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Tekken 3D's Multiplayer Mode is 2D Only

Posted by James Newton

Pulling punches

Tekken 3D Prime Edition's bulging cart of 41 characters and a full-length 3D movie is nothing to be trifled with, and the latest Iwata Asks reveals plenty of interesting nuggets — and, indeed, noodles — about next week's scrapper. One such fact is that the stereoscopic display isn't available in wireless multiplayer.

A footnote to director Katsuhiro Harada's comment has this to say:

60 frames per second (fps): Animation using 60 image frames per second. The more frames there are, the smoother the animation. In Tekken 3D: Prime Edition, the game supports 60 frames per second during wireless play, but stereoscopic 3D display is not supported.

Multiplayer mode runs at a full 60fps but at the expense of stereoscopic 3D graphics. Are you happy with the trade-off, or wouldn't you mind a frame rate bump if it meant seeing your opponent's battered face in glorious 3D?

We'll publish our Tekken 3D Prime Edition review on Tuesday.

[via iwataasks.nintendo.com]

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JustAnotherUser

#1

JustAnotherUser said:

I would have preferred the option for 30FPS in 3D and 60FPS in 2D.
But I can't really complain. They did what they needed to do to have it at 60FPS :)

Raptor78

#2

Raptor78 said:

I tend to play in 2D most of the time anyway, so not really a deal breaker for me.

LordTendoboy

#3

LordTendoboy said:

I really don't care about the 3D effect, since I can't see it even when I wear my glasses. So it's no big deal.

eviLaTtenDant

#4

eviLaTtenDant said:

This is Ono's revenge. He manipulated the code last minute to make his game look less pathetic in comparison.

Tails

#5

Tails said:

They took out too many modes for this game. So I cancelled my preorder and decided instead to preorder Tales of the Abyss 3D. Which also comes out the same day. No harm done on my end. Might pick up the game when it is around $25 or less though.

Sakura_Moonlight2421

#7

Sakura_Moonlight2421 said:

@5: You gotta remember that it has to be able to play the 3D Tekken movie on the 3DS without hiccups.

IMO I'd take a 3D movie included over more modes.

dizzy_boy

#9

dizzy_boy said:

loosing 3D in multiplayer isn`t a huge deal as i rarely use the 3D anyway.
also, i don`t see the problem with having the movie over extra modes. just as long as i`ve got the main game, multi player, training mode, and the basic options menu, everything else is a bonus and probably not going to be used very much anyway.

Takosuke

#12

Takosuke said:

Why not give the option to toggle? It irritates me when developers hack out functionality. Hell I'm not even interested in this game.

misswliu81

#13

misswliu81 said:

not having the 3D effect doesn't bother me at all- the fact it still has 40+ characters and a few other features still warrants a purchase.

looking forward to the review.

Kifa

#14

Kifa said:

Even Nintendo states that 3D is optional for 3DS, and that it should not be forced where it does not belong. I think here the cause for disabling 3D effect is the wireless driver - for a fighting game it needs to be as close to "no lag" as possible, which means consuming additional horsepower. So perhaps it was not possible to run the game at 60fps with 3D and WiFi enabled - personally I think that removing 3D support in multi is a better choice than reducing the framerate to 30fps. That would've been unacceptable by many.

Spoony_Tech

#15

Spoony_Tech said:

Lame! I understand why they did it but it defeats the point of having a 3d system. I always play with my 3d maxed! Like was said above I'm getting tales that day as well so can get both. Ill also wait till it comes down in price. Namco two games in one day is cutting into your profits. Even if they're two totally different genres!

Ducutzu

#16

Ducutzu said:

I love the 3D effect and I always play with it on. I am a bit disappointed with this... but it's not such a big deal. They probably had their (technical) reasons for this choice.

RVN

#18

RVN said:

I have no problem with this except for the fact that it makes a lie out of that Ono and Harada trailer :(

chewytapeworm

#19

chewytapeworm said:

Man that sucks. Can it work when you play online? Tbh I'm not even sure if you can play online... But I'd take that over the movie anyway. I do like Tekken plenty, but the Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat films were utter stinkers and I can't see the Tekken film doing anything other than following suit. They should've kept the modes and included the film on a seperate cartridge :]

AVahne

#20

AVahne said:

Having Tekken run in 30 FPS would be disgusting, even in 3D. Glad they maintained 60.

DarkKirby

#23

DarkKirby said:

Everyone knows about the FPS tradeoff when switching to 3D, odd for them to not give the choice to the player though.

AVahne

#24

AVahne said:

I don't see where it says that this Tekken won't have as many modes as the other games, someone point it out for me please.

enda_o

#25

enda_o said:

Online will be rubbish anyway.

They have not 4 super casual game ruining macros buttons but 12.

12 OF THEM.

Online will be absolutely boring and cheap. So who cares if its not in 3D

warioswoods

#27

warioswoods said:

Every shot I've seen of this game just looks so... cheap. I hope I'm proven wrong when I have a chance to see it in person, but I just can't view this favorably alongside something as gorgeous and DOA:Dimensions.

Undead_terror

#29

Undead_terror said:

na dont care bout the 3 but i would like modes like survival,tournament,etc still gonna get tho because tekken is good

BulbasaurusRex

#31

BulbasaurusRex said:

@19 Those were Hollywood live-action adaptations. This is a much-cared-for animated movie.

@25 I'm pretty sure they'll have the option to battle against only non-macro users like in SSF4:3D.

I understand it's probably impossible to have a smooth online experience in 3D at 60 FPS. I'd personally prefer 3D at 30 FPS, as I can't tell the difference between 30 and 60 FPS except for side-by-side comparisons, but either option is much better than dealing with lag online.

As for the gameplay modes, it looks like Quick Battle is pretty much the same thing as Arcade Mode in other fighting games. I'd rather have a Story Mode than Survival Mode, but I can understand if they only had enough room left for a smaller mode like Survival Mode, while the movie acts as a non-interactive Story Mode.

Anyway, I'm excited to receive my pre-order. It will just take a while, as I combined it with another order on Amazon.com to get free (slower) shipping on both items.

shonenjump86

#32

shonenjump86 said:

@ misswliu81
Thanks for the info :) I also heard that some sort of tag battle is gonna b on there.

tripunktoj

#33

tripunktoj said:

I hardly ever notice difference in frame rate and I always use my 3DS with the depth slider to the top, so I would've preferred 30fps in 3D. But thats just me, I have never been interested in this game, but I wouldnt like fps to take priority over 3d in more games.

WolfRamHeart

#34

WolfRamHeart said:

I didn't realize that this game was so close to being released. I'm sure that it will be a good game but I already have several other 3DS games pre-ordered that take priority over this one. I'll pick it up later when it drops in price.

BulbasaurusRex

#35

BulbasaurusRex said:

@34 It still has 3D in solo play and local multiplayer. It's not like they're cutting it out completely.

Sig

#37

Sig said:

Is it for balance issues? They don't want people who can only see in 2D have the disadvantage to people who have the 3D on. Could also be the extra power is being used for networking.

BudrSbastig

#38

BudrSbastig said:

The USP of the 3ds is glasses free 3d. I love playing games with the 3d. If games start to come out with out 3d, I and many many other will buy same game on vita. Nintendo should set standards not allowing 3dless games on the 3ds.

dizzy_boy

#39

dizzy_boy said:

@BudrSbastig i don`t think that it would do any good if nintendo forced 3rd party devs to make all of there games use 3D.
tbh, nintendo needs to keep as many options open for the 3rd party devs as posdible, i would hate to see good games get passed over to the vita or cut down because of people being stubborn.

JayceJa

#40

JayceJa said:

more games need to ignore 3d and focus on improved performance instead
3D is a useless gimmick that really adds nothing to most games except power and performance hits, and 90% of the time isnt used well enough to be worth it

Vincent294

#41

Vincent294 said:

Well, was it Dead or Alive bad w/ 3D, or was Namco just "Ohhh, the pain! 59.999 frames per second! Boo hoo!" If it was the latter possibility, shame on Namco.

WaveyChristmas

#42

WaveyChristmas said:

I could care less, Tekken is hands down my least favorite fighting franchise of all blippin' time.

Soul Calibur V 3D? Yes please! :D

GameLord08

#44

GameLord08 said:

I'm cool with it. I like the idea of smoother animation during online multiplayer; gives for more enjoyment, IMO. If you need 3D that badly, you can always just go single mode. And the inclusion of a 3D CGI-animated full-length movie? Yes, please. :O

grimbldoo

#45

grimbldoo said:

I hate these fighting games in 3D, especially since they walk slowly and you have to be locked on (of course you need this though), and that is why tekken will not get the same crowd as SSB.

Supremeist

#46

Supremeist said:

Atleast it's gotta have 60fps now. Don't really care much about this news, because although the 3D is nice to have, It's gonna give you a break from it which is nice.

TheRegginator

#47

TheRegginator said:

It makes sense. If a game can't run in 60 FPS and in 3D, not everybody should be forced to use 30 FPS online, with or without 3D.

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