Both 2D LoZ and Necrodancer are great games, and the mix is perfectly enjoyable, but i don't think the strengths of each of them necesarily play to each other's favor.
Necrodancer worked well because of it's fast pace. The time limit naturally encouraged you to keep a steady beat, the extra gold was pivotal due to it's rouguelite nature, and exploring carried a risk/reward because of the time limit.
Here, your only real incentive to keep the beat is an extra diamond, and you'll soon be swimming in the damn things, rupees are similarly worthless because there are very few shops and you can't take two steps without stepping on a silver rupee.
Death also carries very little consequence, and hearts drop so much you'll have a hard time actually biting the dust.
It's clear the game made a lot of changes to accommodate de LoZ style, but IMO those concessions really hurt the Necro dancer experience. Without the rapidly escalating difficulty and high stakes, a lot of the excitement is gone.
As a LoZ game, well, the puzzles are very simplistic and dungeons aren't particularly interesting, i feel like it really should have been more CotN than LoZ.
It's a good and fun game, i just feel it could have been more. The music kicks ass tough.
@Galarian_Lassie Don't get me wrong, it's extremely low brow and awfuly prone to shock value and stuff like Animaniacs run laps around it. But there is a special kind of fondness reserved for toons that not only are still fun as you get older, but you actually learn to apreciate them more.
Sides, you can't really expect me not to have a certain affinity for the toon that taught me how to flip the bird can you?
It's crown jewel is the animation tough, it's absolutely amazing. The expressions, the movements...it's just amazing.
I agree on both She-ra remake and Steven ubermench. Modern animation has this awful trend of taking itself too seriously. Everyone wants to be like the last airbender, but no one seems to understand why that show was so good in the first place.
Only modern cartoons i have actually taken a shine to are Gravity falls and Star vs. and that's mostly because the humor consistently landed with me.
@Wavey84 Ren & Stimpy is the kind of brilliance that can only be obtained by having a clearly unstable content creator actively having a battle of wills with the censor board to have as much of it's jaded humor as possible. Both forces conter balance each other and the result is glorious.
Adult party was a stupid idea from the get go, without the limitations imposed by it's status as entertainment for kids, it just became another gross out, shock inducing "adult toon" in the bin. less looney toons and more Mr. Pickle.
The only time history allowed for another such perfect storm was Invader Zim, god, that show is wonderful.
I watched some 80's cheese fests trough the magic of old VHS, mainly TMNT, Thundercats and Captain N. And while they are perfectly enjoyable for a kid, they definetely lost all entertainment value as i grew older. It is evident those cartoons were made for the singular purpose of selling toys.
They do have a certain charm, but i couldn't possibly stomach watching them without some drinks and friends.
@NotoriousWhiz Do lower res assets and textures really make such a huge difference tough? maybe it's a combination of lower res assets and actual compression? those are still a lot of GB's tough...
I dunno, i know absolutely nothing of these matters, but there's just something fishy about storage this gen. Even old games take an obscene amount of storage these days.
RE4 is like 13 gb's, that is a game that was on the freaking PS2, you can't tell me there is no foul play.
@graysoncharles Screw them then, they are the reason my PS4 can't have more than 6 games installed, i swear to god it's the exact same thing as my Switch.
At this point i am surprised Microsoft hasn't made a remake of the original Banjo Kazooie in the wake of the nostalgia fever caused by the Crash bandicoot remakes.
Then again, i look at Conker Live and reloaded and wonder if i should be grateful.
@Silly_G Snake had the Twin snakes which was a waaaay higher profile release than Persona Q2, not to mention he did, indeed, have history with Nintendo despite his main association with the Play station brand. Remember there were Metal gear games on NES.
Cloud is the only character that was a legit "Screw you" to the idea of newcomers needing to have any sort of presence on Nintendo systems. I mantain he has been the worse adition in smash, to date.
Seiken densetsu 3 is one of my favorite games of all time, it's exactly what a sequel should be, and it's superior to legend of mana in every conceivable way.
The price is rather high yes, but for me it's worth every single penny just to be free from the roms.
I already pre-ordered the physical release, and i worry i might not hold out and just buy the digtal version just to avoid waiting. I really can't help myself, the game brings me joy.
A bit stiff, Imo but still endearing in that wholesome kind of way. I just hope he doesn't try too hard to become a living meme like Reggie, that can only end in disaster.
All around, not as funny as purple Pikmin, and not as endearing as Iwata, but those are big shoes to fill.
I am still not interested, but after the news that the cartridge is going to contain the full game + both expansions, I really hope it sells to the heavens just to set a new standard for Switch ports.
Would have pre-ordered these on the sly if I wasn't saving my pennies for the imminent Senkei densetsu 3 localization, god damn, I can't wait for it.
Squeenix finally realizing they are sitting on a pile of JRPG gold. Here's hoping we get more classics released, I would particularly like a port of FF tactics, Tactics ogre and Valkyrie profile.
@personauser93 Not that I know of, but AC being R&D1 I would be amazed if anything about it leaked.
There was also Spoilers!Spoilers!Spoilers! A supposed leak of Rare replay on Switch, I am not sure about how legitimate it is, but with Microsoft endorsing the Nintendo presentation and several high profile leakers saying Spoilers for smash! that they are "99%" sure banjo is going to be in smash, I think it's a reasonable bet.
@Dm9982 It's just baffling, they already have functional versions of the game in PS4 and Switch, yet they chose to make a custom build for One which is the least JRPG friendly system in the market.
@Dm9982 Devolver was the highlight of the event for me, for a third time in a row.
Tales of Arise and the fromsoftware R.R Martin collusion would have been pretty exciting for me if leakers hadn't killed the surprise. PSO 2 would have also made me cry if it wasn't on the only console I don't own.
Cheers to Doom Eternal tough, prolly my most anticipated game this year.
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Re: Review: Cadence of Hyrule: Crypt of the NecroDancer Featuring The Legend of Zelda - A Beat-Based Wonder
I feel like it wasn't the best mix.
Both 2D LoZ and Necrodancer are great games, and the mix is perfectly enjoyable, but i don't think the strengths of each of them necesarily play to each other's favor.
Necrodancer worked well because of it's fast pace. The time limit naturally encouraged you to keep a steady beat, the extra gold was pivotal due to it's rouguelite nature, and exploring carried a risk/reward because of the time limit.
Here, your only real incentive to keep the beat is an extra diamond, and you'll soon be swimming in the damn things, rupees are similarly worthless because there are very few shops and you can't take two steps without stepping on a silver rupee.
Death also carries very little consequence, and hearts drop so much you'll have a hard time actually biting the dust.
It's clear the game made a lot of changes to accommodate de LoZ style, but IMO those concessions really hurt the Necro dancer experience. Without the rapidly escalating difficulty and high stakes, a lot of the excitement is gone.
As a LoZ game, well, the puzzles are very simplistic and dungeons aren't particularly interesting, i feel like it really should have been more CotN than LoZ.
It's a good and fun game, i just feel it could have been more. The music kicks ass tough.
Re: Random: God Of War Artist Shows Us How The Battletoads Reboot Should Have Looked
@Galarian_Lassie Don't get me wrong, it's extremely low brow and awfuly prone to shock value and stuff like Animaniacs run laps around it. But there is a special kind of fondness reserved for toons that not only are still fun as you get older, but you actually learn to apreciate them more.
Sides, you can't really expect me not to have a certain affinity for the toon that taught me how to flip the bird can you?
It's crown jewel is the animation tough, it's absolutely amazing. The expressions, the movements...it's just amazing.
I agree on both She-ra remake and Steven ubermench. Modern animation has this awful trend of taking itself too seriously. Everyone wants to be like the last airbender, but no one seems to understand why that show was so good in the first place.
Only modern cartoons i have actually taken a shine to are Gravity falls and Star vs. and that's mostly because the humor consistently landed with me.
Re: Random: God Of War Artist Shows Us How The Battletoads Reboot Should Have Looked
@Wavey84 Ren & Stimpy is the kind of brilliance that can only be obtained by having a clearly unstable content creator actively having a battle of wills with the censor board to have as much of it's jaded humor as possible. Both forces conter balance each other and the result is glorious.
Adult party was a stupid idea from the get go, without the limitations imposed by it's status as entertainment for kids, it just became another gross out, shock inducing "adult toon" in the bin. less looney toons and more Mr. Pickle.
The only time history allowed for another such perfect storm was Invader Zim, god, that show is wonderful.
I watched some 80's cheese fests trough the magic of old VHS, mainly TMNT, Thundercats and Captain N. And while they are perfectly enjoyable for a kid, they definetely lost all entertainment value as i grew older. It is evident those cartoons were made for the singular purpose of selling toys.
They do have a certain charm, but i couldn't possibly stomach watching them without some drinks and friends.
Re: Video: Here's How The Witcher 3 On Switch Compares To The PS4 Version
@NotoriousWhiz Do lower res assets and textures really make such a huge difference tough? maybe it's a combination of lower res assets and actual compression? those are still a lot of GB's tough...
I dunno, i know absolutely nothing of these matters, but there's just something fishy about storage this gen. Even old games take an obscene amount of storage these days.
RE4 is like 13 gb's, that is a game that was on the freaking PS2, you can't tell me there is no foul play.
@graysoncharles Screw them then, they are the reason my PS4 can't have more than 6 games installed, i swear to god it's the exact same thing as my Switch.
Re: Random: God Of War Artist Shows Us How The Battletoads Reboot Should Have Looked
@Galarian_Lassie
-low quality trash
-Ren and Stimpy
So this is what they mean by "triggered"
Re: Random: God Of War Artist Shows Us How The Battletoads Reboot Should Have Looked
The game looks like something you would find on newgrounds and i hate it.
But i am not sure this alternative is any better.
Re: Video: Here's How The Witcher 3 On Switch Compares To The PS4 Version
How? just how
The game is like 60 gb's in my PS4 without the expansions, how is this even possible?
Do they just don't bother compressing for PC/PS4/Xone?
Re: Banjo-Kazooie Switch Listing Appears On Amazon Germany, But We Wouldn't Count On It
At this point i am surprised Microsoft hasn't made a remake of the original Banjo Kazooie in the wake of the nostalgia fever caused by the Crash bandicoot remakes.
Then again, i look at Conker Live and reloaded and wonder if i should be grateful.
Re: Banjo-Kazooie Switch Listing Appears On Amazon Germany, But We Wouldn't Count On It
@Silly_G Snake had the Twin snakes which was a waaaay higher profile release than Persona Q2, not to mention he did, indeed, have history with Nintendo despite his main association with the Play station brand. Remember there were Metal gear games on NES.
Cloud is the only character that was a legit "Screw you" to the idea of newcomers needing to have any sort of presence on Nintendo systems. I mantain he has been the worse adition in smash, to date.
Re: Video: Cadence Of Hyrule Guitarist And Grant Kirkhope Combine For Epic Banjo-Kazooie Collab
@PikPi Not that i know of, but i wouldn't expect Castlevania levels of tracks.
As long as we get a remix of the final battle against gruntilda and maybe Mr. Patch, i'll be happy.
Re: Review: Collection of Mana - Expensive, But Ultimately Worth Every Penny
Seiken densetsu 3 is one of my favorite games of all time, it's exactly what a sequel should be, and it's superior to legend of mana in every conceivable way.
The price is rather high yes, but for me it's worth every single penny just to be free from the roms.
I already pre-ordered the physical release, and i worry i might not hold out and just buy the digtal version just to avoid waiting. I really can't help myself, the game brings me joy.
Also, pick Riesz!
Re: Phantasy Star Online 2 "Will End Up On All Platforms" Eventually
@Spudtendo probably because Sega has an awful track record of hollow promises when it comes to Phantasy Star.
Re: Phantasy Star Online 2 "Will End Up On All Platforms" Eventually
@Agramonte I don't think it can be that hard, they already have functional versions for both PS4 and Switch.
If the translation is already done just copy paste that s**t!
Re: Phantasy Star Online 2 "Will End Up On All Platforms" Eventually
This is great news! I'll play it on PC until then, hopefully I will be able to carry my progress.
Then again, I can just make another character.
Re: Eiji Aonuma On Returning To The Hyrule Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild
@Xelha There is such a thing as objectively bad design.
Just because someone really likes Superman 64 it doesn't mean it is even comparatively better than Ocarina of Time.
I am not saying people can't enjoy or prefer pretty much anything, but there are objectively bad games, and objectively good ones as well.
Mind you, this is completely unrelated to the BotW discussion you were having, that little sentence just really bothered me.
There is a limit to subjectivity.
Re: Square Enix Also Exploring The Idea Of Its Own Subscription Or Streaming Service
Square and short sighted trend chasing, name a more iconic duo.
Re: Eiji Aonuma On Returning To The Hyrule Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild
@Xelha "There is no such thing as objectivity in these things."
Really pushing the limits of subjectivity buddy.
Re: Eiji Aonuma On Returning To The Hyrule Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild
@Spudtendo "Perfect? No, but no game is."
Excuse you, but Portal exists.
Re: Indie Developer Shares "Bad News" About Publishing On Switch, After Pitching His Game To Nintendo
@ReaderRagfish To get some perspective, in 2018 Steam had more games submitted than 10 years of the platform combined.
Re: Nintendo's Bill Trinen Talks About Indie Collaborations, Microsoft Partnership And More
@Daruncic I dunno, Wargroove was fun and all, but it ain't Advance wars.
They should lend F-zero to the fast racing neo guys though.
Re: This Dragon Quest Hori Slime Controller For Switch Is Hella Cute
@60frames-please That's interesting, I still have my PS2 slime controller and it is as uncomfortable as it looks.
Re: Random: Bowser Nailed His First Appearance As Nintendo Of America's President
A bit stiff, Imo but still endearing in that wholesome kind of way. I just hope he doesn't try too hard to become a living meme like Reggie, that can only end in disaster.
All around, not as funny as purple Pikmin, and not as endearing as Iwata, but those are big shoes to fill.
I think he did fine.
Re: Original Banjo-Kazooie Team "Pleased" About Duo's Return, But Unsure A New Game "Would Sell"
I don't think it's a question of "if it would sell" and more about if it can be any good at all.
Re: Some History About Saber Interactive, The Developer Porting The Witcher 3 To Nintendo Switch
I am still not interested, but after the news that the cartridge is going to contain the full game + both expansions, I really hope it sells to the heavens just to set a new standard for Switch ports.
Hear that Crapcom!?
Re: Dragon Quest XI S: Definitive Edition Gallops Onto Nintendo Switch This September
@Zidentia Christ, man, don't show me that.
I really can't afford to waste any more cash on imports, my gf is gonna murder me.
Then again...it might be worth it.
Re: A Full Sequel To The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild Is Now In Development
Nintendo was the saving grace of this E3.
Tons of good stuff, barely any talk and more game play than trailers.
Re: Cris Tales Is An "Indie Love Letter To Classic JRPGs", And It's Coming To Switch
@ricardosteve way to stretch the meaning of offended.
Re: Dragon Quest's 'The Hero' Revealed As The Next Smash Bros. Ultimate DLC Character
Leaked alongside Banjo ages ago, yet I am still hyped
Re: Cris Tales Is An "Indie Love Letter To Classic JRPGs", And It's Coming To Switch
@ricardosteve That is literally how it was described, dropped names like Chrono trigger, FF VI and Bravely default.
Way to raise a stink for something so trivial and harmless.
Re: Cris Tales Is An "Indie Love Letter To Classic JRPGs", And It's Coming To Switch
Looks stunning! Buying at launch.
Re: Today's Nintendo Direct Will Feature Pokémon Sword & Shield News
Also known as "Bathroom break" for me.
Re: Romancing SaGa 3 and SaGa Scarlet Grace: Ambitions Are Being Localised
Would have pre-ordered these on the sly if I wasn't saving my pennies for the imminent Senkei densetsu 3 localization, god damn, I can't wait for it.
Squeenix finally realizing they are sitting on a pile of JRPG gold. Here's hoping we get more classics released, I would particularly like a port of FF tactics, Tactics ogre and Valkyrie profile.
Re: Pricing For Zelda Spin-Off Cadence Of Hyrule Is Revealed
Have we gotten any confirmation that Danny Baranowsky is doing the tracks? Cause getting Zelda remixes by DB alone is worth that price tag.
Also for the boss name puns.
Re: This Fall, The Luminary Rides Again In Dragon Quest XI S: Definitive Edition
Really looking forward to this, but one has to wonder what was even the point of showing it in the E3 presentation if they didn't have a release date.
They also included some pretty heavy spoilers in the trailer, geez.
Re: This Fall, The Luminary Rides Again In Dragon Quest XI S: Definitive Edition
@Heavyarms55 some jokes and references will go over your head, but this entry is as good a starting point as any.
Re: This Fall, The Luminary Rides Again In Dragon Quest XI S: Definitive Edition
@The-Chosen-one Yeah, it's the of the 3DS and PS4 version.
Re: Final Fantasy VIII Remastered Is Coming To Nintendo Switch This Year
@JR150 probably never and that is possibly for the best.
No, I still can't get over the absolutely horrible ports of IV and VI to Steam.
I don't think there is a single company out there that has less respect for it's own legacy than Squeenix.
Re: Final Fantasy VIII Remastered Is Coming To Nintendo Switch This Year
Meanwhile FF VI is still ignored and left to rot.
I hate you with a passion Squeenix.
Re: Feature: Looking Back On Nintendo’s E3 2018
@personauser93 Not that I know of, but AC being R&D1 I would be amazed if anything about it leaked.
There was also Spoilers! Spoilers! Spoilers! A supposed leak of Rare replay on Switch, I am not sure about how legitimate it is, but with Microsoft endorsing the Nintendo presentation and several high profile leakers saying Spoilers for smash! that they are "99%" sure banjo is going to be in smash, I think it's a reasonable bet.
Re: Open-World Action Adventure Gods & Monsters Arrives On Switch Next February
@Dm9982 It's just baffling, they already have functional versions of the game in PS4 and Switch, yet they chose to make a custom build for One which is the least JRPG friendly system in the market.
It's like half life 3 releasing only on consoles.
Re: Jake, Finn And Princess Bubblegum From Adventure Time Come To Brawlhalla
Star Butterfly or don't waste my time.
Re: DOOM Eternal Raises Hell On Switch This November, But It Doesn't Look Like We're Getting The Collector's Edition
@Wexter you sure tough? It's Bethesda they sell physical downgrades member the whole canvas bag thing.
I wouldn't be surprised if the helmet ended up being a poorly painted bucket.
Re: Open-World Action Adventure Gods & Monsters Arrives On Switch Next February
@Dm9982 Devolver was the highlight of the event for me, for a third time in a row.
Tales of Arise and the fromsoftware R.R Martin collusion would have been pretty exciting for me if leakers hadn't killed the surprise. PSO 2 would have also made me cry if it wasn't on the only console I don't own.
Cheers to Doom Eternal tough, prolly my most anticipated game this year.
Re: Feature: Looking Back On Nintendo’s E3 2018
I am of the opinion that Nintendo has had some pretty weak E3 presentations for about 4 years.
The Switch presentation on the other hand, was pretty fantastic across the board.
Re: Feature: Looking Back On Nintendo’s E3 2018
@JR150 spoilers for possible leaks
Actually, a leaker recently did a huge post that had tons of info on the Microsoft presentation, and it had switch stuff in it.
If true, we are getting a new Wario Ware and a new 2D Metroid, as well as the Mana collection with a localized senkei densetsu 3.
Re: Open-World Action Adventure Gods & Monsters Arrives On Switch Next February
@Agramonte *"meh...just like the entire E3"
Ftfy
Re: Open-World Action Adventure Gods & Monsters Arrives On Switch Next February
"Move aside Kid Icarus"
4 words in and I am already triggered.
Re: Video: 4chan And Its Totally Real E3 2019 Leaks
@Matthew010 Some of the leaks have super fun threads, it's basically just an excuse to .
Re: Guide: E3 2019 Press Conference Schedule: Nintendo, Ubisoft And Square Enix
I have some hopes for Squeenix, but I am not holding my breath.
FF VII remake will be there, but I hardly care because Nomura is involved, and possibly the Avengers game, which I also don't care for.
My hopes are with Dragon Quest XI, Babylon's Fall and a completely hypothetical Bravely third.
Re: Random: PETA Makes Woolly Statement About Sheep Pokémon Wooloo, Backlash Ensues
Thank you Peta, very cool.
Here, you can kill my pets as a reward.