Monster Hunter Movie's Chinese Premiere Reportedly Cancelled Due To Racist Joke

If the English got offended everytime there was a joke or cliche about England or the English in American movies and TV we wouldn’t watch any TV and a LOT of movies would be banned. Rhyming a countries name with a dirty body part is hardly the worst sin in the world.

Are you kidding me? This is not racist in any possible way. It's a f#cking joke, FFS! A bad joke that is wholly unfunny, but an Asian character making a bad joke about something asian! Cancel the whole movie! F-ing rdiculous.

Wow, that joke seemed more like a bad pun than any kind of mean spirited or racist joke about Chinese people. Too bad this misunderstanding will cost Monster Hunter one of the biggest movie markets in the world. Probably wasn't smart to have a joke where the punchline is a race of people in the first place though.

That was really… tone deaf I guess.

Hilarious.

Roll tide.

"Such is the fallout that Monster Hunter: World has gotten over 1,000 negative reviews on Steam"

As if review bombing hasn't gotten ridiculous enough already. People really don't have a sense of humor anymore it seems.

Wow lots of people defending this extremely childish racist joke...this is the hill you guys want to die on?

All and all doesn't seem to add anything to the movie other than more cringe and should have been on the cutting room floor without the Chinese government's censorship.

Given how dodgy the movie looks the Chinese where probably just looking for an excuse to cancel it ;p

@iulis84 Most likely it was removed from сhinese version.

@Chamver you think that’s bad, if they added a Winnie the Pooh reference somewhere in there they would probably treat it as act of war

@Specters I agree it's a bad joke but it's not supposed to be racist.

So films aren't allowed to feature horrible and nasty characters anymore?? Good grief.

@Specters So you only want to have nice characters in films then and no nasty people with horrible views? Wow, that will make for great story writing.

Down with this sort of thing.

For the people saying it’s not racist I did a little Google’ing as I was never aware about a rhyme like this. But I think it’s always smart todo a little research and take the time to educate yourself before you speak.

One website reads that the rhyme has excused since 1850 and was used by kids to mock Asian people. The rhyme includes hand gestures where the kids say:

“CHINESE” – pulling their eyes into an upward slant
“JAPANESE” – pulling their eyes into a downward slant
“DIRTY KNEES” – pointing to their knees
“LOOK AT THESE” – pulling the tops of their shirts to mimic breasts).

And I don’t think you can decide for someone else if they can be offended or not.

A short summary of arguments in defense of this joke:
Racism is okay if it targets right people.

@WaveWitch yeah, the show has a reason for it because the guy is an artifact of his/my generation. It works in context. Most people ignore context and critical thinking because people are allergic to thinking since it makes their heads hurt. China and its social credit system is the priority and defending the motherland mindlessly at the very least brings you up as opposed to bringing you down.

@Entrr_username as I don't know this joke, because I'm not from England or USA, would you mind explaining the meaning of this joke? These kind of jokes usually have a racist background. Japanese were not the most popular race in the US after WWII I guess. And putting the Chinese in one line with Japanese doesn't sound non-racust tbh. Also adding the dirty knees line, which could mean what? They are all poor farmers? They do low work on their knees? It would be very kind of you to explain, how this joke can only be bad, but not racist.

On top of that: I think it's not the creators choice to decide, if a joke is racist or not. By any means, it's the person or group which the joke is pointed at to decide how they feel about it. Don't you think?

@wsli I'm offended by your comment. Would you kindly remove it? I'm not trying to be mean or anything, I just find it offensive.

@wsli Exactly this. I remember growing up in elementary school and kids would taunt me saying and doing this down to the letter. This is going to come off as extremely over sensitive, but it was very harmful to hear as young kid who was just looking to make friends.

The people who say that this isn't racist or offensive have never had it hurled at them in this kind of way.

@Clyde_Radcliffe I didn't watch the movie, yet. But are there consequences, short or long term for this "bad guy" or does he get away with it?
I agree with you that we don't need only soft washed movies, we need the provocative ones, that slap our faces sometimes. We have enough reality in real life already.
On the other hand, creators should consider their target audience, as you will not make clear political statements in a Disney movie, or adding gore scenes to cinderella (yeah, I know Disney movies have some strange messages between the lines, but not obvious ones that kids understand).

@Cheez Why should he? People were asking why it could be so offensive, and that comment provided the exact reason why it has a history of being just that.

@Cheez your right action here would be to block him, then the comment disappears. Like with the rhyme, it will disappear in China, but will stay for the rest of the world.

Never heard of this rhyme before. In what context has it been used? Is it a variation of this very racist and offensive "joke" I remember kids were saying when I was growing up (put in spoiler brackets):

If that's the case, I totally understand if people are upset, because the so called "joke" above is extremely racist and unfunny.

Edit: Looking at the clip provided by the tweet linked in the article, it doesn't seem they are reciting the rhyme as the article author writes, maybe just referencing it (which might be bad enough — don't really know in what context the line is said, so can't judge):

Character 1: "What?"
Character 2: "Look at my knees!"
Character 1: "What kind of knees are these?"
Character 2: "Chi-knees!"

Does the actor saying that have Chinese/Asian heritage?

@HeyItsFlapjack he said it because of the last sentence, that only you by yourself can decide if you feel offended, no one else can do that for you.
So yeah, ignore him, he is trolling

@wsli I saw the joke and I remember it. I’m probably going to be the worst Asian here because I’ve got thick skin about this and it doesn’t bother me, but unfortunately, the younger generation tends to be more eager to follow the mantra “I suffer, therefore I am” and believe that the magic words to get whatever they want isn’t “please” or even “would you kindly”, but “I’m offended”.

This is a bad "dad joke," nothing more. A character, presumably Chinese-American (but at the very least some kind of East Asian), makes a joke that his knees are "Chi-knees." That's the whole joke; feel free to roll your eyes. Anyone linking this to a virtually forgotten racist rhyme from the late 19th century is either looking way too far into this or is being intentionally disingenuous.

On that note, this article is legitimately spreading misinformation. The character in question doesn't "recite" the aforementioned racist rhyme—he says "Chi-knees," that's it. The author literally linked to a Twitter post with the clip included that shows as much. Did Nintendo Life just take someone's tweet and report it at face value without doing any further research, even up to actually watching the video clip included with said tweet?

You look like winie the poo.
China: One word for ya B-A-N-D.

you have to wonder what the writers were even thinking putting this joke in the movie even if China wasn’t its biggest market or it wasn’t going to air in China in the first place. Like...what is the benefit? And the idiots who are saying this joke adds “realism”...like. Its Monster Hunter. You’re not watching it for the realism.

Is there more to this? Not seen the film but the clip in that Twitter post has the line:
'Look at my knees. What kind of knees are these? Chi-knees'
Is this not the right clip or are people as usual jumping to the worst possible conclusion trying to link it to something racist rather than taking it as it is which is simply a joke on the rhyming part of knees to Chinese.

@mazzel Does their need to be consequences for it? They probably just used it to show the viewers what kind of guy he is. It looks like he's just joking with his friend from the clip so maybe not.

"The movie's Chinese premiere has reportedly been cancelled."

"The film launched in China on December 3rd."

Great reporting from Damo once again.

The perpetual outrage machine will never run out of batteries.

They should just dub the line with Sudanese. Keeps the terrible pun and doesn't imply, as someone has mentioned it doesn't appear to be the whole line, the racist poem. I had completely forgotten the actions that go with it. It's the actions that raises the racism exponentially of the rhyme.

@wsli People would do well to take note of your comment.

I thought it was simply a nonsense rhyme as well, certainly it read quite "off" but actually looking into it will show you it's quite nasty. People are well within their rights to decry this rather nasty joke.

In future before people give out about others being overly sensitive please have the wherewithal to give it a wee google first and you may well learn they actually have a point.

I hope this comment doesn't come across as divisive, it's good to do some research and learn why people are upset rather than immediately go on the offensive. It's something we all need a little more practice with.

@Damo
Well................. I'm Japanese and its not really racist at all.

@RazumikhinPG

Premiere’s don’t always occur before a film’s first showing, especially in these times. Very similar to how ‘Grand Openings’ can occur weeks after a store first starts trading.

The outrage is perfectly justified, the line is unnecessary and shows poor foresight - I’d argue not a single individual commenting here is really in a place to decide whether it’s racist or not.

There doesn't seem to be much context for this scene other than to offend. Weird.

People are obsessed with racism nowadays. They actively go looking for it, and if they can't find any genuine examples, they just redefine words or meanings in order to create it.
The whole subject has become a complete joke in my opinion. I no longer take accusations of racism at all seriously, which is unfortunate because there are probably some legitimate ones from time to time.

The actual clip comes across like a bad dad joke, I was expecting a more direct reference to the offensive rhyme. That said if it is offensive to some demographics they shouldnt have put that in.

Man this movie is train wreck

@HeyItsFlapjack I'm sincerely sorry you had that experience. I would have been your friend at school.

@MaxiPareja Out of curiosity, on what basis would you say that? And who would be in position (in your opinion) to make judgments on what is it isn't racist? Only CCP censors?

@Savino Not to defend the writing, but do you actually believe an Asian person making an (unfunny) joke about their ancestry is the same as vilification of an ethnic-religious group, or is that hyperbole?

@Stocksy I literally can't think of one example of a racist joke against white Brits that was on TV or movies.

@Savino

An argument is either correct or not. I could be purple with green spots and it would have zero influence on whether my point was correct.

I expected something far, faaar worse when I clicked on that video. Is there some extra context I'm missing here that makes the joke actually racist? Because all I'm seeing is some dumb wordplay.

People are so needlessly uptight these days.

Humanity has devolved into nothing more than a festering cesspool of misery and mass delusion.

Pathetic.

Believe me, if the guy had said "Japanese" instead of Chinese, it would still be in Chinese theaters with audiences roaring in laughter. There would be social media backlash in Japan but the Japanese wouldn't censor it.
Racist or not aside, they made the wrong joke at the wrong audience, plain and simple.

Extremely bad joke and indicative of bad writing. This was to be expected. Next.

@Savino using someones ethnicity as an excuse to shut down that person's point of view just proves how bigoted and narrow minded you are.

You are also saying Whites can't face racism in a white country, what about the abuse Eastern Europeans face in countries like France and Britain?
What colour is the skin of the people predominantly forced into modern slavery and the sex industry in Europe?
Everyone faces racism and saying that one ethnicity can't based solely on the colour of that person's skin is the the textbook definition of racism.

@ChaosBadger777
Savino most likely was referring to America, where historically and today, people of lighter skin tones have been more likely to have been treated better by institutions and such. I’d imagine that he would speak to Europe’s issues if he was from a European country.

Just my observations though.

This from the same country that has a commercial that puts a black man in a washing machine and comes out Chinese man. Then again, for the past 5 years everything is considered racist now (unless against a certain race, then racism is ok).
But all is ok, thanks to a certain virus, China is currently the only booming country financially, so they say jump, we say how high now.

Weird how unempathetic NL users can be.
On a side note, you could say that these negative reviews for MH: World were simply overdue.

@Chamver,

To the left post modernist movement everything is deemed racist, even if the group the joke or comment was aimed at are not offended themselves.

Lol here some facts for the cry babies.south park is worse then this and how long has it been on.i think people need to grow up

@Damo,

In for the clicks again eh Damo.

@johnvboy
I mean, racism isn’t dependent on the reaction of the targeted group, but rather, the intent of the aggressor.

Granted, someone could be racist without even knowing it.

@Specters,

Don't be such a fool fella, nobody on here is defending actual cases of racism, but the world has got so fragile over the last ten years or so.

@RandomAfricanGamer i have a black friend who calls me honky all the time. It doesnt bother me tho as its meant in gest. To be fair tho it wouldnt bother me if it was meant as an insult.

@RandomAfricanGamer,

But that's impossible to gauge, I mean I will stand with anyone and defend actual cases of racism, but if we are talking about Unconscious bias then we are fighting an invisible man.

@Kidfunkadelic83,

The left would say you are wrong to not be offended, which in itself is not very tolerant.

So we should never air a chinese movie that has the word gwailo or a japanese movie with the word gaijin.

Alright.

Disturbing how much more common those are.

@Kidfunkadelic83
Yeah. This all gets confusing if you want to dig deep into it.

@johnvboy
Unconscious bias would probably be for the people who already are racist, and there’s not much we can do about that.

@RandomAfricanGamer,

Yes but that's my point, the intention of the perpetrator does not seem to be taken into account, it's as simple as someone says something, and it must be racist, the context and circumstances seem to be thrown out of the window.

@Clyde_Radcliffe Like I mentioned, depends on your target audience. For this part of the movie, I personally think Nintendo life got another clickbait article here. Without this article and the posted twitter comments, I probably would think the joke in the movie is hilarious 😂

@johnvboy so true, my man. The left can go take a run and jump tho 😂 i wont be told how to feel when a comment is made to me in gest or otherwise.

@johnvboy
👍🏿

@RandomAfricanGamer,

The left seem to be suggesting that's everybody, which is a tough one to judge, or defend.

The worst thing that ever happened to the world is Social Media. Every "outrage" starts there and spreads like wildfire. Every time someone gets cancelled, it started on Twitter or Facebook. I'm OK with this though, Hollywood (and the NBA) are too dependent on a communist led country that wants to destroy us financially and physically. I support the people of Hong Kong.

whew boy, turning the dial of comment section roughness from "standing up for a video game movie's writing" to "complaining about the left" all the way to "sinophobia veiled as thinly as an inner shower curtain" in that order i see

@Amrulez,

The moral outrage on those sites is always far worse than the offence.

@johnvboy the defenders become the offenders 😂 Im so glad i dont use twitter or facebook anymore. My life is better without them for sure.

@mazzel no I don’t. It’s a simple playground rhyme that just goes on what rhymes it’s not racist. At most it would be xenophobic. Which is isnt. It doesn’t insult a country and says two nations and then something that rhymes. It’s stupid. It’s not racist or offensive it’s stupid.

It’s like saying “Finland, England, cold right hand” is offensive and racist.

Whilst I don't agree with being deliberately derogatory or insulting, it's got to the point where you can't have any colour or character in a script without someone objecting. I remember this rhyme from when I was a kid in the '80s, and it was exactly that - a rhyme. The words "Chinese", "Japanese" and "knees" didn't really mean anything. It was just an excuse to say "boobs" at the end (or, more specifically, "boob-a-lees").

@johnvboy

I mean sometimes it's justified to call people out. But even for small offenses, once the outrage mob gets on your ass and they start doxing you and going after your job your life can easily be ruined for quite a while. It's always disturbed me to see that happen to people.

@Lionyone no, it’s impossible to be racist about a country. It’s why I didn’t say racist. That’s xenophobia. This can’t be racist.

You need to watch more movies and TV, English stereotypes ands insults are free flowing in so many movies. Not only is a Englishman 9 times out of 10 a villain, jokes abort bad teeth, tea and crumpets are common place. There are whole movies that are full of English stereotypes- eurotrip being an easy and obvious one. Family Guy pokes fun at the English as much as any over group. The stereotyping of English is much more widespread though, from only ever two real accents in America produced media - Posh and “cockney” - if we applied the same standards other countries did we would be offended often. Usually we laugh or roll our eyes as the Posh English guy is the villain again!

If you want their money, you have to play by their rules. Simple as that. Folks boycott crap in America all the time. Nike uses kapernick in an add and Republicans start burning their shoes. This isn’t a China only thing.

@Savino again dismissing the fact and saying you can't be racist towards an ethnicity is itself racist.
I'm bored of you and your biased racist views so won't be replying further.

Police forces in the UK have been found guilty of discrimination because they refused to hire whites based on ethnicity - they were solely hiring PoC. Thats not Xenophobia its racism.

@Bliquid you are wasting your time with him/her. These idiots are blinkered and been brought up to shut down conversation by saying anything they disagree with is racist etc.
They aren't able to think independently and often don't even realise they are guilty of oppressing people themselves based on the characteristics they are white knighting

@Specters its not the joke, its the principal of the matter.

China literally bans Time Travel as theme from their stories, if we cater to their standards it can only go downhill from here.

@Savino

I'm sorry but the idea that if you've personally experienced racism, that you therefore become some kind of expert on it as a sociological phenomena (and authority on how and when it should be opposed), makes about as much sense as saying that victims of cancer should be consulted on how to cure cancer.
It's just not a logical deduction. One thing does not imply the other.
In many situations, actually being a victim of something yourself, makes you LESS rational in thinking about how to solve it.

@Stocksy ah, sorry, I forgot the fact, that out of xenophobia it's ok to insult other people/ races. This kind of thinking is one of the reasons for xenophobia not disappearing. I personally think that xenophobia is a strong driver of racism. Therefore declaring xenophobia as harmless, you just support racism in the long run.
So for the context of the "harmless, xenophobic rhyme", it's still no excuse.
Also, your comparison with your made up joke is hilarious. The original rhyme uses "dirty knees", obviously something negative. If it's harmless, why wasn't "pretty knees" used? It's obvious, that the rhyme intends to make Japanese and Chinese look bad.

@Dezzy exactly, it's like the people saying "I have a foreign friend, I'm allowed to make racist jokes"...

talk about an overreaction

@Dezzy
An argument is either correct or not. I could be purple with green spots and it would have zero influence on whether my point was correct

I was going to post my thoughts, but you pretty much summed them up already. This post was so on point they should engrave it on a memorial. The idea that you can shut down an opposing argument via dismissing it due to their skin color is so incredibly ignorant, and stems from the same post-modern authoritarian ideology fueling cancel culture.

They've constructed a hierarchy of oppression to justify using power against any adversary. Your logical argument counters mine? Not to worry, I'll just appeal to the hierarchy of oppression to dismiss your opinions as invalid.

@mazzel i think the whole "what are these" (breast pointing) is an insinuation of all asian women having small breasts too. I can categorically say this is a false statement... For the most part🤔😋

Let's be honest, there are common jokes about pretty much any country and any group of people and that has always been the case.
I am german and there are about a million jokes about germany and specifically the german language. However, I have never felt offended by any of them.
We are making jokes about ourselves as well...
If we were offended by this kind of thing, the Simpsons would have never aired here from the moment where this german stereotype character was first introduced (forgot his name), at least.

Jokes where people are involved are usually at least a bit offensive and there is nothing wrong with that!
They are jokes, the entire purpose for them is to not be taken seriously!

About this "racism" or just "xenophobia" issue:
Human "races" are a social construct anyway, humanity does not have multiple "races" from a scientific standpoint.
Human races are what we, as a society, define as such and because of that, I don't see much of a difference between "Xenophobia" and "Racism", because both are just arguing about groups of people, however you define them.

@HeyItsFlapjack as @wsli said "I don’t think you can decide for someone else if they can be offended or not." If he truly believed what he said he should remove the comment because I'm offended by it. That should be enough. If you believe what he says you shouldn't need to ask me about why I'm offended either. But, hopefully you're just honestly curious, so thank you for asking. But I'm not comfortable sharing why it's offensive. Hopefully he'll do what's right and remove the offensive comment.

Its very fun seeing how poor most NL chatters handle topics that involve serious issues.

@mazzel There are plenty of political statements in Disney films, just like there used to be casual racism. They jump from one extreme to the next, but always play to stereotypes.

Honestly, for once I actually get why the Chinese have had such a bad reaction. It’s just really poor form. It’s important for people to realise that this isn’t just the Chinese state, there are a billion civilians living there who have done nothing wrong and are genuinely insulted by this.

@Xiovanni you, good sir/ma'am, deserve some kind of award 👏🏻

@wsli Thank you for doing some actual research and sharing it. I cringe thinking about the rhyme and how I shared in perpetuating crap like this when I was a kid (this exact rhyme included).

I also wouldn't even waste my energy on trying to debate or change the minds of this crowd. This community has shown it's ass along time ago on these kinds of matters and it's really like clockwork on the tone of the comments.

@mazzel it’s not xenophobia again I was quite clear it wasn’t. I said if it was anything it would be xenophobia and not racism. Unfortunately many people need educating. It’s this faux outrage and misleading accusations of racism that make actual racism hard to fight. It’s a school yard rhyme that’s stupid and shouldn’t be in the film. But at least label it right. There is no appetite to fight xenophobia because people are only interested when the xenophobia is directed in certain directions.

Personally I’d rid the world of all nationalism it’s ridiculous and the only time it should apply is in sports. The world some work together.

That being said, people need to understand comedy and entertainment and intent. People do not have the right to be offended. Often that is the stance people take. It’s fundamentally wrong. People have the right to know and question intent.

People think Fawlty towers is racist. Fundamentally missing the point of who the comedy is mocking and it is in fact mocking those that hold racist and xenophobic views.

Intelligence is underrated.

@Ardisan The fact that a little joke like this is considered a "serious issue" is the actual serious issue.
Doesn't mean someone needs to like the joke (I don't either), but if this is already qualified as a "serious issue" then that devalues all actual serious issues.

@Cheez EXACTLY. You can challenge intent but you can’t be offended out of context.

@mazzel and how does it make them look bad? By suggesting people of both nations have dirty knees?????

Do you HONESTLY believe that’s what the rhyme means???? Cmon on have a day off.

I love dragging this comic out

@iulis84

1. fail in editing how the f did this get into the release

@wsli True you can't decide what triggers other people but they need to stop acting like they have the right to not be offended. Sure, they have the right to not subject themselves to things they find offensive but to try and censor other people because you don't like something is nonsense. Just...don't watch the movie.

seriously living in acomunist dictatorship im guessing most normal chinese people have more deal with than a stupid rhyme. mind you they or well one idiot got upset over winnie the pooh. well loose some weight you FB

@mazzel : @wsli has explained the context here:

"For the people saying it’s not racist I did a little Google’ing as I was never aware about a rhyme like this. But I think it’s always smart todo a little research and take the time to educate yourself before you speak.

One website reads that the rhyme has excused since 1850 and was used by kids to mock Asian people. The rhyme includes hand gestures where the kids say:

“CHINESE” – pulling their eyes into an upward slant
“JAPANESE” – pulling their eyes into a downward slant
“DIRTY KNEES” – pointing to their knees
“LOOK AT THESE” – pulling the tops of their shirts to mimic breasts).

And I don’t think you can decide for someone else if they can be offended or not."

Also to add to that last comment...

Honestly maybe the director had success with his Resident Evil film(and even then I -heard they have a... reputation when it comes to safety on set judges by casualties during the filming of these) but if your niche depends on China for success...

... I don't know, maaaaaybe he could have done some market research about what "not" to do?

@Kidfunkadelic83 of you would spend some time is Asia you would also say that this is categorically also not a right statement 😂👍

I see the white cis het men are telling people what is and isn't offensive in the comments.

@Jayofmaya you are right, I should have said "later Disney movies". The old ones are a mirror of their time.

This is just a stupid situation all around.

Gotta love all the Chinese nationalists who will now go after anything even vaguely remoted to Monster Hunter now. China could wield massive soft cultural power if it would chill out a bit and not seek retribution every time someone... I dunno... makes a bad joke, or acknowledges the existence of Taiwan, or so on.

As to the "joke?" It's deeply dumb, and obviously a racist artifact. Leaving it in a modern film is stupid anyway, but doing so in a year when the Chinese theatrical market is basically the only major one left is

Now all we have left is the inevitably humiliating spectacle of the filmmakers removing the "joke" and then begging for forgiveness from the Chinese.

@Stocksy lol dude, then finally tell me the meaning. Kids don't come up with stuff like this by accident. They get their mindset because of the people/adults around them. If it was not to mock Chinese or Japanese, why put the Wort "dirty" in there? Also, another user did the research for you to point out how this "joke" sometimes was "performed". And that's definitely racist.
Btw. It's weekend, so I'm enjoying a day off on the sofa reading some funny, some intelligent and sadly also some stupid comments on NL.

I'm not sure this is racist, but just lame. Even if it were racist and did offend people, who cares. They have the freedom to do what they want in the film. It might get them banned in China, but most things could get you banned in China. This is a simple example of how a Communist country squashes freedom (of expression in this case). Hopefully people have started to realize how dangerous China truly is to the entire world (especially since they've been more clearly exposed by Trump these last 4 years).

Nothing to do with the movie or even the racist situation (I don't wanna touch that with a barge pole honestly), but I wanna point out how I've seen the term "post-modernism" a few times in here and it seems like people, as usual, don't have the slightest idea what it means, judging by the fact that I've seen it associated both with authoritarianism and the left, which is incredibly funny.
If you knew the first thing about post-modernism, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't preface it with a political attribute.

Make up your minds, people, or, better even, read a philosophy book.
And to those who associate post-modernism to the left in particular, stop listening to the old hack that is Jordan Peterson 😉

@HeyItsFlapjack I think he is making a point saying that if we rely on on adapting our world “by whoever is offended” we will eventually get to a place where we cancel everything because someone is always offended. 99% of the time these days we hear about people being offended on social media. Which is used pretty anonymously for the most part. It’s a scary thought to think that companies use anonymous quotes from social media to get a general vibe of the public.

Because they're soooo politcally correct in China.

@nessisonett,

In all fairness you are always outraged, I would be more surprised if you saw this as a harmless bit of fun. Also I don't see how you or anyone else for that matter, can claim that billions on people are offended by all this.

It is incredibly easy to not be racist

@Burning_Spear,

Yes one place in the world where the all their population are treated so fairly, are not controlled in what they are meant to read by a government controlled media, and have very poor working conditions, which is pointed out on here all the time.

Yes they are always going to ne far more offended by a joke.

@johnvboy The Chinese state are obviously insane and commit massive human rights atrocities. That being said, your average Joe on the street shouldn’t have to deal with slanted eye jokes in 2020.

@nessisonett,

I am sure it's the moral brigade that are far more offended by all this, than the actual people targeted.

Asain guy tells friend to look at his "chi-knees".

You people are insane.

Good. Movie looks like trash.

@TyroKith,

The world has gone mad, it started quite a while ago and has only got worse.

@nessisonett
We don't even know whether the average joe in China even cares about that. I know I wouldn't...

These knees are chinese hahahaha

Tbh, it wasn't even a funny if they thought it was a racist joke. More like a cringe inducing pun. An old knock knock would have been better. But you can't expect Paul W.S. Anderson (the director of RE movies) to be that smart, can you? Joke is that Chinese Government finds it offensive.

If you want to see actual racist comments and assumptions, look no further than these two : @Savino @LillianC14

Seems like another day off "What shall I deem offensive today?"
As @Xiovanni stated earlier, they are now known as "bendthenese"

@mazzel 😂😂 maybe.

It's telling that the same group of people that tried to condemn a certain actress mentioned recently on this site, for what they perceived as sexism, are trying desperately to defend actual racism. What's even more telling that the movie was written by a white, British guy.

The joke was undoubtedly racist, but why are people defending this movie? It is literally just a soulless cash grab directed by the same guy who directed the Resident Evil movies.

@DePurpleMonkey They aren't defending the movie. They're defending the casual racism in the movie.

@Fandabidozi steady now.

@Clyde_Radcliffe Have you seen a Hallmark movie? Pretty good movies with few arbitrarily mean, horrible people.

I wonder if this is "Chinese people are in an uproar" or "Chinese government is in an uproar". The latter seems much more likely but it's hard to tell the difference.

@eaglebob345 Thanks, I literally can't even put myself in the shoes of these bozos.

This movie just keeps getting better and better... @_@

Nobody can`t take a joke anymore. This was just a dumb line. Nothing more than that

@LillianC14 "I see the white cis het men are telling people what is and isn't offensive in the comments"

And you know what each posters race, gender and sexual orientation is, how exactly?

What’s the context of this line?

Is the person trying to say that the Chinese and Japanese have dirt on their knees?

What is racist about that, I don’t understand?

@Diogmites That’s what I was wondering. What is the history of this phrase? I’ve never heard it so I can’t figure out why it’s significant.

It wasn't that long ago that it was fashionable for gamers to complain about Nintendo altering games for the west and shout "CENSORSHIP!". Now it's fashionable to defend the persecution of media because of things deemed "INSENSITIVE!". "We need our 16 year old waifus, but no racism please as it gives me a mix of self righteousness and indigestion".

It's a dumb joke, in what is probably a bad movie. Condemning it won't stop our kids from treating each other horribly. It falls on us to take responsibility for our actions and theirs, not waste time and effort policing a stupid, pointless Paul Anderson + Milla Jovovich shindig. I can't imagine the scenario where this movie harms anyone (other than maybe its audience).

@clvr I stopped listening to Jordan Peterson because I learned enough from him, what do you mean about the post modernism thing and to stop listening to him?

@wsli said "I did a little Google’ing as I was never aware about a rhyme like this. But I think it’s always smart todo a little research and take the time to educate yourself before you speak."

Dude, if people educated themselves before speaking, 95% of the internet would just disappear!

@LillianC14 Nobody’s identity is being presented in the comments section, due to anonymity. There’s nothing wrong with being part of any identity; you can’t fix racism with more racism and more intolerance.

@Ludovsky I found that description as well, but it was from a blog post and the writer went on to say “that’s my best guess for the phrase,” so I wouldn’t all of a sudden make that historical fact.

@Lone_Beagle That’s a good idea, but it depends! Some people actually are educating themselves, but with incomplete or untrue information. Someone will read a single book on a topic and transform into an expert on the subject. Most people will hear some blurb on the news and it becomes fact in their mind, and then a different news source will give a different “fact,” that is slightly different and that’s when you get into arguments! They need the right education, the complete one : )

Ehhh... people are acting like they put the rhyme verbatim into the movie. I agree that the rhyme is offensive, but I don't think the movie is actually referencing it? The entire point was to make the "Chi-knees" pun. Assuming the character/actor is Chinese in some way it actually works. Is it the "Look at these knees" line? That line combines the "Look at these" and "Dirty knees" lines of the rhyme, but doesn't contain either of the racist elements of those lines. Specifically he neither points to his breasts nor uses the word dirty. I don't know, in my opinion the joke in the movie doesn't reflect a usage of a racist playground rhyme, but I'm not Chinese and can't tell them what they can and can't be offended by so I'll defer to their judgement. Not like it matters the movie is toss anyway.

Lol, I don't know what's more pathetic; That they added this obviously dubious line to the film, or that China is so easily triggered by it.

They're both wrong.

@wsli,

That works both ways however, it's not up to you or anyone else to say who should be offended either, or what they should be offended by.

@TG16_IS_BAE hey mate, how's it going? 😃

Well, it's a very complex topic so I'll just tell you that:
1) I've always considered myself apolitical, I've never been erudite and motivated enough to consider myself left-wing or right-wing, and have grown up in a context where I've been exposed to both faces of the coin; that's to say, I may be wrong about politics as I'm pretty ignorant, but I'm probably not biased;

2) I've followed Peterson's speeches on YouTube for a pretty substantial period of time, so I'm familiar with his themes and way of explaining them, and more often than not I found myself agreeing with him;

3) that said, when I started noticing his way of conflating marxism and post-modernism, which are pretty mutually exclusive philosophies, I did what any curious people would: look up both and see whether he was wrong in conflating them, or my knowledge on the matter was erroneous;

4) I started from there and found several interesting videos and articles on the topic which educated me about marxism, post-modernism, and ultimately where Peterson's logic fails
(PhilosophyTube, Lindsay Ellis and Contrapoints all tackled this angle on YT with very substantial videos);

5) ultimately, I extended my research to see if I was "bamboozled" by Peterson on other subjects, and let's say that I don't exactly trust him anymore.

@wsli
Yeah back when I went to school kids made that lame joke all the time. I think this joke is probably indicative of the quality of the overall movie.

@JRRR92
Nothing is objectively offensive. What other ppl see as rude, others may find it humorous.

Offended doesnt mean entitled. But also you have to be accountable of your actions. Want this joke in your movie, fine. Chinese don't want your movie, cause of the joke? Gotta deal with it as well. As the saying goes, "can't pray for rain, then bitch about the mud"

A joke is a joke, if you do not like it I highly suggest that you stay off of the internet.

@PhhhCough
Contents of your comment aside, loving the energy here! xD

The NL community always seems pretty chill until something like this comes up and everyone let's all their ugly thoughts show.

@Arkay,

It's just as bad as calling people racist just because they have a different viewpoint to yourself, a lot of that goes on on here, and the people doing it are just as much part of the problem, as the people they are trying to denounce.

@RandomAfricanGamer,

Hit the nail on the head right there, what one my find offensive another will have no issues with, does not make one or the other right or wrong.

I like how everyone completely ignored Quarth's post.

Anything that offends the Chinese government is fine by me! They are the worst force on the planet.

Imagine if they would have slipped a Winnie the Pooh reference in there.

I'd refuse to see this movie for this atrocious dialogue too. Premise already gave me a feeling of the horrendous writing and ideas. If this movie was just straight up more like the games there wouldn't even be this dumb nonsense in it. It would straight up just take place IN THE WORLD OF MONSTER HUNTER from the start and it would have been a cool opportunity to include more in world jokes and mannerisms, etc.

@johnvboy people are called racist for racist viewpoints.

Something tells me that Monster Hunter Rise could have their release date moved, if the same problem arises in the U.S. When the movie comes out in North America in about a couple of weeks

I wonder is something typically Chinese times with spaceship and battleship.

That joke made me laugh

@Stocksy I think the difference is that historically and socially, English people are not stigmatized to the extent that Chinese people are. For example, someone might automatically assume a Chinese individual is good at math, therefore affecting whether or not they receive additional support at school. As for English people, these stigmas are simply nonexistent. It’s the difference between oppressed people and people who are not. Hope I’m being clear.

I always pegged the Chinese as a strong and proud nation. This makes them look like a soft bunch of fannies.

@PhhhCough I'm guessing you've never listened to why right wingers have issues with masks and background checks. The masks debate mostly stems from libertarian philosophy, they believe that they know what's best for their body and they believe no one can tell them what to do with it. The my body my choice argument actually works here. You can argue that they might be endangering other people by doing this but so do the people who drive cars. They can hit anyone for various reasons, distractions, lack of sleep etc. by leaving your home you're always taking a risk. On the gun thing, most people are in favor of sensible gun control measures but some laws go a bit far or make up stupid and vague rules. It all depends on what is in the proposed bill. I'M IN FAVOR of background checks for people with violent histories, sometimes the background check doesn't define what the violent action was though, it could have been in self defense and in that case they ought to be able to own a gun, if it's an attack that person started, then no they shouldn't be allowed to have a gun. Some laws don't do this and those are the kinds that most people oppose. I've never seen or heard a conservative reject human rights, most are in favor of more and protecting the existing ones, hence the "conserve" in "conservative". If there is some kind of objection to humans rights then they probably aren't actually conservative and are just using that label because they don't know better or they think that's where they belong.

Not looking for a debate, just talking about the viewpoints and where they come from on these subjects.

@Ironcore The CCP act proud and strong but they've always been weak, you can't even compare their leader to Winnie the Pooh. It's such a weak insult...

@KillerBOB See I'd agree with you here but this joke is more so aimed at Asians, if it was a joke JUST about the CCP then I'd have no issue with it.

@Damo add that to your article, not the comments.

@johnvboy I wasn't calling them that for their different viewpoints though, called them out for their accusations and assumptions.
You do have a point though as it comes from both sides.

That would be the 2020 kind of "racist"

This is apparently the joke that got the movie pulled:

"What kind of knees are these? Chi-knees."

Cheesy writing, but ...

Yes, that's clearly an example of one race judging themselves superior to another or another inferior to them based on their race, and/or also from a position of obvious hatred.

Call the hate police!

Par for the course with Chinese censorship. Obviously I don't think it should be outright cancelled across the country, but they've made far worse decisions to be outraged by, like imprisoning hundreds of thousands of people and forcing them into labour.

As for the offending joke itself, even if you don't agree with censorship, that is objectively terrible writing.

@_Blueblaze 100% and in England I agree with those stereotypes that exist are hurtful and counter productive and I stand 100% against xenophobia and racism..... But in China - those examples arent the same and this is about the whole of China banning a film for three lines.

I’ve not seen the film so I don’t know if there is more the the scene as obviously it could be more offensive than those three lines.

If I was editing the film - those lines wouldn’t have been in for full clarity on my position.

Worst country on the planet offended by something so stupid. Pathetic..........

"It begs the question"

Begging the question is a logical fallacy where one or more of your premises requires the proposition they are meant prove to be true, ie: God is real because the bible was written by God and says he's real.

It is NOT, and has never been, a statement that naturally leads to a question. While language is morphic, you are still objectively wrong when you use jargon like this with specific, technical meanings, incorrectly. It's not the same as, for example, using "literally" in the wrong context because there are other ways to talk about literally vs. figuratively. There is NO way to identify the logical fallacy if you misuse it's proper name.

You write for a living. Do better.

Well China and the West don’t exactly get along. They have been bitter foes for the past 200 years.

@Stocksy Good point. Kinda odd for them to not premiere it over something seemingly so small.

The pun is really bad, but once you comprehend the context of it and the connotations, you start to understand the outrage. With that said, I still think that there was no need to 'ban' it. So many ***** racists in the comments sections, by the way...

"What?”
"Look at my car!"
"What kind of car is that?"
"Madagas-car !"

What does that joke even mean?

@Trajan I think because there is not full context to the line in the clip; people are desperate to find context. That’s how the old rhyme came into play.

On its own I don’t get it. Maybe he spilled Chai tea on his knees.

@Clyde_Radcliffe you haven't watched the movie you don't know what the character motivation is (and I feel bad for you if you think that is great story writing). But from the clip it literally adds nothing to the scene other than cringe as I said.

Literally okaying racism (no matter how minor you think it is) and it's just bad writing. It is pure schlock.

Anyways really worry for this site's community and culture.

@Damo it's called White privilege's that forgets whom gets the short end of the stick. And to those whom aren't part of the minority that gets discriminated against you have no f&&^^ clue what it feels like. Glad they cancelled it so White Studios gets a reality check. Just like the Country music were they claim a Black man country music wasn't Country aka White Country music.

Its a bad Joke, People calling this Racism have no Idea how real Racism and Discrimination work and feel.

China is incredibly vengeful and spiteful. The movie may as well not even come out there. Don't believe me? Look into Kiryu Coco and Akai Haato. The former of which is still being harassed daily.

@Specters I'm not "okaying racism" I'm okaying movie writer's right to include FICTIONAL racist characters in their movies as well as every other type of unpleasant or pleasant character across the spectrum of human personalities. It's not for keyboard warriors on Twitter or others to dictate to writers what they can do with the scripts of their own movies because they're easily offended. The movie being bad or trashy is besides the point.

Too complex for me. Should rappers be allowed to use the n word and offensive language. They make millions. Censorship about what is allowed and not allowed hurts my head xxx

@Clyde_Radcliffe okay here then do this for me since you truly believe that this scene is great character writing and exemplify unpleasant human personalities that needs to be included. Please tell me the name of the character, their character motivation, how this racist comment furthers the story and the character, how this scene is integral to the movie.

Hey, remember when Ip Man 4 released in America and it wasn't censored despite portraying nearly every white male as a hateful racist? Yeah, me too.

@Specters I'm not the one complaining about the scene so I don't need to, but the line will be in there to show what kind of person the character is, as is the case in all films.

@Clyde_Radcliffe Oh but you are complaining, in fact you've been arguing over several posts that it is part of the character and integral to the development of the character and story to include this childish racist comment. Yet you can't explain how it is or why it is.
Again racist or not (it is racist), this is just bad writing and should have been cut regardless. You've probably put more thought into defending it than the writers put into any scene in this movie.

@PunkRx_Lockly
Just looking up the name of the movie, here’s the synopsis: “Ip Man and his son encounter racial discrimination after traveling to the United States to seek a better life.”

Yeah. It seems like that was the premise of the movie.

When I look at the Wikipedia page, it says that it takes place in 1964.

It was set during the civil rights era.

Having white men be hateful in that movie is historically accurate, so your criticism is a little strange.

@Damo why am I not surprised clickbait expert Damo wants to do as little work as possible lol

@Kirby_Girl,

To be fair that's a very simplistic view of the matter, and it's not always as simple as people make out.

I wanted to comment earlier but my head hurts so much from the stupidity of the reasoning that i just didn't bring myself to replying to this ridiculousness until hours after i meant too.

At this stage i expect, in terms of China and what we are seeing, this is only the beginning.

@Azuris,

Agree, things like this tend to detract from actual cases or racism and discrimination.

@idrawrobots Exactly.

@eaglebob345,

What you say depends on what is deemed racist in the first place, and to suggest people are defending racism within the movie is incorrect, because this assumes your own and others personal views on the subject are correct n the first place.

@Savino,

Not helpful, as it suggests that if the guy is white he is somehow not entitled to his opinion, just because he can't possibly see it from the certain groups perspective.

@Savino,

No I think it's you that have all this mixed up, there has to be room for different points of view on this and all subjects. Hell, we may not always agree with one another, but trying to judge people based on a few posts on a comment section is hardly fair.

@ritouf
Just another day at NL. 😎

Is it snowing in here because i see a lot of snowflakes around world has gone soft all about peoples feeling these day when did you all get so soft.

Imagen if they watch American dad.

Is the guy making the joke Chinese? Cause if he is then his knee is Chinese which mean it really is a Chinese knee... anyway all jokes aside, the knee joke is stupid and the idea of having it in the film is stupid, big oopsie on their part, they clearly dropped the ball on that one.

@johnvboy Whether you believe it's racism or not, it's still racism. Also, racism is not "a different point of view", it's racism.

https://www.rd.com/list/childrens-nursery-rhymes-that-are-actually-racist/

@Savino I think the example in the clip above is at least debatable.

A charitable interpretation (as presented elsewhere) is that it's a poorly written self-referential joke, which is my perception as a mixed-race Asian living in predominantly (~80%) ethnically Chinese Singapore.

Though I agree racism is racism, what constitutes racism is clearly subjective as we're talking about interpretation. So if some (of various ethnicities) can perceive a statement as not racist, do we need to impute a bad faith motive to the movie?

Or would you consider this under the category of irrelevant, it's racist?

Also, how do you handle situations like the Uncle Roger youtube character by Nigel Ng? To me, his caricature of Asian stereotypes is racist, but clearly he doesn't believe so as an Asian man of Chinese descent? It seems like the world is more complex than racism is racism, despite us being in agreement on that statement

@Dragonslacker1 If you really cant tell, look up Key & Peele's Negraph App video. It contains all the information you'd need to know.

@shaneoh yeah, anything and everything can be considered “offensive” but the question I rarely hear asked is if something that offends someone is HARMFUL.

The clip of the alleged offense didn’t even register to me as racist because I heard worse hurled at me and that sounds like something my elementary school teacher would say and the whole class (which had a lot of Asians including yours truly) would roll their eyes at such a corny joke.

It’s easier for people to say they are offended and to use overtly general and circular arguments than to actually spell out how it’s harmful.

@wsli That’s why it should be up to viewers whether they’re offended - not these big companies or communist-globalist overlords.

@Stocksy Exactly. Let the people decide. If they’re offended they’ll tell their friends not to watch. It’ll lose money.

Point is, the choice should reside with people.

Typical of the US/UK based gaming crowd to defend a clearly racist joke, if the film had a character making a "joke" involving the N word would you defend that?

"Chinese, Japanese, dirty knees - look at these"

Who thought this was a good idea? Its SUPER racist

@WaveWitch I agree. I'm Asian and don't condone racism, but we have to remember that movies are more or less a reflection of real life, warts and all. Unless the whole aim of the movie was to promote racism, we should just keep in mind that there are no perfect characters in movies just as there aren't in real life.

The movie looks like absolute garbage anyway

All I got from this is that a film that we already knew was going to inhale all kinds of posterior is in fact (surprise, surprise) badly written.

And yet it incited a 200+ post riot from which I will quickly retreat as I have endured my share of petty indignation for one week.

You don't bite the hands that feed you!

@Chamver Sure, keep telling China what they can be offended for...

Well...I guess their market, their people, their rules... Movie makers should just have cut this part out of the movie and release the full movie uncut in other countries, that's how others have been doing. This mistake will certainly have some backlash.

I think what many here need to remember is Asian countries are most likely the biggest market this film is aimed at so making a racist joke about them is clearly a stupid move. Those defending this i would sure like you to go to your local Chinese takeaway and say this to them and then tell them to get over it.

Found online:
"To localize the joke, translators made the dialogue a reference to a Chinese colloquialism about how men must have dignity and not kneel down easily. “Men have gold under their knees, and only kneel to the heavens and their mother,” the saying goes in rough translation, implying that any time a man kneels, it should be an occasion precious as gold."
Still not sure how this is offensive but it adds some insight to the situation.

@RandomAfricanGamer

"Just looking up the name of the movie, here’s the synopsis: “Ip Man and his son encounter racial discrimination after traveling to the United States to seek a better life."

Did you actually see the movie yourself, or did you just read the synopsis to form an opinion?

"Yeah. It seems like that was the premise of the movie.
When I look at the Wikipedia page, it says that it takes place in 1964. It was set during the civil rights era. Having white men be hateful in that movie is historically accurate, so your criticism is a little strange."

True, it is around a time where racism was more prevalent than today, and it is one of the sources of Ip Man's grievance, but what the movie failed to recognize was that not every white person was a racist then either. Ever heard of the hippie movement? The Jesus movement? What about the fact that military men, even for that time, were generally less racist because they routinely work with and train foreigners?

The movie utterly fails to address these exceptions and paints all whites as unhinged, blood curdling racists. It was obviously a political hit-piece against America, no doubt incited by the Sino-US trade wars of late.

Wow, it seems like every racist on Nintendo Life came to defend this joke

@GrailUK
The Chinese: a great bunch of lads.

Honestly, who cares if it's offensive? When I hear something offensive, I don't lose it. I just move on. In fact, being offended by something tells me, as a person, that I am more evolved. I would be worried about myself if I wasn't offended.

However, this is the difference between a free country and not a free country.

In a free country, you, as a person, simply consider it bad taste and move on.

In a non-free country: government ban and no one can make the choice to consider it bad taste and move on!

@WaveWitch Context is important, but people don't look for that, they retrofit "Woke" into everything.

Anything can be offensive, but the real question if it is actually HARMFUL.

Double-standards and tunnel vision also apply if they complain about this grandpa joke being racist, but everyone acting offended ignores the genocide for Uighurs that is an actual thing being done by the CCP.

Welcome to the 21st century, cupcakes.

@SullenSamurai I heard this racist rhyme all the time as a child

All the people here being like "If it's offensive just ignore it" would you defend some joke about POC being Monkeys if it was that instead?

@PunkRx_Lockly
I see what you’re saying. However, I wouldn’t consider the movie a political hit piece. Then again, I’ve never seen the movie... 😅

@eaglebob345,

Who suggests this is racist, and how are they coming to that conclusion in the first place?. I would say in this case it's mildly offensive at best.

And once again people fail to see any context which the phrase was used within this movie, as for starters I doubt anyone has actually watched it. Somebody did point out on here that the time in which this move was set that it may be accurate depiction of the type of person using this sort of language, so once again the full picture of events is required before jumping to any conclusion.

We can't always label everything racist automatically without knowing the context and circumstances, and we also need to know the difference between what is racist, and what is just offensive, of course offence is very personal.

@Entrr_username racism doesn't have to be intentional to be racist. That's why the biggest and most devastating type of racism, systemic racism, is so insidious. Because it's not a bunch of people in white hoods perpetuating it, it's normal non-racist people within systems all contributing a tiny tiny part of it, which all adds up to a big whole. So there's not one person you can blame it on and simply fire them and be done with it, whole systems need to be broken down and rebuilt.

Some people seem to think racism is only when some idiot is shouting racist slurs at someone on the street. Unfortunately it's not just that. And something can seem completely innocuous like a stupid joke in a silly movie and nobody pick up on it before it gets shown in cinemas

It's not that the writer or director or actor is racist, or something like that. Nobody is saying that at all, despite what a lot of comments in this comments thread seem to wish was true so they can cry and go "OMG everyone's offended at everything these days!“ cos they're desperate to be victims. It's just a minor thing, the movie is in hold for now, they'll edit it in a day and then release it again. It's not huge news or anything, it's not the downfall of society. It's just a dumb little quirk in a bad movie that's related to video games

@DePurpleMonkey,

That's the problem right there, anyone with a different point of view is the enemy, rather than simply accepting people will have different views on a subject which will lead to healthy debate, people will always resort to the old line "You do not agree with me therefore you are a racist", it's not helpful in the slightest and does not help the debate.

In worse cases have actually seen in the media social and television, people actually having a go at a certain group they feel have been slurred in some way, because the group themselves are not offended, suggesting they should be offended, which in itself is intolerant.

@AnorakJimi,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BprthDJeW04

I think if more people listened to Thomas Sowell, rather than the biased media, things would be a lot better.

@Fandabidozi Hahah

Out of context, the joke "What kind of knees are these? Chinese!" is of course not racist. But if it makes the audience think about a well known racist rhyme, it's perhaps understandable that they don't want to show it. On the other hand, worse crimes than racism are often shown in film, so it's still interesting.

@kuzronk,

It would always depend on the context, your comment is a closed off option, there is no outcome other than the defender being racist, so not sure where we could go with this.

@Razer,

This comment needs more elaboration, I am as they say intrigued to know more.

If a lame rhyme like that is the kind of genius writing we can expect from this film's script, they may be better off without this clear Oscar contender

Those that are upset on the behalf of China, do they also hold China to account for their terrible treatment of Muslims? Their atrocious human rights record? Or you just focusing on a dirty knees rhyme? It seems to me the people that should be “so knowledgeable” on what’s “racist” would also be against persecution on ones creed? Or you limit your white knighting to lines in video game move tie ins?

Genuinely interested to know?

People are so soft now. Can't say anything without someone being offended. Can tell jokes anymore. People need to grow up if the slightest thing gets them angry

Weird he would leave that in for the China release, especially in today's culture. That was a well known racist rhyme used all the way up Vietnam. Source: My own grandparents who fought in Korea too. Unless its used to accentuate what an a-hole that character is. Anyway, odd choice as the director is old enough to know it in the first place.

Secondly, the ignorance in this comment section is just sad. Couple dabs of veiled hate in there too. Smdh.

@johnvboy I don't want to talk politics here, I don't feel it's the right place for this.

In short. I personally feel China is taking a more aggressive approach to global relations in an attempt to insert it's global hegemony.

This is all part of that. This is political and it has nothing to do with taking offence to a joke.

The ridiculous part is China using a silly joke (said by an Asian actor no less) to ban this.

This is China laying down it's governance on other organisations in other countries and effectively hurting their business.

@Razer,

Totally agree with you, thanks for the explanation.

The film looks awful so not a big loss.

My comment, which jokingly said the only people more fragile than the Chinese are those in the comment sections of the internet, was deleted.
Thank you for proving my point.

Typical western view in using politics as an excuse for covering up any abuse we do to the east. What about Uighur Muslims in China? What about human rights in NKorea? What about corruption in India?

To expand this whataboutism, what about bombing the Muslims when we don't like them? Did we find those "Mass Destructive Weapon" in Iraq yet? Not trying to excuse them, but what the Chinese do to a state in their country are peanuts in comparison to what we do to the whole middle east. Have you thought about how many muslim have died and how many Muslim families have shattered throughout the war? But that's OK when we do it, because we the almighty do it in the name of freedom.

Racist is racist, a word or a pun can be a joke to a culture but can also be insult to another. Recently United's Cavani just used the word Nxxxxto to compliment his mate. For Spanish people it's absolutely nothing, it actually mean sweetheart, but in UK, it's a big no no. Suarez was banned for 10 games for using it against Evra. But now we're saying the Chinese shouldn't be offended by a term (knee) we think it's not offensive (Even though the actual context is super offensive). Double standard much?

Stop defending racism.

@lzb2811,

You assume it's offensive to the people involved, no proof of this whatsoever, outside of your own and others personal view that it is indeed offensive.

And when you start using the word "typical" at the start of your comment it shows intolerance to differing points of view.

@johnvboy

Tell that to Patrick Evra. BTW the proofs are all over the comment section. There is no way to convince you if you refuse to see it.

According to you I can call you a xaxt, that's completely fine because it's not the exact same term as xuxt, you assume it's offensive to you, no proof of this whatsoever, outside of your own personal view that it is indeed offensive.

@lzb2811,

So you are suggesting everything is racist, by pointing out actual cases of racism, then suggesting everything else is too.

Sounds reasonable.

@lzb2811,

The only proof on this comment section is that some are offended and some are not, I don't think you could take a few people's views on a comment section, and then state it's definitive either way.

@johnvboy

Any word can be used in a offensive way if your intention is there. Let's use human body in this case, since we're talking about knee. Is the term bald and short offensive? Use it in an offensive way and you'll offend a lot of people.

But as I said, there is nothing I can do if you refuse to acknowledge it. Feel free to convince yourself it's acceptable. And at the same time, try to convince this man too: https://twitter.com/Evra

@lzb2811,

Why do you resort to me having to speak to a person affected by racism?, you seem to be hell bent on me doing so.

Also you are coming across as very judgemental by starting and closing your initial comment as you are in the right, with no room for discussion into the matter, and it still will boil down to an individuals reaction to a word as you suggested, bit once again we throw all context and individual circumstance out of the window, by just simply suggesting every comment or word is racist, if viewed from a certain point of view.

Also what is your view is somebody says something with no intention to cause offence, are they subject to the same rules .

@Tourtus Said: I've never seen or heard a conservative reject human rights, most are in favor of more and protecting the existing ones, hence the "conserve" in "conservative".

Them's some purty words, but that's not what the conserve in conservative comes from. Most consider themselves fiscal conservatives and small government conservatives. Unless it's other people's bedrooms, then big intrusive government is fine.

As for the mask vs cars, we have laws regarding seat belts. Here in the states the' muh freedums' argument gets used a lot to defend people thinking they can choose which laws to abide by.

There are enough snowflakes now to make a blizzard, but the storm is coming from the right.

@k8sMum,

You have to define left or right, because most times we only see the extremes of each side.

@johnvboy Historically, it's a jingle racist white people used to teach their children about asians. It didn't take me long at all to find that information. It seems like you're so preoccupied with deciding that it's not offensive that you didn't even try to find out why it is.

@eaglebob345,

I don't need an education lesson from somebody on here to understand why something in the past was racist, I am fully aware of this and other phrases.

My issue is there is always a lot of assuming going on, basically suggesting with no evidence whatsoever, that millions of people are offended by something, I only stated that I do not think this is such a big deal, as others have also suggested in this comment section, so we simply disagree, that does not make me or anyone else on here automatically racist.

I agree that this is overblown, but this is the same country that'll ban Winnie the Pooh, so I mean... shoulda seen that coming.

@johnvboy This entire time I've not called you or anyone else here racist. I said there are people on here defending casual racism, in a trash movie. If you think that makes you a racist then so be it. You don't get to decide if racist remarks are still racist just because you don't think that the offended person(s) or group should be offended. That's now how that works. That's not how any of that works.

@eaglebob345,

In that case I apologize to you, but there have been some who have suggested as such, I just want a decent discussion on the matter, which on the whole has been the case, sorry for any offence.

But what you said does work both ways, as the other side has no right to say what is racist and who should be offended or not either.

@BLD,

Oh they should ban that Pooh fella, he is a disgrace.

@johnvboy There's no need to apologize. I dont think you or most of the people here are racist. I do think a lot of people are just misunderstanding the problem. It is true that the offending party does not get to decide who is offended, regardless of their opinion. That's what I've been saying this whole time. Just because someone doesn't understand why something offends someone else does not mean that that something isn't offensive. I understand that some people feel that people are "too sensitive" but that sentiment doesn't really apply for a number of things, like racism, sexism, homophobia, ageism, etc.

@eaglebob345,

Agree with a lot of what you say, but there has to be levels of offence, as surely some things said are worse than others. The main issue is there is no definitive rulebook regarding any of this, and it's tends to be down to either the party involved or the observers individual tolerance to certain things.

@Chamver explain the Joke to me

@ChaosBadger777 it’s always fascinating to see that the racism experts have no clue what actually entails racist acts.

Sure, white peoples can be called a honkey or cracker, but they’re not historically disenfranchised from the right to vote, own property, create generational wealth, or be targeted by the state at a rate disproportionate to the crime statistics.

@k8sMum Well in the U.S. conservative can mean a lot of different things, the conservatives I was talking about were the constitutional conservatives which are some of the most common ones. Conserving the constitution means conserving human rights. This ideal often goes hand in hand with fiscal, libertarian (the people who want small government) and traditionalist conservatives. Also, Democrats weren't always in favor of homosexual relationships. You can look up speeches, interviews and more about them saying they weren't in favor of it, notably the Clintons. Obama was the same but he and others on the right and left changed their mind at some point. It wasn't always the right against homosexuality. Most conservative talking heads don't really care anymore and just want to persevere religious freedoms. That is to say they want churches and synagogues to keep the ability to reject a same sex marriage if they want to and to not be persecuted for it, which is a libertarian position as it hinders governmental powers in favor of personal liberties and it's also a "separation of church and state" argument because the state can't tell the church what to do, just as the church can't tell the state what to do. Say what you want about that but that's where the conservatives are on the subject. I'm not saying they're right or wrong on the subject and I'm not saying you need to agree with them, just laying out their stances and where their thinking comes from.

As for the car thing, I was merely saying that driving a car puts the driver and those around them at risk. Car crashes are common and they happen everywhere. It's safer to ride a bike or walk to your destination. The same thing applies to the masks, you can keep people safe by wearing one (If you're infected, if you're not you should be wearing a face shield) but it should be up to the individual whether or not they want to wear one. That's the argument. I wear a mask, it really isn't a big deal but I'm not going to fight someone who doesn't want to wear one.

@Damo and how many things do Asians (in Asia) do to make fun of English or Americans.

Not sure it's quite right that the premiere has been cancelled. I saw it in Shenzhen Friday night. Local audience didn't seem to notice the throwaway moment. Cancelling for not exactly being a good film and for Tony Jaa being the best actor (not fighter) on screen could be justifiable reasons for pulling it. Not bad dad jokes told in a bad dad joke way. Still, little silly to include it, knowing how touchy netizens are. Especially, if reports are accurate and they are relying on the Chinese box office for the film to make money.

I understand being upset about the movie. However, the 1000 negative reviews on Steam is why a ton of game reviews are absolutely useless. What next, negative reviews for Super Mario Bros. because of that horrible movie from the 80s?

China gets easily offended on things that seem less than to us. That is just the way it is. This could have just been avoided if someone did research before hand. Especially seeing how the franchise is a big one across Asia.

And also they are the biggest market for movies this year and next. So making sure it meets standards there is a bigger deal.

What is most offensive is that a writer got paid for that lame joke. A five year old kid could have given it to them for free.

Ah, a clickbait article. Who is reporting on this, I wonder?

Ah, Damo.

Ah.

@Specters
I havent gotten to see the movie ive been waiting for, what joke or racial slur was used that could of been so extrememly offensive.
What was the line?
Tell me the line and so i can better understand your opinion and reasoning.

@damien33ad
Ive been waiting for this movie and now apparently china says its racist joke or slur is too offensive.
What was the line that was so offensive???
I cant think of anything more offensive than one of my favorite shows southpark lol
What line was so bad?

Wait! Did I miss something?
Since when is China or Japan a part of Monster Hunter?
Is this movie actually realworld mesh trash instead of Monster Hunter's fantasy world?

Jin Au-yeung character says “look at my knees” which he than follows up by asking a question “what kind of knees are these?” Jin Au-yeung character answers his own question by proclaiming “chi-knees”. Why is this not in the article? The actor doesn’t say dirty knees or Japanese, just a play on words chi-knees. Would be like someone asking where all the gerwomen are. A pun or joke, perhaps not a good one to some but that’s subjective.

They had to do the racists jokes... Just wow..

American stereotype: Is in a movie
Nobody: Nothing
Some lame joke about Asians: Is in a movie
Everyone: Hates on Capcom and cancels the whole movie

why did they say that again? Dosen't suit MH

@Arkenfell dude there is literally a video embedded in the article of the clip plus the article itself explains it...seriously don't come to an article asking what everyone is talking about without reading it.

@Specters
There is a video that is disabled. Maybe im missing something