'Kingdom Hearts Integrum Masterpiece' Collection Brings The Entire Saga To Switch

If it's a Cloud version it simply means the game is still not available on the system. Don't fall for their marketing bs.

I was watching the presentation live and went "Yeeeees!" when Sakurai said Kingdom Hearts was coming to Switch, only to go "Aw, dammit!" when he revealed it was cloud-based. Since I care about owning my games I'll probably get the PC version once it goes on sale.

I can't think of anything I'd rather play less. Although the Tron bits in whichever were kind of cool.

Might buy it if it’s not too high priced, and on at least 75% sale. Just because it’s the only option for a Nintendo-only gamer.
Would gladly play full price if it wasn’t a cloud version.

I can understand the Cloud for KH3, but not the others. They are just not ready to put any efforts on this.

Getting a 2nd hand ps4 and the games wouldn't be much more expensive than the cloud access assuming it'll go for around 60$.

I wonder whether I could steam them an image of money instead of paying for the game...

Sorry, but this does not detract from the fact its "Cloud Based" in other words a money grabbing scam.

Or are they talking about Cloud from FF VII being in it? (joke)

Wow another article with more details on a CLOUD VERSION NOT "an all-in-one digital package" as said in the above article

Would have nabbed this if it was physical. Sure i can get it for ps4 but for me this would be a perfect fit for the switch and something id play on my lunch break at work etc. Cloud based gaming removes this functionality and makes the best reason for owning a switch completely redundant, portability. Massive shame really.

Cloud-based gaming is fake news and can go suck a rope.

Cloud? For real??
Sigh.

I'm a fan of Cloud. But not this cloud.

Better get a Series S.

Cloud system on Switch is terrible. 60$ for only one game which won't work when server is down.

You will never own a cloud game, because it's nothing more than a overpriced rental at lower quality.
Don't trick yourself into thinking you own a cloud game.

The only sub that does it right is Game Pass. Way more games for cheap. Play natively or from Cloud.
Game Pass is so much better at a way lower price.

I have an amazing internet speed and the games are gonna be extremely cheap in a couple of months on the eshop, of course I'm gonna pick them up.

Cloud haters can complain however they want, I've been enjoying countless games with Xcloud on my potato pc, can't wait to see what direction Nintendo will take with cloud gaming in the future.

@BlueOcean Yeah. Xbox Series S is available everywhere and is the best option.

As a bonus you get Game Pass, and the Rare Replay collection with 30 games people still nag about.

Who would pay for all these games when you won’t own them?!!!! And Cloud games on portable device? That’s like selling me Scuba Diving equipment on MT Everest. These guys just don’t think. Doom deserved so much more to be on Switch as a main fighter with so much effort put into Eternal. Now we have Sora with Zero effort on making any ports at all. Nintendo should learn not to listen just to fans, but to people who actually deserve the praise and actual representation in Smash!

"Wrapping up all of this content will be the 'Kingdom Hearts Integrum Masterpiece' collection, an all-in-one digital package" +
"The entire collection will be cloud-based on Switch" Don't piss on me then tell me it's raining.

Let's be clear. These two things aren't compatible, and this reeks of mandated marketing terminology. First we are fed "a disc is just a licence, so digital and physical are just the same" and now "cloud games are digital collections". It warmed my heart to see the response of this community on the Kingdom Hearts cloud version poll. It was so overwhelmingly negative that the future is looking very bright, in fact one might say with not a cloud to be seen. Cloud gaming is only the future if we accept it. I say no. I would have bought this collection like so many others, despite like so many others already owning it on PS4. No sale.

@sanderev Nah, I'll just sit and enjoy playing the games on my Switch instead

Get the PS4 version in disc and it saves your day.

@wanghosom
Comparing 60$ for one Cloud game on Switch vs Game Pass sub with over 200 games where you also have the option to play natively on PC and Xbox is just wrong.

Remember on Switch. It's a 60$ rental fee for one game. When server goes down, you lose the game. Server problems. Game is down.

I have Game Pass Ultimate and my PC with RTX 3070 is my Series X. Using wired Gigabit LAN with 520/520 Fiber line because WIFI 6 still sucks.

XCloud is great for demoing games, or just start games to quickly redeem Twitch Prime loot or something.

BTW: PSNow launched 3 years before Game Pass, and still only have old games. Typical Japan. Nintendo..60$ for each cloud game.

At what price?

I refuse to pay full price for a cloud version of anything, at least not until I can verify how well it will run with my setup.

I’d be more on board with a rental-style programme where you can pay £5 a month for access to it. Probably work out more expensive in the long run, but at least I would have the option to cancel it. Whereas a full retail price for a digital offering that Square can remove at any point? No thanks.

@BlueOcean @Ventilator
Series S ?
Nah...
PS4 version is still best option for physical games collector.

The cloud be raining sadness over gamers everywhere.

@Anti-Matter Series S doesn't have a disc drive, so yes.

Xbox One X (2017) and Xbox Series X both have 4K UHD Drives.
Xbox One X costs less than Series S...

@Ventilator
I don't need 4K.
I just need the right games for me.

@gaga64 "I’d be more on board with a rental-style programme where you can pay £5 a month for access to it."

Already exist today. Game Pass. After 3-4 years i still haven't paid more than 5$ a month, because the sub is frequently 50% off in local stores.

Game Pass Cloud works on PC, Xbox, Android TV, IOS, Android Phones, Tablets etc. Can also work on Switch and PS5, but we know Nintendo and Sony refused that.

@Anti-Matter Xbox One X can also be used to boost games at 1080p and 1440p.

@Ventilator Absolutely. Cloud games on Switch is a collection of cons. It's better to get an Xbox One or Series S/X for those games that are not really available on Switch.

I don’t like the kingdom hearts games. Cloud version of anything though is lazy. Might have considered buying them otherwise

@Ventilator
Xbox One weakness:
1. Must connect online to play an Offline game or you cannot play the games at all.
2. Games library too similar as PS4 / PS5 so i choose PlayStation version for easier and cheaper to get the games from my country.
3. Still cannot play DDR Ultramix 1-4 from OG XBOX, DDR UNIVERSE 1-3 from XBOX 360, Kinect XBOX 360 games on XBOX ONE and Series X. Useless machine in my opinion.

Well, those the reasons i will not consider XBOX ONE and Series X/S.

what exactly does this mean, "cloud based?" Does it mean. monthly or yearly subscription, or do you literally need fast internet access to play at all times? if so, how fast? is the game processing being done by remote servers or something? I feel like "cloud based" is a bit of a catch-all at the moment.

Cloud gaming is an insult to people who care about video games. Don’t support it and give away our right to own what we purchase.

@Anti-Matter That's not true, you don't need to be online to play offline games on Xbox.

I completely understand why Kingdom Hearts 3 would need a cloud version, but didn't the other collections run on PS3? Surely the Switch could manage that!

It just seems rushed

These online only cloud games seem to me like they should be ultra cheap, but they're not. I'll probably never buy one unless it's like $5, or some game I can't easily play.

Cloud-based = Not having the game.

The day they shut down the servers you lose everything. No, thank you.

Please don’t support this.

I was once a big fan of the series, but after Kingdom Hearts 2 it started to go downhill and become more incomprehensible (Birth by Sleep was good though). Also Sora started to annoy me more as it felt like he became even more childish in the later games whilst in KH2 there were signs of growing maturity. KH3 remains one of my biggest disappointments in gaming.

I actually was somewhat interested in replaying the older titles on Switch as it’s been so long but not on cloud versions and their glorified rentals.

I get cloud gaming as a rental, or as part of a subscription service like Game Pass, but paying full price for cloud games is like paying £15 for a film that I can only watch when I'm on the Netflix website.

@kepsux Basically, the game is actually running on a sever somewhere and you are remotely controlling the game from your console. Basically imagine your Switch is just a controller and monitor and the actual console is in another town / country / continent that you connect to via the internet.

I don’t think you need to pay for NS Online, but you have to pay for what is basically a pass to access the game. But when they turn the server off, that’s it. Access completely gone.

Oh eff off cloud..

I always wanted to try these because i love Donald Duck and Goofy. Was hoping for a Switch port bc it seemed so likely but...this is not it :/.

HAH! If I have to suffer so do the KH fans.

I've zero interest in Cloud version of anything.

I might have been interested in downloadable Switch versions.

Pretty sure they could get a scaled back version of 3 running on the Switch considering some of the excellent ports we've had.

@Anti-Matter 1. is false you can play any offline game on XBOX without ever connecting to the internet.

Sorry quick edit to the article - "we're sure plenty of fans will have their reservations" should include "and others will throw an absolute hissy fit"

Except 2 of them this are old games, how is possible to be cloud version?

@tameshiyaku where are you purchasing a second hand PS4 for less than €100? They're at a minimum €150 and that's if you're lucky. Generally closer to €180 mark.

You're not buying anything on cloud. The term is renting. Why should we pay the same for cloud games? We don't own anything cloud based like this. Mega LAME.

I was actually thinking of buy eventually (when I have money to throw around lol) to have the whole series handheld, but I don't know anything about cloud. I assume that means that they game can't even be played without internet.

I don't really understand why 1.5 and 2.5 couldn't be ported, but okay.

Ive tried couple of cloud based games demo and nothing ever seems to work more than 30 seconds. Granted im living in 3rd world country but surely it can't be that bad? And whoever thinking renting a game should cost the same amount of money as actually owning the game should be slapped in the head.

I thought this was already an article yesterday no?

I would gladly pay the "Switch Tax™" on a physical or even digital Kingdom Hearts collection or ports, but I'm not getting the cloud version of anything.
Buying a game is buying the license to use the game indefinitely. But buying the cloud version is buying a license to buy a license to use the game until the game is no longer available. No thanks, Square.

I have decent internet. I tested a cloud based demo from the eshop during the day yesterday and it ran like butter. I tested the same game in the evening and it was a glitchy hellscape that resembled a slideshow at times. Unless there's an unexpected optimization of the streaming of the KH games, buyer beware.

@SwitchplayerJohn Well, I don't own a gaming PC, XBOX, or a PlayStation, so... I guess I can just go eff myself then?
Fact is, there's no reason everything up to KH III couldn't be ported to Switch, especially since some of these were on Nintendo consoles already. It's just that Square are too lazy to do it. THAT'S the fact.

Better option for those who don't like cloud based gaming would be to get a second hand ps4 and then buy the collection, no lag and better graphics.

The collection was going for £25 on the PlayStation store a few months ago aswell

But then again any real kingdom hearts fan would of already played them buy now, so people looking to just try it out might not be worth the risk buying another console for

on Cloud, that means u don't really own it, and u need the internet

"Integrum Masterpiece"? Oh man, that's exactly the kind of ridiculous self-important name I would expect from a series filled to the brim with ridiculous self-important storytelling. Yeah, that's Kingdom Hearts in a nutshell. Kudos to whoever came up with that silly name.

@Anti-Matter I think PS3 were the only great Sony console ever made. VITA were great too, but lacked games.

I bought PS4, but collected dust most of the time because most exclusives is too repetitive. Third person action games over and over again. This sadly continued on PS5, and is why i will never buy a PS5.

I don't need to buy Series X either as my PC is way more powerful than PS5 and Series X..
100% of Series X exclusives is also for PC.
Sony releases exclusives on PC. "PS5 console exclusives" isn't PS5 exclusive at all since they are coming to PC same day.

Capcom have recently announced they will shift more focus to PC as it's their main money income.
50% of the sales is on PC. The other 50% is Switch, PS and Xbox combined. Consoles isn't as big as it used to be for Resident Evil, Monster Hunter etc.
Then you have Game Pass Ultimate on PC/Xbox.

Easy to see why PC is the #1 gaming platform + Switch for Nintendo exclusives.

Cloud sucks and I'll be the first to admit it, but it's odd how the term "cloud" is more or less universally hated while "gamepass" is praised for being almost the same concept.

Though I get it, you can opt to download and gamepass offers a much wider selection

@BlueOcean Calling cloud gaming a con on Switch is to say it mildly as the games isn't even 60 fps like they are on Stadia and XCloud.
Take Hitman 3 for example on Switch.
60$ on Series S to play it properly.
60$ on Switch Cloud version which you have no control over, and you don't even own it. As a bonus you get streaming lag and bad framerate.
They could scale down Hitman 3 hard to make it work on Switch, and even then you would get a better experience than cloud version.

60$ price for renting only one game on Switch doesn't make sense at all. It's a SCAM.
I hope this isn't a new trend on Switch.

Nintendo should have allowed Stadia on Switch. At least Hitman 3 would then be more playable from cloud.

1080p/60 streaming is 100% free for everyone on Stadia if you didn't know. You only need to pay for the games like on Switch. 4K/60 streaming costs money, but also includes monthly games at no extra cost.

This is such a disappointing disaster as the trilogy would have sold a bucket load if released physically or as a collectors edition with the amiibo.

all of these, aside from KH3, run on last gen hardware, and are ports of 2 gen-old hardware. Including 3DS and PSP games!

KH3 is the only thing that may be a cloud game, but even then it can run if effort is put into it.

Cloud games will allow devs to be lazy like this. Do not like

Cloud. No, thanks.

@Ventilator
You know what?
I played completely different games.
I don't play like majority users here.
I played mostly casual games on PS4 (games for kids)
This year I will add my PS4 games collection with more casual games (My Universe series, OG Games) and I don't even care with Games Pass since I only play with legit disc, no digital or renting from Game Pass. I don't even care and don't even like Game Pass existence since I am old school style gamer, played the games in disc / cartridge.

@Anti-Matter
I'm old-school too, but physical games is dying and is why i have Game Pass. It saved me 1000's of $ already. Rental is so much cheaper. I still buy games, but there is 100 +/- games yearly i don't need to purchase when i have game Pass.

My first gaming system were Commodore 64 using games on tape cassettes before Nintendo consoles existed, because consoles were dead at that time. Remember the video game crash in 1983?
This is why all games came to home computers instead back then. C64, Dragon 64, Amstrad, Oric, BBC Micro, ZX Spectrum etc.
I have seen everything in gaming for 4 decades on all home computers and all consoles ever made, but also tried most add-ons ever.

Anyways. No local stores stock much new PS4/PS5 or Xbox games here.
Physical games in my country died years ago.
Only some random new Switch physicals is coming to the local stores.
Super Monkey Ball released yesterday is not stocked anywhere as they don't think it will sell physical on even Switch.
Online shops only have 5 copies in stock just for fun, because no one buys physical here.

The only physical that sells here is FIFA.
Those who buy FIFA physically only play FIFA. They don't play any other games at all.
These people don't buy digitally, and is why it's why there is so much FIFA physicals in shops here.

I live in a country where tech ages very fast, and is why you can't buy last gen electronics here.

Even when Switch only got a battery upgrade, the old Switches were removed from stores in whole country same day.
When Switch OLED comes, the current Switch will be removed from stores.

@ryancraddock Question. When you updated the original cloud based KH article yesterday with this:

"Update: A Kingdom Hearts Integrum Masterpiece collection will also let you experience the entire saga on Switch."

did that mean you can buy the 3 collections separately or the new all in 1 oddly named bundle will also let you buy them as a package?

It makes sense to only sell the package but NoA did tweet out "pllay all 3 games" so as usual I'm confused. 🤷‍♂️

As always I find it kind of amusing how many people on here consider a box on their shelf the most important aspect of a game. Usually the same ones that accuse users of other systems of favouring graphics over gameplay!

Do yourselves a favour and let go of the obsession of having a box on your shelf. More and more games get re-released anyway so in all likelihood you’re not ever going to touch those discs and cartridges again anyway as you’ll be wanting to play the newer release.

That is still not convincing because it is a cloud title

The only game that would need to be cloud based to be playable on the Switch is KH3. This is just laziness and nothing more.

@ryancraddock Thanks. I did do some further digging on my own after asking you and finally arrived at the source. Surprised no PS5 version, but I suppose that's coming later.

https://amp.square-enix-games.com/en_US/news/kingdom-hearts-switch?__twitter_impression=true

@Znake they are thinking of the character not the way the games run on other systems like oh cloud version of all the kingdom hearts game booo sora shouldn’t be in in smash for that is just a ridiculous assumption. Plus it’s a totally different game so saying he shouldn’t be in smash because of another game is dumb.

@Ventilator Yeah , cloud gaming on Switch is a scam:

1.Switch is supposed to be a handheld (Lite) or an hybrid (original and OLED model), so you can't connect to the internet always and if you do is probably not the best connection.

2. Switch connects via WiFi unless you buy an Ethernet adapter that Nintendo sell separately or get the OLED model. Lite has no option for Ethernet.

3. The price of these cloud games is the same as a regular game.

4. Nintendo is not known for supporting legacy consoles, let alone online services. It's not a reliable purchase like on PC or Xbox. Nintendo will abandon you without notice as they always do.

@PickledKong That's correct. Playing them in easy mode is no problem but play them in Proud or the battle arenas that have the most chaotic and fastest battles I have ever played and winning depends on frame rate and lack of input lag as much as on your own skills.

Cloud-based doesn't mean it's on Switch, cloud-based means it's on a server somewhere that Switch somehow got access to. No different from if I remote play my PS4 game on my PS Vita, if someone turn off my PS4 at any time or the power went out or my internet shutdown, then I lose access. Long story short these games are not on Switch, Switch only had temporary access to them. Look like Square Enix is trying very hard to convince people that this is a good move, no it's not they knew what they are doing. They are offering a service instead of a product, don't buy into it.

@Audiogore0733 I assume you are a young player since your main argument is that something is Dumb! If you read carefully what I said- my main point is that another character deserved the spot more for multiple of reasons-so I can state them: Doom guy-being far cooler-having wider range of gameplay tools to have very diverse gameplay, the franchise actually is represented on Switch via running on the software natively, and being phenomenal conversions, and furthermore, the franchise leads all the way to the origins of FPS- Doom appeared on a previous Gen than KH. Even Leon Kennedy would be a much cooler pick. Other reasons would be- that without Disney characters- like the Lion King, Genie, Tron, BB, Mermaid, Herc, Sora on its own is just a kid with a lame key looking sword-objectively speaking- coming from someone who loved the first game and grew up with it. I love Sora too, and the main perk is that he brings excellent music, but overall the character is not as cool as some older players wish him to be-there are not only kids playing the game! I am happy if you got what you wished for- I also wanted him a lot some time back-just imagined him a lot better-with side specials summoning different characters for attack-like Duck Hunt. Don’t take it too seriously, I think he is a great character, but as I stated above, in my opinion, other chracters deserved the spot more since they were more iconic for its own genre and Nintendo itself- even Leon Kennedy- imagine Leon Summoning Zombies/ Final would be with Nemesis, and RE4 originated on Nintendo Gamecube with many RE games that have been on Nintendo always since N64! Some characters have far more history and symbolism for N. I would prefer Leon/second Doomguy/third Dante, or some chracters from N64 like Jet Force Gemini that predate Ratchet and Clack- 3chracrers in 1 with a ton of gameplay options. I really care for smash- and feel another character could genuinely bring more interesting addition even gameplay wise to the roster. Anyway, it’s what it is. Enjoy the character and instead of arguing we should deal with this in Smash LOL!

@Specter_of-the_OLED It's basically like playing games on the Switch's internal internet browser.

I'll wait for the price to be a outraged, really. If the whole Integrum Package is marked at 60 bucks it would be far more tempting.

It would be basically paying one fee for a streaming service containing the whole Kingdom Hearts history, that's a lot of entertainment even if the servers are around for what, 5 years in some bad case scenarios.

@BlueOcean Or any browser on a PC. Any single player game that required the internet to functions is not reliable, even worst because it's through the cloud, latency and lags will be present as well since Kingdom Hearts is a very action oriented game series. It's not turn based like the old Final Fantasy games. Had it was turn-based then lags and latency wouldn't matter. At this rate Square Enix is aiming to collect a few bucks from Nintendo's audience without giving them a proper product and Nintendo themselves stupidly doesn't do anything about it as they too are part of the scam also.

Lol it's not even running on the native Switch hardware, just using a Netflix-like streaming server. Man, I was worried that the game would have to utilize the GPU or something.

@Specter_of-the_OLED Exactly, they both are part of this scam. It's not just that they are action-RPGs but playing them in Proud and beating the battle arenas is absolutely frenetic. Steaming those battles over WiFi with the appropriate input lag and frame rate is just not feasible.

I have beaten every single Kingdom Hearts game, unlocked almost everything, including the DS titles and I'd recommend people to get them on Xbox or PS but the DS games are only available on DS. They are not included in the Switch cloud collection either.

@BlueOcean

1.) Yeah. Since it's a cloud game, you need near 100% signal too at all times. Not much less will make the games stutter on top of terrible latency.
You practically need wired LAN to play these games. Most Switch owners probably doesn't even have wired LAN.

2.) Good point with Switch Lite. It's basically useless for optimal cloud gaming.

3.) Pricing is just wrong, because they are rental games. Since when did a game cost 60$ to rent?

4.) In fact only Microsoft have full focus on keeping all consoles for 20 last years alive, because it makes the Series X library a lot bigger.
Sony just bottlenecked the PS3/VITA Stores. You can't purchase games anymore the normal way. Only works if you have money in wallet or pre-paid cards.

I agree that Nintendo can't be trusted looking at their history.
Doesn't help that Switch is 4.5 years old. Buying cloud games this late in it's lifetime is just stupid. They could be removed from server in only 1-2 years.

Did you try Cloud gaming on Switch?
Hitman 3 and Control can be tried for free.
Each of them downloads a small 60.MB streaming app.
"Try before buy".

Looking at the poll here. Scary that as much as 18% is interested in buying these new cloud games.

I will need a bit more information on how this is all going to work and cost before I decide it's worth it or not. I've been interested in getting into the Kingdom Hearts series for awhile and although I would have preferred a physical collection, even if it was just 1 and 2, if the price is right I would consider paying to play these games.

For those of you who need to own a game to enjoy it, I hear you. It doesn't matter as much to me as it used to though. Ownership can also be considered an illusion since you only own it until suddenly you don't. Whether a game gets lost, stolen, broken, or just deteriorates while sitting on your shelf. You may think you own a game you no longer do for years if you never get around to actually trying to play it to only realize it is either gone or dead. To me the most important part of any work of art is to experience it. If there are more options for me to experience it than actually physically owning a copy of it, all the better. Cloud gaming and subscription services may have drawbacks but if it makes it easier for people to experience these games, that's at least one good thing about it.

@Ventilator Right, Sony are reducing their legacy stores as well. No, I haven't tried those cloud trials on Switch, I will.

@BlueOcean Just try the cloud games just for fun just to see how bad they are.

It makes you wonder if Switch games is streamed from a laptop in a office at Nintendo. lol

@Ventilator I can't wait LOL. Now we know why Nintendo had to shut Miiverse down. They needed the extra bandwidth.

@BlueOcean Lol. Yeah.

If you didn't know, Tegra X1 inside Switch is capable of streaming 60 FPS, but i guess Nintendo missed that memo. lol
Tegra X1 originally supports 4K/60 streaming for games.

@Ventilator I edited my last comment to add a sentence 😁. After knowing that Nintendo used internet roms for their own Virtual Console (as reported by many websites) I believe anything 😂.

@PickledKong Just imagine playing in Critical on Switch's Cloud at 30fps LOL.

@PickledKong Could have worked on Stadia and XCloud as they are superior to Cloud on Switch.

Stadia and XCloud streams 60 FPS unlike Switch cloud.

Basically you pay way more for less on Switch Cloud.

@BlueOcean

Nintendo are hypocrits.
They are downloading all their own games from these illegel sites, and then they get shutted down by Nintendo for copyright reasons.

Nintendo in a nutshell. haha

@Ventilator Absolutely, Nintendo is hypocritical.

I haven't tried Stadia but Xbox Cloud is pretty solid although I prefer to download the Game Pass games.

@BlueOcean I prefer to play the games natively too, but i use Cloud to demo new games among other things.

Stadia 1080p/60 is 100% free.
Games like Destiny 2, Super Bomberman Online and more is 100% free too.
Costs nothing to try Stadia.

Destiny 2 is the benchmark game on Stadia and what they also use in ads.
XCloud version of Destiny 2 is near unplayable as the latency is terrible.
There is games that runs "perfect" on XCloud too. Forza Horizon 4, Rainbow Six Siege and Marvel's Avengers among others.

They decided to put no effort at all to bring these games to the system, so I decided not to give them any money for them. Simple.

@blockfight if you look up private sellers for base ps4s it can get pretty dirt cheap. Of course it's gonna cost more, but at least you own something with resell value unlike a cloud game where they can just decide to remove the servers.

I really do hope they'll make most of these at least actual downloads or something, I'm looking up all these stories about cloud gaming again and it's just bs. Make it a subscription for like...$10 a month or something, I don't know.

I was excited for a split-second but, nope...not touching, I don't trust cloud gaming at all. Would've been nice actually having most of these games on the Switch, though.

Don’t care since it’s Cloud lmao. Such a wasted opportunity for 1.5/2.5 that was on PS3 level hardware.

@tameshiyaku I can understand that. Don't think I'll be too worried about playing these games in 10 years time so I'm not too worried about owning physical. I just want to play the games.

I’d rather they just increase the price, rather than using a cloud service.
1.5 $69.99
2.5 $69.99
2.8 + 3 $69.99
Bundle $149.99

Alternatively, you can play them on the epic gamestore, on a labtop.
Which is where I’ll buy them, I wanted to buy them on the switch, also.
The only games that are worth playing from the cloud on the Switch, are also dependent on multiplayer.
Square Enix needs to stop selling their games for less money. I quit both Sony & Xbox, as I can’t respect great games getting discounted within a year or two of their release. It damages both the developer & consumer perspective of what people are willing to pay for the service of suppling games of quality.

You won't own anything you'll be renting these games

@Znake well I have played doom and kingdom hearts but your statement says doom guy deserves to be in smash more than Sora well the character made it in not because he deserved to be because the fans and because Sakurai thought he would be a good character if neither of those I don’t think he woulda made it in to smash, but doom guy is very cool they did think about putting him in not because he deserved but fans also wanted him in but they made him a Mii fighter costume, but more people had Sora higher voted. Speaking of Sora is just a kid with a Keyblade and would be nothing without the Disney character, there is a story without all the disney stuff. I think alot of other characters deserved to be in smash but they weren’t.

Palying KH3 now on Xbox Series S. It has some modifiers to make it easier this time around. Could also make it harder but that's not for me.

@Bizzyb
"gamepass" at least on Xbox allows you to play the games natively iirc kind of like NSOs legacy content, only there is also a "buy and keep" option.

@Marioracer dont be mistaken. We already played this several times over the last 20 years in different consoles. Having them on the go would have been nice but the ones that will suffer from this decision are Square Enix (sales-wise). We KH fans got Sora for Smash. Nothing really lost on our end

You're reporting it as though the games are coming to Switch, but if I can't play them on my handheld console whilst out and about, then the games aren't exactly on the Switch.

@BlueOcean

Kindgom Hearts games is all over Epic store on PC as exclusives now.
They ported all of them to PC for a small online shop, and not Steam which means poor sales on PC.

It now makes less sense than ever why Switch didn't get ports because of the costs.

Was a cloud version really needed? Maybe for 3 but they could have easily ported the older ones over. Ill skip this and just get the collection on PC. Plus anything after 2 just is bad IMO

@Ventilator Switch is interesting. It's Nintendo's second console from last generation with the same graphical capabilities than the consoles from two generations ago. It's successful but limited technically so they can make ports for it but downgrading the resolution, frame rate and effects. Some don't even try and use legacy editions or cloud versions.

More like zero in one and a crappy cloud version. It's like they are trying to promote stadia. Kill the cloud before they believe it to be a good idea

@BlueOcean Thats true, but remember some of these Kingdom games is PS2 games and Switch have more power than PS3.
Since heavyweight games like Doom Eternal, Dying Light and Wreckfest can run natively on Switch, there isn't that many games that can't be ported besides games similar to these below.
Games like Far Cry 6, Watch Dogs Legion and AC Valhalla is too much for Switch.
Would probably look like ARK Survival on Switch if they ported them. hehe
I can't believe they even ported ARK to Switch as it isn't even a optimized game on PC.

@Ventilator Ark was something... worth seeing on Switch LOL.

I was never big on Kingdomhearts, but tried it out back on ps2 because my best friend loved them. If there was a physical edition I’d maybe get it, but these games don’t even look that great for all cloud versions. I can play Witcher 3 with a cartridge no download needed but I have stream these older games ?

Although I'm not a fan of having to have a paid subscription to play a game I paid for (in this case, an internet subscription), I could probably warm up to cloud gaming if not for network instability, input lag, and the high probability that at some point I'll never have access to the game again.