You kids don't know the facts. Melee can and should be considered a sport. Chess is considered a sport, and Melee is plenty more physically demanding than chess. Also, this athlete visa that Leffen is trying to obtain - professional league of legends players are able to receive this with no problems whatsoever.
I honestly don't see why people think that old games might be a part of this. We have to remember that Nintendo is having the NWC 2015 to help promote their games; they are a company after all. Having retro games in the tournament will not improve any sales and would hurt Nintendo in the long-run. Nintendo is taking this opportunity to advertise their newest games and build the hype. I'm guessing it'll have games like Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon, maybe Smash (this is a 'maybe' because they already had a Smash event last year).
As far as the format goes, I expect the May 30th qualification round games to be fairly quick and simple. They'll probably go points based as this would be the easiest way to eliminate players quickly.
The final tournament at E3 should be much bigger with a more head-to-head focus, such as a large Mario Kart race/8-player smash/Splatoon battle to eliminate players. It'd also be crazy if the final round introduced a brand new game like The Wizard haha.
1. If Melee brings in little money, then Smash4 brings in no money. Melee is a better competitive game and will always have more attendants than Smash4. Zero is a Smash4 pro, not a Melee pro. That's why he doesn't earn too much. On the other hand, Melee players like Mango and Armada earn a lot more. Mango earns enough just off his stream haha.
2. Nintendo will never fully support Melee as it would not benefit the company in any way. They want to promote Smash4. Until Nintendo makes Melee HD, the Melee competitive scene will never see any big institutional support.
3. Don't count out smash just yet Nintendolife. In recent years, the scene (Melee) has really taken off. Almost all top players are now sponsored by large esport teams including Cloud9, Liquid, and TSM to name a few. Every big tournament crashes the previous entry record and tallies in tons of stream viewership with Apex 2015 at a 110,000 high. Melee has been kicking for 14 years and its only getting bigger. If that's not enough of an indactor, I don't know what is.
@SCAR392 Have you never played a Smash game before? Do you realize how much more movement is involved in Smash than in games like Street Fighter and MK? In Smash, the player is constantly moving towards and away from their opponent to properly space attacks. I hear they often use the platforms to get around their opponents as well.... LOL. WTF kind of Smash games are you playing? Or should I say, how the heck do you play Smash? By standing in one spot most of the fight?
P.S. -Wavedashing is incorporated into gameplay as an additional movement option. It's simply transferring your air dodge momentum diagonally into the ground to slide in a neutral position for a short distance. It's not a glitch as most people call it, it's just a creative use of Melee's physics. And for those out there who claim its an exploit, you've obviously never tried it. Just because you can wavedash doesn't mean you'll automatically start winning. Like I said, wavedashing is a form of movement and it's all about how you use it that counts. Also, the creators meant to put L-Canceling in Melee. And for @SCAR392, if Wavedashing was in Street Fighter and MK, it wouldn't change anything as those games aren't heavily focused on your movement around the stage as Smash is.
Smash Wii U is a really fun game, but I chose Melee. What Melee has over Smash 4 is that it can be played best casually and competitively. It's such a fun party game and easily accessible to anyone, but at the same time it's the best competitive game with a bunch of advanced techniques or as most people carelessly say 'exploits' involved. Don't get me wrong, Smash Wii U can be played competitively as well, but it's boring in that respect compared to it's older brother Melee. If I was just looking at the party/fun side of things, Smash 4 would win, but with both categories I'd say Melee wins overall.
I'm still waiting for Banjo-Threeie. I'd like Nintendo to pick up a couple of great IPs like Mega Man from Capcom, or Rare's share of IPs; but in all honesty, Nintendo can't even support their own IPs. Where's F-Zero? Where's Earthbound? Where's Metroid? At least we know Star Fox is coming.
P.S. I know the creator of Earthbound said he doesn't want to make a new one, but there's simply too many fans who want one.
If you don't care to learn this technique, then you obviously don't want to win. Sometimes you have to learn a skill or 2 if you want to see results. You can't always rely on getting all the right items at all the right times to win a race.
@absuplendous I was trying to convey that it was good that Wave Dashing was left in Melee. It became a key technique that every competitive Melee player uses today. Of course it was removed from Brawl, but Brawl has it's own problems (tripping). Plus, Melee is much more popular than Brawl.
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Re: Super Smash Bros. Fans Petition the White House To Secure Visa Rights for eSports Competitors
You kids don't know the facts. Melee can and should be considered a sport. Chess is considered a sport, and Melee is plenty more physically demanding than chess. Also, this athlete visa that Leffen is trying to obtain - professional league of legends players are able to receive this with no problems whatsoever.
Re: Nintendo Hardware Sales Climb in Japan Despite Limited New Releases
i need that Haikyuu game
Re: Video: METAGAME Is A Movie About The Wild World Of Competitive Smash Bros. Players
Watching the Smash Bros documentary makes you care about these players' life stories. The competitive scene makes Melee a completely different game.
Re: Rumour: Super Smash Bros. Planned as NX Launch Title, Bandai Namco Working on "Several" Games
Melee HD confirmed
Re: Detective Pikachu Trailer is Revealed, Arrives as a Download in Japan on 3rd February
Pikachu is definitely looking up a girl's skirt at 0:46.
Re: ESPN Plans On Broadcasting Super Smash Bros. Events
Yo Genesis 3 was sick last night. The most hype Melee I've seen in a while.
Re: Nintendo Confirms Support for Upcoming Competitive Smash Bros. Event, Genesis 3
Also, lots of Splatoon ads
Re: Nintendo Confirms Support for Upcoming Competitive Smash Bros. Event, Genesis 3
@2xDair it confirms that Nintendo won't shut the event down like they tried with EVO
Re: Feature: What We Expect From the Super Smash Bros. Final Video Presentation
Melee HD plz. Have it as an add-on to Smash4 and the WiiU would sell a lot
Re: Rumour: Data Miners Leak Some of the Information From Tomorrow's Nintendo Direct
I hope Cloud doesn't take up TOO much of the direct. Also, I have a feeling he'll be released tomorrow...
Re: Bill Trinen Will Compete at Evo 2015 as a Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Competitor
Bill actually seems like he wants to do real well. He's even looking around for smashfests to get some practice in before the big tourney.
Re: Smash Fighters Settling it at Evo in Big Numbers
It's funny because next year Melee will be the most popular Smash game once again. When Brawl came out, it was bigger than Melee for a bit.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Nintendo's E3 Digital Event?
Maybe they'll unveil new games later on in the week? rip wii u hype train, 2013-2015
Re: This Kickstarter Project About Competitive Pokémon Players Wants To Be The Very Best
Here's what you need to know. If you liked the Smash Documentary, you will like this.
Re: Exclusive: Nintendo PowerFest Winner Mike "Qik" Iarossi Will Compete In The Nintendo World Championships At E3 2015
I honestly don't see why people think that old games might be a part of this. We have to remember that Nintendo is having the NWC 2015 to help promote their games; they are a company after all. Having retro games in the tournament will not improve any sales and would hurt Nintendo in the long-run. Nintendo is taking this opportunity to advertise their newest games and build the hype. I'm guessing it'll have games like Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon, maybe Smash (this is a 'maybe' because they already had a Smash event last year).
As far as the format goes, I expect the May 30th qualification round games to be fairly quick and simple. They'll probably go points based as this would be the easiest way to eliminate players quickly.
The final tournament at E3 should be much bigger with a more head-to-head focus, such as a large Mario Kart race/8-player smash/Splatoon battle to eliminate players. It'd also be crazy if the final round introduced a brand new game like The Wizard haha.
Re: Exclusive: Nintendo PowerFest Winner Mike "Qik" Iarossi Will Compete In The Nintendo World Championships At E3 2015
Mew2King and Armada left Empire Arcadia awhile ago...
Re: Feature: The Poor Career Choice of Super Smash Bros. Professionals
1. If Melee brings in little money, then Smash4 brings in no money. Melee is a better competitive game and will always have more attendants than Smash4. Zero is a Smash4 pro, not a Melee pro. That's why he doesn't earn too much. On the other hand, Melee players like Mango and Armada earn a lot more. Mango earns enough just off his stream haha.
2. Nintendo will never fully support Melee as it would not benefit the company in any way. They want to promote Smash4. Until Nintendo makes Melee HD, the Melee competitive scene will never see any big institutional support.
3. Don't count out smash just yet Nintendolife. In recent years, the scene (Melee) has really taken off. Almost all top players are now sponsored by large esport teams including Cloud9, Liquid, and TSM to name a few. Every big tournament crashes the previous entry record and tallies in tons of stream viewership with Apex 2015 at a 110,000 high. Melee has been kicking for 14 years and its only getting bigger. If that's not enough of an indactor, I don't know what is.
Re: Yooka-Laylee Sets a New Stretch Goal to Smash, This Time for a Fully Orchestrated Soundtrack
I can't be the only one that clicked on this thinking the new stretch goal was to add Yooka-Laylee to Smash.
Re: Yooka-Laylee Double-Jumps Through Final Kickstarter Stretch Goal In Less Than 24 Hours
The next stretch goal should be to change the characters to Banjo-Kazooie haha
Re: Poll: Which is the Best Pokémon Game?
Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness
Re: Poll: Which is the Best Super Smash Bros. Game?
@SCAR392 I'm just saying there isn't enough movement in Street Fighter or MK that wavedashing would actually be useful.
Re: Poll: Which is the Best Super Smash Bros. Game?
@SCAR392 Have you never played a Smash game before? Do you realize how much more movement is involved in Smash than in games like Street Fighter and MK? In Smash, the player is constantly moving towards and away from their opponent to properly space attacks. I hear they often use the platforms to get around their opponents as well.... LOL. WTF kind of Smash games are you playing? Or should I say, how the heck do you play Smash? By standing in one spot most of the fight?
Re: Poll: Which is the Best Super Smash Bros. Game?
P.S. -Wavedashing is incorporated into gameplay as an additional movement option. It's simply transferring your air dodge momentum diagonally into the ground to slide in a neutral position for a short distance. It's not a glitch as most people call it, it's just a creative use of Melee's physics. And for those out there who claim its an exploit, you've obviously never tried it. Just because you can wavedash doesn't mean you'll automatically start winning. Like I said, wavedashing is a form of movement and it's all about how you use it that counts. Also, the creators meant to put L-Canceling in Melee. And for @SCAR392, if Wavedashing was in Street Fighter and MK, it wouldn't change anything as those games aren't heavily focused on your movement around the stage as Smash is.
Re: Poll: Which is the Best Super Smash Bros. Game?
Smash Wii U is a really fun game, but I chose Melee. What Melee has over Smash 4 is that it can be played best casually and competitively. It's such a fun party game and easily accessible to anyone, but at the same time it's the best competitive game with a bunch of advanced techniques or as most people carelessly say 'exploits' involved. Don't get me wrong, Smash Wii U can be played competitively as well, but it's boring in that respect compared to it's older brother Melee. If I was just looking at the party/fun side of things, Smash 4 would win, but with both categories I'd say Melee wins overall.
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For A Nintendo Phone
A Nintendo phone would never break
Re: Weirdness: Now You Can Play Super Smash on a TI-83/84 Calculator
Anyone know exactly how I should go about putting the files onto my calculator?
Re: Capcom Shows Off Comparison Screens For Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trilogy
Will this be retail also?
Re: Art: Controller Evolution Photo Series Hammers Home The Nintendo Factor
The GameCube Controller looks the most comfortable.
Re: Nintendo Hardware and Exclusives Hold Firm at Top of Japanese Charts
Dat Xbox
Re: Shovel Knight is Burying Sales Expectations
If anyone is trying to decide which platform to buy it for, it's 3DS all the way. The 3D effect in this game is just amazing.
Re: Rare Co-Founder Tim Stamper Is Back In The Games Industry
@WillMelnyk we do not talk about that abomination
Re: Rare Co-Founder Tim Stamper Is Back In The Games Industry
I'm still waiting for Banjo-Threeie. I'd like Nintendo to pick up a couple of great IPs like Mega Man from Capcom, or Rare's share of IPs; but in all honesty, Nintendo can't even support their own IPs. Where's F-Zero? Where's Earthbound? Where's Metroid? At least we know Star Fox is coming.
P.S. I know the creator of Earthbound said he doesn't want to make a new one, but there's simply too many fans who want one.
Re: If You Want To Follow Super Smash Bros. Melee at Evo 2014, These Are The Details You Need
@vamkar how bout, no
Re: Video: Nintendo UK Sets Its Sights Firmly On The Youth Market With New 3DS Advert
@BlackSpy Because Pokemon is deep.
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
@noctowl well in case you didn't know, professional smash is a job
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
If you don't care to learn this technique, then you obviously don't want to win. Sometimes you have to learn a skill or 2 if you want to see results. You can't always rely on getting all the right items at all the right times to win a race.
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
@absuplendous I was trying to convey that it was good that Wave Dashing was left in Melee. It became a key technique that every competitive Melee player uses today. Of course it was removed from Brawl, but Brawl has it's own problems (tripping). Plus, Melee is much more popular than Brawl.
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
@absuplendous Agreed. What do you think would have happened if Nintendo patched out Wave Dashing in Super Smash Bros Melee?
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
it seems everyone who wants it patched really don't want any skill to be incorporated in mario kart
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
@Spoony_Tech Oh so you're saying they should patch it out because of the way it looks? that's just funny
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
@AugustusOxy I imagine it would be difficult to fully master in a tight game scenario
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
@Spoony_Tech well this looks like it actually takes skill. it looks like something you can get better at the more you practice
Re: Poll: Should Nintendo Patch The Controversial Fire Hopping Technique In Mario Kart 8?
@shigulicious well, the players who are familiar with drifting have a clear advantage over others. Should that be taken out?
Re: Talking Point: Is There A Future For The Wii U Without The GamePad?
I can hear Pokemon Snap calling out...
Re: Mass Market Price And Mario Kart 8 Will Reverse The Wii U's Fortunes, Say UK Retailers
People have been saying that the Wii U is going to end up like the Gamecube. I don't believe the Gamecube failed.