Hardy83

Probably a mix of 3DS, VERY poor software support (even by Nintendo), the fact it's a 6 year old system and it's probably just reach as many people as you're going to reach, probably a dabble in Apple taking some sales away from them.

Either way, they are still profiting on it, not losing. And the 3DS will sell millions so Nintendo isn't going broke any time soon.

I sure it would be in Nintendo's best interest to get it out in all regions by Christmas. However there are so many factors to consider.

Price
Stock
Manufacturing speed
Software support
Marketing plans
Development times

Is the system even fully done? (Psst put two cameras on the inside, if you don't you're REALLY REALLY stupid NIntendo)
Will there be enough system to meet world demand?

And I'm probably missing a million and a half other issues that could determine the launch date.

Enjoy the VC while you can. It'll probably be another 2-3 months before we see another. Lol

I don't think that's the first time one of their trailers had a mouse cursor on it. lol

Also good game, get it and hope for a sequel.

Also I'm happy to see sales numbers for a Nintendo digital platform in some form.
Assuming Nintendo takes a cut on par with other similar digital platforms you're a pretty comfortable company. Nothing amazing, but still impressive.

Nintendo doesn't allow third parties to touch the SD card, and they are pretty crazy restrictive with online too. I'm amazed some third party games have online play.

Yey, most stuff that should be built into a system being used to sell something else.

No, going to retail is smart, look at how well games sell when a system launches? Many DS and Wii games were garbage when they came out, but sold a million (Carnival Games) because there wasn't really any other choices.
For 3DS coming out with a simple, kind friendly looking 3D at launch they are guaranteed to do better then their digital games.
Also, I imagine with how poor their online system is, they would rather support retail more? lol Nintendo really needs to explain how they plan to improve their online services.

My guess is if the 3DS comes out in 2010 Nintendo wouldn't allow them to mention that in a press release.

They could just rerelease Chrono Cross on different platforms since many people didn't play that one.

@Bigby if you honestly though it would take longer than a day you're looking at the wrong platform. WiiWare games are never that long except on rare occasions.

Piracy and homebrew are always linked together because you need one to get to the other.
You don't JUST pirate a system without having homebrew. Which sucks because it just hurts those homebrewers are are making what I consider legitimate software for it. I think this would be remedied if Nintendo, as many people have already stated, eased up on who can make and what can be made on their digital stores.

This is where I think where Nintendo should use online. Pushing updates, and pushing checks on the system whenever the system is near a Wifi signal. Yeah, I think every 3DS should constantly check if the system has been modded and FORCE the person to update or remove the modded software or lose access to all online functions of the system and possibly more.

Course Nintendo needs to fix their pricing structure and reasons why people pirate in the first place. Cost of games (Hi DSiWare) and region access to games, i.e, bring more games over like Soma Bringer.

Iwata: It's totally the crap games that hurt the industry. We're personally not going to do anything about it even though the Wii currently has the most shovelware there is. It would be rude of us to implement some sort of quality assurance for games doing to the system as some of our games wouldn't even pass but it's totally the reason why.

Nintendo is still new to DLC. I mean their only real game with DLC is Animal Crossing and it's just stupid items now and again, so don't expect quality DLC like what Rockstar does for their games or Besthesda or however you say their name.
Just like HD, just like online, I expect Nintendo to be behind when it comes to DLC by a generation or two.

Though, at least we can expect most of it to be free if they do make DLC.

One of the MANY MANY reasons Nintendo's online structure is absolute garbage and YEARS behind when compared to competition.

I stand by my opinion that DSiWare and Wii have THE worst online structure I've ever experienced in a video game system, that includes computers.

Nintendo does amazing things, but online is not one of them. Obviously I would love for them to change that.

3D will probably be much more affordable when Nintendo finally releases a new system in like 10 years. lol
Nintendo plays catch up because they have cost in mind. 3D will be cheap when they finally support it. Just like HD.

Downloading games from a store would be awesome, but unless Nintendo changes their set up to one more similar to PSN where purchases are bound to an account and not the system, I am not buying anymore digital content from Nintendo.

Boy and his blob in 3D will be so pretty.

Sports resort would've been a fine Pilot Wings substitute if it didn't have that stupid stupid timer.

I don't care about the visuals for this game. Is there an actual evolution in gameplay that the series HASN'T seen for a decade.

Doesn't matter who's fault it is anymore (personally it's everyones)
Third party Wii games don't sell that well and devs/publishers no longer want to take the risk for big games anymore. So we're going to see more and more watered down ports until Nintendo's next system.

I feel bad for people who buy this and then eventually see a new system on the shelf less than 6 months later.

I'll remain skeptical. I find it hard to believe the 3DS is as powerful as the 360 or PS3. If it is, I think the battery would take a huge hit, unless Nintendo plans for this thing to be like the DSiXL and be a household device.

I would believe Gamecube graphics more than this rumour.

I thought Black Knight was great, only hindered by the extremely moronic choice to have the waggle be the sword swing.

US is always last because NoA likes to milk everything.

I imagine this is because E3 will be announcing the 3DS and show it off.

I agree that Nintendo's dominance will flounder next generation...However I think the reasons are far more complex than just the (really really stupid) Ipad.

Glad I gave up on Nintendo's online service. Too many weeks being dissapointed over being excited.

I remember when Reggie was talking about how WiiWare and DSiWare will be about quality and not quantity. That games will be better overall than say the App store or other services....Yeah....I don't remember him saying anything about their online content recently.

OMG I would love that!

Complicated controls? The Zelda 3D series has had some of the best controls of any game, they have never been overly complicated.

How stupid do they think Nintendo players are?
I mean auto jump, auto lock, simple item mapping to buttons...It's incredibly easy.

Meh, I guess I've been visually spoiled by PSP and Iphone games. It looks pretty bleh, but a MILLION times better than any past Pokemon games though.

Some people know me. Some people know what I think about Nintendo's online pricing structure.

I'm gonna go over and play my 5 dollar Resident Evil and Dino Crisis on PSN, maybe play my 99 cent Dragon's Lair and Duke Nukem on my Ipod Touch.

Enjoy your 5 dollar NES game. lol Well it may be a good game at least.

I don't know what some of you are talking about, this game looks a 100 times better then the muddy crap that was the old version of this game.
I think it looks like a very competent fighter....I will admit not having online will hurt it.. A LOT, but this game doesn't seem to be targeted towards us but parents and kids.
I hope it sells because I want HVS to earn money so they can fund their bigger projects.

@JimLad You'd be surprised how clueless some parents are.
Also this would probably help sales if anything, since they would see the ocean of games not labeled for kids and see this one that specifically says kids.

@opeter Yeah there are too many, but that's what you get for buying a system where the majority of the owners are mothers and kids. I bet the kid game to "core" game on the DS is massively in favour of the kids games too.

Wii Music blew, they should've had a composer and an online sharing system.
I expect this to have the same feeling of "Promising but could have x feature to make it awesome."

"@Hardy83: Investors aren't as important to Nintendo as most companies though because of the fact that Yamauchi owns a lot(the majority?) of Nintendo."

Yamauchi is still an investor, Nintendo still has other investors. Nintendo is a openly traded company.
They are the ones that back Nintendo with funding and stock value, they matter just as much as any other company.
If Iwata said something along the lines of what you said, I bet you within a month he'd be out the door.

And yes, 2.4 billion is a lot, but a drop in half a billion is a lot also.

But I wouldn't worry, Nintendo always has tricks up it's sleeve. In fact I bet you anything the HD Wii or Wii 2 is already done and their just waiting for profits to drop even more. On top of the 3DS probably coming out this year.

Yeah, making 2.4 billion is a lot for you but you try and tell investors it's no big deal profits dropped half a billion dollars.

At least it means this year we'll see kickin' stuff from Nintendo, since their best software and hardware are released when they start getting hungry for more money.

So a third party core game succeeds... To bad it'll still be rare since the amount of time and money used to promote the game is well beyond that of most publishers save Capcom and Ubisoft.

But good for Capcom. I hope it makes them lots of money.

Wiiware debs try harder, as they only have one or two games to rely on an income.
Also the financial investment is Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay lower then retail.

I'm impressed with the graphics. For a 40mb game.

"Hmm, strange. What sort of "technical issues" could there possibly be?"

The technical issues is, should we devlop this game for the DS when the 3DS is right around the corner?

Imagine a beautiful looking 3D Final Fantasy VI....drool if that came out at launch I would get the system for that game alone.

You can play both the Japanese and Americans. Though because it's a trilogy I don't know if one has more attention than the other in this.

Yeah, they asked for a price from us and we all said 700-800 because Legendo isn't as big as Nintendo or say the World of Goo guys, but unfortunately Nintendo will probably stell them it's a 1000-1500 point game. I'll still get it.

"Uh? Why there is a mouse cursor in the inferior right part of the video? XD" HAHAHAHA I didn't see that before...Someone forgot to move the mouse when recording footage! lol

"Does anyone know the controls used? (i.e. wiimote, nunchuk, classic controller, or gamecube controller)"

I can't remember exactly what the controls were but there were multiple choices. I believe classic controller was one of them. They learned their lessons from Three Musketeers.

I rarely use WiiWare now, but I"ll get this to show my support. It looks fun!

1. What were their expectations?

2. What did it sell?

I'm sure either way it made money for them, but I want to see the numbers. I doubt it would be comparable to a PS3 or 360 successful launch, but I'm curious what a big developer considers a success on the Wii, since none of us really know.

It's something I guess, but they need to promote the service itself more as well.

Also the best thing they could do would be to have users rate the games they own, similar to how Apple does it, with a 1 to 5 star system. I bet that would filter out the crap cause I can't imagine anyone giving games like Cave Story lower than a 4 star.

My issue with pricing is with Wii compared to PS3 (excluding Home ingame purchases, man some of that stupid is stupid overpriced). I don't own a 360 so I can't comment on XBLA games, though I can imagine I would give XBLA game more credit due to their size/length and visual/audio quality compared to that ever so stupid 40MB limit that forces any decent game to look like a 64 game or a side scroller.

To those saying that 54% of Wiis may be bigger than all PS3s or 360s online, maybe, but it's still 54% penetration and that is flat out pathetic.

I don't see Netflix fixing this as it accesses the Internet on it's own more than going into Nintendo's online system, or at leats the issues I have with the system, showing numbers might make some people feel better.

It's easy really, Wiis online system is garbage compared to the others.

1. There is no user friendly interface, it's old, outdated and clunky compared to others. The Wii is about being user friendly so the online functions are totally foreign to many users.

2. NoA doesn't promote it. A little phamplet in some of their games. That's it. I imagine most people don't even know it's there.

3. No content. There are many good wiiware and vc games, but people who go online see barebones, ps3 and 360 have demos, videos, avatar areas, messaging, game dlc, movies and more. So these people go on a few times and gets bored. A shame for those good wiiware games.

4. Pricing. This issues is moe toward dsiware than wiiware but some games cost just too much.

5. Restrictions. This kind of recalls back to one, but a 40mb size restriction, limits to online play and friend codes and more, they all add up to an inferior online experience.

There are many more opinions that can be added, however I place no blame on the consumer or debs at all. For this part of the Wii I put all blame on Nintendo. They just flat out made a crap online system that people either don't know about or don't care to use.

You can blame no adverts, but be aware that most Nintendo games have next to none (like the new pokemon games) and they are in top place.

I've seen more prerolls, print and web ads than most Nintendo games save resort, nsmbwii and rythem whatever.

Just adopt Sony and Apples payment method already! The whole point system is horribly outdated. I'm looking at you too Microsoft!

To be honest even Nintendo game don't sell was well anymore on the DS let alone 3rd parties.

I mean the new Zelda probably sold around a million, which is good, but not Nintendo good.

I would assume it's a mix of the market just being abolutely flooded with games good and bad, piracy and just lack of interest for the system.
His complaints lay with his experience as a developer for the DS. He's staying it'll be the same if Nintendo does some things... Well I imagine 3rd parties will make money in the beginning, but like DS and Wii after a few years it'll be the same thing over again.

I knew it. I mean their are adopting Apples way of doing handheld devices and doing an update every year with one big one every now and then.

I'll probably get it, but the lite version, I JUST got a DSi last winter, I'm not made of money.

Also I expect the 3D will be just like that DSiWare game, but I'm sure the embedded cameras will be better (Hopefully at least ONE megapixel lol) to follow your head better in various lighting conditions.
3D is neat, but adding a field of depth to a game is a much better way to do 3D gaming. Imagine if GTA or any open world game had depth? mmmm