Update: The Spanish podcast 'A Coffee With Nintendo' which ran the recording has issued its own statement on the confusion:
Update: [Mon 6th Jul, 2020 17:45 BST] GameXplain has done some digging and apparently the original interview was mistranslated. Voice actors Navarro and Nerea Alfonso were actually joking about the level of secrecy surrounding the game, and weren't even permitted to confirm or deny if they're coming back for Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2.
Original Story [Mon 6th Jul, 2020 11:15 BST]: Aside from a few job listings posted towards the end of last year, we've hardly heard a single thing about the upcoming sequel to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild since it was first revealed over a year ago.
Now, though, it appears that an update on the game's development may have accidentally surfaced online thanks to an interview with Marc Navarro and Nerea Alfonso, the voice actors behind Revali and Zelda's Spanish dubs.
As reported by Gamereactor, the pair have noted that their work on the new game is already done in a conversation with Spanish podcast 'A Coffee With Nintendo'. Interestingly, the two went on to say that they were unsure whether or not they should have disclosed that information.
If this really is the case, that suggests that work on the game may be much closer to completion that we may have originally thought. We would, of course, be able to assume that the game's plot and dialogue have been fully written and scripted, that localisation has also been completed - in European territories, at the very least - and that localised dubbing has already been laid down. It would also confirm that Revali is set to return in the game, which is nice.
As soon as Nintendo so much as breathes the words 'Breath of the Wild 2' in any official capacity going forward, we'll make sure to update you as soon as possible. Here's hoping we won't have too much longer to wait before that day comes.
[source ivoox.com, via gamereactor.es, gonintendo.com]
Shadow dropping tonight!
I'm ringing work now, I can feel Covid symptoms coming on.
Imma get both if they pair them up physically.
It means the script is 100% complete.
It means the structure of the game is maybe 85% done (they can change parts that don't depend on the script)
And as they didn't need the voices to build the game BUT they needed to build the game to see if it works before recording the voices ... they are indeed very advanced in the game.
Last variables that are hard to mesure are :
Anyway. They are more to the end that to the beginning of building the game. And that's huge news.
That inadvertently confirms, or at least strongly suggests that Revali is returning in some capacity for Breath of the Wild's sequel.
Don’t care about Zelda. Where is my new Donkey Kong game?
After game is done, they still need up to 1 year to play test it and fix bugs.
How is this surprising? Breath of the Wild only had a few sentences dubbed.
That should be the big release for this Christmas. Although Zeldas always been about gameplay and level design more then story so who really knows.
It'll be March. Mario this holiday, Zelda next year.
Nintendo Switch sales will continue to reign.
@RupeeClock the article literally mentioned that
@gcunit please don't make jokes about catching Covid when people (myself included) have ended up in intensive care due to it.
@Coach_A Some users just want to be the first to comment, they never read what they're commenting on 😅.
@BlueOcean Don't forget all the:
Haaaaad! Uh! Tsoooh! Had, Haaaaad! Tsud! Hajaaaaah!
@Friendly True 😂.
I work in dubbing for films and we usually get what they call 'shooting scripts' when production is really early on, so that we can dub into different languages in time for a simultaneous worldwide release.
Game development may work differently but I think there's still a long way to go. Maybe launch next year.
It's entirely possible that the actor is returning for a different role. Revali wasn't the only Rito.
Lots of other developers finish recording lines a long time before the Japanese version is even completed.
All this means is that it's progressing smoothly, which is more than enough for me. I'm sure it will be great
@smashboy2000 surely you wouldn't do foreign language dubbing until you were further along with testing? I bet/hope they have completed the first few rounds of testing and in a private/in house or outsourced beta type test phase, i'd imagine you'd want to have done some testing of localisation before this, which is implied if the actors have been told they are finished.
@Kimyonaakuma really? I would have thought you'd want to complete the game (as much as possible) before you start localisations?
@Ventilator If the game is reusing massive amounts of stuff from the first game, much like development, shouldn't the time requirements for QA also be massively cut down? I'm thinking just in time for Christmas? 😁😁😁
Obviously excited for this but more excited to see MP4!
I'm betting it comes out in February next year. The first Zelda game was released on the 21st February 1986, so that would be the 35th anniversary. the 21st is a Sunday, so maybe Friday 19th?
@MarioBrickLayer Yeah I've read a lot of interviews where voice actors have finished recording months/sometimes a year before.
I think it's more of a risk in smaller studios because they are more likely to make major changes, but Zelda games are planned out years in advance. I wouldn't be surprised if they had an outline for the story when the first game came out. But I could be wrong - the game could come out tomorrow because Nintendo tells us nothing.
I've decided I won't be calling in sick with Covid symptoms to play BotW2. I'll just say I think it's cancer instead out of sensitivity for others.
Why didn’t the sick guy get the joke? It flu over their head.
Why don't chefs find coronavirus jokes funny? They're in bad taste.
I really shouldn't, I know. There's just so many coronavirus jokes out there though. It's a pundemic.
That was always going to be easy. I'll take a guess it took him 1 session to record all the dialog lol.
Unless it's nothing like botw 1 (which I doubt)
@Kimyonaakuma That's interesting, I'd love to see Nintendo do a video on how they develop and test their games. I always thought you'd want to get to a certain point in testing, what if what you've developed is poorly received by your first customer acceptance type testers and you need to make major changes? But you're right, the risk for a company like Nintendo for re-dubbing in a dozen languages isn't a big deal.
Imagine being the voice actor for link 😂
Siet siaaaaaaa (swinging his sword) tiaaaaaaa (hurting his toe)
Link being mentally well haha.
Zelda BotW 2 will be out at the end of the year to combat Sony's PS5. It's the only thing Nintendo has that can push more sales for Switch during the shopping season.
Nintendo did the same thing 3 years ago with BotW vs Horizon Zero Dawn. Sony's more realistic graphics vs Nintendo's gameplay - BotW won the game of the year and Horizon disappeared (until recently it was resurrected for the PC).
@The-Chosen-one plus all the grunting for climbing!!
@The-Chosen-one @MarioBrickLayer They'll probably recycle all of Link's noises.
@NoTinderLife Hypothetical...Odyssey 2 and BOTW2 are both near to complete, which one do you put up against the new XBOX and Playstation?
Wikipedia sales list says they have sold around the same
Lol all it means is the voices have been recorded
@Robzilla Surely. But 2020 or 2021, that's the question
@MarioBrickLayer Breath of The Wild more directly competes (in terms of genre) with a lot of the next gen offerings. Also launched around the same time as the first Horizon game lat time. That would be my bet for putting up against next gen
I would suspect alot of content was "cut" from Breath of the Wild as it had a total rebuild taking out Gamepad elements. To ensure the game worked the dungeons were kept to a minimum and the shrines used to pad out that experience. I think the original concepts trump card, was the world above having an equally vast world below (with the shrines as entrances) with the gamepad giving further info on what is below Link as well as around him.
The game should be about ready as it's 3 years on top of an even longer engine and world development which began waay back in Wii U's cycle (2012-2017).
@MarioBrickLayer BotW is GotY material, it's epic - Odyssey is not even in the same league. People got tricked into buying it because of the hype-up review.
Nobody is going to buy XBOX, the zero-loading system of PS5 already made it obsolete. MS thought that if they made XBOX's processor a little bit faster then they will win over PS5, but they didn't anticipated Sony's secretly developing a chip that can load data directly from SSD to graphics memory and bypassing the CPU.
Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart is the 'showoff' game that Sony will use as a launch title to demonstrate the insane loading system of PS5. The game constantly shift between worlds, not even the fastest PC can run a game like this.
Doesn't mean the game is coming out this year which it's not
While I would like to be wrong why would Nintendo not hype up this game at the start of the year if it was that far along. Still can't see this happening this year unless the scope of the game is much smaller then the first.
From a completely dumb perspective in terms of development of games I'd assume that the bones and meat of the game are done as I believe Nintendo will use assets from the first game.
So for that reason the 2nd game development must be advanced and perhaps might be a surprise release for Xmas period?
@NoTinderLife I will be buying an Xbox and to me Ratchet and Clank just looked like any other game, gameplay wise just with nice effects and graphics. The Xbox will actually let me game like I was a 2005 PC owner again. I can switch games with little loading, so I can be dipping into Doom eternal whilst waiting in a queue for a different multiplayer game (perhaps Halo infinite). I like alot of the older games so having my library transfer across gens is a solid positive. It's why my Wii U still gets attention (more than Switch). So there is a market still for Xbox. PS does what PS does, blow a lot of hot air and not really be much better than the competition, they've been doing it since 94 lol.
@FargusPelagius You should just buy a PC. LOL. Ratchet & Clank is just an example. Have you seen Unreal engine 5 demo? They only show it running on PS5 because of the zero-loading system.
@NoTinderLife still have the one from 2005. Refreshing a console every 5 or so years is cheaper, more money to buy plenty of games. Happy gaming
Looking good for holiday 2020
Hopeful for 2020 Xmas release.
Would take a spring 2021 release.
Expecting a spring 2022 having been pushed back from Xmas ‘21.
@gcunit ha ha
@NoTinderLife Developers outside Sony agree that the advantage of PS5 is smoke and mirrors. The SSD of Series X is also extremely fast and the extra speed of PS5 while real, it is overblown. Ratchet & Clank demo didn't demonstrate anything, it's the same world with some hiccups in the teleport. It's naïve to think that Series X will be left in the dust because of PS5 having a faster SSD when Series X has better CPU and GPU and a very smart architecture including features like Velocity Architecture.
@Jacob1092 Yes. They most likely use same game engine, but modified it alot.
Nintendo still play tests games more than most others to release working games on day 1, not 3 months later.
@NoTinderLife "You should just buy a PC. LOL. Have you seen Unreal engine 5 demo? They only show it running on PS5 because of the zero-loading system".
Do PCs run the backwards compatible games and all Xbox One games? No. Only the new Play Anywhere games are available on Windows (on Microsoft Store and a few on Steam). Besides, buying a computer with Series X capabilities costs a fortune.
The Unreal Engine 5 demo running on PS5 wasn't because of the slower Series X SSD but because of Epic and Sony collaboration over the years.
"The Unreal Engine 5 demo on PlayStation 5 was the culmination of years of discussions between Sony and Epic on future graphics and storage architectures.
The Nanite and Lumen tech powering it will be fully supported on both PS5 and Xbox Series X and will be awesome on both".
So this is a bit greedy, but if BOTW2 is out next year, and Nintendo say they are only half way through the switch life cycle, do we see BOTW3 on Switch?
Could BOTW3 be to the Switch/Switch2(?) what BOTW was to the WiiU/Switch?
I hope its not rushed:(
If true, this lines up with what I've been thinking. Either holiday this year, or early next year.
@MarioBrickLayer Assuming there is a BOTW3. I really hope not. The thing that made Zelda games great is that they were all a bit different. If they did three similar games in a row, that would be bit boring.
Dubbing isn't the same a Game Development completion. Alot are having rosy views here. Not til the Software Programmer says the coding is done then we can see a announcement of release to be news. So hold your pants up til that announcement comes out to get ready for PreOrder.
If its the same as the first then there wouldn't be much to begin with.
@FlashmanHarry it's not coming out this year
@NoTinderLife it's not coming out this year
Still playing BOTW two years later. Literally could not care less about any next gen console or anything else. BOTW was a masterpiece and all the sequel needs to do is be even more polished and get rid of sodding rain making climbing impossible
I don't think that Breath of the Wild 2 will be released this year but who knows, all we can do
on a website about Nintendo is to speculate. Nintendo doesn't say anything although they announced Metroid Prime 4 before ditching all code and starting from scratch which is similar to what happened to Metroid Prime 1. I'm quite excited about Metroid Prime 4 but we'd better wait patiently. I expect BotW 2 for next year.
Come on Nintendo, stop playing with us. We need a Direct already!
@BlueOcean "The SSD of Series X is also extremely fast and the extra speed of PS5 while real, it is overblown."
Do you know that PS5's SSD speed is over twice the speed of XBOX? And it's only possible not because of the drive - but Sony's proprietary chip that controls the I/O operations, it loads data directly into graphics memory.
Games that are developed for PS5 cannot be ported to XBOX or even PC, until Intel or AMD made a new PCI controller that can do that - but seems unlikely as it needs deep integration with graphics card. To me, this makes PS5 a real console - having feature that is unique to the system. That's the reason people bought a console years ago, unlike recent consoles that are reusing PC tech or mobile tech like Switch.
@NoTinderLife I know but only when next-gen games are released we'll see how the extra speed of PS5 SSD is managed in-game and what the real possibilities are considering that the rest of specifications are lower than Series X: CPU, GPU and even memory bandwidth. The real challenge is how the heck next-gen 3D games are going to run on Switch.
@Spoony_Tech "why would Nintendo not hype up this game at the start of the year"
You mean like how they hyped up Paper Mario: Origami King for over a year? Oh wait... it was 2 months and 3 days, 1st we ever heard of it until release.
They announced AND SHOWED US cough cough MP4 cough cough Zelda BotW 2 at E3 2019, that's over a year ago now. If it were far enough along to SHOW us video last year, it could easily be ready by this holiday. They are using the same engine, it may have even started as DLC, now sold as a new game. See Uncharted 4:Lost Legacy and possibly Spiderman: Miles Morales, jury is still out on that game. Otherwise it's a straight up 2, as it's named, which can still come out much sooner since all the Switch game engine graphic work is done.
Keep in mind also that w/ Zelda BotW, while it took years and years to release, that last year was while they waited for Switch to release, and they had to take out all of the Gamepad stuff which would have made - at least to me and anybody else who liked the maps on the Gamepad in the other Zelda Wii U games - the Wii U version better than the Switch version. So all they have to do is make the game for Switch now, should be easy peasy w/ what they have to work with.
It may not be this holiday, but it could be, they've had plenty of time for a sequel on the same hardware. W/ Nintneod I think it also depends on what else is ready. If they have something else big for this holiday, or even Mario ports, then it can wait until spring.
@Friendly I agree, hopefully alongside a switch pro in spring
@rjejr Nintendo's not really hyping up Origami King, we've gotten 2 trailers and that's it so far (Color Splash got more promo). Nintendo's promotion at the moment is almost solely Animal Crossing and Xenoblade. Makes we wonder if there's a Direct on July 9th which has Paper Mario as a spotlight like Bravely Default II was back in the March Direct Mini.
It would be good to know how important anniversaries are to Nintendo and their planning. If they are very important we could see Odyssey 2 this year and BOTW2 would be next year.
Nintendo needs to get with the program and have full voice acting, which is the industry standard at this point.
@Octane Agreed. If the Switch does get another Zelda, I would love to see an original 2D Zelda game. I know we already got Link's Awakening to fill the 2D void. But I'm talking about an entirely new entry into the series. That would be a fun way to wrap up the Zelda's Switch era.
And to the topic at hand, I would be delighted to get BOTW2 this year or at least early next year
@NoTinderLife bro pc ssd are 5000mb/s , PS5 is 5500mb/s. SAMSUNG will release 980pro August with 6000mb/s, PS5 will be beaten before it's even released.....
@Branalvere Yeah, it's starting to seem like a game I'll never tire of. It is a game I just always enjoying starting up and messing around in. Truly a masterpiece
@NoTinderLife How's that PS5 Kool-aid, must be really tasty.
@Grumblevolcano "Nintendo's not really hyping up Origami King"
I meant to write that sarcastically, explaining it IS possible for Nintendo to release Zelda BotW2 this holiday since they are releasing PM:OK after only announcing it 2 months and 3 days before release, no hype whatsoever. Zelda would get more hype than Paper Mario but Nintendo already announced it last June during E3, 2019, so they hype has already beee building for over a year.
"Xenoblade". Kinda already forgot about that one, since it's release I haven't seen any hype at all. Defintely all in on ACNH and the Pokemon dual $30 season passes. Why have 1 $30 season pass when you can have 2, 1 each for S&S? Not to mention the $30 SSBU season pass 2 which really just started w/ Min-Min. So Nintneod doesn't need new games, just season passes.
I’ve always been really hopeful that this was further along in production than many expected. Because it shares a lot in common with the first and there were countless rumours about areas/developments that they didn’t include in the first game but that were fully realised that maybe they didn’t have a huge task ahead to complete tBOTW2. So I’m going to keep on clinging to a possible Christmas release. 🤞🏻🤞🏻
Took 10 minutes to record the six lines of dialogue.
Just because the voice acting is almost done it doesn't mean the game will come out soon. They won't release it until it's ready and makes sense from a financial perspective. I personally expect Holiday 2021.
Well this is a pleasant surprise now if we can just get a new trailer.
I wonder if this is the Breath of the Wild bridge game I've heard so much about
Don't want to sound pessimistic, but didn't Botw only have like an hour of voice acting? That couldn't have taken that long to record.
@antonio2244 I’ve honestly waited for a donkey Kong game forever. I wish they went back to 3D. There were so many ideas they could do.
@ZeldaFanboy78 maybe there is more dialogue? Which seems likely because the story is much darker.
@Agriculture no thanks! The voice acting in BOTW was annoying
The game WILL get released this year, mark my words!
@rjejr I dont put Paper Mario and Zelda in the same category. They will normally hype a big time release for a lot longer then a couple/few months.
What happened to the Mario ports? They were rumours but backed by serious people. Super Mario 64, Sunshine, Galaxy 1 & 2...
If this game comes out in 2020, I will be totally shocked. I could see spring 2021, but we'd start seeing trailers pretty soon for launch window methinks.. I'm sure the game is pretty far in development, but voiceover is done really early on. I don't think this indicates any kind of advanced progress.
@tricksterdoom Zelda's voice (English) is so overacted and at the same time constant that it sounds ridiculous.
When was the last time anything was normal w/ Nintendo, much less anywhere else on the planet these days?
I know Zelda is much bigger than PM, which is why they showed it off last year at E3 but they didn't show PM off at E3 last year. And you know what Nintendo normally says about E3 - if it isn't coming out soon, we wont' show it. ispo facto Zelda BotW 2 must have been planned to be out this year.
"IGN: We spoke to Miyamoto and he told us, Nintendo has some really great Zelda footage and chose not to show it at E3. Can you talk about the thinking behind that decision?
Reggie Fils-Aime: It goes back to the statement i made earlier about how we view E3. We just fundamentally don't believe in showing content at E3 that is going to be a long term proposition. We like to show content that typically will launch in the upcoming Holiday and maybe extending into the first half of the following year."
I HATED BOTW it was just bad, if you needed a game to summarize everything wrong with Ubisoft today it was BOTW. Literally everything they publish the game. The world was bland and lifeless, the graphics were garbage, the Dark Souls combat atrocious, and the copy and pasted dungeons relying on the same exact physics puzzles on top of the cringe voice acting proving voice acting should be illegal for Zelda games. Nope no 10/10 for sure. Overrated and mediocre is the best way to summarize BOTW.
"As soon as Nintendo so much as breathes the words 'Breath of the Wild 2'..."
I see what you did there.
This is motivating me to push the original Breath of the Wild up my Switch backlog stack. I'm probably one of the ten people who, Zelda fan though I am, hasn't played it yet lol.
@Nicholas64 well thats just your opinion man but majority of the gaming community loves botw even if it has a few flaws.
i wonder who they pick to voice ganondorf thats the biggest question.
@tzahn nintendo is know to pull it off to get games down before the year ends cant rule out late 2020 release.
@Nicholas64 It's the worst 3D Zelda game in my opinion for what you mentioned and also the frequent rain turning climbing into a nightmare, pausing all the time for eating while climbing and changing armour and equipment continuously while using a cumbersome inventory management system. The whole game is designed around the concept of upgrading armour and getting better weapons to reach the centre of the map and beat Ganon. Dungeons are a joke, there's almost no music, characters have no stories, the main story is short and uninteresting. It's basically a Zelda sandbox with a few bits of story here and there, disappointing boss battles, disappointing side quests and music and disappointing dungeons.
I just hope it's released before the next global lockdown
@Justaguest @Justaguest there were only 1.5years between OoT and Majora's Mask. There has been more than 3 years between BotW and BotW2. When the engine and foundations for a game are there, it is much easier to produce a sequel so I have every faith this will he superb when it releases.
“ It would also confirm that Revali is set to return in the game, which is nice.”
Not exactly. IIRC the NPC that helps Link board the Divine Beast is voiced by the same actor as the corresponding champion (with the exception of Prince Sidon, obviously).
Hey guys, just so you know this article is almost completely just clickbait. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTGwA-09eM0 This video explains it.
knowing the fact other zelda rumors have not been true taking with a grain a salt
Paper mario maybe a first party game for Nintendo, however it's not their heavy hitters! E.g Zelda, metroid and mario. So they will like to polish this one before showing the general public what the game is like at some point.
"It's the worst 3D Zelda game"- I I completely agree.
"Dungeons are a joke, there's almost no music, characters have no stories, the main story is short and uninteresting"
You hit the nail on the head, these are the exact same gripes I have for BoTW. In the end it's a great game; but as the cliche goes, it just isn't a great Zelda game.
Traditionaly Zelda Games are released in november, since it’s been in development for 3 years without the need to build a new game engine I wouldn’t be surprise to see it coming out this november , plus I don’t think anything big has been announced for the holidays.
@Classic603 I'm happy that I'm not the only one that thinks so.
Zelda games will never be for everybody, same with other games. What you like maybe what i despise.
Hey, we all misquote sometimes lol so thank you for clarifying.
If its anything like the first then it'd only take an hour or so to write the script and do the voice over. Its a huge game but the story was largely non existent
ZBOTW is one of my favorite games. Cant wait for #2
@carlos82 Yeah and the mechanism of telling a large chunk of it (the photo Easter egg hunt) is not that complicated to place in the game design.
Make an umbrella quest and Just drop it in world and call it a day.
Revali's Gale is still not ready
Well there's been so little Real News lately (aside from the unfortunate revelations from the Smash pro scene) that it's understandable everyone would freak out over the slightest possibility of something. C'est la vie.
Don't believe any leaks related to this game.
Absolutely nobody, including many NOA/NOE staff members, knew that this game would show up at the end of last year's E3 Direct until the day the Direct was set to air.
Nothing meaningful about this game isn't going to accurately leak barring a huge data security breach at Nintendo.
Or backpedaling after saying something they shouldn’t?
@contractcooker @Foxorroxors Do more research, it's not the speed of the SSD - Sony even allows you to install your own SSD into the PS5.
The zero-loading has to do with the chip that loads data from SSD into graphics card memory, even bypassing the CPU. The fast loading is not just about having zero wait time when you start a game. It dynamically load data into the graphics card, that means devs can create games that couldn't be done before due to memory constraint.
Yeah right. I dont believe the " mistranslation" excuse. I thing they said the truth
@carlos82 what? Non existent? Theres a lot of dialogue and story. Stop the *****
@BlueOcean damn so much *****. No story? False. No music. Galse. I got the original ost and is 5 cds with 140+ songs. Kid shut up
@NoTinderLife You’re 100% right. This can only lead to more complicated areas, due to more being able to be loaded in a shorter amount of time. No more ‘what’s behind you doesn’t exist’ tricks! You can’t just stick an SSD in a PS4 and expect the same level of speed, it’s slightly faster but it’s not the level that PS5 will bring.
@antdickens, why do you allow copy-paste stories from GoNintendo and other sources instead of independently verifying stories that require translation skills before posting them? It is clear @ryancraddock did little more than rush to get the news posted instead of running it through the proper channels to see if the news was legitimate. Every time Nintendo Life regurgitates completely unverified news and rumors, you lose more and more credibility. Please do better than your counterparts in the Nintendo news industry by getting the right news, not the quickest news.
@mother_brain_85 compared to what? There is very little in the game overall and most of that is here look at a postcard of a more interesting story from 100 years ago. BOTW has a lot of strengths but story isn't one of them
@mother_brain_85 Someone needs to calm down.
So more 'Hajaaah' and 'Hud' need recording?
@smashboy2000 "they needed to build the game to see if it works before recording the voices" ...why this though? You definitely DON'T need a build of the code in order to record the lines. Usually animations are made to match the voice lines after they've been recorded, and even if they did the other way around (which would be weird) then you'd only need the cutscenes with the animations running, I don't see how they'd need for a full game build for that.
I feel like BOTW is more of a spin-off of the traditional Zelda format, like the CD-I games. It had a lot of fun parts that I really enjoyed but on the whole it rarely felt like a Zelda game. I think the game engine could be used to make the one of the best games in the series if they did a more classic style game.
Fake news... but we eat it up anyway. Especially in the face of lacking a Direct for several centuries now.
I’m gonna say Christmas 2021 x every main Zelda gets delayed a bit so I guess Summer to Xmas 2022 xxx
@NPC411 I get what you're saying, but translating other languages is often fraught with such issues; according to GameXplain, the nuance of the light-hearted banter (in Spanish) was confused for legitimate info - only Spanish users picked up on it.
In an ideal world, we'd verify every translation (indeed, we're getting much of the Japanese stuff double checked) but in this case, we (and several other sites) got caught out. It happens.
Heh heh, mistranslations.
@mother_brain_85 It doesn’t sound like the voice actors said it was a joke. GameXplain did. Read the actual article before you post about things that didn’t happen.
@Damo It doesn't seem as a mistranslation, because the original article in spanish also stated that the voice work was completed. It seems more of some missing context when hearing the interview from the original article writer than a translation issue.
If anyone was looking for it: Didn't find the original audio, but found this transcription:
"Con Zelda había poca información y pasaba algo que, como un pequeño comentario o queja, con la segunda parte... que no sé si puedo decir si hemos doblado o no", a lo que rápidamente responde Nerea que "No, no se sabe, no se sabe. Mira, tanto si lo hemos doblado como si no lo hemos doblado, no se puede decir nada".
Navarro rápidamente rectifica: "Vale, yo no recuerdo haberla doblado o no, esta segunda parte. ¿Vale? No voy a mentir (risas)".
Which would translate to, by me:
"With Zelda there was little information and this thing happened when like, a small comment or complaint, with the second part... which I cannot say whether we have dubbed or not", to which Nerea quickly responds with "No, it's unkown, it's unknown. Look, even if we have dubbed it of if we haven't dubbed it, nothing can be said about it."
Navarro quickly corrects: "Okay, I don't remember dubbing it or not, this second part. Okay? I'm not going to lie (laughs)."
Shadow drop denied 😣
@inenai good translation! I couldn't hear the interview, but from the transcript they all but confirmed they were done with the voice overs.
In that case.....pre-order cancelled!!
@inenai Right, that conversation basically says nothing. They are not confirming anything and any person that speaks Spanish (like me, part of my family is from Spain) can deduce that they are not allowed to confirm anything so they don't feel free to talk. Because of that ambiguity and nervousness, I suspect that they have finished their work but I would never confirm it because they are not confirming anything either. It wouldn't be good journalism.
@BlueOcean I'm a native spanish speaker, and from the transcript alone it seems like they are done with the voice work but aren't allowed to either confirm nor deny doing it, or at least that's what I understood.
@71nk0 Right! That's exactly what I understood but I didn't read the conversation until it was posted on here by Inenai.
The epitome of fake news and incredibly bad journalism.
I'm glad their work hasn't wrapped up so soon.
This time, I expect the story and narrative to be a huge improvement, and that means a lot of effort must be done to the cutscenes and the acting as well.
So it was wrong wasn't expecting nintendo to release it intill 2021 at earliest anyway. I hope nintendo have something planned though i know they have had someone ill with the virus. But please mario remakes be true or if not give us something for xmas even if it is';t the biggest of hitters, don't roll over and let the other guys take this year and blame it on the virus.
"No, Zelda: Breath Of The Wild 2's Voice Work Isn't Complete"
Yes, the game is finished (well, almost I think).
@BlueOcean I see we've reached that point in the Zelda cycle. https://www.gamerevolution.com/features/331702-did-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-manage-to-break-the-zelda-cycle
Clearly, the purpose of BOTW was to personally troll fans like you, @Nicholas64. The very subtitle is a taunt for those with discriminating tastes, being an unsubtle reference to the fetid stinking breath of a scrawny androgynous blonde boy lying on his arse for 100 years while the kingdom burned. (A metaphor for the decline of the series!!!!1!)
To anyone else reading: there is enough to criticize in BOTW, but mindless negativity and unbalanced analyses around this series are more of a cliché than the Master Sword.
@Classic603 Was the original 1986 release a great Zelda game?
I feel like BOTW is more of a spin-off of the traditional Zelda format, like the CD-I games.
This is the most amusing thread in quite some time.
@BlueOcean Thanks, hun.
@COVIDberry Not really, and now there are 2 games that feel that way out of Zelda's vast library. Woohoo!
now there are 2 games that feel that way out of Zelda's vast library. Woohoo!
@Classic603 ... the original and BOTW, then? You mean you liked The Adventure of Link? Because so many are quick to declare that title unappetizing...
For the record, though it was scraping and harshly difficult, I rather liked Zelda 2 on the whole.
Yeah I listened to the whole thing and I'm sure they f-ed up.
@smashboy2000 Ughh.. looks like 2021 now! :S
No I didn't enjoy Zelda II. What I was saying is BoTW, though similar to the OG Zelda, doesn't carry that amazing feeling that a vast majority of Zelda titles do.
@Classic603 not every zelda game needs to be the same im glad nintendo is taken zelda in a new direction being open world and not denying botw had its flaws but it was still a great game.
@RiasGremory Yeah but every person has the right to like or dislike it. It's very simple, really.
Also, they're never the same. Majora's Mask is different to Ocarina of Time in everything but assets and both are awesome. Breath of the Wild is shallow. Some people like it because of the freedom and sandbox possibilities, others don't because it's not an epic The Legend of Zelda game. Or one hundred other reasons. It doesn't really matter.
I agree, every game being the same would be boring. They should be similar, though, so it at least feels like it's in the same series instead of a sandbox exploration game with a teeny bit of zelda painted in. I miss dungeons and special items and themes and epic music and the green tunic
People are desperate for ANY Nintendo news that every single little kernel like this gets people going crazy.
I've been having a blast even with a "slow" year for Nintendo (which, when you release two of the top selling games of the year in Animal Crossing NH and Xenoblade DE, are you REALLY having a slow year?). Why? Because there are SO MANY good games on the Switch that fly under the radar and the third party releases have been great this year.
I guess I'm just not attached to as many Nintendo first party titles as some people, though I'm very excited for Zelda BOTW 2 and anything Metroid.
@NPC411 This wasn't a 'copy-paste story from GoNintendo'. The story originally came from Gamereactor, an outlet considered to be a reliable source. We simply shared that news as we would any other story from any reputable source.
I'm not sure why this particular Gamereactor report is seemingly incorrect, but it seems strange to me that outlets that shared the report such as ourselves, IGN, etc are being attacked over this. If a trustworthy outlet discovers a story, the 'proper' thing to do is source and credit them for their find. That's what we did.
How hard can it be to translate things nowadays?
@BlueOcean you forget nintendo is trying to take zelda into more realism survival type game reason why the weapons have durability this time and less music for the over world.
@inenai It totally depends.
They need the game "build" (not finished !) just to see if the game works. Then you record actors, because they are not cheap.
Then you finish the game (including lips sync).
Then again, method can vary between developpers.
But the process you describe is more for animation movies, where actors are recorded after the storyboard is complete.
@ryancraddock Lost in Translation?
Seems like Gamereactor screwed up here and are using the Trump tactic of blaming others to cover up their own shortcomings.
Or is that what 'A Coffee With Nintendo' are dong to protect the Spanish voice actors who probably shouldn't have spoken with them in the first place?
@Julien Honestly, I'm not sure what's going on anymore. I agree that the initial report seems to have been incorrect, but the podcast's response hasn't actually made the situation any clearer so we'll have to wait and see!
@ryancraddock As far as I'm concerned we're pretty much back to square 1, which is.. well, just having that one trailer to go off of and no valuable information could be taken from this interview regarding the game's actual status at this point in time.
Either way, Nintendo will share more information when they feel ready to. It's been over a year since this trailer was shown though so people are just grasping for anything they can at this point.
@damo and @ryancraddock, I greatly appreciate the replies. As someone who started as a reader of VC-Reviews before the site merger occurred (well over 11 years ago), I have a lot of emotional investment in the health and well-being of your website. I want Nintendo Life to continue to succeed and to be the most trusted Nintendo news site on the web (hence one reason I've repeatedly mentioned the promotion of unlicensed Etsy merchandise), and you have the easiest-to-read and most modern layout of any of your company-specific competitors. I feel as though your policy regarding independent verification of Japanese translations should perhaps apply to other languages, as well. Just because a source has been reliable in the past does not mean they will continue to be reliable, especially when it comes to something as finicky as translation, and we the readers are trusting that you the media are vetting the information you provide us before we read it. Sure, Nintendo news isn't the high stakes world of geopolitical news, but in the age where one random article or obscure mention sends Twitter into a feeding frenzy, you can't be too careful with the news you choose to release. Everyone makes mistakes, and the news is no different; hopefully, there can be protocols put in place to prevent this sort of thing from happening again. Continue to be your best selves, and we will continue to enjoy your hard work. Thanks for all you do!
It's not a translation problem, as the original spanish article also stated that the voice work was probably completed by listenting to the interview.
The voice actors talked about not remembering if they did or not worked on the second game while chuckling and laughing about it.
Even if they did not confirm nor deny anything, context is everything, so people implied from that interview that they had indeed already finished with the voice work.
Dang what a savage statement by A Coffee With Nintendo, I like their style.
What voice work? It's mostly hmmm ahhh haha's they they do and very little actual dialogue
Thanks NPC411 for the NintendoLife history lesson! I think when I originally found this site it was officially NintendoLife, but I was using it for VC reviews basically lol.
Which brings up a seperate issue of how damn good the VC was on Wii.
Anyway, none of this would be an issue if there was any reliable news source for BOTW2. Clearly people are passionate about this game and are clinging to any scrap of news (myself included). I am hoping rumours of Nintendo dropping news later this month after Sony and Microsoft finish their new console spiels. Again this rumour is probably fake news, but I’m buying it because I’m desperate for news and it kinda makes sense from a marketing perspective to have the last say when it comes to reveals when competing against new consoles. COVID could very much work in Nintendo’s favour, especially if Sony and Microsoft have their console production delayed
@Octane Yeah it would. l actually fell asleep couple of times playing the first one irl, and l never was tired. It was just the game and I was embarrassed when my sister found me sleeping in my chair xD
@ryancraddock In short, yes, it can be deduced from their speech that they have finished their work but because they shouldn't have said anything they got nervous. Officially, there aren't any news.
Clickbait news are nothing but BS.
@ryancraddock Look, I'll try to clarify. I am a Spanish speaker and taking context into consideration this is exactly what transpired: Navarro is talking about how he wanted as little context as possible when dubbing a series he liked, so as not to be spoiled, because looking at the original actor's expressions was enough context for him to do a good job. He then continues to try and compare this experience with the one working with Zelda. He begins a sentence about how the experience was with dubbing BOTW's "first part", he says he's about to state a complaint actually (most probably about the little context Nintendo provided for the dubbing of Revali's lines), but interrupts himself saying that "for the second part, instead..." as if to say, Nintendo probably gave them better context for the sequel, this time around. Yet again he interrupts himself when he realizes he's just admitted having worked in the sequel, and the "joking" starts about not remembering anything. He even compares the situation to being in a trial, where you have to say "you don't remember anything" to cover something you did. Then when the joking ends, he continues to talk about the context Nintendo gave them to do their job, specifying "for the first part" (the first game). They (Revali's and Zelda's VAs) both spoke in past perfect. Up to this point, the sequel had never even been mentioned during the interview, so there was no way, at that point, that this had been a 'recurrent joke during the interview'. The joking started at this point.
These are all facts that any Spanish speaker will be able to verify if they listen to the whole thing.
Personally, I believe Revali's voice appears in the second game and dubbing work has been done, it is not specified if fully or partially. And also, Nintendo made their work easier this time around, lol.
So... Hyrule Warriors?
now with Hyrule Warriors:Age of Calamity anounced and releasing in novembre 20th, the game the voice actor of Revali and Zelda was talking about is Hyrule Warriors:Age of Calamity not Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2 as we previously trough.
@inenai now with Hyrule Warriors:Age of Calamity anounced and releasing in novembre 20th, we know that Revali and Zelda actor was actualy taking about this game not Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2 as we previously trought.
@MarioBrickLayer Nintendo has said literally nothing about Odyessey 2, why are you saying that?
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