For all those who deify the RPG mode in the GBA, let me remind you that the story was absolutely throwaway and you played only generic characters until the very end of the game. I enjoyed the GBA game but in no way do I consider it the super awesome definitive game of tennis that some make it out to be. I guess I would rather have less story and more exposure to playing against or as a Mario universe character.
A few points: 1.) Nintendo is over-reliant on Mario, just like Disney was very reliant on Mickey Mouse and their franchise characters to drive people to their theme parks. This is empirically proven from both the number of games announced and the sales numbers that back them up. However, it makes good business sense, at least in the short term. We live in a capitalistic society so I don't see this as a problem. 2.) Those who are claiming that this game is "just more of the same" are basing that on exactly four screenshots. Can we wait until we see more of the game before passing judgment? In the meantime, go play some of the other 500 great games Nintendo has released. 3.) Mario is now ubiquitous in the way that Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Bugs Bunny, et. al became decades ago for past generations. All of my kids recognize Mario and Luigi, even if they are not yet old enough to play their games. Therefore, Nintendo will continue to capitalize on his popularity because they want to make money and introduce Mario games to the upcoming generation. Like the aforementioned characters, Mario will likely decrease in popularity as other iconic characters arise in pop culture. However, he will continue to be popular for a long while.
Those in their 30s (like me) who are complaining about the number of games attached to Mario need to realize that we are no longer the target demographic and that Nintendo is trying to reach the next generation.
Good games I have gotten on DS for cheap (i.e.less than $10): 1. Soul Bubbles 2. Lock's Quest 3. Elebits: The Adventures of Kai and Zero 4. Retro Game Challenge 5. Elite Beat Agents 6. Henry Hatsworth and the Puzzling Adventure
This sounds great. I played both Land of Illusion and Castle of Illusion. My younger brother owned the games but we both ended up enjoying them. I'm feeling the pangs of nostalgia.
I had the first two GB Castlevanias back in the day. I sold them both recently in their original boxes. Yeah, the first one is a short, very difficult straight ahead platformer. The second game is awesome. I would recommend holding off on this one and waiting for the second to hit the Handheld VC.
@24: I agree with you. COD games are almost a yearly release. That means, they know the shelf life on these games is pretty low. Last week, the 3DS sold 15,000 units worldwide...and the DS/DSi/XL sold 58,000 units. If I am the CEO of Activision, the decision is a no-brainer. The DS version (playable also on 3DS) would sell a lot more units and cost less to produce. Decision made. Get to coding.
I still have the cartridge version of this and my 7-year-old son loves it. In fact, I would say he likes it more than a lot of DS games. It's worth $4 imo.
The only one I'm really surprised to not see on the list is the second Fire Emblem remake that was released awhile back in Japan. The others I thought were going to be released. Maybe the Fire Emblem game will be announced later.
When I saw this announced awhile ago for Japan, I thought this might be one that Nintendo would localize in the "post-3DS" era. Glad to see Nintendo is still choosing to put out a few games for the old standby.
I have the original game and I would not suggest downloading this. My parents bought it for me when I was 12. It was okay then. Playing it now...not so much.
Great review. When I watched the trailer for this thing I predicted the score would be 4 or less. Looking at the DSiWare that has come out this year, I hope someone (i.e. WayForward or Nintendo) plans to release something good if they want me to keep spending my money on this platform. Seriously, this looks like a game I could have coded.
I think he said in the comments on Destructoid that the game would retail for $19.99 when it launches. That may also provide more incentive to those who are on the fence.
This was obviously the second part of the originally-planned retail game. Couldn't they have just released the whole thing for 1200 points? Oh well. I have yet to play the first but it is on my "to buy" list.
What is the ratio of shovelware to good games for retail DS releases? Or Wii releases? The fact is, there is a lot of shovelware across the board in the games industry. Downloadable platforms are no different, so I suggest accepting that fact and supporting the quality releases you want.
Looks good. I agree with shinesprite. Pop Island was good but there was an overall feeling of "what is the point?". Hopefully, this will have more of a story line or missions to complete.
I agree that this is not a surprise. The 3DS will be priced so high that Nintendo will continue to have a "budget" line for those who don't want to buy in at the high price.
I expect that games like Mario vs. Donkey Kong or Mega Man Star Force will continue to be released for a couple years. For all those that say the GBA got shovelware after the DS released, I think Nintendo published a total of 17 games on GBA after the DS, including LoZ: Minish Cap, Mario Tennis, Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones, WarioWare: Twisted, Drill Dozer and the Final Fantasy remakes.
However, there was a general 3rd party slowdown, with Atlus the biggest quality supporter of the GBA post-2004.
I'm about 2/3 of the way through the game and not going on to another area until I get all the feathers in the current area. It's a good amount of gameplay for $5. The control can get a little frustrating when the water drops come into play but otherwise no complaints.
@lOnE-WolF: I agree. I usually spend about 10 bucks a month in the DSi shop but I have skipped this month (and I think August too). I'm just not seeing anything good come out that is what I consider an actual game. The last games I got were Face Pilot and Flametail. I do think it will pick up again though toward the end of the year.
This does look interesting. However, I am increasingly dismayed with the "coming soon" and release lists for DSiWare being filled with notebooks, diaries, music apps, pen-and-paper and board games. When I want to do any of these things, I do not use my DSi. I bought my DSi for video games, not personal productivity, education, or tic-tac-toe. Thank you.
@EdEN: Absolutely. My living room is set up almost exactly that way, except with white walls. I have very light (i.e. pale) skin and have had no problems.
@arcnas: I would encourage you to buy Save the Turtles. It is a good value for the 500 points. However, this game looks interesting too and is on my buy list for DSiWare.
@theblackdragon: I agree with you about IGN. I'm not saying they always do a bad job, but their capsule reviews read more like "first impressions" than a full review. They are helpful, but having a full review is more helpful.
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Re: Watch the European 3DS Nintendo Direct Here
Sequel to Pushmo. Awesome! Bring it to NA!
Re: The Denpa Men are Coming to Your 3DS Next Week
I thoroughly enjoyed the demo. Maybe I will pick this up but other games also await my attention.
Re: Review: Tetris Axis (3DS)
Just picked this up at Best Buy for $9.99. Hopefully, it is good.
Re: Nintendo Download: 12th July 2012 (North America)
...and I will be getting Mighty Switch Force this week. I'm liking the sales.
Re: Review: Castlevania: The Adventure (3DS eShop / Game Boy)
@ajcismo: I agree with your assessment of the game. I got the game when I was 12 and had a similar experience. I would give it a 4 or 5.
Re: Nintendo Download: 5th July 2012 (North America)
...and I will be downloading Sakura Samurai today along with the Heroes of Ruin demo.
Re: June's Club Nintendo Rewards are Here
Probably picking up Donkey Kong as that is a game I missed in the past and is on my wishlist.
Re: Review: Mario Tennis Open (3DS)
For all those who deify the RPG mode in the GBA, let me remind you that the story was absolutely throwaway and you played only generic characters until the very end of the game. I enjoyed the GBA game but in no way do I consider it the super awesome definitive game of tennis that some make it out to be. I guess I would rather have less story and more exposure to playing against or as a Mario universe character.
Re: DSi and DSi XL Price Drops Announced for North America
I think this move makes all the sense in the world and would have made sense even six months ago.
Re: Talking Point: What New Super Mario Bros. 2 Means for 3DS and Nintendo
A few points:
1.) Nintendo is over-reliant on Mario, just like Disney was very reliant on Mickey Mouse and their franchise characters to drive people to their theme parks. This is empirically proven from both the number of games announced and the sales numbers that back them up. However, it makes good business sense, at least in the short term. We live in a capitalistic society so I don't see this as a problem.
2.) Those who are claiming that this game is "just more of the same" are basing that on exactly four screenshots. Can we wait until we see more of the game before passing judgment? In the meantime, go play some of the other 500 great games Nintendo has released.
3.) Mario is now ubiquitous in the way that Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Bugs Bunny, et. al became decades ago for past generations. All of my kids recognize Mario and Luigi, even if they are not yet old enough to play their games. Therefore, Nintendo will continue to capitalize on his popularity because they want to make money and introduce Mario games to the upcoming generation. Like the aforementioned characters, Mario will likely decrease in popularity as other iconic characters arise in pop culture. However, he will continue to be popular for a long while.
Those in their 30s (like me) who are complaining about the number of games attached to Mario need to realize that we are no longer the target demographic and that Nintendo is trying to reach the next generation.
Re: Feature: Bargain Bin DS Games
Good games I have gotten on DS for cheap (i.e.less than $10):
1. Soul Bubbles
2. Lock's Quest
3. Elebits: The Adventures of Kai and Zero
4. Retro Game Challenge
5. Elite Beat Agents
6. Henry Hatsworth and the Puzzling Adventure
Re: Epic Mickey on 3DS is a Castle of Illusion Sequel
This sounds great. I played both Land of Illusion and Castle of Illusion. My younger brother owned the games but we both ended up enjoying them. I'm feeling the pangs of nostalgia.
Re: Castlevania: The Adventure Whips Japan Next Week
I had the first two GB Castlevanias back in the day. I sold them both recently in their original boxes. Yeah, the first one is a short, very difficult straight ahead platformer. The second game is awesome. I would recommend holding off on this one and waiting for the second to hit the Handheld VC.
Re: Review: 101 Pinball World (DSiWare)
I'm seeing nothing but cheap garbage released on DSiWare anymore. I'm calling the platform dead.
Re: First Impressions: Mighty Switch Force
...one of the most polished eShop releases to date.
Beating out what? Let's Golf?
Re: Investors Urge Nintendo to Develop for Smartphones
Bad idea, Nintendo. Really bad idea.
Re: Not n-Space's Decision to Develop Modern Warfare 3 for DS
@24: I agree with you. COD games are almost a yearly release. That means, they know the shelf life on these games is pretty low. Last week, the 3DS sold 15,000 units worldwide...and the DS/DSi/XL sold 58,000 units. If I am the CEO of Activision, the decision is a no-brainer. The DS version (playable also on 3DS) would sell a lot more units and cost less to produce. Decision made. Get to coding.
Re: Review: Kirby's Dream Land (Game Boy)
I still have the cartridge version of this and my 7-year-old son loves it. In fact, I would say he likes it more than a lot of DS games. It's worth $4 imo.
Re: Here's Your List of DS Games Due Out This Year
The only one I'm really surprised to not see on the list is the second Fire Emblem remake that was released awhile back in Japan. The others I thought were going to be released. Maybe the Fire Emblem game will be announced later.
Re: The DS is About to Enter the Super Fossil Fighters Age
When I saw this announced awhile ago for Japan, I thought this might be one that Nintendo would localize in the "post-3DS" era. Glad to see Nintendo is still choosing to put out a few games for the old standby.
Re: Alleyway Bouncing to 3DS VC
I have the original game and I would not suggest downloading this. My parents bought it for me when I was 12. It was okay then. Playing it now...not so much.
Re: Review: GO Series: Picdun (DSiWare)
Wow. Eurogamer gave this a 4/10 (link below). I may have to check this out.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-27-download-games-roundup-review?page=3
Re: Kirby's New DS Game Has a July Date with Japan
I just got done playing through Kirby Canvas Curse and really enjoyed it. I hope this one shows up at E3!
Re: Review: Trollboarder (DSiWare)
The trailer for this game pretty much gave away its awfulness, but good review though.
Re: 99Bullets Trailer Pops In, Blows Up DSiWare
@BedCommando: Ditto as well, but I think this will likely be 500 points.
Re: Review: Panda Craze (DSiWare)
Great review. When I watched the trailer for this thing I predicted the score would be 4 or less. Looking at the DSiWare that has come out this year, I hope someone (i.e. WayForward or Nintendo) plans to release something good if they want me to keep spending my money on this platform. Seriously, this looks like a game I could have coded.
Re: Interviews: WayForward - Mighty Milky Way
Wow. I've got to admit that looks really nice. I'm interested.
Re: Renegade Kid's New DS Game is ATV Wild Ride
I think he said in the comments on Destructoid that the game would retail for $19.99 when it launches. That may also provide more incentive to those who are on the fence.
Re: Review: DodoGo! Challenge (DSiWare)
This was obviously the second part of the originally-planned retail game. Couldn't they have just released the whole thing for 1200 points? Oh well. I have yet to play the first but it is on my "to buy" list.
Re: Dive Into Lego Pirates of the Caribbean Next Year
I was hoping for Lego Lord of the Rings (perhaps when The Hobbit movie arrives?) but this is cool too.
Re: Review: Adventure In Vegas: Slot Machine (DSiWare)
What is the ratio of shovelware to good games for retail DS releases? Or Wii releases? The fact is, there is a lot of shovelware across the board in the games industry. Downloadable platforms are no different, so I suggest accepting that fact and supporting the quality releases you want.
Re: Get Strategic on DSiWare with Glory Days - Tactical Defense
Looks good. I agree with shinesprite. Pop Island was good but there was an overall feeling of "what is the point?". Hopefully, this will have more of a story line or missions to complete.
Re: Nintendo Download: 8th November 2010 (North America)
Yawn...
Re: DS to Have Life After 3DS, says Nintendo
I agree that this is not a surprise. The 3DS will be priced so high that Nintendo will continue to have a "budget" line for those who don't want to buy in at the high price.
I expect that games like Mario vs. Donkey Kong or Mega Man Star Force will continue to be released for a couple years. For all those that say the GBA got shovelware after the DS released, I think Nintendo published a total of 17 games on GBA after the DS, including LoZ: Minish Cap, Mario Tennis, Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones, WarioWare: Twisted, Drill Dozer and the Final Fantasy remakes.
However, there was a general 3rd party slowdown, with Atlus the biggest quality supporter of the GBA post-2004.
Re: Review: Music On: Playing Piano (DSiWare)
I've stopped caring about this series a long time ago. Abylight needs to stop rehashing and move on to something else.
Re: Review: Ivy the Kiwi? Mini (DSiWare)
I'm about 2/3 of the way through the game and not going on to another area until I get all the feathers in the current area. It's a good amount of gameplay for $5. The control can get a little frustrating when the water drops come into play but otherwise no complaints.
Re: Review: Pang: Magical Michael (DS)
I like Mitchell so I hope this comes to the States.
Re: Exclusive Sneak Peek at Shantae Fan Club Mailer
I absolutely beat the heck out of MFC, 'S' ranks on every level. Interested to see what the special prize is.
Re: North America Gets to Run for Ten Seconds in Five Days
@lOnE-WolF: I agree. I usually spend about 10 bucks a month in the DSi shop but I have skipped this month (and I think August too). I'm just not seeing anything good come out that is what I consider an actual game. The last games I got were Face Pilot and Flametail. I do think it will pick up again though toward the end of the year.
Re: Strum Along with Music On: Acoustic Guitar Next Week
This does look interesting. However, I am increasingly dismayed with the "coming soon" and release lists for DSiWare being filled with notebooks, diaries, music apps, pen-and-paper and board games. When I want to do any of these things, I do not use my DSi. I bought my DSi for video games, not personal productivity, education, or tic-tac-toe. Thank you.
Re: Face Pilot: Fly With Your Nintendo DSi Camera!
This is definitely worth the 500 points. Actually kind of relaxing.
Re: Review: Absolute Brickbuster (DSiWare)
The tagline could also have been "An Absolute Bust."
Re: Review: A Topsy Turvy Life: Turvy Drops (DSiWare)
"It all feels a bit unpolished and underdeveloped, but in a budget game like Turvy Drops, we don't expect much more."
Disagree, I do expect more (see Spotto! and Aura-Aura Climber).
Re: Review: Looksley's Line Up (DSiWare)
I agree, jdarrell. I think a dimmer screen helps with the camera issues. I use two as well.
Re: Review: Looksley's Line Up (DSiWare)
@EdEN: Absolutely. My living room is set up almost exactly that way, except with white walls. I have very light (i.e. pale) skin and have had no problems.
Re: Review: DodoGo! (DSiWare)
@arcnas: I would encourage you to buy Save the Turtles. It is a good value for the 500 points. However, this game looks interesting too and is on my buy list for DSiWare.
Re: Review: Earthworm Jim (DSiWare)
I though UbiSoft did the port of Rayman since they originally developed it.
Re: Review: Don't Feed the Animals (DSiWare)
I wrote this one off based on the screenshots. Atrocious!
Re: Review: Super Yum Yum: Puzzle Adventures (DSiWare)
This game seems really lacking for an 800 point release. Pass.
Re: Review: 101 Minigolf World (DSiWare)
@theblackdragon: I agree with you about IGN. I'm not saying they always do a bad job, but their capsule reviews read more like "first impressions" than a full review. They are helpful, but having a full review is more helpful.