@NintendoWife I think the criticism isn't the NPC themselves per-se, its the games insistence that you go back to them for really stupid time wasting reasons. The dialog is crappy but its a tiny part of it. The issue is the requirement to go back to him time after time and the hand holding that they do a bit too often.
Cut out the open world desert, make the game areas properly linked and with interesting connection requirements/skills and cut out the stupid "return to base" mechanic and it would be a great metroid game.
@KevinP Unfortunately I think that everyone over the past nearly 10 years now has realised that rehashing old games is cheap and easy compared to making new ones and is a brilliant way to print money. This is the generation of the remake, the remaster, the re-release. The Switch is responsible for a fair bit of that IMO. There have always been a smattering of these every generation but it feels like every second release of note on the Switch was just redoing an old game.
It suited the console but when the two paths to good profit margins are generally remakes/remasters and microtransaction laden *****, we can't be surprised when thats what we get a lot of.
@KevinP They've been riding that train real hard since the first switch and it was wildly successful. I agree that they need to sort out their first party offering but whether that will happen...
@hcfwesker Yep, a masterpiece of game design. I always thought to myself in the old games "man, I wish I didn't get this upgrade here, I wish I had to backtrack to a pointless area miles away across a desert, watch 3-4 load screens and waste 10-15 minutes of my time before I can continue with the game".
I'm just amazed that some people think the criticism of the game is completely unmerited.
@the_beaver What a strange outlook. You hope we don't get more metroid games because plenty of people don't think metroid 4 is good...
The first 3d prime is easily one of my favourite games ever and dread was great. This was simply not a good metroid game in my mind. If you liked it, cool. I didn't.
@Powerballad Thats because its not very good. It would be a decent game if they removed the crappy desert area, the bike and the requirement to go back to base to get upgrades for certain things. As it is, it wasted a huge amount of your time. Takes you out of the game and its massively linear. Only really feels like a metroid game in name.
@JohnnyMind I think the issue is that the entire difficulty of the game is baked in up to a point. Games that have difficulty setting don't usually have so many different challenges that cannot realistically just be hand waved away.
The main ones that come to mind are the parcour sections. I would still have taken a long time to do some of them even if I didn't die repeatedly. Someone who was even less skilled might still hit that roadblock of simply being unable to complete sections despite not being limited by dying.
@Powerballad The store isn't even loading for me now. Its getting worse, not better! On the plus side, the three people that have managed to buy it should be getting good download speeds if that isn't broken as well.
@Mariotag Does seem to be crashing. There is a Silksong item in the highlights tab but you click and hear some music but nothing loads and then it crashes you out of the eshop.
Come on Nintendo, this isn't some pony game like Donkey Kong Bananza. This is Silksong. Surely you have prepared for the flood of people wanting to buy this AAAAAA game.
@JakedaArbok I'm just not sure it looks that good honestly. Really disappointed if this truly is the replacement for a proper 3D mario game in the vein of Odyssey. Maybe it will be excellent but it doesn't look great from what I have seen.
You innovate when you are ready to. You also don't try to change a winning formula unless you have something you think is better. I mean, what were people expecting?
@liljmoore remasters, ports and indie games have been the bulk of this generation. We can thank Nintendo and the Switch for showing all the other games companies that the easiest way to print money is just to take old IPs and re-release them for their current consoles as well.
My shock is immeasurable. The company that have printed money for the last 6 years by milking ports, indie games and barely releasing any "mainline" games for their biggest IPs is still coasting. BotW was a Wii U game that was never meant for the Switch. We've had a single main mario game in the first year. MP4 is still god knows how far off. We are only just getting the consoles first true Zelda game. Most of the best games for the console are old games and ports outside a few titles.
Then again they are making billions and people will defend Nintendo to the hilt so why would they do any differently. MK8 is peak Nintendo. Selling a 9 year old game for full price then charging for DLC.
I'm sure it will be good but its been 6 bloody years in the making and they are reusing the engine and world from the original. The original was one of my favourite games ever but Nintendo have exhausted all my good will over the past 6 years. Where is the sequel to Mario Odyssey, where is MK9?
I feel like Nintendo just constantly take the piss with their customers and most people lap it up.
This is Nintendo people. Do you really think that they have done something remotely forward thinking like this. It will be based purely on costs and availability. We've literally just got BT audio after 4 years and the online is still about 10 years out of date.
I'm not sure how well DK transfers to 3D but if it had the Mario team on it then I would have high hopes. Tropical Freeze is a masterpiece so I would be more than happy to have another pseudo-3D outing like that.
Because everything has to be "normalised" these days. God knows why. If you find a game too hard, who cares, if you don't like a game, who cares, if you haven't got time to finish a game who cares.
We don't need someone patting us on the head and saying "its OK" every time we do or don't do something. We don't "need to talk" about everything that someone struggles with or doesn't like. We don't need every game to portray every gender, race etc in a way that speaks to our own complex experiences.
Games should be fun, challenging, relaxing, frustrating, hard, easy and everything else. Thats the beauty of games. You don't have to like them, you don't have to play them, you don't have to relate to them. There are so many of them that regardless of what you enjoy you will find games for you.
My partner likes the most mind numbing mobile games that hold 0 appeal for me but its her way to switch off after a hard day at work. She doesn't want involved or story. She wants to swipe on her phone screen a bit and the points to go up.
They aren't really investments in a lot of cases though. What has Nintendo given us?
Tropical Freeze - adding Funky Kong and nothing else MK8 deluxe - bundled all the DLC... and nothing else Mario Bros U - 99% the same 3d Mario collection - all the same, warts and all Bayonetta - like for like
Its not like they are pouring love and effort into updating these games or even giving them QoL updates in most cases. They are just lazy cash grabs.
Thing is, it works so why would they bother with doing much more. People complain and then lap these up because they haven't got many other options.
@TheUltimateFaker I don't think people mind about ports at all. I would be happy for them to port all their classic games to the Switch. What I really hate is lazy ports that are almost 0 effort and have been surpassed by the community years ago and then charging full price or near full price for them.
Skyward sword is a prime example. Unless they are charging £20 or less for it they are taking the piss.
@Letzg077 I mean that is great but I can't think of too many cases where that has actually happened. Think about how many people have bought second or maybe third sets of joycons at this point. Thing of all the people that will not find out about this even if Nintendo is forced to rectify it.
Unless Nintendo (or any other company doing this sort of thing) is hit seriously hard in the wallet there is 0 incentive to change or be better. Nintendo have sold over 70m units and probably half as many extra joycons as well.
What really irks me is that Nintendo are basically ignoring the issue wherever they can which is just straight up scummy. Tells you everything about the company.
This is literally a "what if Nintendo actually cared about their customers" parallel universe Direct leak. I literally read the list of games and thought, "based on Nintendos past 2 years of output, this is about a decade worth of quality that is supposed to be coming out in the next year". Not a popsicle.
Honestly, to get good at the game in an efficient manner I think that save scumming helps a lot. I ended up playing a lot on custom game mode so I could limit the RNG of the weapon drops and focus more on the game and getting better at learning the different enemies moves without being shunted back to the very start after a mistake.
I'm massively average at the game but playing on custom modes was a lot of fun and generally adjusting the difficulty helps a lot.
@tanaka2687 In much the same way that giving someone some free crack is OK in the hope that you get them addicted. Almost every mobile game is free now because they know that the best way to make money is getting people addicted to a game and then offering them little incentives constantly to get ahead.
Please understand that we do want all of your money but we want it to come from another source. Nintendo are just careful about their image to the average consumer. Parents still see Nintendo as the more child friendly company compared to Sony and MS and I think they want to keep that. It explains some of their more shitty choices when it comes to features adults want but perhaps parents don't want for their kids. Good game chat for example
They aren't because lets be honest, most people just think "thats a **** service but I need it" or "thats a **** service I don't" and they either buy it or they don't.
You clearly think its a good service and value for money and I don't. I doubt either is going to change their mind so we should probably just leave it at that.
Do you think that the majority of Nintendo fans like the online?
Do you think the majority of Nintendo fans think this is better than the VC on Wii U?
Do you think that Nintendo are doing this because they think its the best value for people wanting online play?
I don't know how anyone can genuinely think Nintendo have structured the online service the way they have for the fans benefit. I don't know if all the people I have spoken to just happen to be of the same opinion but no one I know has bought it for any reason other than to play online and have their saves backed up.
Tell me I have to punch myself in the face every morning at work or I will be fired and I will do it. That doesn't mean that you can assume that I like doing simply because I take part in the act every day. Nintendo have people over a barrel with their online service.
It is personal what value you get from the service but when you create a service that you know most of your customers will not appreciate I find it hard to muster anything but contempt for the company that does it. They have put online play and save backup behind a paywall. Something that we have had for free because it costs them the square route of FA to provide.
Do you know what, I would probably accept it more if they were simply honest and made the service £10 and gave us nothing but save backups. The NES roms are almost worthless and cost them nothing. They are tacking them on as something to point at and say "there is your value".
To put it another way, how many people here would pay £18/year for the current system vs a few £'s a year simply for cloud backup. I think the answer to this question will tell you what sort of value Nintendo is giving with the NES games.
Why not throw in a load of pictures of mario valued at £2 each as well! I don't know anyone who actually plays any of these games (yes I am sure there are some) so you can tell me that there are 30 games with a £5-6 value but when almost nobody would buy them at all then that value is precisely £0 to us.
There is a reason most people aren't happy with Nintendo online and its because its borderline insulting. They are tagging on crap games that the vast majority of people don't want so that they (and people like you) can claim that its good value. If you want good value look at Sonys offering. Actual properly conceived online, good discounts on games, proper friends system, chat system etc. All for about ~£35/year.
Most of us are paying £18/year for online backups and the privilege of P2P communication between consoles we have paid for. Please stop trying to convince us this is value for money and not Nintendo being ****.
Its a combination of a lack of top first party games on the switch and the ability to pick up and play stuff for 20 minutes without waiting for a console to boot etc.
I had a load of the same indie games on PS4 and never touched them because I had so many triple A games to play and I could never convince myself to boot up the console to play a little indie game that might not hold my attention.
I can just grab the switch, go to another room and play hollow knight for 30 minutes really easily. My PS4 felt like I had to sit down for a "session".
Let be honest though, if we had all the top games from other platforms on the switch indies wouldn't be doing anywhere near as well. For a while there you were looking at mainly ports from the Wii U and a couple of big games and that was it. Indies have filled a huge gap in the Switch catalogue.
I'm just amazed they have found a spare moment to even think about adding anything to nintendo online. They must be so busy pushing out 3 NES games a month and improving the stability of the system constantly.
I genuinely wonder what half their staff do with their time. Nintendo online would have been **** if it was released when the console was launched let alone after having 18 months to work on it.
Its not the money they charge for online, it's their unwillingness to give customers even basic features that any system should have in 2018. I can get PSN for twice the cost of Nintendo online and I get 10x more value.
If I don't want to spend that I still get a console that does way way more than the Switch for less money. If you think Nintendo give people value for money compared to PS and MS you are massively deluded.
I love Nintendo games but they offer the least value in their consoles out of the big three by miles. Without the handheld, always-on aspect of the Switch it would be doing very poorly.
You are suggesting that its OK for Nintendo to be missing basic features because the console has only been out 20 months. Thats BS. The PS4 was released 5 years ago and was better than the Switch OS wise even then.
There is a slight difference between "why can't I change my username" and "why can't I talk to my friends easily or backup the games I have sunk hundreds of hours into". If you can't admit that you're just being obtuse.
Everyone has features they would like but Nintendo repeatedly gives us the bare minimum while they sit on their hands trying to figure out how to wring every last penny out of their customers.
That kind of implies that they had 2 decisions to make with merit to both sides of the decision.
"Should we give people cloud saves for a portable console"
"Should we have a proper friends and chat system"
I have no idea how either of these things managed to be a decision that they went with for any reason other than. Nah, lets see how it goes and save the money.
I assume that when the PS5 is released in a few years it will be OK when PSN doesn't have proper voice chat, friend management etc. "Its early days guys".
No, thats not how anything works. The service offered on the Wii U was better. Its 2018 and you cannot get away with offering the **** that Nintendo does with their OS. Its nothing to do with learning. They have chosen to design their online like this because they either don't care or don't want to spend the money. Its a joke that it took 18 months to give us cloud saves. Yes, cloud saves. Something that is simple to implement and should be day one on any modern console.
How people can defend Nintendo like they are some garage company with 3 employees is beyond me. They are multi multi billion dollar company with access to the best programming talent in the world. Please don't try and tell me this is due to technical implementation issues or limitations.
@JDORS Exactly, they aren't being different for any other reason than laziness.
Everyone loved the fact that they didn't have cloud saves, voice chat and proper friend management on the switch. I mean, who wants basic features like that when you can wait a year and a half for a **** set of NES games to play.
Nintendo are different in their games and their console, they are simply ******* lazy when it comes to developing them or giving their loyal customers even basic OS features.
This is coming from using sites like hotukdeals for years. At least 5-6 times a year there is somewhere selling 12 months of PS+ for ~£35. I had a playstation for 2 years and never paid any more than that. Its like buying a sofa. You never pay RRP unless you are a complete idiot.
The problem I have with your explanation that its their "first paid online anything" is that its kind of irrelevant. They are charging us for almost nothing. Cloud saves are something that shouldn't even be a question in 2018. Their VC is simply reused from past console. Their store/VC was 10x better on their last generation console.
I'm not debating that its cheap but what annoys me is that Nintendo are very clearly and cynically working out how to extract the most money from its customers while delivering the bare minimum in return.
They are insanely wealthy and its taken them 18 months to give us cloud saves and a **** VC. They have released a tiny set of first party games that aren't ports and when they do release a port its more expensive than it was originally.
They created a great console and since then they have done the square route of **** all to make it successful. You can thank all the third party developers and indie devs for its success.
Thats because its entirely your choice as to whether you spend money on these games and their IAPs. I have played clash of clans and clash royale a lot and there is 0 requirement to spend money. You can enjoy both games just as much by not spending a penny.
What nintendo have done with their online however is just a [removed] move. Give us super basic but free online for a year and a half and then suddenly start charging for a service that isn't even 1/10 as good as the competition from Sony or MS. Want to play those games you have been playing online for free? Pay us money.
A game is a game. You can choose to buy it or not. An online service that keeps most online games from you as well as cloud saves is poor form. If you want to charge people for a service at least make it vague value for money. Look at what PSN gives you for £35/year. Good games every month, discounts on loads of games, good online, proper chat features etc etc.
@Ralek85 You are correct that in this case the exploit is to do with the hardware architecture and if the "hackers" are correct its un-patchable. Nintendo have released very little in the way of functionality improvements to their OS and updates have consistently been dealing with locking down the OS from a security standpoint.
Piracy and hacking tend to go hand in hand I'm afraid. You are right in saying that the drive to hack is quite often not driven by malicious intent but the desire to test yourself and get more from a product however the people that use the hacks are rarely doing it for benign reasons. If you look at all of the "hacking" that anonymous and their ILK were on the news for in the last few years, people were being called hackers for clicking a mouse a few times. They simply utilised the tools others had developed to accomplish their goals. Its the same with Piracy. Just because you open up a system because you enjoy the challenge doesn't mean that piracy won't piggyback off that massively.
@roadrunner343 I think we would all be happy with that too but allowing people access to their game save data would almost certainly lead to save data manipulation. I don't have a problem with not having direct access to my saves but for them to be this fragile is not good.
@roadrunner343 OK, thats probably a little harsh to say I don't care if Nintendo are the victim of piracy because they are not delivering must have features but the system has been out for over a year now. There is not a chance in hell they are struggling with developing a cloud save system. There are some things that I'm just astounded are not available yet and that is a big one.
They are sitting on it to launch it with their paid for online system they launch later this year. I have no issue with a company protecting their profit generation but cloud saves should have been day 1 not a year and a half after launch.
@kobashi100 I never said that. Its a simple example of how other industries who struggled with piracy found a solution. Ask any Switch owner if they want to be able to back up their saves though...
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Re: Opinion: Metroid Prime 4 Does This One Thing Better Than Any Other Nintendo Game
@NintendoWife I think the criticism isn't the NPC themselves per-se, its the games insistence that you go back to them for really stupid time wasting reasons. The dialog is crappy but its a tiny part of it. The issue is the requirement to go back to him time after time and the hand holding that they do a bit too often.
Cut out the open world desert, make the game areas properly linked and with interesting connection requirements/skills and cut out the stupid "return to base" mechanic and it would be a great metroid game.
Re: Nintendo's Investors Are Reportedly "Spooked" As Stock Slides
@KevinP Unfortunately I think that everyone over the past nearly 10 years now has realised that rehashing old games is cheap and easy compared to making new ones and is a brilliant way to print money. This is the generation of the remake, the remaster, the re-release. The Switch is responsible for a fair bit of that IMO. There have always been a smattering of these every generation but it feels like every second release of note on the Switch was just redoing an old game.
It suited the console but when the two paths to good profit margins are generally remakes/remasters and microtransaction laden *****, we can't be surprised when thats what we get a lot of.
Re: Nintendo's Investors Are Reportedly "Spooked" As Stock Slides
@KevinP They've been riding that train real hard since the first switch and it was wildly successful. I agree that they need to sort out their first party offering but whether that will happen...
Re: UK Charts: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond Clings To The Top 40
@hcfwesker Yep, a masterpiece of game design. I always thought to myself in the old games "man, I wish I didn't get this upgrade here, I wish I had to backtrack to a pointless area miles away across a desert, watch 3-4 load screens and waste 10-15 minutes of my time before I can continue with the game".
I'm just amazed that some people think the criticism of the game is completely unmerited.
Re: UK Charts: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond Clings To The Top 40
@the_beaver What a strange outlook. You hope we don't get more metroid games because plenty of people don't think metroid 4 is good...
The first 3d prime is easily one of my favourite games ever and dread was great. This was simply not a good metroid game in my mind. If you liked it, cool. I didn't.
Re: UK Charts: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond Clings To The Top 40
@Powerballad Thats because its not very good. It would be a decent game if they removed the crappy desert area, the bike and the requirement to go back to base to get upgrades for certain things. As it is, it wasted a huge amount of your time. Takes you out of the game and its massively linear. Only really feels like a metroid game in name.
Re: Opinion: Why Focus On Silksong's Difficulty When We Need To Talk About How Cute It is?
@JohnnyMind I think the issue is that the entire difficulty of the game is baked in up to a point. Games that have difficulty setting don't usually have so many different challenges that cannot realistically just be hand waved away.
The main ones that come to mind are the parcour sections. I would still have taken a long time to do some of them even if I didn't die repeatedly. Someone who was even less skilled might still hit that roadblock of simply being unable to complete sections despite not being limited by dying.
Re: Reminder: Here's When Hollow Knight: Silksong Releases In Your Time Zone
We have liftoff. Downloading now. Should be done in about 2 minutes. Exciting stuff!
Re: Reminder: Here's When Hollow Knight: Silksong Releases In Your Time Zone
@Powerballad The store isn't even loading for me now. Its getting worse, not better! On the plus side, the three people that have managed to buy it should be getting good download speeds if that isn't broken as well.
Re: Reminder: Here's When Hollow Knight: Silksong Releases In Your Time Zone
@JumpingJackson I will not settle down. If anything I shall become more belligerent as my displeasure intensifies!
Re: Reminder: Here's When Hollow Knight: Silksong Releases In Your Time Zone
@Mariotag Does seem to be crashing. There is a Silksong item in the highlights tab but you click and hear some music but nothing loads and then it crashes you out of the eshop.
Re: Reminder: Here's When Hollow Knight: Silksong Releases In Your Time Zone
Come on Nintendo, this isn't some pony game like Donkey Kong Bananza. This is Silksong. Surely you have prepared for the flood of people wanting to buy this AAAAAA game.
Re: Mario Kart World For Switch 2 Tops Famitsu's "Most Wanted" Games List
@JakedaArbok I'm just not sure it looks that good honestly. Really disappointed if this truly is the replacement for a proper 3D mario game in the vein of Odyssey. Maybe it will be excellent but it doesn't look great from what I have seen.
Re: Nintendo Defends Switch 2's Perceived Lack Of Innovation
You innovate when you are ready to. You also don't try to change a winning formula unless you have something you think is better. I mean, what were people expecting?
Re: Nintendo Direct June 2024: Time, Where To Watch, What To Expect
@anoyonmus They are pretty good at disappointing even with low expectations. I'm almost impressed to be honest.
Re: Nintendo Switch "Successor" Announcement Is Coming "This Fiscal Year"
@liljmoore remasters, ports and indie games have been the bulk of this generation. We can thank Nintendo and the Switch for showing all the other games companies that the easiest way to print money is just to take old IPs and re-release them for their current consoles as well.
Give me MK9 you ********.
Re: Nintendo Reconfirms Release Windows For Upcoming Switch Games, And It's Slim Pickings
My shock is immeasurable. The company that have printed money for the last 6 years by milking ports, indie games and barely releasing any "mainline" games for their biggest IPs is still coasting. BotW was a Wii U game that was never meant for the Switch. We've had a single main mario game in the first year. MP4 is still god knows how far off. We are only just getting the consoles first true Zelda game. Most of the best games for the console are old games and ports outside a few titles.
Then again they are making billions and people will defend Nintendo to the hilt so why would they do any differently. MK8 is peak Nintendo. Selling a 9 year old game for full price then charging for DLC.
Re: Poll: What Are Your Hype Levels for Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom?
I'm sure it will be good but its been 6 bloody years in the making and they are reusing the engine and world from the original. The original was one of my favourite games ever but Nintendo have exhausted all my good will over the past 6 years. Where is the sequel to Mario Odyssey, where is MK9?
I feel like Nintendo just constantly take the piss with their customers and most people lap it up.
Re: Report Claims FIFA Wants EA To Cough Up "More Than Double" For Licence
I just hope they both lose somehow.
Re: Teardown Suggests The Switch OLED Dock Is 4K 60fps-Ready And 'Future Proof'
This is Nintendo people. Do you really think that they have done something remotely forward thinking like this. It will be based purely on costs and availability. We've literally just got BT audio after 4 years and the online is still about 10 years out of date.
Re: Rumour: The Next Donkey Kong Is Being Developed By The Super Mario Odyssey Team
I'm not sure how well DK transfers to 3D but if it had the Mario team on it then I would have high hopes. Tropical Freeze is a masterpiece so I would be more than happy to have another pseudo-3D outing like that.
Re: Soapbox: It's Time To Normalise Giving Up On Games Early
@Willmercade
Because everything has to be "normalised" these days. God knows why. If you find a game too hard, who cares, if you don't like a game, who cares, if you haven't got time to finish a game who cares.
We don't need someone patting us on the head and saying "its OK" every time we do or don't do something. We don't "need to talk" about everything that someone struggles with or doesn't like. We don't need every game to portray every gender, race etc in a way that speaks to our own complex experiences.
Games should be fun, challenging, relaxing, frustrating, hard, easy and everything else. Thats the beauty of games. You don't have to like them, you don't have to play them, you don't have to relate to them. There are so many of them that regardless of what you enjoy you will find games for you.
My partner likes the most mind numbing mobile games that hold 0 appeal for me but its her way to switch off after a hard day at work. She doesn't want involved or story. She wants to swipe on her phone screen a bit and the points to go up.
Re: Soapbox: I'm Tired Of Ports And Remakes - Where Are All Nintendo's New Ideas?
@FX102A
They aren't really investments in a lot of cases though. What has Nintendo given us?
Tropical Freeze - adding Funky Kong and nothing else
MK8 deluxe - bundled all the DLC... and nothing else
Mario Bros U - 99% the same
3d Mario collection - all the same, warts and all
Bayonetta - like for like
Its not like they are pouring love and effort into updating these games or even giving them QoL updates in most cases. They are just lazy cash grabs.
Thing is, it works so why would they bother with doing much more. People complain and then lap these up because they haven't got many other options.
Re: Rumour: Zelda's 35th Anniversary Will See The Return Of Wind Waker And Twilight Princess
@TheUltimateFaker I don't think people mind about ports at all. I would be happy for them to port all their classic games to the Switch. What I really hate is lazy ports that are almost 0 effort and have been surpassed by the community years ago and then charging full price or near full price for them.
Skyward sword is a prime example. Unless they are charging £20 or less for it they are taking the piss.
Re: EU Calls For Investigation Into Switch Joy-Con Drift Following More Than 25,000 Complaints
@Letzg077 I mean that is great but I can't think of too many cases where that has actually happened. Think about how many people have bought second or maybe third sets of joycons at this point. Thing of all the people that will not find out about this even if Nintendo is forced to rectify it.
Unless Nintendo (or any other company doing this sort of thing) is hit seriously hard in the wallet there is 0 incentive to change or be better. Nintendo have sold over 70m units and probably half as many extra joycons as well.
What really irks me is that Nintendo are basically ignoring the issue wherever they can which is just straight up scummy. Tells you everything about the company.
Re: Random: Fake Nintendo Direct Leak "Reveals" The Name Of Breath Of The Wild 2
This is literally a "what if Nintendo actually cared about their customers" parallel universe Direct leak. I literally read the list of games and thought, "based on Nintendos past 2 years of output, this is about a decade worth of quality that is supposed to be coming out in the next year". Not a popsicle.
Re: Dead Cells' Bestiary Update Comes To Consoles Next Month, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@PlayedNSlayed
Honestly, to get good at the game in an efficient manner I think that save scumming helps a lot. I ended up playing a lot on custom game mode so I could limit the RNG of the weapon drops and focus more on the game and getting better at learning the different enemies moves without being shunted back to the very start after a mistake.
I'm massively average at the game but playing on custom modes was a lot of fun and generally adjusting the difficulty helps a lot.
Re: Mario Kart Tour Adds Classic Mario And Luigi And A Remixed Version Of Mario Circuit
@tanaka2687 In much the same way that giving someone some free crack is OK in the hope that you get them addicted. Almost every mobile game is free now because they know that the best way to make money is getting people addicted to a game and then offering them little incentives constantly to get ahead.
Re: Deals: Amazon UK Gets Into The Black Friday Spirit With Tasty Nintendo Switch Game Bundles
To summarise: 1 good game and one poo one or 2 poo games. Take your pick.
Re: Nintendo Switch SNES Controllers Are Back In Stock In "Limited Quantities" (Europe)
Just managed to order 2. Go go go!
Re: Report Suggests Nintendo Doesn't Want To Overdo Mobile Microtransactions
@Kalmaro
Please understand that we do want all of your money but we want it to come from another source. Nintendo are just careful about their image to the average consumer. Parents still see Nintendo as the more child friendly company compared to Sony and MS and I think they want to keep that. It explains some of their more shitty choices when it comes to features adults want but perhaps parents don't want for their kids. Good game chat for example
Re: Video: Bloodstained: Ritual Of The Night Launch Trailer Shows Off Shovel Knight Collab
@rex_rex
You're a wrong 'un
Re: Reminder: Three New NES Games Hit Switch Today, Plus SP Versions Of Metroid And Dr. Mario
They aren't because lets be honest, most people just think "thats a **** service but I need it" or "thats a **** service I don't" and they either buy it or they don't.
You clearly think its a good service and value for money and I don't. I doubt either is going to change their mind so we should probably just leave it at that.
Re: Reminder: Three New NES Games Hit Switch Today, Plus SP Versions Of Metroid And Dr. Mario
@johnvboy
Do you think that the majority of Nintendo fans like the online?
Do you think the majority of Nintendo fans think this is better than the VC on Wii U?
Do you think that Nintendo are doing this because they think its the best value for people wanting online play?
I don't know how anyone can genuinely think Nintendo have structured the online service the way they have for the fans benefit. I don't know if all the people I have spoken to just happen to be of the same opinion but no one I know has bought it for any reason other than to play online and have their saves backed up.
Tell me I have to punch myself in the face every morning at work or I will be fired and I will do it. That doesn't mean that you can assume that I like doing simply because I take part in the act every day. Nintendo have people over a barrel with their online service.
Re: Reminder: Three New NES Games Hit Switch Today, Plus SP Versions Of Metroid And Dr. Mario
@johnvboy
It is personal what value you get from the service but when you create a service that you know most of your customers will not appreciate I find it hard to muster anything but contempt for the company that does it. They have put online play and save backup behind a paywall. Something that we have had for free because it costs them the square route of FA to provide.
Do you know what, I would probably accept it more if they were simply honest and made the service £10 and gave us nothing but save backups. The NES roms are almost worthless and cost them nothing. They are tacking them on as something to point at and say "there is your value".
To put it another way, how many people here would pay £18/year for the current system vs a few £'s a year simply for cloud backup. I think the answer to this question will tell you what sort of value Nintendo is giving with the NES games.
Re: Reminder: Three New NES Games Hit Switch Today, Plus SP Versions Of Metroid And Dr. Mario
@johnvboy
Why not throw in a load of pictures of mario valued at £2 each as well! I don't know anyone who actually plays any of these games (yes I am sure there are some) so you can tell me that there are 30 games with a £5-6 value but when almost nobody would buy them at all then that value is precisely £0 to us.
There is a reason most people aren't happy with Nintendo online and its because its borderline insulting. They are tagging on crap games that the vast majority of people don't want so that they (and people like you) can claim that its good value. If you want good value look at Sonys offering. Actual properly conceived online, good discounts on games, proper friends system, chat system etc. All for about ~£35/year.
Most of us are paying £18/year for online backups and the privilege of P2P communication between consoles we have paid for. Please stop trying to convince us this is value for money and not Nintendo being ****.
Re: The Switch eShop Finally Adds Search Filters For Genre, Price Range And More
Perhaps give us a rating system and then allow us to filter out the **** that comprises 95% of the e-shop.
Re: Indie Devs Explain Why Their Games Are Successful On Nintendo Switch
Its a combination of a lack of top first party games on the switch and the ability to pick up and play stuff for 20 minutes without waiting for a console to boot etc.
I had a load of the same indie games on PS4 and never touched them because I had so many triple A games to play and I could never convince myself to boot up the console to play a little indie game that might not hold my attention.
I can just grab the switch, go to another room and play hollow knight for 30 minutes really easily. My PS4 felt like I had to sit down for a "session".
Let be honest though, if we had all the top games from other platforms on the switch indies wouldn't be doing anywhere near as well. For a while there you were looking at mainly ports from the Wii U and a couple of big games and that was it. Indies have filled a huge gap in the Switch catalogue.
Re: Nintendo Switch Online Service Had A "Good" Launch, Focus Will Now Shift To Boosting Its Appeal
I'm just amazed they have found a spare moment to even think about adding anything to nintendo online. They must be so busy pushing out 3 NES games a month and improving the stability of the system constantly.
I genuinely wonder what half their staff do with their time. Nintendo online would have been **** if it was released when the console was launched let alone after having 18 months to work on it.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Has Stumbled With Switch Online, But It Can Learn From Its Mistakes
@gortsi
Its not the money they charge for online, it's their unwillingness to give customers even basic features that any system should have in 2018. I can get PSN for twice the cost of Nintendo online and I get 10x more value.
If I don't want to spend that I still get a console that does way way more than the Switch for less money. If you think Nintendo give people value for money compared to PS and MS you are massively deluded.
I love Nintendo games but they offer the least value in their consoles out of the big three by miles. Without the handheld, always-on aspect of the Switch it would be doing very poorly.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Has Stumbled With Switch Online, But It Can Learn From Its Mistakes
@gortsi
You are suggesting that its OK for Nintendo to be missing basic features because the console has only been out 20 months. Thats BS. The PS4 was released 5 years ago and was better than the Switch OS wise even then.
There is a slight difference between "why can't I change my username" and "why can't I talk to my friends easily or backup the games I have sunk hundreds of hours into". If you can't admit that you're just being obtuse.
Everyone has features they would like but Nintendo repeatedly gives us the bare minimum while they sit on their hands trying to figure out how to wring every last penny out of their customers.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Has Stumbled With Switch Online, But It Can Learn From Its Mistakes
@Kalmaro
That kind of implies that they had 2 decisions to make with merit to both sides of the decision.
"Should we give people cloud saves for a portable console"
"Should we have a proper friends and chat system"
I have no idea how either of these things managed to be a decision that they went with for any reason other than. Nah, lets see how it goes and save the money.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Has Stumbled With Switch Online, But It Can Learn From Its Mistakes
@gortsi
I assume that when the PS5 is released in a few years it will be OK when PSN doesn't have proper voice chat, friend management etc. "Its early days guys".
No, thats not how anything works. The service offered on the Wii U was better. Its 2018 and you cannot get away with offering the **** that Nintendo does with their OS. Its nothing to do with learning. They have chosen to design their online like this because they either don't care or don't want to spend the money. Its a joke that it took 18 months to give us cloud saves. Yes, cloud saves. Something that is simple to implement and should be day one on any modern console.
How people can defend Nintendo like they are some garage company with 3 employees is beyond me. They are multi multi billion dollar company with access to the best programming talent in the world. Please don't try and tell me this is due to technical implementation issues or limitations.
Re: Nintendo's Reggie Fils-Aimé On Why The Switch Uses A Mobile App For Voice Chat
@JDORS
Exactly, they aren't being different for any other reason than laziness.
Everyone loved the fact that they didn't have cloud saves, voice chat and proper friend management on the switch. I mean, who wants basic features like that when you can wait a year and a half for a **** set of NES games to play.
Nintendo are different in their games and their console, they are simply ******* lazy when it comes to developing them or giving their loyal customers even basic OS features.
Re: Pokémon GO Players Have Apparently Spent $2 Billion To Catch 'Em All
@DanteSolablood
This is coming from using sites like hotukdeals for years. At least 5-6 times a year there is somewhere selling 12 months of PS+ for ~£35. I had a playstation for 2 years and never paid any more than that. Its like buying a sofa. You never pay RRP unless you are a complete idiot.
The problem I have with your explanation that its their "first paid online anything" is that its kind of irrelevant. They are charging us for almost nothing. Cloud saves are something that shouldn't even be a question in 2018. Their VC is simply reused from past console. Their store/VC was 10x better on their last generation console.
I'm not debating that its cheap but what annoys me is that Nintendo are very clearly and cynically working out how to extract the most money from its customers while delivering the bare minimum in return.
They are insanely wealthy and its taken them 18 months to give us cloud saves and a **** VC. They have released a tiny set of first party games that aren't ports and when they do release a port its more expensive than it was originally.
They created a great console and since then they have done the square route of **** all to make it successful. You can thank all the third party developers and indie devs for its success.
Re: Pokémon GO Players Have Apparently Spent $2 Billion To Catch 'Em All
@Heavyarms55
Thats because its entirely your choice as to whether you spend money on these games and their IAPs. I have played clash of clans and clash royale a lot and there is 0 requirement to spend money. You can enjoy both games just as much by not spending a penny.
What nintendo have done with their online however is just a [removed] move. Give us super basic but free online for a year and a half and then suddenly start charging for a service that isn't even 1/10 as good as the competition from Sony or MS. Want to play those games you have been playing online for free? Pay us money.
A game is a game. You can choose to buy it or not. An online service that keeps most online games from you as well as cloud saves is poor form. If you want to charge people for a service at least make it vague value for money. Look at what PSN gives you for £35/year. Good games every month, discounts on loads of games, good online, proper chat features etc etc.
Re: Hackers Have Found A Way To Exploit The Switch, And It's Apparently 'Unpatchable'
@Ralek85 You are correct that in this case the exploit is to do with the hardware architecture and if the "hackers" are correct its un-patchable. Nintendo have released very little in the way of functionality improvements to their OS and updates have consistently been dealing with locking down the OS from a security standpoint.
Piracy and hacking tend to go hand in hand I'm afraid. You are right in saying that the drive to hack is quite often not driven by malicious intent but the desire to test yourself and get more from a product however the people that use the hacks are rarely doing it for benign reasons. If you look at all of the "hacking" that anonymous and their ILK were on the news for in the last few years, people were being called hackers for clicking a mouse a few times. They simply utilised the tools others had developed to accomplish their goals. Its the same with Piracy. Just because you open up a system because you enjoy the challenge doesn't mean that piracy won't piggyback off that massively.
Re: Hackers Have Found A Way To Exploit The Switch, And It's Apparently 'Unpatchable'
@roadrunner343 I think we would all be happy with that too but allowing people access to their game save data would almost certainly lead to save data manipulation. I don't have a problem with not having direct access to my saves but for them to be this fragile is not good.
Re: Hackers Have Found A Way To Exploit The Switch, And It's Apparently 'Unpatchable'
@roadrunner343 OK, thats probably a little harsh to say I don't care if Nintendo are the victim of piracy because they are not delivering must have features but the system has been out for over a year now. There is not a chance in hell they are struggling with developing a cloud save system. There are some things that I'm just astounded are not available yet and that is a big one.
They are sitting on it to launch it with their paid for online system they launch later this year. I have no issue with a company protecting their profit generation but cloud saves should have been day 1 not a year and a half after launch.
Re: Hackers Have Found A Way To Exploit The Switch, And It's Apparently 'Unpatchable'
@kobashi100 I never said that. Its a simple example of how other industries who struggled with piracy found a solution. Ask any Switch owner if they want to be able to back up their saves though...