"We WiiU owners wanted the NEW games that were coming to the ps360 in 2012/13 not ports of old games with less content."
Why on earth would developers waste time or money developing titles for the Wii U, with its 5 million or so owners at that time, when they could make games for the 360 and PS3 who had a combined 160 million owners?
There's is no logical reason.
Especially when, as you said, many people already owned a PS3/360 anyway.
Ya I don't understand this guy either. I'd rather have a system with an over abundance of games, some of which I may not always want to play, rather than a console that only has one installment of a series and then leaves me hanging for 5-6 years before I can play another.
He also seems to consider each Nintendo 2D platformer which features a different main character (Kirby, yoshi, DK, Mario, Luigi, Rayman, etc) as a completely new and unique experience, while lumping together games like Last of Us, Tomb Raider, Batman and Gears of War as 'third person shooters' and dismissing them all as being the same kind of game..
People like this are unwilling to change their beliefs and don't even want to try playing different games, so there is no reason in engaging in a debate with them.
"Whats up with blaming the customers for the lack of sales. All that mean is the software isn't compelling in the first place..."
No, it just means that people who generally buy Nintendo consoles do not like the types of games that other developers produce. For example, see the post from the dude above my previous one. He only enjoys rainbow-colored games featuring children's cartoon characters and doesn't like anything else.
"As long as the big "AAA" publishers keep relying upon endless franchise entries and similarly-themed games I'm not buying their stuff"
I hope the irony doesn't escape you when you are playing the latest Star Fox game or the dozens of other retreads on Nintendo. Good lord...
There are great games available on all the consoles. I don't understand how someone's tastes can be so narrow as to only believe that Nintendo games are of any worth.
The gamepad was fine for Zombi U because the game was pretty slow paced and didn't require fast movements. I couldn't imagine playing a fast paced action game like Bayonetta while using it though.
Also, buying a bad game just to "support the team" doesn't really help the cause. Just buy a game because you like it and want to play it, not out of some sense of guilt or duty.
The video I posted shows the framerate was running at 20fps during sea battles/sailing, which make up a large portion of the game. Sure it's still playable, but it is jarring and annoying (especially when many people on here mock PS4/Xbox games for sometimes being locked to 30fps).
Devils Third has slowdown as well apparently, but people seem unwilling to overlook this fact when it comes to this game though. The game still looks playable (frame rate wise at least) during those firefights which slow the action on screen though.
You might be the King of Butts, but your ability to visually determine the resolution and frame rate of games is lacking when compared to the facts Digital Foundry lays out. You were proven wrong. Deal with it.
Many people have either fragments or entire bullets left in their bodies after getting shot. Sometimes removing them is more risky and can cause more damage than just leaving them in there. Ideally it's something that you would rather not have left in your body if you had the choice, but leaving them in, depending on the situation, isn't always a bad choice.
Then you aren't very perceptive. Hop in the boat and try battling enemies or sail through a storm and the frame rate drops by half. It's horrible, and it happens often.
The point is that any time you were in combat or a storm in Windwaker HD, the game suffered horrendous frame rate slowdown. How this managed to slip under Nintendo's radar without being fixed is beyond me.
Just curious to find out what a middle aged Japanese business man could inspire you to become. Did you become an American high school student? Or are you now a CEO?
Don't worry. I have a source who told me that the reason third party games aren't coming to the Wii U is because those studios are already busy secretly designing games for the NX.
I think once it launches, there will be an incredible amount of third party titles available for it on day one.
"If Nintendo made a console that is as powerful as the other two, and gave it a regular gamepad, they would not succeed. People would have no reason to buy a Nintendo console over the more established competitors, save for a few Ninty exclusives."
Sorry, but the only reason 10 million people bought a Wii U is to PLAY NINTENDO GAMES. The games are selling people on the system, not the gimmicky and poorly implemented gamepad.
Other than the Wii, which was a flash in the pan global phenomenon (which has since passed), the only reason people buy a Nintendo-made console is for the first party offerings.
A powerful console that could potentially play the big third party titles (assuming they decided to return to Nintendo) AND first party exclusives could be very popular.
As you previously stated, companies like EA, Bethesda, Ubisoft, Activision, etc have been busy spending the last couple years developing games for the NX. Once it launches, it should have a lot of third party support...right??
"most of which seem to have been a result of famed Belgian console modder Vadu Amka jokingly tweeting that she was responsible for creating the system"
She's nowhere near as famous as Aguilar Sanchez, the renowned Mexican console modder. I would even put her skills below those of Suliman Abdul Mohammed, the fantastic console modder from Sudan.
Basement coders made emulators for pretty much every console from Atari to 16-bit that work almost perfectly on my Wii, yet Nintendo still pretends it is some painstaking process getting these games up and working.
When people say the PS4 (or Xbox) are the most powerful, they are only comparing those three consoles. No one believes any of those systems is more powerful than a PC, so you constantly bringing up that point is meaningless.
The PS4 IS the most powerful current home console. Deal with it. It is a fact.
But when a new home console launches, they usually come at the end of another systems lifespan, with all the companies putting out new hardware within a year or so of each other.
Nintendo seemingly releasing a new console while their competitors machines haven't even peaked yet is a new scenario for them.
If you are against practicing homosexual acts, you will never get better at them. Don't give up! It may seem difficult at first but with enough practice you will be able to compete with the best.
Reggie - "So we realize that your games sell like crap on our consoles, we are coming off the massive flop known as the Wii U which has destroyed consumer confidence in our home console brand, and that when the NX comes out both the PS4/Xbox will have a combined 60-80 million owners and still be going strong.
However...we would like you to invest money and resources into producing games for our newest console which has no owners. What do you say?"
When the graphics are great like in MK8, Smash Bros, etc, people praise them constantly. When the graphics are seemingly disappointing, they will criticize them.
"Why does it matter whether Kamiya is invovled? Platinum is a large studio with many cabaple creators, he is just one figurehead"
Ya, lets not pretend that every time a new Nintendo game comes out that is being designed/produced by Miyamoto that this point isn't hammered into our brains in every article about it.
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Re: Talking Point: Wii U Gamers Have Been Treated Poorly By The Third-Party Retail Scene, But The System Still Brings Joy
@readyletsgo
"We WiiU owners wanted the NEW games that were coming to the ps360 in 2012/13 not ports of old games with less content."
Why on earth would developers waste time or money developing titles for the Wii U, with its 5 million or so owners at that time, when they could make games for the 360 and PS3 who had a combined 160 million owners?
There's is no logical reason.
Especially when, as you said, many people already owned a PS3/360 anyway.
Re: Talking Point: Wii U Gamers Have Been Treated Poorly By The Third-Party Retail Scene, But The System Still Brings Joy
@arnoldlayne83
Ya I don't understand this guy either. I'd rather have a system with an over abundance of games, some of which I may not always want to play, rather than a console that only has one installment of a series and then leaves me hanging for 5-6 years before I can play another.
He also seems to consider each Nintendo 2D platformer which features a different main character (Kirby, yoshi, DK, Mario, Luigi, Rayman, etc) as a completely new and unique experience, while lumping together games like Last of Us, Tomb Raider, Batman and Gears of War as 'third person shooters' and dismissing them all as being the same kind of game..
People like this are unwilling to change their beliefs and don't even want to try playing different games, so there is no reason in engaging in a debate with them.
Re: Talking Point: Wii U Gamers Have Been Treated Poorly By The Third-Party Retail Scene, But The System Still Brings Joy
@Malakai
"Whats up with blaming the customers for the lack of sales. All that mean is the software isn't compelling in the first place..."
No, it just means that people who generally buy Nintendo consoles do not like the types of games that other developers produce. For example, see the post from the dude above my previous one. He only enjoys rainbow-colored games featuring children's cartoon characters and doesn't like anything else.
Re: Talking Point: Wii U Gamers Have Been Treated Poorly By The Third-Party Retail Scene, But The System Still Brings Joy
@Sean_Aaron
"As long as the big "AAA" publishers keep relying upon endless franchise entries and similarly-themed games I'm not buying their stuff"
I hope the irony doesn't escape you when you are playing the latest Star Fox game or the dozens of other retreads on Nintendo. Good lord...
There are great games available on all the consoles. I don't understand how someone's tastes can be so narrow as to only believe that Nintendo games are of any worth.
Re: Tomonobu Itagaki Explains Why the Pro Controller Trumps the GamePad in Devil's Third
The gamepad was fine for Zombi U because the game was pretty slow paced and didn't require fast movements. I couldn't imagine playing a fast paced action game like Bayonetta while using it though.
Re: First Impressions: Trying to Believe in Devil's Third
@LztheQuack
Respek
Also, buying a bad game just to "support the team" doesn't really help the cause. Just buy a game because you like it and want to play it, not out of some sense of guilt or duty.
Re: First Impressions: Trying to Believe in Devil's Third
@VeeFlamesNL
The video I posted shows the framerate was running at 20fps during sea battles/sailing, which make up a large portion of the game. Sure it's still playable, but it is jarring and annoying (especially when many people on here mock PS4/Xbox games for sometimes being locked to 30fps).
Devils Third has slowdown as well apparently, but people seem unwilling to overlook this fact when it comes to this game though. The game still looks playable (frame rate wise at least) during those firefights which slow the action on screen though.
Re: First Impressions: Trying to Believe in Devil's Third
@DiscoGentleman
You might be the King of Butts, but your ability to visually determine the resolution and frame rate of games is lacking when compared to the facts Digital Foundry lays out. You were proven wrong. Deal with it.
Re: First Impressions: Trying to Believe in Devil's Third
@kensredemption
That's not being very festive.
@TheRealThanos
Not true at all.
Many people have either fragments or entire bullets left in their bodies after getting shot. Sometimes removing them is more risky and can cause more damage than just leaving them in there. Ideally it's something that you would rather not have left in your body if you had the choice, but leaving them in, depending on the situation, isn't always a bad choice.
Re: First Impressions: Trying to Believe in Devil's Third
@Faruko
Merely making the point that some people are willing to overlook frame rate slowdown, depending on the game
Re: First Impressions: Trying to Believe in Devil's Third
Am I correct in assuming those tutorial button prompts are able to be turned off?
Re: First Impressions: Trying to Believe in Devil's Third
@Luna_110
Watch the Windwaker video I posted. The frame rate was 20fps at sea. It's undeniable.
It's not my copy, it's all copies. If you can't see the difference, maybe you wouldn't notice any problems with Devil's Third either.
Re: First Impressions: Trying to Believe in Devil's Third
@DiscoGentleman
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-hands-on-with-bayonetta-2
It's neither 1080p (it's 720p) nor is it locked at 60fps (it's 40fps much of the time).
Stop exaggerating the "visuals" talk.
Re: First Impressions: Trying to Believe in Devil's Third
@Luna_110
Then you aren't very perceptive. Hop in the boat and try battling enemies or sail through a storm and the frame rate drops by half. It's horrible, and it happens often.
Re: First Impressions: Trying to Believe in Devil's Third
@VeeFlamesNL
The point is that any time you were in combat or a storm in Windwaker HD, the game suffered horrendous frame rate slowdown. How this managed to slip under Nintendo's radar without being fixed is beyond me.
Re: First Impressions: Trying to Believe in Devil's Third
Thank god Nintendo has never made/published a game before that suffers from horrible frame rate issues
Re: Multiple Sources Point to Nintendo of America U-Turn on Publishing Devil's Third
@MadAdam81
Or maybe Unseen64 was right all along, and you are just doing mental gymnastics to support your belief that he was wrong about everything?
Re: First Impressions: Trying to Believe in Devil's Third
Thanks Obama!
Re: NPD Results Deliver a 3DS Milestone And Modest Wii U Sales
@Mr_Nose
LOL!
Re: MEGABytes to Blend a Cafe and Arcade Together in Glasgow
I think a better name for this establishment would be "The House of Sausage"
Re: Nintendo President Satoru Iwata Passes Away Aged 55
@allav866
Who are you today?
Just curious to find out what a middle aged Japanese business man could inspire you to become. Did you become an American high school student? Or are you now a CEO?
Re: Nintendo President Satoru Iwata Passes Away Aged 55
Wow, bummer. Seemed like a good dude.
Not totally shocking though as he was obviously very ill due to his rapid weight loss.
Re: Video: This News Anchor Sure Is Excited About Super Mario Maker
"When Nintendo of America tweets a link to a TV news segment, we're normally inclined to shrug it off. "
HAHAHA WHAT?!!
I'm pretty sure you guys posted an entire article based around the fact some reporter referred to a 3DS as a 'Gameboy' in a newspaper one time.
Re: Talking Point: Raw Power Isn't Vital to Nintendo's NX, But It Does Matter
@DESS-M-8
Don't worry. I have a source who told me that the reason third party games aren't coming to the Wii U is because those studios are already busy secretly designing games for the NX.
I think once it launches, there will be an incredible amount of third party titles available for it on day one.
Re: Talking Point: Raw Power Isn't Vital to Nintendo's NX, But It Does Matter
It's not the size of the boat, it's the motion of the ocean
Re: Rumour: Nintendo NX Won't Be As Powerful As PlayStation 4
@JohnyVang1982
Nintendo also said that 'third parties liked the Wii U'
Only an absolute moron believes anything this company says anymore.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo NX Won't Be As Powerful As PlayStation 4
@Mommar
Ignoring the fact that the Gamecube was the lone system that could not read or play DVD's.
Nintendo is always behind the ball.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo NX Won't Be As Powerful As PlayStation 4
@Moshugan
"If Nintendo made a console that is as powerful as the other two, and gave it a regular gamepad, they would not succeed. People would have no reason to buy a Nintendo console over the more established competitors, save for a few Ninty exclusives."
Sorry, but the only reason 10 million people bought a Wii U is to PLAY NINTENDO GAMES. The games are selling people on the system, not the gimmicky and poorly implemented gamepad.
Other than the Wii, which was a flash in the pan global phenomenon (which has since passed), the only reason people buy a Nintendo-made console is for the first party offerings.
A powerful console that could potentially play the big third party titles (assuming they decided to return to Nintendo) AND first party exclusives could be very popular.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo NX Won't Be As Powerful As PlayStation 4
@DESS-M-8
Don't worry.
As you previously stated, companies like EA, Bethesda, Ubisoft, Activision, etc have been busy spending the last couple years developing games for the NX. Once it launches, it should have a lot of third party support...right??
Re: The Man Who Found The SNES PlayStation Thinks It Will Probably Be Sold
Why do people keep saying this belongs in a museum?? Who would care about it outside of video game fans?
"Honey, let's go see the dinosaurs, the Egyptian mummies, meteor fragments and the prototype Play Station at the Smithsonian this weekend"
Never mind the fact that everyone saying this, even if it was in a museum, would in all likelihood never get a chance to see it there anyway.
Re: The Man Who Found The SNES PlayStation Thinks It Will Probably Be Sold
"most of which seem to have been a result of famed Belgian console modder Vadu Amka jokingly tweeting that she was responsible for creating the system"
She's nowhere near as famous as Aguilar Sanchez, the renowned Mexican console modder. I would even put her skills below those of Suliman Abdul Mohammed, the fantastic console modder from Sudan.
Re: We Can't Release Virtual Console Games Any Faster As It Would Impact New Development, Says Iwata
Basement coders made emulators for pretty much every console from Atari to 16-bit that work almost perfectly on my Wii, yet Nintendo still pretends it is some painstaking process getting these games up and working.
Re: Super Mario Maker Won't Filter Your Naughty Levels, But Offensive Content Can Be Reported
"Purple Mushroom World"
Re: ​Shigeru Miyamoto Defends Star Fox Zero's Controls
@shinesprite
Are those the days where the manual said 'press A to shoot and B to jump'?
Sounds like this control scheme is a little bit different.
Re: ​Shigeru Miyamoto Defends Star Fox Zero's Controls
I think he confused 'complex' with 'convoluted'
Re: Talking Point: The Mystery of Devil's Third and Its Drift Away from the Spotlight
@RegalSin
Re: Nintendo Reportedly Pitched NX To Third Parties During E3 2015
@IceClimbers
Exactly.
As you just admitted, the PS4 is the most powerful of three weak consoles.
So when Sony says 'we have the most powerful console', they are telling the truth.
Glad you finally understand.
Re: Nintendo Reportedly Pitched NX To Third Parties During E3 2015
@IceClimbers
How many dedicated home consoles are there?
Three.
Of those, which is the most powerful?
PS4.
When people say the PS4 (or Xbox) are the most powerful, they are only comparing those three consoles. No one believes any of those systems is more powerful than a PC, so you constantly bringing up that point is meaningless.
The PS4 IS the most powerful current home console. Deal with it. It is a fact.
Re: Nintendo Reportedly Pitched NX To Third Parties During E3 2015
@Mona-Reggie
But when a new home console launches, they usually come at the end of another systems lifespan, with all the companies putting out new hardware within a year or so of each other.
Nintendo seemingly releasing a new console while their competitors machines haven't even peaked yet is a new scenario for them.
Re: Nintendo Life Weekly: F-Zero Wii U, Octolings, and Same-Sex Marriage
@Bass_X0
If you are against practicing homosexual acts, you will never get better at them. Don't give up! It may seem difficult at first but with enough practice you will be able to compete with the best.
Re: Nintendo Reportedly Pitched NX To Third Parties During E3 2015
This is how the conversation went...
Reggie - "So we realize that your games sell like crap on our consoles, we are coming off the massive flop known as the Wii U which has destroyed consumer confidence in our home console brand, and that when the NX comes out both the PS4/Xbox will have a combined 60-80 million owners and still be going strong.
However...we would like you to invest money and resources into producing games for our newest console which has no owners. What do you say?"
Third Parties - "I think we will take a pass"
Re: Nintendo Life Weekly: F-Zero Wii U, Octolings, and Same-Sex Marriage
@NintendoFan64
Don't worry about it. It was just another joke that would have gone over your head!
Re: Nintendo Life Weekly: F-Zero Wii U, Octolings, and Same-Sex Marriage
And comments being locked in 3...2...
Re: Nintendo Life Weekly: F-Zero Wii U, Octolings, and Same-Sex Marriage
Please, stay classy-Morpheel
Re: Nintendo Life Weekly: F-Zero Wii U, Octolings, and Same-Sex Marriage
Hopefully I can display a Confederate Flag during my Fire Emblem gay wedding
Re: Former Nintendo "Gamemaster" Howard Phillips Joins Mobile Studio GameDuell
@Grimlock_King
Name one thing he has accomplished since he left Nintendo in 1991 that proves he has something to give that Nintendo is currently missing?
Re: Video: Avert Your Eyes, This Japanese Animal Crossing Commercial Features Shameful Groping
Re: Nintendo Gets Tough With Miiverse Bans, and Some Users Aren't Exactly Pleased
Drawing a picture of Toad and making the top of his head look like a phallus is no grounds for a banning.
Re: Hands On: Logging More Flight Time With Star Fox Zero
@Goginho
When the graphics are great like in MK8, Smash Bros, etc, people praise them constantly. When the graphics are seemingly disappointing, they will criticize them.
The pendulum swings both ways.
Re: Hands On: Logging More Flight Time With Star Fox Zero
@ACK
"Why does it matter whether Kamiya is invovled? Platinum is a large studio with many cabaple creators, he is just one figurehead"
Ya, lets not pretend that every time a new Nintendo game comes out that is being designed/produced by Miyamoto that this point isn't hammered into our brains in every article about it.