Surprise! Nintendo Says Its Next Console Is Going To Be Very Much Like Its Other Consoles

I knew it!

Told you all. You gotta start listening to me, I tells you.

Unique integrated hardware-software entertainment is my jam Furukawa-san!

So, more and more stuff on my shelves.

Really a shame they did not show the gamecube controller in the infographic, since that's one of the best in my opinion!

does this statment means that Nintendo will continue the Switch format for futures Nintendo consoles?

The first rule of Nintendo Club, you don't talk about the Wii U.

@Giancarlothomaz Not necessarily. But honestly, if whatever's next goes back to not portable, it will feel very much like a step backwarss.

God I just gotta switch to were is my wallet.

@Giancarlothomaz I hope so why i don't like the idea of playing games on a smartphone because there are not quality standards or rarely with too much adware and the Nintendo Switch is the only real console in the handheld market.

Oddly enough Nintendo like charging others to put their games on their proprietary software, and don’t want to be charged to put their games on someone’s streaming service. Who knew!

I look forward to it only being sold over a 6 month period before being pulled globally from stores.

I will look out for the Amazon pre-order with a release date of 31/12/2099.

It's good to see the N64 controller getting some love in one of those slides about creating fun.

Dear Nintendo,

Pls I want GameBoy Advance 2 plsss

Best regards,
Danjel

@Giancarlothomaz if I remember correctly, Switch supposed to be a platform for whole family of products, so I’d expect them to add more products to the Switch lineup, rather than start something completely new.

@Miyamotosan was that the tablet like accessory for the wii??

Nintendo: "20XX"

Switch Pro conspirologists: "Oh, cool, Arabic and Roman numbers mashed together!"

I just hope they get the branding right. The Switch has been such a huge success that I'd hate to see them squander that momentum Wii U-style.

Is that guy playing Ring Fit Adventure or passing a kidney stone?

As long as they keep the hybrid format I'm good. Would really be a shame of they went back imo.

20XX, confirmation that the next Nintendo Platform will be Megaman. As long as I don't need to plug the cables in the same place as that inflatable Pikachu..

@Miyamotosan or the Virtual Boy. And, judging by these pics, the GsmeCube, the 3DS, Game & Watch or THE ENTIRE GAME BOY LINE.

Interesting the wii u is missing in the line up....looks like Nintendo also want to forget about that!

All I really want is a more powerful and improved version of the Switch, going back to anything less will probably feel like a downgrade.

Gosh, that guy playing Ring Fit is having WAY too much fun.

Nintendo HDS
Nintendo SanDWITCH
Due to 2022.

I think Nintendo really found their perfect niche with hybrid home/portable hardware. I think they should for sure focus future hardware development on innovating in that direction. It simply gives the best of both worlds and I have no desire to go back to picking between one or the other.

Can't wait to see what they will bring next

Hopefully the next one will be Switch 2.

They'd be stupid to do anything else really as the hybrid console is the best way to differentiate themselves from PS and Xbox.

I remember being so happy with my 3DS. While I was able to get a Switch on week one, I thought, I will keep playing the 3DS and play some games on the Switch. Was I wrong! I rarely play the 3DS, and I have put thousands of hours on my Switch.

So, I am not over excited about new hardware. I mean, I will keep playing my Switch, right?

I mean I think some people are getting the wrong impression here. Nintendo is all about innovation, they stated this many times in this article itself, to say Nintendo's next console is going to be similar to the previous ones is not really true. I'm still looking forward to the day when Nintendo releases a functional and technologically impressive VR console.

Illuminating stuff...

I hear that to avoid another Wii to Wii U scenario nintendo have decided to change the successor marketing and will go from the Switch to the U Switch. By putting the U at the front theres no possibility for anyone to not realise its a new console.

While encouraging as a Nintendo fan, I'm afraid such an early next-gen talk won't bode well with the Switch's supposedly "longer" life cycle. So much for that - here's hoping the system will go out with a bang. Hell, we still don't even know about the remaining Smash DLC fighters yet!

Please keep the switch concept 🙏

I never understand these statements that mean nothing, they don't make me think "Yeah!! Let's invest!"

...guess it's a business thing

I agree they should stick to the Switch concept, but instead of a dock you can stream to your tv. And backwards compatible with the current system please

It better be backwards compatible with the switch digital games, I understand going away from the current memory card format, but they should allow the digital purchases to be playable on this new system

I think the biggest win for consumers will be able to carry the library forward like Steam. But knowing Nintendo, probably will not happen. :/

Haha, the Wii U just doesn't exist.

For the record, it's not a Switch Pro.

@HobbesPrime whynotboth.gif

like anyone needed to know its gonna happen before 2099 , srsly nintendo

@Miyamotosan whats a Wii U 🤔

20XX = 2022. 2021 would be 20XY .

Would love to see a dock upgrade as our mid-step to next gen. We don't need much, just something that would make games slightly prettier or run better.

Oh God, it's NX speculation all over again for the next 2 or 3 years. Lol

Nintendo about to ditch the Switch and sell you the cube
it shakes
it rumbles
it runs 4k gamecube games!

I do wonder, if there will ever be a Nintendo console that:

will come as an implant into your brain, and by thinking of a Nintendo IP you will see the game in front of you and you can control it with your mind. Want to play multiplayer, just grab your friend by the hand or play over the internet.

I think people are reading way too much into this. This basically tells us nothing apart from that they have a console planned for this century.

@BenAV I'm the opposite, I would prefer a higher power option for my TV wither better res and fps. Maybe if they offered a handheld and a console that would be good for all

@Dubbicakes The dock doesn't do anything to the Switch. It's basically just a glorified USB-C to HDMI converter.

@sanderev That's why I said upgrade.

Let's hope that is a console with backwards compatibility for N64, GameCube, Wii, DS & 3DS.

@Giancarlothomaz very unlikely

@DonSerrot I agree I just hope they’ll be less stingy on the hardware e.g. the next Switch gets adequate ram and uses current chips.

@Giancarlothomaz that's exactly what it's saying. pretty much all system on a chips are getting insanely powerful and with Nvidia in their back pocket developing dlss technology for the new Switch as well very likely custom tegra style chip for the new Switch built from the ground up.

@AlexSora89 I think Nintendo sees the writing on the wall. After three years, the Switch still has very little third party support and they know this is only going to get worse as the new consoles will create an even bigger divide between the Switch and the next generation consoles. They have two choices - go third party or build a better console. It seems they're going to attempt another console.

X in roman numerals is 10, so 20XX is 2020.

Switch pro Holiday 2020 confirmed.

@Ambassador_Kong Dude, what are you talking about? The Switch has some of the best 3rd party support in the all of Nintendo's history.

Does this "positive cycle" continue to exclude a virtual console?

Okay, let's be clear, the chances of Nintendo making a 4k console in the next 5 to 10 years is slim at best. The Switch can barely handle 720p with some of their first-party games, let alone 1080p. Like, have you been to the Deku Tree in BotW? It dips below 30fps in 720p handheld mode. Even if the new system could do 1080p handheld and 1440p docked with a stable 30fps (not even 60fps) then that would still be a MASSIVE upgrade from the current console. A 4k Nintendo console is a long, long ways away.

@AlexSora89 They're not talking next gen. They're just talking about their long term business strategy being to continue to produce consoles instead of going cloud, mobile, third party, or just becoming a film and theme park company. They're confirming their future plans to keep releasing hardware with exclusives, not talking about next gen hardware or anything.

"Nintendo confirms next-gen console to release sometime in next 80 years"

@NintonicGamer Well that differentiating only started with the Wii, before that all Nintendo consoles were basically leaps in hardware capabilities. NES > SNES > N64 > Gamecube were basically very much traditional consoles like the PS and XB.

It only started with the Wii and then WiiU that Nintendo started launching experimental consoles.

They definitely struck gold with the Switch and I seriously hope Nintendo sees it that way too, that Hybrid consoles is the way of the future.

I don't want to go back to a traditional home console and a separate handheld, like the Wii(U) and (3)DS era.

The Switch really is the perfect console, where I can play on my TV when I am home and take out the console and continue playing the same games on the go!
For me that really was a dream come true. Especially being able to play Pokemon for example in Highres on the TV or full blown Mario/Zelda console games on the go in handheld mode. Or awesome 3rd party games like The Witcher 3 and Skyrim on the go. Whoever thought that would be possible.

The Switch is basically in the middle of its life cycle. As Nintendo themselves have mentioned they anticipate a six year refresh cycle. This gives them time to fully flesh out the next hardware. What people are totally missing out on in these "rumors" is that even if they are true the timeframe is really long for testing, mfg samples and software work. It is likely 2022/3 for a new model.

Yeah I’d much prefer a “switch 2” at this point rather than something left field like the wii.

My wish list would be more powerful tech, smaller bezels and a dock for the tv.

@Ambassador_Kong huh?? You realize Switch 3rd party support has only been getting better and better with each passing year right? Nintendo is definitely not saying they're gonna suddenly release a new system. Switch has severalyears left and 3rd parry support should continue to improve even more during that time. All this statement by Nintendo says is basically they don't plan on going the streaming route any time soon and will continue to create hardware that improves gameplay, which they uniquely do in this industry.

They should just go full circle and start back at the begining. Start manufacturing NES and original green screen wonder GAMEBOY, then make new games! Meet the new boss, same as the old boss...but it's NEW!

I hope the next console will be the Switch 2 with BC with the Switch's games. Having a more powerful Switch Pro right now would be a smart move that would allow Nintendo and developers to port the latest games like Cyberpunk 2077 or AC: Valhalla and others to the Switch. But I don't see Nintendo making that move.

If their next system isn't a more powerful Switch, essentially a Switch 2, then Nintendo would be fools. They've found a gold mine with the hybrid nature of the Switch, and one that the other guys don't even seem to be interested in. They carved a corner in the market, and became kings of it.

@Jhomesjones They should just add a Game Boy channel to the Switch, and then if they had any ideas for new games for their old systems they could release them to the Game Boy channel, or NES channel, SNES channel, etc.

@HobbesPrime Maximum impact!

@Giancarlothomaz My Goodness I hope. I get that nintendo likes switching things up but the switch is such a good design and I dont see how they would want to leave the success of it. There's still plenty of creative and QOL improvements that could be done on the design, plus I hope the next gen is backwards compatible.

@datamonkey The only Non Performance/Technical improvements for a new model that I would really want would be a motion sensor in the console part of the switch that way VR could become a real possibility.

@Jeronan I kinda said this in another response I had to someone but I dont see how Nintendo could possibly want to break out of the switch formula. They managed to combine both of their markets and attract new people because of the hybrid nature. Really, just performance/technical upgrades would be the way to go, imo

20XX. Interesting. You’d think it would be 202X if their talking about it already.

See analysts. The more everyone else goes towards digital services that are pretty much standardized, the more opportunity there is for Nintendo to create something different and unique. So please, for the love of God, stop wanting Nintendo to copy them. I know it makes sense in your narrow minds, but you are sucking the joy out of the hobby.

@Christofu Yes it would just not make any sense.

Nintendo has basically unified to a single development platform now. Would be stupid to step away from that again.

So I also hope they stick to the Switch hybrid console formula and just keep iterating on it.
Lot of improvements possible still to make the experience even better with future versions of the Switch.

"and will continue to use Nintendo Accounts"

This is actually significant, as Nintendo has changed this aspect of each console generation the last two systems.

Nintendo also states that they will indeed release another Mario title someday.

Nintendo fans: The Switch is a pretty unique console. But we are desperate for a new system now!

It's only been Switch 4th year on being out in the market and there are already people wanting a new system! We don't need a Switch 4K!

That one guy is REEEEEALLY enjoying Ringfit...!

@Ambassador_Kong look at all of the top selling Switch games. Wonder why there are no third party games at the top of the list 🤔

@Dubbicakes What are you expecting the dock to do, exactly? It's just a USB-C port, so it's not like it has the bandwidth to act as an external GPU or something.

I suppose they could make a dock that does integrated "upscaling" of the video to 4K, but that would probably be both prohibitively expensive and not really all that much better looking since it wouldn't be "true" 4K, plus it'd introduce at least a little latency.

So the take away is more hydrib portable as they see that that is what sets them apart from the other consoles of how we are different. It UTTERLY escapes me why so may people on here think Nintendo to jump to 4K upscale is sooooooooooooooo big of a jump when the SoC chip they used in the OG switch was already ancient for tech the day it was installed compared to circa tech for that time. Let us jump forward to now and current uprez 4k chips are now doable at the same price point if they want to stay economical.

@B_Lindz Have you read up on the Xavier SoC chip if they do go with that as a possibility? Not native 4k true but uprez like the Xbox series S about to hit. Or if they do Nvidia DLSS AI tech method?

@Jeronan Hey I mean you're not wrong, I think the Switch form factor should last for a decade unless we get new revolutionary tech that isn't portable just yet. Even then they could develop new games for both consoles much like the 3ds/Wiiu.

Why do people keep thinking a console that upscales is somehow magic pseudo 4k. Every 4k TV already upscales, and does a great job on a 1080p image. All Nintendo needs to do is focus on consistent 1080p performance, and it doesn't matter if the console outputs 1080 and the display upscales, or if the console upscales, it's more or less going to be the same image. 1080p to 2160p is just pixel doubling. Even lousy scalers don't have a hard time with that. It's when going from 720p 900p to 1080p or 2160p etc., non-even multiples, that the quality of the scaler really comes into play. If "Switch pro" (or Series S for that matter) can guarantee solid 1080p performance, it'll look fine on 4k displays.

Don't believe it? Play a current Switch game that outputs 1080p (Splatoon, ACNH) and look at it on your 4k display. Looks good, right? Scaling it in the console isn't going to make it look any better, unless we're talking about added AA, which is separate from scaling.

@BenAV my problem is imagine if games like xenoblade chronicles 2 had the right power what it would look like!

So like will it be powerful enough to get ports from PS5/XSX or is that going out the window

@DanElectrode USB 3.0 is fully capable of running an external GPU powerful enough to lock the Switch at full 1080p 60 gameplay. The Switch is capable of doing it itself with a little overclocking so a booster dock wouldn't need much power at all to achieve the same result causing no latency.

The niches are nice, but I'd like Nintendo to try having a real powerhouse that can compete with other consoles once in a while and hopefully get more third-party support than it usually does.

@muscpt Ehh what? There isn't a 4K capable SoC available today that fits inside the current Switch housing without melting it to rubble.

Even the NVidia Tegra X2 will not offer 4K at a satisfactory performance. Maybe 2K docked sure.
Not to mention that the Tegra X2 is still 400% more expensive than the Tegra X1 today (its why its solely targeted at the Automotive industry)....

So, no it has not become affordable yet to have 4K gaming in a Switch console.

If Nintendo is seriously considering offering 4K within the coming 2 years, it will have to be a special Docking station that offers a performance boost to the current Switch.
This would actually make more sense, with the Switch having an USB-C port already.

I hope the Switch is here to stay for at least a few more years at least.

@muscpt Yes! I have looked into it a little bit. The problem that Nintendo would run into with this is that their console would need a significantly better battery and panel for their screens. If Nintendo tried using a chip like the XSS then it would burn through its battery life in a heartbeat. I just think that Nintendo would run into enough problems balancing battery life, thermals, frame rates, and resolution while keeping it cost effective that they would just make the device capped at 1080p 60fps, 1440p 30 fps max. I do think Nintendo will make a 4k console at some point, but that is WAAAAY down the road from now.

Thanks for responding to my post! It's fun talking about this with someone.

@Dubbicakes I... don't think that's true at all, if they were to release such a thing, I don't think existing games would just automatically leverage it. And even if it were, you're now talking about a new dock that would probably cost more than the Switch itself.

So basically Nintendo confirmed they will keep innovating with their consoles, just like they do with most of its games. Next Switch will have magnetic Joycons but that's not all. It will have sold-separately special glasses that will fusion VR and 3D which will be playable anywhere, anytime

Switch Pro confirmed! Coming in 20XX! Ha! Take that, skeptics!!!!!

@DanElectrode The Switch is already capable of shifting gears to other power models, no problem leveraging it. Also, you can buy a graphics card retail with twice the power of the Switch for half its cost, a booster that is only 50% or less its output would cost very little.

This really doesn't say much of anything. The integrated hardware-software approach applies to Ring Fit and the like. Nintendo is just going to continue to do Nintendo things.

@Ooyah : Beat me to the punch. Except I would have referenced EB Games/GameStop as they so frequently jump the gun on pre-orders.

Still doesn't say much. I would hope for Nintendo's sake they would release their next console "this century" lol

@Dubbicakes The Switch only uses USB 3, not Thunderbolt, meaning anything connected that way can't access the PCIe bus, which is really want you'd need to make some kind of graphics expansion thing feasible.

I suspect Nintendo wouldn't want to do that anyway for a host of other reasons - they just went though the whole Wii U debacle where everybody (mistakenly) thought it was some kind of upgrade for the original Wii, and it created a bunch of confusion around which games it could play and whatnot.

I don't think they have the stomach to create a similar situation with the Switch right now where some games leverage this external dock upgrade thing, some don't, some require it, etc.

Anyway, I suspect they'd rather just wait a year or two and then sell a completely new console anyway.

@DanElectrode That only applies to market graphics cards, not custom chips which Nintendo would use in this case.

@B_Lindz Really? I don't remember RDR 2, Final Fantasy VII remake, Resident Evil 7, 2, 3, Sekiro, Control, any Call of Duty, Borderlands 3, Jedi Fallen Order, Monster Hunter World, Devil May Cry 5, Hitman 2 (or 1 for that matter), Avengers, Cyberpunk, Assassins Creed Valhalla, Nioh 2, Watchdogs, Tony Hawk, Star Wars Squadrons, Kingdom Hearts 3, or dozens of others getting announced.

I do remember the Switch getting the worst versions of Outer Worlds though.

@HammerKirby

Because
a) Nintendo owners only by Nintendo games
b) Better versions of most third party games can be played on different systems and usually cheaper.

What a waste of time this meeting was....

@Ambassador_Kong I know why. You were acting like third party support is make or break for Switch. I was being sarcastic lol

maybe nintendo are researching somthing, brilliant.

I am laughing so much at the picture at the top. He has an entire massive shelf below his TV, yet he still puts a tiny little table next to it for his Switch.

People and their koolaid 4k drinks are hitting it hard.
Did anyone read the rumor specs-here it is for those again:
4k (Docked)---get it now..
1080p (Portable)--- get it now 2nd time.
Yet people can't seem not see outside where the sun don't sun out from-They keep Harping wrong rumors constantly as though Saying it enough would make it so. xbox/psx will 4K upscale as well and but wait once you mentioned Switch they only say Switch upscales but forget xbox/psx aren't True 4K output. Those consoles don't have the power to run True 4K @60fps that is the realm of Gaming Desktop/laptop with SLI/CF setup to push those pixels. So let's again put this to rest those consoles aren't True 4K so let's put dead horse to stay where it lies. And to those that think oh Nintendo shouldn't make a new consoles that is the reason you aren't part of Nintendo. They will not stay quiet just because you ahem (thinking your smarter then Nintendo-NOT) don't know what it means to innovate and improve the console. Whom says they can't have a standard Switch and a Switch 2 more powerful existing together-certainly not you since your inside the box thinking clearly show not OutSide the box thinking would more or less kill any future company innovations. I suspect a Switch 2 was in development when the Switch updated came out and that it will more or less be a different chipset to improve the GPU/CPU hardware to improve game play and graphics to those wanting to put the cash for it. So Nintendo isn't going to limit itself because you think they should. If that is how those people think they should stay with DialUP Internet and FlipPhone no smartphone and say they are fine with that decision and no upgrade. Let's see how far they keep peeping those same words now.

I wonder if that next gaming system will still be an hybrid (aka a "Switch" )

Well this confirms they will be still doing fine as usual, but with innovations, as usual.

Just like the rumours said, Nintendo is working on new hardware. The rumors call it a Switch Pro, but I knew it was much better to call it "Next-Gen Switch". As judging from Nintendo's philosophy, innovation won't be ignored. And as they just said on the briefing, they're exploring cutting-edge technology (once again, just like what Bloomberg said!). Considering they have Nvidia at their side, I feel they're creating a mobile beast. An innovative mobile beast.

But before they make another Wii U timing mistake, they better think of adopting the Xbox Series X/S strategy.
Seriously, they really nailed it this time, the cheapest next-gen console will launch with the same price as the standard Switch! With Game Pass included, and I'm not even talking about this:
https://www.purexbox.com/news/2020/09/xbox_all_access_will_cost_you_usd34_99_p28_99_a_month_with_a_series_x_console
Paired with Xbox Cloud for Smartphones, they really have the Switch cornered.

They need to focus on what can only be done playing games natively on a handheld (such as AR), and that includes these games too demanding to "run" on the current Switch.

I feel many hardware rumours will appear in the next weeks and/or months. I'm feeling like I'm waiting for NX rumors again (good bad times

I love how Nintendo gives information by actually giving NO information lol Never stop being a big dumb lovable elephant Nintendo. Gotta love them

@B_Lindz No worries, it is good to have an enlightening discussion about the pros and cons of tech specs when placed into frame of portable units. It dose seem we have something new on the way sooner rather than later, and the one thing that seems interesting is if they truly did tell devs to start making things 4k ready for their ports. Such dialogue would hint at plans for at least some upscaling; which it would be interesting to see how battery life is handled. Just thinking out loud, maybe the "improved user interface" comment will be us having an "on the go option" to change the setting to, like a laptop, choose between power or graphics for a choice of 1080 or 4k uprez to decide how far/long we want or will be away from a charge station?

@Jeronan I was not talking about the X2 "Parker." I was talking about the recent chip "Xavier" released March 2019. It contains 7 billion transistors and 8 custom ARMv8 cores, a Volta GPU with 512 CUDA cores, an open sourced TPU. It is able to encode and decode 8K Ultra HD (7680×4320). It has been postulated that if Nintendo used this SoC chip it would not give native 4k (and that was not my point) but to have 4k as seen on the PS4 Pro via uprez tech. My thought process was if this chip was placed into the dock so we would have 1080 handheld (I realize handheld would not power this chip) and the dock could power this chip to enjoy 4k uprez on dock mode for a docked-4K uprez option. Perhaps my latter point was lost in my prior post.

@Dpishere and full bc with switch titles

So the real question is are they referring with „next console“ a updated/reversion or a new generation?

I imagine it would just be a next gen version of what the Switch is.

I love how the Wii U is just.... not there

Switch Series N

Well, we are into the switches fourth year, usually new consoles are in development at this point.

@ogo79 seeing as I have no idea who that is, rest assured I probably won’t be watching him.

@FlashmanHarry

Great idea. Thy could do a tie in with these guys 😉

https://www.uswitch.com/

All this talk about the next Switch, PS5 and Xbox Series. And here I am happy and content with my launch day Switch and the massive backlog of games I have accrued since it's release that will tide me over for the next three years.

introducing the Super Nintendo switch. would love it if they called it that not going to be called switch pro i don't think and please not new Nintendo switch he he.

A good idea would to combine aspects of the Switch and the WiiU.

@Evenmoresteven Actually that is smart gameplay from Nintendo why pigeon hole yourself.

@Bermanator Actually that was why the WiiU didn't make it the Switch is the Wii and WiiU upgrade why backtrack yourself.

@Miyamotosan Sadly true but I own 2 lol

nope, i am done lmao, switch isn't even damn old yet, they didn't wait patiently instead want to shove in another console release? really? then the switch hardly has games in it that makes people interested at all - don't even try, because i know for a fact people are going to white knight away and try it..please just don't. i am facing the reality that the switch may have lots of games but there not good..going, to be honest, the only games that are saving this darn console are either a few indie ones, the ports, and some new games, that's about it.

note: a great example of what i mean is how people are either selling the console, buying it to use it as decoration, or just don't even pick it up ..it feels empty..maybe i'm alone on this feeling for this console.

very depressed of how downhill nintendo has gotten, and it's not my issue here if ya'll wanna ignore this, okay? i'll keep to reality..ugh. now i understand the massive amount of switchs being sold in facebook market and on ebay if i am correct on ebay.

i do love the switch, but..it lacks, making another console is just not a good idea...please be patient new nintendo.

What did you think, it was wii, wii u, then switch,aka better wii u

The article title here by NL is 100% clickbait.
Hard-software integration is just saying the next console will be part of the vertically integrated Nintendo is building upon. It says nothing about the form of the console or when it will release.

Also the R&D for a new console needs to start now so in a few years it'll release when it needs to.

@Miyamotosan No. The Wii U had Miiverse.

Nintendo switch XXL with retina 17" display. Launch day release of madden 2022 and NHL 2022.

@SwitchForce I meant to maybe allow the use of the system itself as a game pad.

@Shepdawg1 I wouldn't mind too much if the next Nintendo generation consisted of separate home and portable consoles, but given the way the Switch prints money it's unlikely they'll stray too far.
I feel that the touch screen on the Switch was an odd choice. Any game that makes full use of the touch screen is basically only playable in handheld mode, while games that need detached joycons are only playable in docked/tabletop mode. This means that games can't commit fully to one control scheme (or have to half arse it to be playable in multiple modes).
I'd be happy if the Switch 2 had some way to allow simultaneous touch screen and TV use... basically making it also a Wii U 2.

@Bermanator This!

Perhaps building on the tech that allowed the Wii U to stream the image to the gamepad and making it so the Switch 2 dock can act as a wireless receiver of the image from the Switch 2, allowing both screens to work in conjunction. Hell, I'd be ok with it even if it was wired. I really liked the Wii U and feel like it had a ton of potential that was wasted by poor marketing.

Switch 2: switch edition and switch 2 console only

For all those wanders Switch is going to remain a Hyrbrid consoles. They found a working formula and will keep it that way. I rather have my Switch play where-ever and go-where-ever I choose. Rather be sitting on the couch being a life long couch potato. I rather have my options open then locked on the couch.

@DonSerrot
definitely agree there.
its why im personally hoping the next system is more like the jump from ds to 3ds, taking the base idea and working on it, along with having backwards compatibility with switch games.

@Miyamotosan LMAO

What is wrong with Nintendo? Why they keep ignoring the WiiU?
WiiU was not a mistake, the mistake was how they handle it and how they prematurely killed because of Switch......

Nintendo is worth 85 billion. They should invest some of that into people who know how to make good presentations.

I would love the new Nintendo switch to play 3ds games and wii games plus Nintendo switch games and previous Nintendo console games don’t release console frequent as I currently spent 6 hundred already invested in switch and will be pissed off there’s another switch console release so what are the previous switch console owners supposed to do now trade in the console or wait till it’s discontinued like 3ds and Nintendo wii 😤😤😤😤😤😭😭😭

@Bermanator combine the switch and wii plus wii u and 3ds and previous Nintendo console and hybrid it like the switch don’t rush Nintendo in release new console they also need to consider that some of us can’t afford to keep spending £500 upwards every year or every 5 years when they release consoles. Should focus on makeing the best console they can to suit every Nintendo fan old or new otherwise Nintendo fans won’t be happy with having to spent fortune for console

New system will be called NIHSS.

Nintendo Integrated Hardware-Software System.

You heard it here first.

Maybe they get its online multiplayer options finally right although doubtful they have never been dedicated to a good online experienc. I dont expect them to xhange there even though this pandemic might push them in that direction finally.

@Dman10 I disagree mate I think physical media is important.

@elias84631 For the most part yes. There are some exceptions like Wild Rift, Onmyoji Arena, Pokemon Unite. If you like moba's there are plenty of great mobas on phones. Sadly not much else. Aside from these games, Sky, rhythm games the quality is questionable at best. Netease make some good games. Right now i play LOTR: Rise to War and its pretty good and fun game. We have Diablo: Immortal to look forward to also. The platform is changing but slowly and we have Switch to thank for that to be honest. Nvidia would be dominating the mobile market and the chips would be much better. Sadly right now were stuck with snapdragon 888 and nobody is really trying to make the mobile market better just few companies. Riot, Netease, That Game Company.