This game was the only time they tried to do something different with their multiplayer mode, I definitely wouldn't fault it for that. I've played a lot of Bomberman games over the years, this is still one of my favourites.
I won't have a bad word said about this controller. Sure it looks weird and clunky now, but without it there would arguably be no analogue thumb sticks, no rumble features, no triggers.
On a side note: Nintendo also standardised the D-pad, shoulder buttons and diamond face button layouts. They pretty much made modern controllers what they are.
Putting Minecraft on the Wii U at this point would benefit Nintendo far more than Mojang. If the console eventually gets off the ground with Smash Bros, then maybe they'd reconsider. The 3DS would make more sense for them, especially if it were bundled, kids would lap it up. But it would need an optimised version of the mobile version. Also the the current 3DS doesn't have that second analogue stick. The new 3DS would be a good match, but maybe it's still too much of a gamble for 4J. Third parties always have a hard time selling on Nintendo systems. Vita on the other hand has a pretty good attach rate for indie games.
If I were Nintendo I would do everything in my power (wallet) to make this happen. But because they live in such a bubble, they are completely oblivious to how massive Minecraft has become. It's now the third highest selling video game of all time, overtaking Super Mario Bros, and it's still climbing.
So happy to see coloured face buttons. I know it seems like a small thing, but for inexpereienced gamers it makes learning the interface that much easier.
The next step is to get Minecraft on the system. Think how many kids would jump on that.
What Yorumi said. Ideas like the Wii U pad are fine if they make use of them. Otherwise it's just an oversized controller that needs recharging every 4 hours. Made worse by the fact certain games force you to use it for the sake of a few touch commands and nothing else. BAD DESIGN.
I just wanted to add he is absolutely right about consumer attitudes. Not just Nintendo, but MS and Sony are all fighting the same problem: audiences with multiple distractions at their fingertips. Entertainment is so readily available now and so cheap, consoles will become an obsolete item for many in the future I feel.
Nintendo will always have their awesome IPs. I just hope they don't get too distracted by hardware gimmicks and try to keep it simple in the future. People will buy their games if the hardware is affordable.
Casuals aren't looking strictly for simplicity in their games, they look for value for money first and foremost. They can get games now for $1 or free, it's a difficult thing to fight against.
Wii and DS were popular not just because of their casual appeal, but because they were radical new ideas with intuitive software to back them up. Word of mouth was their main driving force. Also they were much more affordable than any of the current gen systems.
Wii U was an attempt to re-create that success which backfired. I could list a number of reasons, but the main ones are: There was no killer app like WiiSports, and it was too expensive.
Man that's awesome. My favourite from brawl was the Sonic Angel Island remix. I was only going to get the Wii U version but they're making it very hard for me not to buy this. dammit
Samus isn't the worst case by far, but this sort of thing shouldn't happen to her. The enigmatic design of her character was what made her special. Now she's just another video game pin-up.
With this announcement I think we can safely assume third party support is all but dead. There are some scraps left yes, but CoD was pretty much the last of the big names still supporting WiiU.
Nintendo will never take online gaming seriously. If you live apart from your friends, just buy different hardware and save yourself the disappointment.
Ocarina of Time and A Link to the Past. Not only are they both as close as you can get to the perfect video game, but they were so far ahead of anything out at the time it's not even funny.
From a purely gameplay perspective though, Twilight Princess remains the most epic and fun.
I think @wayward is right, it's gonna be another third party character judging by the attenton they're giving it. Sega, Capcom and Namco all have characters, so that leaves Konami...
No sign of Snake yet. I think they're gonna replace him with Simon Belmont from Castlevania.
I saw it in GAME the other week, prominently displayed on it's own promotional stand, straight down the center isle. Can't remember the last time a Nintendo game got that much shelf space.
This has been true throughout their entire video gaming history. Pretty much all of their rivals have used coolness to sell their products.
The Mega Drive, the Playstation, the Xbox... There's nothing wrong with coolness, but it gets boring after a while.
Nintendo have always been able to make quality games without trying to be 'grown up'. Because of that they have a huge segment of the gaming industry all to themselves. (kids and families) Right now they just need some cheaper hardware to capitalise on it.
I think what happens is: -Parent gets a tablet/phone -Parent lets child play a game on it -Child keeps pestering parent to play said game -Parent buys child their own tablet/phone
I'm glad they're starting to think about ways to use the gamepad, but I still wish they would release a SKU that excludes it. Offer a budget option for people that JUST want to play HD Nintendo games, there are so many out there that would jump at the chance.
Wasn't this one of the very first titles to be announced for the Wii before it came out? Bet they're gutted they missed that gravy train. Can't wait to see how it finally turns out.
The gamepad has always had potential, but potential is just a word unless it turns into something. The cold hard fact is that Nintendo themselves are not even bothering to make use of it anymore in their games. The only arguments I ever see for it's case are: -Off TV Play -Off TV Browsing (get a tablet) -Navigating menus slightly faster (really?) -Maps & Inventory -"I'm loving mine!" (good for you) -ZombiU/Nintendoland
I'm actually glad they tried the idea, it's what I love about them. But enough is enough, it clearly HASN'T worked and they need to swallow their pride like Microsoft before it's too late.
I really don't think this 'brand power' is as powerful as they make out. They've neglected so many of their IPs for so long that the only characters that have any sort of mainstream recognition now are Mario, Zelda and Pokemon.
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Re: Nintendo 64x64: Bomberman 64
This game was the only time they tried to do something different with their multiplayer mode, I definitely wouldn't fault it for that.
I've played a lot of Bomberman games over the years, this is still one of my favourites.
Re: Feature: The Nintendo 64 Controller and the Rise of 3D Gaming
I won't have a bad word said about this controller. Sure it looks weird and clunky now, but without it there would arguably be no analogue thumb sticks, no rumble features, no triggers.
On a side note: Nintendo also standardised the D-pad, shoulder buttons and diamond face button layouts. They pretty much made modern controllers what they are.
Re: You Can Dress Up As Fox McCloud Thanks To Bayonetta 2's Star Fox Costume
So many emotions...
Re: Gallery: It's OK, We Want Each And Every One Of These Gorgeous New 3DS Cover Plates Too
Do they really need so many Mario ones?
Re: Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS Step Up With More Outfit Variations
That's awesome, more personalisation is always good for online games.
Re: Wii U Minecraft Looking Doubtful As Dev Says They Have "Fulfilled The Need For Now"
Putting Minecraft on the Wii U at this point would benefit Nintendo far more than Mojang. If the console eventually gets off the ground with Smash Bros, then maybe they'd reconsider.
The 3DS would make more sense for them, especially if it were bundled, kids would lap it up. But it would need an optimised version of the mobile version. Also the the current 3DS doesn't have that second analogue stick. The new 3DS would be a good match, but maybe it's still too much of a gamble for 4J. Third parties always have a hard time selling on Nintendo systems. Vita on the other hand has a pretty good attach rate for indie games.
If I were Nintendo I would do everything in my power (wallet) to make this happen. But because they live in such a bubble, they are completely oblivious to how massive Minecraft has become. It's now the third highest selling video game of all time, overtaking Super Mario Bros, and it's still climbing.
Re: Project: Nintendo 64x64
Every second game on the N64 supported 4 player modes.
That is why it's my favourite console of all time.
Re: Gallery: It's Time for a Shulk Super Smash Bros. Blowout
If that skimpy outfit is a response from the devs to critics of Samus' costumes, that would be hilarious.
Re: Guide: New Nintendo 3DS - Everything We Know So Far
You have to pay to remove the internet content filter... :/
Re: Review: Demon King Box (3DS eShop)
I clicked for the nip.
Re: Nintendo Confirms amiibo Launch Range of 12 Figurines
I wish they'd stop using Fox's 'square head' design from SF Command, it's really weird looking.
Re: New Wii U and 2DS Bundles Announced, Rolling Out in North America this Fall
Now they just need a Smash Bros Wii U bundle and they're set.
Re: New Nintendo 3DS Models Announced
So happy to see coloured face buttons. I know it seems like a small thing, but for inexpereienced gamers it makes learning the interface that much easier.
The next step is to get Minecraft on the system. Think how many kids would jump on that.
Re: New Legend Of Zelda "Only Possible" Thanks To The Wii U Hardware, Says Eiji Aonuma
I seriously can't wait for this.
Like a Bethesda game, only not all bloody and depressing
Re: Miyamoto States That Nintendo Is Sticking With "Revolutionary" Hardware For The Foreseeable Future
What Yorumi said.
Ideas like the Wii U pad are fine if they make use of them.
Otherwise it's just an oversized controller that needs recharging every 4 hours.
Made worse by the fact certain games force you to use it for the sake of a few touch commands and nothing else. BAD DESIGN.
Re: Shigeru Miyamoto Confidently Outlines Nintendo's Move From Casual To Core
I just wanted to add he is absolutely right about consumer attitudes.
Not just Nintendo, but MS and Sony are all fighting the same problem: audiences with multiple distractions at their fingertips. Entertainment is so readily available now and so cheap, consoles will become an obsolete item for many in the future I feel.
Nintendo will always have their awesome IPs. I just hope they don't get too distracted by hardware gimmicks and try to keep it simple in the future.
People will buy their games if the hardware is affordable.
Re: Shigeru Miyamoto Confidently Outlines Nintendo's Move From Casual To Core
Casuals aren't looking strictly for simplicity in their games, they look for value for money first and foremost. They can get games now for $1 or free, it's a difficult thing to fight against.
Wii and DS were popular not just because of their casual appeal, but because they were radical new ideas with intuitive software to back them up. Word of mouth was their main driving force.
Also they were much more affordable than any of the current gen systems.
Wii U was an attempt to re-create that success which backfired.
I could list a number of reasons, but the main ones are: There was no killer app like WiiSports, and it was too expensive.
Re: Super Smash Bros. For 3DS Will Feature A Music Player That Works In Sleep Mode
Man that's awesome.
My favourite from brawl was the Sonic Angel Island remix.
I was only going to get the Wii U version but they're making it very hard for me not to buy this. dammit
Re: Poll: Which Is The Best Super Mario Platformer?
So hard to pick!
I'd say 2D: Super Mario World
3D: Mario 64 or Galaxy
Re: Talking Point: A History of the Sexualisation of Samus
Samus isn't the worst case by far, but this sort of thing shouldn't happen to her.
The enigmatic design of her character was what made her special. Now she's just another video game pin-up.
Re: Activision Confirms That Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare is Skipping Wii U
With this announcement I think we can safely assume third party support is all but dead.
There are some scraps left yes, but CoD was pretty much the last of the big names still supporting WiiU.
Re: A Pre-order of Sonic Boom Will Bag You an Exclusive Sonic Figurine
It's 'inspired by the video games!' I'm sold.
Re: Beautiful Limited Edition Super Smash Bros. 3DS XL Console Bundle Revealed
@Nintenbomba64 Makes them feel better about the one they bought.
Re: Nintendo Unleashes An Awesome Trailer Showing Off Upcoming Wii U Exclusives
Definitely too much Mario, and too many platformers.
It's a great lineup, I just wish they would diversify a bit.
Re: You Won't Be Able To Cross Swords Online In Hyrule Warriors
Nintendo will never take online gaming seriously.
If you live apart from your friends, just buy different hardware and save yourself the disappointment.
Re: Captain Toad Won't Be Tracking Treasure In Europe Until Next Year
Let the 2014 delays...commence!
Re: Nintendo Reports Losses for Q1 of Financial Year, With Variable Hardware Results
Not enough games.
They need a steady flow of well marketed games on both systems.
Whether it's from them or third parties or second parties, that is what needs to happen then it's a matter of time.
Re: Poll: Which Is The Best Legend Of Zelda Game?
Ocarina of Time and A Link to the Past.
Not only are they both as close as you can get to the perfect video game, but they were so far ahead of anything out at the time it's not even funny.
From a purely gameplay perspective though, Twilight Princess remains the most epic and fun.
Re: New Fighter for Super Smash Bros. to be Revealed on 14th July
I think @wayward is right, it's gonna be another third party character judging by the attenton they're giving it.
Sega, Capcom and Namco all have characters, so that leaves Konami...
No sign of Snake yet. I think they're gonna replace him with Simon Belmont from Castlevania.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Rewrote the E3 Rulebook With a Focus on Children
@MrGawain Agree completely.
Re: Kotaku Says YES to the Wii U - Rejoicing Begins
Like I always say, Nintendo games sell Nintendo systems.
They don't need gimmicks, or horse power, or even third parties.
Next time I hope they just make a standard video games console, and release the peripherals seperate, instead of trying to force them on us.
Re: Video: Midna's Unique Fighting Style Brings Extra Chaos to Hyrule Warriors
I think she would have looked better fighting without the wolf.
Re: Retail Promotions Prompt Tomodachi Life to Continue Climb in UK Charts
I saw it in GAME the other week, prominently displayed on it's own promotional stand, straight down the center isle.
Can't remember the last time a Nintendo game got that much shelf space.
Re: Vblank Entertainment Provides Sales Threshold Update for Retro City Rampage on WiiWare
This tragedy pretty much rounds up the failings of WiiWare.
Re: Shigeru Miyamoto States There Are "A Few" Zelda Titles In Development, Aiming To Evolve The Series
The wait for that next console Zelda is going to be unbearable.
D:
Re: Feature: A Week of Super Smash Bros. Wii U and 3DS Screens - Issue Forty Four
Dude! 4 player balloon fight... I've been begging for that for years!
Is it actually some sort of minigame? or just a shot from a Balloon Fight stage?
Re: Miyamoto Thinks That Nintendo Are in a Genre of Their Own
This has been true throughout their entire video gaming history. Pretty much all of their rivals have used coolness to sell their products.
The Mega Drive, the Playstation, the Xbox... There's nothing wrong with coolness, but it gets boring after a while.
Nintendo have always been able to make quality games without trying to be 'grown up'. Because of that they have a huge segment of the gaming industry all to themselves. (kids and families) Right now they just need some cheaper hardware to capitalise on it.
Re: Stats Suggest That UK Kids Are More Likely To Game On A Tablet Than A Nintendo 3DS
I think what happens is:
-Parent gets a tablet/phone
-Parent lets child play a game on it
-Child keeps pestering parent to play said game
-Parent buys child their own tablet/phone
Re: Save The Universe From Evil Vegetables In Upcoming Wii U eShop title, Ice Cream Surfer
Looks terrible, but the comic it is based on is very good:
http://www.icecreamsurfer.com/comic/chapter-1-title-page/
Re: Eiji Aonuma Hints at The Legend of Zelda on Wii U Being "More Than Just a Single-Player Experience"
I think the second player will control a companion, ala Navi/Fi rather than another Link. Just a guess.
Re: Reggie Fils-Aime Defends Wii U Prospects as Shigeru Miyamoto Highlights Nintendo's Creativity
I'm glad they're starting to think about ways to use the gamepad, but I still wish they would release a SKU that excludes it.
Offer a budget option for people that JUST want to play HD Nintendo games, there are so many out there that would jump at the chance.
Re: Shigeru Miyamoto Hints at Star Fox for Wii U Structure, Explains Background of Mario Maker
Most people complained about Star Fox Assault not having enough ship segments... :/
Re: Video: Prepare To Pour One Out For Sega's Fallen Child Stars
Alex Kidd in Miracle World was the first video game I ever owned. Kid Chameleon was probably my favourite Mega Drive game.
Like so many others have said, it's tragic to see how things have changed in regards to mascots.
Re: E3 2014: Intelligent Systems Will Reveal New Advance Wars And Fire Emblem Titles "When The Time Is Right"
Advance Wars for WiiU, make it happen.
Re: Exclusive: Lost Wii Game, Sadness, To Be Revived as Wii U Exclusive
Wasn't this one of the very first titles to be announced for the Wii before it came out? Bet they're gutted they missed that gravy train. Can't wait to see how it finally turns out.
Re: Talking Point: For Better Or For Worse, The Wii U GamePad Is Here To Stay
Also to everyone saying the game pad is their main selling point,
I say no.
Nintendo games are their main selling point.
Always have been.
Re: Talking Point: For Better Or For Worse, The Wii U GamePad Is Here To Stay
The gamepad has always had potential, but potential is just a word unless it turns into something.
The cold hard fact is that Nintendo themselves are not even bothering to make use of it anymore in their games.
The only arguments I ever see for it's case are:
-Off TV Play
-Off TV Browsing (get a tablet)
-Navigating menus slightly faster (really?)
-Maps & Inventory
-"I'm loving mine!" (good for you)
-ZombiU/Nintendoland
I'm actually glad they tried the idea, it's what I love about them.
But enough is enough, it clearly HASN'T worked and they need to swallow their pride like Microsoft before it's too late.
Re: Talking Point: The Nintendo Figurine Platform Could be a Vital Money-Spinner
I really don't think this 'brand power' is as powerful as they make out. They've neglected so many of their IPs for so long that the only characters that have any sort of mainstream recognition now are Mario, Zelda and Pokemon.
Re: Infinity Ward Merges With Neversoft To Form Super Studio, Retains Infinity Ward Name
Sounds like a good match, they both have experience in pumping out sequels.
Re: Video: Mario Kart 8's Balloon-Popping Battle Mode Looks Something Like This
@Adam Agree, this will kill battle mode.
Obviously the result of another time constraint.