When it comes to product releases, particularly hardware or accessory related, Nintendo's reputation is currently suffering. After the missteps with amiibo in late 2014 and into the Summer of 2015, this year has seen Nintendo make a mess of the NES Mini launch and, in North America, with budget-priced New Nintendo 3DS models over the Black Friday weekend. The respective launches have benefitted eBay scalpers rather nicely as stock has been incredibly hard to find, either as pre-orders or on launch day and beyond.
It's been a mess, and has unsurprisingly angered those that have missed out on buying popular Nintendo products through no real fault of their own. Many want to talk about it, so in this Soapbox we have editorial director Damien McFerran tackling the issue, and editor Tom Whitehead looking into why Nintendo might be continually failing to meet demand. Spoiler: caution and mistakes may be the cause rather than outright cynicism from the big N.
So, let's get to it.
Damien McFerran - Nintendo Has Dropped the Ball
When the NES Classic Mini was revealed earlier in the year, it gave Nintendo Life one of its best days for traffic in 2016 - somewhat ironic when you consider we're talking about a small box that plays a limited collection of old games which (lest we forget) are all available in digital form elsewhere. That's the power of nostalgia, and it was blindingly obvious from that day onward that Nintendo had a hit on its hands.
Obvious to everyone but Nintendo itself, anyway.
As the launch day approached it became clear that demand was going to far outstrip supply, and horror stories of stores only getting two or maybe three units each began to emerge; it was like amiibo all over again. In a year of dismal commercial fortunes Nintendo has a solid-gold success on its hands, yet it appears to have badly undercooked the NES Classic Mini, thereby allowing money to slip through its fingers.
Some have speculated that Nintendo has done this on purpose to create a feeding frenzy that in turn generates media coverage and more demand for the product. After all, it's human nature to want what we can't have, and that is never truer than in the realm of consumerism. While it might be a bit of a stretch to accuse Nintendo of deliberately short-changing its customers to boost the standing of a particular product release, it's a very common practice in other sectors. Buzz Lightyear, Teletubbies, Beyblades and Disney's Frozen - all of these products experienced very careful and cynical stock control at their peak to ensure they remained "the toy to own", and this in turn created publicity which simply cannot be bought.
If Nintendo was able to meet the incredible demand for Pokémon Sun & Moon, then why was that not the case with the NES Classic? Perhaps the company is fearful of being left with unsold stock, but with such a low price point it's unlikely the NES Classic costs a lot to manufacture, and current demand would suggest it could have sold many times more than have been produced. It's the perfect impulse purchase product, and you can imagine people who know nothing about it walking into their local store and buying one on the spot, purely on the name and nostalgia alone. If Nintendo kept production low to avoid risk, then it strikes me as a spectacularly incompetent business decision.
Whatever the reason for the lack of NES Classic systems, the fact of the matter is Nintendo risks damaging its brand (again) by failing to meet the demand for the product this festive season. With the Wii U on its last legs Nintendo is heavily reliant on the 3DS at present, and an additional revenue stream would have been very welcome - as it stands, it's hard to see the NES Classic Mini making a massive dent on the balance sheet for this financial year, unless Nintendo is able to reverse the stock issue pronto. But will the demand still exist next year after Christmas - the biggest opportunity to sell units - has been and gone?
Tom Whitehead - Caution and Financial Prudence Have Been Damaging
I agree with the sentiment of what Damien's saying, and am of the opinion that Nintendo has messed up plenty in 2016. I do think there are business explanations worth considering, though I ask readers to not do the 'internet thing' of equating the analysis below with letting Nintendo off the hook. It's undoubtedly had another bad year of undersupplying potentially popular products (such as New 3DS over Black Friday in the US, NES Mini, even Pokémon GO Plus) and irritated plenty of people in the process. It's continued on from past examples such as limited edition 3DS designs, 'special edition' game versions and, of course, the early months of amiibo. It's a sloppy state of affairs.
Anyway, what are potential reasons for this? Back in early 2015 I actually wrote a bit about this topic in relation to financial results. To avoid boring you too much, the summary of my argument was that Nintendo is overcautious and desperate to squeeze profits from plummeting sales. It was succeeding too, and still is to a degree - sales keep dropping pretty much every quarter, but Nintendo returns modest profits or small (often temporary) losses. Currency factors with the Yen are part of it, but Nintendo has been relentlessly streamlining over the past couple of years to reduce costs, while also buffing the numbers further with some asset sales.
One factor is Inventory - stuff that the company owns, some of which needs to be sold. It's business sense not to make 10 million copies of something that will sell one million units, for example, just ask Atari and those that made the E.T. game. From Nintendo's perspective, it had two launches in relatively close proximity that failed to meet expectations. The 3DS struggled at launch (February / March 2011) and had a hefty price drop after about six months on the market, selling at a loss for around a year until manufacturing got more efficient. The Wii U then bombed after its launch in November / December 2012, and unlike the 3DS never truly improved its situation. The 3DS recovered somewhat with its price drop and then the XL model in 2012, but the Wii U was such a disaster that in one financial report sales were a negative number - the evidence is right here, with PAL territories (marked as 'Other') suffering that indignity in the 2013 financial year. That means that more units were returned to Nintendo by despairing retailers and distributors than were actually bought.
That's grim stuff, and I think it made Nintendo extremely cautious. Like any corporation it worries about keeping shareholders and investors on board, which means running a tight ship and turning around profits. It seems to me that investor confidence, that most erratic and often illogical of beasts, has been maintained by demonstrating efficiency and pointing to potential pots of gold over the rainbow, such as mobile and to an extent Switch. Both could, if they succeed, help bring back 'Nintendo-like' profits, but frankly it's all analysis and a bit of guesswork until the likes of Super Mario Run are released and the Switch arrives.
How much has Nintendo's inventory level dropped, in terms of value? Numbers are below.
- As of March 31st 2012 - 78,446 million yen
- As of March 31st 2013 - 178,722 million yen
- As of March 31st 2014 - 160,801 million yen
- As of 31st March 2015 - 76,897 million yen
- As of 31st March 2016 - 40,433 million yen
- As of 30th September 2016 - 49,056 million yen
No, inventory isn't just unsold consoles and games, I'm not saying that, but the trends are pretty obvious, with painfully high numbers in 2013 and 2014 reflecting a time when Nintendo was struggling with the Wii U in particular.
So I don't fully buy into the argument that Nintendo is manufacturing shortages to create demand, but I think it's making frequent and damaging mistakes in taking a cautious route and avoiding aggressive manufacturing. We saw it with amiibo (and the blame couldn't entirely be pinned on shipping strikes in the US), and with various 'limited edition' 3DS systems or even collector's copies of major games. There's never enough stock, and a factor could be that Nintendo would rather be efficient and sell what it's made, rather than roll the dice and back a product to sell big numbers. It's one thing to produce plenty of basic copies of Pokémon Sun and Moon, but another with less conventional products like amiibo figures or the NES Mini.
Nintendo keeps chickening out, ultimately, preferring to keep excess stock low and take profits where it can get them. It's a strange state of affairs where the company gets surprised by success, and even with Switch it's spoken about ramping up manufacturing further in early 2017 should demand make it necessary. That worries me - why potentially start low and try to react to demand later, with the possible outcome that you fail the keep up? The Wii U and its woes, that's why, but that doesn't make it the right call.
With every understocked product Nintendo gets more negative publicity, particularly on social media, to the point where it's almost a parody of itself. It announces a cool thing, everyone jokes they'll be rarer than unicorn droppings, and so it transpires. That damage to its reputation doesn't, in my opinion, get offset by modest profits and fiscal security. It just makes Nintendo look small-minded and a little frightened of its own shadow.
Maybe, ultimately, it is, though it can try to change that approach if it wants to. Nintendo is a wealthy company, but it's small compared to the size and infrastructure enjoyed by other tech companies like Sony, Microsoft, and of course Apple, Google etc. Those other companies are big-time with varied branches to their business, and Nintendo is still trying to expand into new areas while primarily being an entertainment company. Nintendo doesn't have the economic power of some of its rivals, but it makes this worse by being cautious and wary of its own potential successes.
I'm not convinced Nintendo is employing cynical toy company tactics. I think it's yet to move beyond the stings of its recent failures, and in the process is damaging its potential future successes.
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it's dumb that people pay $100+ for a nes classic when you can get a almost brand new one for that price
Artificial Scarcity makes me sick, but it has always worked out for Nintendo, so they're not about to change their marketing strat of choice anytime soon unfortunatly... -_-
While it's true that Nintendo could have sold more and made a mistake from that point of view, I don't really think it damages the brand in any significant way.
The fact that people are so upset about stock levels basically proves that the demand continues. Amiibo demand is still there, Wii consoles were scarce on launch and that didn't hurt it.
Another problem with the 3DS black friday deal was the way Amazon, in particular, handled opening up orders (and how it affected the scalper economy on eBay). They 1) sold the product earlier than indicated in any marketing material and 2) failed to notify any of the customers who signed up for their apparently useless email alerts.
I ended up having to buy from scalpers at a small premium (about 20% more than the original price) for the black model. However, had I waited I would have paid a MUCH larger premium as the average prices that sellers charged went up and eBay's guaranteed-sale-price (i.e. the price the seller is guaranteed to get) increased.
Sucks that you have to resort to scalpers but it's even worse that you basically have to buy immediately from them or watch the original price skyrocket into the stratosphere within hours when you miss the five minute window to pay the retail price. I'm confident that the NES Mini will be restocked at some point. The white N3DS might (BIG MAYBE) show up again somewhere. The black North American N3DS model, I'm confident, will never show up again. I predict it will be worth a relative fortune once scalpers catch on.
Solid article, though you guys are WAY too nice to Nintendo. WAY TOO NICE.
Nintendo no longer wants to make money. They're goal is to damage their brands enough so they can sell them off for 1/5 of what they were once worth and switch back to being a company that concentrates on love hotels.
At least that's the perception they give with their market strategy. This is what happens you have interns who have basket weaving degrees running the show.
Ah, no link to the Jimquisiton vid? Too much profanity I'm guessing.
NES should have had at least 4x as much stock at launch, an d much more to follow, its been sold out for nearly 10 days now, and they should have had so much more for this past big shopping weekend.
And they advertised the $99 New 3DS being on sale on 11/25 but it was already sold out most places by 11/23 and 11/24. that's bad marketing management on top of the low stock issue. They did have a later tweet saying available 11/24 but that first tweet is still there, 11/25.
https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/795672177941024771
Maybe they should go 3rd party and only release stuff on iOS so stock isn't an issue for them? 3rd party, theme park, shows on Netflix, why advertise and market merchandise you aren't going to make any effort to produce?
Anybody old enough to hear - and read - a ton of profanity, this was a nice venting vid about Nintendo's NES stock woes. You've been warned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRicuKHmjZA&t=10s
I'm in agreement with Tom Whitehead's point of view. Nintendo developed an inferiority complex that it needs to get over in a hurry. Apparently they value stockholder confidence over consumer confidence if the inventory amounts are as big a deal as suggested. I gave them the benefit of the doubt with amiibo since the demand for that surprised everyone and it was a new thing for them, but Nintendo has been wrenching NES nostalgia for years, so there's no excuse for that.
Reggie went on record a while ago saying that the fans haven't lost faith in Nintendo, and he was right, going by all these extreme stock issues. It's just too bad they don't have the same faith in themselves. He also went on record that Nintendo suffers from scalpers as much as anyone else, but they have the power to actually do something about it unlike the customers and for whatever reason, they don't. They spent so much time streamlining their distribution channels and it seems to have only benefited software. If they do intend to fix this like they know they should, they'd better by the time SNES Classic comes around or there will be true hell to pay.
Nintendo undervalues their own brands when it comes to nostalgia.
I recall my Day One purchase of Bayonetta 2 from a local GameStop. The WiiU was struggling and had few new releases. And then here comes Bayonetta 2, which was a known franchise, a Wii U exclusive, had an unbelievably good demo and was packed in with Bayonetta 1. My GameStop received a total of 3 copies, and I had to convince them to sell me a copy that I had pre-ordered.
I see a resistance to marketing tied to these types of supply shortages. Make more, market more, sell more and take back your throne, Nintendo.
I think this was intentional from Nintendo. They've made clear that in this Kamishima-era of Nintendo that they are going to consolidate, not sell at a loss, and focus on brand name recognition. Well, I see the evidence. The NES mini, is a novelty item for Nintendo, not a "breadwinner" item like their main consoles, so they were never going to mass produce this system-- the proof was in their own advertising. I saw it on their website and on gaming sites such as this one but... TV? Movie theaters? Can't speak on gaming magazines as I don't even bother with them much, but my point is, it was advertised in limited fashion that only us hardcore gamer/Nintendophiles/etc. would KNOW about it. The NES Mini is one for the niche audience of nostalgics and collectors, and Nintendo was VERY aware, do not think otherwise. With everything I outlined above that Nintendo is trying to accomplish going forward into 2017, Nintendo only intended to let demand drive the NES Mini, not supply/bottom line/etc. I'm not mad, but even with the holidays around, I still felt they would at least pump them steadily, but 2 or 3 per store at a time? Guess I'll get mine some time next year as I will never pay an exuberant price for it. I just want my slice of the nostalgic/novelty pie.
They have a couple of NES Minis on Ebay just for $499 + Free Shipping!
@Danrenfroe2016
Yet they overestimate with the new brands when they thought they would sell 100 million Wii U's.
How long before Nintendo does the "Penny Arcade" model for the Switch's launch?
https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/06/25
I will probably die before I get an nes mini or even a snes mini when that comes out. But it's ok. Life goes on. Just not for me 💀 lol
I was just looking for Wii U games for my kids for Christmas and thought, hey maybe they would like Mario & Sonic 2016 Olympics. Low and behold, it's sold out everywhere, Nintendo doesn't make it anymore, and it's going for $300+ on Ebay. Why spend millions making a game and then release 2-3 per store and discontinue it right away? With next to zero new Wii u games in 2016, why wouldn't they at least support the few that they did put out? We're talking 6 months here. 6 months later, and this game is "rare". It's unbelievable that Nintendo keeps screwing up demand over and over and over again. It's to the point that I check every day to see when Switch pre-orders go up, because I know it will be hard to get on day 1.
Another thing is that Nintendo is the least western of the tech companies. Sony has westernized to an extensive degree, but Nintendo is still very very conservatively Japanese in their dealings. It keeps them from securing third parties, and it means everything sells out for months.
Their inability to cater to a globalized market is arrogance, for which the market will continue to punish them, but I'm not sure if it's deliberate entirely.
Well, here's my opinion why the NES Mini is always short on supply?
You see, Nintendo want this console to last for a while before it gets discontinued. And with the Nintendo Switch on the horizon, they don't want it to be overshadowed by NES Mini. It's merely a method to get people excited for Nintendo again and also for their new console. I, for one, would want something new from Nintendo, and if I want to play these nostalgia games, I have the original consoles for this.
I know someone will say: "But it's cheaper, and has more games out of the box". Yes, but the price has triggered the supply shortage. Maybe if Nintendo increases the price of the NES Mini temporarily, the supply shortage wouldn't be a problem. Again, that's my opinion, so if you like it, or don't like it, that's fine with me.
@Captain_Gonru "And it's the advertising that makes some of these "cautious" arguments incomplete at best."
Why even make the thing if they weren't going to make nearly enough to meet demand? But I knew this would happen. They've always talked up amiibo sales and Wii sales and game sales, then they have a great $60 fly-off-the-shelves product coming out for the holidays and they barley touch upon it in any of their financial meetings. They should have been like "Look guys, we're going to sell 10 million of these over the holidays, that's $600 million revenue for the quarter. Buy our stock now." But all they did was date it b/c they knew the low quantity would have such a small impact. Really makes me wonder how long they'll actively market it after Switch? People will stop looking for it if they can't readily find it. Nintendo needs to slap a "Limited Time Only" sticker on everything they sell. Except Super Mario Run.
@rjejr 4x as much is a bit high don't you think? It sold over 250k in Japan in the first week. If that was the case in Europe and the US then 4x as much would be atleast 3 million units....which is more units than Nintendo Switch they're planning on shipping for launch.
I think it would be a bit odd for the NES Mini to be on the scale of a real console launch.
The fact that there are NES Classics and Black Edition New 3DS consoles on eBay for well over $200 proves that Nintendo is leaving sales and profits on the floor by not having enough stock to meet the obvious demand for both of those products this season. I don't accuse them of doing this on purpose, but I hope they re-stock soon so that people can get it at the MSRP and profits go to Nintendo instead of sellers on eBay!
Nintendo's in survival mode. Most companies would launch (not literally) say, 6 units at a retail unit, but Nintendo does a 1-2-3 launch. It sees one sell it then sets out 2 and then 3. A strange hybrid scheme of survival and scarcity marketing is how I'd describe Nintendo, even from the Yamauchi days
It has dropped the ball. With sure bet products like the $99 New 3ds, they still understocked, and releasing a cheap 3DS before Pokemon's launch is printing money!
The other main problem they have is scalpers. They don't bother enforcing a limit of 1 per person, and that is doing a lot of damage to their brand. The little available stock is scooped to be resold on eBay.
My first gaming love was the NES. I have owned every Nintendo system both home and portable. I bought a Wii U on launch day. I have Zelda prints framed and hanging up in my office. I am as big a Nintendo fan as you can get.
I was going to pick a Mini up on launch day- unaware of the lines and short stock- and called around all day to see if I could snag one, but to no avail. They have lost a customer. It was an impulse buy to begin with (already had an NES, albeit a barely working one). So now I'm asking the wife for a Steam gift card for Christmas of the same value. I'm not waiting, sorry.
This combined with the sorry Wii U lifecycle and the rumor that Zelda will be pushed to the summer means I am skipping the Switch for now. I'll get it eventually when it's sub $200 and loaded with extras. But, to me, a company that has had such an abysmal last 5 years needs to start stepping up their game otherwise they'll blow all the good will they have left with a shrinking fan base.
Very good article. I wonder how much of this is truly Nintendo's fault? Maybe the companies they have creating their hardware are having issues?
I don't get what's the big deal. I'm gonna buy what is interesting and available at a price that's acceptable compared to alternatives. I don't think Nintendo owes me anything. They could ship only one of this if they so please, I just won't buy it then. Sure, it's interesting to analyze why they do what they do if you're into that, what I don't get is all the hate. Nintendo, like all others, do what they think is best for them. If that ever benefits me, I consider myself lucky. If not, that's a neutral situation.
Honestly I never would have produced much either.
I assumed it would sell a couple hundred thousand units and be forgotten in short order as just a novelty item.
I don't think Nintendo view themselves the way Sony and M$ View themselves. Nintendo are a company that hit the big time in the 80s/90s but they still behave like a small business.
They are very cautious in their approach, but they are making money. I think Nintendo have some of the smartest business minds out there. They have strict rules and they follow them. I am not surprised Nintendo didn't invest heavily in this project. I'd be more surprised if they did. We will get a Classic mini when we get one.
Momentum means you'll clear excessive stock later. Especially if the product is meant to last.
So with amiibo and Nes mini I kinda understand, although nes mini should have been foreseen. Yet with the switch? They should produce aggressively because, within the year, they'll sell a boatload of them.
Because these are so cheap, overproducing by a little wouldn't have been a big issue. They should have taken the risk, as selling more of these and meeting the demand would probably help them out when they start pushing Switch with TV advertisements. Instead, people will just say "nope, not fighting the scalpers for another Nintendo, and it's not even Christmas..."
I'm not just sticking up for Nintendo and I think they are far too cautious in stock levels, but try getting a Playstation VR anywhere for RRP. It seems like everyone congratulates sony for making a popular well received device that sells out but Nintendo do the same and its all either a sinister plan or terrible management.
Nintendo have a terrible mindset in many aspects of their business.
I think Nintendo really needs to make some serious changes on the corporate levels anyone with half a active brain would have known what products would be huge for sales all they have to do is pay some attention to trends on social sites .
either angry tweets have been removed or folks just forgot about it and moved on to something else
Never thought I'd have issues finding a 3DS this late in the systems life cycle.
Wanted one at launch. Decided to wait. And since I saw this mayhem, I just decided to let it go and bought a few PC games instead last Friday.
You lost sales here Nintendo.
There have been two occasions this year when I really wanted a Nintendo product and could not get it. The first was the Fire Emblem Fates special edition. This one is particularly strange. When it became obvious that demand for the product was very high Nintendo should have made plans to produce more. Instead they stuck to the story that Limited editions should be limited. The real reason (of course) is that they had a contract to produce X number of the special art book and case and did not want to have to negotiate for more. The result was lots of people who were upset that they could not get it.
The second case is the controller for the NES mini. I want one to use with my VC titles on the Wii. In this case I am not so upset because I know that if I am patient I will eventually be able to get one at MSRP. That will probably happen shortly after Christmas when Nintendo finally catch up to demand.
However, I still think that Nintendo screwed up big time by under shipping the NES mini. It may be that most people who want one will keep trying until they get one. However, I bet there will be lots of potential customers who will get tired of calling around to find one and will chose to spend the money elsewhere.
Nice to see most people are upset with Nintendo. Those of you who are defending them, wow.
I bought a new gaming PC on Black Friday. Unless Switch is actually appealing (early indications of a port-filled launch say it won't be), I'm going to be a PC/3DS til it dies gamer for awhile.
Come on Nintendo, find the light and make your company even decent again.
Just like the Amiibos when they were first released, the current shortage of the NES Classic is on purpose. It creates a demand that helps sell units. I know people who are going crazy trying to find these right now that don't play video games and never really have. For those on the fence, when they finally see one of these on the shelf, will say to themselves "gee, this is a hard to find product....I should probably buy this".
I was going to finally upgrade my original model 3DS to the new one this black Friday, but only the first 5 people in any store near me had a chance to purchase one. The other models are too expensive for me to consider upgrading to, so Nintendo just lost a full sale from me.
Seriously, if they don't want a surplus, they could at least take pre-orders so fans don't get screwed over.
Increase the price of the NES mini, and the problem is solved!
This article completely nails exactly how I feel about Nintendo. Best article this site has ever published, and it speaks the TRUTH about the company despite what some folks around here want to believe is true.
This excerpt especially is pure gold:
"With every understocked product Nintendo gets more negative publicity, particularly on social media, to the point where it's almost a parody of itself. It announces a cool thing, everyone jokes they'll be rarer than unicorn droppings, and so it transpires. That damage to its reputation doesn't, in my opinion, get offset by modest profits and fiscal security. It just makes Nintendo look small-minded and a little frightened of its own shadow."
@Mart1ndo
"They are very cautious in their approach, but they are making money. I think Nintendo have some of the smartest business minds out there. They have strict rules and they follow them. I am not surprised Nintendo didn't invest heavily in this project. I'd be more surprised if they did. We will get a Classic mini when we get one."
LOL I can't even begin to process if this is a serious comment or not.
Stock problems can be annoying and I don't bother paying things above their suggested price. Aside from Breath of the Wild next year, I'll be sticking with last gen games for 2017 since their prices are much cheaper now and can keep you occupied for a long time.
@gatorboi352
Sorry. It won't happen again. 🖕
This is just one of those situations where Nintendo just can't win. No matter how much they produce scalpers will usually win anyways because thy usually just buy up all the systems just so they can horde them for themselves and ransom them off for insane prices. Really though I am getting tired of this artificial shortage idea people keep throwing out. They likely would likely have a much easier time keeping up with demand if it weren't for all the greedy ass scalpers.
To answer Damian's comment, consider that 3DS game cards are likely as as nowhere near complex and much easier to manufacture quickly in vast quantities compared to something like an NES Mini. Plus Pokemon is already popular enough as it is so it's relatively easy to anticipate demand for that game. The NES Mini as you said is basically a box that plays a limited selection of old games that are readily available elsewhere. It's not hard to see why from a business perspective they wouldn't expect it to sell a ton aside from a relatively niche audience.
I think it's obvious the Mini wasn't really intended to be Nintendo's flagship item for this Christmas. That was more likely Pokemon Sun and Moon.
I would agree with Toms assessment. Nintendo's recent failures like Wii U have basically forced them into a survival mode of sorts where they are afraid of producing excessive amounts of their products out of fear of them bombing and pissing off the shareholders even more. Sure Nintendo may have a lot of money but they are still quite small not to mention they lack the infrastructure and economic and financial muscle enjoyed by the bigger tech companies.
Like people say Nintendo be damned if they do damned if they don't
@XCWarrior Sounds like someones been chugging the conspiracy kool aid
Nintendo needs to sell pre-orders on their website then only produce enough to fulfill the pre-orders. That way Nintendo would cut out the scalpers and allow everyone, who wants the NES mini, to get one. Also Nintendo wouldn't lose any money.
@Xaessya Good point.
I guess another problem is trying to do world wide releases... i have a feeling that I will not get a NES Classic for Christmas.
@Clownshoes
WOW... This analogy is perfect!
I think I can officially call myself a recovering Nintendo Fanboy. I am 45 years old and have been there from the beginning. I will no longer being jumping through Nintendo's hoops.
I have switched eligince and found a company that has no problems taking my money and they are called Microsoft.
@Wolfgabe
@KIREEK I was one of the lucky ones. I rarely get any sleep so I was just refreshing the New 3DS page and there it was (just like 5 minutes after it has been published). Snag a white one ASAP.
Then, during the evening of Black Friday, they restocked only the black one and tried to buy one for my son, but it kept me from putting into my cart time and time again.
But don't get me started on the NES mini! I mean, they sent me an email, I bookmarked the page and tried for two hours to no avail. I really wanted one, maybe two, but, alas, Nintendo didn't made enough of them.
Still, I really hope tat they are churning them out in great quantities to keep the scalpers with their hands full of unsold inventory.
@Wolfgabe Totally agree. The fact that Tom Whitehead was half defending Nintendo in this article makes you think he's got the Nintendo koolaid being injected right into his veins.
@XCWarrior I wasn't talking bout him. I was mainly referring to the person who thinks Nintendo no longer wants to make money and is trying to piss people off and destroy their brands on purpose just so they can go back to doing love hotels. I said conspiracy Kool-Aid not Nintendo Kool-Aid
@WilliamCalley Very funny
Nothing new in this article. You boys might as well stay up on that soap box because this wont change. As a Nintendo fan I generally make 2 decisions: 1) Do I want something bad enough to be first in line or pay eBay prices? 2) Say F#$K it and decide not to buy it. That's really all I can do. I'm sure I can pick up a NES Classic Mini in Feb/March when stock catches up and the public moves on.
Nintendo probably thought it was a niche product with niche audience. Hence they thought they made enough. No one has a crystal ball and this product could have just as easily have flopped. If you make too many and no-one buys means they would lose money. Make not enough and people whine.
Trolltastic in here...keep em coming...lol
@Clownshoes I am not trying to shield Nintendo here but there is likely a good reason for why stuff like this happens other than the whole artificial scarcity song and dance people keep throwing out.
On Switch I think it's extremely premature to claim the hardware is undercooked when we barely know anything about it other than rumors. Of all the rumored ports I have seen I don't see any that are games that are 6+ years old. When I say survival mode I mean at the moment likely due to the fact Wii U's failure has not really put them in a good position to take a lot of huge risks.
What I find pathetic is how you people can get so worked up over how you can't get ahold of a glorified piece of plastic and circuitry.
The conspiracy person I was referring to wasn't Tom it was XC Warrior. Look at his earliest comment here.
"Nintendo no longer wants to make money. They're goal is to damage their brands enough so they can sell them off for 1/5 of what they were once worth and switch back to being a company that concentrates on love hotels."
Smells like typical conspiracy theorist dreck to me
It is sad that we still can't walk into a store and buy a NES Classic. This should have been avoided, as Black Friday and Cyber Monday has come and gone in the US and Nintendo could have made a ton of money from NES Classic. It is truly their loss.
@Elithal Bingo. It's not really fair to heap all the blame on Nintendo here since there are other companies involved in the supply chain.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to say Nintendo dropped the ball with the NES Classic Mini. It seemed like easy holiday money to me; they could have easily banked on nostalgia and the relatively low price point to shift units.
Tbh I wasn't as bothered by the NES Classic shortage as I was by the N3DS shortage. However, that's more of a regional NoA decision. I still don't understand the overall logic about not launching the normal N3DS in North America. While it's true it hasn't sold as well in other regions as the N3DS XL, it's obvious that there's still a clear demand for it.
Very good analyses in this article, kudos!
That said, I'm skeptical about the "Nintendo is just incompetent for whatever reason" argument. Why is it that even small companies like Atlus have no problem with the strategy of "limited stock at first, replenish stock in timely manner upon sellout," yet a prolific company like Nintendo can't handle it? I posted this before, and I think it's worth recounting:
With any such situation, it is imperative to ask: who benefits?
1. EBay : Increased commerce and cut of sales, especially for higher priced items
2. Nintendo : Increased interest in their product, fueling demand even after stock has sold through
3. Retailers : Quickly sells through stock, no hassle with shelf space, and absolved of responsibility for selling multiple units per household by business policy
4. TASHS (TurnAround Second Hand Sellers) : Obvious reasons
Pretty much everyone involved except for normal customers gets some benefit out of this arrangement. Even if there is no conspiring, it all seems carefully planned out to intentionally withhold stock to maximize benefits. Indeed, the result would actually be less beneficial for these four involved parties if Nintendo produced enough stock to at least mostly meet initial demand. If they had done so:
1. EBay would not be able to normalize higher prices, thereby drastically lowering their cut
2. Nintendo would have fulfilled most of the initial demand, thereby drastically reducing future demand for the NES Mini
3. Retailers would be more likely to need to take up valuable shelf space and energy/resources spent to sell any leftover units
4. TASHS would have far less incentive to try capitalizing on a product which has met most of it's initial demand
I can only conclude that this situation was no coincidence. It is an intentional strategy to withhold units initially, and restock later when demand due to artificial scarcity has reached a fever pitch.
Whom is more dastardly: the second hand seller who takes advantage of artificial scarcity for personal gain, or the company that knowingly set the situation into motion to begin with?
Nintendo is not a stranger to this strategy, either. This is also worth recounting:
Both of the books Game Over by David Sheff (c. 1993, but especially in the later c. 1999 edition), and Console Wars by Blake Harris (c. 2014) go into detail on the genesis of this business strategy. I'll quote from Console Wars:
"Peter Main, the Vice President of Marketing for Nintendo during the late 1980's, created a distribution strategy that purposefully provided licensees and retailers with only a fraction of the products that they requested." (Hence, the probable reason why most stores are only reported as having about 5-12 NES Mini's each in our case.)
"The goal of this technique was twofold: to create a frenzy for whatever products were available, and to protect overeager industry players from themselves."
So, what is the result of creating a very limited release of NES Mini's, in our case? A frenzy to get every last sparsely available product, and a confident assurance from Nintendo that a resupply will be available throughout the holiday season. Hmm... Sounds familiar, doesn't it? History has been repeated under different conditions.
Of course, the absolute proof would be to have confirmation from retailers, but it might be tough to get concrete answers on that. Seeing as how only the Nintendo World Store had significantly more stock than anywhere else, though, it's a safe bet that it happened in some capacity.
@PlywoodStick That's actually a surprisingly well thought out post
@PlywoodStick
Nice comment. You make a great point, not only can Nintendo create their own playing field (much like creating Nintendo Directs and removing most of their announcements from E3) but they also have bragging rights. It sounds good to stockholders that you sold 100% of stock and social network sites still show a certain percentage of invested interest from consumers.
@Dr_Lugae ".which is more units than Nintendo Switch they're planning on shipping."
NES Mini launched during the holidays when insane American's trample each other to death in the malls trying to get what they want. And it's $60, that's 3 weeks worth of coffee at Starbucks for a bit of the ole nostalgia and 30 games. How much do you think Switch is going to cost at launch in March when nobody is shopping for anything?
I think NES probably launched w/ 1 million, give or take, I think 5 million over the holidays was realistic. Probably even more if they would have put it in the BF ads for $50, Americans will buy anything in those ads with the words "Doorbuster" written above it.
So yes, I do think a $60 item w/ 30 games over the holidays will sell twice as well as $200+ item w/ 8-10 games in March.
There'd be a lot more of them in stock if scalpers would all FOAD
If Nintendo keeps this up, the Nintendo Switch will NOT be people switching to Nintendo, but switching to Sony or Microsoft.
@Wolfgabe @Elithal Thanks! I'm not so sure about the Wii U situation, though... If I had to guess, Nintendo has been going through some major restructuring. For example, it's become glaringly obvious that they've implemented huge budget cuts to their marketing and advertising compared to past generations. During this console generation, we did not see anything even remotely approaching the "minimum of $100 spent on marketing per console sold" strategy of the N64 era, despite the gargantuan bankroll from the Wii/DS era. Nintendo is known for being fiscally conservative where possible, but it seems that something is going on behind the scenes to push this tendency towards the extreme.
@rjejr What kind of cheapo Starbucks is that, where $60 lasts 3 weeks? Tall latte's and things like that are nearly $5 a pop! One a day, and you'll run out within 2 weeks.
It's way cheaper/tastier to brew your own coffee, even if it's Cowboy style.
@PlywoodStick I've always had $4 in my head for a Starbucks coffee, I do all my important life matters based on $4 cups of Starbucks coffee. Which is funny b/c I don't drink Starbucks coffee. There Chai tea lattes are pretty good, but Panera's are way better.
@rjejr The bread bowls with onion soup from Panera used to be one of the best things ever, 16 years ago. I feel like it's not as good as it used to be.
@PlywoodStick mmmm, bread bowl. Last time I had a good bread bowl was probably Fisherman's Wharf about 20 years ago. Man, now I'm hungry. And old. Maybe I can trade my unopened NES Mini for a good bread bowl soup, are they still going for over $200 on eBay?
Starting to worry again that I won't get an NES Mini. :-/
I think Sticks the Badger from Sonic Boom said it best, when she said...
"It's all part of some evil plot, man!"
Think about it: Why are the scalpers targeting Nintendo specifically, and not Microsoft or Sony? The scalpers would want Nintendo to be more competitive, and overprice the items they make! That way, Nintendo themselves can get more profit, and when you figure 5 bucks for the NES Games, each, it should be worth $150! I mean, nobody even thinks about overcharging for an AtGames SEGA Genesis Plug-N-Play, because unlike Nintendo, SEGA actually licenses their games to a Chinese manufacturer!
If SEGA and Nintendo actually had brains, they would just make Compilation Discs, instead of nomming down on Member Berries, because Member Berries want to cause a global disaster that will result in the END OF HUMANKIND!!
But seriously, If SEGA made a GOOD Compilation DIsc for PS4 and XBox One, it would have all 7 Sonic Games WITH the Lock-On Bonuses, The stuff of the past compilations, and bonuses, including Fantasy Zone 1 AND 2, as done on the 3DS. The emulation would have to be done by the KEGA Fusion team, though.
As for Nintendo, with a Compilation Disc on the Wii U, you won't have to keep your Virtual Console games, as you won't need to download them! Of course, there IS the matter of the multiple third-party titles littering a Nintendo-published compilation disc.
Just think how many millions of dollars they lost on this stupidity. I bet after the holidays they will complain that they had poor sales. 😂 Well, the sales would have been outstanding if they'd have put out sufficient stuff to sell!! They should hire competent people that understand the game industry and what people want. I'm also perpetually ticked off that they don't acknowledge their large number of female gamers. Actually, they are dwindling because Nintendo barely ever releases enough for that demographic anymore. They WANT us to go elsewhere to satisfy our gaming needs. Nintendo is heading for bankruptcy if they don't do a 180 and become the company they used to be.
We bought Sony products this year instead. And I mean I didn't buy not one single Nintendo item. Planned on buying Zelda Breath of the Wild. Oh well. Sorry Nintendo. The Ps4 owns our gift plans for Christmas and my Christmas money this year
@PlywoodStick Good point. I heard (not able to find source) that Nintendo has enough to fail a few generations before they truly have to worry. It's possible they can afford to test waters with newer tablet-based consoles with little marketing.
@Elithal Here's two takes on the UK Nintendo Gamer Magazine research from 2012:
http://www.gamesradar.com/nintendo-doomed-not-likely-just-take-look-how-much-money-its-got-bank/
http://nintendotoday.com/nintendo-not-doomed/
Basically, Nintendo can survive about a US$250 million loss every year until about 2052. Even if that happened, Nintendo could still survive off of their IP before going out of business, for at least another 23 years.
And of course, thanks to the 3DS, Amiibo, and Pokémon Go (and probably Super Mario Run soon as well), even with how terrible this console generation has been for Nintendo, that's not even close to happening.
I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that Nintendo went into super fiscal conservative mode with the Wii U, to act as a stopgap until the technology for the S(and)witch's infrastructure and interface were ready for the mass market. Nintendo would take a big hit in consumer confidence, but they're gambling towards the mobile market and the "blue ocean" to a degree even greater than the Wii/DS did. However, as backup, they will finally also have the specs and infrastructure to bring onboard major 3rd parties again, fulfilling the promise of returning widespread appeal for traditional gamers that the Wii U missed.
If this is the case, then it is a showcase of the hidden wisdom of Iwata's planning.
@PlywoodStick. Haha, wow you found the articles. Thanks man, good work.
@rjejr Yep, $200 minimum. You might end up spending that much trying to find a place that makes a great bread bowl with soup though! Better charge an an extra $15 for the Mini so you can pay for the bread bowl when you get there.
I honestly wasn't expecting the NES Classic to be as popular as it is, so I'm not surprised that there's a shortage.
I see it more as a collectible item than anything else... something that's only made available for a limited time, in quantities just large enough to meet demand, so wasn't expecting them to manufacture it in particularly large numbers to begin with.
It's probably not easy to predict the popularity of something like this though... as far as I'm aware it's the first time a special version of a retro console has been released like this, so it's not like they had a precedent to gauge it's potential popularity against.
I haven't bought anything made or published by Nintendo (aside from Tokyo Mirage Sessions and Sun and Moon) the past like, 6 months, so I haven't personally been affected by any of the stock shortages... Aside from when the Ness amiibo came out. I was pretty sure I would never get one, but I crapped my dungarees when GameStop had them in stock while I was pre ordering Sun and Moon.
Anyway, I've heard nothing but horror stories this year, and I'm getting really worried about the Switch. I really don't want to have to hunt one down.
Sorry but I took advantage of the suckers out there. Not the first time but it's not my fault, I just enjoy the occasional little profit. I preordered, picked up and sold on eBay while I was at work. I made $120 profit. It paid towards$150 in other video games. I will get one once I can again but hey, I'm not the person who bought it at $200. Every couple years this kind of opportunity comes up...sorry, I like money.
As for the shortages, I think Nintendo likes to keep a constant in or flow coming in, not always huge sales and then nothing, a wave in other words. I'm sure they like money too, but they are a small company and really they are only going to sell like 15 million of these is so. I doubt it will sell much more over next couple years...
@PlywoodStick
3. Retailers would be more likely to need to take up valuable shelf space and energy/resources spent to sell any leftover units
That's completely untrue. Retailers need units to sell items. Sales are the only thing they care about. A. They likely have to allocate shelf space to the NES classic anyway. Shipments are coming in consistently and most of the time they aren't marketed to consumers so they go right to the shelf even if customers will pick them up that same day. B. This is a huge hassle for retailers. Customer service calls around the clock asking about availability. People in store asking personnel about availability. Every time a shipment comes in they have to think about how to route customers or line them up or use a ticketing system. Or even try to find them. Many people online use inventory trackers and are adamant that stores have copies they do not know where they are. Think about the cost of a square foot of retail space versus how many employee hours are spent on this product. C. The second hand markets are taking a huge amount of sales from these stores. These are sales that are lost for these retail establishments and they won't get back. Never would a store like to lose sales over saving a square foot of retail space.
2. Nintendo : Increased interest in their product, fueling demand even after stock has sold through
Debatable. The biggest advantage to scarcity marketing is an increased price as seen on Ebay. However, since Nintendo isn't going to charge to more than retail they don't really benefit from an increased price. The other benefit is an increased demand. However, it's unlikely Nintendo will meet this demand by Christmas which is fueling most of the ebay price. After Christmas when supply is back to normal it's likely those that felt like they had to have it because it was "rare" will likely not feel that need anymore because it won't be "rare". At the very least you need to know that there are risks with this strategy and it's not a slam dunk. Customers get frustrated when they can't get product, and customers that pay more for items have higher expectations. In the short term it drums up marketing but it can damage a brand over time.
I dont think the strategy of scarcity of product draws more interest in the product. I think its a fallacy. I think if there is a product to buy I might buy it. Nintendo gets my money. If there is no product to buy I cannot purchase it. I spend my money somewhere else. I think its that simple. Why dangle and entice me with the carrot I cant have with the hopes of making the sale in the future when they can simply sell it and have my money now? I really dont think that many lustful future people are gonna jump on the I gotta get one wagon because if they arent already in the know they wont get too excited about it because they wont find the product anyway. Why increase demand in the people who want to buy it by not letting them? These fools outsmart themselves everytime. Get the money now. Get it as fast as you can as long as the demand allows. And remember that REAL (not engineered) demand can and will occur when the product is great you know.
@PlywoodStick Ah, it would probably be a horrible gluten free bread anyway. Guess I'll let my kid keep his Christmas gift and just keep eating funnel cake at the Dairy Queen.
@Priceless_Spork
Scarcity marketing works in two ways that don't really seem to apply to Nintendo. The first is if the resources are actually limited. Think of a high class restaurant where they only have so many tables or a vacation destination where only so many rooms are available or even energy resources. The 2nd is if the supplier himself can actually benefit. Something like custom construction. If you need this item now, we can build it for you but it's going to cost you extra. Or we are the only supplier and we are going to raise our prices due to the high demand. Nintendo is technically the only supplier, but they won't raise their prices and eventually supply will catch up with demand so it's not a truly limited item.
@Diamondhero an almost brand new what?
Most companies are careful and avoid over producing. That is a good thing, as it conserves resources. Talking about artificial scarcity is so silly. There is always scarcity of everything. Let companies have their strategies. Producing more of some things means less of others. Only silly companies are swayed by public opinion and sell things at a loss to somehow stay popular. People still keep complaining, so it gets them nowhere.
I don't blame them at all. You can't judge demand for a product based on traffic to a site like this. We're not representative of the market at all. On here, games like Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2 and Xenoblade Chronicles were huge games that everyone was looking forward to, but in reality, none of them are big hits.
I don't think this a product that would have sold millions and millions, but the vocal minority that can't get one are making it seem like a bigger deal than it is. Yes, they under shipped it, but probably not by as much as most people think.
Too much noise for nothing. When it was revealed and the pre-sales were available, I could reserve mine with just one click. Of course this was months ago. So the people who are complaining are just those that left to buy on lauch day. This is just dumb when related with a Nintendo product.
@Peach64
Nah, you are wrong this time.
The NES mini was trending on Twitter and drawing far more online interest than those other niche games you mentioned (who anyone in their right mind knew were not going to be big sellers).
And I would hope that Nintendo also did some marketing and focus group studies to gauge people's intent to purchase and interest in the product. And again, checking online reactions, the response was overwhelmingly positive and massive. Almost at Pokemon Go levels following its announcement.
If Nintendo can sell tens of thousands of shoes with NES character designs on them, surely they are smart enough to produce a million or more of the Mini, a $60 impulse buy which would no doubt sellout during the Christmas season.
This product not only appeals to the current fans of Nintendo and gaming, but people in their 40's-30's who have moved on but would want one to relive the nostalgia, if only for a few hours use.
I feel the issues have been exacerbated by scalpers etc, so Nintendo can't be blamed entirely. There probably could have been a few more units out in the wild, and perhaps they can look at ways of reducing the risk of reselling at some point, but honestly....
I feel it's more a case of people being 'cheap' with the 3DS (as well an non-proactive when it came to preordering the NES Mini) that has caused the most upset. Little Jimmy can still get his toys for Xmas, just get off your ass and do something about it.
Well I got my mini nes a day early so I've got nothing to complain about preordered off Nintendo uk store. Had people telling me to sell it on eBay for silly money but I'm not like that so didn't bother robbing someone
@sandman89 Good on you, for both instances.
@setezerocinco
I don't know where you live but in the US many stores didn't have pre-orders and the ones that did were all sold out in 20 minutes so you were extremely lucky to get a pre-order. My buddy is scalper and has spent a lot of time going to stores and checking inventory trackers and waiting in lines and he hasn't bought one at a store yet. I mean the Wii was pretty easy to get in the first few weeks. Stores posted when they were going to get them, and they usually got a bit of stock. So showing up 1 hour early to a store that said they were going to get some resulted in you finding one. I've never really seen a product as rare as the mini and I usually have opportunities on these types of items.
@Mortenb
" Producing more of some things means less of others. Only silly companies are swayed by public opinion and sell things at a loss to somehow stay popular."
In a macro look, yes the world has limited resources. In a micro look, selling fewer products means Nintendo generates less revenue and thus has less resources than they could to allocate to future development/manufacturing. I mean I'm not really sure what losing money has to do with selling a $15 manufactured item for $60.
@WilliamCalley
I agree. I thought the short shipment by Nintendo was a big mistake. Non-gaming journalists were writing of its appeal. It had a buzz at my work that I haven't seen since the Wii days among people that typically wouldn't be interested in gaming. To me it just shows how out of touch Nintendo is with the market. I thought the appeal of the mini was obvious, shouldn't Nintendo have seen that too?
@cleveland124 ok, so I did not know the situation in USA was like this. Is it not possible to import? For example, the famicon mini I have ordered from japan.
"No real fault of their own"
Not completely true if you preordered day of reveal July 15th it would have arrived day one.
Like I did and got mine on day one. Try to get it a month before - it's not going to happen boo hoo
@setezerocinco
Importing is always an option. But usually that comes with a cost premium and almost everyone who played the Nes in the US is nastolgic for the toaster so getting that is part of the experience.
@chansey
Then you don't live in the US. None of the major retailers offered preorders. Best buy (a major US retailer) didn't even have a NES mini page until 10/17 so certainly no US retailer had a preorder the day of reveal. I actually only know of 1 retailer that had a preorder. It was live 7:30-8 AM like October 5th at Target and was unannounced. So if you happened to be looking for it during that window you could preorder. Any other time you were out of luck.
@cleveland124 Retailers are currently dedicating as much shelf space as possible for Sony/Microsoft, while Nintendo shelf space is noticeably as limited as possible. Maybe this could change with the S(and)witch. For now, however, they're scrunching in games, systems, and Amiibo. They don't want to set aside yet more space for the NES Mini, a one sale per person novelty item. They'd rather sell out of them quickly with each shipment, while keeping stock limited. They also don't want to have to potentially deal with cluttering up stores with a huge number of NES Mini's in the future that are returned or sold used to them, once this initial buzz ends.
I think you underestimate the willingness of the management leaders to conserve shelf/floor space for every store in the whole nation, while having their employees do what they're paid to do anyways. The hassle of limited stock and dealing with customers looking for it isn't a significant burden on the retailer- just think of all the hours, energy, and money that customers as a whole have spent just trying to find an NES Mini! The real burden here is on the consumer.
It doesn't make sense that TASHS (TurnAround Second Hand Sellers) would "take business away" from retailers, because they bought NES Mini's from the retailers in the first place! The retailers generally don't care who gets them. Nintendo isn't "taking business away" from themselves by releasing only limited stock, either. I think you put too much blame on TASHS.
EBay does benefit by getting a greater amount from the percentage cut for every higher priced second hand NES Mini. Nintendo partially benefits from this in the near future as soon as they replenish stock, due to the increased demand for the product's lower retail prices that the significantly raised second hand prices create.
The "rarity" issue nevertheless still applies today, which was one of the points I made. If Nintendo had made enough stock initially to fuel most of the initial demand, then the scenario you propose of people not feeling that the NES Mini is "rare" would be true. But that's not the case here. It is "rare" precisely because the stock has been limited by Nintendo. With the current buzz, Nintendo will have no problem responding with another limited stock release, which will perpetuate the "rarity" and therefore "desirability" of the NES Mini as much as possible into next year.
Any damage to the Nintendo brand as a result is a trade off that Nintendo was willing to make to follow through on their strategy. The business world is full of trade offs; sometimes an earlier loss is utilized to later translate into a gain.
@PlywoodStick
Would McDonald's be happy not having burgers to sell to you? Would Toyota be happy not having Camry's to sell to you? Of course Walmart wants to have the hottest toy on the shelf ready to sell to you. It's crazy to argue otherwise.
What they don't want is product that doesn't sell taking up shelf space. That's precisely why the Wii U didn't get much shelf space and the Wii did in it's heyday. There's no conspiracy here. Retailers want items that sell on the shelves. And almost all US retailers have been indicated that Nintendo did not fulfill their orders and that the item would be very difficult to get. So that kind of kills your argument right there. US companies are ordering more and not getting just like other consumers. But eventually they'll get those orders and they'll be on shelves which is what you are arguing the are so desperately trying to avoid.
@cleveland124
Hahaha exactly.
Only a Nintendo sycophant could make the great mental leap to argue that retailers are actually happy NOT having to stock the NES mini as it saves them shelf/floor space!
It's like a movie theater not wanting to show the new Star Wars movie next month because they want to save screens for other releases. Absolutely absurd thinking on the part of several posters here.
They defend Nintendo as a company as if it is a confused old man who doesn't know what he's doing and every action can be explained away as an accident or 'not his fault'. Nintendo is a smart, calculated company that plans every action it takes months and years in advance. Not someone stumbling around a dark hallway making rash decisions.
@cleveland124 I relayed Nintendo's history with this strategy in an earlier comment. The books "Game Over" and "Console Wars" both describe it well. The history speaks for itself. There's no conspiracy, just carefully calculated planning. (Seems like everything complicated these days is called a conspiracy...)
Retailers only receiving partially filled orders with staggered limited releases, along with customers spreading popularity by word of mouth/frenzy feeding, are part of the old NoA playbook devised all the way back in the '80s. It's not that retailers aren't receiving stock period, obviously that's not the case, which you're stretching a bit. It's a matter of planned limited releases in waves, with only Nintendo's own store receiving any more than about 15 NES Mini's in stock. It's not an equivalent situation to food, transportation, or a one sale and done toy.
@WilliamCalley The reason why retailers would want to move stock of the NES Mini is because they can't utilize it for future sales like they can with normal consoles, including the upcoming S(and)witch. It is what it is, and that's all it is, so they just want to move it as quickly as possible and not have any excess lying around. There's no equivalent here to showing a movie at a movie theater. One movie showing fulfills many people's demands at once, it doesn't just fulfill one person/family/group of friend's demand at a time with every showing. There's no equivalent strategy for staggering waves of limited releases, compared to a movie theater showcase time table. That just has one limited time frame for each movie release, and that's it. (Talk about a mental leap...)
How is this a defense of Nintendo? That's a misinterpretation. I mentioned in an earlier comment that I disagreed with the "Nintendo is incompetent for whatever reason" argument, of which is even in the article to an extent, if you read it. Does that make Damien and Tom "Nintendo Sycophants"? Of course not, they did an analysis which is critical, but still gives Nintendo some benefit of the doubt, which is a fair assessment. I don't think it's the whole story, but it's still an important piece.
@rjejr Dude, that was SO worth the bandwidth! And it never fails. Ever. People ask constantly why companies do that, and to which I respond, "Capitalism, b***h", which is basically what EVERY large company/supplier says.
@PlywoodStick
Tom and Damo aren't the syncophants. It's the users in the comment section who are saying Nintendo would never intentionally limit supplies to increase demand (which they have done before) or those saying there is no way Nintendo could have known this would be a popular item.
Nintendo dropped the ball big time on this.
I don't see why people don't get it: Nintendo produces small amounts of products nowadays because of 2 reasons.
1: If it bombs, they won't drown in tons of unsold stuff.
2: At the same time, small supplies makes the product imediately more popular. And that way they can also ask higher prices for it (though the nes-mini price is very reasonable).
Mark my words, same will happen with Switch. Wich isn't a problem for me, since I'll wait a while anyway.
@Henmii
It sure as hell didn't happen with the Wii-U. You could buy that thing anytime you wanted, even on launch day.
I should know, because I bought two and tried to sell the second one online. I got $20 over the retail price for it haha.
@WilliamCalley I see now, thank you for clarifying. I was the one who misinterpreted you, then! Sorry about that...
@PlywoodStick
Walmart wants to meet all your needs whether it's a one time purchase or a continual purchase. I mean my local Walmart has like 5 aisles of furniture. The NES classic is small. The box is 30% the size of the Wii U. Not hard at all to find space for? You even admitted they are getting continual shipments which means they have to have shelf space anyway. Why would they want empty shelf space?
Word of mouth? Serioysly this is the 21st century. These things were gone long before they were available. Twitter/facebook/ social media already made people well aware of these.
I get there are business reasons for shortages though I'm not familiar with those books. My comments have more focused on retailers liking a shortage. I can't see any reason for that being true. I don't necessarily think a shortage is good for Nintendo though. They aren't a monopoly there are options now that people didn't have in the 80's. How long until people buy a readily available PS4 or just emulate the games and say screw it. People overestimate the shortage for the Wii. Nintendo sold nearly 20 million that first year with the Wii. For comparison the PS2 sold about 10 million. Wii's were flying off the shelf despite a high supply and breaking sales records. The Wii resonated with customers and the Wii U didn't. You can't short your product into a success.
@DragonEleven "I honestly wasn't expecting the NES Classic to be as popular as it is, so I'm not surprised that there's a shortage.
I see it more as a collectible item than anything else... something that's only made available for a limited time, in quantities just large enough to meet demand, so wasn't expecting them to manufacture it in particularly large numbers to begin with."
Same here...not massively bothered about it to be honest, could take it or leave it. If I had one I doubt I'd play any game on there apart from SMB3 for more than a level or so. A mere novelty item. I doubt they would risk running off millions despite people talking about it on social media, that doesn't always equate to people putting money where their mouth is.
It gave the trolls some new material to try and push people's buttons with too, which is nice as well.
Still waiting for a mini SNES...
@WilliamCalley,
Its a recent trend. Lots and lots of Wii u's where left on the shelf, Nintendo won't let that happen again.
@YANDMAN like in a realy good conditon
@Diamondhero You mean an actual NES? if so yes, but then you would need a further 2-300 to get the games.
This console is aimed at casual/non gamers. people whom havent played it since they sold their systems in their youth, but that have fond memories. they dont want to go hunting for systems and games or else they already would of.
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