Mips You like keyboard and mouse, which the Steam Deck actually fully supports, but you're going to stick to the Switch. Okay, then.
Re: Here's What The Nintendo Switch Looks Like Next To Valve's Steam Deck
@Thrallherd Now you're just being strange. The Steam Deck can supports displayport up to 8k 30 and has been seen doing 4k 60, and it can do this via a non-proprietary usb-c cable or an as yet to be seen dock. Not only will it be excellent for video streaming, it can also be used as a dual display, for example if playing a game and streaming, the chat could be displayed on the Steam Deck, and the game on the tv or monitor. Hardly irrelevant abilities and certainly these are things that neither Switch can do.
Re: Here's What The Nintendo Switch Looks Like Next To Valve's Steam Deck
@Heavyarms55 I guess your arms must not be as heavy as your moniker might suggest, then.
Re: Switch Console Sales Hit 89 Million, Has Now Outsold PS3 And Xbox 360
@Digimon24 Dumbness refers to the inability to talk, it's a disability. The fact that you are using an ablist slur against me, and not any kind of cogent argument against the points I have made means I can assume that the irony in this has also eluded you.
Re: Zelda: Skyward Sword HD Players Report Language-Specific Glitch That Ruins The Final Boss
The Nintendo seal of quality strikes again.
Re: Switch Hardware Sales Reach 89 Million Despite Facing A Year-On-Year Slump
@Jooles_95 Did you actually play the Wii U version of Breath of the Wild? It would have performed much better had features already shown off as being included hadn't been removed in order to make the Switch version look better in comparison. The Wii U release was delayed in order for development focus to shift to the Switch, while nIntendo gaslit the Wii U fanbase as they abandoned the Wii U while claiming they had done no such thing. BOTW is a Wii U game, that you prefer to think otherwise doesn't change that fact. MK8, the "outlier" as you prefer to refer to it, is literally the biggest selling piece of software on the Switch. If all the port sales are added together, how many total sales do you think that makes? There's just no telling a fanboy, logic is useless with you.
Re: Switch Hardware Sales Reach 89 Million Despite Facing A Year-On-Year Slump
@Jooles_95 Breath of the Wild and Mario Kart 8 are both Wii U games, those two are the biggest and fourth best selling titles on Switch, accounting for 60 million units alone.
Re: Switch Hardware Sales Reach 89 Million Despite Facing A Year-On-Year Slump
@Bret My statement was a qualified statement, not a definite one. It began with "I think", so I'm clearly stating an opinion, I'm not actually stating that Nintendo will consider Switch a failure as an absolute fact. Most of the replies I've had are from people that believe they know for a fact.
My belief is that Nintendo wanted Switch to serve both as handheld and home console equally, and that it wasn't actually just marketing. While it could be argued that Switch is Nintendo's greatest handheld, it's also arguably technically their worst home console. If the aim was to serve both markets, then I don't believe it has or will do that fully, and if that was the aim then it will have failed in this respect regardless of how much money is made.
Re: Switch Hardware Sales Reach 89 Million Despite Facing A Year-On-Year Slump
@Bret I have never cited revisions as a reason for a console failing. Just for you, I will quote myself. This time, read it carefully.
"It's just as easy to assume from the current numbers, that Nintendo have boosted their handheld user numbers from the 3DS days and all but completely lost their home console userbase. I expect Nintendo knows this to be the case, this would certainly explain why the Switch has had three revisions and yet the biggest gesture they have made to the importance of Switch as a home console to date is swapping a usb port for a LAN one and raising the price by 50$ for the privelege."
I state quite clearly that I interpret all three revisions catering to handheld as evidence that Nintendo knows the Switch is serving a primarily handheld audience. Either you have poor reading comprehension or you are just trolling.
Re: Switch Hardware Sales Reach 89 Million Despite Facing A Year-On-Year Slump
@Jooles_95 Nintendo's operating profit has been boosted by not having to plow so much money into development, with all the Wii U ports and even Wii ports we've been seeing. It can't go on forever, unless Nintendo can just port all the Switch titles to the next console and have their fanbase buy them all again. On second thoughts, if the comment section here is anything to go by, actually they can do that. It can go on forever. hurrah.
Re: Switch Hardware Sales Reach 89 Million Despite Facing A Year-On-Year Slump
@Bret I've "lost the thread"? Are you just setting up a strawman or did you not really read what I wrote? The revisions were not referenced by me as a measure of success, they were referenced as proof that Nintendo hasn't treated the Switch as equally home console and handheld, despite the marketing. I thought it was very clear. Also, including the Wii in your point about revisions seems strange considering the first Wii revision removed the Gamecube functionality and then the Wii mini removed just about everything else that made the console worth buying. They were both downgrades, the Wii mini was a pathetic cash grab and was reviewed widely as such.
Your point about the "crossover", which you aren't the only one to make, doesn't really hold water from a business perspective. 100% crossover would see a company selling half as many units of hardware as previously, and potentially needing to clear double the software on that platform. Of course it's not going to be 100% but consolidating your sales into less sales isn't typically more profitable.
Re: Random: This Vintage Metroid Cosplay Is Terrible, And We Absolutely Love It
I think we've found the final character to be added to Smash.
Re: Nintendo To Spend Up To $900 Million To Buy Back Its Own Shares
@Friendly you should be a big fan of Valve then, that company isn't even publicly traded.
Re: Switch Hardware Sales Reach 89 Million Despite Facing A Year-On-Year Slump
@Bret following this logic, you'd expect Nintendo to have a committed userbase for handheld and home console, yet Wii U only sold 13 million units. How big can this dedicated fanbase really be? It's just as easy to assume from the current numbers, that Nintendo have boosted their handheld user numbers from the 3DS days and all but completely lost their home console userbase. I expect NIntendo knows this to be the case, this would certainly explain why the Switch has had three revisions and yet the biggest gesture they have made to the importance of Switch as a home console to date is swapping a usb port for a LAN one and raising the price by 50$ for the privelege.
Re: Switch Hardware Sales Reach 89 Million Despite Facing A Year-On-Year Slump
@Dringo What Nintendo will state publically and what they will state privately are two different things, also I imagine their profit margins must be especially huge, considering how little this generation has relied on internal development and more on ports of older games, predominantly from the Wii U. That can't go on forever, though.
There is naturally a crossover between handheld and home console users, yes. I didn't say that Nintendo should absolutely expect the best case combined, nevertheless the gulf between 250 million and 90 million is not inconsiderable. Nice strawman, though, because I see other Defendos have picked it up and are now repeating it at me lol
Re: Switch Hardware Sales Reach 89 Million Despite Facing A Year-On-Year Slump
@Balta666 the article literally states that sales have slowed, so you're saying that the article is wrong? Where do you get your competing figures from? The idea that Nintendo would want a system that accounts for both home and handheld console sales to equal the combined figure for strong sales of both isn't hard to understand, unless you believe that NIntendo consolidating handheld and home console development into one department was them conceding the home console market.