I played the first one on mobile a few months ago. It's...okay? I thought a lot of the puzzles were a little too much of the block pushing variety and the combat was just alright. Maybe that is because I was playing on a phone and generally dislike playing games on a phone.
Okay, so I do take issue with the "scraping the bottom of the barrel" comment. These games are actually pretty good. Urban Champion is scraping the bottom of the barrel. However, it's clear that the NES well is beginning to run dry. Don't worry folks, we'll have SNES games by year end. They could put Double Dragon 3 and the rest of the Ninja Gaiden series plus Tecmo Super Bowl on there.
Why not call it the "Lite Switch"? That's my dad joke for the day. Anyway, my kids are playing with our Switch quite a bit more now so I may get one so I can have a dedicated handheld version for myself. It still play the 3DS and it seems to suit my time constraints well.
...and that is why I don't play these games anymore. I played the GBA and DS games but this just requires too much time. Same with Xenoblade. I also have more kids and responsibility so I've accepted the fact that I don't have time for these games. But 80 hours for one path? Wow.
@StephenYap3 Agreed. Puyo Puyo Tetris definitely scratches that itch for me. Of course, if you don't have Puyo Puyo Tetris, you could pay $10 for this and $10 for Puyo Puyo Champions...
I debate with my 15 year old son about this all the time. He loves Smash Bros. and has since Brawl. He also loves Enter the Gungeon and roguelike games likes that. I just turned 41 and I've tried but I just can't get into either of them. I figured it was more of a generational thing but who knows? I'm more into platformers, metroidvanias, adventure and puzzle games (also the occasional RPG). I think being a gamer is like saying you work in IT, it is a very broad description and encompasses a lot of different interests.
I played OoT for the first time when it was 15 years old since I was a PS1/Dreamcast gamer in the late 90s. I also played the 3DS remake. I loved it and now my 10 year old son is playing it as his first Zelda game. It's not my favorite Zelda since I prefer 2D entries like Link to the Past, Link's Awakening and A Link Between Worlds. However, it is called a "classic" for a reason and remains one of the best ever.
@VR32X I believe I read somewhere that he no longer owns the rights to those 3D games. When he and his partner split Renegade Kid, Jools took the IP rights to all the 2D sprite-based games and the other guy (his name slips my mind, sorry!) took the rights to the 3D games.
@KeeperBvK Jeremy Parish interviewed the founder of Image and Form for Retronauts several weeks ago. They talked quite a bit about Steamworld Tower Defense as the "origin story" for the world and its lore. It's only $5 on the eShop right now. I think people forgot about it because it was DSiWare.
And yet... All these reviewers and Nintendo related sites constantly say things like "clearly Nintendo is winding the 3DS down" and reacts with incredulity whenever a new game is announced for it. With sales like that, why not support it? I think most of those folks need to realize that not everyone is an early adopter that stood in line to buy a Switch on day 1.
With that said, I've heard even people at work taking about the Switch, something I never heard with Wii U or even 3DS.
@justin233 I think a Sunshine HD on Switch is likely to happen. Probably next year. Then they will release NSMB Switch in 2019. Or maybe the reverse will occur, but they will make sure you have plenty of Mario to play on your Switch.
The bottom line: Jools isn't very good at reading the market. People have been wanting Treasurenauts for ages, but it's nowhere to be found. People wanted a more fleshed out sequel to Mutant Mudds, so he makes an extra hard version. He mistakenly thought people wanted remasters of his DS games, which were good but were pretty niche to begin with. Can't really expect big sales there. Xeodrifter was good (two of my boys loved it) but short. Then comes Chicken Wiggle, which is really ambitious but is missing the essential ingredients. To pull off the "make and share" approach, you need a highly recognizable property or you need to wrap a great game around it. Mario Maker and Pushmo are two successful examples of this. Everyone wants to make Mario levels. Pushmo had so much great content you were inspired to make and share your own, but if you didn't want to there was still a great game at a great price. Chicken Wiggle has neither of these things.
Honestly, I've decided to quit being stressed and simply quit buying Nintendo products until they are generally available. There are much better uses of time than to try and run down something a company is determined to sell only to a privileged/fanatic few. So no classic consoles or Switch for me. 3DS all the way and I'm perfectly happy.
I'm not one to usually complain about this but what exactly is their problem? I played the first one to death and was waiting for the second collection to purchase on day one. But I am a Nintendo gamer. I don't have time to invest in other platforms, so they just lost my business. And no, I don't really care about their lazy $40 SF2 port.
I got the first with the humble bundle but didn't play it. Now this just saves me the trouble of playing it and spending money on this. Honestly, I'm not planning on upgrading to Switch for quite a while. I just hope that Switch is the super awesome Indie platform all these people are expecting. I'm a little skeptical that this in particular will sell well.
From a business standpoint, this totally makes sense. They can just use Facebook to do basically the same thing as Miiverse except for maybe the game integration, which I always turned off anyway. They can just create communities for every game on Facebook and moderate them there. It's clear that with Switch Nintendo is moving in a different direction.
This was a good article. So, I agree with big time with the "Leave 3DS as a budget device". Drop the price to no more than $150 for the New 3DS XL. Ideally, $130, with the New 3DS sitting at $100 and the 2DS at $60. Support through 2018.
Also, I would add to the resolution list "Make My Nintendo Worthwhile". My goodness, especially in America, My Nintendo has been abysmal so far. The latest rewards include 30% off Wrecking Crew? I mean, really? Why not just give that game as a reward for 30 gold coins or something?
Yeah, Pushmo World is one I would have put on the list. Also, Little Inferno and Human Resource Machine. But lists like these are impossible to make. Good job!
I think they will leverage the Switch platform to its fullest extent. The successor to the 3DS will likely be a portable that is based on the Switch platform and plays the same games. No docking. Maybe has a 4.5 inch screen so it fits in your pocket. The cartridge format and the use of Tegra gives them this flexibility. I bet that is coming in 2018 for $200. They could maybe even have some kind of DS/3DS backward compatibility with it. Switch Pocket?
I'm really done with it. I have enough 3DS and Wii U games to play for at least a year, maybe two. At this point, I don't even see myself buying an NX.
@Zach Why? Because he's an artist who also dares to be a Christian and not just keep it to himself while at the same time making quality games when the opportunity arises? Oh no, we can't allow that to happen...I guess I would say that I can appreciate a lot of music, movies and games even if I don't entirely agree with the artist's worldview. I'm just glad we see games like this from time to time because we certainly see more and more of the "young girl tease" games out of Japan. That I find much more uncomfortable than anything Doug T. stands for.
As a point of feedback, this review was not very well written. It did not explain in any way why the game received a 6. Difficulty and no pro controller support do not seem like big complaints to me. Other than that, it seemed like the reviewer liked the game. I haven't played the game, but this review seemed a little unfair.
Yeah, I played it for about a half hour and deleted it. Sorry Nintendo (and Next Level), I love you, your games are generally great, but this one is just not that good. Maybe the actual Federation Force game will be good but if I get it I won't be playing Blast Ball.
@Windy Yeah, I'm not sure. I really like the 3DS (and the DS and GBA before it). The prevailing opinion from places like Nintendo Voice Chat is that Nintendo will at least support the 3DS for another year or two. Beyond that, I'm sure it really just depends on the sales of the NX.
@Windy Yeah, I agree with you. I really like Level 5 games and I usually end up deleting most of the mobile games I put on my phone, even if I buy them. However, they are a business and the money is clearly in the mobile market if you play your cards right. However, you can also easily get lost in the sea of garbage and malware as well. Well, for now anyway they are continuing to support 3DS as well as mobile so that is a good thing.
@Windy Level 5 is definitely about to sell out to smartphones. Akihiro Hino basically said so in a recent interview when he talked about how all the Japanese kids carry smartphones now instead of 3DS's. I think there is an article on this site about it.
Honestly, as soon as I saw the "powered by Tegra X1" rumor, I assumed this would be the case. The Tegra X1 is a mobile chipset that powers a device that runs mobile games.
Yeah, I think the discounts part of the program is going to flop big time. My prediction is that they will begin offering VC games or DLC for gold rewards. Platinum will be reserved for the occasional free game and mobile reward.
With that said though, I've been eyeing Pikmin 3 for a long time....
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Re: Nintendo Officially Unveils Ring Fit Adventure, An Exercised-Based Adventure Game
This actually looks better than I thought it would. I bet my kids would love this, especially the ones who don't normally like video games.
Re: The Original Ittle Dew Brings Its Zelda-Inspired Adventure To Switch Next Week
I played the first one on mobile a few months ago. It's...okay? I thought a lot of the puzzles were a little too much of the block pushing variety and the combat was just alright. Maybe that is because I was playing on a phone and generally dislike playing games on a phone.
Re: A Rewind Feature And Two NES Games Are Coming To Nintendo Switch Online This Month
Okay, so I do take issue with the "scraping the bottom of the barrel" comment. These games are actually pretty good. Urban Champion is scraping the bottom of the barrel. However, it's clear that the NES well is beginning to run dry. Don't worry folks, we'll have SNES games by year end. They could put Double Dragon 3 and the rest of the Ninja Gaiden series plus Tecmo Super Bowl on there.
Re: Gallery: Here's What The Nintendo Switch Lite Looks Like
Why not call it the "Lite Switch"? That's my dad joke for the day. Anyway, my kids are playing with our Switch quite a bit more now so I may get one so I can have a dedicated handheld version for myself. It still play the 3DS and it seems to suit my time constraints well.
Re: Fire Emblem: Three Houses Director Reveals It Took Him 80 Hours To Complete One Pathway
...and that is why I don't play these games anymore. I played the GBA and DS games but this just requires too much time. Same with Xenoblade. I also have more kids and responsibility so I've accepted the fact that I don't have time for these games. But 80 hours for one path? Wow.
Re: Tetris 99 Big Block DLC Adds Two New Offline Game Modes
@StephenYap3 Agreed. Puyo Puyo Tetris definitely scratches that itch for me. Of course, if you don't have Puyo Puyo Tetris, you could pay $10 for this and $10 for Puyo Puyo Champions...
Re: Donkey Kong Jr., Clu Clu Land And VS. Excitebike Join The Switch Online NES Library On 15th May
This is boring.
Re: Review: BOXBOY! + BOXGIRL! - A Challenging Little Puzzle-Platformer That Ticks Most Of The Boxes
My only question is, when is Switchmo coming out? ๐คจ Like others, I enjoyed the 3DS games so I'll probably pick this one up.
Re: Hindsight 20/20 Is A New Zelda-Inspired Action-Adventure Coming To Switch In 2020
This looks like a hard pass. I know others have said it looks good, but it just looks janky with gratuitous blood.
Re: Soapbox: I Don't 'Get' Smash Bros. And I Just Don't Know Why
I debate with my 15 year old son about this all the time. He loves Smash Bros. and has since Brawl. He also loves Enter the Gungeon and roguelike games likes that. I just turned 41 and I've tried but I just can't get into either of them. I figured it was more of a generational thing but who knows? I'm more into platformers, metroidvanias, adventure and puzzle games (also the occasional RPG). I think being a gamer is like saying you work in IT, it is a very broad description and encompasses a lot of different interests.
Re: SteamWorld Dev Image & Form Says 2019 Will Be "Huge", News Coming "Sooner Than You Think"
@Spoony_Tech I agree. I think it will be a turn - based or action RPG in the Steamworld universe.
Re: Feature: A 20th Anniversary Zelda Adventure - Playing Ocarina Of Time For The First Time
I played OoT for the first time when it was 15 years old since I was a PS1/Dreamcast gamer in the late 90s. I also played the 3DS remake. I loved it and now my 10 year old son is playing it as his first Zelda game. It's not my favorite Zelda since I prefer 2D entries like Link to the Past, Link's Awakening and A Link Between Worlds. However, it is called a "classic" for a reason and remains one of the best ever.
Re: You Can Now Get 50% Off All Atooi Games On Nintendo Switch
@VR32X I believe I read somewhere that he no longer owns the rights to those 3D games. When he and his partner split Renegade Kid, Jools took the IP rights to all the 2D sprite-based games and the other guy (his name slips my mind, sorry!) took the rights to the 3D games.
Re: Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams - Owltimate Edition Arrives On Switch This Month
@BigKing That's what I thought as well. Pricing at $15 again would probably be fair. $30?? Pass.
Re: Review: Unexplored (Switch eShop)
Here is another decent review: https://nindienexus.net/unexplored-switch-review/
Re: Tiny Hands Adventure Aims To Give Yooka-Laylee A Run For Its 3D Platforming Money On Switch
It doesn't look that great.
Re: Rumour: Spyro Trilogy Coming To Multiple Formats Next Year After PS4 Exclusivity Ends
Played all three Spyro games back in the day on PS1. Might have to check these out. I bet my kids would love them.
Re: Review: SteamWorld Dig (Switch eShop)
@KeeperBvK Jeremy Parish interviewed the founder of Image and Form for Retronauts several weeks ago. They talked quite a bit about Steamworld Tower Defense as the "origin story" for the world and its lore. It's only $5 on the eShop right now. I think people forgot about it because it was DSiWare.
Re: Review: SteamWorld Dig (Switch eShop)
@Fazermint you would need Steamworld Tower Defense to have the complete collection, but I don't that is coming to Switch. ๐
Re: Nintendo Switch Tops US Sales In December, 3DS Sales Highest Since 2014
And yet... All these reviewers and Nintendo related sites constantly say things like "clearly Nintendo is winding the 3DS down" and reacts with incredulity whenever a new game is announced for it. With sales like that, why not support it? I think most of those folks need to realize that not everyone is an early adopter that stood in line to buy a Switch on day 1.
With that said, I've heard even people at work taking about the Switch, something I never heard with Wii U or even 3DS.
Re: Anniversary: It's Been 10 Years Since Super Mario Galaxy Landed On The Wii
@justin233 I think a Sunshine HD on Switch is likely to happen. Probably next year. Then they will release NSMB Switch in 2019. Or maybe the reverse will occur, but they will make sure you have plenty of Mario to play on your Switch.
Re: Nintendo Download: 14th September (North America)
Metroid for me. Oh yeah!
Re: Review: Metroid: Samus Returns (3DS)
I can't wait to play my pre-ordered copy.
Re: Jools Watsham Highlights Low Chicken Wiggle Sales, Confirms Upcoming Discount
The bottom line: Jools isn't very good at reading the market. People have been wanting Treasurenauts for ages, but it's nowhere to be found. People wanted a more fleshed out sequel to Mutant Mudds, so he makes an extra hard version. He mistakenly thought people wanted remasters of his DS games, which were good but were pretty niche to begin with. Can't really expect big sales there. Xeodrifter was good (two of my boys loved it) but short. Then comes Chicken Wiggle, which is really ambitious but is missing the essential ingredients. To pull off the "make and share" approach, you need a highly recognizable property or you need to wrap a great game around it. Mario Maker and Pushmo are two successful examples of this. Everyone wants to make Mario levels. Pushmo had so much great content you were inspired to make and share your own, but if you didn't want to there was still a great game at a great price. Chicken Wiggle has neither of these things.
Re: Video: Celebrate Kirby's 25th Anniversary With This Special Trailer
Canvas Curse is my favorite, but I like a lot of them a lot. My son and I just finished Kirby's Return to Dreamland on the Wii U.
Re: Editorial: The Frustrating Quest for a SNES Mini is Bad Business for Nintendo
Honestly, I've decided to quit being stressed and simply quit buying Nintendo products until they are generally available. There are much better uses of time than to try and run down something a company is determined to sell only to a privileged/fanatic few. So no classic consoles or Switch for me. 3DS all the way and I'm perfectly happy.
Re: Mega Man Legacy Collection 2 is Announced, But is Skipping Nintendo Switch and 3DS
I'm not one to usually complain about this but what exactly is their problem? I played the first one to death and was waiting for the second collection to purchase on day one. But I am a Nintendo gamer. I don't have time to invest in other platforms, so they just lost my business. And no, I don't really care about their lazy $40 SF2 port.
Re: My Nintendo Gets a Fresh Batch of Rewards
@CheezIt The Spring Holiday Season is Easter/Passover. That is why the theme is around eggs, you know, for Easter.
Re: The Fall Part 2: Unbound is Confirmed for Nintendo Switch But Isn't Coming to Wii U
I got the first with the humble bundle but didn't play it. Now this just saves me the trouble of playing it and spending money on this. Honestly, I'm not planning on upgrading to Switch for quite a while. I just hope that Switch is the super awesome Indie platform all these people are expecting. I'm a little skeptical that this in particular will sell well.
Re: Nintendo Download: 30th March (North America)
@andrew20 I'm thinking that ship has sailed. Nintendo hasn't updated 3DS VC since Dec.
Re: Two More 3DS Titles Are Joining the Nintendo Selects Range in North America
Dream Team is a great game, though a little hand holdy and long winded. I plan to pick up Kirby Triple Deluxe since I missed that one.
Re: Review: Toki Tori 3D (3DS eShop)
This is now on sale for $0.67. Do yourself a favor and pick it up immediately. You will get 5 or so hours of fun for less than one dollar.
Re: Nintendo Switch Won't Have Miiverse Or StreetPass
From a business standpoint, this totally makes sense. They can just use Facebook to do basically the same thing as Miiverse except for maybe the game integration, which I always turned off anyway. They can just create communities for every game on Facebook and moderate them there. It's clear that with Switch Nintendo is moving in a different direction.
Re: Feature: Five New Year's Resolutions for Nintendo
This was a good article. So, I agree with big time with the "Leave 3DS as a budget device". Drop the price to no more than $150 for the New 3DS XL. Ideally, $130, with the New 3DS sitting at $100 and the 2DS at $60. Support through 2018.
Also, I would add to the resolution list "Make My Nintendo Worthwhile". My goodness, especially in America, My Nintendo has been abysmal so far. The latest rewards include 30% off Wrecking Crew? I mean, really? Why not just give that game as a reward for 30 gold coins or something?
Re: Feature: 30 Essential Wii U eShop Games
Yeah, Pushmo World is one I would have put on the list. Also, Little Inferno and Human Resource Machine. But lists like these are impossible to make. Good job!
Re: Nintendo President Tatsumi Kimishima Feels The 3DS Can "Continue In Its Own Form"
I think they will leverage the Switch platform to its fullest extent. The successor to the 3DS will likely be a portable that is based on the Switch platform and plays the same games. No docking. Maybe has a 4.5 inch screen so it fits in your pocket. The cartridge format and the use of Tegra gives them this flexibility. I bet that is coming in 2018 for $200. They could maybe even have some kind of DS/3DS backward compatibility with it. Switch Pocket?
Re: Editorial: Some Context on the Nintendo NX 'This Week' Claims
I'm really done with it. I have enough 3DS and Wii U games to play for at least a year, maybe two. At this point, I don't even see myself buying an NX.
Re: Editorial: Some Context on the Nintendo NX 'This Week' Claims
https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/787586221744590848
Here is the link to my earlier comment. He did say it's "speculation".
Re: Editorial: Some Context on the Nintendo NX 'This Week' Claims
I believe someone from the WSJ also tweeted that NX information is likely coming this week.
Re: Video: Get a Feel for the Case in This Chase: Cold Case Investigations - Distant Memories Trailer
Is this coming to the US?
Re: Risa Tabata Talks Paper Mario's New Focus on Puzzle-Solving
@Phin68 I wouldn't be surprised if it did.
Re: Armikrog
@Zach Why? Because he's an artist who also dares to be a Christian and not just keep it to himself while at the same time making quality games when the opportunity arises? Oh no, we can't allow that to happen...I guess I would say that I can appreciate a lot of music, movies and games even if I don't entirely agree with the artist's worldview. I'm just glad we see games like this from time to time because we certainly see more and more of the "young girl tease" games out of Japan. That I find much more uncomfortable than anything Doug T. stands for.
Re: Review: Poncho (Wii U eShop)
As a point of feedback, this review was not very well written. It did not explain in any way why the game received a 6. Difficulty and no pro controller support do not seem like big complaints to me. Other than that, it seemed like the reviewer liked the game. I haven't played the game, but this review seemed a little unfair.
Re: Review: Metroid Prime: Blast Ball (3DS)
Yeah, I played it for about a half hour and deleted it. Sorry Nintendo (and Next Level), I love you, your games are generally great, but this one is just not that good. Maybe the actual Federation Force game will be good but if I get it I won't be playing Blast Ball.
Re: Level-5 Confirms New Inazuma Eleven Outing And NFC "Eleven Band" Accessory
@Windy Yeah, I'm not sure. I really like the 3DS (and the DS and GBA before it). The prevailing opinion from places like Nintendo Voice Chat is that Nintendo will at least support the 3DS for another year or two. Beyond that, I'm sure it really just depends on the sales of the NX.
Re: Level-5 Confirms New Inazuma Eleven Outing And NFC "Eleven Band" Accessory
@Windy Yeah, I agree with you. I really like Level 5 games and I usually end up deleting most of the mobile games I put on my phone, even if I buy them. However, they are a business and the money is clearly in the mobile market if you play your cards right. However, you can also easily get lost in the sea of garbage and malware as well. Well, for now anyway they are continuing to support 3DS as well as mobile so that is a good thing.
Re: Level-5 Confirms New Inazuma Eleven Outing And NFC "Eleven Band" Accessory
@Windy Level 5 is definitely about to sell out to smartphones. Akihiro Hino basically said so in a recent interview when he talked about how all the Japanese kids carry smartphones now instead of 3DS's. I think there is an article on this site about it.
Re: Wall Street Journal References Nintendo's NX Being 'Compatible' With Its Smart Device Games
Honestly, as soon as I saw the "powered by Tegra X1" rumor, I assumed this would be the case. The Tegra X1 is a mobile chipset that powers a device that runs mobile games.
Re: Nintendo Confirms Its E3 Plans for The Legend of Zelda
No Digital Event scheduled doesn't mean no Digital Event at all. Let's not jump to conclusions. They could have it the week before e3 as well.
Re: My Nintendo's Rewards Have Been Updated for May
Yeah, I think the discounts part of the program is going to flop big time. My prediction is that they will begin offering VC games or DLC for gold rewards. Platinum will be reserved for the occasional free game and mobile reward.
With that said though, I've been eyeing Pikmin 3 for a long time....