Ambassador_Kong

@sword_9mm 100% correct. Nintendo's loss of market dominance was caused by Nintendo.

N64: cartridges in a disc based world because piracy.
Gamecube: mini disc because piracy and the system looked like a purple lunch box.
Wii: underpowered and couldn't play dvds.
WiiU: underpowered, proprietary disc format that couldn't play blurays, bad marketing, game pad made no sense.
Switch: underpowered, lack of third party support, rehash / port machine.

@San_D Think it had more to do with the fact that Chinatown Wars was a flop.

@nhSnork Pretty sure that's a logical fallacy. I could argue that filet mignon is cheaper than chicken thighs if I use the price of filet mignon from thirty years ago and the price of chicken from today. The PS4 and the Switch have been the same price since the Switch's launch.

The fact of the matter that raw power and storage was sacrificed for the sake of portability and Switch owners will continue to suffer because of it. But using legacy components has always been a Nintendo thing and third parties have passed over Nintendo because of it.

@nhSnork what are you talking about the PS4 and Switch are the same price, so he's actually expecting $300 innards in a $300 device.

Sony execs: The PS5 pre-orders were a disaster. Online sales started 24 hours before we told our fans they would go on sale and now we're being torn apart by fans and critics for our incompetence. We'll be known as the worst gaming company this generation. What should we do?

Nintendo: Hold my beer.

"This is all conjecture, of course;"

It's beyond conjecture. It's complete fan fiction.

"It's also worth taking into consideration that there's been a global pandemic this year. Nintendo has reminded us how the disruptions have also personally impacted it throughout the year time and time again."

The article you link to specifically says that none of the games for this fiscal year have been affected by the virus. First, making excuses for Nintendo is bad journalism, but out-and-out lying is not journalism at all.

@everynowandben The Miyamoto statement made sense when there was no internet for updating code.

@HammerKirby

Because
a) Nintendo owners only by Nintendo games
b) Better versions of most third party games can be played on different systems and usually cheaper.

@B_Lindz Really? I don't remember RDR 2, Final Fantasy VII remake, Resident Evil 7, 2, 3, Sekiro, Control, any Call of Duty, Borderlands 3, Jedi Fallen Order, Monster Hunter World, Devil May Cry 5, Hitman 2 (or 1 for that matter), Avengers, Cyberpunk, Assassins Creed Valhalla, Nioh 2, Watchdogs, Tony Hawk, Star Wars Squadrons, Kingdom Hearts 3, or dozens of others getting announced.

I do remember the Switch getting the worst versions of Outer Worlds though.

@AlexSora89 I think Nintendo sees the writing on the wall. After three years, the Switch still has very little third party support and they know this is only going to get worse as the new consoles will create an even bigger divide between the Switch and the next generation consoles. They have two choices - go third party or build a better console. It seems they're going to attempt another console.

Galaxy 2 and Galaxy are the best by a country mile. 64 followed by Sunshine and 3D Land then World.

Odyssey is dead last because it's a tedious slog that never becomes an actual Mario game.

@electrolite77 I say they should go third party because they should gonthird party. They have proven over and over that they can't produce enough content to maintain a console on first party alone and their lack of console power guarantees that they can't deliver enough third party content either. This, of course, will become much worse when the new Xbox and PS consoles launch.

I work with games all day so I couldn't escape Nintendo even if I wanted to, but I can add my 40 years of experience to the conversation and hope they improve in the future which I think is more productive than glossing over their shortcomings and praising everything they do.

Tony Hawk 1 + 2, Tomb Raider Definitive edition which I picked up for $2 off the Playstation store, and possibly Dark Souls 2 if I'm feeling masochistic.

Switch will continue to gather dust unless I feel like playing some All-Stars from the recent Online update.

@electrolite77 I've been with Nintendo since the release of the NES and have owned every console since except for the virtual boy so I believe I have earned my right to be here.

@carlos82 @TG16_IS_BAE Spoken like a person that has never played RDR or any open world game not called BOTW.

@status-204 It's not an option because, according to Nintendolife, everything Nintendo makes is pure gold.

80% of respondents have either ordered or will purchase the game.

This is exactly why Nintendo never changes. They could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and wouldn't lose a sale.

@HotGoomba I'm not going to bother with what you wrote because I value my time and sanity, but I was 100% serious that Nintendo should go third party. They can't produce a competitive console and that keeps third parties from producing games for their system which leads to months long / year long droughts of games. Nintendo likes to pretend that they aren't competing with Microsoft and Sony, but they are. There is a long history of companies that thought that they inhabited special niches in their industries only to discover they were wrong. IBM was the biggest producer of computers in America until they bet against home computers. Kodak couldn't figure a way to survive in a world without film. Xerox, Sears, AOL are all companies that used to be the heads of their industries until they forgot that customers change and so must business practices.

Nintendo might not end up on the garbage heap of failed businesses, but they exhibit the same arrogance and lack of awareness that led those other companies down the path of failure. I suspect their inability to fill a release calendar is going to be their downfall and no amount of bargain basement indie developers is going to keep them afloat. Their refusal to produce a console that can run the newest games would not be a problem if they could produce enough games on their own, but they can't even now that the 3DS is dead. Nintendo is an interesting game developer (although I believe their most creative years are far behind them), but they're horrible console designers. They always use outdated technology to keep costs down and rely on gimmicks to generate interest. They are completely ignorant of modern trend and industry standards - online, trophies, graphical power, robust third party support.

As a game developer only, they could focus on what they do best (developing games) without making their fans feel like they're missing out on all the biggest releases. It's a smart move and would expand their customer base.

@Moroboshi876 The Wii was a novelty that fed on the nostalgia of Gen Xers who had just become parents. Motion controls were a fad that came and went very quickly. The fact that Nintendo still seems to think there is a market for waggle controls is perplexing.

@Chowdaire @HotGoomba I really doubt that the Spyro and Crash and Tony Hawk games were so well done because Activision was horrible to the team that created the collections. I think the collections were good because the teams decided to release products they were proud of. The fact that Activision and Ubisoft and Project Red treat their employees badly (and are horrible companies that should be burned to the ground) is a completely separate issue. [Note: a 2015 ranking of the best and worst gaming companies to work for actually placed Nintendo below EA, Activision, and Ubisoft. Also note this article from 2017 shows that Nintendo is just as bad (if not worse) than other gaming companies - https://www.thegamer.com/miserabl-reasons-working-at-nintendo-is-the-worst/.]

Nintendo creating a pathetic 3D collection and a barren release schedule isn't a sign of them loving their employees; it's a sign of their complete lack of respect for their customers and inability to adapt to a market that expects a constant stream of new games to keep gamers invested. Is it a surprise that the same company that still hasn't figures out online, doesn't know how to release a retro collection? Is it shocking that a company that releases consoles that are generation behind the industry can't fill a release schedule? The only surprise is that there are still people willing to defend a company that thinks people still want to waggle controllers.

I think there are a few words that can be pointed at as a reason to discard a persons comments - entitled and selfish. Gamers wanting games that are well made are not being entitled, they are customers. I know what I expect from a game in the year 2020 and if a company doesn't want to meet that expectation, there is another company waiting to take my cash. I also don't think it is selfish to want to play games on a console that someone has purchased. The PS4 has made it through the year of a pandemic because they provided a robust platform that attracted many developers to make games for it. I'm sure many things were pushed around because of the virus, but there were other projects that were able to fill the holes.

Nintendo really needs to go third party. They've proven again and again that they just don't have what it takes to put out enough games or attract enough developers to support their under powered consoles. As a third party developer they could take all the time they want to develop games and gamers can enjoy a steady stream of content from other sources between their releases.

@HotGoomba The lengths people go to defend the indefensible are amazing. Nintendo has proven over the last 20 years they are one of the laziest and greediest companies in the industry and people actually defend their barren releases when Nintendo themselves said the virus didn't cause any delays in this years schedule which means they had nothing planned.

In a world with the Spyro and Crash and Tony Hawk re-releases, the 3D Mario Collection is an insult, but of course this is a company that slapped Super Mario All-Stars on a disc and released it at full price.

@Chowdaire The games weren't created in the last six months. They've been in development for years. Nintendo themselves stated the pandemic has no effect on games that we're scheduled to release this year which means they had nothing planned. Under powered console + lazy first party development = no games.

Also their Maio 3D collection is a lazy joke. Even Konami put more effort into their Castlevania Collection and Konami is one of the worst developers around.

@HotGoomba Weird that the global pandemic seems to have only effected Nintendo. PS4 has been knocking out a bunch of quality games this year.

@John_Koshiro You forgot to mention the complete lack of first party content. It's worse than the WiiU and they don't even have the 3DS taking up development time anymore,

@Incoherent1

Why? What has Nintendo done in the last 10 years that would make you think they would do anything except the least amount of work for the most money? Sony has had a great year for releases and the PS4 is on the way out, yet the Switch has been a barren wasteland of low effort releases.

Another day. Another rumor of a game maybe coming to Switch even though it was announced for all the other consoles months ago.

@Dang69 couldn't have said it better. Nintendo has released games this year, but none have been very appealing. Third party is a mixed bag of broken (Outer Worlds), old (released years ago on other platforms), or just fine but not up to the same quality as the bigger console releases.

The 3DS received a lot of third party support composed of games designed specifically for the system, but there has been very little of this for the Switch. It's odd that a system that sells so well get so little support from developers. Yes, there are games released on it every week, but 90% of those games were slapped together by tiny developers looking to make a quick buck.

Compare this to the PS4 which has managed to have a great release year even though there is a pandemic. We aren't seeing releases on the Switch, it's because there wasn't enough planned and when the PS5 and NextBox release, it will only get worse.

Skyward Sword isn't coming to the Switch because that would be a game and Nintendo doesn't like to put games on the Switch. They just like to sell consoles that you can load up with overpriced shovelware from the eshop.

NIntendolife really has to go to great lengths to find new to report since there aren't any games for the Switch. Heck, even one of their front page articles is about a game that is confirmed to not be coming to Switch. Nintendo has a tremendously successful platform and is doing absolutely nothing with it. I thought focusing on one platform was supposed to give us more games, but the drought is worse than it has ever been.

switch players will be at a distinct disadvantage as other console players will be playing through an Ethernet connection which is much faster than wifi.

@patbacknitro18 Look at what Epic pays their workers vs upper management and then come back and tell us how they aren't greedy.

@patbacknitro18 That's not even remotely true. Epic violated the terms of their agreement with Apple by allowing players to purchase in-game currency directly from them and not through Apple app store.

@MrBlacky Games that require practice and skill are core. Games that anyone can pick up and easily beat are casual.

@BlueOcean Mario Odyssey was stupid easy to the point that the game became boring. One of the many reasons I went from being a Nintendo only gamer after 30 years was that Nintendo just doesn't know how to make challenging games anymore.

@sanderev Last of Us 2 is absolutely not trash. Long and bloated, yes. Trash, no.

Also Ghost of Tushima launches this week so the PS4 winning streak is still running hot.

@BlackenedHalo it's actually a 5. You have to remember Nitendolife gives an automatic +2 for being on Switch.

What quality control?

Took 10 minutes to record the six lines of dialogue.

@NEStalgia I don't care if the Switch is "technically impressive" for a handheld. I only care that it isn't powerful enough to run the games it is attempting to run well. This is exactly what happened with the Vita. It was not powerful enough to provide console gaming on the go and ended up being the loli / shovelware indy console before limping to an early grave. Nintendo is notorious for their gimped consoles which are generations behind and I really don't care to defend this practice with the excuse "but it's portable."

But I could forgive the lack of raw horsepower if Nintendo was designing great games. Unfortunately, Nintendo games have become highly derivative of their past and all of them play like baby's first game with zero challenge. I just played through Super Mario Odyssey and felt the game was way too easy for it's own good. Nintendo has gone downhill in game design over the last 20 years. How you go from Ocarina of Time to a shell of an unfinished game like Breath of the Wild is a mystery to me.

@SpaceKaren it's like looking into a mirror. I was a Nintendo fan until the WiiU and Nintendo's lack of respect for their fans turned me off. Bought a PS4 instead of a Switch and have been catching up on a ton of awesome games. Got a Switch lite during the pandemic but honestly don't see why everyone is so enamored with it. It's a showcase of all Nintendo's design arrogance and antipathy of its userbase. Underpowered, cutting edge design for twenty years ago, and a selection of first party software that had me wondering what happened to Nintendo hard.

It's okay but certainly not deserving of all the praise it gets.

@Razer The thing that happened was Nintendo insists on gimping their consoles with mini disc formats are cartridges or 10 year old technology and Capcom isn't interested in creating more dev teams to develop for two generations ago when they are focused on the next gen.

Third party developers haven't focused on Nintendo since the SNES. Not sure why Nintendo fans haven't figured this out yet.

@Zeldafan79 Aside from the Disney Collection, the Switch couldn't handle any of the other games. They would play at 5 frames per second and reduce the Seitch to a bubbling lump of molten plastic.

What do you expect? Nintendo phones in their underpowered hardware so studios phone in their lackluster ports.

Should also point out that if you have a Switch Lite, NIntendo has given you nothing.

Sony give away the Nathan Drake Collection and Journey during the coronavirus, NIntendo gives Jump Rope Challenge. When will people realize NIntendo is the least consumer friendly of the gaming companies.

Just a reminder that Terms of Service (EULA) can say whatever they want, but do not take precedence over law. They might not like people selling things for actual money, but it doesn't break any law.

@WesEds Just because Nintendo has a EULA doesn't mean the customer is bound by it. There was the infamous sell your soul EULA which I'm pretty sure was non-binding.

@Zidentia No they don't. The Switch can't even run first party games without slowdown and the need to drop to lower resolutions. Believe it or not, you can have cutting edge tech and great gameplay. If Nintendo worked with Microsoft, you could have Nintendo games AND all the great third party games too. It's time for Nintendo to focus on their strengths and stop wasting energy on waggle controls and cardboard toys

Microsoft can make a console, but has no games. Nintendo can make games, but is terrible at making consoles. Sounds like a match made in heaven.