@JohnnyMind Not sure about Steel Diver Sub Wars, but I know for sure that Rusty's Real Deal Baseball was a free-to-play game - luckily practically all Nintendo games with few exceptions such as that one and mobile ones aren't like that and so can still be redownloaded no matter how old the systems they're on are so again, the assumption should be that Nintendo won't turn off their servers anytime soon if ever, not the contrary.
Now that you've brought it up, they also shut down some mobile games too with no EoS safety net like making an offline version, making the game just flat out gone. The gacha community is still reeling from Dragalia Lost, so much so, they're hyping up Stella Sora. There was also that one Dr.Mario game for mobile that they shut down too. And on the contrary, Rusty's made the eShop part of its story. Now that story can't be progressed because you can't buy anything.
When it comes to people losing what they paid for, there is no such thing as "few exceptions". Being F2P is not an excuse to lose your money, especially for single player games, gacha or not. And the same fear applies to game key cards. They yanked a few games Nintendo fans loved playing away, what's stopping them from doing it again?
As for the carts, considering how many complained about loading times on Switch it isn't surprising at all that Nintendo went exclusively for faster ones for Switch 2 games...
People are already reporting better load times on switch 2 though via backwards compatibility. Even then, people would take slightly longer load times if it means owning the games they play.
@electrolite77 They won’t use Switch 1 carts for Switch 2 games because they’re so much slower than the internal storage and SD Card Express
the irony in this is, they already are for default switch releases. So I'm not buying they can't rebrand weaker cards as switch 2 cards with a switch 1 lockout, at least until they improve the tech to be cheaper.
@JohnnyMind You said it yourself, Ubisoft etc. did it, not Nintendo - if the latter ever do so we'll worry about it then,
I'm not in the mindset to "worry about it then". I want the rights done now so it becomes "worry about it never". It's not really an assumption. Companies have already done it in the past, there's nothing to say Nintendo won't follow suit in the future, especially with a leadership change.
I can also add two of Nintendo's own games to the mix if you want, being Rusty's Real Deal Baseball and Steel Diver Sub Wars. if memory serves me right, these games are fully unplayable now because of the online shutdown and eShop lockout. that StarFox submarine DLC I bought for Subwars is rotting in my re-download section, unable to be used now. So don't say Nintendo will never do it.
it's a basic consumer right for here
As for the format options, is it actually possible to make this kind of faster carts at lower storage capacities? I can't help but wonder if it's a technical matter first and foremost considering that there aren't microSD Express cards with low capacities
If Switch 1 cards can already be used just fine on the Switch 2, then it absolutely isn't a formatting issue. Switch games are also capable of 60FPS and all. It's just a matter of data and load times, which is already a non-issue. So it's absolutely an arbitrary element done by Nintendo, as they didn't try to develop more card types specifically for the Switch 2 before launch. It gives a very rushed vibe behind the hardware.
@JohnnyMind "[W]hen Nintendo turns off the servers in a few years"
It's not "disinformation", it's the precedent. UbiSoft has already done this with The Crew, which kicked off #StopKillingGames, Overwatch 1 can now no longer be played, if you had a physical copy of a Games for Windows LIVE, that is defunct and unusable now so you can't easily validate the games you bought. Anybody remember the Zeebo?
It's not about what Nintendo hasn't done, it's about what they might end up doing in several years when nobody is noticing. And the concern is not limited to just Nintendo. Mobile store services have upped and vanished too. Servers cost money to maintain. This kind of behavior should be illegal too, but it's not regulated
but you can't have both and I'm not surprised seeing more and more publishers going for Game-Key Cards if not even straight up exclusively digital and at most code-in-box considering that in addition to the objective increased costs and so fully physical potentially not being feasible for them...
You absolutely could have both but Nintendo didn't make more format options. The Switch has storage ranging from 4GB to 32GB, formatting resembling SD card sizes so everyone can pick a size that fits their game. So that begs the question, why didn't the Switch 2? You have games that are barely large enough to fill 64GB but Nintendo forces the size on them regardless.
Ya know, you could argue other franchises that crossed over with Sonic at least have something to do with Sonic. Mario was a rival Sonic and Eggman were guest characters in Wreck-it-Ralph Korone is Sonic's only Japanese fan Minecraft added sonic stuff as a creative item all of the the other characters are SEGA or SEGA adjacent.....
@The-Chosen-one If you truly were OG, you'd remember the era when PC games came on an installation disc. Now that is gone because publishers started started also doing this "keydisc" release, making it all useless to even buy a physical copy of, say, NieR Automata for PC, because it's just a steam key printed on a disc.
considering me and my cousin want to play TCGs over the camera, this gets me to ask questions....
What resolution is a Switch live stream again? We need to read each other's text after all and I personally got us both some Toyger 4K cameras specifically for card games
@Kingy I'm not gonna say it's impossible. Mobile games have come a long way. At some point they might even make a mobile port of this game. (but of course I want physical)
@GoldenSunRM there barely have been any games released after Ryza other than Ryza. Sophie was a sequel and she's still a cutting board, as is other members of the cast, Marie was virtually unchanged but that's to be expected from a remake. Yumie is the first new face in the series in a few years.
Ryza benefited a lot from the pandemic at the time, people seem to keep forgetting that. Having a cozy RPG was ripe for the era
@dartmonkey Apologies if that came off as rude, but I felt it was something to keep an eye on, especially for niche franchises that thrive off of that loyalty. that's all
@darkswabber Rarely do we get a japanese game artistically designed with english in mind as part of its arts. I can only name Bayonetta, Devil May Cry and the OG RE games
Like a Dragon is not one of those franchises. It's a japanese crime drama, hardcore in its own culture.
As the saying goes "gamers will optimize the fun out of their own game". The same could also be said about most dubs in relation to arts for teens and adults. Doesn't exactly help that a franchise like this has a reputation of being "JAPAN AF".
@darkswabber On top of that, procedural generation uses noticable chunks to combine assets, whereas GenAI tries to be microscopic and pretend what was made was entirely original (when it really wasn't when taking a look at the meta data)
@OTBC87 The problem here is that games are subjective in terms of pricing at business discretion. So to say "games need to increase their prices" is arguable against from the consumer's point of view. This isn't like a mandatory commodity like food or shelter, which could threaten regulations if things get too expensive. This is something people have made for entertainment's sake and can be priced in any shape or fashion because "the company says so". And clearly the audience isn't taking it very well compared to more approachable methods of getting a copy into your house
@OTBC87 All this mentality is trying to do is justify the excessive spending rich people make on their own projects.
Expedition 33 just came out and it already retains seemingly AAA quality at a fraction of the development cost and price. If memory serves me right, it only costed $50M to make and made back almost all of its development budget at around $50 retail.
Yes, the model is not working out for conventional AAA. That's a sign that they need to stop spending so recklessly and make games with smaller budgets. and now they are trying to pass their poor financial management onto the consumer. But somehow the consumer is entitled?
Instead of calling people entitled, maybe try taking a deeper look at what is currently poisoning the big boy industry.
@N00BiSH They work best with high end action games, games that don't have rebindable control schemes or just giving more options.
Say you are playing a Modern Doom game, you can put a jump button on one of the paddles so you are never NOT moving, aiming and shooting and weapon swapping at the same time
In games like devil may cry they let you go nuts with move preparation.
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Re: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Version 13.0.4 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@N00BiSH I was thinking it would be a nintendo japan store exclusive or some asia/arabia release
I just want all DLC on a card just like BotW Expantion Pass edition
Re: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Version 13.0.4 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
Soooooo...... when is the "Smash Ultimate + Expansion Roster" edition getting released?
Re: Forget Switch 2 Game Key-Cards - "Full On-The-Cart Physical Releases" Are What People Want, Says Publisher Lost In Cult
@JohnnyMind Not sure about Steel Diver Sub Wars, but I know for sure that Rusty's Real Deal Baseball was a free-to-play game - luckily practically all Nintendo games with few exceptions such as that one and mobile ones aren't like that and so can still be redownloaded no matter how old the systems they're on are so again, the assumption should be that Nintendo won't turn off their servers anytime soon if ever, not the contrary.
Now that you've brought it up, they also shut down some mobile games too with no EoS safety net like making an offline version, making the game just flat out gone. The gacha community is still reeling from Dragalia Lost, so much so, they're hyping up Stella Sora. There was also that one Dr.Mario game for mobile that they shut down too. And on the contrary, Rusty's made the eShop part of its story. Now that story can't be progressed because you can't buy anything.
When it comes to people losing what they paid for, there is no such thing as "few exceptions". Being F2P is not an excuse to lose your money, especially for single player games, gacha or not. And the same fear applies to game key cards. They yanked a few games Nintendo fans loved playing away, what's stopping them from doing it again?
As for the carts, considering how many complained about loading times on Switch it isn't surprising at all that Nintendo went exclusively for faster ones for Switch 2 games...
People are already reporting better load times on switch 2 though via backwards compatibility. Even then, people would take slightly longer load times if it means owning the games they play.
@electrolite77
They won’t use Switch 1 carts for Switch 2 games because they’re so much slower than the internal storage and SD Card Express
the irony in this is, they already are for default switch releases. So I'm not buying they can't rebrand weaker cards as switch 2 cards with a switch 1 lockout, at least until they improve the tech to be cheaper.
Re: Forget Switch 2 Game Key-Cards - "Full On-The-Cart Physical Releases" Are What People Want, Says Publisher Lost In Cult
@JohnnyMind
You said it yourself, Ubisoft etc. did it, not Nintendo - if the latter ever do so we'll worry about it then,
I'm not in the mindset to "worry about it then". I want the rights done now so it becomes "worry about it never". It's not really an assumption. Companies have already done it in the past, there's nothing to say Nintendo won't follow suit in the future, especially with a leadership change.
I can also add two of Nintendo's own games to the mix if you want, being Rusty's Real Deal Baseball and Steel Diver Sub Wars. if memory serves me right, these games are fully unplayable now because of the online shutdown and eShop lockout. that StarFox submarine DLC I bought for Subwars is rotting in my re-download section, unable to be used now. So don't say Nintendo will never do it.
it's a basic consumer right for here
As for the format options, is it actually possible to make this kind of faster carts at lower storage capacities? I can't help but wonder if it's a technical matter first and foremost considering that there aren't microSD Express cards with low capacities
If Switch 1 cards can already be used just fine on the Switch 2, then it absolutely isn't a formatting issue. Switch games are also capable of 60FPS and all. It's just a matter of data and load times, which is already a non-issue. So it's absolutely an arbitrary element done by Nintendo, as they didn't try to develop more card types specifically for the Switch 2 before launch. It gives a very rushed vibe behind the hardware.
Re: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Officially Reveals Nickelodeon Collaboration
@TYRANACLES Imagine Miku and Ichiban having beef over who can sing Baka Mitai better 🤣
Re: Forget Switch 2 Game Key-Cards - "Full On-The-Cart Physical Releases" Are What People Want, Says Publisher Lost In Cult
@JohnnyMind
"[W]hen Nintendo turns off the servers in a few years"
It's not "disinformation", it's the precedent. UbiSoft has already done this with The Crew, which kicked off #StopKillingGames, Overwatch 1 can now no longer be played, if you had a physical copy of a Games for Windows LIVE, that is defunct and unusable now so you can't easily validate the games you bought. Anybody remember the Zeebo?
It's not about what Nintendo hasn't done, it's about what they might end up doing in several years when nobody is noticing. And the concern is not limited to just Nintendo. Mobile store services have upped and vanished too. Servers cost money to maintain. This kind of behavior should be illegal too, but it's not regulated
but you can't have both and I'm not surprised seeing more and more publishers going for Game-Key Cards if not even straight up exclusively digital and at most code-in-box considering that in addition to the objective increased costs and so fully physical potentially not being feasible for them...
You absolutely could have both but Nintendo didn't make more format options. The Switch has storage ranging from 4GB to 32GB, formatting resembling SD card sizes so everyone can pick a size that fits their game. So that begs the question, why didn't the Switch 2? You have games that are barely large enough to fill 64GB but Nintendo forces the size on them regardless.
Re: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Officially Reveals Nickelodeon Collaboration
Ya know, you could argue other franchises that crossed over with Sonic at least have something to do with Sonic.
Mario was a rival
Sonic and Eggman were guest characters in Wreck-it-Ralph
Korone is Sonic's only Japanese fan
Minecraft added sonic stuff as a creative item
all of the the other characters are SEGA or SEGA adjacent.....
wtf does SpongeBob have to do with Sonic?!
Re: Forget Switch 2 Game Key-Cards - "Full On-The-Cart Physical Releases" Are What People Want, Says Publisher Lost In Cult
@The-Chosen-one If you truly were OG, you'd remember the era when PC games came on an installation disc. Now that is gone because publishers started started also doing this "keydisc" release, making it all useless to even buy a physical copy of, say, NieR Automata for PC, because it's just a steam key printed on a disc.
Re: Reminder: You Can Use Non-Nintendo USB Cameras With Switch 2
considering me and my cousin want to play TCGs over the camera, this gets me to ask questions....
What resolution is a Switch live stream again? We need to read each other's text after all and I personally got us both some Toyger 4K cameras specifically for card games
Re: Nintendo Reportedly Banning Switch 2's Using MIG Cartridges
imagine banning a so called pirate from accessing the eShop.
Jokes write themselves
Re: 'Rumble Has Been Turned Off Due To Prolonged Use'? Don't Worry, Your Switch 2 Joy-Con Probably Aren't Broken
This is probably to prevent repetitive strain injuries that rumble has been pointed to as a cause.
Re: Another Atelier Game Is Coming To Switch This September, Here's A "First Look"
@jaughndis We're all born naked, man
Re: Another Atelier Game Is Coming To Switch This September, Here's A "First Look"
@AkiraDKCN what are you talking about? The style of lewdness in atelier is absolutely leaning towards innocent and comforting
Re: Another Atelier Game Is Coming To Switch This September, Here's A "First Look"
@Kingy I'm not gonna say it's impossible. Mobile games have come a long way. At some point they might even make a mobile port of this game. (but of course I want physical)
Re: Another Atelier Game Is Coming To Switch This September, Here's A "First Look"
@GoldenSunRM there barely have been any games released after Ryza other than Ryza. Sophie was a sequel and she's still a cutting board, as is other members of the cast, Marie was virtually unchanged but that's to be expected from a remake.
Yumie is the first new face in the series in a few years.
Ryza benefited a lot from the pandemic at the time, people seem to keep forgetting that. Having a cozy RPG was ripe for the era
Re: Another Atelier Game Is Coming To Switch This September, Here's A "First Look"
@Kingy it's a spin off. The original is still going (JP-only).
The mobile game had SMB3 style maps, so you know this isn't a port of the mobile game
Re: Another Atelier Game Is Coming To Switch This September, Here's A "First Look"
@TheSaneInsanity Cynical, are we?
Also, are you even familiar with Atelier? Edgy is the last thing people call this series!
@GoldenSunRM If they realized that, they wouldn't have made a sequel to Sophie post-Ryza
Re: Street Fighter 6's Switch 2 Version Declared Tournament Legal By Capcom
I mean, of course the developer would want to make their own game tournament legal in their own eSports league
Question is, will the community accept it
Re: Disgaea 7 Complete Is Launching Exclusively On Switch 2 In The West
@dartmonkey Apologies if that came off as rude, but I felt it was something to keep an eye on, especially for niche franchises that thrive off of that loyalty. that's all
Re: Hershey Teams Up With Pokémon For New Collectable Chocolates
Who's dumb idea was it to make food that expires into a collectable?!?!? And not the fake, cute kind?
That's not gonna last a summer, I can tell you that...
Re: Disgaea 7 Complete Is Launching Exclusively On Switch 2 In The West
@Sindayl it is. @NintendoLife failed to mention that. Should probably start checking official shops for that info
Re: Review: Yakuza 0: Director's Cut (Switch 2) - A Series Highlight That's Never Looked Or Played Better
@mikegamer I think you did
Re: Review: Yakuza 0: Director's Cut (Switch 2) - A Series Highlight That's Never Looked Or Played Better
@mikegamer did you tag wrong?
Re: Review: Yakuza 0: Director's Cut (Switch 2) - A Series Highlight That's Never Looked Or Played Better
@darkswabber Rarely do we get a japanese game artistically designed with english in mind as part of its arts. I can only name Bayonetta, Devil May Cry and the OG RE games
Like a Dragon is not one of those franchises. It's a japanese crime drama, hardcore in its own culture.
As the saying goes "gamers will optimize the fun out of their own game". The same could also be said about most dubs in relation to arts for teens and adults. Doesn't exactly help that a franchise like this has a reputation of being "JAPAN AF".
Re: Review: Yakuza 0: Director's Cut (Switch 2) - A Series Highlight That's Never Looked Or Played Better
@mikegamer *Can't read subtitles in a game that's mostly a visual novel when gameplay takes a back seat
Re: Random: Using A GameCube Controller With The NSO App Yields Fun Surprises
Where's the GameCube ambiance though?
Re: Final Fantasy Tactics Physical Switch Release Has A Free Switch 2 Upgrade
Why don't they just bake the switch 2 patch into the Switch 1 version of the physical release?
Re: Want To 100% 'Welcome Tour'? You'll Need To Cough Up For Some Accessories
the charging grip is the most outragious to me. Why not just release a generic shell of it for the back buttons?
Re: Random: What Do Switch 2 Cartridges Taste Like? The Experts Weigh In
If only that bittering agent actually worked.
Sure it might make babies spit it out, but my mom's dog ended up chewing on it anyways, piercing the chip.
Had to buy a whole new copy of Nelke
Re: Random: What Do Switch 2 Cartridges Taste Like? The Experts Weigh In
@HugoGED kids probably did it first
Re: The Switch 2 Fixes Its Predecessor's "Worst Performing" Game
@Olliemar28 Might be time to start doing your own tests then, or at least a handful of games you KNOW had issues
Re: Random: Yakuza 0's Antagonists Reunite To Play Switch 2 Together
@maulinks But they abandoned the name, then came back to it for a re-release, but are gonna abandon it again?
Just pull a Final Fantasy 1-6 and make up your mind already!
I vouch for Like a Dragon
Re: Fear Not, Using GameShare Between Switch 1 & 2 Looks Super Simple
@thedicemaster But nintendo are also the ones who opened the floodgates to that being possible as a so-called norm. so they also share blame
Re: Fear Not, Using GameShare Between Switch 1 & 2 Looks Super Simple
@Skunkfish The game keys are definitely anti-consumer moves. proprietary ownership is pro consumer
Re: Fear Not, Using GameShare Between Switch 1 & 2 Looks Super Simple
If it works with Pokken Tournament and Alice Gear Aegis, then I won't have to buy a second copy for multiplayer.
Pokken was built for 2 screen multiplayer, so it's a must
Re: Random: Xenoblade Chronicles X Pops Up On Microsoft PC Game Page
Nintendo marketing their "gamer games" for the PC?
Re: New Yakuza 0 Opening Movie Builds The Hype For Switch 2 Launch
@Bigmanfan Some people are from internet poor countries where it takes 2 weeks to download a game
Re: New Yakuza 0 Opening Movie Builds The Hype For Switch 2 Launch
Fun fact, this is the original OP that never made its way over to the west.
Re: Feature: "You've Gotta Make It More Sexy" - Final Fantasy & Persona Voice Actors Have Made A Dating Sim For Everyone
@HHappyGoose88 People are refusing GenAI for a reason.
GenAI is built on the basis of theft.
The internet and cars are built on the basis of physics, chemestry and social sciences.
Re: Feature: "You've Gotta Make It More Sexy" - Final Fantasy & Persona Voice Actors Have Made A Dating Sim For Everyone
@thehat360 That's money you'll never get back
Re: Rune Factory: Guardians Of Azuma Lets You Hop Between Timelines To Date Multiple Characters
Polygamy Ho!!!! XD
All hail the interdimensional harem king!
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Dev Used Procedural Generation To Manage 100,000 Different Assets
@darkswabber On top of that, procedural generation uses noticable chunks to combine assets, whereas GenAI tries to be microscopic and pretend what was made was entirely original (when it really wasn't when taking a look at the meta data)
Re: Random: Marilyn Before Mario? That Time Nintendo Went A Bit Playboy
@Coalescence Do note that "Seal of Quality" was more about how it wouldn't break your system than being a good game
Re: Random: Marilyn Before Mario? That Time Nintendo Went A Bit Playboy
friendly reminder that nintendo also owns an Super Mario porn parody. An american one, so you know it was gonna be crap too if released.
So by american metrics, it was tasteful.
Re: "If You're A Real Fan, You'll Find A Way" - Borderlands 4 Dev Gives Tone Deaf Response To Price Concerns
@OTBC87 The problem here is that games are subjective in terms of pricing at business discretion. So to say "games need to increase their prices" is arguable against from the consumer's point of view. This isn't like a mandatory commodity like food or shelter, which could threaten regulations if things get too expensive. This is something people have made for entertainment's sake and can be priced in any shape or fashion because "the company says so". And clearly the audience isn't taking it very well compared to more approachable methods of getting a copy into your house
in other words, it's a load of bull
Re: "If You're A Real Fan, You'll Find A Way" - Borderlands 4 Dev Gives Tone Deaf Response To Price Concerns
@OTBC87 All this mentality is trying to do is justify the excessive spending rich people make on their own projects.
Expedition 33 just came out and it already retains seemingly AAA quality at a fraction of the development cost and price. If memory serves me right, it only costed $50M to make and made back almost all of its development budget at around $50 retail.
Yes, the model is not working out for conventional AAA. That's a sign that they need to stop spending so recklessly and make games with smaller budgets. and now they are trying to pass their poor financial management onto the consumer. But somehow the consumer is entitled?
Instead of calling people entitled, maybe try taking a deeper look at what is currently poisoning the big boy industry.
Re: Setting The Switch 2 Pro Controller's GL And GR Buttons Looks As Easy As Pie
I wonder if they will ever add this feature to the Joycons
Re: Setting The Switch 2 Pro Controller's GL And GR Buttons Looks As Easy As Pie
@N00BiSH They work best with high end action games, games that don't have rebindable control schemes or just giving more options.
Say you are playing a Modern Doom game, you can put a jump button on one of the paddles so you are never NOT moving, aiming and shooting and weapon swapping at the same time
In games like devil may cry they let you go nuts with move preparation.
Re: Virtua Fighter 5 R.E.V.O. Announced For Switch 2
@DonkeyKongBigBoy
"digital is selling more"
Yeah, because of mobile apps and live service games being counted in digital sales.
How many times do i have to repeat that???
Re: Yes, Nightdive Is Aware Its Games Would Be "Great" With Switch 2 Mouse Support
@The-Chosen-one Blue Archive here we come!!!