As a fan, it makes me yearn for a BK game that looks as great as they did in this trailer. Since Perfect Dark is getting a reboot and Battletoads has already, I have hope that Banjo and Kazooie won't go forgotten for that much longer.
Ehhhhh.... sure. It's a good game and is definitely quality, I just thought there were games that were either better gameplay-wise (Ghost of Tsushima) or better defined the year this was (Animal Crossing). Regardless, congrats Naughty Dog.
This seems like such a non-issue. If the word "joycon" is the sole problem as the article reads it to be, just change the name and relaunch. They definitely have more publicity for it now.
Hmmm... yeah it's suspicious but I'm not the type that condemns over accusations. I need hard evidence and frankly we don't have that. I wouldn't be surprised if this was Nintendo being petty or the Melee community whining about nothing.
Ehhh... people are acting like they put the rhyme verbatim into the movie. I agree that the rhyme is offensive, but I don't think the movie is actually referencing it? The entire point was to make the "Chi-knees" pun. Assuming the character/actor is Chinese in some way it actually works. Is it the "Look at these knees" line? That line combines the "Look at these" and "Dirty knees" lines of the rhyme, but doesn't contain either of the racist elements of those lines. Specifically he neither points to his breasts nor uses the word dirty. I don't know, in my opinion the joke in the movie doesn't reflect a usage of a racist playground rhyme, but I'm not Chinese and can't tell them what they can and can't be offended by so I'll defer to their judgement. Not like it matters the movie is toss anyway.
Why'd you buy Nintendo Switch Online? Person A: To play my favorite games online, like Mario Kart and Smash Bros Person B: Because Nintendo is holding the Retro Games hostage and I really needed to play Super Metroid again Person C: Because the icon on the bottom of the home menu was bothering me
Huh, thought Fates did better than Awakening, then again, they split that one into three games so I guess that would inflate the numbers. Edit: Yeah, just checked a few sites and they all say that Fates did 3.00 Million and Awakening did 2.31 Million. Obviously then, Awakening sold better as an individual game than Fates did, but I'm not seeing a 2.94 Million for Awakening anywhere. Where is that number coming from, I am genuinely curious.
@Bermanator Sadly a developer would have signed an NDA, so nothing official would be stated by them about the game and Retro Studios is owned wholly by Nintendo, so I imagine any official statement by the company would have to go through Nintendo anyway. I agree that I would love to know more about the game, but that's just not going to happen for the foreseeable future. A new F-Zero would be awesome.
@Bermanator If that's what you're waiting for you'll never get it until they officially reveal the game. Nintendo has never one day tweeted "Hey guys, preproduction on game x is done!". Relax, they're working on it and it'll be ready when its ready.
@Bermanator It's been a little over a year since they announced they restarted development. Give the steak time to cook, pull it out too early and there'll still a cold, raw center.
People love overreacting to these things. What I find interesting is if Metroid Prime 4 wasn't announced at E3, we would have never gotten the update video and would instead be theorizing what game Retro was making instead with all of these new hires. Would that be better? Is knowing that they're a year into development of a game we learned about 3 years ago better than not knowing what game they're working on at all? I think so if only because I can't stand rumor articles. I'll accept official news on Metroid Prime 4 if and when Retro and Nintendo are ready to officially reveal it. When will that be? 1 year from now? 5? Doesnt matter, I've waited longer not believing they'd even make another one, so I can wait a little longer peacefully.
@BulbasaurusRex I figured this would be your reply, and I have nothing against your opinion, it just happens to differ from my own. My problem wasn't with the transition between third-person or first-person, it was with needing to go into first-person at all, I would have vastly preferred staying in third-person the whole game (A position that was proved to me after playing Maxximum Edition). You say you can quickly move out of first-person to dodge something, but why would I want to constantly move in and out of first person mode just to shoot one thing with a missile, either let me adjust my movement in first-person or fire the missile in third-person. Sense move? Aagh, still not entirely sure how I feel about it, it felt cool, but also made some combat encounters way too easy. As for the D-pad, it definitely works, no question about it, but I would have preferred analog movement. That's a me thing, I don't expect or wish for you to agree with all of my arguments, some are going to be a matter of preference. I think it's well documented that they artificially limited the control scheme to what I believe to be to the detrament of the game. The game would have worked perfectly fine if they allowed for the option of analog movement.
Last thing I'll say about the story, because as you say its a love-it or hate-it kind of deal, is that while there is justification in the game for Samus to follow Adam's orders, it makes no sense to me for any of Samus' upgrades outside of the Power Bomb and Missiles (which were authorized immediately anyway). There is no justifiable reason I can see to not have the Grapple Beam, Varia Suit, gravity suit, space jump, speed booster etc. on from the very beginning. If they were that much of a problem at the start, then Adam would also deauthorize them the second they weren't needed anymore! The one that bugs me the most (outside of the stupid Varia Suit one) is the Ice Beam, literally the rest of his crew has the Ice Beam from the beginning, but Samus can't have it until much later. This all being said, I don't play games, let alone Metroid games, for the story. I eye-rolled through most of the cutscenes and that was about it.
Again, I'll finish by saying a lot of these are relatively minor gripes that just prevent the game from being as good as other Metroid games, a solid 7/10 game from me. Glad you were able to find more enjoyment where I couldn't. High hopes for Metroid Prime 4!
@BulbasaurusRex @oliver139
I'd like to preface this by saying that Other M isn't as bad as most of the internet would have you believe and isn't even my least favorite Metroid game. That said, I disagree with you saying the gameplay is "fantastic". Metroid Prime and Metroid Fusion gameplay is "fantastic", Other M gameplay I would only classify as "good-enough". My main issues stem from the fact that in order to fire a missile you have to go into the first-person mode, which forces you to stand in one spot and can't move (outside of sense-move which I feel is its own can of worms) is beyond annoying for me. Additionally, the fact that movement was limited to a D-pad was annoying as well, never liked moving a 3D game with a 2-D control scheme. Also, there was very little music in the game, and what was there wasn't all that memorable imo.
As for the story? Didn't care for it. Even beyond the voice-acting, which was passable for everyone (except Samus, no I didn't think the monotone voice acting worked), the lines themselves were terrible. The biggest gripe I have with the story, of course, is the way they use the story to justify how Samus gets her weapons back. Locking them behind Adam saying "oh hey, it looks like your friend is getting mauled up there, I guess you can use your grapple beam to save them" was beyond frustrating, Samus should have her own agency in those situations to authorize the use of those herself.
Granted, these points are all subjective what parts of a game someone is going to enjoy or not enjoy and I'm not saying you guys are wrong for enjoying it, I just wanted to give my thoughts on it as a sort of, contrary opinion. I'm not going to touch the fact the game is linear (I prefer more open Metroids, but I also enjoyed Fusion so it being linear isn't a problem for me). I will end by saying though, you all should check out a mod for Other M called Maxximum Edition. It fixed pretty much every issue I had with Other M (from how to fire missiles, Samus' suit texture, even the justification for how to unlock Samus' weapons!) and made the game so much more fun!
I always turn off the chat, mostly because of the incessant whining and people just being plain rude, but also because I'm usually a bit behind in the stream and don't want to get spoiled.
This is my favorite Nintendo ad (after Happy Together of course) just for the narration. It gets the story wrong and spoils the final boss, so it's actually kind of a bad commercial all things considered, but I still love it.
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Re: Random: Banjo-Kazooie Creator Reacts To Duo's Bittersweet Cameo In The Latest Smash Trailer
@nessisonett One can hope, it certainly looks much more promising now than it has been in years.
Re: Random: Banjo-Kazooie Creator Reacts To Duo's Bittersweet Cameo In The Latest Smash Trailer
As a fan, it makes me yearn for a BK game that looks as great as they did in this trailer. Since Perfect Dark is getting a reboot and Battletoads has already, I have hope that Banjo and Kazooie won't go forgotten for that much longer.
Re: Nintendo Switch System Update 11.0.1 Is Now Live
But.....is it stable?
Re: The Game Awards GOTY Is The Last Of Us Part 2
Ehhhhh.... sure. It's a good game and is definitely quality, I just thought there were games that were either better gameplay-wise (Ghost of Tsushima) or better defined the year this was (Animal Crossing). Regardless, congrats Naughty Dog.
Re: Sephiroth From Final Fantasy VII Joins Super Smash Bros. Ultimate This Month
@Bobb Im with you on the more songs. One Winged Angel at least is coming.
Re: Sephiroth From Final Fantasy VII Joins Super Smash Bros. Ultimate This Month
Not my first choice, but hell yeah anyway
Re: Persona 5 Strikers Launches On Switch In The West In February, New Trailer And Screenshots
@NESlover85 If P4G came to Switch you wouldn't hear from me on this site for while.
Re: Persona 5 Strikers Launches On Switch In The West In February, New Trailer And Screenshots
@HotGoomba___Rebrand Persona 4 Golden for Switch
Re: Persona 5 Strikers Launches On Switch In The West In February, New Trailer And Screenshots
Well its about time.
Re: Custom-Made Etika Joy-Con Which Raised $10k For Charity Fell Foul Of Copyright Claim, Creator Reveals
This seems like such a non-issue. If the word "joycon" is the sole problem as the article reads it to be, just change the name and relaunch. They definitely have more publicity for it now.
Re: Nintendo Cancels Splatoon 2 NA Open Livestream, "Free Melee" Believed To Have Played A Part
Hmmm... yeah it's suspicious but I'm not the type that condemns over accusations. I need hard evidence and frankly we don't have that. I wouldn't be surprised if this was Nintendo being petty or the Melee community whining about nothing.
Re: Monster Hunter Movie's Chinese Premiere Reportedly Cancelled Due To Racist Joke
Ehhh... people are acting like they put the rhyme verbatim into the movie. I agree that the rhyme is offensive, but I don't think the movie is actually referencing it? The entire point was to make the "Chi-knees" pun. Assuming the character/actor is Chinese in some way it actually works. Is it the "Look at these knees" line? That line combines the "Look at these" and "Dirty knees" lines of the rhyme, but doesn't contain either of the racist elements of those lines. Specifically he neither points to his breasts nor uses the word dirty. I don't know, in my opinion the joke in the movie doesn't reflect a usage of a racist playground rhyme, but I'm not Chinese and can't tell them what they can and can't be offended by so I'll defer to their judgement. Not like it matters the movie is toss anyway.
Re: Why Is Fire Emblem So Dark On Switch? It Reportedly Runs On The Same Emulator Used On Wii U
Oh noooooooo.... whatever shall we doooooooooo....
Re: Nintendo Hacker Who Stole "Confidential Information" Sentenced To Three Years In Prison
Good. Deserves Longer
Re: Random: The NSO Icon On The Switch Home Menu Is Driving Some Users Crazy
Why'd you buy Nintendo Switch Online?
Person A: To play my favorite games online, like Mario Kart and Smash Bros
Person B: Because Nintendo is holding the Retro Games hostage and I really needed to play Super Metroid again
Person C: Because the icon on the bottom of the home menu was bothering me
Re: Mini Review: Picross S5 - You Know The Drill By Now, Surely?
Ah, so this is the PS5 all the kids are talking about.
Re: Square Enix Announces SaGa Frontier Remastered, Launches On Switch In Summer 2021
Something funny about it coming to Switch, but skipping Xbox.
Re: How Well Do You Know Zelda: Breath Of The Wild?
15/16 Who's going to get that shrine question without guessing.
Re: Japanese Charts: Switch Sales Remain Strong As Next-Gen Systems Hit The Market
Out of sheer curiosity, how do these compare to Switch launch numbers and PS4 launch numbers?
Re: 3DS System Update 11.14.0-46 Is Now Live
THE 3DS WILL NEVER DIE
Re: Hacker Tears Apart Super Mario Game & Watch To Find Out What's Inside
One day, they're gonna open one up and find its powered it black magic.
Re: Switch Sold More Units In Q3 2020 Than Any Platform Since The DS In Q3 2009 (US)
I technically bought my switch this year. So thats a thing.
Re: Rumour: Has Nintendo Accidentally Leaked Metroid: Samus Returns For Switch?
I wouldn't mind the best version of Metroid 2 on switch, if it was reasonably priced that is.
Re: Site News: Nintendo Life Turns 15 Today
Woop woop! Have the happiest of birthdays!
Re: Fire Emblem: Three Houses Is Now The Best-Selling Entry In The Entire Series
Huh, thought Fates did better than Awakening, then again, they split that one into three games so I guess that would inflate the numbers. Edit: Yeah, just checked a few sites and they all say that Fates did 3.00 Million and Awakening did 2.31 Million. Obviously then, Awakening sold better as an individual game than Fates did, but I'm not seeing a 2.94 Million for Awakening anywhere. Where is that number coming from, I am genuinely curious.
Re: How Well Do You Know Pikmin?
12/12 Never played a Pikmin game. Thank you Smash Bros trophy descriptions and educated guessing
Re: Review: Bakugan: Champions Of Vestroia - The Kids Deserve So Much Better
Anybody else mention the article where they said we shouldn't underestimate this game.
Re: Random: Animal Crossing Characters Rocked Up To An NFL Stadium Last Week
The biggest win the Lions will get this year.
Re: Retro Studios Is Expanding Its HQ In 2021 To Aid Development Of Metroid Prime 4
@KingBowser86 It is clear he'll really cement his place on the team, he'll be a foundation for the rest to grow off of.
Re: Retro Studios Is Expanding Its HQ In 2021 To Aid Development Of Metroid Prime 4
@KingBowser86 I hear he's had many years of experience in his field and is very supportive of others.
Re: Retro Studios Is Moving To A New HQ In 2021 To Aid Development Of Metroid Prime 4
Ha, now they hired a new building.
Re: Poll: Pikmin 3 Deluxe Is Out Today On Switch, Are You Getting It?
Nope. Pikmin just isn't a series for me.
Re: Retro's Hiring Spree Continues As It Recruits Veteran GTA Producer
@Chowdaire Alright, a little under two years instead of a little over one I gotcha.
Re: Retro's Hiring Spree Continues As It Recruits Veteran GTA Producer
@Bermanator Sadly a developer would have signed an NDA, so nothing official would be stated by them about the game and Retro Studios is owned wholly by Nintendo, so I imagine any official statement by the company would have to go through Nintendo anyway. I agree that I would love to know more about the game, but that's just not going to happen for the foreseeable future.
A new F-Zero would be awesome.
Re: Retro's Hiring Spree Continues As It Recruits Veteran GTA Producer
@Bermanator If that's what you're waiting for you'll never get it until they officially reveal the game. Nintendo has never one day tweeted "Hey guys, preproduction on game x is done!". Relax, they're working on it and it'll be ready when its ready.
Re: Retro's Hiring Spree Continues As It Recruits Veteran GTA Producer
@Bermanator It's been a little over a year since they announced they restarted development. Give the steak time to cook, pull it out too early and there'll still a cold, raw center.
Re: Retro's Hiring Spree Continues As It Recruits Veteran GTA Producer
People love overreacting to these things. What I find interesting is if Metroid Prime 4 wasn't announced at E3, we would have never gotten the update video and would instead be theorizing what game Retro was making instead with all of these new hires. Would that be better? Is knowing that they're a year into development of a game we learned about 3 years ago better than not knowing what game they're working on at all? I think so if only because I can't stand rumor articles. I'll accept official news on Metroid Prime 4 if and when Retro and Nintendo are ready to officially reveal it. When will that be? 1 year from now? 5? Doesnt matter, I've waited longer not believing they'd even make another one, so I can wait a little longer peacefully.
Re: Poll: Rate Your Favourite Wii Games
@BulbasaurusRex I figured this would be your reply, and I have nothing against your opinion, it just happens to differ from my own. My problem wasn't with the transition between third-person or first-person, it was with needing to go into first-person at all, I would have vastly preferred staying in third-person the whole game (A position that was proved to me after playing Maxximum Edition). You say you can quickly move out of first-person to dodge something, but why would I want to constantly move in and out of first person mode just to shoot one thing with a missile, either let me adjust my movement in first-person or fire the missile in third-person. Sense move? Aagh, still not entirely sure how I feel about it, it felt cool, but also made some combat encounters way too easy. As for the D-pad, it definitely works, no question about it, but I would have preferred analog movement. That's a me thing, I don't expect or wish for you to agree with all of my arguments, some are going to be a matter of preference. I think it's well documented that they artificially limited the control scheme to what I believe to be to the detrament of the game. The game would have worked perfectly fine if they allowed for the option of analog movement.
Last thing I'll say about the story, because as you say its a love-it or hate-it kind of deal, is that while there is justification in the game for Samus to follow Adam's orders, it makes no sense to me for any of Samus' upgrades outside of the Power Bomb and Missiles (which were authorized immediately anyway). There is no justifiable reason I can see to not have the Grapple Beam, Varia Suit, gravity suit, space jump, speed booster etc. on from the very beginning. If they were that much of a problem at the start, then Adam would also deauthorize them the second they weren't needed anymore! The one that bugs me the most (outside of the stupid Varia Suit one) is the Ice Beam, literally the rest of his crew has the Ice Beam from the beginning, but Samus can't have it until much later. This all being said, I don't play games, let alone Metroid games, for the story. I eye-rolled through most of the cutscenes and that was about it.
Again, I'll finish by saying a lot of these are relatively minor gripes that just prevent the game from being as good as other Metroid games, a solid 7/10 game from me. Glad you were able to find more enjoyment where I couldn't. High hopes for Metroid Prime 4!
Re: Poll: Rate Your Favourite Wii Games
@BulbasaurusRex @oliver139 Sorry for the wall of text, didn't realize how much I was typing.
Re: Poll: Rate Your Favourite Wii Games
@BulbasaurusRex @oliver139
I'd like to preface this by saying that Other M isn't as bad as most of the internet would have you believe and isn't even my least favorite Metroid game. That said, I disagree with you saying the gameplay is "fantastic". Metroid Prime and Metroid Fusion gameplay is "fantastic", Other M gameplay I would only classify as "good-enough". My main issues stem from the fact that in order to fire a missile you have to go into the first-person mode, which forces you to stand in one spot and can't move (outside of sense-move which I feel is its own can of worms) is beyond annoying for me. Additionally, the fact that movement was limited to a D-pad was annoying as well, never liked moving a 3D game with a 2-D control scheme. Also, there was very little music in the game, and what was there wasn't all that memorable imo.
As for the story? Didn't care for it. Even beyond the voice-acting, which was passable for everyone (except Samus, no I didn't think the monotone voice acting worked), the lines themselves were terrible. The biggest gripe I have with the story, of course, is the way they use the story to justify how Samus gets her weapons back. Locking them behind Adam saying "oh hey, it looks like your friend is getting mauled up there, I guess you can use your grapple beam to save them" was beyond frustrating, Samus should have her own agency in those situations to authorize the use of those herself.
Granted, these points are all subjective what parts of a game someone is going to enjoy or not enjoy and I'm not saying you guys are wrong for enjoying it, I just wanted to give my thoughts on it as a sort of, contrary opinion. I'm not going to touch the fact the game is linear (I prefer more open Metroids, but I also enjoyed Fusion so it being linear isn't a problem for me). I will end by saying though, you all should check out a mod for Other M called Maxximum Edition. It fixed pretty much every issue I had with Other M (from how to fire missiles, Samus' suit texture, even the justification for how to unlock Samus' weapons!) and made the game so much more fun!
Re: Poll: Rate Your Favourite Wii Games
Awww.. no Hidden Mysteries Titanic on the list? Other then the horrible motion control segments it was actually pretty fun.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl #64 - International Superstar Soccer 98
Wow, got to go with Europe. US is too boring and Japan scares me a little. Hate low effort mascots like that. Ech.
Re: Japanese Charts: Animal Crossing Has To Settle For Second As FIFA 21 Tops The Table
11,990 people got ripped off.
Re: Random: Sakurai Didn't Appreciate The "Rough" Comments During TGS, So He Decided To Turn Them Off
I always turn off the chat, mostly because of the incessant whining and people just being plain rude, but also because I'm usually a bit behind in the stream and don't want to get spoiled.
Re: Professor Layton Dev Level-5 Has No Plans For Future Games Outside Of Japan, Says Report
No, I love (most of) the Layton games! I hope if they make more they'll find their way over here.
Re: Retro Studios Seeking Three Product Testers And A Storyboard Artist
insert "Metroid Prime 4 coming in the year 20XX" comment here
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Duel #63 - Advance Wars: Dual Strike
I didn't think the NA cover was all that great, but then I saw the Japanese cover and EUgh.
Re: Feature: The Best, And Worst, Nintendo Commercials Ever
This is my favorite Nintendo ad (after Happy Together of course) just for the narration. It gets the story wrong and spoils the final boss, so it's actually kind of a bad commercial all things considered, but I still love it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9EfFlf7qU8
Re: God Of War Dev Joins Retro Studios As Environment Designer For Metroid Prime 4
Generic "This game must have just started development" comment here
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Duel #60 - Metroid: Other M
Unlike Perfect Dark, this time the box art actually fit the theme of the game! Japan all the way.