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@DTFaux Not only that, but the AI bros are intentionally misconstruing what people mean by AI.

We mean GenAI, but they wanna paint this as you being against AI as a whole if you're against GenAI, so they can call you a luddite

Some AI bro just tried doing this to me today, even though we play video games, which are laced with AI tech in general by default

You gotta be very deliberate with your language, very deliberate with the tech you're talking about, so to shut down those goalpost shifting attempts

@DTFaux I just respond with "no tool is suppose to replace it's wielder"

Recently got booted from a subreddit mod list because the only mod there was an AI bro and he argued this exact same thing. Meanwhile I just wanted some quality control....

no censorship this time?

@Wexter "have you played Xillia and Xillia 2? They're complete on their own"
So are games like Atelier.

I don't care man.

@Wexter "Hey guys we're going to delay this fan favorite release so we can slaps the 2nd game in, increase the price and it's a game a good 1/3 of you don't even like!

How is that pro-consumer!"

It's almost like delaying a release to be complete is actually pro-consumer! (not that Xillia has any water to hold with it's censorship removing and altering content to the point of getting Japanese politicians talking but I digress)

@Wexter Mario galaxy 1+2 was a game with a worse deal than the last Mario collection. 3 games arguable 20 bucks each, vs 2 games, one of which was in the previous collection, for 35 bucks each at cheapest.

Notice how dumb that sounds to a consumer? That they have to buy the same game at a higher price?

now, lets put that into perspective with Xillia. 2 games separately for 100 bucks, or 2 games bundled together for 50 bucks.... which one sounds like the better deal...

again, see how dumb this sounds?

People aren't made of money, so please, stop mocking people for thinking the money isn't worth it when their finance situation makes it so they can't buy as many games. I already mention that some people avoid digital games for a reason. You might be better off, and good for you, or you don't care about the ownership of your games, but others aren't in that situations

Might just wait for a nintendo reprint then to get the say one update on card

@Wexter Xillia isn't an abstract collection like the Mario 3D Stars, man. This is a continuous story. There really is no sensible person that would ask for both games to be separate.

When I said that this is putting artist out of a job, I meant it. GenAI is trained to mash actual artists work into a mess of an image, without their consent and without their permission, which, surprise, the corporate world weaponizes against the very people who made said art. It just becomes a viscous cycle of people getting put out of a job while the machine can't survive without stealing their work because GenAI inbreeding causes more damage to the system long term.

This isn't the same as horses getting replaced by cars, because the car didn't chop off the horse's legs to call it its own to prove it's worth. Woodworkers still exist in the more artistic and decor world, and mechanics are still making things too. Machines are still an extension of that, but not a hostile replacement of them.

To answer your part of "being human"...
Illustrative arts is suppose to be a snapshot into a person's mind and soul, how did they feel, what were they thinking, what memories slipped into the work itself by mistake, how do they see the world even in the mundane ways. That's part of the human side of making art and why it starts to connect on a deeper level. And that's what AI doesn't understand nor can it properly replicate it. But cooperation's still want to push it anyways because it's cheaper to make a "product" than actually try to sit down and make something, even if the end result is worse. If firing everyone would save them money, they will do it without a care for the end result. (and we already see that a lot in gaming as is)

@roboshort Then just play a TTRPG then. >.>
Isn't the whole point to play and mess with friends? Be a game of imagination?

Why the hell would you want to play with an AI?! That defeats the point.

A JRPG is made to simulate TT roleplaying while telling a story of its own, not replace it.

@Wexter Look man, if the games in question are part of a unique back to back duology, I say it's fair to try and bundle them together when they become retro. Hell, Namco already did this with Klonoa. Not everyone is made of money. Additionally, many people here also prefer physical so they actually own their games, which doesn't go on sale in the same way as digital. And this is competing with other retro RPGs that are bundled too on Switch like the final fantasy bundles.

So yeah, acting like wanting a better, cohesive deal being "complain for the sake of complaining" is missing the point.

@roboshort GenAI has nothing to do with gameplay tho.

It's a theft system designed to put artists out of a job using their own creations against them
So yeah, it's not something to celebrate

@Wexter I believe his point is that you can put both games in one collection. Size and length be damned

I have both Atelier trilogies on one card per sub-series

So there really is no point in trying to separate them when they are this old

@JR150 Pretty much. I'd say it's more adorable there, what with the Neps being all cute and funny.

Would really love to see the Neptunia series return to SEGA's hands, even if only as a guest. Imagine how Neptune would start rippin on all of the SEGA IPs

They better not censor any of these releases. Especially Berseria.

Found out too late that they neutered a violent but impactful scene for the west. Would like a fully uncut release.

Bayonetta and Neptunia

Especially Neptune. She's suppose to represent all of Sega, after all!

@CaptainCluck Eh, Nintendo is already pretty hated right now so it balances out I guess

@Yosti Why wouldn't it? The OG game was for PC. Can't remember the last time the game came out on a non-pointer system

Never let it be forgotten that Nintendo is a massive patent troll.

In japan, they are infamous for this. Most Japanese gaming conglomerates too

@ShieldHero Actually they are. they try to sell subscriptions and such to even use the AI generator.

I'd much rather that money goes to a fan artist that might be brought on to be official one day

On one hand, I know that they are lying and are only out for themselves

On the other hand, GenAI is theft, and the end result is often lifeless and crowds the internet's algorithm that could have gone to a real artist or someone else that's just as entertaining

If it means I start seeing less invasive GenAI on my pixiv feed, the better it is for me

@Pillowpants Most Disgaea games are standalone anthologies, with an exception made to the first one which has 2 direct sequels (2, D2) and spinoffs inspired by it.

Bet ya they're still doing everything they can to scrub love hotels and naked playing cards from their history

I have the remake on Switch. probably gonna wait til having a switch 2 to give it another whirl due to having a 60fps cap

@SuperBro64 I mean, we're talking about action games here. It's 60FPS or bust for games at this speed

I'd rather take the unstable 60. Would mean the game would get better with time. Just look at Switch games now

@CasualTalkRadio I have my doubts about that. She worked in legal, not creative, in america no less.

Making Zelda a more prominent character seems entirely an NoJ idea

@Kiyata The problem with that statement is that we're no longer in a genderlocked culture. So what a "girl game" is has no meaning these days.
Even a lot of games real boomers would think are for girls are being aimed at guys these days and vice versa.

@zteinr We still have Sakurai! 👀

@MyMemory Yeah, the older heads are more traumatized by what happened to hollywood and don't want the same shielded incompetency to go to other hobbies they enjoy

Anybody who's been keeping up with the failures behind disney alone knows there's a lot of sexist spite coming from the women who lead there alone

As for Ms. Pritchard, I'm gonna be on wait and see. Satoru Shibata is also gonna be a CEO, so this might be a legit change of hands based on competency

Here's to hoping she doesn't further implement a draconian censorship policy. Nintendo is already doing questionable things with their approval process as of late.

then install the mandatory data on the damn system before starting the main game!!!

You're dancing around the problem.

If Cyberpunk can work off a game card, why can't these games?!?!

@dskatter If you already played through it many times and even picked up the most recent release years ago, changes are you already beat them already

Again, who is this appealing to?

@dskatter Considering how story heavy this is, not exactly an ideal inclusion

Ah yes, a mode to avoid playing the game....

And yet, no Operation StarForce translation

@Orpheus79V Which is a shame, because Jun Senoue was the one who created and first sang for Open Your Heart. Geoelli came later

@Erigen Even though he was regularly paid to make more sonic songs for an entire decade.

I really don't know what the heck is going on here...

@beltmenot Already on it. lol

@StuTwo "heavy metal".....

because when I think of metroid I think of guns and roses and DIO and not Japan trying to make xenomorphs in their way in their own wacky world.....

Lol. the people here claiming "accessibility" when disabled people just need a controller and imagery options made for them so they can play at all.

It's like they just gave up and are telling the player to optimize the fun in their game.....
What was the quote again? 👺

@MrPerson0 breaking street date is the least of their concerns
really weak reason to remove ownership entirely

As the brits of Nintendolife would probably put it

OH BUGGER OFF!!!

"Game Key Cards are also a measure "against illegal copying", as the data cannot be extracted from the cartridge and distributed online"
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna dump all of my switch games I downloaded online and have hackers do their thing.
lol

"Do you think a company that’s already made that much profit would do this just to make even more money"
yes. Absolutely yes. That's corporatism for ya.

@Dimey Calling someone a cheapskake for a $70 rerelease? The last one was a trilogy for 60 bucks?

Boy you must spoiled

They better not fck up the localization again

@sixrings I mean, Sonic Colors Ultimate, for example, couldn't even run on the Switch and that was a Wii game.

So it's not always down to that. The real issue could be because of development bloat. A lot of these companies, especially ones in the west, have really poor management over their development.

if they use genAI like they did for front mission 3, it's an instant no...

@Markatron84 I'm a bit more of a stickler on that front tho.
If a company does sell me something, but they sell it to me in a broken, incomplete mess that may have also been censored, I'm pirating with all of the fixes and content restored.
I don't even care if it's a modern release. you don't treat your loyalists like that.
Copyright and lost source code are the only areas I may be forgiving in

Well, this might be a way of bypassing china. I hear that even though the two lands are hostile towards each other, the citizens and products are still allowed to pass through without checks.

And considering that Hong Kong is 15 years away from being absorbed into china, this is probably a smart move

@Lord it's an open beta so you just download it