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@Itachi2099 Probably because they'll sell the game then

@Anguspuss Ah yes, lack of investment when all Nintendo studios and contractors already released their games and some already released their second or even third one (except for Retro Studios). 20 new games didn't appear from nothing.

@Pojos98 What are you even talking about? Pushmo was a 3DS game and DS and all handhelds from Nintendo had tons of third party support, to the point that the majority of the games were and still are exclusives to those consoles.

just 4 days later the news came here lmao

@Silly_G Prepare to eat your words then. Because Nintendo will do that.

@Toy_Link Yes, Tanabe mentioned first and he mentioned something before as well. I believe this is true because something similar was said two years ago by Aquamarine, a nintendo insider that had info

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tanabe-paper-mario-it%E2%80%99s-no-longer-possible-to-modify-mario-characters-or-to-create-original-characters-that-touch-on-the-mario-universe.249178/page-7#post-39857767

As for giving it to Miyamoto, all the interviewed talked about Miyamoto and that was it. It was an Iwata asks so it was revised and so on, so it's pretty clear that there was no false info on there as all of that would have a overseen there. Tanabe, Kudo and other involved also gave their own opinion on the matter there.

And yes, Tanabe said this on 2020 much like Risa said, which is why it's clear to me that this isn't a politic for either of them but Nintendo as a company. i don't know if Mario & luigi will come back or if with it on hiatus now they'll try to make paper mario as rpg again, but that's the situation.

And as far as the IP team, I can't say anything without looking at the guideline, which we probably never will. But considering how open Tanabe has been with info and Nagaya also is, I hope more details surface. I don't think all will be out if it does, considering how much rules probably exists in cases like these, but would be cool to see how it is.

@LinkSword Are you going to ignore the fact that Nagaya literally says the same thing? Why are you ignoring the fact that the director of the game literally agree with him on this mater? Open the Nintendo Everything interview and you'll understand what I mean, considering how Nintendolife cuts the interview.

@Maxz You clearly have no idea how an IP team works. IP team in any company is for external matters, so license for merchandise, for characters in games like Mario+Rabbids which is a product from another company and in this case, a development from a contractor in a game produced and published by Nintendo. Anyone working on a project like this would have guidelines to follow, much like it happens on any other company.

Also, Nintendo EAD is dead for more than 5 years since its merger.

@NEStalgia That's not how it is. Those things didn't began after Iwata died. It began already on him there. The link I posted before says things that are connected with what Tanabe says about how this IP team was created in 2009 after Super Paper Mario to oversee the mario brand on games of the series made by contractors.

Aside from this, the only change that happened since Iwata's death was the merger of the development and production divisions of Nintendo EAD and Nintendo SPD into Nintendo EPD and other divisions inside of Nintendo, which reorganized into 3 main ones. With that said, this happened just a few months after his death so it's obvious that this came from him as a reorganization can't and won't happen fast like this.

@Toy_Link Stop spreading misinformation. Tanabe didn't blame Miyamoto at all (that was said by Iwata and Tanabe on Iwata ask, along Kudo), he never said anything about Alpha Dream either in 2016 (Risa Tabata said) and the IP team isn't something he said alone but also by Nagaya, who is the IS director in the game and also confirmed. If those things were untrue, Nintendo would come to public and deconfirm.

Also I love how Nintendo Life don't pick the entire quote. If you guys are going to pick the translation from Nintendo Everything, at least pick all of it instead of just one sentence from Nagaya. Would also be cool to point out that Tanabe is a Nintendo employee and Nagaya is part of IS to not make confusing.

Same for that title focusing only on Tanabe as if Nagaya isn't part of the interview.

This site is really a mess.

@Not-Geno "This dude" is a person who have been working on Nintendo for more than 30 years. I know you guys don't do any kind of research on the company you all love but at least try to do it before commenting. Would be nice to see who Tanabe is and what he worked at Nintendo.

@Moonlessky This isn't some "PR nonsense". What he's talking about is something that exists on lots of companies and what he said already has been said by an insider in resetera 2 years ago about how this IP team was created:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tanabe-paper-mario-it%E2%80%99s-no-longer-possible-to-modify-mario-characters-or-to-create-original-characters-that-touch-on-the-mario-universe.249178/page-7#post-39857767

@Snakesglowcaps None of this will taken away. This IP team exists since 2009 when Iwata still was president and continues to this day. Most companies in entertainment have it and Nintendo began to have it for contracted companies as well.

@TrevorMcD Kawade worked on Super Paper Mario alongside Tanabe. lol

@Clyde_Radcliffe BOTW don't count, I see. So I guess Persona 5, Yakuza 0 and Yakuza Kiwami don't count as PS4 games as they launched on PS3 as well, same for Twilight Princess. Interesting.

Also, your notion of only counting Nintendo developed games is ridiculous man. All of those games are produced by Nintendo EPD, have producers, coordinators, directors

Why do you think Tanabe in Paper Mario has influence? It isn't because it's Mario, it's because it's a game published by Nintendo that has Nintendo staff on it. Why do you think that Kaori Ando is credited as director on Astral Chain when she's a nINTENDO employee? Nintendo has an entire section on Nintendo EPD from the time of Nintendo SPD where they work with external developed games. I recommend you to give a look at staff and credits because you only counting internally developed games is absurd when Nintendo always had more external developed games than internal ones, which is clear when Pokémon, Kirby, Fire Emblem, Smash Bros, Paper mario, Mario & Luigi and so many of their series were never developed by them but outside, with Nintendo overseeing.

I recommend you to give a look to this:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-first-party-thread-ot3-internal-x-external-x-publishing-whats-cooking.116419/

@Clyde_Radcliffe Yeah, when you take out Wii U ports (which are just 8) it's fairly weak. Wait, no, it isn't. Let's Smash Bros Ultimate, Astral Chain, Splatoon 2, BOTW, Arms, Snipperclips, Tetris 99, Ring Fit Adventure, AC New Horizons, Yoshi Crafted World, Fire Emblem Threehouses, Super Mario Odyssey, Xenoblade 2 and many more don't exist, I see.

Also, I love how Nintendo don't make new experiences on a console where they released Labo and Ring Fit Adventure, two experiences that are very traditional!

@Uncle_Andross I love, I just love how games don't count if they aren't on the few franchises you like. Nintendo released much more on Switch than just that but you just count a few releases. Amazing.

@Clyde_Radcliffe Nintendo released much more than this and you know it.

@Razer Whoa, their output don't appeal to everyone? What a surprise! Here's a secret: The output of Nintendo won't ever appeal to everyone, neither will from any other company in this business. That's literally impossible.

You ignore the fact that there's things called resources be it in money or human resources and many companies nintendo contracts and Nintendo itself are responsible for franchises. If you're not interested in Kirby or Fire Emblem, they won't stop to make them because of you.

@Hobbesyall Yes, Furukawa is riding on predecessors when he's part of Nintendo for his entire life and is president of the company since then. Also, I love how you think that a president does everything in a company as if a board of directors don't exist, neither other tons of different internal positions.

@rjejr A second party title wouldn't be on there. For example, Smash Bros, Pokemon, Kirby, Fire Emblem, Paper Mario and many others are second party developed games so they wouldn't be there either but on Nintendo's stream outside of it.

@ReikoMortis Imagine thinking that a president controls the company like that. That's not from him but on marketing, general managers, managers and many other functions. It's insane to put something like games into a CEO lmao It's not on their business. They can only do as much as the employees are doing.

@rjejr Bayonetta 3 never would appear on this as it's a second party developed title.

@DoktorTotenKopf Imagine wanting the Virtual Console model in 2020 when the current model is great and much more cheaper.

@Yanina What games? Hobounichi is the company of Shigesato Itoi, producer, director, writer and co-owner of Mother. He's only doing merchandise but he already said that he don't want to make new games because the story is already completed.

@westman98 He works on Creatures games so yeah

My god, those comments are so toxic. The last years Nintendo fans are awful.

And yes, the next direct is coming 28th august. Grubb, King Zell and Nate the hate are reliable insiders.

@Apportal Where I'm hating on Nintendo? I'm criticizing the people who have absolutely no info on what they're talking about and don't do a minimum research on the subjects they talk. They talk tons of false info and misinformation.

@Apportal Yes, I'm also in a company where there's tons of awful people working with me and it's not because of this that I won't say they aren't awful. What a thinking.

Great. But people here will say that Switch has no games because they only play and consider nintendo games even though a lot of games released just today lol (except if those games aren't on their tastes like clubhouse games, Fire Emblem, Astral Chain, etc) because Nintendo fans on the internet are awful in general.

@Shambo It's already been said more than one time that Mother ended as Itoi told the story he wanted to.

@Zebetite Ah yes, scalpers for a product that only will release in Japan.

@Yanina Because the CEO is the one responsible for news, not the employees working on making things for those news exist. It's impressive the amount of stupidity shared on this site, my god.

@EmmatheBest Yeah, it's as if the recruitment is for NCL..

I love how there's no mention at all to the fact that most chinese buy nintendo games outside of china or digital in their imported switch on the part about animal crossing. Like, yes, the official has only 3 games but most chinese havei mported switch and buy digitally. lol

@Bermanator You have no understanding of management, business or anything. It's just a bunch of wishful thinking.

@Ambassador_Kong Yes, that's probably why there's more than 300 million software sold and more than 150 million are from Nintendo funded games. Your info is amazing.

@Ambassador_Kong Your post is absurd. I have been buying games on Switch during the entire year with new indie and third party games. Stop playing just Nintendo games and expand your horizons, which even with Nintendo itself, they have launched a lot of games this year, with Clubhouse Games and Paper Mario Origami King on the last two months.

And to think that "not focusing in two platforms" would mean more games is to have zero understanding of development. 3DS games are 240p, much smaller scale, have less staff, budget, have in many times the same people working on those projects and console projects, etc. This thinking makes no sense due to this, as HD development focus will make things much above than developing for a hardware like 3DS.

@westman98 It's insane to me that people are saying that Nintendo will lay-off. Not only that but Furukawa was trained to be a sucessor to Iwata as we know from ages that Kimishima was just a substitute of Iwata due to his death.

@Bermanator LMAO Imagine not understanding anything and thinking like that.

@AtlanteanMan That's a lot of words for absolutely nothing. The part in which I love the most is how you say that park and other ventures are not giving extra resources when those are licenses.

@Wavey84 LMAO what a crap post.

@RareFan Ah yes, Switch the port machine where the majority of the games from Nintendo are new games. Amazing how you guys type that ***** without researching or knowing anything.

@Casual_Gamer95 There's a thing called indies and other third party. I bought a lot of games this year which aren't from Nintendo.

@DrJoson No, we shouldn't. The Switch is considered by Nintendo and by all market a home console with handheld capacities. There's a reason for why the games are $60 and the console is more expensive instead of being $40 in its base game.

@Giancarlothomaz First, stop watching arlo videos if you want to stay informed. Second, do a better research.

@Slowdive Tanabe NEVER was executive producer in his career. A basic research of his works show this. But yes, you're right that games have more than one producer, even more when it's a game that has a different developer and publisher. Tanabe here is the Nintendo producer of the project, so he obviously doesn't count, which is why Retro wants more lead producers inside the company.

@AstralSoul No, it isn't. The mobile game is developed by the Mario Kart team, with literally the directors being part of the core staff of previous mario kart games, including 7 and 8. They obviously are working on the next game but they also are working on updates of MKT.

@X68000 Yes, they will be doing it because you said it on a forum.

@Slowdive You know that those "corporations" are studios, right? In the case of Epic.

@Archius9 I guess you guys try to find the most imbecile excuses every time a game you don't like sell well. Amazing.

@Sanangelo89 Astral Chain isn't a third party game.

Whoa send him to prison!