If I had 190$ I would spend them in something else. The should really, really drop those prices.

It would be cool if Nintendo actually listed changes on every update instead of having us guess and get a feel and potentially get placebo'd.

I know there using it as a reason to buy a Switch 2 but honestly I think Switch 1 could of done decent GameCube emulation, fact we got Sunshine in wide screen and hd textures and on a cartridge on Switch 1 proves it can be done. Still odd why Sunshine hasn't been added yet to NSO tho Wario World is more then welcomed

Just finished the demo.

Looks great, plays great. I do wish they could have gotten it to at least 40FPS, but considering the fan sounded pretty maxed out whilst playing, I can accept the limitations.

Anyone who has not played this before is in for a treat.

I played it back in in October / early November and had no problems with input lag back then - at least none that I noticed.

Still a hard pass unless devs offer up an easy mode/adjustable difficulty. Raging at a game for weeks is not an enjoyable use of my time. Shame the devs have made the choice to exclude a significant portion of gamers from their business model. Works for them clearly, and I’m happy for anyone who enjoys this project.

Im definitely going to give this a download when I get home from work. If things work out well, ill have both Metroid Prime 4 and Red Dead Redemption completed by the time it releases.

Based on the anemic marketing, I get the feeling that Nintendo was anticipating the somewhat lukewarm reception. There was no dedicated Direct, for instance. For a title as anticipated as MP4, you would expect it to be given the "VIP treatment".

For comparison, Dread was an OLED launch title and got a collector's edition.

Me; boss

Boss; yes?

Me: coughing* i dont feel...

Boss: yea i know FF7 is in the air coughing*

@Suketoudara Awesome, thank you for letting me know. Will definitely give F-Zero GX another shot then! I played it a ton back on GC, hopefully it now more closely replicates the feel of the original.

@JohnnyMind & also @Suketoudara People often overreact to a lot of things on the internet, and they're really too quick to judge anything as being worse than it really is. Whether it's gameplay, graphics, nerdy voice acting in the isolated shooter adventure, that one tiny little sidequest in the corner of the map in a JRPG, etc. It is what it is though, I'd say don't let these things judge how you yourself experience these games. You be the judge of your own experience!

The artsyle and humor in this game are top notch, the system and progression are very well made, hope this update refreshes the fun I had with it! Amazing little gem

@topsekret It is the same with Skyrim.

That one is even worse. It added over 40GB in storage and you are hard pressed to notice the difference in-game.
In fact, the game is now 37GB larger than on any other platform. It's nuts.

I love this soundtrack.

Why won’t this team take money?? Two of the greatest games of all time and they simply won’t charge for their work 😂

@JohnnyMind Yeah, that's ridiculously hyperbolic but that seems to be a common thing with a lot of the Switch 2 discourse online :-/

@Anti-Matter I think that the Wii U HD version with the Gamepad is the best way to play the game. With the Gamepad, inventory management no longer pauses the game. Of all the improvements in the HD version, this one feature has the most impact on gameplay.

@Kid_Sickarus I can’t think of anything Fates did better than Awakening. The cast didn’t feel particularly memorable outside of a few select characters and the story was oftentimes painful because of the number of routes making motivations incredibly muddled to justify why they won’t listen to reason in each of them. The sheer contrivance of a lot of the conflict in Fates goes beyond simple plot convenience, its fanfic levels at times. Gameplay wise, it’s just OK, but the child unit justification was incredibly weak and again felt like them trying to use features from Awakening that actually had narrative purpose there. Fates is probably the least inspiring FE game out there, everyone remembers it for Camilla’s design but I don’t know a single person who’s went to seek out their old 3DS to replay it, it’s just not really worth the effort.

If they do do DLC I hope the quality is good. (The Switch DLC was of poor quality. The Wii U DLC was the same quality as the rest of the game so okay.) I wish there was more incentive to go for first the whole race. (I only play knockout tour.) I guess it is okay at a £30 premium over the console on its own but it is definitely not worth its full price. (I don’t get why people have any interest in playing hours and hours of Mario Kart other than in like a student house etc. I put 300 hours into the Steam version of all stars racing transformed because it actually had something I wanted to improve at. There should be none of me thinking I wish I was playing something else for the amount of MKW I have played and there is a lot.)

@Yosher F-Zero GX feels a lot better, if there is still a lag it's really not noticable to me.

Wind Waker as I recall had a bit of lag in the original game played on the GameCube too, definitely in the roll at least which has a slight delay built in.

I would guess the low reviews of both critics/players and the high price tag puts people off. I would also pass on a game this expensive if I was not a big fan. Well, to be honest, after playing it I would also advise people to pass if they are not big fans. For a lower price one can get great games like Hades2, Silksong, Absolum, etc...

For those wondering, the demo's file size is 7.9GB. That's less than a 10th the size of the full game

Nice. Will try this evening. I played this through once on Steam Deck and it ran well. Hoping for the same on SW2.

I hate the game, but since it's a GKC I might buy it to support the format.

@electrolite77 yeah that’s a great point. There is literally not a single console that had an online store where you cannot still access the content you purchased in past and we are getting close to 20 years now.

I still really don’t like the idea of game key cards. I suppose they are fine for some games that you might try and dislike, or games that you know you’ll only play for a brief time like sports games.

I already have Wii U version and I didn't experience with lag input.
The Wii U version looked way much better than GameCube version, more colorful and brighter.

Was really excited for this, especially since they’ve decided to price it reasonably on the eshop instead of being greedy, but the more I think about it, maybe I should wait for a potential sale leading up to the launch of the second game in the trilogy since I’ll be avoiding the “physical” and honestly don’t really fancy waiting ages to play parts 2 and 3. There’s also the small case of my big backlog.

What about other GC titles? It felt bad on F-Zero as well. If it's just Wind Waker that's kinda, whatever, but a step in the right direction.

That's cool and all but i'd still prefer it if they released the HD version on Switch 2

I haven't played it on NSO, yet. I played the game on Wii U and don't feel a particular need to revisit it on NSO, because the Wii U version is superior. But glad to read that the input lag issues have been resolved!

@electrolite77 The thing is that it's always been like that with Steam on PC, but for some reason Nintendo fans can't seem to get used to the idea that the future will be digital only. I'm very keen on physical collection, but I've got peace with the game key card thing. I wonder how long people will cling onto the Anti-GKC-bandwagon.

@PinderSchloss Totally. As it is, the idea that I have for a Zelda anime (based on a webnovel that I am currently writing) would see Ufotable animate it, not Ghibli. I know that many people say Ghibli or no one at all, but I just don't think they're the right choice for a Zelda anime. And I stand by that.

This is one game that I may have to break my physical law for as I love the original so much that I really want to play this game.

Hate it how its Game Key-Card so will save the plastic and go full download if I like the Demo

@Hero-of-WiiU yeah, the coders.

Also known as skill issues

"Actually playable" 😂😂😂

I suggest playing it on a GameCube, a Wii and if you don't have one of those, your phone will likely run it very well.

@TomSupreme

Yep. And it is actually a far superior solution to code in a box as the games have re-sell value. I genuinely don't understand the hubbub around it.

Switch 2 carts are crazy expensive, this was probably the only way Nintendo could convince third party's to release games physically.

@SBandy1 This Game Key-Card bashing is crazy. I get it that collectors are unsatisfied, but missing out a potential good game?

@topsekret

Looks like you will be missing out on a lot of games then.

@topsekret Just get it from the eShop. All games will be digital-only by next gen anyway...

This game's credit theme is one of the best out there honestly. Also, surprisingly many tracks for this game, even when taking out all the "hurry up" versions.

Also I never knew this game has two of those hurry up versions. Time is just rarely an issue in this game for me.

@SpaceboyScreams how can people tell it isn’t good if they haven’t played it? What a stupid argument.

Nope, I'm not interested in picking this up since it's on a Game-Key Card.