That's pure BS, digital always costs less to sell than physical media. Whether it's a noticeable amount or a couple of dollars, the only explaination here is he wants those dollars for himself.
Digital Distribution is the future. It opens up the market to indie development teams, allows them to set the price point, release patches, demos, DLC, have their games rated accurately. It's the best way to get some fresh blood and new ideas.
The gaming charts don't belong to gamers anymore. But if Nintendo want to be in the charts they just need those multiplatform games on their system. Hopefully WiiU will be that system.
You know the best way to come up with new characters?
Make more platforming games! That's how all the best ones started:
Mario, Metroid, Sonic, Mega Man, Castlevania, Kirby...
And they've got to be awesome, unlike Pikmin and Nintendogs.
Miyamoto is a great producer, but I doubt his ability to come up with any new awesome ideas at this point.
@Phoenixborn I agree with the first part. Hardware sales don't necessarily = software sales. This is a clear sign that Nintendo's core fanbase has been abandoning them in droves, that's why their new software doesn't sell as much. Massive gaps in your release schedules will do that.
I dunno, this E3 will be the maker or breaker for me. The WiiU needs some truely original software to wow me like the Wii did when it launched. Something that makes the controller worth while, not just gimmicky touch screen crap tacked on to the same old games. I won't buy it for traditional games because my Xbox will do that much better with it's traditional controller.
Unsurprising considering how they've treated the Wii in it's final years. It won't hurt them financially because of the enormous profits they already made, but their reputation as a console maker has taken a much bigger hit, which will be hard to recover from.
HAH, you need the Triforce of courage to go out and do that. I never actually had problems with the controls really, it was the world layout and lack of memorable characters that let me down.
I love Z&W, they should make a squel for WiiU's download service. Good title to launch the service, and the WiiU controller would be a perfect fit for some new ideas.
So long as it doesn't eat into NSMBWU development time, I welcome it. Although going back to that article about "Is Nintendo too reliant on Mario" I'm getting even more convinced that it is. I'm not sick of Mario, I'm sick of missing other franchises they could be working on.
This is the kind of article that seperates the realists from the pack. I mean 6000 unit sales before a return!? That's outrageous considering the Wii's poor online install base and complete lack of marketing/support. It's not a big sales number, but for WiiWare it's a struggle for any game.
I hope the Wii U does better, but right now I simply can't defend Nintendo on their online policy. It stinks.
I'll always prefer a 3D Mario, but I am mega excited for this as well. My friends and I had so much fun playing NSMBW it's unreal. I'm praying this is a launch title, it would do wonders for WiiU's sales.
@Ben_Rage_V2 I was the same. I appreciate the amount of content in GX, but I just didn't get the same enjoyment out of it, maybe it was the learning curve. Also X had way more style.
F-Zero is a good game to show off Wii U's power, I hope they make one, and make it online. The problem with Miyamoto, and Nintendo in general is they are so committed to making new experiences, that they won't bother revisting old franchises if they can't think of something new to add to it. I wish they'd realise that most fans are happy with more of the same, and start making DLC for their games.
If he keeps this up, they're gonna have to make something. Link to the Past is an excellent game. I can see how 3D would make multi-leveled rooms that much better. The parts where you're running around on walkways upstairs but can see monsters in the rooms below.
Yes because core fans want something new. No because they still sell and get Nintendo out of the s**t when hardware sales are down. They need to start launching their systems with Mario titles again. It pretty much secures their future, then they can roll out the other IPs later on.
Everyone seems to have differing opinions on which games were the best. Testament to the broad appeal of the series. That's the main reason Mario games are the best, anyone can play them. The new games are getting easier, but the fun is still there. That's all that matters to me at the end of the day.
I'll take that as a confirmation of it not being super powerful. I didn't have my hopes up anyway, they were never gonna outgun Sony and Microsoft. If it can play HD games, that's enough for me. I don't see graphics getting much better anyway.
The whole graphics race is heading to a dead end anyway. Digital Distribution is where it's at. Smaller games at a fraction of the price, giving you twice as much fun. They're made with a passion and creativity that you just don't see in most retail games anymore. But on that front, if Nintendo can make their games look amazing, then that is all that matters. With PS3 levels of power and HD I think it's entirely possible, given what they achieved on the Wii. Besides, I'm still not convinced 'next gen' graphics will look that much better anyway.
Didn't Ubisoft come over all humble and apologetic after they admitted their Wii Launch games were rushed and promised to make quality games from henceforth? I hope they learnt their lesson.
They could save some money by making more straight retro sequels for download services. Streets of Rage 4, Golden Axe 4, etc. Use the same engine and graphics, just create new levels. I'm sure it would sell.
It is a shame to see GAME, GameStation, Electronics Boutique, and GamePlay all taken out in one fell swoop. So what is the future for video game retail in the UK? Are there any specialists left on the highstreet now? Will GameStop move in? :/
I don't know what's going to happen. All I know is graphics can't really get much better than what they are now. If they do, development costs will be astronomical, and the retail market will become even more stagnant or collapse altogether.
@shingi_70 Black doesn't look good, it's borrrrrrrrrriiinnngg. I can see why interior designers and image conscious people like it, but I need colour in my life.
I think a good compromise would be silver, it's pretty neutral, but a bit more interesting than white or black. Just so long as it's not black only, I've got enough black devices in my room. Plus it wouldn't stand out from the other consoles at all. Personally I'd want it bright red.
Frogger has had 25 sequels. That's more than Mario or The Legend of Zelda series. Although I am enticed by the prospect of multiplayer... CURSE YOU FROGGER!
I love 8-bit music. They were so limited with sounds and effects that they had to make sure the composition was awesome, and most of the time it was. There were exceptions though of course.
I think most people in the UK say the word 'NES', whereas a lot of people in the States say 'N.E.S'. I agree 'a N.E.S' sounds weird, 'an NES' also sounds weird.
My wishlist of retro returns is endless. If Nintendo could just give us new Star Fox and F-Zero I'd be happy. Viewtiful Joe with 2 (or more) player is also something I'd like to see.
HD versions are coming to WiiU I expect. I don't know if that's the reason for these game removals, but I would hope they give people free upgrades who already have the standard definition games.
Bayonetta, Nintendogs and NSMBW scored higher in Famitsu than Super Mario 64 and Zelda ALttP. :/ Also there's only one western game with a perfect score and it's Skyrim. :/ :/ Nothing against Kid Icarus, but I take this with a pinch of salt.
Tilt controls and pointer controls work well. Swinging motion controls not so much I think. They give you a unique experience, but it's nothing like virtual reality so just becomes a bit of a chore imo. The Wii remote is a neat idea and very relaxing to use when you're using the nunchuck and not swinging it about. However it lacked certain things that have become standard for a lot of games these days. If I could re design it, I would have a small diamond button layout on the remote, a second stick (or thumbpad) instead of the D-pad, and I would rename all the buttons so they make more sense and give them colours. Also I'd make sure each remote comes WITH a nunchuck. No more of this forced sideways remote crap.
Breaking into the mainstream is hard no matter where you're from. Brand power and hype isn't something you can program into your game no matter how good it is. Personally I preferred Japanese games in the 80s and 90s when they primarily made platformers. Now it mostly seems to be RPGs and Beat em ups, which are my two least favourite genres. I don't mind quirky stuff, or mad Japanese culture themes, but it's got to have gameplay that is fun and not repetitive.
I hope the fact that NSMBW outsold Galaxy doesn't mean the end of 3D Marios. I love both games, but Galaxy is one of the few decent 3D platformers left on the market.
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Re: Iwata Defends Identical Digital and Retail Prices
That's pure BS, digital always costs less to sell than physical media.
Whether it's a noticeable amount or a couple of dollars, the only explaination here is he wants those dollars for himself.
Re: Fan Video Gives a Tease of Star Fox HD
That actually made me sad, it's like a taster of what could be done with Star Fox.
But I've just about given up hope for a new one at this point.
Re: Rayman Legends is Coming to Wii U, Supports NFC
I agree with Kirk, the visuals of Rayman Origins put NSMBW to shame.
That said I prefer Mario's gameplay.
Re: Talking Point: Does Nintendo Finally 'Get' Digital?
Digital Distribution is the future.
It opens up the market to indie development teams, allows them to set the price point, release patches, demos, DLC, have their games rated accurately.
It's the best way to get some fresh blood and new ideas.
Re: Mario's Presence in UK is 'Smallest in the World'
The gaming charts don't belong to gamers anymore.
But if Nintendo want to be in the charts they just need those multiplatform games on their system. Hopefully WiiU will be that system.
Re: We'll Probably See Some New Nintendo Characters Soon
You know the best way to come up with new characters?
Make more platforming games! That's how all the best ones started:
Mario, Metroid, Sonic, Mega Man, Castlevania, Kirby...
And they've got to be awesome, unlike Pikmin and Nintendogs.
Miyamoto is a great producer, but I doubt his ability to come up with any new awesome ideas at this point.
Re: How Running to the Right is Heroic
Platformers > Every other genre.
Re: Talking Point: Why Skyward Sword Sales Failed to Soar
@Phoenixborn I agree with the first part. Hardware sales don't necessarily = software sales. This is a clear sign that Nintendo's core fanbase has been abandoning them in droves, that's why their new software doesn't sell as much.
Massive gaps in your release schedules will do that.
Re: Talking Point: A Big Year for Nintendo
I dunno, this E3 will be the maker or breaker for me.
The WiiU needs some truely original software to wow me like the Wii did when it launched. Something that makes the controller worth while, not just gimmicky touch screen crap tacked on to the same old games.
I won't buy it for traditional games because my Xbox will do that much better with it's traditional controller.
Re: New Super Mario Bros. 2 to Kick Off Retail Downloads
Paying the same price for no box or manual? no thanks.
At least it's a step in the right direction though. If they're allowing downloads of full games then maybe they'll have demos too.
Re: Rayman Legends is Coming to Wii U, Supports NFC
Looks even better than the first.
Re: Nintendo Posts First Annual Loss in 30 Years
Unsurprising considering how they've treated the Wii in it's final years.
It won't hurt them financially because of the enormous profits they already made, but their reputation as a console maker has taken a much bigger hit, which will be hard to recover from.
Re: Real Life Skyward Sword Controls Don't Work
HAH, you need the Triforce of courage to go out and do that.
I never actually had problems with the controls really, it was the world layout and lack of memorable characters that let me down.
Re: Zack & Wiki Producer Interested in Sequel
I love Z&W, they should make a squel for WiiU's download service. Good title to launch the service, and the WiiU controller would be a perfect fit for some new ideas.
Re: Nintendo Download: 26th April 2012 (Europe)
Come onnnn Gnomz Demo...
Re: Nintendo Reveals New Super Mario Bros. 2 for 3DS
So long as it doesn't eat into NSMBWU development time, I welcome it.
Although going back to that article about "Is Nintendo too reliant on Mario" I'm getting even more convinced that it is.
I'm not sick of Mario, I'm sick of missing other franchises they could be working on.
Re: Talking Point: Lessons to be Learned from WiiWare and Beamdog
Take a look at Journey for the PlayStation Network...
Now take a look at Trials Evolution for Xbox Live Arcade...
That's how far behind Nintendo are.
Re: MDK2 Dev Will Never Develop for Nintendo Again
This is the kind of article that seperates the realists from the pack.
I mean 6000 unit sales before a return!? That's outrageous considering the Wii's poor online install base and complete lack of marketing/support.
It's not a big sales number, but for WiiWare it's a struggle for any game.
I hope the Wii U does better, but right now I simply can't defend Nintendo on their online policy. It stinks.
Re: Mario Wii U "Based On" New Super Mario Bros. Mii
I'll always prefer a 3D Mario, but I am mega excited for this as well.
My friends and I had so much fun playing NSMBW it's unreal.
I'm praying this is a launch title, it would do wonders for WiiU's sales.
Re: 8-Bit + 6 String = NES Guitar
That's pretty cool, but the best console guitar has to be MegaDriver's Mega Drive guitar. You can find videos of it on YouTube.
Re: Miyamoto: "F-Zero Could Work on Wii U"
@Ben_Rage_V2
I was the same. I appreciate the amount of content in GX, but I just didn't get the same enjoyment out of it, maybe it was the learning curve. Also X had way more style.
F-Zero is a good game to show off Wii U's power, I hope they make one, and make it online.
The problem with Miyamoto, and Nintendo in general is they are so committed to making new experiences, that they won't bother revisting old franchises if they can't think of something new to add to it.
I wish they'd realise that most fans are happy with more of the same, and start making DLC for their games.
Re: Miyamoto Keen On New Zelda Based on Link to the Past
If he keeps this up, they're gonna have to make something.
Link to the Past is an excellent game. I can see how 3D would make multi-leveled rooms that much better. The parts where you're running around on walkways upstairs but can see monsters in the rooms below.
Re: Talking Point: Is Nintendo Over-Reliant on Super Mario?
Yes because core fans want something new.
No because they still sell and get Nintendo out of the s**t when hardware sales are down.
They need to start launching their systems with Mario titles again. It pretty much secures their future, then they can roll out the other IPs later on.
Re: Namco, SEGA and Capcom Reveal Project X Zone
Of course it's an RPG...
Re: Feature: The Super Mario Renaissance
Everyone seems to have differing opinions on which games were the best.
Testament to the broad appeal of the series. That's the main reason Mario games are the best, anyone can play them.
The new games are getting easier, but the fun is still there. That's all that matters to me at the end of the day.
Re: Rumour: ViviTouch to Demo Wii U Haptics Tech at E3
Pointless.
Re: Nintendo: "Experience of Playing", Not Tech Specs, Key to Wii U
I'll take that as a confirmation of it not being super powerful.
I didn't have my hopes up anyway, they were never gonna outgun Sony and Microsoft.
If it can play HD games, that's enough for me. I don't see graphics getting much better anyway.
Re: Talking Point: Is Wii U's Power Really That Important?
The whole graphics race is heading to a dead end anyway.
Digital Distribution is where it's at. Smaller games at a fraction of the price, giving you twice as much fun. They're made with a passion and creativity that you just don't see in most retail games anymore.
But on that front, if Nintendo can make their games look amazing, then that is all that matters. With PS3 levels of power and HD I think it's entirely possible, given what they achieved on the Wii.
Besides, I'm still not convinced 'next gen' graphics will look that much better anyway.
Re: Ubisoft Wants to Be Top Dog on Wii U
Didn't Ubisoft come over all humble and apologetic after they admitted their Wii Launch games were rushed and promised to make quality games from henceforth?
I hope they learnt their lesson.
Re: April's Club Nintendo Rewards Are Now Available
UH! ExciteBike for 200 coins!
Don't ever tell me Europe has it better for rewards>downloads.
Re: SEGA to Cancel Games, Focus on Existing IP
They could save some money by making more straight retro sequels for download services.
Streets of Rage 4, Golden Axe 4, etc. Use the same engine and graphics, just create new levels. I'm sure it would sell.
Re: Nintendo Download: 29th March 2012 (North America)
2 Fast 4 Gnomz demo! Yay!
Re: GAME Enters Administration, Closes 277 Stores
It is a shame to see GAME, GameStation, Electronics Boutique, and GamePlay all taken out in one fell swoop.
So what is the future for video game retail in the UK? Are there any specialists left on the highstreet now?
Will GameStop move in? :/
Re: Feature: The Mistakes of the 3DS Launch
Most important thing for Nintendo: launch with a Mario game.
Also have an online service ready to go.
Re: Vigil Games: "Wii U On Par with Current-Gen Consoles"
I don't know what's going to happen. All I know is graphics can't really get much better than what they are now.
If they do, development costs will be astronomical, and the retail market will become even more stagnant or collapse altogether.
Re: Talking Point: Why Wii U's Image Must Grab Attention
@shingi_70 Black doesn't look good, it's borrrrrrrrrriiinnngg.
I can see why interior designers and image conscious people like it, but I need colour in my life.
Re: Talking Point: Why Wii U's Image Must Grab Attention
^ This.
Re: Talking Point: Why Wii U's Image Must Grab Attention
I think a good compromise would be silver, it's pretty neutral, but a bit more interesting than white or black. Just so long as it's not black only, I've got enough black devices in my room. Plus it wouldn't stand out from the other consoles at all.
Personally I'd want it bright red.
Re: Surprise! Disney Announces Epic Mickey 2 for Wii
The Wii is getting a whole new game?? Now this IS news!
Re: New Frogger Title Hops Onto WiiWare This Spring
Frogger has had 25 sequels. That's more than Mario or The Legend of Zelda series.
Although I am enticed by the prospect of multiplayer...
CURSE YOU FROGGER!
Re: Rumour: Ubisoft to Bring Your Shape to Wii U
First of many fitness games for WiiU? DUN DUN DUNNN
Re: Exclusive: Tons of PAL WiiWare Demos to Return This Month
That's good. A little late but I look forward to it.
I hope they get their act together with WiiU Ware Demos.
Re: Battlefield 3 and NES Sounds Are Finally Together
I love 8-bit music. They were so limited with sounds and effects that they had to make sure the composition was awesome, and most of the time it was. There were exceptions though of course.
I think most people in the UK say the word 'NES', whereas a lot of people in the States say 'N.E.S'.
I agree 'a N.E.S' sounds weird, 'an NES' also sounds weird.
Re: Feature: Obscure Series That Should Return on Wii U
My wishlist of retro returns is endless.
If Nintendo could just give us new Star Fox and F-Zero I'd be happy.
Viewtiful Joe with 2 (or more) player is also something I'd like to see.
Re: SEGA Drops Four Sonic Games from Japanese VC
HD versions are coming to WiiU I expect. I don't know if that's the reason for these game removals, but I would hope they give people free upgrades who already have the standard definition games.
Re: Kid Icarus Uprising Gets Perfect Review Score in Famitsu
Bayonetta, Nintendogs and NSMBW scored higher in Famitsu than Super Mario 64 and Zelda ALttP.
:/
Also there's only one western game with a perfect score and it's Skyrim.
:/ :/
Nothing against Kid Icarus, but I take this with a pinch of salt.
Re: Rumour: Donkey Kong 3D Swinging Into View
@Koops3 Yes! I want to see another platformer from Good-Feel. Epic Yarn was awesome (aside from the lack of death).
Re: Feature: Nintendo's Motion Revolution
Tilt controls and pointer controls work well. Swinging motion controls not so much I think. They give you a unique experience, but it's nothing like virtual reality so just becomes a bit of a chore imo.
The Wii remote is a neat idea and very relaxing to use when you're using the nunchuck and not swinging it about. However it lacked certain things that have become standard for a lot of games these days. If I could re design it, I would have a small diamond button layout on the remote, a second stick (or thumbpad) instead of the D-pad, and I would rename all the buttons so they make more sense and give them colours.
Also I'd make sure each remote comes WITH a nunchuck. No more of this forced sideways remote crap.
Re: Keiji Inafune Gives Rallying Call to Japanese Developers
Breaking into the mainstream is hard no matter where you're from. Brand power and hype isn't something you can program into your game no matter how good it is.
Personally I preferred Japanese games in the 80s and 90s when they primarily made platformers. Now it mostly seems to be RPGs and Beat em ups, which are my two least favourite genres. I don't mind quirky stuff, or mad Japanese culture themes, but it's got to have gameplay that is fun and not repetitive.
Re: Super Mario Galaxy Blasts Past 5 Million Milestone
I hope the fact that NSMBW outsold Galaxy doesn't mean the end of 3D Marios.
I love both games, but Galaxy is one of the few decent 3D platformers left on the market.